What Algorithms are WORTH Learning?
The most important algorithm sets! You don't have to jump right into new algs after OLL and PLL, but when you feel like learning algs, choose from these sets!
Winter Variation and COLL are good sets to start with.
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It's worth learning the good cases (but not necessarily all of the cases) of every algorithm set I mentioned! Except: VHLS: don't learn this. ZBLS: only if you plan to learn lots of ZBLL. Any alg set not worth learning by today's standards has been left out of the video.
@@YitzharVered dont be so rude he just politely asked
VHLS: learn sledgehammer EO
@김기성 thanks
@김기성 ik but i tried 😔
I made many COLL,Ollcp and verious tricks and algorithms myself. Btw when is Ekka/Orozocco tutorial is coming?
Me, who only knows 2 look OLL/PLL: Nice
Me who is to lazy to learn the last few 2 look algs Dis be wacky
@Zubeen Bhuiyan OLL not as important as PLL. Im going to finish PLL first. Only have G and N perms left
Zubeen Bhuiyan No 2 look both when I wrote this.
Same but i do not know 3 g perms yet
Same here lol
Make a Video in which you give a tier to every Algorithm set
Here #1 Roux or CFOP #2 ZZ #3 PETRUS #4 WATERMAN #5 HEISE #6 IDK???!?????
@I Z I don't think there are enough methods to make a tier list
@@xXFlojoXx You can if you start to count beginner's method, blockbuilding and computer's methods
Khánh Nam Nguyễn Alg set, not solving method.
@@xXFlojoXx bro LBL, CFOP, ROUX, ZZ, Petrus, Samsara, Waterman, WaterROUX, Belt, Ribbon, Heise, Snyder, Pochmann, LMCF, etc??
just learn a couple quintillion algorithms to 1 look the whole cube instead
Or be Jack Cai
@@trangium And do memo in inspection
There actually is an algorithm that cycles through every single cube state exactly once! Performing this is guaranteed to solve the cube eventually.
Yeah but in the description of that video it said it was a joke
@@andrewsshortanimations7563 What video?
"Sexy Sledge" is honestly one of the weirdest cubing terms I've heard
Soon, we will be memorizing algorithm sets for solving the whole cube in one algorithm.
That would be surprising, considering there's several quintillion possible scrambles
@@sword7166 If computers can do it in not even one second, so can we, with practice.
@@rubikscubedude4028 practice it then
Rubikscubedude The odds that you get a scramble that you already practice is litteraly 0%
I now im a Lot but a Lot later but as 0% chance of geting a 20 move alg isn't practical
How 4 days of planning my first pair has changed cubing for me: i have an interesting story about planning my first pair. I don't really know how to describe this phenomenon I had, but I will try my best. about 4 days ago i actually tried to start planning my first pair, like actually trying. i have been stuck around 15 seconds for months now, and i decided to give it a try. i would take 2 minutes on each scramble just trying to plan out where every piece moved, once i knew where they would all go, i would add an extra move to see how far ahead i could look. I immediately saw a .5-1 second difference. i woke up the next day, not expecting much, and i immediately came back where i left off. I could plan so much further ahead, but i needed about 30 seconds. I was surprised by this, one day made this much of a difference. WHAT REALLY BLEW MY MIND: I am duel color neutral (White and Yellow), but after 3 days of practicing my first pair, I am almost consistently behind 2 seconds on all crosses now. I tried for months to catch up on blue/green/orange/red, and these couple days "Unlocked" something where i can do different crosses easier (I have to attempt to plan first pair or they will be sub-par compared to W/Y.) So in 4 days total, my times have dropped from 15 average to 13.5 average, i broke my pb twice (now 8.63), broke my AO5 with 11.30, broke my AO12 with 12.39, and broke my AO50 with 13.39. If you've managed to read all this, PLEASE PLAN YOUR FIRST PAIR!!!! in DAYS it has improved my solves and i have a higher motivation to improve than ive ever had. I know its difficult, i put it off for so long, but i knew i would never make sub-10 without planning first pair. JUST DO IT!!! bonus notes: acouple days ago i wouldnt even be able to track my second pair, and now i can plan it in my scramble on easy crosses, my biggest struggle is making all the solutions to the cross + 1st f2l into one fluid motion. I cant imagine where ill be months from now. Dont waste your time trying to improve by doing the same thing. PLAN 1ST PAIR. WORK ON 2 SIDED PLL RECOGNITION. BURN EVERY ALGORITHM INTO YOUR BRAIN. and something people dont realize is much easier than you think, LEARN FULL OLL. You will improve so much quicker Thank you for reading EDIT: I just got my first sub-10 average ever. previous best was 10.29 and i got 9.73 today. (July 30, 2021)
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What an impassioned post! I'm still slooow but my cross building is pretty good so I'll give your advice a spin, thanks!
Bro, u should have like, at least, 2000 likes
I'm new to speedcubing but want to give it a try, so what is planning out your first pair? Is that a pair of algorithms?
SqUiD BrAiN this youtube channel, J Perm, has a tutorial on planning your first pair. it is a difficult process to get down, and takes quite a bit of intuition. basically, while you are doing your first step, the Cross, you watch and try to plan out where your first corner and edge will be. it is fairly complicated to explain over text but there are plenty of youtube videos over it :) good luck with your cubing process :)
Imma start learning the 1L4ALAO set of algorithms *1 Look For All Layers At Once* A.K.A. ATPS *All The Possible Scrambles*
U mean 1LAL
Why not call it 1lC (1 look Cube)
So 49 quintillion algs? Noice
game-o-mania -1
F3L
Agh why is you’re content so good it’s like I can’t stop watching it
CinderCubing your
Nice a cuber and GD player wassup
Unbelivable video! It explains all these last layer methods! I never knew anything about them but kept hearing about em all the time.
Literally the Feliks Zemdegs of tutorials
Ironically, feliks do have tutorials ( cubeskills) but not as good as jperm
Mr. Boner solve got 69 likes
I went from Badmephisto, to Cyotheking, to J Perm. Badmephisto's tutorials were revolutionary at the time. Then, Cyotheking took them to another level and added much better video quality. Now, J Perm has dethroned both of them. Cyotheking's tutorials were so good back then when he posted cubing related content consistently. I wish Cyotheking continues his cubing content, but I guess the saying "every journey has an end" applies for anything in life. Luckily, we have J Perm around and he's killing it!!! His content somehow keeps getting better and he always find ways to create original content. As long as J Perm continues his cubing tutorials, I can't see anyone come close to dethroning J Perm at all.....
Hearing winter variation gave me chills, cuz now I know all of cfop quite well, these are like secret bosses
Hey, J Perm! I literally did the algorithm at the time around 8:09 in the chapter ZB law. And it gave me a J perm! Amazing 😉
Lucky
9:57 look at the boy in the background.
Bro thank you so much VLS helped out a lot!
Absolutely fascinating. I got my first taste of cubing in 1982 when I was 10/11 years old and Rubix was huge back then. Then I got back into it in 2005 and learned a lot of the algorithms, and even competed here in the UK (in 2012). I've managed sub 30 average, but it has been on the back burner since 2013. I've watched a few of the bigger cubing channels out there in the last few years and I pick up my 3x3 every now and then and cube for a few hours. But lately I've been missing it and now (at 49 years old) I feel like picking it up again and going even deeper with the learning, and aiming for sub 20 at some point. Your video was very inspirational.
Im rooting for you
Anyone realized he spelled Rubik's wrong?
@@Fibero-Fibero69_420 who cares
@@krosskancelvlogs Oh come on! @@
@@Fibero-Fibero69_420 i get it, yeah, he spelled it wrong. i just say that bcz i dont really believe it matters. too many cubers get so upset when someone spells it wrong, and i just think its dumb.
before I learned these, I just thought that whatever I did to insert the last F2L and solve the top was merely a convenience. Now i understand I've been using some of these algs without knowing.
for BLE, an easy but probably slower alternative is to use an edge commutator, like a U perm. You set up the edge you want to insert to the UF sticker, and bring its slot to the UR sticker, then you can do a u perm with an AUF prior to it, or R2 U' R2 S R2 S' U R2 and undo the set ups
Stepan Valerivich wut?
4:44 Here, I just use: (R' U') (R' U') (R' U) (R U R), which is part of one of the U-Perm algs.
Hywon Cha - Music me too
I use u-perm with M moves
Thank you so much, Im confused what I should learn for LL, now I can easily choose it, thank you
You have amazing videos, also, really concise and easy to understand tutorials
Agreed
For the second BLE case you showed (where all the OLL pieces are facing up), there's a much shorter alg you can use, although it uses E moves With the slot to your left and edge in front (matching with the centre) do: R' E R U' R' E' R (E moves follow same direction as D moves) You can optionally do u U' for the last E move if you find it suits you better
Tom Salmon thats the wrong alg
@@khanhnguyennam6007 oh yeah thank you, I swapped the E moves by accident
That’s not a very good alg.
Thanks 🙏 it helped !
I’ve contemplated using ELL instead of OLLCP. If you get a regular OLL, just solve the corners and do ELL.
That is also called ROUX
I’ve ended this video for ages as I’m looking at learning some new algorithms thanks again
When I get a cross case I use COLL (or occasionally one of the few ZBLLs I know) and I can say it’s worth learning and not too difficult to learn if you know CLL on 2x2, I’m about to start learning some winter variation cases
Hows it goin?
5:24 3x sledge hammer also works
Also the 72 cases of TTLL
R2 U2 R2 U’ R2 U’ R’ works as well.
3:47, a simple case of this is Doing an S(or maybe S') before inserting the pair and the undo the S move
Also a great Subset of ZBLL which is definitely worth it would be 2GLL, so all the ZBLLs that only use R and U moves, and there are 82 Cases. I think it's the only Alg Set that's worth it to learn completely.
Do you know where I can learn this?
@@JudeStradtner Any ZBLL algorithm site will include all of these algs. I'd recommend that you start by using COLL in your solves, since 2GLL relies on being able to recognize when your corners are permuted (which is what distinguishes 2GLL from the rest of ZBLL); once you're recognizing corner permutation automatically, then I would consider 2GLL, and maybe even the rest of an easy ZBLL set (T or U.) Word of caution: If you get a sune or antisune, DON'T bother with ZB or 2GLL. Just doing the 7 move OLL into whatever PLL you get will be faster 9 times out of 10, and that one time isn't worth the other nine (or the effort that goes into learning the algs). Good luck!
@@comp.lex4 Thank you so much! How fast would you recommend I be before learning any of this? I currently average 10.4 but I don’t use cross +1.
@@JudeStradtner I average 15, probably jumped the gun on some of this haha. But I think you're definitely in a position to benefit. Cross+1 will also probably give you a huge timesave, though, so it's really up to you
I've just learned intuitive f2l and have memorized all 2 looks for the last layer. In a couple of weeks, and have a sub 60 second PB. Then I watch some advance alg videos and ponder my future of cubing 😥
oof
Don’t be discouraged. You can get under 15 seconds with a good F2L 2look OLL and full PLL.
Hope you're still cubing! Learning algorithms isn't as hard as it gets made out to be- and most of the algs in this video are never really "necessary" until you start breaking the 10 second mark.
Thx Jperm for telling me what alg to do
Can you make a video with algorithms you can use if your last f2l slot is missing an edge and you want to insert the edge and at the same time orienting the last layer edges
At 5:20 you can do triple sledge!
It's a bit slower
@@cheelive9548 yeah
Or you could use R2 U2 R2 U’ R2 U’ R2.
Now Someone Needs To Introduce JPLL ( J PERM LAST LAYER )
Step 1: Pray for last layer skip.
@@gcubing_4064 Step 2: Fail Ridiculously And Get A J Perm
I like the OOPS method more
Thanks for this. Just got back to cubing after 30 years away from the thing as my 6 year old girl showed interest. This video is amazing
For last layer solve I do the oll and pll of the yellow cross then oll and pll of the corners.
5:24 can be solved in one look only 72 algs. It's called TTLL.
That's funny. I generated half of those algs (cases with edges phased) and posted it on the speedsolving forum under a different name a year earlier than it says it was proposed on the speedsolving wiki. Nice to know the full set is out there now if I ever decide to get back into cubing.
Cfop for me is it's C-Cross F-F2L's O-Over P-Powered
In cfop method is like 100 and more algortims that icludes full f2l full OLL and FULL PLL
Enjoying the videos j perm Keep up the good work.
Agreed
Few decades later: Should you learn full 1LLL (1 look of last layer?)
Few centuries later: Should I learn all the 1LF2L algs?
@@aleksinuutila2315 wait is that a real alg set? (btw🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮)
there are thouthand of algs gor this and it's impossible for normal people to learn
@Shikhar Tripathi for 1LLL it's just like nearly 4000 or something
Should you oearn one turn
ZBLL seems worth learning more and more since edge orientation is a step or substep in Roux, ZZ, and APB, and CFOP even benefits from it
This was very helpful thx
outstanding solutions
Hey guys, I have a question about Speedcubes. Is it recommendable to use a cube without lubing it? Or is it necessary to lube a good cube?
If it is a good speedcube, then it might not need lube but if it is dry or dandy then it will
Lube also helps it last a lot longer and i recommend cleaninf your cube every now and then
Can you make a video on how to memorize rare algorithms please (because they never show up and I hesitate to remember the algorithm)
Which ones specifically
Use.tao yu's alg trainer
Maybe hes talking bout the ALMIGHTY ZBLL#69
@@khanhnguyennam6007 which OCLL set though?
Idk
I’ve been fidgeting with cubes and solving them since 2007. Im a fast 30-35 second average with beginner method and only just now deciding to learn cfop. Wish me luck
I use Cfop method mostly Advanced FTL and This helped alot
Yo
Me thinking whether I should learn VHLS Also me: only knows 42 OLLs
@Henry Stilley laughs in not being able to memorise intuitive algorithms... yep that's me right now. i can solve a rubiks cube in under 3 mins no problem but the damned second layer is my worst enemy.
Well I use the beginner method right now, with an average of 1:25, but I want to learn to speedcube and get faster. And then I saw all the algorithms you have to memorize, and I'm slowly dying trying to understand
I am working on full pll. I know the feeling.
Could you do a tutorial for OMLL? (one move last layer)
EASY. CASE WHERE YOU HAVE TO TURN U SIDE CLOCKWISE: U AND COUNTERCLOCKWISE: U'
go to any pll video and skip to the part where he does auf
*Please make a video on edges part in roux , I don't understand the eay you explain that topic* 🙏 *please*
6:28 Was this the algorithm that Tymon used for his 1LLL on his 4.51 single official?
LR Cubing yeh
Thank you for this.
I used to think professional cubers would just have to do the whole thing at once
This is the video I wated for. Thank you a lot
Fabio Asaro waited*
Khánh Nam Nguyễn thaks bro
You didn’t fix it
This is my favorite cubing video. I've watched this video so many times. If there is any room for a follow up, or a more in depth video, please make it! Edit: Coming here after seeing on Twitter that someone learned 1LLL.
There are 3 people in the world that have learned full 1LLL.
@@JudeStradtner edmarter, him and himself? Lol
@@edmarter7717 Well hello! Hmm, I though there was somebody else who knew it. Oh, never mind, I was thinking of two other people who know almost all of 1LLL, sorry!
wait full 1lll. man that is crazy
@@edmarter7717 wait you KNOW 1LLL dude like HOW
This video is so helpful! I was just thinking, "OLL literally makes me want to die. SO. MANY. ALGS. What ones are worth learning?" Scans J Perm. "GASP! Found something!" Thank you so much!
GemGem32 that last part is cringe
but... these are harder than just oll
paper2222 they are, a little bit, but if you have a good understanding of the cube you can do most of it intuitively
It isn’t that hard watch cubeheads video on it
Congrats for 175k subs
Congrats on 175K subs
Thank you for clearing up what these terms mean and what alg set they belong to! 👍
Wow Anthony Brooks knows thousands of algorithms
Not thousands though
I thought ZBLS is a very huge set and I’m exaggerated
COLL, ZZLL and ZBLL are pretty much the only viable ones out of these imo
What about VLS?
@@rotgutthebloated4730 and WV
I know it's a part of it
ZZLL is my FaVoRiTe algorithm set
Phasing isn't worth ZZLL, the cases aren't even the better half of ZBLL
So since I use Petrus, I should probably be learning ZBLL? Since my LL edges are always oriented by the time I get there.
BRO SWITCH TO CFOP PETRUS SUCKS XD
can you make more 2x2 and 3x3 bld example solves ?
The time is 2100: me, yes got my first sub 4, J perm, yes got my first sub 1 Felix, yes got my first sub milo second
felix would be worm food by then. this isnt funny
@@kaz8297 your taking it to seriously
@@uuproverlord8324 problem?
Wait...there's more than 4 algorithms? 🤯
Theres more than 800 algorithms including add-ons.
So I decided that since school will most likely be online this year, that I would learn or at least try to learn how to speedcube. Man I'm going to drown in all the algorithms!
@@bowpro6670 I was being sarcastic... 😏
@@Stardipped_Paws to improve beyond my :27 PB using beginner CFOP, I've been trying to move on to advanced. Currently stuck at FTL still getting worse times than with beginner. Everyone tells me I'll get worse times before I get better, but I'm sheesh... I'm really ready for better.
@@Internetpilot how long have you been into cubing?
I use the one look layer Alg that you showed instead for F' (L' U' L U) Case
First time In years that I'm excited for learning, incredible
*J Perm Uploads* Me: *Clicks*
Same
This joke is so overused its not funny anymore
Heyyy jperm upload!!
Mathias R you early
I think VHLS is good if you have an L shape on top before the last pair, but honestly that can be done intuitive, so learning it is definitely not worth it
This. This is what I like to do instead of practising for my calculus exam.
yeah who would avoid learning full oll and use that vhls + coll combo for years?? absolutely not me. nope not at all. i'm not crying.
dicxjo wow your that desperate
will you review the yuxin little magic 4x4 m beacuse i need to know if its better than wuque🤷♂️
I used to work on navy vessels for a living, and hearing VLS gave me whiplash
Thanks J Perm!!!
Challenger approaching V Perm
*Minecraft hypixel bedwars tnt explosion* Has literally nothing to do with ths channel
1:10 it just sounds like he’s saying it’s easy to learn 57 long oll algs lol
It is just watch cube heads video on it it makes it seem extremely easy
You'd be surprised! Most algs can be broken down into short "triggers," and since they each preserve the first two layers, they follow similar patterns a lot of the time.
I use vhls rarely but I honestly think it’s pretty good if learning zbll
COLL stands for Corners and Orientation Last Layer
What about the 43 quintillion one look crossf2lollpll algorithms?
U mean 1LAL 1 Look All Layers
You have exactly 175k Subscribers when I am making this comment Edit: never mind two more people subbed
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Clumsy Cuber hi
What if you did you did eo at the beginning of your solve like Zz but instead of block building you just do regular cfop f2l pairs. Then you learn full zbll because during last layer you will always get edges oriented.
Profit
totaly agree
JPerm: Talks about OLS and ZBLL 'cause he's a pro. Me: Cringes at 0:26 E-perm.
Krzysztof Jabłoński why
@@khanhnguyennam6007 not my favourite PLL to say the least. I'm still getting lock-ups ~3 in 5 times I try to do it fast, not to mention failing every time I'm getting E-perm in an actual solve. I really suck at it.
@@krzysztof_jablonski try the alternative E perm alg. (F' r U R' U' r' F R) U2 (r U R' U' r' F R F') that is (bowtie OLL) U2 (fat T OLL). I'm sure good cubers can execute the standard E perm faster, but it sounds like you and I both struggled with it, and this alg completely avoids lockups. I never looked back.
@@krzysztof_jablonski you can also do z U2 R2 F (R U R' U') F' R2 U2 but that's super slow.
Why am I watching this I average 20
Why am I watching this I average 30
Why am i watching this i avarage 1 min@@ASE_Ridern123
Why am I watching this I average 10
I avarage 20 and use the ZB method (no sune/antisune), you can learn algorithms early if you want
Sheeeesh man@@spektator5418
Please make a video on 'Pyraminx Advanced Method' with all algorithms
In the first VHLS case M'URU'r' is usually faster and more fingertrick friendly in my opinion.
Aleksi Nuutila no
No views but 9 comments. Well done KZhead. Let's get a round of applause people.
coaster 10110 seriously
coaster 10110 i was agreeing with you bud
This is how many algorithms J Perm knows I I I V
Jperm knows 2 algs!
@@giladv6038 3 by me
Now 6
Now 7
Stop trying to get free likes, it's stupid
Good video idea!
I got a car ad before this came on and the first line was: “we are defined by algorithms”
you are the best speed cube teacher, i am now at an average of 40 seconds a solve, not that good but still I'm getting faster b cause of you:]
@@vemulapalli0091 nice bro my pb is 27 but that was cause I was having a caffeine rush
Mines at 33 seconds, 29 or less on some rare cases
After wv and coll, should you learn vls subsets or zbll subsets? Or is there anything you should learn after wv and coll but before zbll and vls?
Ivo Stoutjesdijk zbll because mirror your vls algs to the left is horrible
HI J Perm, what set of algroithms do you think is the BEST to learn if I just finnished the CFOP list?
@@timeforclock2636 Thank you very much for the suggestion
Brooks last edge is also known as autumn Variation
Speaking of algs. Is it worth learning all the f2l algs and variants for desired slot before memorizing oll and pll? I mean yeah f2l algs seem pretty short but that'd be easily over 150 algs by my estimation. Surely it would be better to stick with intuitive f2l and learn full oil and pll, before circling back and committing to learning all those f2l algs wouldn't it? I'm just thinking the return on investment would be pretty low with f2l compared to having 2lll down. But please lmk what you think of my assumption. Thanks
9:12 bro i did not know that f2l trick holy crap, I struggle with that alot
can you do a tutorial on 7x7 ?
4:44, isnt a commutator using E moves used for this case(from some angles like the back angle)