Which of these TWO ways do you perceive time?
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I just asked my husband and he said “I would ask for clarifications for the exact time.”
Good man
same
Smart man
He must've been through this ALOT
My dad said the exact same thing lol
I laughed wayy to hard at that one Tiktok comment who said “anyone who thinks it’s 10am is a flat earther”
Flat-earthers = Mouth-breathers
Good one
Such a 2pm person thing to say
So flat earth is correct now?
Hugh Jecoque Well we do perceive that the Earth is flat :)
For anyone struggling to understand the other side: - 10am: 'moved forward' as in moved closer to you, like if a person was facing you, you would tell them to move forward = come closer -2pm: 'moved forward' as in moved towards the future, so away from you, like if a person was facing the same way as you, you would tell them to move forward = go away Hope this helped :)
This did help thank you!
Thanks, this did help! I'm still firmly on the ego-moving side though, lol
The meeting was pushed back two hours. That's my preferred phrasing and made the whole video baffling
@ I did the exact opposite. I originally thought 10am as in forward = sooner, but then I realized if you go forward as in clockwise, it would be 2pm.
It's the wording. If someone said the meeting has been moved back you would think that it will happen later rather than sooner. But if you say it has been moved forward then you would infer that the meeting was prioritized more making it 2 hours sooner But without context, the meeting movED forward by 2 hours could mean: The meeting IS movING forward by 2 hours AFTER noon.
This reminded me of the movie The Arrival. It's incredible how language could affect our perception of time.
Hey.. I invite you to my KZhead channel 😊 I hope you like it.
it really is incredible!!
those theories have been proven entirely false
Anyone who says “the noon meeting is moved forward two hours” should be fired for not being able to communicate effectively. Just say what time the meeting is like a decent person.
They should also be fired for causing unnecessary emotional distress in the workplace.
But if you didn’t realise anyone else perceived time differently then you wouldn’t be knowingly confusing people. I’m in #team10am and I really struggle to comprehend how anyone would have thought otherwise
G Wednesday’s NOON meeting has been moved FORWARD by 2 hours. FORWARD meaning it was moved to a time AFTER noon... thats my perception
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You are the one I am searching
I said 2pm, but then I thought about the terms “pushed back” and “moved forward” and I could see it both ways. I’ve experienced these terms used both ways but never really thought about it. So now I’m just severely confused and don’t know what to think...
Same u read my mind
Same
I'm a 2 pm person, but this just tripped me up so hard because I realized that I initially see both phrases as meaning the same thing (later in the day). Now I'm questioning if my brain is broken and my whole perception of time lol
In both scenarios I would say 2PM anyone else?
Same. There is no phrasing I can think of which does not indicate the direction in time, vs direction in space, which would make me think the meeting would be earlier. If you were to say “has been moved back” or “has been moved forward” both directions mean “later” to me. Thinking on it deeper, I intuitively think that both imply a “pushing” motion, pushing the event away from me. Where if you explicitly said “has been pulled back” or “has been pulled forward” I would think “earlier”. Wild.
For example, everyone says “Christmas is coming” not “we’re getting to Christmas”.
That's just a phrase. I say "Christmas is coming" and have the ego-moving perspective that I'm moving through time to reach it
"Relativity"
Winter Is Coming
I've heard really eager people say, "we're getting so close to Christmas!" Before.
People don't say "We're getting to Christmas" because that's not proper English.
This was right on time for me. I had just called my doctor's office and told them that I needed my appointment to be moved back two weeks, and the nurse thought I meant that I wanted it moved forward two weeks. The more we talked about it, the more confused we both became, until I finally told her what date I wanted to reschedule it. I couldn't understand her confusion until I saw this video.
Broke: “is the dress blue/black or gold/white?” Woke: “Is the meeting at 10am or 2pm?”
🙃🙃🙃
Pls help me understand what you mean by broke and woke
Kraig?
I see blue and gold
@@corn-is-everywhere4052 really, i see blue and light brown.
Similar topic, I have consistently had professors who say something like "the assignment is due by midnight June 27th" and the whole class will be confused as to whether that means June 26th 11:59:59PM or June 27th 11:59:59PM because people's perception of whether midnight is the latest point of the day or the earliest point of the day is different. This is generally solved by professors saying the assignment is instead due by 11:59PM of whatever day but the ambiguity of the topic always fascinated me
My brother and I had an argument over this! I said midnight Friday and he thought I meant a minute after 11:59 pm on Friday but I meant a minute before 00:01 am on Friday. He got very annoyed at me.
I’ve had the exact same issue
I always thought it was mean of the schools to do this!! Why make it at midnight when the prof is totally sleeping then. It should be 3 hours before whenever the next class is scheduled.
Ohhh. That’s why they do that!
I mean, logically, midnight June 27 is 12 am. So, the night of June 26. But if you look at it in sleep cycles, the nights is still part of the June 26.
Noon = 12 AM “Moved Forward” Forward = Well, Forwards. Forward = + +2 hours past noon. 2pm.
This is the only correct answer
Tellin Time for dummies 😅😅
@@katherineguevara4430 Huh? Original Meeting: 12 PM Move *Forward* by 2 Hours: 2 PM
@@nadim2911 no noon has been moved forward, not the meeting
@@katherineguevara4430 It's says “noon meeting”. Meaning “12:00 meeting”, had been moved forward by 2 hours.
My initial thought was 2pm, then I thought about it. If it was "pushed back" instead of "moved forward" I would think 2pm... So now I'm just confused and don't know where I stand 😂
Same. I thought 2pm, initially, until I looked at the wording again. Moved forward sounds like it was moved towards an earlier time, so now I keep thinking 10am and can't re-associate myself with the 2pm crowd.
I did the same thing, I feel like it’s because I can’t imagine having a meeting happening earlier than scheduled, they always get pushed later
I feel exactly the same
The clock goes forward clockwise.
thank you I was so sure of my answer before .. now I don't know either 😅
"is the meeting at 10am or 2pm?" Me: Idk I'll be late either way
My man!
I will arrive half an hour late anyway lol
I saw a license plate on a car near me that gave me a chuckle, it said "USULYL8"
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@@codemiesterbeats late is the new "ontime" .lol. im lucky if I get the day correct! Its not Wednesday or Friday..it's -This day,the other day ..in a few days.. a couple of days ago...lol
Personally, I thought. "Oh, it's 2:00 PM." But then I thought "Oh, crap. Moving forward would mean it's sooner, so it's 10:00 AM." So... I guess I'm an ego-moving person who has adapted to time-moving people. Or something like that.
I had the same thought. In professional settings, moved forward has always meant an earlier time in my experience. I wonder if it differs on what country's English you are referring to? I think in the US there is an accepted standard of what this means.
I did something similar. I thought 2pm at first but then used the opposite language, if I heard the meeting was pushed back 2 hours, that makes me think it's further away and thus came to the conclusion that forward means 10am even though I kind of think 2pm instinctually
@@LaurenMilla Nice way of thinking.
I had the same reaction too. Thought it was 2pm and how can it be anything different, but then thought about it longer and figured that it could be both.
Exactly how I thought as well after reading a few comments... now I feel like I’m stuck in between these two categories
Saying “the meeting has been moved 𝐹𝑂𝑅𝑊𝐴𝑅𝐷 two hours” made me think 2pm. But if “the meeting has been moved 𝑈𝑃 two hours” had been said, I would have thought 10am.
Agreed
A late comment, but I just wanted to say that in Chinese language, we have a very clear cut difference with the words 前, meaning forward in this context, and 后, meaning backwards in this context as well. We say 前天, which means the day before yesterday, and 后天, as the day after tomorrow. So my family uses forward to say that time has became earlier and then use backwards to say that time has become later. (The English in this sentence isn't really correct but it took the least amount of work to type out and be understood rather than misunderstood.) When I saw this question, I thought immediately of 10am. However, when watching movies and scrubbing through the timeline (I think I used an animation term for movies, which is not the best fit) I say 前 for scrubbing to the end, basically moving forwards, and 后, for moving backwards- getting back o the start. Not many people may see this comment, but if you do, my main point is: we might have different perceptions of time based on the situation and unit of it.
No offense but you people haven’t even figured out how a fork works in 5000 years.
well that makes sense since here the confusion is because the word "forward" is ambiguous. but 前 and 后 specifically mean before and after. if you said "before" or "after" in the english sentence instead of "forward" everyone would interpret it the same way.
When people say “next Friday” and they mean this coming Friday. It drives me insane because “”next Friday” is not this coming Friday, it is the next coming Friday. But I can see the difference in understanding, it just annoys me.
So funny, I feel the same, but I constantly have to clarify what I mean by saying "... it's next Friday, so, not this Friday, the one after" haha!
I do the same! My fiance gets so frustrated because he says "next Friday" meaning this coming one. His argument is always "well it is technically the next Friday that will happen". I think of it like you would with a week, if it is in "this week" then it is "this Friday" or "this Thursday" or whatever but if it is in the next week then it is next Friday. I'm glad I'm not the only one!!
"This Friday" or Friday. Next Friday = 2 Fridays from now unless the day is Friday when 'next Friday' is uttered. Then it would only be the upcoming Friday.
Okay I'll bite, what does next Friday mean, and what does this coming Friday mean? Let's say it's Monday, 1st of the month now, and you tell me there's a party next Friday, and a meeting this coming Friday. Which days of the month are the meeting and party?
Yeah, same! You should say this Friday for the coming Friday and next Friday for next week.
I really couldn’t understand the illustration, so for anyone else confused: within the phrase “the meeting has been moved forward” The difference is forward meaning “closer to now” vs meaning “further in the day”
Newt Scamander OMG YOU MADE IT MAKE SENCE LIKE YOU MEAN THE MEETING IS CLOSER TO NOW! I THOUGHT IT WAS 2 PM BUT NOW I THINK BOTH THANKS SO MUCH 🥰🥰🥰
English is my second language and for me it waa obviously 2 pm, but when you explained, I now understand there are more implications for the word "forward" than I learned. Very cool!
Yes, it means bring it closer to you, have it earlier, if something is moving forward slowly and you decide to physically push it forward to make it move faster, it means you want it to get to the destination sooner. Same with a meeting, if you want to bring it forward then you want to have it sooner, not later.
1. I like your Name! 2. English is a foreign language for me (I'm German) and I'd translate "The meeting is moving forward" as "Das Treffen wird vor verlegt" which I think obviously means earlier for every German (for me at least, I could be wrong and just think it's obvious when it actually isn't). And as I'd translate the English sentence like this, I'd definitely think, the meeting would be at 10 am. But it could just be kinda a mistranslation as well.
Oooohhhh thank you!!
This is so interesting! I've always thought people should just leave out "forward" or "backward" when they speak of changing a time. "The meeting has been moved to [time]" is much less confusing. I'd be interested to know which group of people tends to be late and which tends to be early for events.
Haven't seen your videos in years. KZhead just stopped suggesting you and a whole bunch of channels I watched regularly. I have to click the bell on so many channels my ears are ringing.
2015: White & Gold Dress vs. Black & Blue Dress 2016: Shiny Legs vs. White Paint on Legs 2018: Yanny vs. Laurel 2020: 10AM vs 2PM The world is always trying to divide us even though we're already doing it ourselves.
am i the only one who sees blue and gold?
The dress thing was 5 years ago? Uugh time moves soo fast
Blue, shiny, laurel, 2PM. Too easy 😏😋
2021 Extinct vs Evolved
All the ones on the right are the right ones. And no, I'm not right-wing conservative.
When I hear that the meeting was "moved forward" two hours, I think that it's going to be at 2pm, but if it were "moved back" two hours, I would also think that it's at 2pm, so I think my time perspective might just be avoidant 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Let’s be honest, who wants to go to a meeting. 😂
Crammers unite!
omg saameeee!! i was like moved forwarded - 2pm... moved back - also 2pm. moved UP - 10am 😂
Moved down to 2pm
I stumbled onto your sight tonight and I'd like to say that I really, really get a kick outta the POV'S you share! Thanks for the effort into the quality! You both have charisma, I love it!
I absolutely love this discussion, not only for its linguistic syntax and the English language but also for its holographic reality in physics. I love the fact that you guys see it as a relationship oriented diffusion and occlusion of gravitational time space assessments in the now! I do believe I initially answer the question of getting to the end of the year with a friend of mine before I saw this. She responded "yeah it's coming fast,"👌 to which I had to counter "well I can't wait till I get to that point in 2020 it'll finally be over.” it occurred to me we might be having a Virginia wolf-ish conversation, but I did think about the holographic universe and 0 point time in relationship this year. And our perception of how we physically communicate with these concepts, occurred to me later on. So I really appreciate you following up with this construct that had been rattling around in the back of my mind for weeks.
this is so shocking to me i have ego moving perspective and I can’t imagine not seeing time this way WOW
Same!! I don't understand
@@Chris-rg6nm exactly
Vegeta is definitely Ego moving perspective.
It's shocking to me you so readily accept this analysis.
@@Chris-rg6nm that is so dumb
"There are actually two ways in which we English speaking humans percieve time" People who speak other languages: ''i dont have such weaknesses''
Hahaha hahaha that was funny
But most people with other languages speak english too, it's common tongue.
@@Black3ight yes but if you speak another language then my guess is you have a lot of different perceptions about a lot of different things. for example: i'm a native spanish speaker (colombian) but have been in a heavily english-speaking atmosphere (international schools) for over a decade. i pretty much think in english at this point. but as soon as i heard his question, i thought to myself "that's so vague, i've seen it be used in both ways", so that completely contradicts this whole "one or the other" theory
I'm a native Spanish speaker and I think it's at 2 pm in English but if translated to Spanish, it's obviously at 10???? anyone else bilingual/multilingual that perceives time different on different languages???
@@olgaperez4705 I think its that the language translated is more direct, and like in spanish maybe it is different language and more obvious. I think your brain sees it the same way, but in spanish when translated the question slightly changes and makes one answer much more obvious.
Always been a fan of you guys but I really like this particular video format of the 2 of you having a discussion while providing information. Keep it up!
“Time is an illusion and so is death” That one guy from avatar the last airbender
:)
I have consistently heard “moved forward” used to mean moved to an earlier time (forward in your day), and “pushed back” to mean pushed to a later time in the day.
This made me understand the other perspective and this actually makes a good amount of sense
Yes! Thats the only way I can think about this !
I am in the 10 AM group, but how does "forward in your day" mean earlier exactly? Also, for the ones that answered 2 PM, does moving forward and pushed back mean the same thing, or does pushed back mean earlier?
@@Kabbinj See it as in before the 12 so 2pm would be after
I mean, in all my life pushed forward means earlier and pushed back means the opposite. I wonder what those people who think pushed forward is the same as pushed back way of thinking...
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams
Just one more till 42
Well done, have a cookie!
I really really wanted them to say that quote when it came up! I felt very let down. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
Umm...no Albert Einstein said that 😒
LOL i love Greg and mitch and their way of teaching science.. Great job!!!
I love this! i like that there’s a discussion and opinion aspect to this video. also. it’s 100% 2pm thank you very much.
I love Greg's trying-to-process face. He's concentrating so hard.
Yep thats cute
When I hear the noon meeting was moved forward by 2 hours, I think 2pm. But if someone says the noon meeting was moved up by 2 hours, I think 10am.
Kayvon12321 I agree. Not done with the video, but I think it’s a matter of semantics
Same, also if you day moved back 2 hours I think 2pm also
I think forward/backward is based on your experience of time, while up/down is based on the way we read and write. If there is/was a culture that read starting from the bottom, they would probably hold the opposite view.
@@Alkoholwioslaidziwki So Arabic, Egyptian, and Ancient Japanese?
I think that because of planners. If the planner is horizontal, I'd say forward is later. If the planner is vertical I'd say up is earlier.
lmao I'm the third one: confused because I've never heard the phrase "moves forward by xxx hrs" only earlier or later ;-;
Sane people use earlier and later. Forward and back is dumb as heck
Oh, wow! I actually love the past in front and future in the back way of thinking. I mean, you can see your past because it already happened. It is something concrete in your mind, so to speak. The future is something you cannot see, like what would happen with something that is in your back. You haven't lived it yet, you don't know what it looks like. It is a very fascinating way of thinking. Thank you for this!
With the "meeting" example it's just down to your use of the word "forward", wether you read it as meaning continuing on from the current time. Or if you read it to mean coming sooner than the current time, as the word can be used for both. I see both, I first read it as meaning 2pm, but then after rereading it in a different context I read it as 10am. But both are possible.
I had the same thoughts about that. I'm not a native speaker, so I was wondering which of these two meanings the 'forward' has in the context of time. If I'm interpreting it the way I would in my mother tongue I would say 10 am but the way I interpretate English I would say 2 pm and than I've been totally lost 😄
Yes! Thank you!
This comment saved me, I was freaking out for a hot minute (I'm not a native speaker of English). I got it when the sentence "I'm looking forward to meet you" popped into my mind. That helped me making sense of this other interpretation of the word "forward" as in _sooner_ instead of later (which, still, is the one that makes most sense to me).
I had this exact dilemma back in high school and college but instead of the word forward it was back and the teacher would be like we are moving this due date back. And I'm thinking back which way, further into the future or a sooner date.
:0 I watch ur vids!
Me: "Wednesday's noon meeting has been moved forward by 2 hours. What time is the meeting now?" My Dad: "4 pm" Me: -_-
Wow
You never mentioned the real time of the meeting. So yeah, your dads got a point.
Pratik Cankles you are even worse than her dad because you had time to think about that stupid answer.
My step dad has his own time like this
KJG Noon is 12
I love how you explain things.
This just blew my mind 😂 I had to pause a few times and mentally process this video! Me and my wife about to have a good convo today 😂
What’s shocking to me was that when you very first said the question, my immediate thought was “oh it at 2pm” but when I stopped and thought about it for a second I reversed my perspective within just a few seconds and now confidently feel that it’s at 10 am. Very odd.
There’s no right or wrong answer.... until you’ve missed the meeting entirely 🙃😂
😁😁😁
this is so interesting!!! I'd never thought about this before! I'd never even thought to think about this! mind = blown (I only know English) I think of days and holidays and times as set things. When event times change, they move either closer or further from Sunday/Monday Day/Night January/December, not me personally. And because the things are set in stone in their respective blocks and zones, I move through them. It's really interesting to now know that other people imagine things as being set up around them and coming closer. Therefore moving "forward" is relative to them, ie it's getting closer. I saw another comment on "what if it said the meeting had been moved back two hours?" and I would then assume it was at 10. Others said it then must be at 2, because it was moved further away from them. Thank you AsapScience! This is so astronomically amazing and eye opening.
This video is about to recieve a ton of views
"Do you now think that it's at 2pm or at 10am?" I think I'm definitely gonna miss that meeting....
Mr incredible: WEDNESDAY IS WEDNESDAY!!!
The worst day of the week
@@pushbaner5219 LOL, I kind of hate Wednesday too. Not sure why so much. It's just too "fat" and right in the middle. I like Thursday because I feel we crossed a hurdle somehow.
It's interesting that with the "holidays coming to you" or "getting to the holidays" my brain completely switches camps
as SOON as you mentioned seeing it as something you're dreading, I immediately was able to see the 10 AM crowd's perspective. This video is blowing my mind and I still have 2 minutes left to watch 😲
Plot twist: whoever set that meeting didn't want to come
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Yanny is having a meeting at 10am, and she's wearing white-gold dress.
All of those are wronggggg 😂
You had me until you said white and gold, smh 😭
Haha! Good one! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2pm and I'll agree xD
Am I the only one that hears the yanny/laurel thing as "yarry"?
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." -- Ford Prefect
I instinctually thought 2pm but after you pointed it out I realized that if the meeting were moved forward it would be 10:00. If the meeting were pushed back, then it would be 2:00. I have the most boring type of synesthesia but it's actually relevant for this. I blend time and space perception, which is what I though everyone did until I heard about time-space synesthesia and realized that not everyone does that. For me, time is like a helix/coil that I'm standing on, with the future being up, forward, and to the right, and the past is down, forward, and to the left. When I'm thinking of time relative to myself, I see it based on wherever I am on the coil. When I'm thinking of time relative to itself (like thinking of a date on the year, but not how far away it is from me), I'm standing in the spring, around April, probably because that's when my birthday is. So from that standpoint, I'm in the spring, summer is to my right, winter is to my left, and autumn is below and across from me. But right now it's November, so winter is to my right, summer is to my left, and spring is up and across from me. Seasons also have colors but I think that's just kind of cultural, like spring is green, winter is ice blue, fall is dark orange and summer is yellow. But I think that's just the colors most people associate wih the seasons. Apparently my mom thinks of time as an imaginary calendar, where if you say "April", she imagines the month of April on a calendar.
I'm not a native English speaker, so it took me quite a while to understand the problem here. In my language, when you talk about moving an event, the word you use to describe it specifies whether the event will occur later or earlier. That doesn't leave much space for subjectivity, so when you talked about "forward" I automatically thought "forward is +, so +2 hours". Because time is less subjective in my language, I thought about "forward" as either + or - time, instead of as moving in correlation to something else (which is a more subjective type of progression). I hope that makes sense🤔 Edit: now that I think about it, you'll actually need to give *more* information about the situation in Hebrew to make time subjective, which is pretty weird. Giving more info will let you use more subjective words that give the same perspective as "forward".
Yeah I kind of had the same issue. In French we often says pushing the event by x hours. So instead of flowing time or ego-perception it is more like event perception
English isn't overly subjective, It's just that a lot of native English speakers do not know the meaning of most of the words they speak. So you get videos like this. But I love asap science but this video could have been solved with a dictionary.
Ours specifies earlier or later as well... Forward before Backward after (aft=back) I regard the opposite interpretation as a widespread misunderstanding of our language.
I don't get why people don't understand this is about being objective and subjective. The timeline will exist without humans and will always be left is back, right is forward on this linear line that will not change. Just because you add an object into the timeline, doesn't mean that linear line changes direction, it's still moving forward. It's literally how an object moves based on the timeline, which the question is about time so you need to base it off of the timeline rules aka is linear and moves in one direction, which is forward. If you are changing the date of an event, the timeline would say hey, if you want to move forward, turn right, if you want to move backwards, turn left. If you chose left, the timeline would say that's the backwards direction, don't give the event(meeting) any faces so it's not facing anywhere. It's only because people are moving their body parts that would feel like it's forward but did you go forward in time? No, you went back in time but you are confused because of the direction you were facing. It's like you know you want to go the past, but you're saying youre running forward towards the past, but your direction doesn't speak the truth of the reality, which is you went backwards on the timeline. That's how the timeline would see it. Basically following the rules of the globe North East South West, those are the objective directions. It's like running on a treadmill facing the back of the plane, you feel like you're running forward, which you are, in reference to your body and not the globe, but you're not actually going forward. The plane is going forward and you are running backward in correlation to where you are actually moving. A - B. Just because you face a certain way, doesn't mean that'll be the direction you went. That's how you be objective, removing the person from the equation.
@@steveh3571 origin from old english is to move forward into the future.
“Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” ― Marcus Aurelius
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That logic could be used to defend a lot of strange arguments, conspiracy theories, religion, and superstition. Risky way of thinking.
And this way of thinking is causing a mess in the world right now.
@@__-rb9st. Observations are relative, depending on your point of view.
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I see how “move Forward” can be perceived as the meeting moving ahead in time Or moving earlier in the day. I think of “forward in time” and any time after the one you’re speaking about.
Yep :p
Interesting. I think earlier (10am) because moving it forward means moving closer to the front, which is the beginning of the day.
The specific language of the statement is key here: "moved up" could mean moved ahead in time (2pm) or moved ahead on the schedule (10am). To me it's just ambiguous phrasing, not "different perceptions of time".
Thank you for this comment! I've just been sitting here dumbfounded as to how it could be seen the other way. Thank you for having the smarts that I don't haha
@@Tatsebmaki Forward is defined as the direction that one is facing of travelling; towards the front. It would make more sense for time to go forward in a clockwise manner since in our concept of time, time is forward-facing clockwise; it is odd to assume that time will turn anticlockwise to forward-face you instead.
My English textbook defined “move forward” as “move to an earlier time.” I guess the writers had time-moving perspectives. 🤷🏻♀️
I personally think its White & Gold
No
its definitely yanny
Two of my favorite channels in the same spot. I love it
You all are wrong ....it is 5 am
No blue and black
Shout out to all the people asking "what time was the meeting?"
TY!!! I didn't understand at ALL what that even meant.😅
Never
Aka all the people that failed algebra.
@@TheChickenRiceBowl or those that don't like vague language
@Patrick Hudson lol
if it was “brought forward” 2 hours, i’d say 10am, and “pushed back” 2 hours, i’d say 2pm
Yes!! Exactly!! I don’t think people in my circle (NE Scotland) would say ‘moved’ forward or back. We’d say ‘brought forward’ or ‘pushed back’, which is unambiguous here. When he said ‘moved forward’ I heard ‘brought forward’ so obviously thought 10am.
It's not brought forward, it's "moved forward" so it was at 12 noon and it has been MOVED FORWARD so it's at 2 pm now. And simply, pushed back means it has been pushed in the past so it's at 10 am now
thanks@@HemantSharma-xp4ey , but we did listen to the original video and heard the words the men spoke. What we're saying is that in our cultures no one would use the phrase "moved forward" because it can be interpreted two ways. And anyone I speak to about meeting times in my culture would understand "pushed back" to mean "pushed away from us" therefore making it later in the day: so I don't think it's as simple as you suppose.
WAIT at first I was a 2pm person but then after reading this I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
If someone told you to change your clocks by saying "move/turn your clock forward 1 hour" you'd be setting it to a later time. 1am --> 2am. "Spring *forward*, fall back"
I chose 2pm, yet I see the holidays as coming towards us.
I agree. Completely. I still can't see how it could be 10AM, but I am starting to understand why it's odd. Consider this breakdown. Wednesday's noon meeting has been moved forward by two hours. Wednesday's is a possessive noun, it is showing ownership of noon. Noon is a noun. Following traditional English sentence structure nouns are usually either the subject: the one doing the verb, or an object, something the doing is done to. (you might drive a car or give to a friend, car and friend are objects.) Meeting is also a noun, and so should follow this same rule. Has been moved forward by two hours can probably pretty safely be taken together as predicate: but we can break it down. "has been" is used here to form the present perfect voice, which denotes sometime is or was ongoing. In this context it implies the movement did not happen all at one, but over a period of time. The past tense "moved" tells us the movement has sinse stopped. In this case, forward is an adverb, it modifies the movement. By is also ad adverb which modifies forward. Two is an adjective which modifies hours. Hours is a noun, and therfore either a subject or an object, but the use of the word by tells us hours is an object. So, theoretically you should be able to organize this sentence differently to make what is supposed to be subject and what is meant to be object more clear. Let's try The meeting (subject), has been moved forward by two hours from Wednesday's noon. Wednesday's noon(subject) has been moved forward by two hours realitive to the meeting. In case hours being an object has unclear, let's try to make it the subject. Two hours has been moved forward for Wednesday's noon meeting. I agree, that last one is absolute nonsense, but I couldn't think of a better way to phrase it. I originally thought of noon as an adjective in this context, describing the meeting. Noon isn't an adjective, but it still makes sense to use it as one. If noon is an adjective then the meeting is clearly the subject, and the final time is 2PM as the meeting moved in time. I hope this explains why 2PM for anyone who doesn't see it. I really would love a better explanation the other way.
I say it’s to pm but I’m looking forward to Christmas
@Joshua Barbanel Yeah, this was pointed out to me irl a bit ago. And I now see why people see 10am. But that's not the explanation given in the video. I've learned that the problem here is forward. When you are looking forward in time you mean the future, and when looking back you mean the past. Yet, when a meeting is moved back it means it will be further in the future. In english, we don't usually use forward to denote a meeting moving, so we don't have a collective agreement about what that means. We move meetings back, up, or to a specific time. I'm actually pretty sure up and back are both meant to refer more to a meeting moving through a planner or intenerary, as opposed to literally moving in time, but of course if it moves in the schedule in moves in real life. And I see how saying moving forward in a schedule should mean earlier. However, everything else in which forward is associated with time refers to th future. Which seems to be where the real confusion is coming from.
It's because 2pm is actually more objective than 10am. Timeline being static but also the reference point, not affected by where a human is. So forward will always be the same direction >>>. Being subjective is wrong when it comes to things like timelines. Being objective in life is the right way to live life. No bias, just reality.
i think he’s right that it has something to do with how we perceive the said event , if it’s something we are going to do or something that is going to “happen” to us
imagine people showing up at the meeting at 10am. the people who thought the meeting was at 2pm will be sooooooooooooooooooo confused
Wrong the people at 10:00 would be way to early
@@owenlewthwaite5644 It depends on how they mean moved ahead 2 hours. Ahead could mean 2 hours earlier or 2 hours later. Usually I would think it would be 2 hours later but I know that it can mean 2 hours earlier. If it was moved 2 hours ahead of schedule then it would be 2 hours earlier and if it was moved 2 hours behind schedule it would be 2 hours later. :/
@@DarkPillWarrior but they did not use the word "ahead" they said "forward" and in the context of time you would have to add 2hrs
Me showing up at noon because I wasn’t cc’d
It might help to show an action happening to the time to disambiguate. "Pushed back" would mean that the meeting is further away, right? "Pulled Forward", while a bit clunky, shows that it is now closer, no? "Move" is a terrible word that can be used anywhere. I move my fingers to type, They move their mouth to speak. I move upwards and then back down again. "Move" has no restrictions on what that motion is about. So to move a meeting, it can go either way.
Personally, I’m team 2pm, but if the senario were to be stated as “moved up 2 hours” it would definitely be at 10am.
People say moved up? Like ever?
@@George-ps5 Yes. Though it's usually phrased differently, as in "Can we move this meeting up to 10 AM?" rather than "Can we move the meeting up two hours?"
My exact thoughts! Or even "push the meeting up" makes me think of it being earlier, whereas the "move the meeting forward" made me think later. Wild!
No moved down
But, it says Wednesday noon.
If it was phrased as “the meeting has moved UP two hours”, I would think it was earlier. But saying it “moved FORWARD”, I think of it as moved forward in time and is therefore later.
Yeah, exactly! When I say the meeting is moved “back” I would say that it was moved later in time. E.g, we didn’t have the meeting today; so we moved it back to tomorrow. Very helpful comment.
Colin Graham for me that means it was once tomorrow
If someone told me a meeting had been moved UP, I'd need them to clarify. You can't move up through the time dimension. You can only move forwards or backwards through time as the way we percieve time only accounts for one dimension. Saying the meeting has moved up is like saying it's been moved to an alternate timeline in my mind.
@@SamuraiPipotchi it's like in a classroom. u move up to the front or move back. it's usually understood. nobody thinks u're actually movin to a higher plane
To move something forward means it happens at an earlier point. Hence 10am is the only correct answer - not a perception or opinion - it’s fact. I’m quite baffled that this isn’t common knowledge tbh
I thought “If the meeting gets pushed back 2 hours, then it would be 2PM.”....so then if it’s moved forward, then it would be 10AM.
How? Moving clockwise is forward and moving anti clockwise is backwards.
Actually, for the first time I was reading it, I thought it's gonna be 2am 😅
@@marksilla8276 I thought this, too. But see other argument: if an even it's pushed forward, it means it's earlier in the day. Pushing back is means further away or later. I understand it , but it's not as natural me because I'm visual. Forward to me means later because that's how clocks work. Backwards to me means sooner.
Move forward from the time it was supposed to have originally been which is 2pm.
I see it as, we count up right? Otherwise forward. So let's say a meeting today is at 3 pm. 2 hours forward is 3 + 2 which = 5 (pm). 2 hours backwards would be 3 - 2 which = 1(pm).
'Moved forward' could either mean that the event has been moved forwards in time (the way I interpreted it) or that it’s been moved forwards to the front of the que before others. It's nothing to do with your entire perception of time, it's just vaguely worded.
Thank you
only the cultured understand
When I think about this question in English I think it’s 10am, when I think about this question in Chinese it’s 2pm ...
How is it 10, it’s going forward not backword
When I think about it in English, it's like "totally 2pm, duh", but when I translate it to Spanish I'm like "wait, what, no, it's 10am". So like.. I feel you
When I think about it in English I think it’s 2 pm, when I think about it in korean it’s 10am...
Yeah in dutch i feel like 10am but in english 2pm
@@juicearth999 it is ten because it is going forward.
The meeting’s at 10am for me. To me moving something “forward” means it’s happening sooner, it’s been brought closer to me. For me to think that the meeting is at 2pm, it would have been “delayed” two hours. I’m also one of the people that thinks the holidays are “coming”.
I'm a 2pm person, but I 100% agree on your argument. It is also a thing on what your parents used and your friends use. Are you an english speaking person? Because in germany we rather use the equivalent to "earlier" (and "later") insted of "forward". "Forward" might be further in the future or earlier in time. Exactly what they explain, you are moving forward to reach year 2021, so moving a meeting "forward" could mean further away (= 2pm people)
thank you! I am not native to English and had a hard time to understand the whole concept! thx
Dude, I could not comprehend how someone could think it is 10AM. Thank you for breaking it down.
Fascinating. Thank you for explaining your thoughts! ♡ I'm a 2pm person and have such a hard time understanding using forward to mean earlier, although you explained it so simply. I think I'd compare my thinking to using the forward button while watching a movie. Pressing that button moves us ahead, that is, to a later time or scene. I literally picture a movable me on an unchangeable time line. From what I understand, you picture it coming forward - that is, toward you? So you are still and things in time come forward that way?
I am nit a native English speaker, and I thought the term '' move forward '' means the meeting will be held earlier so I am a 10am person, cause now I am waiting for my '' entry to university''(an event) to come, instead of me going to the university
Take the antithesis. Does anyone think that a meeting “moved back” makes the meeting at 10am?
Obviously yes
Nope
@@MaddyMayMay yes
Yes, obviously!
Of course not, though I’d usually say “pushed back” because that way the meaning is more clear (think physically pushing the meeting farther from you in time).
When I finally realized how the 10am worked I had an "Oh my God" moment.
How? Please explain I'm really interested and I'm confused
I was all for 2pm then listened to the sentence again and thought but if something is pushed back it's delayed...so the meeting brought (or moved) forward it would be 10am 🤯🤯
@@ramennoodles2589 Imagine you're standing on a train track, and the place you're standing at is 9am. You have a meeting at 12 am, so imagine you see a train a little far away from you. When someone says the meeting is moved forward by 2 hrs, you think the meeting is moved CLOSER to where you are now, which would make the meeting at 10am. If you still don't get it, watch the job interview part again!
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@@annabelledsouza01 Thank you, I finally understand it now
There’s a fascinating study on this and related questions like this called “The Experiential Basis of Meaning”. Anyone interested in fictive motion, or even skeptical that it may just be a linguistic problem should give it a read!
You can't even find this journal by searching its title exactly, and just because someone did a study on it doesn't mean it can't be a mostly linguistic trick. People did scientific journals about cigarettes being good for you. Doesn't mean anything.
Actually, i searched it and it popped up first result. Its from the proceedings of the annual meeting of the cognitive science society
Eric Alvarez I didn’t say it was a linguistic trick. I said that if you think it may be a linguistic trick you should read it, because it claims otherwise.
Whoever is reading this I hope you have a great rest of your day and keep growing as a person!! :)
"It reminds me of Yanny/Laurel." * clip plays * Me: wait, that was just Laurel Also Me: *oh yea...*
LOL exact same thing happened to me mine was yanny
yup! when they played the clip i only heard Laurel
I heard both but I heard Yanny when I first took that test
I heard yanny
I herd yaorle
You know in Hindi yesterday is "Kal" and tomorrow is also "Kal"
You know that in Wadiya positive is “aladeen” and negative is also “aladeen”
@@clooshar How old are you? Stop with your stone age movie references already.
Mr. Know it all i will be thirty in August, thanks for asking '
@@mr.knowitall5019 no he was fully in the right to reference that movie lol
@@monamiller536 I didn't say that he wasn't right. I meant that i am an old person racist because using that old content is retarded(Dictator). Go watch some Fox news Boomer.
I perceive Time in the only correct way: Spirographs.
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No, it's like a KZhead timeline bar, you just decide when to be.
my brain is mush
My immediate response was, “I’d ask for clarification about the time because this isn’t clear.”
A realist
Me too. I work in a job where everyone is in different time zones, so I'm used to asking for clarification.
This is correct.
this is the most correct answer
This is true. I read the question and immediately knew my reaction would be to check the calendar or to ask: "So 2pm?"
I have the time-moving perspective. I think of it like this: When the clocks go forward, you lose an hour of time. When the clocks go back, you gain an hour. So if the 12pm meeting has been moved forward two hours, then I'm losing two hours, i.e. the meeting is two hours earlier now, so at 10am.
But when the clock goes forward it goes up and not down (2 to 3 AM)
@@pupa8136 yes the number goes up which means that you lost 1 hour of that day
You were the only one that could make me understand how anyone saw it as 10am lol thanks... I had a headache trying ti figure it out
But when the clock goes forward (clockwise of course) by 2 hours from 12 pm, the hands turn to 2 pm, and by your logic you still lose 2 hours because the clock went forward even when it is 2 pm.
My understanding is that forward is the opposite of back. We say things like "back in time", "back in the old days", or "remember way back when...?" to signify the past or something that happened earlier beforehand. So forward would clearly mean the opposite like "I look forward to meeting you in the future", "Ok let's just drop this & move forward", "Going forward, I expect everyone to apply these new rules", "From 1776 and forward, the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth." (So fun fact while we're here, statistics show America has been at war 93% of the time - that's 222 Out of 239 Years!). Using context from everyday language is how I arrive at 2 pm. Final answer!
2pm. For me, it just seems logical to assume that by saying the meeting was “moved forward”, the implication is that the meeting was moved toward the future as we (English speakers) see time moving in one direction: from past to future. Therefore, saying the meeting was moved forward means that the meeting was moved forward in time. If the saying was rather “the meeting was moved forward towards you”, the implied time would objectively be 10am.
Finally a comment that helps me understand the 10am side of things.
...but if a meeting was pushed back 2 hours, you'd say that it is at 2 PM, and by using the logic that forward is the opposite of backward, the meeting time must go the opposite way in time as if it is being pushed back, so you can reason that it is at 10.
@@alexanderb4818 front is the opposite of back, no one says the meeting was moved "backwards." They also said moved and not pushed . Little things like this make all the difference.
Here’s my problem: when I hear “wednesdays noon meeting has been pushed forward two hours”, I think 2 pm. But when I hear “wednesdays meeting has been pushed BACK two hours” I also think it’s at 2 pm. I think the reason why I think this way, is because both ways of phrasing this kind of thing are used, but in almost every context most meetings are delayed rather than expedited. Since both perspectives are relative neither is correct, so rather than have to rely on context cues, people should use the words after/before because then it fixes the perspective to be in terms of the event (ie ego moving perspective). For example, no one will confuse the phrase “wednesdays noon meeting is taking place 2 hours after its previously scheduled time”.
Yeah who the hell would want to make a meeting SOONER and only 2 hours sooner?? Huh.
That actually makes a lot more sense
I actually think is 2 Pm, but realizing these two interpretations is mind blowing to me.
I feel frustrated when I say "turn back a page" and they turn to the next page, not the previous
How do people turn to the next page when you say turn back 😅 I mean I get it but it’s interesting how that works damn English language 😂
Bruh
How even...?
@@mauve9266 "Back means towards the end/back side of the book" is the common answer. Of course it doesn't help
Same things happens with scrolling up vs. down on a computer screen...”no, the other down”...
The ambivalence lies in the term "forward" This is what throws people off
I actually think the word "push" is what messes people up. Pushing something almost always means _away_ . So to push it forwards should mean to have the meeting later, seeing as how pushing it forwards would mean _away_ from the current time it is set to. Rather than arguing about either the person or time as being the thing we base relativity off of, it should be the meeting.
I think you mean "ambiguous" ambivalent means something very different
I would interpret "moved forward 2 hours" and "moved back 2 hours" to both mean the meeting is at 2pm. If the meeting is at 10am, I would say it's moved up 2 hours
Right ... So forward and back are now both the same direction ?!
I think I agree with this. When I imagine "up" I think of a rising or ascension whereas "forward" is moving towards the future. I'd imagine the highest ascension being morning and the opposite of this to be night so moving up is ascending closer to morning.
same! Don't know why forward and back somehow are the same, but they are to me in this context
yes yes and yes 100% agree
Same “forward” and “back” mean 2pm. But if someone said “moved ahead 2 hrs” I would now think 10am. This is crazy and I wonder if it’s different for the time-movers.
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I say 2PM because the "meeting" was moved "forward when the hands on a clock or arrow of time moves forward it goes to the future, I am not part of the question. I move through time, sort of, though someone else will arrive.
I say 10 am because the meeting was moved forward, forward towards me
2pm seems obvious to me but I can actually see the reason for 10 am
I'm with M3hDuy, I see it as 10am because it's like it's being moved up on your schedule. It's wild for me to think about it being 2pm (but I get your explanation)
@@j43fura71 I was so confused on how it could possibly be 10 am but this comment helped a lot. I thought forward meant the opposite of backwards
Same bruh!!
im on the ego moving perspective, but it may be because the word for "forward" in my mother language spanish is "adelantar/avanzar" which all have to do with going ahead, further. and we think of the future as something that is in front of us. so I've always associated "forward" with the future.
Same here ! I'm French and "forward" would be translated as "avancer", in this case. Therefore, I don't understand how "forward" can mean going backwards. Mind blowing topic !
Yep me too! I'm Dutch, same thing
No? Si a mí me dicen que se ha adelantado, sin duda sería dos horas antes, a las 10am!
I'm Italian and I asked all my family about this and they all turned out to have the ego moving perspective, but also the words avanti, antes and avant used to mean or still mean before... so I guess there are other linguistic factors that influence our perspective of time.
I'm so glad that science channels on youtube are finally talking about linguistics more and more because it IS science.
You can literally see greg is still trying to understand
I have never heard a teacher say "I'm moving the due date forward to give you one more day" forward definitely means earlier in time from my experience
If you get one more day wouldn't forward be later not earlier?
@@Mel-qr5ob exactly what they mean mel
What no. I feel like I've definitely heard a teacher say that. Forward would be giving an extra day to me. This is so interesting
Yet, "back in time" doesn't mean in the future.
@@dontspikemydrink9382 they said earlier tho
Now ask what people mean when they say, “the meeting has moved to next Saturday.”
Lol yeah this is a good one too
They mean the meeting is canceled... or at least thats what I learned from dnd
I heard an English professor on my local radio make a good point about next vs this... Have you ever heard somebody saying "this Saturday" without the word "coming?" The confusion is almost always eliminated when you consider that "this coming Saturday" would be how most people would refer to the immediate Saturday and "Next Saturday" is how most people would refer to the one after the immediate one.
It's the same with "next week" but accompanied by specific day just like "next Saturday" in your question. Sometimes people confused it with "this week" with accompanied specific day. For example: This Saturday.
No just say the meeting has been moved to Saturday because next means future or forwards
Me as I'm watching: "2pm...what a silly question...oh!" Then I asked my husband and he looked at me like I had lost my mind but answered, and said "ten." 🤯
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Please tell me we are all showing up at that meeting for 2pm?!
I don't know if I will show up at all seems kinda shady at this point
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Definitely
Let's just meet at noon
@@saltywolf7328 Best answer. lol - If you can't give me the exact time, I'm not going. Perfect.
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Wow, this video has left me questioning life. Amazing animation, and amazing demonstrations.
I personally have ego perspective but in my mother tongue is “more direct” in the videos own words (Finnish) so I automatically assume it is “forward” in time because forward is forward (“eteenpäin”)
Yeah! Great point! I wonder how this concept changes for multilingual speakers! I imagine it just makes things that much more confusing. 😱
In spanish is actually the complete opposite. When you say "moved forward" it translates to "se adelantó" which means it will start earlier.
In French I have the same feeling than @@camiloarcila7833. "moved forward" would translate to "a été avancé" which feel like 10am, but rereading it in English feels more like it's now at 2pm. Basically, I'm confused.
In Swedish the word for "future" translates to "framtid" which is literally "forward-time".
@@NoseborN yeah in German it's the same "vor verlegt" means it at 10 AM. But in English it feels like 2 pm for me as well.
In australia, I feel we more often say the meeting has been “brought forward” rather than moved. I think this makes is less ambiguous. We “push them back” if delaying them. So I wonder if this isn’t just what English thing, but a North American English thing.
You can say postponed much less ambiguo4
I feel like this could be a language thing.. bc I find it like an oxymoron. Brought means bring as in come closer.. and then forward means away as in farther.. so “brought forward” is kinda like “jumbo shrimp” ..only harder to understand
I would never think to say to move an appointment forward, I would say "push it back" but even that could go both ways, I suppose. Especially when I'm dealing with attendees in different time zones.
I don't know if people would say it so ambiguously if it was a real world scenario. I think the question is phrased in an ambiguously way so that you can figure out how you perceive time.
Exactly. Usually it’s said as being “brought forward”. I think that’s at least in commonwealth countries.
I've noticed a similar issue with temperature. Does "turning up the AC" mean making the room warmer or colder?
AC is the dead giveaway that it should be colder. Normally it's called a thermostat.
AC - or air conditioning - functions to make the environment whatever you want, either heating or cooling as desired, your analagy makes no sense.
colder obviously. AC makes cold, the more you turn it up, the colder it gets. I don't think its really the same because its unlikely that anyone would be confused on that.
@@mattlane4761 I think you have some misconceptions; with air conditioning you can turn the desired target temperature "up" or "down". In winter for example, I have the AC on in the car to *raise* the temperature to 21 celcius; AC also does more than just cool AND heat, it "conditions" hence the C - eg by dehumidifying.
It make it warmer because you’d be turning the temperature up ie hotter
I can see how moving an appt forward could cause confusion but when we say "We're gonna have to push this meeting back" we all mean later...right?
Yes! And when we say “we are gonna move the meeting up” we mean earlier right??
Damn I hadn't thought about that. I was thinking about how I would assume future=forward and back=to the past. Saying back to the past makes sense to me because when you go back, you have been there already. Therefore future is forward and in front of you.
I initially thought 2:00 PM but by the logic presented I completely agree with that reasoning of it being at 10:00 AM and now can’t see an argument for it being at 2:00 PM
But if you were to push the meeting farward?
@@zackhadley9433 same
why would anyone say "moved forward" when they mean "pushed back"?
Because some people think 'pushed back' means pushed back in time to an earlier point - 10am. But others would read that as being delayed - 2pm
woahhh i thought 2pm but reading this made me trip into 10am for a sec tf
Same problem as "moving forward"
@@andrewpackham8236 who would actually think of it as pushing it (the event) back towards yourself. You definitely don't push back something towards you. pushed back definitely means away from you, so either even further in the future or even further in the past.
@@OzoneTheLynx thats the thing, some people are thinking of the event within time and others are thinking of events in time relative to themselves(ego). If I "push back" an event it's further away from me in time so it is delayed (ego) OR If I "push back" an event it is moving 'backwards' in time so it is now earlier. Ego centric is like comparing the distance in time between yourself and an event (how far away is this event from me right now?) Whereas the opposite is seeing time on a continuum and the present, which you are in, happens to be on there (when is this event relative to other events?)
My life is a lie now. I can't imagine other people see time differently..wow
Time moving is like saying "the event is getting closer" whereas the ego moving is like saying "I'm getting closer to the event.
which they show in the video by using the vacation example ;-)
so it's basically like something you dislike/dread is getting closer or with something you're looking forward to is you getting closer to it, at least to me. (sorry ik they already said something like this in in the video)
Meanwhile, in Australia, Moved Forward: 10am Pushed Back*: 2pm *some say Pushed Forward, but this is less common. Still, the pushed denotes 'later' here.
Yes!! We would say ‘brought forward’ in Scotland but otherwise I agree entirely.
The Australian education, once again, proving its superiority over the US education system.
I'm Australian and I completely disagree, I don't think our whole country thinks the same way. I said 2pm for example
Meetings generally get delayed. This is human bias, that's it.
I agree. I’ve seldom had a meeting (if ever) actually get rescheduled sooner than first scheduled
@@KevAlberta Seldom doesn't mean it is not possible
Unfortunately, that "generally" is also a bias
吴安咏Robbert EC6N1 that’s why I said seldom bozo, because it means there is still a chance it can happen
Not at all necessary!