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Your Brain is absolutely brilliant Jonathan. Wish mine could do half of what yours does!
In the Charter of the UN, Chapter VII, Article 51, the right to self-defence is recorded. No one should be able to deny Ukraine that right under any circumstance. It is not a conditional right.
My brain does the same, punk and the young ones to blame for me.
Jonathan, you are doing a great job EVERY single day to keep us informed. Thank you so much.
Lol.... well there's the quote of the week..... "my brain is a bastard!" 😊
😂 I can relate 🧠
Hi Jonathan, I recently had a discussion with someone who was heavily against claimed Ukraine videos of Ukrainians getting picked up from their homes and “forced” to join the army. I explained that this is not different how it worked in The Netherlands during war time and during the Cold War period and even behond. If you got drafted and didn’t show up, the MPs payed you a visit. Hence, in my opinion, Ukrainians should not get a refugee status based on escape the draft. I realize it is easy for me to say, way back from the Ukrainian frontline and whiteout a family to take care of. Cheers, Rick
The same situation happened in the US when we had the draft. If you didn't report, MPs showed up at your door.
I agree that getting drafted places an onus on a citizen to report for military duty.
Go ATP! 🙏🇺🇦👏👍
Hello and have a great day Jonathan and ATP team.
Hi Ansel and happy Friday 🤗
Afternoon JP Greetings troops 👍🖐
Sad to say I took a poll From both the Republicans and Democrats asking what issues motivated me to vote Neither mentioned Ukraine. Made me sad and disappointed. Everything seems local in this election on November 5th. Does not bode well for Ukraine.
Too many unaware people. Over seas means out of mind unless it is Israel.
@@williammorris584 That is why I call them unaware.
Great stuff Ben ❤. Go for it JP 🧡 Oh, and I constantly call my besties kids the names of my children, and get daggers from them. You are not alone! 🧡
Up to the minute reports, always good. No B.S.!!❤
Thank you, Jonathan for keeping us all informed👍👍👍
Hello all again! 👋👍👍👍
Hi again 🤗
@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi Lynn, hope you're well🤗💐
Thank you Jonathan ❤ Love to all ❤ 🫂 Ben's idea is fantastic! It would be great for posting to xitter and Telegram too, to increase your reach. It could even be translated to other languages.
The biggest problem with the Claude 3.0 Opus approach is that it would gut your rants, which are fun to listen to and have nuggets all their own.
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Hi Jonathan, I ❤ Ben’s idea, kudos! My live is basically work, watch your videos, watch videos about American and Dutch politics, watch cat videos and get some sleep. For me the summaries will never replace your video’s, so it would not result in reduced view time, but it does sounds like a very sweet service/feature (on your discord channel) to catch up when you had have a crazy day/week. Cheers, Rick
Build F16 decoys! Keep up your regimented treadmill workouts!!
I was a 52c in the us army starting in 1995. A main part of my job was maintaing the cooling systems on the targeting computers on M-270s and filling CO2 bottles for ATACMS to keep their on board computers cool in flight. Its intersting seeing them used.
Neil, Interesting...comment more often please
Hey thanks for this. I know that not all the HIMARS can fire the ATACMS and they can only hold 2 at a time. I would love it if you could post some detailed information because this is such a crucial weapon system for Ukraine. Thanks so much........Kevin from Parrish FL. Your experience is really valued by this community.
Very good news coming out of the 🇬🇧today- great to see!!
In Italy's constitution THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT ALL MEN ARE OBLIGED TO DEFENSE THE BORDERS OR THREAT OF SOVEREIGNTY.AND NOT in martial law BUT IN THE ITALIAN CONSTITUTION ART 52/54
The shortened AI tech piece sounds interesting. I try to watch all your vids and manage most but work/ family life can make it tricky; especially on those days where you are pumping out more than 3 hours of material and live interviews on top. Even my kids recognise your voice now. 😅 Keep up the great work JP.
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26:05 - Conscientious objectors can still do valuable service assisting the military doing other jobs, even if they are not fighting on the front lines.
Good morning Jonathan. Geopolitics is my favorite video. LMAO 🤣 my brain is a bastard! God love ya mate.
Hi Alan. Bad 🧠
@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi there
I also "learn alot from JP". The stuff on arms producers having the right to make money for example. The problem is that tomorrow after a bottle of red wine I will have forgotten where I got that idea from. Perhaps that is always the case.
repetition is the key to teaching
@@ATPGeo repetition is the key to indoctrination and good advertising. The key to good teaching is helping people to help themselves.
Hey JP, love the idea to use AI. Great initiative!
Its simple, if no one is defending then what?!? So to make it equal, everyone defends!
great news on use of British Storm Shadows.....it's go time!
I'm sure there was a lot of "holy" ruzzians after that ATACMS strike.
Most definitely take up Ben's offer to explore alternate ways of getting your Ukraine messages out to the universe. I know I usually start my day with ATP 1, but sometimes reality intervenes and by the time my day shakes out, there is so much other news and available sources that no time remains for viewing 'missed' episodes of your great content. Kudos Ben, your idea and offer to help Jonathan is amazing.
17:25 - Once an advanced kit has been provided to Ukraine - any kit - then it is more likely that Ukraine will reorder that same kit in the future as they will have organized units around them and will need resupplies and/or replacements. Be it the US, Germany, France or others - for their manufacturers this is a business.
It is about time that the EU got serious, and supplied their own kind. India is also slow-walking away from this conflict. US may also do the slow-walk away, since Europe is not necessarily a strategic interest, in the long haul.
I also have comments to your reporting on the georgian situation (relative to Ukraine) and geopolitical analysis on the Iran/hamss Gaza Ear. Bob
@0:35 ha! there used to be 5 kids in my family plus either a cat or dog. i'm the middle one 😡. when my mother got frustrated and needed to call me, she would often go through all the other kids names and either the dog or cat(depending on what we had) before she got to me. 👿 and one of use lived 5K miles away.
That AI sounds good, but I like it like it is, more personal.
28:25 - Trying to deplete the enemy's scarce expensive resources by use of cheap abundant means is a well known tactic used by every side in any war I've ever heard of ...
22:20 - The important thing is that the equipment arrive in Ukraine - not who is paying for it or if anyone is making a profit in providing the equipment. That private companies are buying up old stuff on the open market to resell to Ukraine or allies allocating military assistance, they are providing a valuable service by combing the world for available assets and funneling them where they are needed. You can say they are the lubricant that allow the West to keep up support for Ukraine.
Great comprehensive update as usual thank you
Johnno, with regards to forcing Ukrainian nationals living abroad (men and women) to return to Ukraine to help out in its fight against Russia, I think it's such a unique - and important case, that effects us 'all' in Europe so much, I honestly think they should do it. Now, I'm not sitting here in my cosy living room condoning sending others to die for us, what I propose is for Ukraine to make it mandatory for every Ukrainian to at least do something to help! This is a war of sheer survival, and they'll be no country for them to return too if they don't help out. Imagine if everyone ran away! There's so many things they could do without actually fighting on the frontlines. Woman can work in munitions factories, like they did in both world wars, while the older woman ran creches for their children. Old men guarded border posts in quiet areas, reference the UK homeward. Someone has to drive the supply trucks, work the railways, man the factories, guard warehouses from sabotage, and so on. There's a whole list of things they could do without putting themselves in danger physically. Unless they really are just total leeches that always want to take, and never give anything back! I can't believe they're all like that, though. But this is such an exceptional and vital case, I have to support it. The vision I always have in my head, as but one example, is of an old man, an overweight middle aged woman, and a skinny 16 year year old with 20/20 vision, all sat in an observation tower on an isolated part of the Belarus border. Even a guy in a wheel chair can work a radio, or fire a flair. I rest my case before I end up writing a mini novel here. Slava Ukraini ❤ forever!
04:50 - I think it is highly unlikely that those who get elected choose to renounce Cameron's commitment of £3bn in yearly military assistance to Ukraine. They would be hard pressed to give any valid and accepted reason if they did. So £3bn would be the baseline going forward on top of which would come supplemental or extraordinary aid.
In Finland avoiding mobilization nets you prison sentence 0-2 years.
Finland has manditory service for everyone. They know they are on the front line with an invader who has a habit of invading.
30:50 - Russia has vetoed the United Nations' renewal of a panel of UN experts monitoring North Korea's compliance with international sanctions. The Russian move follows accusations from the United States, South Korea and others that Pyongyang is supplying Moscow with weapons to use in its war in Ukraine. Google search Mar 29, 2024.
Oo, 2nd Easter! I’ll take it, even tho atheist (as to the Christian god). Fam & food & egg hunts for the kids ❤️
JP, war or no war the procurement rules are the same and it’s highly regulated and profits are restricted! What happens is the the qualities increase and thus the profits made are significantly higher
The UK had made the firm financial & predictable commitment. It's time for the others to follow the lead.
and Hi to Tania and Chris which I couldn't respond earlier.
On the chat bot summary idea (sorry, Philosopher of language and AI, and AI researcher, and I refuse to call what we have these days "AI"), yes. I often do not have time to listen to all of your videos. I often listen to your hits and losses video now, and then have to fast forward through your other content unless something particular important happened. So, an on the fly summary would be awsome. If something is particularly important, then I will go watch the full video when I have a moment, rather than possibly skip something important all together. probably would lead me to watch more videos, rather then less.
Can confirm using AI to summarise your videos has been useful for me to digest much content in a short amount of time (i have been doing the same thing using OpenAI API) he's right about Claude being much more powerful than Open AI (although using local LLMs has proven to be just as effective if not more so in digesting the video content), I'd highly recommend taking him up on his offer! that kind of data in a vector database will allow you to pull some interesting stats from all the front line updates you have done, as well as spot trends where you missed them before, not to mention chapters in your videos and even a full transcription for captions, what he is/has managed so far, sounds beyond useful in so many ways, perfect for perplexing pontification!
33:34 fantastic. NEEDED a voice if John in italian or spain or major languages
I wouldn't personally be interested in these AI summaries...
Go with the AI idea as a daly roundup. Some of us need a catch-up if we couldn’t get the individual updates of the day. As good as you are Jp it’s unlikely I would spend the time if I missed a day to catch-up the next day. It would be interesting to see what effect it had on your individual update watch figures. It has to include cockwombles and my brain is a bastard!
Mwah!
I think your younger self with anti-war leanings might protest your older self, while your older self may spank your younger self for stupidity. The difference is youthful optimism versus aged realism, knowing that the inevitable happens and being prepared for that eventual outcome.
Are you advocating I take myself away for some self-spanking?
@@ATPGeo That kind of thing I leave in the hands of your wife. But we all look back on the leanings of our youth and wonder, what the hell was I thinking then. I have taken along road to understanding that which matters and the worries of youth trying to make so many happy that didn't really matter. The task before us matters, with world security and some kind of democracy for all so that we may move forward. So to all the idealists, I salute the rights you have to protest and voice an opinion, but always remember many died to give you and the world that right, and it is up to all of us to make sure we uphold that sacrifice for our futures.
I saw the $3 billion commitment by Britain yesterday but it was followed up by a retraction of the story. Not sure what that means.
yeah, Reuters retracted, then it all came out anyway.
What happened to the first try to load this?
Thanks, I thought i had just watched it all and was wondering why it as showing up again
@@whatnowstinky glitch or yt acting funny again..
Has cameron commitment could also be a ploy to empty the coffers before Labour takes over, it would be accepted by Labour though.As any arguments about it would not look good, plus the people agree to support Ukraine.
Mr Pierce, I am a 35-year-old American, US Army veteran, and I have followed your channel for over a year. I respect your work, research, and your attempts to objectively report the facts on the war in Ukraine, as well as making good-willed arguments why the West ought to act strongly in support of Ukraine. On those fronts, I am your ally. I am also here to challenge you to grow beyond your leftist thinking. Socially, I am very liberal, but your kind (and it reminds me of a popular American blogger, Jake Broe) always fail to criticize the obvious hypocrisy in western governments. It was Angela Merkel's green (Russia friendly) policies that filled Russia's war chest and made the EU wholly dependent on a war monger. It was the leftists that refused to fund NATO and US military (here as well as the EU). Obama's DoD scrapped the F22 and cut funding for American aircraft carriers. He mocked Senator Mitt Romney when he said Russia was the greatest geopolitical adversary of the West. Even now, 6+ civil and criminal investigations have materialized against Trump PRECISELY in time to be center stage for the elections.... Surely you cannot believe these are coincidences. Putin has a ready reply for any calls of autocracy as kangaroo courts in New York wipe their rumps with the US Constitution. Every one of those cases is COMPLETELY UNPRECIDENTED. If you have not read enough to know this, you know nothing of our laws and constitution. I genuinely respect your opinions, and I hope this is one of the many comments you claim to read and respond to. I listen (mostly not watching because I am working) to all of your videos, aside from the "full front-line," and it would make my day if you were to politely opine to this challenge.
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Unprecedented for a president to be caught with not only paying off a port star, but a playboy bunny 👯 not to mention all of the other crimes. 👐
HIMARS and M270 use the same launch pods and launch control system (inside the cab). Britain and Germany have slightly customized/upgraded versions M270 HIMARS carries 1 missile pod M270 carries 2 missile pods (can be mixed missiles) Chunmoo carries 2 missile pods (SKorea version of HIMARS/M270) Chunmoo built in SKorea and Poland (later) HIMARS on US wheeled truck. M270 on US tank tread chassis Chunmoo on Polish wheeled truck The HIMARS US provided to Ukraine apparently had the launch control system geofenced, aka "dumbed down", to prevent targets in Russia British provided ones apparently are not dumbed down Chunmoo in Poland uses a polish specific Launch Control System, that ties in with all other Polish battle field target assignment system Chunmoo can fire US HIMARS build missiles Chunmoo has 5 or 6 SKorean build missile sizes and pods (I think, not confirmed) that US HIMARS/M270
Tat looks feasable, if it save times, then try it.
You cannot avoid military conscription of Finland easily by moving abroad, you have to probably get medical release or do civil service. But Ukraine is being invaded and Russia is an invader, many countries accept men refusing to join Russian military as conscientious objectors and political refugees.
Why is youtube that this news was deleted?
18:00 - Just an à propos: Check out SIPRIS list of the world's 100 largest military manufacturers - quite revealing, but not surprising.
30:00 - This falls squarely under the sanctions regime and the companies in question are likely to face penalties.
great news all round here. Those radars sound really competent. Has Russia got an equivalent to the 4D radars with 250 Km range? Those F-16 bombs France will deliver will make a big difference compared to last year. America has pledged to send as many ATACMS as possible. To me that means 3000 ATACMS which they have lying about. UK saying Ukraine can hit inside Russia. Good news all round.
Those AI summaries sound like a great idea!
From people on the ground in Ukraine they reported Russians are just 6 miles from the main highway that supplies the whole Eastern Ukraine and if the reach the highway there are no good alternatives and the east and Dnipro may not be able to be held. Aid came to late (tbd) and they lack soldiers as well. Preparation for talks appear to be starting because if that happens the east may be lost.
The above was from the Greg Terry experience KZhead yesterday.
26:23 You have a duty to protect your country. All good when you live there, use the public infrastructure and all that your ancestors built and bled for, but when all that comes under threat you selfishly run away? There was a time when being called a coward was a title of shame. There isn't anything immoral in sending Ukrainians dodging the draft back to Ukraine. All that being said, there are more jobs in the military besides front line duty. Personally, I prepare myself by learning to fly with drones now (suggest your boys do the same, you never know). I would be scared, but if duty calls I think I wouldn't hesitate for one second. What is my life worth if I am not willing to sacrifice it to give my daughter an opportunity to live free, as I have?
Your statement sounds right, until it's analysed and it completely falls apart. Who has the right to take force able control of someone else's body? If they do have that authoratory -just how many able bodied adult females have been drafted? That's right -zero.
@@UFO-Ark You do realize that our society, democratic or otherwise, is held together by the threat of force, right? We give police guns and the authority to use them. We build prisons with the intent of locking people up. The government has been given the right to use force since the dawn of civilization. The abc of political science when you look up 'state monopoly on violence'. So much for your analysis.
@@UFO-Ark The state has the authority to use violence. It has been like that since the dawn of the nation-state. I made a comment before but I think it got deleted. Either way, you didn't seem to have analyzed it very deeply.
@@Subher0 that's a poor answer because it's based on a country's laws being fundamentally deemed as always right. So Germany was RIGHT to execute the Jews simply because they changed the law? No country should be able to take control of an individuals body especially if they are victimising one group of people rather than asking the whole able bodied adult population. Sorry but hiding behind the laws don't make a thing right or moral.
@@UFO-Ark You fundamentally misunderstand what I am talking about. You stated that nobody has the right to enact violence. That is incorrect. I replied that the state has the monopoly and authority to use violence. This is simply a fact, whether you like it or not. I never said that the state enacting violence under any circumstance is always right. I made the argument that drafting men to defend the country is right, and that deporting men to that country who fled the draft is morally just. You are talking about nazi's and killing Jews. You're not at all talking about what I am talking about.
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That means more eggs !?
I just saw that there is a fire in GmbH factory in Berlin, anybody knows if they makes anything that should go to Ukraine, really hope it's not a russian sabotage.
it's not to do with defence: misreported. Diehl Metal - automotive.
Draft dodgers must go back. Including denys
I had seen the previous report. Has the video been banned?
This is reload, no clue why the first was deleted
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We already know about the fire in the Diehl factory in Berlin so there is no need to inform us about it.
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i chose not to because it was to do with the automotive industry, not Diehl defence etc.
Passive aggressive much?
@@surpriseitsus9622 What does that mean?
I would offer the left-wing guys the possibility to emigrate to russia once they're caught and finished their jail time. Not forcing which is illegal, but offering them the chance to get rid of their german passport and get a russian one instead. During the Cold War that has been common.
Someone said euros or dollars, I told them pounds.
5th.
Sup bois
1.25 dollars to the pound. 1.17 euros to the pound.
How many kilograms to the pound?
@williammorris584 Humor, me bucko! Just throwing some levity into the pot...
My memory went to pot when I became a carer. Too many people trying to tell you that your doing it wrong.
@@denismorgan9742 I have a wife for that...
I will ask again - if they could do it again would countries have fought with Poles to defeat Hitler IN Poland or wait until they were attacked again? Apparently only France would choose to beat Hitler in Poland, because stopping Putin in Ukraine is the same thing. It is as foolish saying the US or UK won't put troops in Ukraine as it would have been saying they wouldn't put American or British troops on the ground in Poland or France, it led to them putting them in Germany itself. Realistically they don't know what is going to happen with Putin, even being forced to put them in Russia. Ruling that out only greenlights Putin to go further,. Stupid.
You make some great points. I have thought about this scenario myself. Even though our leaders could logically come to your conclusion, would our citizens coalesce around them? Or would our leaders be booted out of office for a more “non confrontational” candidate. It seems we are far removed from our “greatest generation” who lived through, and fought in such times.
What about beating Stalin in Poland? His troops took just as much land.
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I think Benny's ideas of an AI generated summary of your videos would be good if he can keep them long enough to actually say something unique for each one. They wouldn't be very useful if they were just 'so and so donated some stuff, such a place got hit by a middle, Ukraine needs stuff and Donald is a douchebag. Maybe 2 or 3 sentences on each subject. I watch all your videos but I have plenty of time to do so. For people who have less time might find a summary good and can pick and choose which videos to watch.
people in democracies know how good life can be, they don't want to fight and die in a war. there was never that much democray and peace in (western) europe in the whole history of mankind, as it was since 1945, even when we not forget about yugoslavia. if putin wins this war, this will be the first time in modern times that a dictator wins a war and keeps the prey. and then he will conquer invade the next country. my prediction: austria, with the help of hungary, serbia and slovakia. because austria is not willing to defend itself.
I would definitely appreciate something AI based to condense your information!
lol UK.. superpower 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The idea of sending conscientious objectors back to Ukraine and denying them the right to asylum is not a "moral minefield". It is perfectly straight forward. You only need to read the Geneva Convention on Refugees and all will be clear. Claiming asylum or refugee status (there is a difference that we can ignore here) is a so-called subjective right that singatory states have to examine from case to case. That means if I, assumeing that I were a male ukrainian that Ukraine would like to conscript, claim refugee status in a signatory country (i.e. every european country) then my subjective fear concerning any eventual danger to my person or health, for example russians shooting at me were I to be conscripted, not only must be taken into consideration but it is beneficial to my claim and its chances of sucess. Most male refugees from the middle east who have fled to Europe are here because of this right that they have under international law. That explains why there are so many young male-refugees here. They often say: "if I had stayed in my country I would have had to kill or be killed". Sorry JP, I know that you would like to send them back, but that ain't gonna happen. And that is part of our humanistic heritage that you or the AFD can't change overnight. But I wouldn't mind if Denys Davidov who fled to Switzerland to avoid conscription although he is a pilot and could aim an F16 at Putin were sent back. He said some things that border on racism.
I have no views on sending me back. Unfortunately, you do this too often: you misinterpret my position and claim it is something it is not. I have said before that Ukraine really needs those people, objectively - they need an army. But I have not given my own opinion on whether I would send them back if I was one such country. Because ?I? don't know what I would do. The moral minefield bit is this: " is a so-called subjective right that signatory states have to examine from case to case." ie it is no overwhelmingly clear-cut. Hence some countries saying they will and some saying they won't. Also, I would be interested in what your opinion of differentiating refugee status on conscription is - would a Finn be entitled to refugee status? If not, why not? It is merely to do with war, then surely conscription/mobilization during war is a morally compromised idea. The core issue is forcing one to do something one does not want to do - it's acceptable unless there's a higher level of probability of harm. But where's the demarcation there?
@@ATPGeo I didn't say or imply that you would "send them back". I was just making the point that there is no point in reporting on this issue because it hasn't a hope in hell of happening as international law stands. You might just as well discuss whether the moon is made of cheese or does god exist? Oh actually I think you have probably done that in the past. What I do "to often" is not 'accuse' you of believing something that you don't believe in. But I do try to point out to you when your reporting is ambivalent or ambiguous, which it occasionally is.
@@ATPGeo What "some countries will or won't do" is irrelevant to this discussion because what they can or cannot do is dictated by the Geneva Convention on Refugees that they, the signatories were all obliged to incorporate into their respective national legislation. If a country doesn't adhere to the principles set out there (like the UK for example at present) then they are in contravention of the convention and subject to internatunal scrutiny and sanctions. Subjective rights are indeed clear cut. I beg to disagree. If a ukrainian male refugee says that he is afraid of being shot at, etc, by russians were he in Ukraine, be will automatically be recognised as a refugee. That is what a refugee is, whether one likes it or not. Those rights exist for us too. In Eritrea, Somalia and Mozambique, Uganda, Berundi, etc 14 year old boys were forced to join the army and massacre civilians. If there were no international agreement that would stop them being sent back if they fled then the world would be a different place. But most of this is irrelevant in relation to Ukraine because the backlog of asylum and refugee claims in Europe is so great that the authorities do not have the capacity to process all these cases. The process of claiming refugee status can last months, even years. If you are turned down (which hardly ever happens), you can appeal and hire a good lawyer specialised in asylum law. Because of this backlog and burocracy the EU passed a bill that makes ukrainian refugees exempt from this procedure. For all intese and purposes they are treated as any other EU national. They can settle in any EU country of their choosing and claim welfare benefits, etc. I am not a great fan of thr EU, but they got this bit right. Now try sending them back to Ukraine. So whether this is a "moral minefield" for you is irrelevant. You, I and nobody else has a say. The moral deliberation was done in 1947. Try overturning that!
@@ATPGeo A Finn could only claim refugee status in another country if he or she claimed that he or she was in danger of physical harm or persecution in Finland. So that includes things like war, pogroms, torture or any threat of physical or mental torture, oppression due to racial, religious, ethnic or homophobic disrimination, etc. All the bad things as it were. Unlikely in Finland at present. He or she could also claim political asylum, which is harder to obtain if they can demonstrate that they were subject to state sanctions in their country of origin because of what they say, or express, in a painting, film, poem or KZhead blog for example. So people like you and me I guess.
@@ATPGeo "conscription during wartime is a moraly compromised idea". Why? What "demarcation"? Stop thinking through morals. Geopolitics is more about accepting what the world is like than what you or others would like it to be like. You tend to vassilate between both poles but you should mediate them for peace of mind. States make their own laws and they pass laws of conscription in order to survive. The Spartans built their whole culture around this principle. It didn't help them much though.
Jon, Regarding the draft, your slightly wrong.. If the draft doesnt apply to ALL able bodied adults equally then any groups that are targetted are being persicuted based on their gender. Imagine if the British government said only asains were to be made to fight (racial persecution) or if they said only girls were to be forced to fight -would u still support it?
Yo DO NOT know Labour will win the GE. Your language in this regard sounds reckless and unprofessional. Their chances are very high, but not definite.
As it stands, it seems highly probable. If reform stand in most constituencies, then Conservatives are screwed.
Hey y'all in the comments. Should the U.S fund the Ukraine? Why or why not? (Note: I'm just curious).
if they leave before being drafted they are refugee
possibly even after