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I'm not sure if I should be embarassed or proud that I'm still using an i7-2600k
Proud
Same here, aside from a few quirks it still works with a nice OC during that time.
Proud
My i7-3770 - 1030gt system died at the start of the year, just upgraded to an i5-12600k with intel ARC a770 love it.
Embarrassed
As someone who is still running on an i7-4790k, and upgraded to an RX5700XT, I feel like this video was made for me. I never realized how old my pc was until Jay mentioned it in his video about motherboard prices. I have to say, I am very impressed with the performance of this build considering its age. Its held up to modern titles remarkably well. This was my first build at 15 years old, and now I feel it is finally time for a new build. I built this for longevity, and honestly did not expect to get 10 years out of it. Was looking at the 7800X3D, but after seeing all of the controversy in the industry, I am pretty concerned about a reliable setup.. Jay, all of the content you've been releasing has been having a direct affect on my next purchase. I will be staying with your content as I feel you are making content that is very relevant to what's going on with the current market. Keep up the great work! P.S., also a car guy, just picked up a fully built 2014 Z/28 making around 620whp. Would love to see more car content of yours!
The Devil's Canyon 4790K is the best CPU I have owned and I just retired it after 10 years of service.
my 4790k was relegated to living room setup and replaced with 12thgen, paired with gtx 1080 running modern titles at 1080p 144hz still! crazy good longevity from that system
@@jeuan what did you replace it with?
Also still running an i7-4790k, but have it paired with a gtx 1080. Does most things I need it to
@@SUPER8ALTERN8 it actually has blown me away the performance this thing can still put out
Still running my 4770k @ 4.4ghz on air, 10 years later. Just put new thermal paste on the other day. Originally it had a gtx 770 but I upgraded to a 1660ti awhile back. Other than that the only change I've made is adding a second SSD. Going to build something new within the next year I think.
Yeah my PC still runs the 4790k on air just fine! Though one of the fans on my GPU (970) broke and my PCU burned T.T. But the CPU still runs and honestly I've never had any issues with it. I'm looking to buy a whole new system though but I will for sure try to fix my GPU fan, buy a new CPU and then give my old PC to my little brother.
7800x3d is on massive sale right now for $359
Just put a new $20 thermalright cooler on a 4770k build that I've had sitting for years. That and a repaste dropped temps 50 degrees c. It handles all my media, compilation and server tasks fine and is hooked up to a 4k OLED panel
I have the exact same setup but 4670k at 4.4 and I swapped out the 770sc for a 6650xt. I've since built a ryzen 5 7600x but my kids use the z87.
Nice. I'm not feeling quite so embarrassed about my current "Gaming PC" now. :D I'm running an old HP Z230 with a Xeon E3 1246 v3 (Pretty much just an i7 4770/4790 in a business suit), a 6gb GTX 1060, 32gb PC3-12800 mem, a pair of 1tb SSD's in a striped array as my primary drive, and a 4tb mechanical HD for storage. Up until about 15 years ago I was always buying the very pinnacle of the top end kit, I was spending a fortune on the newest top of the line GPU's, CPU's, and motherboards, it was like a bloody addiction ! Then one day I was moving a tote box from under my desk that had a load of my used PC parts inside and it suddenly dawned on me that most these parts that I'd spent a premium for were now worth next to nothing. I had boxes of kit kicking around that had cost me thousands of pounds, stuff that I'd only used for a few months until the next "Best of the best" item came out, then I'd just upgraded away from them. while looking through that tote box I started doing some mental calculations and it was an eye opener to realise that I'd plowed the equivalent to the cost of a couple year old used car into upgrading AWAY from parts that, at the time, many people would have still seen as a major upgrade over what was in their current system. And all just so I could get right to the bleeding edge of gaming technology........ Where I'd only be until the next new thing hit the market ! After that I near as damn it stopped buying PC kit overnight. It felt like a monumental waste of money! So for about 13 years I just kept using the Q6600 with 8gb of DDR2 that I'd had when the spell broke. I upgraded it's 9400 GT for a cheap HD 7850 at some point, and put an SSD in it, but that was about it. It was only recently that I started wanting to play more than a few games that the old system just wouldn't run at any reduced graphics level (Mainly Fallout 4), so I bit the bullet and started to look at what would be the CHEAPEST way I could build something that would allow me to run the current crop of games. It turns out that the Z230 with a 1060 ticked all my boxes. I allowed myself to get the pair of new and reasonable quality SSD's (Samsung) while they were on sale, purely because I knew I wanted the higher data transfer speeds of a raid 1 array, but didn't want to risk doubling the possibility of data loss through a cheep Chinese SSD failing. All in all, I'm pretty happy with this setup because it copes really well with the older games I mainly play, it's quick enough to run almost all the current batch of games (as long as I accept that the graphics sliders aren't going to be going much above the lowest settings), and because I assembled it mainly from "Obsolete" second hand parts, the whole thing cost me less to put together than the price of a modern high end PSU (And most of the parts had already dropped to a price where they're not going to get much cheaper while they're still usable). :D
Dude this is awesome. I just converted my old 4770k to my Proxmox server. Plopped in 32 gigs of ram and a 2.5 gb nic and I am impressed by how capable this old machine is and how well it runs. Cool vid
he said don't drop it you monster you dropped it🤣🤣🤣
I think it scored around the same as my Surface 8 Pro with an 11th gen mobile i7 does.
Videos like this help put into perspective that you don’t need the best graphics card or CPU to be able to play games and still have fun. Please do more of these. Thanks for doing all you do!
I swapped my gtx970 and 4790 out for a 3070 and a 7600 and the first thought I had after launching a game was: "man, this wasn't worth the 900€" lol
@@peterdumpel5729 At a certain point, 1080p gaming is all the same, and 1440 is all the same. The top of the line stuff only matters when you get to 4k or VR. Beyond that, it's a waste of money. CPU speeds can matter more for some games (Paradox strategy games for instance) while the GPU is worthless for them, but besides that, CPU performance in gaming is HEAVILY dependent on single-core speed. AMD CPUs having a billion cores doesn't matter whatsoever for the vast majority of games, because none of them utilize them. The fastest intel single-core CPU will blow away any AMD card that relies on multiple with slower base single core speeds, which is what AMD does. Point is, gaming is largely reliant on very specific things that people building computers don't understand. Game devs have historically never utilized multiple cores well, as an example. Also, most games are ridiculously unoptimized, which means everyone is trying to brute force things with better specs that ultimately have drastically diminishing returns. It isn't just indie devs making these mistakes either. All those PS4 ports like Last of Us or games like Jedi Survivor show exactly how bad it is even with AAA companies.
@@Chris-ey8zf Yeah my old i5 3570k+970 system is still handling 1080p@60 gaming just fine
@@Chris-ey8zf yep VR was what pushed me over, I had a 4790k cpu, replaced the 970gtx with a 3080 (was gpu bound). Worked great until I got a vr headset, then ended up being cpu bound, so had to upgrade cpu in the end as well. Still makes a great non-VR gaming cpu though
All you need is Dosbox.
If you get the W11 install ISO and use Rufus to make the USB stick, Rufus detects the W11 installation files and asks you if you want to bypass W11 hardware requirements and MS account requirement. Stumbled onto that a few months ago. So cool!
Ventoy also offers this feature, in addition to being able to just throw ISOs onto a usb stick and booting to any of them without having to right a rewrite the stick every time. Works great with live ISOs and installers.
@@guido11450 Like YUMI?
@@bootchoo96 Ventoy is not like YUM
@@guido11450 The annoying thing is Ventoy often doesn't work on older systems. Haswell should be good enough but the X58 era systems I've tried didn't.
@@eDoc2020 It fails on X58, most likely because of legacy-BIOS. X58 usually didn't even have UEFI-BIOS.
Still using a 4690k right now. Jay is so right that it was a simpler time, especially when it came to GPUs. Everything was also wayyy cheaper. Haven't changed out a single part on my PC since then. Instead I'm building a totally new one this Christmas, finally. Going from a 4690k to a Ryzen 7700X, a GTX 970 to an RTX 3080, and 16gb of DDR3-1600 to 32gb of DDR5-6000. And from hard drives only to a 990 Pro as my main drive. Words can't describe how massive and upgrade the new PC will be for me lmao
Today i will get 4690K and 2x8gb ddr3 1600. I've paid 50$ for it, and did it becouse i was given free pc to do whatever with it. Hope i will find some cheap gpu and sell it afterwards or leave it for "garage" build.
im so curious, how insane was the upgrade from hdd to ssd alone haha
Im coming from a similar build, and currently upgrading similarly as well. I cannot WAIT to see the difference
@@creamy8715 Insane, lol. Although the DDR5 ram training on boot which takes like 30 seconds definitely defeats the bootup time benefit. In every game I load in basically instantly and download 50GB games from Steam in a couple minutes or so thanks to increased write speed.
@@lawlworthy9805 It's massive. I mean, I've had the new build for 5 months now so I'm used to it and already taking for granted my ability to max out games that my previous build would struggle to run at minimum settings. I notice the speed of the SSDs still though, and the 7700X has still never went beyond 30% usage in games. Sometimes it does go to 100% in my heavily modded Assetto Corsa install with the max number of AI cars, but that's literally the only game I've seen it do that. I'm a bit bummed by the memory training thing making bootup take more like a minute, but I could disable it and boot faster. I just let it train because I want maximum stability and I know DDR5 is finicky.
Won the silicon lottery with my 4770K. Had it boosting to 5GHz from 2014-2021. It was delidded and lapped with a 280mm AIO. 2133MHz ram. Loved it and it still worked when I sold it. Just started getting stuttering in some games.
Starting to stutter in some games is a sign you did not really win the silicon lottery. Clearly you degraded the CPU with time running those clocks with whatever voltage you used
@@DarkAttack14after 7 years any cpu is degraded
Same ! With a golden 3770K, stil typing from it rn, lapped and liquid metal on the die, under a NH-D14 i keep it @4.9Ghz ahah temp are too high on air for 5Ghz as i need 1.33v and its too hot
@@DarkAttack14 degradation would have lead to instability or bluescreen degradation at reasonable voltage (and temp) is négligeable
Please do more retro builds like this Jay!
Considering he'd already sold all the DDR3 RAM that'd work for this mobo, I think we're lucky we even got THIS video :P
Retro? Oh god please don't say that. Retro stuff is supposed to be 80s stuff right? RIGHT?!
@@AarPlays IKR
Retro? LOL
@@phattjohnson I have tons of DDR3 RAM maybe I should sell it ?
I ran a 4th Gen system with a i7 4790k until about 2 years ago when the CPU finally gave up at the height of cost spikes mid COVID. Getting into something modern at that time was extremely painful and expensive.
Sorry to hear your cpu died. I have a similar i5 3570k in one of my older machines and it still runs very strong today. I have better machines now though but I still use that one for many tasks.
Feel ya...my 1080 died june 22...
@@Zero254 I still use my i7 4770k as a home server with all 3/4 hdd filled so far.
I was running a i7-4790+GTX980+32GB up until last year when it decided to die on me. I'd still be using it now if it was still working.
lol i ran a xeon 1246 until last week. 4 gen was great
I had a 4790K overclocked to 4,8 GHz. Combined with a GTX 970 @ 1,4 GHz running shunt resistor and BIOS mod. My first custom water cooled system, it stays in my heart.
16 dollars for ram that's a steal🤣🤣
I have a socket LGA1366 - i7-920 rig still running! Still does all the things! 8 threads strong.
Same here!
Try putting a Xeon X5670 or better in it. You won't be disappointed.
I've got a 920 with 22gb ram. Looking to update the gpu (gt 220) to something u can invest in (3070 aurous master for around £300) but don't know if it will run. What gpu did you go for?
I'm so glad to see so many people still using the 4790k and loving it, like me. I recently upgraded my graphics card from a GTX 960 (when I bought the system) to an RX 6650 XT and I'm gonna keep going till it dies. What good boy my PC is PS: Thanks for the video Jay. It really hit the spot.
Still have my 4790k with a 1060 6 GB. Will change in 2025 when Windows 10 support ends
I found a 4790k In an auction all in one pc , I switched it out for 4460 and sold it for $300 and put the 4790k in my server with 16gb ram, if I put a card in there it would probably be a great games machine .
you don't need to upgrade until games in 1080p & 900p starts hitting below 30 fps, that's why they always release unoptimised titles on release so they sell their newer products
Actually i've recently upgraded my i5-4570s/1050ti/8gb ram to i7-4790k, added another 8gb and 3060- all that in less than 360usd- that was fine deal for another years. ;)
I'm still gaming on my 4790k @ 4.6Ghz, GTX1080 with 32GB of Corsair dominator 🤣🤣🤣 (Timespy score 7122, just did it) On a 1440p G5 monitor 32" i'm still gaming at high settings without any real loss. Does run a bit warm though.
In 2016 I built my first PC with an i5-4690k, a GTX 970, and a Gigabyte Ultra Durable board. To this day, I've never had such a consistently reliable build as that first one, even though I've spent so much on high end specs. I miss it.
I had the same build with black friday 2015 sales on an Asus Z-97 board, MSI 970 and it lasted until I got denied Win 11 and sometime in 18 or 19 swapping for larger faster ssd's
i just upgraded my MoBo and CPU to Z170 and i7-6700k, rest is still the same :D
Same dude, nothing has been as reliable as my 4790k and 980Ti were.
Exact same combo here, upgraded to a ryzen 2600 and got a way smoother experience, those 4c/4t were starting to show their age kinda fast. Though it always performed amazingly for what it was
I'm also on a 4690k and a gigabyte windforce 3x 970
I used arctic mx-4, never changed out, on a AMD FX-6300 Vishera. Currently runs at 75F. I keep it because it has an onboard AMD clock with more than double the precision of the mobo clock, so it's good for timing precision when programming. You have to access that clock though.
It's kind of incredible how 10+ year old hardware can keep up today in a way that 10+ year old hardware couldn't keep up in 2013. Kinda shows how deep we are getting into diminishing returns with current tech. That said, how long could Haswell be applicable for home server/NAS/Media center usage? When I finally move on from the 4790k in my gaming rig, I can't see any reason why it couldn't last another 10+ years in that kind of application.
I usually skip sponsor spots but your ifix it spot is so good. I hope they appreciate what you did there
"just kidding yes you caaaaaaaan"
I don't usually skip them but the ifixit spot annoys me. 🤷♂️
@@christophermullins7163 WITH IFIX IT
Still running an OC i5-2500K, which to this day is 11 years old. It runs really smooth and has never failed me. Looking to buy a new system later this year, but I'm going to be keeping my i5-2500K 🙂
Yeah, that was an incredible chip, and it overclocked well.... I can imagine it still runs most modern games just fine - it's crazy really, an 11 year old mid range GPU would not run anything now.
just keep the current system as a backup in case somerthing goes wrong with the newer one
Still running Q9650, that was only changed 2 years ago from Q6600.
Yep I have one still running to this day, paired with a 1080,
Still rockin my i5-2500k in same pc i built in 2012 but now with 1080ti.. im still happy with my build and plays anything i want to play but i have been getting a very serious itch to build my next rig.
I was using a 3570k up until a few years ago. My daughter still uses it in her own system and it still surprises me how great it is.
I actually find interesting these chips still can deliver after all these years. I had a very old i7 920@ 3.2 and the beast still delivered in some areas when I replaced him by a Zen plataform in 2019. Computers today are so powerful that even old rigs like these can shine depending of your work.
i7 920 is a fairly weak chip compared to the $20 xeons you can add in. The 6 core 12 thread xeons are trice as strong out of the box. Over clock and you couple with a 1070-1080
I was running a 4790k until late 2021. I put that system back together earlier this year and it is still a very impressive little machine. I have a GTX1070 in it right now VS my original 1080 and even then, it's still a very comfortable VR system.
I got to early 2020, sadly it died. but such a great CPU with my 980ti
Literally what i have right now xd In the process of upgrading though, finally i'll be able to play games with high settings and high fps
My 4790k @ 4.8ghz is still good enough for plenty of competitive games. I'm sure these kids would be shocked that they got owned by a 10 year old PC. On the other side of this conversation is a few ppl that will argue with you to no end that you can't game on anything less than a 10900k and 3070. There are literally 10k games that were made back when games were good and effort went into the game instead of just maximizing graphics. It's the most delusional "gamers"(pixel art enthusiasts) are the ones with 4090s apparently. It's sad these people think they're doing something by running 4k with RT lmao win a competitive match.. then you're actually gaming.
@@christophermullins7163 Everyone has their own idea of "gaming", also playing new titles with the same old CPU that we both have just doesnt work , which is expected.
@@rml4474actually it does work
3770K and 4770K were beasts, I had a machine with a 3770K in it that I didn't upgrade for like 6-7 years, not because I didn't want to, but because there was no value in doing it, as the machine still ran comparibly to much newer hardware.
I'm still using my old 377k to write my stories on and to run my 3d printers from
I just replaced my i7-3770(non K) by a 5700X last year. Twice faster, but that is a ten years difference....
I had a 3770k myself for a couple of years, without a doubt a beast especially since it could overclock like a mofo (got it to 4.9ghz semi stable on air cooling. Only prime 95 could get it to act up but that was more due to the fact that the cooler couldn't handle those clock speeds pinned to the max.) Could then and still can handle almost anything you throw at it. I gave that pc to my buddy and he had it paired with a 1050 ti and can play most games 60fps or more at 1080p on at least high settings no problem.
I'm still using my 3770k for gaming. I just upgraded to a 3080 recently because my one SLI graphic card waterblocked leaked onto the bottom graphics card
I'm still running my 3770k too, OC'd to 4.2, but have been shopping for an upgrade lately. After 11 years I figure it's time.
I love old systems like this. I have an HP that has an i7 3820 and a liquid cooler from the factory running 32gb of ddr3 in quad channel. Still a good ol beast. I have an old x99 board waiting on a 6950x, just bought an i7-2630qm for my old laptop since its still socketed and also just refurbished a machine with a 3770 that i bought for $45
Thank you for the pleasure to watch this 🙏
I'm glad you mentioned doing the 780Ti vs. modern "budget" cards. The newer stuff supports full DX11 as well as DX12 which makes a huge difference but the difference in overall performance is really interesting to see with how far things have come.
My 980ti , with a 4690k is still alive and well and plays most games quite well including modern titles, I had to replace the case once and the ram once in the past. The beauty about game development these days is that they target as many systems as possible. Anyway great vid. Definitely want to see the vs battle.
I am using a 4770 (Xeon E3 1231v3) and a 1060 6gb. It is starting to show it's age but it has been a fantastic system. Never seemed to let me down.
980 crew in the house!
I'm running a 970 still. Upgraded my cpu to a 5600x from an 8600k recently.
How do you wear out a case??
@@MrBlueBrewer Violently.
I've been using 2700 with the stock cooler for 10+ years. Still rocks.
I had 2 of the same motherboard and CPU. (1 for me, one for my wife) Used them for a long time. Passed them down to my brother in law and sister in law a few years ago when I decided to upgrade. They are still running them. Pretty sure they were the systems we've used the longest before upgrading. Great systems. I started with an R9 290 as the video card, later upgraded to a 1080.Ti.
I have recently upgraded all the computers at my work to 1155 socket machines. This stuff isn't old at all compared to what's still being used in a lot of places out there.
do you work in a third world country? thats insane, i do server work and if we saw that we would bully the owner
@@AntisnakeYT If you would bully the owner for this then i am happy i live in a 2nd world country xD There is no need to throw money away if you know how to optimize things. I have an entire lab here and the most recent thing is a server based on 1150 and for all tasks is just overkill, most E8500 (Q9400 at worst) will handle almost everything for me... For 30 R$... Btw what kind of server work are you doing that needs more than 1155? Are you using Windows Server just to WSL or something? Geez... I work with entire companies here with just 1 DELL Lga 1155 with Proxmox and everything and there is always resources to spare.
@@AntisnakeYT Two of my old machines and a bunch of cheap Dell Optiplex's, all 1155. Perfectly fine for office / CAD work. If the day ever comes that you'll need more than an 2600k to look at a fucking spreadsheet or STEP file then I'll quit messing with computers forever. And the 4790K machine IS in fact running windows server 2022 and I have never seen the CPU utilisation ever go above 18%.
@@see-sharp Nice to see someone else who understands how things work in the real world.
@@see-sharp Eu ia falar que nois somos mestres da gambiarra mas isso nem é gambiarra, só os gringos que são consumerista pra crlh kkkkkk
Those benchmark scores highlight what made me move to Ryzen with Zen+. I had a 4790K that with an OC was on par with a stock 7700K. I needed more than 4 cores and Intel barely moved the needle in overall performance with 7th Gen. To have had the option of going from a R7 2700 to a 5950X or even the 5800X3D on the same board is simply amazing.
Up to last week I was still rocking this 4770k, 1866 DDR3 and a GTX1070. Sadly it conked out so I upgraded to a 12700k with DDR5 6400 (and the same GTX1070). I wasn't planning on the upgrade because it was still up to par with current systems and reasonable for gaming.
That idea for a video at the end is awesome!
I really love these types of "what if" videos because you never know what to expect and you learn new ways to optimize and troubleshoot things, more of this please!!
Few days ago, I tested AGP version of HD 4650 together with Pentium III CPU, that's even better "what if" 😀
10:54 When you make a usb recovery media with Rufus, it allows you to check an option that disables the TPM and Secure boot requirement on w11 which is what the mobo probably doesn't have here
Good to know, thanks!
I did that exact thing with Rufus to get an A10-7800 to run Server 2022.
They probably used the windows tool to create the installation media
I honestly can relate to this video I built an i7 930 with SLI GTX 280s rig new right when the i7 came out the 280s were "donated" by a buddy who was upgrading to Sli 480s. I mid life upgraded to sli GTX 680 and again in 2018 to a single 2080 trying to buy time to get into the new Amd stuff. In 2019 I built an Amd 3950x moved the 2080 over and was hoping to upgrade to the 40series but then COVID happened so the 2080 has just been living in that . Anyway what surprised me was how long that i7 930 has held up it's constantly on running a home video server to this day and is still happy
i must say all of your videos are very informative but the best part is always the the start, i always end up watching it no matter how many videos i watch! XD
Fun to see this ! here, my 4770K has been running flawlessly for nearly 10 years, paired with a 780 Ti Classified.
My 780ti died but i replaced it with a 3080.
I find this to be super interesting! I actually got into PC building around the time the 4770k was a thing and the GTX 980s and 970s were coming out, so seeing how those systems perform by today's standards is weirdly a refreshing blast from the past!
I built a pc before but got into high end with 4790k and 780ti in sli
Seeing where old hardware stands in benchmarks is always interesting. Definitely in support of more content like this
I7 7700k here- Be proud, and keep it old school!
I had almost this build exactly about 6 years ago (4790k, 1080ti) It was gold and I actually upgraded the cpu in 10th gen and kept using the 1080ti until a few months ago when I was able to get a 4090 and now as of a few days ago a 14900k.
This video was quite a trip down memory lane. I first started watching this channel when the 4790k was king and I was looking into building a PC for the first time. By the time I had decided to really do it, the 6000 series had launched and I ended up with a 6700k and a 980ti. I'm still rocking the same system now (albeit with a 1080ti FTW3). I has started to show it's age in some ways, but it's still able to do everything I need it to do (I don't play high end games, really). If prices weren't so outrageous these days, I might have updated some parts of this system by now, but as long as prices are as they are, I'm gonna hold on to this baby until it's dead!
Skylake just works. I've got an i3-7100 running in my home server and it just has everything. DDR4, M.2, PCIe 3, all modern instruction sets and features. Say what you want about their low core counts, when it comes to features it is aging absolutely gracefully.
@@subrezon indeed, it's a shame Windows 11 doesn't support it. I gifted my sister a Skylake system with what I think is an RX 5600 GPU. It runs her sims games perfectly fine and helped me clean house a bit and not create ewaste from perfectly good hardware. If it supported Win11 officially she could've been set for 5-7 years with what she does on a computer. Instead it's just 2 years left until they kill Win10. Kind of a shame really.
Brah, I am still on that 4790k. I want to upgrade, but prices are crazy. I can afford the latest and greatest. I can't bring myself to buy because my old rig is still playing everything. 4790k 64GB RAM 2080
Yeah I started watching back then too. It was a trip down memory lane. Makes me really realize how long ago that was. I’m still on first gen Ryzen. Ryzen 5 1600x. I was excited to see AMD really biting back again, and I needed an upgrade from the FX-8350 that was in my system, that my girlfriend now uses. Over the last few months, its just finally starting to become a big problem for her, and even my first gen Ryzen 5 is starting to show its age.
@@subrezon Also running skylake, 7980xe, I've just turned it into a compute server running a bunch of VMs now, its running 24/7 zero issues overclocked to 4.4ghz. I had a 6600k before it which I was able to overclock to 4.8ghz easily, no delid, on only a 240mm aio.
I've been running my i7-4770k with a GTX 970 until last month when I built a completely new one. For the price I paid back then, it was well worth it! And it is still being used today.
Had the exact same specs and also upgraded within the last month. I'll be happy if this new build lasts even half the time the 4770 + 970 did.
I’ve got the same setup downstairs right now.
My 4770k build had a motherboard failure just last month so forced upgrade to a intel 12700kf, but still runing the gtx1070 atm from that build, was solid for so long!
I also upgraded last month, from an i5-4690 with GTX 970 to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D with RX 6700XT. I didn't REALLY need to upgrade yet, my old setup was still perfectly usable to be honest.
Ha, same. Bought a 3060 to replace the 970 first, then ended up getting a Steam Deck and I am now mainly using that. My i7-4770k / 970 served me well.
I bought a used i7 4770k and a Z97 mobo 2 weeks ago from ebay to replace the FX 5300 I was using. I delided it yesterday and replaced the lid with a copper one over liquid metal. It's still very powerfull, playing most games at 4k with a 1070.
I bought my 4770 in 2013 and had in my main pc until late 2021 (its now been relegated to media/living room pc and still going just fine and i made the jump to a 5900x platform), there just wasn't a need to upgrade before then, none of the subsequent generations until maybe 9th/10th gen really offered a boost in performance that made it worth the outlay for a new motherboard, ram and cpu. I honestly think its worth getting as high end a chip in a generation as you can afford, the i5s of the haswell gen became obsolete far sooner than the i7s so i was able to push my upgrade out for a couple more years. I generally get 3 graphics card upgrades to 1 cpu upgrade personally. If i'm spending $1000+ on a new setup I want to see some serious benefit from it, I don't understand the mentality behind jumping to a new platform every 3 years for a 20-30% improvement unless you're someone like Jay who makes a living knowing how new tech is performing/conveying that information to his viewers.
My i7-2600k is still going strong. Way past my expectations. I never expected it to hold on this well. Amazing. I want to upgrade before something fails but the last 11-13th gens haven't felt as good as a buy as this did then. So I keep waiting
I know the feeling, 3770K still doin things with no problems. But real talk the 12 and 13s with that freaky E/P core thing are snapppppy.
I still have a 4790K, and my workstation is a 5800x3d i just built.. Night and day difference. I was still happy with my Devils Canyon system and felt it would last a while yet, but now that I have something else to compare, the difference really is quite shocking.
I was pretty surprised when i moved from my i7-2600k @ 4.5Ghz to a R5 3600 @ stock with how much snappier everything was. My 2600k still did everything i needed at the time, some Photoshop, eSports titles, web browsing. but it was growing unstable from a decade of use and it felt like CPU's were finally fast enough to justify a new build. Now i have a 5950x because i do some silly CPU intensive work (curse you Unreal Engine, Houdini, and Substance Designer). but for everything else its kinda unnoticeable from my 3600. though its fun my AM4 system could go from 6 cores to 16 cores with a BIOS update and a trip to Microcenter.
You’re capping If you think an upgrade isn’t worth it. If you can afford it you’re long overdue imho.
@@cavemandan543210 True that. There are some pretty affordable options out now finally. Even the 13100 is going to run rings around anything a 2600k will do. And it will feel reactive and immediate. Even on a fairly inexpensive mainboard.
Got the top of the line equipment in 2014 and have only upgraded the video card twice. Even if I went back to the nvidia 980. It'd still crush 50 percent of the games on the market and do well on 75 percent of them. The computer upgrades from 2004 to 2014 were WAY more significant than 2014 to now.
and ppl say Moore's law is alive. it's literally stagnant for last couple gens. Moore's law includes the costs of silicon but a lot of ppl forget that. shit is expensive today
Are you me? I did the exact same once I got my first "big boy" paycheck and backpay out of college. In the past ~16months I upgraded everything except the gpu because the whole covid fiasco and not being able to find any 30 series-then the 40 series dropped and the prices are still ridiculous. My 980 is still very satisfactory to game on. Cyberpunk, warhammer 3, etc all run perfectly fine.
That's what I did in 2014. I had the 4690X used that system for 5 years. Only upgraded the video card because mine died. Then finally upgraded the system because either the cpu or mobo hated the RTX 2060.
i was having this debate in pcmr the other day. people dont realise its been a real golden age for pc gaming as titles and hardware have just dripped in gains. next gen consoles should really step up gaming gains, just look at what ue5 can do. i cant wait to see what games are going to be like by the end of this gen. i just hope hardware prices dont ramp up at the rate they have been :|
Upgraded from my i5-3570k a year ago. And from my 970gtx 2 months ago
I got DDR2 for my old Dell XPS720 from Amazon. Yes, my 2007 pc with XP Pro still works. Some of the USB outlets don't work but I still have enough of them left to do what's needed.
I recently just replaced my 4770k after around 7 years. Absolutely wonderful cpu with very good overclocking potential. I did have to delid and liquid metal it to keep temps low enough to run at 4.4ghz but man the effort was worth to use it as long as I did. It will be living it's second life as a decently powerful media PC.
My NAS server is my very old AMD FX-8350 powered by a ZFS pool, and my father is using my old 7700k. Have fun with your old stuff :D
Thank God the days of needing a new mobo every new CPU are gone. We truly take the CPU market for granted these days. Now we just need the GPU market to do the same thing.
4770k was my first build. Glad to see youtubers still use this as a benchmark for "can it handle it" videos!
Same, built it with my dad and I still use it to this day. I still don’t have a reason to upgrade it lol
Thanks for this. I'm running a 4770k right now with a 1060, and it's good to know that if I were to spring for a better GPU I could actually see benefit from it. Honestly though I have no problems with how the CPU performs
My sons old system was this spec and did really well, the 1060 was the 6gb version with 16gb of DDR3 it just works really well, we then upgraded to a 1070 and made a lot of difference in game fps.
I ran a 4670k until about a year ago. It maxed out with an 8 gig RX590 about a GTX 1660 equivalent.
4770k here as my main machine, Radeon RX 480, 16gb Radeon DDR3 1866 CAS 9. I haven't been able to afford to get a new computer for a while, and probably looking at another 3 years until I am able to. My MSI board has an M.2 slot, unfortunately it is a little older than the one in this video, so it is SATA only. My 1tb SSD is feeling kind of cramped, but I've got lots of storage on my D: and E: drives. 6tb of mirrored rust for my D:. 2tb of mirrored rust for my E:. BTW, Windows 11 Is Intel 8th gen and higher (Auguest 2017). Though select 7th gen work too.
@@rs2klee that's still my system I only play racing Sims so works for me. Still getting 100fps maxed out on iracing
I just sold my old PC that had this exact same setup!! I loved that 4770k. Honestly it ran super cool in my PC.
Currently running intel 7700k 4.9gz, runs all games. 1% lows are terrible, making some games feel unplayable at 60 fps. Love these types of videos.
i had the i-7 4770k until 3 years ago, the pc it was in it is still running and getting buy. I never regretted buying this beast. paired it with 16 GBs of ram and upgraded my gpu once to a 1060TI :)
My 4790k and GTX 970 was the first system I ever built by myself. I got 4.9 GHz on water. I loved that machine.
I had an i5 4690k back in the day It seriously is hard to believe its been nearly 10 years
Mine is still going strong (ish), paired with a RX580 and 16gb of RAM
Curious how my old 4770k would hold up today. Too bad my PC was ruined by a flood.
Heheh, same... back in the day... totally don't still use it... it's definitely not currently registering the inputs from my keyboard to make this comment at this very moment...
@@JoviaI1 Oof, that's sad, man. Hope your PC was the worst of the damage. The 4690k is holding well, all considered. Running at 3.8ghz, good fps on RDR2, Hogwarts Legacy, CP2077... not perfect by any means, but can't expect much more lol
I'm on a 4690k OC'ed to 4.3ghz all core with a Gtx 980 and 16gb of 1866mhz cl9 ddr3 ram. I can still play Escape from Tarkov on this lol. Built this thing back in like 2014
I had a 4790k about 5 or 6 years ago and that was a beast of a processor. I managed to grab a cheap $150 pc on facebook marketplace that had the 4790k in it. The only thing I had to add to the pc was a decent gpu because it came with a 750ti, so I bought a 1070 and it was a really good pc for less than $600 all in.
It's crazy how big of an improvement the 4790k was over 4770k. I'm running my 4790k clocked at 4.7 GHz with a 130W max TDP CPU cooler at 70-75 degrees C in games and 90 degrees in Cinebench, and it's not even delidded. Great video! P.S. I'm getting around 5500 points in C23 at 4.7 GHz btw.
Even bigger difference would be buying current gen i3 :)
@@xTurtleOW I know dude, that ducked with my mind when i saw how good i3 is now
I'm still rocking a Core I7 4790k with a gtx 1080 ti. I game at 4K. I will buy a Rtx 4080 and i'll be set. I will finally upgrade my cpu at 2026 or 2027. 4790k is still enough for 4K gaming. It's an amazing cpu really. I will keep using 4790k for 3 or 4 years more. And when i finally upgrade my system my Core I7 4790k will be 12 or 13 years old. Talk about efficiency and longevity. Core I7 4790k really is an amazing cpu.
@@lillee4207 The power of generational uplift!
@@matasa7463 it's crazy how companies exponentially increased transistors in such a small die, and made them more efficient. It makes me wonder if we'll get to a process than is even smaller than nanometers, or rather when. My dad told me years ago about how he witnessed megabytes turn into gigabytes, and he found it insane, and now we're witnessing stuff become even better, in just a few years. Kind of turned into a rant, but every year or two I look into computer components or market. It blows me away, and I wonder when my already aged, only 8 year old hardware will become obsolete. 4c4t is holding on mostly though
I just replaced my i4770 and 1070ti a week ago. It still played most games. Going to a 7700x and 4090 I am surprised how small the day to day difference it makes. Sure, my new rig is way more powerful but can recommend that if you're cash strapped, don't overlook older stuff.
You had a great combo. I upgraded from an i5 4690k & GTX 1070 to an i7 10700k + 6800XT last year. That old setup lasted nearly 6 years for me and I agree you can get so much out of that generation of CPUs and GPUs.
This! I went to a top end board and a 10700K/3080ti from a 4770K and 1080ti and the difference in anything other than renders is negatable. Their enthusiasm and laughter here in its 'failure' disappoints me. I don't really watch Jay anymore sadly and he's a guy of my era. So it's a bit sad. I was playing cyberpunk perfectly at 1440p with a 4770K and 1080ti. Odd.
I'm in the process of replacing my 4770 and GTX780 right now, they've run virtually everything on high or ultra up until DX12 Feature 12 became required for most AAA games
@@ragnorinki Unless you just want an excuse to get a newer system you should upgrade you gpu first as that's what is holding you back from pretty much playing any game you want. CPU wise sure you might get better fps on a newer gen but your current cpu can still deliver a perfectly enjoyable experience in most games.
@@DelfinGames oh I’m building a whole new computer, all new parts. But I appreciate the advice. The plan for the old computer is to replace the gpu with a 1080ti or 2080ti that a friend has lying around, replace a jank drive I have, and then give it to my sibling or partner.
6700K and a GTX970, rock solid!
I just got this i7 used 4 days ago for $50 and installed it today. It was a massive improvement for me from an i5-2400, too bad though I cannot overclock it in a B85 mainboard. It's a really good pair for a GTX 1660 Ti.
This has been one of the most enjoyable videos to watch from you recently Jay. I feel like there was so much love in this generation of hardware. I loved my z97 Sabertooth back when TUF motherboards were actually really cool. Mushkin still makes 2400 MHz Ram to this day
Learning how to overclock my 4690k back then was how I first discovered this channel, I dont even think you were at 100k at that time yet. Crazy too think how much this channel has grown
I agree on the SSD, give the old system the best quality modern drive you can, so it gives the old rig the best chance to shine. I upgraded family friends' alienware M18x to it's first ssd... What was a laggy mess of a laptop, is now an exceptionally good rig for their home video editing.
If it's too old, though, it won't support NVME at all. And that's a LOT of 10 year old systems. SSD via SATA interface still helps SOME Though.
I had a 4790k with a 7950 for a long time, finally bought a 2070 super when the 30 series came out. I'd still be running that system if the GPU hadn't fallen out of the x16 slot and fried the mainboard. The most noticeable upgrade going to 5800x/x570 was the extra PCIe lanes for nvme drives and tons of USB 3 ports. And more cores for running vms, I used to run vms on my home server and remote in, now I just run them on the desktop.
Love this content, I feel it fills a missing segment for consumers like myself who bought relatively highend system and keep it for a long time. It also nicely illustrates that for gaming GPU is always going to be more important, but that even very old cpu's can still be practical, even if you might lose a bit of performance when paired with too high of a GPU.
Yeah, you'll just get extra performance when you do upgrade, assuming you reuse that GPU for a while. Using a pc for such a long time is actually a W
god i love older motherboards. and not just because the prices were better, but so was the styling (or at least variety even if it wasnt to your taste)
yeah, dunno a Big Fing heatpipe on a high end board looks absolutely cool
Getting a motherboard in white.
Love those explosions. 😂😂
Had the 4790k and that CPU was a beast. Did me well for years.
did you delid it and make it run cooler?
The first computer I built was a 4820k on the Intel 2011 socket with a 780oc which for the time was a BEAST and this served me well for many many years. Thank you for the nostalgia Mr Jay ❤
I was using a 10 year old system last year when I built a new one. The only reason I built the new one was that I was running into weird hardware failures and it was no longer economical to repair. It still performed reasonably well with my GTX 1080 GPU (upgraded after as you mention) so I find it quite funny that you basically tested the build I was using last year.
4690k pair wih Asus GTX 1070 still awesome for me
I am using a 15 Year old system right now😂😅 (P43; Core 2 Quad Q9450; Radeon HD 6850)
I imagine most problems can be traced to caps.
last year i had a i7 4790s paired with 16 gb ram and a 1060, now i have anew system but my old one passed down to my sister is still a great pc for gaming and videos, and it has just failed the psu, after like 13 years, great value for sure.
7700k and gtx 1080 ti. I just upgraded to a 7900xtx and 7950x3d. I'm still not sure it was worth it..
I am running an i7-4790K right now in my one work PC and it runs fine. It doesn't really go over 70 deg C w/ an AIO, 2 x 140 cooler. I know it doesn't have the processing power of newer parts but it works fine for general workstation stuff I also have a GTX970 in it, which was what I used in it at the time I originally bought it (and before I repurposed)
The late 80’s and throughout the 90’s commercial break was great.
I replaced my 4770k only a month ago with a Ryzen 7700X. Can't believe how long that CPU lasted me. Lived through 3 GPUs (7970, RX580, 5700XT). Crazy value.
I got a rig with a 4770 for free, and I still use it. It basically doesn't bottleneck my 6700xt.
How was your experience with 4770k and 5700xt, I currently have 4790 and want to buy 5700xt, how big is the bottleneck in games at 1080p?
@@_Lassic_ LMAO, this video clearly shows that you are in fact bottlenecking your 6700 XT.
@@zarrar26 well. I actually play at 1440p. 9 times out of 10 I'm getting 50-60 fps in Elden Ring, and so far that's the only thing I've played with my new 6700xt. So I can't say too much, but 90% of the time I'm getting 50-60 fps. The CPU is also not running harder than 50%, 60c.
@@rustler08 I can still hit 60fps at 1440p in Elden Ring...
Thanks Jay, I'm running the same CPU and MB rig for the last 10 years and its great to see and experts take.
The worst part about having an older cpu was the frame drops / stutters under heavy gaming load and like having discord open.
There is an entire industry building $20 motherboards for lga 1155, 1155 and 1366 and sold on AliExpress. Intel 22 nm chips are still decent for today's games and workloads. I just built one because it was so cheap -- and I was shocked how well it runs.
Yeah. I recently built a dedicated gaming machine by taking a hand-me-down HP prebuilt from over a decade ago and replacing the PSU, HDD, and GPU with things I had gathering dust in the closet (Radeon HD 5870 in the GPU case), and restoring it to the Windows 7 it came with to lighten it up (firewalled off from the 'net), and, aside from the possibility of struggling on PS2 emulation, it plays something like 99% of the games I care about beautifully. Sure, part of that is that the gaming industry doesn't really have much interest in putting the genres I want to play on DRM-free platforms anymore, but still.
I have a huananzhi X99 mobo, which is a tad bit bigger than mini ITX and holy hell it runs flawlessly with my 12 core E5 2667v2, combined it with 32GB of ECC RAM, and it can even install Linux! Now I have an Lenovo Legion Slim 5i with 13900H and 4070 which left everything behind the dust
I built an X58 rig back in 2010... Still have the mb, which now won't even post to the bios. I'd thrown a 6 core Xeon s5670 in it Had it clocked to about 4 Ghz. Got a better mb, w/ USB 3 and a couple SATA 6 ports. Threw in a $30 (cheaper now) X5680 and have it clocked to 4.65 Ghz, w/ 2 gb of ram. Also got an x5690, but the 5680 seemed a bit better. It's just for fun, as after upgrading from a 2017 Skylake build, I now have three Ryzen builds, w/ RTX 3000 series GPU's. 3700x, 5800x and 5950x. They rock. When the next AMD rigs come out, I might upgrade, as it is nice to have the latest and greatest..
Lol ... This really old pc build would be a decent upgrade for me still. Currently running a I7 920 with a GTX960 with 1066mhz DDR3. Saving for an upgrade but still nice to see how much of an upgrade it is going to be when it finally happens. Great vid guys! Keep it up and thank you for all your hard work!
I upgraded my i7 920 to Xeon W3680 and eventually replaced it with Ryzen 5 1600, and it beat the W3680 with a huge OC. I'd recommend an AM4 based system, even the lowest end will run circles.
You know you can use 1600Mhz ones at their rated speed with these, right? But a used Ryzen is already cheap too. I Still use my i7-3700K....
@@kurtwinter4422 Ryzen 3600 would be a huge upgrade for you and they're cheap as at the moment, even the 5600 is pretty cheap right now.
It's' 4 cores/8 threads, a modern mid range cpu would have 3-4 times the single core speed but the real advantage comes in having the possibility of buying a lot more cores.
This was fun! Thanks, for going back to some Haswell stuff! Definitely love this type of work. Keep it up Jay and crew!
I still run a 7700k in a living room game / HTPC setup with a 3070 GPU.. temps are low so doesn't saturate my living room. 6320 R23 score @ 4.8ghz. Plays Cyberpunk, Diablo 4, Destiny 2, etc with no issues
15:51 And that is also why 4th gen was the go-to and nobody upgraded till 8th gen came along, because up to the 7700k, you could get the same performance with just an overclock
I was using a Sandy Bridge i5, the lower end one, with an RX 580 8GB after my house burned down at the end of 2020. Tons of games worked fine at 1080p60 mixed settings for sure. I used the same GPU and an FX 6300 or something to build my cousin a gaming PC just a few weeks ago. Its working great for him! Especially for low res eSports type stuff.
"and an FX 6300 or something" I HOPE you just had that laying around and needed the PC to be as cheap as any way possible cause those CPUs are just bad.
The 4770K was the CPU I bought when I built my first iteration of my PC back in 2014, was a great CPU for the 4 years I had it for. I still have it, the cooler, RAM, Motherboard, GPU, and the case from that first build. This video kind of makes me want to recreate it and do some comparisons to my current PC.
From my experience on an a 5620k and x99-ud3, i also had a nvme m.2 slot but it ran at Gen 2x2 speeds only way i got Gen 3x4 speeds was to use a NVME to PCIe adapter good thing it didnt need much set up it booted fine
My favorite thing about the AM4 slot is that I got my current computer ~6 years ago with a 2200G and I was able to keep using the same Mobo all this time, latest upgrade was a 5900x and 4060-Ti just a few weeks ago. One painless BIOS update later and it was good to go (Althoug, I do really wish I had remembered to do that before installing the CPU rather than having to put the old one back in, then put the new one back in a second time after updating the BIOS)
I did a platform upgrade for my TrueNAS system yesterday with a 4th-gen Intel CPU, and it works extremely well for my use case. Older CPUs still have a lot of life left in them!
These are great, this shows more realistic scenarios and the possibility to re-use your old pc. I like these!
Just demoted a comp based around a 4770k to one be my secondary after building a new comp with a 7600x yesterday, i expect the old comp will still be serving me well for years to come as long as nothing breaks.
I had an E6700 Core 2 Duo build from about 2007 to late 2010s. Upgraded to a 4770k and motherboard I got for free. Ran that system for awhile then finally built a whole new system. The Core 2 worked just fine for a very long time, with only upgrading graphics cards a few times and adding an SSD. The 4770k worked great as well, I just wanted an upgrade after all that time. I suppose my point is, unless you are doing HEAVY gaming , new AAA games, heavy CPU and GPU loads, you can get away with older hardware for a long time. I ran most games on low settings with those old setups and it was perfectly passable to play most games that I was interested in at the time.
This is awesome content. I would always watch this just for the pure educational value of it. Thank you so much for all this testing!
I for years ran this CPU, starting with a 780 (non ti), upgraded to a 1080 (non ti), before finally pulling the trigger on zen 2 to double my core count and get a slight IPC bump. done some upgrades since then. but good to see the old workhorse still relevant.
You have to delid the 4770k after some years, I bought mine one as a used one back in the times and delidded it after some testing. Temps were going down 15° with liguid metal. Is still working fine in my moms pc 😅.
Got my Wifes rig running the 4770 non K and an r9 390 without issue. I did upgrade Her to an EVO960 500gb NVME even though the AC97 Asus board only goes to Gen 2 Nvme, but Hell it's still 3x's faster than the SSD we had in there. I did grab an old Gtx 970 from a friend so i may throw that in for Her but She really doesn't do much more than work with it so I may hold that for a retro gaming rig. Great video!
I only just recently moved on from the AMD equivalent at the time, an AMD FX-8350 with 32GB of DDR3 and a recently upgraded 3070. It worked fairly well. I was able to play recent games including VR titles such as Half-Life Alyx (Cyberpunk 2077 was playable). I was even able to sort of stream Beat Saber (I was seeing around 0.5% dropped frames in OBS regardless of the title). I upgraded to an AMD Ryzen 9 7900X in November, it's been nice not seeing the 3070 throttled.
Glad you made this upload, I managed to build my first PC with a 4790k before covid, I'm loving it regardless what's out there today. It's an absolute beast 🤘
lol I'm running a 3770k still with a 3080ti. So heavily bottlenecked.
@@davec8153 definitely, most of the parts used for my built were donor because ppl were upgrading. if anything it helps with the lifetime of the card, especially if you eventually upgrade to something that it'll give it a run for its money
Still using my 4570k and it is perfectly fine for my needs. It pulls just 70W on full load and about 15w on idle. Great chip for 10+ years old.
I still have an MSI GE70 Apache gaming laptop with NO upgrades. It runs like a beast. I kid you not, and I have dropped the thing five or six times. All the internal hardware shows no signs of failure. The only thing I have considered doing to it is maybe adding an external SSD upgrade that can perhaps hold the OS on it (so just a small NVMe one) because the internal HDD is in great shape and perfect for data storage. It would need an external GPU mod to play some recent titles (well, yeah, duh) at decent settings, but I can still push that thing to do some crazy productivity work and video rendering, etc. that push that ten-year old i7 to the max and it still does great! No plans to toss this thing anytime soon!
Glad you’re bringing back this kind of content, fun to watch!
Thanks Jay for your great, entertaining and informative work. I've been watching your channel for 4 years now and on all accounts - great, no-nonsense (except when it's a good time to joke around!), to-the-point content. Kudos brother.
Doing something similar to an amd set up from 2012. It is fun to play around with and see.
I still use my brothers 2010 amd phenom II x6 1090T no problem here. I use it for office work and editing still no problem on a windows 10 pro.
This is almost identical to my current build, with the main exception being that my GPU is a 2060 super. Started with a 780, which died, replaced with the 2060, and here I'm stuck because I refuse to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a new system (as I stated in another comment a few days back). A new top(ish) end GPU alone today would cost what I spent on this entire build back in the day.