How to win a debate:keep talking to prevent your opposition from forming arguements
@berankb8 ай бұрын
from the Piers Morgan handbook on 'winning' debates
@nicholasbain28358 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbain2835Muhammed Hijab also does that
@Magst3r18 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbain2835hahahahaha opened the replies to say at least thats what piers does! 😂
@connorhart75978 ай бұрын
More like just let them keep talking til they destroy themselves, seriously she just said shaking hands is equal to worshiping a dictator
@tiffanyroberts64607 ай бұрын
I want to see someone in that situation yell "Should I just leave? Because you can easily have a conversation with yourself without me."
@Mark737 ай бұрын
Do you wear a tie? She asks the man not wearing a tie.
@johannesbrahms95288 ай бұрын
Well apparently not! 😂
@ric70538 ай бұрын
xD
@benwil60488 ай бұрын
I no longer wear ties as it is cultural appropriation.... I am not french so I shouldn't wear one😂
@beyamoth8 ай бұрын
Why stop at the tie? Clothing in general, or gender appropriate attire at the very least ....
@erict.watson24608 ай бұрын
Yes we all love wearing a noose around our neck. Surely a sign of subservience.
@coweatsman8 ай бұрын
"we bow to the position, not the person." Great argument for a position you cannot take without being the right person.
@thomasherzog868 ай бұрын
An no actual reason offered other than, "because we always have."
@RustyWalker8 ай бұрын
@@RustyWalkerita because they are our or supposed to be our leaders
@Nathan-rn7wl8 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-rn7wlSo's my manager but I don't bow to them.
@RustyWalker8 ай бұрын
@@RustyWalker ok? he doesnt run the country
@Nathan-rn7wl8 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-rn7wl Follow the logic where it goes. My example is valid based on the argument provided. P1. Leaders should be bowed to. P2. My manager is a leader. C. Therefore my manager should be bowed to. I don't agree with premise 1 so the conclusion doesn't follow. I act as if the conclusion doesn't follow in my daily life. I don't bow to my manager. Therefore, it follows that the conclusion doesn't follow for any leaders if that's the only reason why people bow to them.
@RustyWalker8 ай бұрын
It’s not a ridiculous tradition, it’s a condescending one.
@SchgurmTewehr8 ай бұрын
Both? Both!
@andresgarciacastro17838 ай бұрын
Nothing is more important than culture and heritage nothing at all most people are willing to at least risk their lives for it if you don't have it you have nothing the royals have no power many obligations and make millions happy as long as they have majority support you'd have to be an evil dictator to remove them
@davidevans32238 ай бұрын
And she had the audacity to compare a handshake to a bow 🤣
@jonjeskie52348 ай бұрын
Not mutually exclusive :)
@pipeline7328 ай бұрын
Being offended by irrelevant sht is much more ridiculous.
@Woodsaras8 ай бұрын
Shaking hands is a gesture of equality, not submission. Tradition is fine, forced subservience to someone by their right of birth is disgusting.
@cosmicacorn8 ай бұрын
Good point that. Some traditions good. Others not so. Thanks.
@tonyschumacher-jones15408 ай бұрын
@tonyschumacher-jones1540 Put it this way, I'm saying that tradition is irrelevant to the point. I only bring up handshakes and compare it to other traditions within context as a response to the woman in the video doing so. I don't think saying "but it's tradition" just wipes away all negativity affiliated with it otherwise. Edit: I assume you meant that comment sarcastically but on the now-noticeable chance that you didn't, sorry lmao
@cosmicacorn8 ай бұрын
The difference is these are rituals that are universally done by the common people and by the rich aristocrats. Praising someone due to their prescribed status is really strange
@tecategpt19596 ай бұрын
Maybe she meant when one party is the first to offer a handshake within etiquette
@filipsichrovsky6 ай бұрын
shaking hands is also a test of basic dexterity and to show you don't have a weapon. That is what i was told anyway when discussing its roots
@mushy4706 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of appeal to tradition
@ClemiHW8 ай бұрын
We fight war's for less of course not everyone supports all traditions but you don't have to all you have to do is respect to millions they are very important
@davidevans32238 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223millions have traditions of hating LGBTQ and women. I will not show an inkling of respect for these people or the traditions they stand for. Same goes for the monarchy. There is no reason to respect such an archaic system that elevates one family above not just other people but in many cases the law itself. How can one stand for people being equal, and still support a monarchy?
@tripweed8 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223 when the queen died millions lost access to incredibly important services and places because it's tradition to shut down those services Respect goes both way, if your tradition impedes on my way of living i'm not going to respect it
@ClemiHW8 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223there's a difference between 'respecting' someone's traditions, and a significant portion of the taxes you pay being used to support it.
@matt69nice8 ай бұрын
@@tripweed you're just full of hate for other's born into a different privalige why don't you swap your life for someone born into Rwanda it's a suppose a far bigger drop but of course to you that must mean even more wrong to many having running water and food is living like a king
@davidevans32238 ай бұрын
well slavery is a tradition and it happened for centuries. That surely justifies it.
@joyeetabd26718 ай бұрын
Millenia actually. Many millenia.
@littlebitofhope14898 ай бұрын
Widespread violence & crime have happened for practically all of history- it must be the ideal. Let us strive to be a wretch upon the Earth & all life! 🤦🏽♀️
@Tyler_Skye778 ай бұрын
I also think it particularly funny that a woman was so invested in appealing to tradition but I don't wanna get into how many traditions would not really make her happy to try to keep, as a woman. Unless she thinks her life is less important than a tie, which to bootlickers I'm never sure if it's clear.
@RenegadeShepard698 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe we should just “run with it”.
@chewygad78998 ай бұрын
Not in the west thanks to the British empire the international slave trader's all over the world have been stopped but outside the Christian world real slaves not modern day slaves there's more than any other time in history. Everyone in the UK is born with different privaliges only the royals comes with duties and the majority support them so it's evil to remove them that's what dictator do
@davidevans32238 ай бұрын
Let me just talk over Alex as he offers reasonable justification for what he said. Can't have that shit! It makes sense, and that terrifies me!
@johannesbrahms95288 ай бұрын
Always. Every single time. Thought I was watching piers Morgan for a second
@kenhammscousin47168 ай бұрын
But it was so uncouth of Alex to be critical of those inbred elitist toffs.
@skateboardingjesus40068 ай бұрын
"Stop it patrick, you're scaring him"
@stinkygoat26868 ай бұрын
@@stinkygoat2686Underrated comment
@Symmetry_Obsessed_Freak4 ай бұрын
Tradition is often the opposite of common sense. It’s what you do despite there being no reason to do it
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
'we kind of run with it and it sort of works'. i have nothing more to add
@jamiew92358 ай бұрын
Amazing right. Hell! I know a lot of folks with that thought process. I just wanna shake em,haha wake up people that’s crazy talk. “That’s just the way it is”type shit, kills me. Glad! I’m not the only one who caught that, sure is reassuring haha😂
@joshjackson6788 ай бұрын
@@joshjackson678Its a good system without we would be worse of
@dennisgoatimer10798 ай бұрын
Typical collectivist idealism, lol.
@obitouchiha64398 ай бұрын
I love that he backpedaled to that without Alex even really responding
@boianko8 ай бұрын
@@obitouchiha6439feels more like the denialism than idealism
@jonjeskie52348 ай бұрын
Never have I seen so many people clutch pearls in unison
@Alex-pk1iy8 ай бұрын
Pearl clutching has got to be one of the most hilarious idioms out there lmao
@ihsahnakerfeldt92803 ай бұрын
"I must of forgotten mine today!" Hitchen Feelings LOL
@Comboman708 ай бұрын
I know I died at that remark 😂😭
@JJBerthumeАй бұрын
I applaud your patience here my goodness they never let you get a word in
@Nitroade248 ай бұрын
Because we dont give jerkoffs like him the time to speak.
@thomasel91716 ай бұрын
So a country needs to look up to someone who's only qualification is the correct sperm and egg happened to meet? 🤔
@thinkbeyond34578 ай бұрын
One would question the word correct. Apart from that spot on.
@noirj67058 ай бұрын
She did a great job keeping this country together fella
@dennisgoatimer10798 ай бұрын
@@dennisgoatimer1079that’s not really the argument though, is it? no one is accusing the queen of having been a bad ruler, but rather questioning the system that made her ruler in the first place
@liamosborne68598 ай бұрын
@@liamosborne6859 The system is perfect fella without it you would have to wait around every single time one of them dies and by the time that happens the tyrannical dictator can't be stopped like Germany in the 30s when President Von Hindenburg died. Plus it's stability in this trying times that many people look up to. Just look at the Christmas Speech during COVID and how that did help people mentally.
@dennisgoatimer10798 ай бұрын
@@dennisgoatimer1079 man you are so condescending with this fella talk
@ZaiDrizzleDrop8 ай бұрын
You probably never imagined you’d end up talking about this subject so much. I love it though
@troys79548 ай бұрын
Why do they even get offended? The woman in the clip is ridiculous
@pallekanin918 ай бұрын
people love being offended, in fact the smaller the brain....
@HarryNicNicholas8 ай бұрын
The woman is offended because if she wasn’t offended then she wouldn’t be able to think of anything else to say.
@design-dwg57858 ай бұрын
I think it was a guy in the clip. I believe it's James Hewitt's lad.
@ROFT8 ай бұрын
@@fleurdanon did they just assume, they invited a random lad? The monarchy is a joke. We have one too in Denmark
@pallekanin918 ай бұрын
The men are offended too.🙄
@jonnawyatt8 ай бұрын
It's like a religion. Don't you dare insult the institute of power! Crazy
@jsmit94848 ай бұрын
Isn't it. These anti monarchists with their refusal to consider themselves lesser than the king by virtue of birth
@harman19578 ай бұрын
well i like to point out that the declaration of human rights and the constitution both over - ride god laws. the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment, we didn't vote for god or a king.
@HarryNicNicholas8 ай бұрын
@@HarryNicNicholasThat's true but not everyone is American, 1st amendment means nothing for me
@TheAxeter8 ай бұрын
Well, isn't the monarch the head of the church of England?
@redwire63158 ай бұрын
@@redwire6315Only because a former wide load royal threw a tantrum and wanted to be able to sleep around unchallenged. Funny how there's a repeating historical theme in these people of tantrum throwing for self gain.
@Paulstrickland018 ай бұрын
Oh yes wearing a tie is same as being told you are subjects of a fellow human who is given devine right to rule over you by virtue of birth
@harman19578 ай бұрын
They’re so brainwashed and they’ll never understand that. The indoctrination begins at birth so it’s really not their fault.
@young_raymond475 ай бұрын
Lmao
@ihsahnakerfeldt92803 ай бұрын
Thee don't rule over you. That's the main crux here. It is largely symbolic. The king has no political power.
@RhetoricalMuse3 ай бұрын
and he's not even wearing a tie 😂😂
@betadecay65032 ай бұрын
Are you referring to Judaic Ideology or British royalty? Lol
@Malik-mw2ry2 ай бұрын
I like how Alex starts his sentence 10 times because they won’t stop interrupting him 😂
@charliekowittmusic8 ай бұрын
“I wasn’t just trying to be funny (although I was trying to do that), but I …” is such a great thing in a discussion like that, very disarming
@Fs3i8 ай бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, what was he alluding to here? (English is not my first language, and I am terribly sorry if I inconvenienced you)
@shahdhussein46528 ай бұрын
@@shahdhussein4652Looking down from heaven (as in: she’s dead, and now looks from the heavens), as well as “looking down on someone (who is socially beneath you).”
@Fs3i8 ай бұрын
@@shahdhussein4652bro already speaking british 🤯
@filipedias72845 ай бұрын
@@filipedias7284Are you sure he isn't British? His apologising for inconvenience potentially caused is spot on, I could swear to the lord above (should one exist, which it doesn't) that he is totally British.
@djinnxx70502 ай бұрын
really? I thought he was implying she was looking up (from hell)
@roberttregidgo6345Ай бұрын
The smug a-holes loudly speaking over Alex only make the royalists look more ridiculous and expidite their doom. Good job!
@alflyle99558 ай бұрын
:p
@AdamBechtol3 ай бұрын
Royalists aren't dumb. We all have birth and genetic privileges, some have more, some have less. Every single person, including Alex, is where he/she is mostly because of the genetic lottery. If it weren't for the lucky crossing over and good genes from parents, they wouldn't be what they are now. Everyone also has non gene related birth privileges. Look at history, the average person has almost never become the leader of a nation. Most often, they are children of rich and powerful people. Monarchy isn't as stupid as Republicans claim, it's just that you guys rarely ever debate with actual Monarchists or Monarchist scholars.
@holyromanemperor4202 ай бұрын
@@holyromanemperor420 The funniest part about your comment is that you seem to be serious. Monarchism is dead, deal with it. Or don't and keep larping as "Holyromanemperor420". You do you
@displayer602321 күн бұрын
that’s pedantic 😂. it’s like they’re too stuffy to even appreciate a well timed joke.
@MacLaw30848 ай бұрын
The same people harp on about how 'the left can't take a joke' and yet here they are
@matt69nice8 ай бұрын
@@fleurdanon poor taste how
@matt69nice8 ай бұрын
@@fleurdanon "She's looking down on all of us" THAT is a joke in poor taste.
@karlschmied62188 ай бұрын
@@karlschmied6218Royalty is in poor taste. Are you being intentionally ironic?
@MacLaw30848 ай бұрын
@@fleurdanon Every can be made fun of, get over yourself.
@MacLaw30848 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Harry talking about figuratively “looking down on us” from heaven? Or am I missing something here?
@manisthemeasure22058 ай бұрын
Its what we learn as children. Heaven is up in thr sky.
@helenamcginty49208 ай бұрын
He was, that was part of the joke
@kuku_rydza8 ай бұрын
@@fleurdanonBut then the would be no point to the yoke... Seems you didnt get the yoke in the first place and now wont admit it..
@matswessling66008 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon Someone in that position has the right to be offended but it does nothing to change the fact that Alex has the more important right to make the joke in the first place. Many people in that position wouldn't like it? So what?
@Hibbleton918 ай бұрын
Harry is a moron. He thinks his mother is a living spirit and he thinks his wife has magic powers.
@chesterdonnelly12128 ай бұрын
Decided a long time ago I’d never bow to another human being. My own personal tradition. 🙏
@karmaoutlaw8 ай бұрын
I'd bow if I was in Japan and the other person was bowing as well as a sign that we are respecting eachother as equals
@nmwinrich898 ай бұрын
I once worked in a place that receivec a royal visit. I bowed out - if I clearly was to get no work done that day, why be there at all? I mean - I didn't even have any warts that needed curing! One of my pathetic co-workers summed up my absence in a way that impressed even me. "But... but... what if people find out?" No slavery worse than the kind we volunteer for. I have hind legs. Even in old age, I reserve the right to stand on them...
@jackwaycombe8 ай бұрын
I bow to nobody No god no master
@spacewizard698 ай бұрын
@@spacewizard69you must be the ultimate sigma 😂
@BobbyB246018 ай бұрын
@@BobbyB24601 hell yeah , humans and puny gods
@spacewizard698 ай бұрын
Alex is way too intelligent to even participate in a debate with such royal fools..
@nikolajkrarup-os9gn8 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that they didn't say "Looking up at us"
@Greg_Rock8 ай бұрын
I feel like Alex is kinda being a shit here. The Monarchy is ridiculous and out dated and fair criticism of it is completely warranted. But he didn't need to go about it this way. When he is intelligent enough to know full well that is not what Harry meant by "looking down on us." He is just being a provacatour.
@allykat58998 ай бұрын
He admits that he's trying to be funny, but it's not like they let him elaborate or that he doesn't have a point. He's saying the dude had a very poor choice of words.
@GiubileiFernando8 ай бұрын
Never let the reasonable person finish a sentence, everyone gang up and talk over him...
@nagranoth_8 ай бұрын
Don’t expect reasonableness from most people. Expect it least of all from people who have been taught that they have some kind of divine right to rule
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
These people... comparing undemocratic institution that rules over people, and still has great power, to "wearing ties", is ridiculous. But for that matter - yes, even wearing a tie is not something that should be enforced, just because it's "a tradition".
@artistbervucci17168 ай бұрын
You're aware the monarchy doesn't actually rule over the population, right? The king or queen no longer has political authority
@tonybaloney84018 ай бұрын
The monarchy doesn't even rule over anyone. They just volunteer at charity events.
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
Well, Its not really enforced, if a majority of a population wants to keep it, isnt it undemocratic to try and Cut it away? Also, it holds no power over you, so Why so against it?
@olliegreen34463 ай бұрын
Ties are stupid and absurd, yes. But not offensive in the way the royal family is
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewtonI would argue that ties are more dangerous and far more upsetting when caught up in a lathe or woodchipper.
@djinnxx70502 ай бұрын
To be fair, most of the time, when people refer to a dead relative looking down on them, they are usually just implying that the person is looking down due to being up in heaven.
@jesseh34658 ай бұрын
She ain't in heaven
@deethwarrior7 ай бұрын
@@deethwarrior I don't really know much about her, so I can't really agree or disagree with you.
@jesseh34657 ай бұрын
Alex knows, he was just being a dick, regardless of how justified his criticism of the monarchy is
@j0kerclash2895 ай бұрын
Still bowing even after death 😂
@crmesson22k8 ай бұрын
"we kinda run with it and it sorta works" okay, but can i question it? Doesnt mean you need to change it, but god forbid i question tradition.
@ricklubbers15268 ай бұрын
Right. Tradition should be respected to a certain degree, but it's not a religion. Questioning Tradition is not a sin. It's not like we wiwloose all cultural values just because someone questions the value of aristocrats in the 21.century.
@carlpanzram70817 ай бұрын
People also "ran with" (some still do) sl@very and it "sorta worked." Just because something is a tradition doesn't mean it's good or should be defended. Appeal to tradition is one of the most well-known and transparent logical fallacies.
@ihsahnakerfeldt92803 ай бұрын
Well done Alex 👏 As a Swiss citizen I can only shake my head 😂 In our founding myth, Wilhelm Tell refused to bow down to the symbol of the tyrant Habsburg, thus starting our century long history of people's democracy 😊🙋♀️
@sonodiventataunalbero55768 ай бұрын
And then refusing to do anything about the Nazis while storing their stolen riches! How glorious!
@Mmoll19908 ай бұрын
Long live the Swiss! Much love from the American West Coast.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
As a Brit this is really upsetting. A panel of educated individuals who still think like Bronze Age sheep herders. Well done Alex, keep fighting for intellectual freedom.
@TheStanDudley7 ай бұрын
The people support the RF as millionaires with their taxes, and they don't even rule over them. They are a tourist attraction, they "work" doing volunteer work. But who gets paid like that to do volunteering and charity work??
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
@@gusgrizzel8397 the most common rebuttal is they bring in tourism and thus, income for the whole country. I have never found this convincing and I still don’t believe it’s true either. Regardless if it was, I don’t think it’s worth it on a moral nor ethical level.
@TheStanDudley6 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudley Agree. Any income they bring in is cancelled by the Brit's paying taxes to support them. Allegedly Charles got 500 millions, but is overall worth 24 billion, when the Queen died. They're just rich people. They don't rule over anyone.
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudleyBut Why be so against it? Its not harming anyone, But to be fair, the UK has a greater deal of space between Rich and poor, so money is a huge thing. But the monarchy holds no real power, and stands as a thing for people to unify over. I dont get Why people want a boring republic where the head of State changes every 4 or 8’th year, just to get someone like Boris in who seemed like a Raving lunatic.
@olliegreen34463 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudleyas a tourist, I’d actively avoid anything to do with the royal family. Theater in London was fantastic though!
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the fallacy of appeal to tradition. You couldn’t watch a finer demonstration. 😂
@jazzman25168 ай бұрын
They literally don't even think, they just voice whatever comes to mind... The whole time Alex is just trying to get a word in between their babbling.
@WhoThisMonkey8 ай бұрын
The traditions they bring up aren't comparable in the slightest. We're mixing turtles, chameleons and crocodiles under the premise they're all reptiles.
@_Merkabah_8 ай бұрын
End ALL caste systems. Down with the Monarchy!
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
They don't even marry other royals anymore.
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
The monarchy that has literally no power or authority of any kind?
@magtinfal790822 күн бұрын
@@magtinfal7908 I guess "soft power" and the ability to issue royal commands, to say nothing of being the head of a state church... No. It still needs to be abolished. All of them do.
@Deridus22 күн бұрын
@Deridus What royal commands? They don't do anything lol. I can understand if you think it should be abolished because of how useless they are
@magtinfal790821 күн бұрын
@@magtinfal7908 Just watch a Black Rod ceremony for the Commons. It might all be a farce, but never forget the influence they have regardless. A minute of ceremony every now and again adds up, you know. Then there's Sandhurst. How many royals have gotten there because of blood rather than merit? My list of reasons for despising the concept of inherited political authority is too long and too counter to KZhead's censors.
@Deridus21 күн бұрын
Get em, Alex. 😂
@Xerion18 ай бұрын
"I must have forgotten mine today." I love the humor.
@JNB07233 ай бұрын
3ppl shouting words to one man is the perfect way to echo chamber yourself
@164procar48 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight: the best argument for continuing the monarchy is "well we've been doing it for a while now so we might as well keep doing it"? Look, I'm American and don't even pretend to understand British culture, but it seems like a pretty good idea to follow the rest of the western world and get rid of a system that was outdated a hundred years ago.
@samuelblack47928 ай бұрын
It would be far different if the monarchy ruled over them, but they have Parliament. The Royal Family live in luxury because of the concept of being paid to do charity work and volunteering. People say they're "a tourist attraction", but I think the buildings and properties are more of an attraction.
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
true except that the Commonwealth nations, such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand to name a few regard the RF officially the same as the British in our constitutional monarchies. Canada to your north was formed by those who did not side with the rebellion out of loyalty to their king.
@timothyirwin89743 ай бұрын
@@timothyirwin8974 Britain was stupid to give up its colonies and empire.
@gusgrizzel83973 ай бұрын
So should we end Christmas? Should we end democracy? We’ve been doing both for a while now. The rest of the western world is FUCKED. The weird thing is, all Nordic countries are MONARCHIES, and is some of the best countries in the world. I mean who would’ve thought? We just had the most elegant monarch loved by all danes abdicate, where people fucking cried. Dont tell me monarchy dont work.
@olliegreen34463 ай бұрын
@@gusgrizzel8397 Royal Family live in luxury because they have inherited wealth and authority. Charity work and volunteering is just a circus they perform to keep the masses happy.
@madscientist31342 ай бұрын
It just shows how they are not willing to think critically or reason about the subject, it's not a matter of reason but "a tradition", like suggesting as if something is "a tradition" then is exemt of any kind of criticism.
@fimbulInvierno8 ай бұрын
Alex should debate with an actual, educated monarchist, not just random people who know next to nothing about the subject.
@scaryperi30518 ай бұрын
@@scaryperi3051could be, however I don't think it would do much a difference thou.
@fimbulInvierno8 ай бұрын
@@fimbulInvierno How would it not? Ultracrepidarians vs actual experts... it would kinda have to, no? The UK is not a true monarchy, so it's a very bad example when discussing the actual purposes and functions of the system in question.
@scaryperi30518 ай бұрын
@@scaryperi3051 Because I've seen a lot of similar scenarios on similar themes, for example: when it's said that an atheist should debate a professional apologist or priest or similar, just to end saying basically the same arguments that are already debunked. So I don't think it would change that scenario at all for this specific theme, since it is all based on tradition and indirectly based on divine right.
@fimbulInvierno8 ай бұрын
@@fimbulInvierno Yes, but monarchism is not really comparable to religion in this context, is it? Government systems are not supernatural creations being peddled without evidence or reasoning like religious apologism does and apologists do. There are monarchies without the divine right of kings and even with constitutions--while still maintaining executive power, albeit not absolute. Now it sounds like you're straw manning the government type just because you've been exposed to one version of it, and a poor one at that.
@scaryperi30518 ай бұрын
Show hosts: "THIS CRAZY THING ISN'T ACTUALLY CRAZY, BECAUSE THERE ARE *OTHER* CRAZY THINGS WE DO AS WELL!"
@ryancox50972 ай бұрын
'Do you wear a tie?' 'I forgot mine today'
@douglassmithe97993 ай бұрын
British Panels when you criticize an outdated hierarchy: ( •̀ ᴖ •́ )
@hexagonproductions20198 ай бұрын
British panels when you twist the positive words from a grandson about his grandmother into a anti-monarchy jab.
@j0kerclash2895 ай бұрын
@@j0kerclash289the monarchy deserves more frequent jabs
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
@@j0kerclash289can’t think of much else that I harbor disdain for about you brits
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewton sure, but doing it at that moment was inconsiderate and rude.
@j0kerclash2892 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewtonPreferably with a specific brand of the coof vax?
@djinnxx70502 ай бұрын
I am grateful that my English, Irish, and Scottish ancestors left those lands to immigrate to America centuries ago.
@proudatheist20428 ай бұрын
Mine too as they ended up in Canada which has the same RF. Some of them got stuck in the states some escaped to the great white north.
@timothyirwin89743 ай бұрын
yeah we might have to put up with pompous royal nonsense...but at least 100% of our children survive a school day
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
If their only defence is 'its a tradition based on things we don't believe' then they've already lost.
@longbeardbobson471021 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I love it when the peasant get defensive over the mocking of idols! Great remark too!
@cojuk73 ай бұрын
I think it's the atheist in us. The thought of bowing, worshipping, and/or submitting to someone else is just weak and creepy.
@jjbradian38348 ай бұрын
Unironic "Amen'" from me, a *very* confident atheist.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
It’s disrespectful to most humans to bow to a random person called queen. Since I don’t like being disrespectful, I have disdain for royalty.
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
I am amazed how everyone just tries to interrupt you. Are they so afraid of what you're going to say? A rhetoric question...
@LukeVilent8 ай бұрын
She surely is looking down on everyone, she is a highness. 😂
@madelynhernandez74538 ай бұрын
She’s comparing wearing a tie to submission to a monarchy. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂
@808nats4 күн бұрын
Royalists trying not to look ridiculous challenge (impossible)
@matthewgagnon94268 ай бұрын
Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the messes, not some farcical ethroning ceremony... If the Brits wand a monarchy, they can have one. I maintained they would be better without, however.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
most of us Brits have no interest in the royals or the "institution". personally, id strip them of all power and stuff them in a low-income council estate so they can see what actual life in the UK is like@@Deridus
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
Twisting a comment about someone looking down on us from Heaven into a negative comment is ridiculous
@igorlopes75892 ай бұрын
@@igorlopes7589I disagree. changing the subject with a pun while pointing out the ridiculous of others isn’t ridiculous
@SigFigNewton2 ай бұрын
They would look less ridiculous if they were legitimate hairs, like Simon Abney Hastings.
@Anon1gh3Ай бұрын
I am a Catholic and I find your videos on the monarchy very true and funny 😂
@alexrdy19868 ай бұрын
Weird take to bring religion into it, but Catholics supposedly wouldn't recognize the validity of the British Monarchy since it separated from the Church and declared itself head of the Anglican Church.
@Dan_Capone8 ай бұрын
@@Dan_Caponeit's not weird to bring religion into it at all. Alex is mostly known as an atheist rather than an anti-monarchist.
@chesterdonnelly12128 ай бұрын
It's always so fun watching this knowing nearly every other country on earth finds this to be a ridiculous debate
@michaelduguay76985 ай бұрын
We need to start questioning these traditions, not pass them on for the sake of it. End the monarchy.
@2l84me83 ай бұрын
He didn't mean it like that. He obviously just meant looking down from heaven.
@r4h4al8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I don't believe heaven exists and neither does Alex, but it was obvious what Harry meant.
@robertl4268 ай бұрын
He points this out, he knows what Harry meant but he thinks the phrase can be very ironic when you associate it with how the moncarchs think they're above others.
@GiubileiFernando8 ай бұрын
It was a joke not a serious point jesus christ
@matt69nice8 ай бұрын
@@GiubileiFernando Yeah, it was a fair comment.
@r4h4al8 ай бұрын
@@matt69nice I never said it wasn’t a joke.
@r4h4al8 ай бұрын
She blundered there asking you if you wear a tie
@EarlZMoade8 ай бұрын
really grasping at straws isnt she wearing a tie is obviously the same has having a family who rules because some f**king sky-nonce said so
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
Lol... Equating any of this to the tradition of "wearing a tie"
@IRanOutOfPhrases5 ай бұрын
love that Alex is unleashing his inner hitchens once in a while. its glorious!
@jrcuartz18295 ай бұрын
Communism under Stalin was a "tradition" and sort of worked too 😂
@hc41388 ай бұрын
Something I never tired of reminding people: It was conservative Communists who tried to overthrow Yeltsin.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
The UK 🇬🇧 needs to rid itself of the Royal family.
@Amazing_Mark8 ай бұрын
All of their so-called nobles, really. It's nothing but a caste system and must therefore be ended.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
No it doesn't, what we need is more patriotism and our empire back
@Hungrycats16 ай бұрын
Your RF are living like billionaires. They don't rule over you, they are just a rich family with titles. They are paid to do "charity work" and be a "tourist attraction". But they don't run the country at all. They wouldn't be rich if it weren't for the British people and the property and jewels they've inherited.
@gusgrizzel83976 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 as a Brit, we should dismantle the royal institution and fuck them off. bunch of inbred, spoiled, child raping nonces the lot of them
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
What would this change for better? Nothing. If a change doesn't bring benefits it shouldn't happen at all
@igorlopes75892 ай бұрын
One more reason I'm glad to be an American: don't have to watch British TV. Don't have to watch American TV either. God bless America...
@VinceLyle21614 ай бұрын
Lol Alex was an unintentional troll..love it
@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo36438 ай бұрын
"We bow to the institution not the person" how revealing. I'm not sure what's worse, people who simply just like having a monarch and are unaware of the institution, or those who are actively aware of the monarchy as an institution and still choose to bow. I know its annoying these people speak over and interrupt Alex, however in doing so they reveal more and more about their views and how flawed they are.
@maxhowlett96618 ай бұрын
They argue it both ways depending on what's more inconvenient at the time - the timeless but anachronistic institution, or the living but out of touch monarch.
@matt69nice8 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, we do the exact same thing with democracy.
@olliegreen34463 ай бұрын
Carl Schmitt rolling in his grave rn.
@Anon1gh3Ай бұрын
Well you were being pedantic
@dennisgoatimer10798 ай бұрын
Excellent zinger, Alex. Hitchens would approve of that wit.
@johnwestcott56127 ай бұрын
Imagine simping for a royal family in the year of 2024
@doktordanomite91052 күн бұрын
“you claim to be against an unjustifiable monarchy in the modern day, yet wear clothes. Curious. 🧐“
@theactualashley5 ай бұрын
I always said "if the queen drove past my house I would not get off my lounge to look out the window." Now she is gone, I feel no different about it.
@moesheen6548 ай бұрын
Are you sure? If the dead queen drove past your house in her ghost car (or maybe dead royalty would rather use ghost horses and carriage), would you really not get off your lounge to look out the window?
@mailill8 ай бұрын
I might give the middle finger or use a fog horn. Does that count?
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
I love this guy lmao, I still can't believe a modern country still has a royal family
@thebluerecruit14344 ай бұрын
Probably the first time she has looked up to the rest of us
@zeege80283 ай бұрын
Who actually watches this?
@SchgurmTewehr8 ай бұрын
You apparently.
@littlebitofhope14898 ай бұрын
Me
@jorgegordillo7918 ай бұрын
You me and God
@harman19578 ай бұрын
@@harman1957Which one, Zeus?
@TheAxeter8 ай бұрын
@@TheAxeterBa'al Hadaad, in my case.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
It was pedantic, it was funny, and it was 100% correct
@ActualToucan2 ай бұрын
Looking down on us assumes Harry has insight into heaven. That’s one hell of a gift 😅
@GLYNDYER3 ай бұрын
I love that wearing a tie is somehow comparable to being ruled over by someone arbitrarily
@allrequiredfields4 ай бұрын
since the declaration of human rights i'm afraid no one is above anyone anymore, not even god.
@HarryNicNicholas8 ай бұрын
Birthright predates human rights
@chesterdonnelly12128 ай бұрын
That's one more reason to get rid of it. Birthright, not human rights. Monarchy is a caste system and should be dispensed with.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
@@Deridus let's wait until someone comes up with a better system before we do that.
@chesterdonnelly12127 ай бұрын
@@chesterdonnelly1212 thats the dumbest comment ever
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
She's not looking at anyone, she is dead.
@Britonbear8 ай бұрын
I felt such joy in watching my distant Irish kinsmen singing, "Lizzy's in box." All caste systems must end, especially monarchies.
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
By the order of spaghetti monster , I'm your king. Y'all bow down to me from now on.
@sourabhjogalekar3842Ай бұрын
Sharp dude like that could have a good life here in the States
@fryfrom987 ай бұрын
Doubt it. The US might not have a monarchy but it still has a lot of r3tard3d traditions a smart person like Alex would disagree with.
@ihsahnakerfeldt92803 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same. And to then compare it to wearing a tie etc...
@johnchambers98368 ай бұрын
Goddamn I didn’t think I could love Alex anymore!!!! 😂
@johnmacias4888 ай бұрын
I don't think handshakes, weddings or wearing a tie scrounge off the taxpayer...
@Terrezio8 ай бұрын
He is 100% correct, the monarchy should be got rid of and the people should get to vote for a leader.
@jonathandumbell93842 ай бұрын
And people like you who still don't understand the difference between Republicanism, Monarchy, and Democracy should definitely not be allowed to vote. People like you are the reason Democracy is rotting from within and the Greek philosophers rejected it the moment it came out.
@holyromanemperor4202 ай бұрын
Abolish the monarchy
@brianharris72437 ай бұрын
Yes.
@deethwarrior7 ай бұрын
*Hear, hear!*
@Deridus7 ай бұрын
Never, you cant abolish a whole country's tradition and culture, you anti-monarchists are insane
@Hungrycats16 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 We may be insane, but we aren't wrong.
@Deridus6 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 tradition is nothing but peer pressure from dead people. so who gives a f**k what they think? also, there are many traditions we dont follow...so why do we have to follow one of the most ridiculous ones? ruled by a family of inbred, child molesting, free loaders just because some fictional fairy in a magic sky land said so? fuck them. kick them out. and at the very least ALL TAX payers should be allowed to opt out of paying for them...then we will see how long they last
@iamanowl263 ай бұрын
He killed her twice with this sentence 😂
@genius895708 ай бұрын
“But we’re bowing to the institution, not the individual.” Wow. It’s incredible how brainwashed people are.
@JoeBuck-uc3bl4 ай бұрын
Shaking hands is not the same is having to submit to royal people who are in no way better than a regular man
@juicea62862 ай бұрын
That something is "traditional" doesn't make it right
@Nicolas.Himself7 ай бұрын
“Gen z get offended at everything. They can’t even listen to opposing points of view without getting triggered”
@ethanbenson7 ай бұрын
This specific bizarre thing is good because we sometimes generally do other weird things
@olivetree992020 күн бұрын
Haha that was a good one.
@daddyleon8 ай бұрын
I don't get it
@L-88 ай бұрын
It's tradition, their family was given a sword by an Angel. We got to respect that😂😂😂😂 this is insane
@yamibakura80968 ай бұрын
Alex was the smartest person in that room by a country mile.
@robinfox44407 ай бұрын
I love this guy more and more, just seems to be spot on on everything
@Wightkitesurfer3 ай бұрын
if i were religious i'd assume shes looking up
@somethingsomething4048 ай бұрын
I like to imagine she's down there screaming up at us
@KohanKilletz2 ай бұрын
Wear a tie = Monarchy appointed by God
@jamesonrichards51055 ай бұрын
It's hilarious how you could send them all spinning in circles with a simple joke. It shows they don't have a leg to stand on
@Melaheidi3 ай бұрын
Lovely how they all talk over him without allow for a discussion
How to win a debate:keep talking to prevent your opposition from forming arguements
from the Piers Morgan handbook on 'winning' debates
@@nicholasbain2835Muhammed Hijab also does that
@@nicholasbain2835hahahahaha opened the replies to say at least thats what piers does! 😂
More like just let them keep talking til they destroy themselves, seriously she just said shaking hands is equal to worshiping a dictator
I want to see someone in that situation yell "Should I just leave? Because you can easily have a conversation with yourself without me."
Do you wear a tie? She asks the man not wearing a tie.
Well apparently not! 😂
xD
I no longer wear ties as it is cultural appropriation.... I am not french so I shouldn't wear one😂
Why stop at the tie? Clothing in general, or gender appropriate attire at the very least ....
Yes we all love wearing a noose around our neck. Surely a sign of subservience.
"we bow to the position, not the person." Great argument for a position you cannot take without being the right person.
An no actual reason offered other than, "because we always have."
@@RustyWalkerita because they are our or supposed to be our leaders
@@Nathan-rn7wlSo's my manager but I don't bow to them.
@@RustyWalker ok? he doesnt run the country
@@Nathan-rn7wl Follow the logic where it goes. My example is valid based on the argument provided. P1. Leaders should be bowed to. P2. My manager is a leader. C. Therefore my manager should be bowed to. I don't agree with premise 1 so the conclusion doesn't follow. I act as if the conclusion doesn't follow in my daily life. I don't bow to my manager. Therefore, it follows that the conclusion doesn't follow for any leaders if that's the only reason why people bow to them.
It’s not a ridiculous tradition, it’s a condescending one.
Both? Both!
Nothing is more important than culture and heritage nothing at all most people are willing to at least risk their lives for it if you don't have it you have nothing the royals have no power many obligations and make millions happy as long as they have majority support you'd have to be an evil dictator to remove them
And she had the audacity to compare a handshake to a bow 🤣
Not mutually exclusive :)
Being offended by irrelevant sht is much more ridiculous.
Shaking hands is a gesture of equality, not submission. Tradition is fine, forced subservience to someone by their right of birth is disgusting.
Good point that. Some traditions good. Others not so. Thanks.
@tonyschumacher-jones1540 Put it this way, I'm saying that tradition is irrelevant to the point. I only bring up handshakes and compare it to other traditions within context as a response to the woman in the video doing so. I don't think saying "but it's tradition" just wipes away all negativity affiliated with it otherwise. Edit: I assume you meant that comment sarcastically but on the now-noticeable chance that you didn't, sorry lmao
The difference is these are rituals that are universally done by the common people and by the rich aristocrats. Praising someone due to their prescribed status is really strange
Maybe she meant when one party is the first to offer a handshake within etiquette
shaking hands is also a test of basic dexterity and to show you don't have a weapon. That is what i was told anyway when discussing its roots
This is a perfect example of appeal to tradition
We fight war's for less of course not everyone supports all traditions but you don't have to all you have to do is respect to millions they are very important
@@davidevans3223millions have traditions of hating LGBTQ and women. I will not show an inkling of respect for these people or the traditions they stand for. Same goes for the monarchy. There is no reason to respect such an archaic system that elevates one family above not just other people but in many cases the law itself. How can one stand for people being equal, and still support a monarchy?
@@davidevans3223 when the queen died millions lost access to incredibly important services and places because it's tradition to shut down those services Respect goes both way, if your tradition impedes on my way of living i'm not going to respect it
@@davidevans3223there's a difference between 'respecting' someone's traditions, and a significant portion of the taxes you pay being used to support it.
@@tripweed you're just full of hate for other's born into a different privalige why don't you swap your life for someone born into Rwanda it's a suppose a far bigger drop but of course to you that must mean even more wrong to many having running water and food is living like a king
well slavery is a tradition and it happened for centuries. That surely justifies it.
Millenia actually. Many millenia.
Widespread violence & crime have happened for practically all of history- it must be the ideal. Let us strive to be a wretch upon the Earth & all life! 🤦🏽♀️
I also think it particularly funny that a woman was so invested in appealing to tradition but I don't wanna get into how many traditions would not really make her happy to try to keep, as a woman. Unless she thinks her life is less important than a tie, which to bootlickers I'm never sure if it's clear.
Yeah maybe we should just “run with it”.
Not in the west thanks to the British empire the international slave trader's all over the world have been stopped but outside the Christian world real slaves not modern day slaves there's more than any other time in history. Everyone in the UK is born with different privaliges only the royals comes with duties and the majority support them so it's evil to remove them that's what dictator do
Let me just talk over Alex as he offers reasonable justification for what he said. Can't have that shit! It makes sense, and that terrifies me!
Always. Every single time. Thought I was watching piers Morgan for a second
But it was so uncouth of Alex to be critical of those inbred elitist toffs.
"Stop it patrick, you're scaring him"
@@stinkygoat2686Underrated comment
Tradition is often the opposite of common sense. It’s what you do despite there being no reason to do it
'we kind of run with it and it sort of works'. i have nothing more to add
Amazing right. Hell! I know a lot of folks with that thought process. I just wanna shake em,haha wake up people that’s crazy talk. “That’s just the way it is”type shit, kills me. Glad! I’m not the only one who caught that, sure is reassuring haha😂
@@joshjackson678Its a good system without we would be worse of
Typical collectivist idealism, lol.
I love that he backpedaled to that without Alex even really responding
@@obitouchiha6439feels more like the denialism than idealism
Never have I seen so many people clutch pearls in unison
Pearl clutching has got to be one of the most hilarious idioms out there lmao
"I must of forgotten mine today!" Hitchen Feelings LOL
I know I died at that remark 😂😭
I applaud your patience here my goodness they never let you get a word in
Because we dont give jerkoffs like him the time to speak.
So a country needs to look up to someone who's only qualification is the correct sperm and egg happened to meet? 🤔
One would question the word correct. Apart from that spot on.
She did a great job keeping this country together fella
@@dennisgoatimer1079that’s not really the argument though, is it? no one is accusing the queen of having been a bad ruler, but rather questioning the system that made her ruler in the first place
@@liamosborne6859 The system is perfect fella without it you would have to wait around every single time one of them dies and by the time that happens the tyrannical dictator can't be stopped like Germany in the 30s when President Von Hindenburg died. Plus it's stability in this trying times that many people look up to. Just look at the Christmas Speech during COVID and how that did help people mentally.
@@dennisgoatimer1079 man you are so condescending with this fella talk
You probably never imagined you’d end up talking about this subject so much. I love it though
Why do they even get offended? The woman in the clip is ridiculous
people love being offended, in fact the smaller the brain....
The woman is offended because if she wasn’t offended then she wouldn’t be able to think of anything else to say.
I think it was a guy in the clip. I believe it's James Hewitt's lad.
@@fleurdanon did they just assume, they invited a random lad? The monarchy is a joke. We have one too in Denmark
The men are offended too.🙄
It's like a religion. Don't you dare insult the institute of power! Crazy
Isn't it. These anti monarchists with their refusal to consider themselves lesser than the king by virtue of birth
well i like to point out that the declaration of human rights and the constitution both over - ride god laws. the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment, we didn't vote for god or a king.
@@HarryNicNicholasThat's true but not everyone is American, 1st amendment means nothing for me
Well, isn't the monarch the head of the church of England?
@@redwire6315Only because a former wide load royal threw a tantrum and wanted to be able to sleep around unchallenged. Funny how there's a repeating historical theme in these people of tantrum throwing for self gain.
Oh yes wearing a tie is same as being told you are subjects of a fellow human who is given devine right to rule over you by virtue of birth
They’re so brainwashed and they’ll never understand that. The indoctrination begins at birth so it’s really not their fault.
Lmao
Thee don't rule over you. That's the main crux here. It is largely symbolic. The king has no political power.
and he's not even wearing a tie 😂😂
Are you referring to Judaic Ideology or British royalty? Lol
I like how Alex starts his sentence 10 times because they won’t stop interrupting him 😂
“I wasn’t just trying to be funny (although I was trying to do that), but I …” is such a great thing in a discussion like that, very disarming
If you don't mind me asking, what was he alluding to here? (English is not my first language, and I am terribly sorry if I inconvenienced you)
@@shahdhussein4652Looking down from heaven (as in: she’s dead, and now looks from the heavens), as well as “looking down on someone (who is socially beneath you).”
@@shahdhussein4652bro already speaking british 🤯
@@filipedias7284Are you sure he isn't British? His apologising for inconvenience potentially caused is spot on, I could swear to the lord above (should one exist, which it doesn't) that he is totally British.
really? I thought he was implying she was looking up (from hell)
The smug a-holes loudly speaking over Alex only make the royalists look more ridiculous and expidite their doom. Good job!
:p
Royalists aren't dumb. We all have birth and genetic privileges, some have more, some have less. Every single person, including Alex, is where he/she is mostly because of the genetic lottery. If it weren't for the lucky crossing over and good genes from parents, they wouldn't be what they are now. Everyone also has non gene related birth privileges. Look at history, the average person has almost never become the leader of a nation. Most often, they are children of rich and powerful people. Monarchy isn't as stupid as Republicans claim, it's just that you guys rarely ever debate with actual Monarchists or Monarchist scholars.
@@holyromanemperor420 The funniest part about your comment is that you seem to be serious. Monarchism is dead, deal with it. Or don't and keep larping as "Holyromanemperor420". You do you
that’s pedantic 😂. it’s like they’re too stuffy to even appreciate a well timed joke.
The same people harp on about how 'the left can't take a joke' and yet here they are
@@fleurdanon poor taste how
@@fleurdanon "She's looking down on all of us" THAT is a joke in poor taste.
@@karlschmied6218Royalty is in poor taste. Are you being intentionally ironic?
@@fleurdanon Every can be made fun of, get over yourself.
Wasn’t Harry talking about figuratively “looking down on us” from heaven? Or am I missing something here?
Its what we learn as children. Heaven is up in thr sky.
He was, that was part of the joke
@@fleurdanonBut then the would be no point to the yoke... Seems you didnt get the yoke in the first place and now wont admit it..
@fleurdanon Someone in that position has the right to be offended but it does nothing to change the fact that Alex has the more important right to make the joke in the first place. Many people in that position wouldn't like it? So what?
Harry is a moron. He thinks his mother is a living spirit and he thinks his wife has magic powers.
Decided a long time ago I’d never bow to another human being. My own personal tradition. 🙏
I'd bow if I was in Japan and the other person was bowing as well as a sign that we are respecting eachother as equals
I once worked in a place that receivec a royal visit. I bowed out - if I clearly was to get no work done that day, why be there at all? I mean - I didn't even have any warts that needed curing! One of my pathetic co-workers summed up my absence in a way that impressed even me. "But... but... what if people find out?" No slavery worse than the kind we volunteer for. I have hind legs. Even in old age, I reserve the right to stand on them...
I bow to nobody No god no master
@@spacewizard69you must be the ultimate sigma 😂
@@BobbyB24601 hell yeah , humans and puny gods
Alex is way too intelligent to even participate in a debate with such royal fools..
I find it interesting that they didn't say "Looking up at us"
I feel like Alex is kinda being a shit here. The Monarchy is ridiculous and out dated and fair criticism of it is completely warranted. But he didn't need to go about it this way. When he is intelligent enough to know full well that is not what Harry meant by "looking down on us." He is just being a provacatour.
He admits that he's trying to be funny, but it's not like they let him elaborate or that he doesn't have a point. He's saying the dude had a very poor choice of words.
Never let the reasonable person finish a sentence, everyone gang up and talk over him...
Don’t expect reasonableness from most people. Expect it least of all from people who have been taught that they have some kind of divine right to rule
These people... comparing undemocratic institution that rules over people, and still has great power, to "wearing ties", is ridiculous. But for that matter - yes, even wearing a tie is not something that should be enforced, just because it's "a tradition".
You're aware the monarchy doesn't actually rule over the population, right? The king or queen no longer has political authority
The monarchy doesn't even rule over anyone. They just volunteer at charity events.
Well, Its not really enforced, if a majority of a population wants to keep it, isnt it undemocratic to try and Cut it away? Also, it holds no power over you, so Why so against it?
Ties are stupid and absurd, yes. But not offensive in the way the royal family is
@@SigFigNewtonI would argue that ties are more dangerous and far more upsetting when caught up in a lathe or woodchipper.
To be fair, most of the time, when people refer to a dead relative looking down on them, they are usually just implying that the person is looking down due to being up in heaven.
She ain't in heaven
@@deethwarrior I don't really know much about her, so I can't really agree or disagree with you.
Alex knows, he was just being a dick, regardless of how justified his criticism of the monarchy is
Still bowing even after death 😂
"we kinda run with it and it sorta works" okay, but can i question it? Doesnt mean you need to change it, but god forbid i question tradition.
Right. Tradition should be respected to a certain degree, but it's not a religion. Questioning Tradition is not a sin. It's not like we wiwloose all cultural values just because someone questions the value of aristocrats in the 21.century.
People also "ran with" (some still do) sl@very and it "sorta worked." Just because something is a tradition doesn't mean it's good or should be defended. Appeal to tradition is one of the most well-known and transparent logical fallacies.
Well done Alex 👏 As a Swiss citizen I can only shake my head 😂 In our founding myth, Wilhelm Tell refused to bow down to the symbol of the tyrant Habsburg, thus starting our century long history of people's democracy 😊🙋♀️
And then refusing to do anything about the Nazis while storing their stolen riches! How glorious!
Long live the Swiss! Much love from the American West Coast.
As a Brit this is really upsetting. A panel of educated individuals who still think like Bronze Age sheep herders. Well done Alex, keep fighting for intellectual freedom.
The people support the RF as millionaires with their taxes, and they don't even rule over them. They are a tourist attraction, they "work" doing volunteer work. But who gets paid like that to do volunteering and charity work??
@@gusgrizzel8397 the most common rebuttal is they bring in tourism and thus, income for the whole country. I have never found this convincing and I still don’t believe it’s true either. Regardless if it was, I don’t think it’s worth it on a moral nor ethical level.
@@TheStanDudley Agree. Any income they bring in is cancelled by the Brit's paying taxes to support them. Allegedly Charles got 500 millions, but is overall worth 24 billion, when the Queen died. They're just rich people. They don't rule over anyone.
@@TheStanDudleyBut Why be so against it? Its not harming anyone, But to be fair, the UK has a greater deal of space between Rich and poor, so money is a huge thing. But the monarchy holds no real power, and stands as a thing for people to unify over. I dont get Why people want a boring republic where the head of State changes every 4 or 8’th year, just to get someone like Boris in who seemed like a Raving lunatic.
@@TheStanDudleyas a tourist, I’d actively avoid anything to do with the royal family. Theater in London was fantastic though!
Ah yes, the fallacy of appeal to tradition. You couldn’t watch a finer demonstration. 😂
They literally don't even think, they just voice whatever comes to mind... The whole time Alex is just trying to get a word in between their babbling.
The traditions they bring up aren't comparable in the slightest. We're mixing turtles, chameleons and crocodiles under the premise they're all reptiles.
End ALL caste systems. Down with the Monarchy!
They don't even marry other royals anymore.
The monarchy that has literally no power or authority of any kind?
@@magtinfal7908 I guess "soft power" and the ability to issue royal commands, to say nothing of being the head of a state church... No. It still needs to be abolished. All of them do.
@Deridus What royal commands? They don't do anything lol. I can understand if you think it should be abolished because of how useless they are
@@magtinfal7908 Just watch a Black Rod ceremony for the Commons. It might all be a farce, but never forget the influence they have regardless. A minute of ceremony every now and again adds up, you know. Then there's Sandhurst. How many royals have gotten there because of blood rather than merit? My list of reasons for despising the concept of inherited political authority is too long and too counter to KZhead's censors.
Get em, Alex. 😂
"I must have forgotten mine today." I love the humor.
3ppl shouting words to one man is the perfect way to echo chamber yourself
So let me get this straight: the best argument for continuing the monarchy is "well we've been doing it for a while now so we might as well keep doing it"? Look, I'm American and don't even pretend to understand British culture, but it seems like a pretty good idea to follow the rest of the western world and get rid of a system that was outdated a hundred years ago.
It would be far different if the monarchy ruled over them, but they have Parliament. The Royal Family live in luxury because of the concept of being paid to do charity work and volunteering. People say they're "a tourist attraction", but I think the buildings and properties are more of an attraction.
true except that the Commonwealth nations, such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand to name a few regard the RF officially the same as the British in our constitutional monarchies. Canada to your north was formed by those who did not side with the rebellion out of loyalty to their king.
@@timothyirwin8974 Britain was stupid to give up its colonies and empire.
So should we end Christmas? Should we end democracy? We’ve been doing both for a while now. The rest of the western world is FUCKED. The weird thing is, all Nordic countries are MONARCHIES, and is some of the best countries in the world. I mean who would’ve thought? We just had the most elegant monarch loved by all danes abdicate, where people fucking cried. Dont tell me monarchy dont work.
@@gusgrizzel8397 Royal Family live in luxury because they have inherited wealth and authority. Charity work and volunteering is just a circus they perform to keep the masses happy.
It just shows how they are not willing to think critically or reason about the subject, it's not a matter of reason but "a tradition", like suggesting as if something is "a tradition" then is exemt of any kind of criticism.
Alex should debate with an actual, educated monarchist, not just random people who know next to nothing about the subject.
@@scaryperi3051could be, however I don't think it would do much a difference thou.
@@fimbulInvierno How would it not? Ultracrepidarians vs actual experts... it would kinda have to, no? The UK is not a true monarchy, so it's a very bad example when discussing the actual purposes and functions of the system in question.
@@scaryperi3051 Because I've seen a lot of similar scenarios on similar themes, for example: when it's said that an atheist should debate a professional apologist or priest or similar, just to end saying basically the same arguments that are already debunked. So I don't think it would change that scenario at all for this specific theme, since it is all based on tradition and indirectly based on divine right.
@@fimbulInvierno Yes, but monarchism is not really comparable to religion in this context, is it? Government systems are not supernatural creations being peddled without evidence or reasoning like religious apologism does and apologists do. There are monarchies without the divine right of kings and even with constitutions--while still maintaining executive power, albeit not absolute. Now it sounds like you're straw manning the government type just because you've been exposed to one version of it, and a poor one at that.
Show hosts: "THIS CRAZY THING ISN'T ACTUALLY CRAZY, BECAUSE THERE ARE *OTHER* CRAZY THINGS WE DO AS WELL!"
'Do you wear a tie?' 'I forgot mine today'
British Panels when you criticize an outdated hierarchy: ( •̀ ᴖ •́ )
British panels when you twist the positive words from a grandson about his grandmother into a anti-monarchy jab.
@@j0kerclash289the monarchy deserves more frequent jabs
@@j0kerclash289can’t think of much else that I harbor disdain for about you brits
@@SigFigNewton sure, but doing it at that moment was inconsiderate and rude.
@@SigFigNewtonPreferably with a specific brand of the coof vax?
I am grateful that my English, Irish, and Scottish ancestors left those lands to immigrate to America centuries ago.
Mine too as they ended up in Canada which has the same RF. Some of them got stuck in the states some escaped to the great white north.
yeah we might have to put up with pompous royal nonsense...but at least 100% of our children survive a school day
If their only defence is 'its a tradition based on things we don't believe' then they've already lost.
😂😂😂😂😂 I love it when the peasant get defensive over the mocking of idols! Great remark too!
I think it's the atheist in us. The thought of bowing, worshipping, and/or submitting to someone else is just weak and creepy.
Unironic "Amen'" from me, a *very* confident atheist.
It’s disrespectful to most humans to bow to a random person called queen. Since I don’t like being disrespectful, I have disdain for royalty.
I am amazed how everyone just tries to interrupt you. Are they so afraid of what you're going to say? A rhetoric question...
She surely is looking down on everyone, she is a highness. 😂
She’s comparing wearing a tie to submission to a monarchy. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂
Royalists trying not to look ridiculous challenge (impossible)
Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the messes, not some farcical ethroning ceremony... If the Brits wand a monarchy, they can have one. I maintained they would be better without, however.
most of us Brits have no interest in the royals or the "institution". personally, id strip them of all power and stuff them in a low-income council estate so they can see what actual life in the UK is like@@Deridus
Twisting a comment about someone looking down on us from Heaven into a negative comment is ridiculous
@@igorlopes7589I disagree. changing the subject with a pun while pointing out the ridiculous of others isn’t ridiculous
They would look less ridiculous if they were legitimate hairs, like Simon Abney Hastings.
I am a Catholic and I find your videos on the monarchy very true and funny 😂
Weird take to bring religion into it, but Catholics supposedly wouldn't recognize the validity of the British Monarchy since it separated from the Church and declared itself head of the Anglican Church.
@@Dan_Caponeit's not weird to bring religion into it at all. Alex is mostly known as an atheist rather than an anti-monarchist.
It's always so fun watching this knowing nearly every other country on earth finds this to be a ridiculous debate
We need to start questioning these traditions, not pass them on for the sake of it. End the monarchy.
He didn't mean it like that. He obviously just meant looking down from heaven.
Exactly. I don't believe heaven exists and neither does Alex, but it was obvious what Harry meant.
He points this out, he knows what Harry meant but he thinks the phrase can be very ironic when you associate it with how the moncarchs think they're above others.
It was a joke not a serious point jesus christ
@@GiubileiFernando Yeah, it was a fair comment.
@@matt69nice I never said it wasn’t a joke.
She blundered there asking you if you wear a tie
really grasping at straws isnt she wearing a tie is obviously the same has having a family who rules because some f**king sky-nonce said so
Lol... Equating any of this to the tradition of "wearing a tie"
love that Alex is unleashing his inner hitchens once in a while. its glorious!
Communism under Stalin was a "tradition" and sort of worked too 😂
Something I never tired of reminding people: It was conservative Communists who tried to overthrow Yeltsin.
The UK 🇬🇧 needs to rid itself of the Royal family.
All of their so-called nobles, really. It's nothing but a caste system and must therefore be ended.
No it doesn't, what we need is more patriotism and our empire back
Your RF are living like billionaires. They don't rule over you, they are just a rich family with titles. They are paid to do "charity work" and be a "tourist attraction". But they don't run the country at all. They wouldn't be rich if it weren't for the British people and the property and jewels they've inherited.
@@Hungrycats1 as a Brit, we should dismantle the royal institution and fuck them off. bunch of inbred, spoiled, child raping nonces the lot of them
What would this change for better? Nothing. If a change doesn't bring benefits it shouldn't happen at all
One more reason I'm glad to be an American: don't have to watch British TV. Don't have to watch American TV either. God bless America...
Lol Alex was an unintentional troll..love it
"We bow to the institution not the person" how revealing. I'm not sure what's worse, people who simply just like having a monarch and are unaware of the institution, or those who are actively aware of the monarchy as an institution and still choose to bow. I know its annoying these people speak over and interrupt Alex, however in doing so they reveal more and more about their views and how flawed they are.
They argue it both ways depending on what's more inconvenient at the time - the timeless but anachronistic institution, or the living but out of touch monarch.
Well, to be fair, we do the exact same thing with democracy.
Carl Schmitt rolling in his grave rn.
Well you were being pedantic
Excellent zinger, Alex. Hitchens would approve of that wit.
Imagine simping for a royal family in the year of 2024
“you claim to be against an unjustifiable monarchy in the modern day, yet wear clothes. Curious. 🧐“
I always said "if the queen drove past my house I would not get off my lounge to look out the window." Now she is gone, I feel no different about it.
Are you sure? If the dead queen drove past your house in her ghost car (or maybe dead royalty would rather use ghost horses and carriage), would you really not get off your lounge to look out the window?
I might give the middle finger or use a fog horn. Does that count?
I love this guy lmao, I still can't believe a modern country still has a royal family
Probably the first time she has looked up to the rest of us
Who actually watches this?
You apparently.
Me
You me and God
@@harman1957Which one, Zeus?
@@TheAxeterBa'al Hadaad, in my case.
It was pedantic, it was funny, and it was 100% correct
Looking down on us assumes Harry has insight into heaven. That’s one hell of a gift 😅
I love that wearing a tie is somehow comparable to being ruled over by someone arbitrarily
since the declaration of human rights i'm afraid no one is above anyone anymore, not even god.
Birthright predates human rights
That's one more reason to get rid of it. Birthright, not human rights. Monarchy is a caste system and should be dispensed with.
@@Deridus let's wait until someone comes up with a better system before we do that.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 thats the dumbest comment ever
She's not looking at anyone, she is dead.
I felt such joy in watching my distant Irish kinsmen singing, "Lizzy's in box." All caste systems must end, especially monarchies.
By the order of spaghetti monster , I'm your king. Y'all bow down to me from now on.
Sharp dude like that could have a good life here in the States
Doubt it. The US might not have a monarchy but it still has a lot of r3tard3d traditions a smart person like Alex would disagree with.
I was thinking exactly the same. And to then compare it to wearing a tie etc...
Goddamn I didn’t think I could love Alex anymore!!!! 😂
I don't think handshakes, weddings or wearing a tie scrounge off the taxpayer...
He is 100% correct, the monarchy should be got rid of and the people should get to vote for a leader.
And people like you who still don't understand the difference between Republicanism, Monarchy, and Democracy should definitely not be allowed to vote. People like you are the reason Democracy is rotting from within and the Greek philosophers rejected it the moment it came out.
Abolish the monarchy
Yes.
*Hear, hear!*
Never, you cant abolish a whole country's tradition and culture, you anti-monarchists are insane
@@Hungrycats1 We may be insane, but we aren't wrong.
@@Hungrycats1 tradition is nothing but peer pressure from dead people. so who gives a f**k what they think? also, there are many traditions we dont follow...so why do we have to follow one of the most ridiculous ones? ruled by a family of inbred, child molesting, free loaders just because some fictional fairy in a magic sky land said so? fuck them. kick them out. and at the very least ALL TAX payers should be allowed to opt out of paying for them...then we will see how long they last
He killed her twice with this sentence 😂
“But we’re bowing to the institution, not the individual.” Wow. It’s incredible how brainwashed people are.
Shaking hands is not the same is having to submit to royal people who are in no way better than a regular man
That something is "traditional" doesn't make it right
“Gen z get offended at everything. They can’t even listen to opposing points of view without getting triggered”
This specific bizarre thing is good because we sometimes generally do other weird things
Haha that was a good one.
I don't get it
It's tradition, their family was given a sword by an Angel. We got to respect that😂😂😂😂 this is insane
Alex was the smartest person in that room by a country mile.
I love this guy more and more, just seems to be spot on on everything
if i were religious i'd assume shes looking up
I like to imagine she's down there screaming up at us
Wear a tie = Monarchy appointed by God
It's hilarious how you could send them all spinning in circles with a simple joke. It shows they don't have a leg to stand on
Lovely how they all talk over him without allow for a discussion