Quran's undeniable error - This is why
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Brilliantly done!
@@kyss231 lol. Stop spreading lies. You’ve been reported for spreading Misinformation.
Adam: So well expressed, clear and coherent. Those extra examples of where 'wajada' is used, should be added to polemicists' arsenals when debating muslims. No way around this one. Thank you.
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
your whole nosense about the word wajada is based on ignorance of Arabic language. you can translate the word wajada depending on the context as "he found it" or "it looked like that to him" or "appeared to him" which is not a literal translation. but anyone who studies different languages know you can just literally translate words from one language to another language. point is this experience described in the verse as "wajada" is the experience from point of view of dhul qarnayn, so your claim of "undeniable error" is only in your mind
if you understood Arabic language you would have known that the word "wajada" refers to the experience of a third person, it doesn't refer to the experience of the one relating the story. which in this case is Allah
Keep going with these excellent videos .👏👏
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
Yes, Adam must continue with these videos to open the minds of those who do not want to think. Don't you realize that if there was a creator,, he would not need to create a human being to be punished later. He would not need to be prayed every day, nor punish for something that he, in advance, had already decided for each of us. Stop scaring people and let us live in peace@@kyss231
what is excellent is this guy doesnt understand Arabic . if you understood Arabic language you would have known that the word "wajada" refers to the experience of a third person, it doesn't refer to the experience of the one relating the story. which in this case is Allah
This is solid work my friend! I love it ❤
Bring these so called errors in HAMZA'S DEN live stream where world is accepting Islam after challenging it
@@theseeker4308 😂😂😂
@@theseeker4308- you mean lifelong Muslims who they’ve arranged to call in!
Do you want to know a muslim's response? That is if you are interested.
@@mohamadromzee7394 There’s nothing to be responded to here. He just read the Quran in it’s 7th Century literal understanding. Whatever you have contrary to this are just bunch of lies and mental gymnastics you guys engages in to save the Quran from embarrassment.
I’m sooo glad you started doing videos in English! I loved your videos in Arabic and I think it’s really important for KZheadrs who criticise Islam in Arabic to also do videos in English if they’re able to because you guys have soo much knowledge to share but most Muslims aren’t native Arabic speakers 😊
Do them in Urdu too and Bengali mainly for Pakistani and Bangladeshi audiences.
That's true my friend, we need to talk about this with all the people we need to talk to help Muslims they are been deceived for centuries from the soldiers of satan,we need to share this information everywhere where we are
I'm an atheist, so these videos are leaning against an open door but I'm interested in learning more about criticisms of Islam/religion. I hope that they have a much bigger impact on the believing Arab speakers. He has far more followers on that channel, so I guess they do.
You guys are idiots there is no errors in the Quran. That verse says about king that was walking and it appears to him that the sun was set in the murky water. Like when your in the beach and sunsets it looks as if the sun is setting in the ocean
@@thebee7233see, besides muslims, no a party in the world accepts Jesus as mesayeh. According to what u r on, the video's author in greater threat,.
In a Persian site, they have collected four translations of the Quran, from the four most prominent Persian translators. Three of them say he found it, and one says it seemed to him!
Islam is the most obvious false pagan cult made by medieval Arabs.
The phrase is "He found it" So, it's his perspective. Similarly it's also mentioned in the Scriptures of Jews. That's why Polytheists came to test the prophethood by taking advices from the Jews.
@@naqib_313 Potato, this is your allah talking, not this two-horn-guy (whoever he is), so this is your dumb allah perspective.
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
@@naqib_313 He never found it setting in a pool of muddy water.....it's a fairy tale
This is actually the miracle from Allah. Too many scientific error but yet so many people don't mind. 😢
You are right bro
I know you 😂 Ive seen ur coment a lot Good job
That was perfect...🤣😂😅
I find a new channel and Mo is already here ;-)
Brother in Christ your everywhere in the comments supporting Christianity and that’s good but don’t forget to work on your own salvation by reading the bible and practicing as well 😁 just a reminder cuz I use to only watch christian content and forgetting that my bible is there too🙏 Prays the Lord🙏
He is one of the best content creators when it comes to watch Islam from a critical perspective.
100% true
But I don't know why he fails in front of SyfeTalk
@@naqib_313Jesus is real and he loves you I hope you can realise this and turn to Him God bless you 🙏🏽❤️
@@OrthodoxyIsBased I don't reject Jesus عليه الصلاة والسلام
@@naqib_313 But you degraded Jesus by making him only as prophet. You are believing a fake Jesus, Jesus in Bible and Quran is WAAAAY different.
Beautiful work . Keep the good work
Am a huge fan of your videos. Thank you for this one too.
Excellent video & information, Bro. Thanks!
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
Ex-Muslim here. Thanks a lot for sharing.
jesus is god loves y and bless y amhn
@@FIREROScome man g do u know that the guy in video he comes from Christan family hehehe cuz Islam and Christianity false
@@kyss231😂 Abdool, your Quran might be one of the erroneous “bibles” that got rejected because it’s so absurd it couldn’t be taken seriously as the Word of God by Jews and Christians.
The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Jesus said @@kyss231
Do study literature first. You lack rhetorical knowledge.
you are making the best convincing and intellectual critics, without insulting, without assaulting.
From the bible “Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the campaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?”(KJV, Deuteronomy 11:30)
@user-mp6dt6pj2p Well the bible was written by men . Why don't you compare the Quran to something else like a Science textbook or something ?
@@AntiIslamicProblemChild Its used in the sense of direction, not a scientific claim. “Are they not beyond the Jordan, west of the road, toward the going down of the sun, in the land of the Canaanites who live in the Arabah, opposite Gilgal, beside the oak of Moreh?” Deuteronomy 11:30 ESV
@@moneyman5462 No kidding - quran and science?
@@moneyman5462so the toilet book of qoooran written by??? Animals?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Impressed with the clarity of the explanation
Great illustrations, found your channel via Mythvision, keep up the great work
Great work. We always learn from you. Thanks from Algeria.
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
Great video. 😊
Maa Shaa Allah! May Allay grant you with paradise! ❤
Thank you for providing more context and further evidence, especially about the understanding of early Muslims of this verse.
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
Pls do more videos.. Also title it differently like scientific error, sun setting verse so that it is discovered in search
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
It is interesting that Muslims will argue about the meaning of one word while the entire passage is borrowed from an existing legend!
Explain please
Existing story that was made a legend and attributed to the Quran you mean.
fool yourself
Now before any wishful thinking Muslim starts spewing that standard script I am gonna leave this here The following is( Tafsir al-Tabari ) which is the first ever commentary on the Quran done by al-tabari who is considered one of the greatest and reliable historian of early Islam The meaning of the Almighty’s saying, ‘Until he reached the place of the setting of the sun he found it set in a spring of murky water,’ is as follows: When the Almighty says, ‘Until he reached,’ He is addressing Zul-Qarnain. Concerning the verse, ‘the place of the setting of the sun he found it set in a spring of murky water,’ the people differed on how to pronounce that verse. Some of the people of Madina and Basra read it as ‘Hami’a spring,’ meaning that the sun sets in a spring that contains mud. While a group of the people of Medina and the majority of the people of Kufa read it as, ‘Hamiya spring’ meaning that the sun sets in a spring of warm water. The people of commentary have differed on the meaning of this depending on the way they read the verse. Tafsir al-Tabari 18:86 So al-Tabari says of the Basran and Madina reading of the Qur'an: بـمعنى: أنها تغرب فـي عين ماء ذات حمأة "Meaning: that it sets in a spring of muddy water." And al-Tabari says of the Kufan and Madina reading of the Qur'an: يعنـي أنها تغرب فـي عين ماء حارّة "It means that it sets in a spring of hot water" Early authorities such as Ibn 'Abbas explain this to mean that the sun sets in black mud: (Ibn Abbas was a cousin of Muhammad and close companion. Muhammad reportedly prayed for ibn Abbas to Allah to increase his knowledge on religious matters ( Sahih Bukhari 9:92:375 ) he was known as “the interpreter of the Quran” by Abdullah bin Masud, “ocean of knowledge” and “learned man of the Ummah”. The Islamic literature is full of statements of praise from the earliest Muslims, and prophet Muhammad himself ) . So it no matter of doubt that ibn Abbas is a great scholar of Islam now let's see what he has to say about Quran 18:86 Yunus bin Abd al-A’la Al-Misri (170-264)
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Well done
Thanks for the comment man.
That’s ok, we understand your comprehension of the Quran is convoluted here’s some reading- When I read the verse, I was puzzled by the meaning as well. The main message is between 18:83 - 18:91. Here is the translation I read. Please also read my explanation of it after you finish reading this as well. وَيَسْئَلُونَكَ عَنْ ذِى الْقَرْنَيْنِ ۖ قُلْ سَأَتْلُوا عَلَيْكُمْ مِّنْهُ ذِكْرًا "And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about Dhul-Qarnayn. Say, I will recite to you about him a report." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 83) إِنَّا مَكَّنَّا لَهُۥ فِى الْأَرْضِ وَءَاتَيْنٰهُ مِنْ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ سَبَبًا "Indeed We established him upon the earth, and We gave him to everything a way." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 84) فَأَتْبَعَ سَبَبًا "So he followed a way" (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 85) حَتّٰىٓ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِى عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ وَوَجَدَ عِنْدَهَا قَوْمًا ۗ قُلْنَا يٰذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّآ أَنْ تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّآ أَنْ تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًا "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 86) قَالَ أَمَّا مَنْ ظَلَمَ فَسَوْفَ نُعَذِّبُهُۥ ثُمَّ يُرَدُّ إِلٰى رَبِّهِۦ فَيُعَذِّبُهُۥ عَذَابًا نُّكْرًا "He said, As for one who wrongs, we will punish him. Then he will be returned to his Lord, and He will punish him with a terrible punishment." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 87) وَأَمَّا مَنْ ءَامَنَ وَعَمِلَ صٰلِحًا فَلَهُۥ جَزَآءً الْحُسْنٰى ۖ وَسَنَقُولُ لَهُۥ مِنْ أَمْرِنَا يُسْرًا "But as for one who believes and does righteousness, he will have a reward of Paradise, and we will speak to him from our command with ease." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 88) ثُمَّ أَتْبَعَ سَبَبًا "Then he followed a way" (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 89) حَتّٰىٓ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَطْلِعَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَطْلُعُ عَلٰى قَوْمٍ لَّمْ نَجْعَل لَّهُمْ مِّنْ دُونِهَا سِتْرًا "Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had not made against it any shield." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 90) كَذٰلِكَ وَقَدْ أَحَطْنَا بِمَا لَدَيْهِ خُبْرًا "Thus. And We had encompassed [all] that he had in knowledge." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 91) * Via Qur'an English Quran English - Apps on Google Play What leads some to doubt Islam (in the modern age) are verses 86 & 90. When I read these two verses, I thought reaching the ‘setting’ or ‘rising’ of the sun meant literally what it means. The place where the sun gets up or sets down. I read them once again and this time i looked at is as a whole. The interpretation I got waslike this ‘on his journey, he came to a land where he found the sun setting as if submerging into murky water.’ and a similar interpretation for the rising of the sun. The Dhu’l Qarnayn episode can be divided into three journeys, the first two of which are described in verses 18:86 and 18:90. In the first phrase of 18:86, Dhu’l Qarnayn travels until he reaches maghriba alshshamsi (مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ), and in the first phrase of 18:90, he travels until he reaches matliAAa alshshamsi (مَطْلِعَ الشَّمْسِ). Three possible interpretations of the Arabic words maghriba alshshamsi in 18:86 and matliAAa alshshamsi in 18:90 have been claimed: 1)The west and the east 2)The time when the sun sets and the time when the sun rises 3)The place where the sun sets and the place where the sun rises. Dhul-Qarnayn and the Sun Setting in a Muddy Spring (Part One) (link for in depth explanation of these verses) Now, in the end, you might ask what the point of saying such a verse is? I don't know. I can make give an explanation based on my own reasoning: One explanation would be that perhaps there were (or still are?) people who had the same stories and legends in regards to this figure. By them hearing the same thing being mentioned in the quran, it would facilitate their conversion to Islam and increase their faith. There are verses in the quran that no one really knows the true meaning of, and humanity maybe never will until the end of times (I don't know, this one's just my uninformed opinion). For example, 5 verses which make (more) sense to us now as opposed to the past are: ظَهَرَ الْفَسَادُ فِى الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ أَيْدِى النَّاسِ لِيُذِيقَهُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِى عَمِلُوا لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْجِعُونَ "Corruption has appeared throughout the land and sea by [reason of] what the hands of people have earned so He may let them taste part of [the consequence of] what they have done that perhaps they will return [to righteousness]." 30:41 (pollution) وَالسَّمَآءَ بَنَيْنٰهَا بِأَيْٮدٍ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ "And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander." 51:47 (Expansion of the universe) وَجَعَلْنَا السَّمَآءَ سَقْفًا مَّحْفُوظًا ۖ وَهُمْ عَنْ ءَايٰتِهَا مُعْرِضُونَ "And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away." (21:32) (the sky protects us from the sun's ultraviolet radiation and comets) وَهُوَ الَّذِى خَلَقَ الَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّ فِى فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ "And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming." (21:33) (moons revolve around their planets in an orbit. Planets and their moon(s) revolve around the sun in an orbit. Our solar system moves around the milky way in orbit etc.) وَمِنْ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ خَلَقْنَا زَوْجَيْنِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَذَكَّرُونَ "And of all things We created two mates (((i.e. pairs))) ; perhaps you will remember." 51:49 (This isn't referring to reproduction, because some organisms reproduce asexually (they do so by having the pair of reproducing organs in them). Male & female, positive and negative, light & darkness etc. all in pairs) Some people say that you must take the quran literally as opposed to figuratively. For example: وَمَآ أَنْتَ بِهٰدِ الْعُمْىِ عَنْ ضَلٰلَتِهِمْ ۖ إِنْ تُسْمِعُ إِلَّا مَنْ يُؤْمِنُ بِئَايٰتِنَا فَهُمْ مُّسْلِمُونَ "And you cannot guide the blind away from their error. You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses so they are Muslims [in submission to Allah]." 30:53 In this verse, it is clear that 'blind' doesn't refer to people who's eyes don't function, but it refers to people who don't accept the truth. Hence, in this verse the definition is figurative. (I know this isn't related to your question, I added it in because some people say that Muslims bend the truth to match what they want to believe. Sometimes that is true, sometimes not) On another note, you will see that in all (?) translations, the translator adds words in brackets. In most cases, that's because otherwise the translation would be difficult to read and understand. In verse 86 however, they added [as if]. I believe the reason they did that is because in the same verse it is said ‘he found it’, which in English is usually followed by as if, but in Arabic that is not the case, yet the meaning is implied. If you want to truly understand the quran, I'd say the best option is learning Arabic.
All wrong, when Allah said :HE the person Allah was speaking about, he saw or found the sun setting in a pool or what ever, it means that IT APPEARED TO HIM TO BE SETTING IN MUDDY WATER. Allah never said the sun sets in a pool. Now can you tell me since the sun is responsible for night and day, how did the first 3 days of creation happe when the sun was created on the 4th day? Lolz thats the kinda crap you all should TRY to rectify. Goid luck. Emotional and wrong answers now:
Thanks - amazing logical explanation - hope you have a matching presentation in Arabic
@adam almasri is an idiot. Waste of time. He could not understand the simple fact that the Quran is just stating what Zulqarnain saw in verse he quoted. It is not stating a scientific fact. Read the statement below of Allah Quran surah 21 verse 33 says وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلَّيْلَ وَٱلنَّهَارَ وَٱلشَّمْسَ وَٱلْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّۭ فِى فَلَكٍۢ يَسْبَحُونَ And Allah is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon, each travelling in an orbit. Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam says about the sun “It is going in a non-stop regular motion. It does not cease or disappear. It sets in one place and rises in another, so that some people would say it has set and other would say it has just risen (at the same moment).” Ref: Musnad Abi Ishaq El Hamdani Even today we can see the sun setting & rising in water. kzhead.info/sun/maqipZpth36HpI0/bejne.htmlfeature=shared
This is the most detailed video on this topic I have seen yet. I was debating this with a muslim 2 days ago. He used every excuse to try to convince me I was wrong. He failed and got frustrated, then I never heard from him again...lol.
Please see about me for another very good one.
show me.@@chr_my
@@avalancheofapostasy4916 Just see my about, it's there.
@@chr_mygot 1 for me?
Zul Qurnain thought the earth was flat and he went exploring land to land to see where the sun set, and what he saw appeared so
al-lah (aka. medieval Arabs - the creators of islam) thinks the Earth is flat.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Quraan mentions otherwise.@@fitzburg63
@@fitzburg63whos Al-lah
@@dzdraco19You tell me.
@@fitzburg63 I don’t know what ur talking about
This is some good work mate. In the world of Izlam any rule can be broken to save it. Subbing mate 👍
There is in verse quran that says that sky would fall down to earth if Allah did not hold it وَيُمْسِكُ ٱلسَّمَآءَ أَن تَقَعَ عَلَى ٱلْأَرْضِ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِهِۦٓ ۗ
Sky doesn't exist 😭
The verse doesn't say the "sky" but rather the heavens (anything that is above the earth). Which means that since the earth is in orbit, and because of gravitational forces, objects above do not come crashing down on earth, since if there was no gravity to hold everything, the planets and starts would crash chaotically. Don't put your own ignorance in the verse and claim that this is what the verse is saying.
Adam please continue asking the questions. Any faith must stand up to scrutiny
I was a Muslim, but now I see eastern philosophies, especially Buddhism, are far more sensible
You’ve never been a Muslim kufr.
Buddhism is fundamentally flawed because of it's tenet: There is suffering in this world and the reason why suffering exists is because there is desire. To get rid of desire and attain salvation one has to follow the eightfold path and achieve a state of abandoning desire and thus the soul frees itself from the cycle of rebirths.. Here is the problem with that philosophy. Even to achieve salvation one has to desire it. That's where the flaw lies- at its base. Buddha never preached the existence of God. In Dalai llama's own words Buddhism is an atheistic religion. Anything that begins to exist has a cause. The universe began to exist. Therefore, the universe has a cause. There was no time, space or matter before the universe began. To cause matter, space, and time to come into existence there has to be an uncaused cause which is not contained by space, or made of matter or bound by time; and it has to be a power and intelligence with no limits and it's got to be personal. This power beyond which we cannot think of anyone is God, who is a spirit. However, if there is no God and if all that exists is matter then why should there be a soul? Why should there be the cycle of birth and rebirths? Why adopting the Eight fold path one can free oneself from the cycle of birth and rebirths? That is not conversant with a material world. Those are self defeating aspects of Buddhism.
only atheism is the truth.
you are then secular,and lagging,resvratral in merlots killed the rest,you are without, dead.
@@skarmat every religious cult is flawed, because there is no god at all, it is theists' illusion only.
Thanks to the internet many more people can compare the many texts without having to consult ancient texts and books dispersed in distant libraries. This is a completely new situation which never existed before. Same for comparison of texts which exist in numerous variations. Translation programs helping.
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
ادم انا حاولت استخدام العين الحمئة للاحتجاج على المسملين فجاءوني برواية في كتاب العظمة نص الرواية(حدثنا أبي، ثنا سلمة بن شبيب، ثنا إبراهيم بن الحكيم بن ابان حدثني، أبي عن عكرمة قال: سعة الشمس سعة الأرض كلها وزيادة ثلاث) يقولون ان هذه الرواية تشير الى ان الناس في ذلك الزمان يعرفون ان الشمس اكبر من الارض فمن غير المعقول انهم فهموا من اية العين الحمئة على ان الشمس فعلا تغرب في عين حمئة ما رأيك بصراحة لم اعرف كيف ارد ؟
هل تحققت من السند لأنني لم أسمع بهذا الحديث قبلا وهل صحح هذا الحديث أحد من شيوخهم ثم قد يكون هذا الحديث مع هذا السند مختلق فعليك التحري ثم الحديث خطأ علمي لأن الشمس أكبر من الأرض 109 ضعف في قطرها فهو في النهاية ضدهم
@@su-35-ou3nq الحديث ضعيف لديهم لكن الرواية عن عكرمة وليس محمد فمن الطبيعي ان يكون قد اخطأ فهو يقول ان الشمس اكبر من الارض، حجة المسلمين هي ان الناس في زمن محمد لديهم فكرة عن ان الشمس اكبر من الارض فمن غير المعقول انهم فهموا من الاية انها فعلا تغرب في عين حمئة
@@syl_10 هل لدينا تفسير يشير الى أن ذو القرنين تراءت له أن الشمس تغرب في عين حمئه بالقرون الأولى للاسلام الاجابه لا فهذا يشير الى انهم لم يكن لديهم هذا الفهم وانه أتى لاحقا ان الشمس أكبر من الارض والا لعدلوا على التفسير ليطابق القرأن العلم وطالما الحديث ضعيف فلا يستطيعون القول ان هذا ما قاله عكرمه الذي عاصر زمن محمد
Then why nowhere in early islam nobody Say about it ? Its just all recent escuses made now science is deeply instored
I just love your work, you do a lot's of research before making any video👌
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
@adam almasri is an idiot. Waste of time. He could not understand the simple fact that the Quran is just stating what Zulqarnain saw in verse he quoted. It is not stating a scientific fact. Read the statement below of Allah Quran surah 21 verse 33 says وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلَّيْلَ وَٱلنَّهَارَ وَٱلشَّمْسَ وَٱلْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّۭ فِى فَلَكٍۢ يَسْبَحُونَ And Allah is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon, each travelling in an orbit. Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam says about the sun “It is going in a non-stop regular motion. It does not cease or disappear. It sets in one place and rises in another, so that some people would say it has set and other would say it has just risen (at the same moment).” Ref: Musnad Abi Ishaq El Hamdani Even today we can see the sun setting & rising in water. kzhead.info/sun/maqipZpth36HpI0/bejne.htmlfeature=shared
Just thinking about it rationally, it is an absurd argument to suggest "Allah didn't mean what He wrote". If this particular verse caused a believer any confusion and ultimately lead them to question Islam further and eventually leave, then it would be the fault of the author.
@adam almasri is an idiot. Waste of time. He could not understand the simple fact that the Quran is just stating what Zulqarnain saw in verse he quoted. It is not stating a scientific fact. Read the statement below of Allah Quran surah 21 verse 33 says وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلَّيْلَ وَٱلنَّهَارَ وَٱلشَّمْسَ وَٱلْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّۭ فِى فَلَكٍۢ يَسْبَحُونَ And Allah is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon, each travelling in an orbit. Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam says about the sun “It is going in a non-stop regular motion. It does not cease or disappear. It sets in one place and rises in another, so that some people would say it has set and other would say it has just risen (at the same moment).” Ref: Musnad Abi Ishaq El Hamdani Even today we can see the sun setting & rising in water. kzhead.info/sun/maqipZpth36HpI0/bejne.htmlfeature=shared
well said. That's always what I think when I find a contradiction or a totally non-sensical statement in religious books.
While Quran said "It is a clear book"
Good explanation, I just wished you would show the sources you used and maybe even link us up.
I will aim to add the sources I displayed on the screen in the description box under the video in a day or two
I think me most interesting source would be the Hadith since all the other sources are in fact easier to look up You literally mention the Quran Verse and the information about Oceanus and Ra etc shouldn’t be difficult to find (but a source would be nice) Hadith sources are more annoying to look for
@@AdamElmasriEnglishwhere can these be found? They still dont seem to be in the description box
Great job Brother.. Blessings.
Fantastic explanation!!
Very well explained indeed !
Glad you think so!
@AdamElmasriEnglish Still waiting for your response ‼️‼️
@@AdamElmasriEnglishi will clarify a few things, firstly the verbs of this verse are in past . Secondly this verse 18:83 "They will ask thee of Dhu'l-Qarneyn. Say: "I shall recite unto you a remembrance of him.", just before the verse of the video, talks about jews people came to the prophet and asked him about Dul Qarnayn, so its not a story came with quran thats why Helios or Egyptians is not really an argument. the quran talks about what Dul Qarnayn saw and not a reality fact. the question is, does Dul Qarnayn know that the sun is on orbit ? if he doesnt, WAJADA can be translated as appeared for him, thats for us because we know the reality but for him WAJADA is found because for him its the reality. Allah talks in the point of view of Dul Qarnayn and not his. But in the next verses Allah is talking about himself: verse 39:5 "He created the heavens and the earth for a purpose. He wraps the night around the day, and wraps the day around the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He is truly the Almighty, Most Forgiving." , "And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each travelling in an orbit.". in this verses Allah is talking about the real movement of the sun and his position of the sun. But Allah never says that the sun setting in a spring of mudy water is a fact, he is saying that Dul Qarnayn found it like that. talking about the sahaba, they interpret the verse with their own knowledge and for them it doesnt matter if its what DulQarnayn found or not because for them its the reality. that shows that they dont understand some fact in the quran and its normal, the book is not a scientific book and they cant make scientifical conclusion of things they dont know.
Why would Allah specifically use an ambiguous word if it claims a clear and detailed message?
Literally the entirety of Quran. I left Islam after reading Quran
You nailed it, same applies on a broader scale. Why would allah use arabic to reveal a detailed, perfect and uncorrupted revelation when that very language can be ambigious and hardly translated? Therefore it is not suited for the masses that want to understand the "one true religion". Which is why, whenever muslims hide behind the excuse, of you not knowing arabic when debating, they shoot themselves in the foot, admitting the "one true religion" can only be understood in arabic and therefore isnt for everyone. Fun fact: around 90% of muslims dont know arabic themselves.😂
The Quran claims to be both clear and detailed , but also that some verses will be incomprehensible to us , and some not, and it does not tell you which verse is which . So you might imagine an apparently "clear" verse is comprehensible to you , but you can't know that.
@@tdsdave it's just too contradictory
@@tdsdave Which exactly proves my point thank you😂
Wooooooooow your a GENIUUUUUUUUS!!!!!! You just helped me understand what I have found these days!!! I found the sun setting on the sea then the next day I found it rising behind the mountain!! Your comprehension is beyond this universe. I dont even think you know what "Balagah"means.
Thank you for your work hopefully it will get acknowledge for it value
Hi, you missed another important reason. Reason no:4, all tafsirs written by muhmed's real followers (muslims who lived with him and top scholars/apologists lived till 1200AD) confirmed sun setting in muddy water. All tafsirs written in the period from muhmed till 1200AD says sun sets in muddy water. It clearly shows everyone believed sun setting in muddy water. Now who can claim to know arabic better than them (muhmed and his real followers)????
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We gotta get this video lots of exposure!
From the bible “Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the campaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?”(KJV, Deuteronomy 11:30)
In ancient mythology and cosmology, there are various stories and motifs that involve the depiction of distant or mythical lands, sometimes described as dark, mysterious, or treacherous. However, the specifics of these stories vary greatly across different cultures and traditions. In Greek mythology, for example, there are tales of distant lands such as the realm of Hades, the underworld, which was often depicted as a dark and gloomy place. Additionally, the Greeks had stories of mythical islands or lands located at the edge of the world, such as the Island of the Blessed or the Hyperborea, but these were not typically described as having muddy or dark beaches. In Egyptian mythology, the concept of a distant or mythical land is less prevalent, although there are mentions of the Duat, the underworld realm through which the sun god Ra traveled during the night. However, the Duat was not typically depicted as having muddy or dark beaches. It's important to note that ancient mythologies often contain symbolic and metaphorical elements, and the descriptions of distant or mythical lands should be understood within the context of their cultural and religious significance. The specific depiction of a muddy and dark beach at the far end of the earth is not a commonly attested motif in ancient Egyptian or Greek mythology. Congratulations Adam you officially. Debunked nothing but yourself.
So you accuse Quran story only as symbolic? Adam story in the garden just symbolic? Lot story just symbolic Abraham story just symbolic Abrahah elephant destroyed by stone from hell carried by abaabil just symbolic Hijab is just symbolic you started to doubt everything in Quran merely symbolic While Quran say it is a clear book?
@@user-vz3pd3nh4t it is a clear book. But Egyptians and Greeks clearly didn’t believe there was a dark beach and the sun set there. Even if it was we know that Dhul Qarnain might’ve told these people way back that he found the sun setting in such a place again this is not an scientific error in the book this clearly shows the perspective of dhul qurnain. The Quran won’t say he found it setting there (oh but wait the sun actually doesn’t set in the water and starts giving a whole scientific explanation that’s not the goal of the Quran)
Great explanation. There is one more point I feel. If the Quran is not talking about the actual place of sunset, there was no need to mention that Dulkarnain saw a sunset. That would be a completely random detail to insert.
Very well explained, I would love few more Arabic grammar lessons
Thank you, I will… once I get enough funding for the channel - I will aim to produce much more
@@AdamElmasriEnglish Thanks so much, sooon i will become your patron..
@AdamElmasriEnglish OH.... So it's all about "FUNDING" i.e Easy money ⁉️‼️🤔🤔🤔 Because you know all the Christians are gonna support you and you gonna make "SUM" money ‼️‼️👍 Since attacking another religion other than Islam , isn't gonna BENEFIT you nor make you enough money or maybe none at all ‼️‼️🤭🤭🤭
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf Don't you pay to your muslim Utubers and sheikhs for their LIES and FAKE INTERPRETATIONS that make you feel better abt. your Satanic cult of islam?
be kind to him brother and do not argue. Many of the so-called scholars before him already reverted to Islam.
May God bless you more in Jesus Name brother Adam
the bible says the earth has 4 corners and edges and stands on pillars that if shaken cause earth quakes
Aphelion Phenomenon is when the sun moves away a certain distance from earth. Explaining this Phenomenon without the technicalities in the 6th century or so, the Quraan states the sun runs onto a place for it and that is the measuring. We now know more in detail this happens around 5th or 6th mid year
Source?
@@henktmmr Source -> the stupidity of muslims.
وجدها as in he found it, described from the view of dul karnin , and if you were to see the sunsetting near an ocean youd notice that it does look like its setting into the ocean as in you cant follow the sun so you end up being on the edge of a land just like dul karnian, and regarding the sahaba they argued if it was hot or murky but they never said the sun sets in an a muddy pool and of course you didnt read their mind, and quit comparing English translations with the language that the quran came in, arabic has way more synonyms with its words and the translations are just a guide for those who dont arabic so they can still read the quran, this is like reading the bible in English when its originally not even English
Did you even watch the whole video? I addressed your entire comment!
@@AdamElmasriEnglishkzhead.infopuS6NKAcyHQ?si=I9KIYaHiqH8XclJ2
Great, much appreciated your work Adam. Love from Saudi Arabia 😊👍🏻
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
Wow, it takes a really intelligent brain to be a non-Muslim in Saudi Arabia
Yo Adam is back
Excellent analysis! Thanks.
Who said Dhul Qarnayn was Alexender the Great? What does the arabic translation say?
If you read the entire Surah Al Kahf, this is the story of Dhu Al Qarnayn, who travelled to the "point of sun set" and the "point of sunrise" and also between two mountains. The focus of the story is him giving warning to the people living in all these places about Judgement day, asking them to believe in Allah and do good deeds. In many tafseer I've read, one verse talking about the setting point of the sun and the next verse talking about the rising point of the sun, and then the "between the mountains" refers to the fact that he travelled East, West, far and wide wherever he could go... to give Dawah to the people. I love how when debating the "authenticity" of the Qur'an these people bypass the actual purpose of the surahs and debate useless semantics. The actual story of someone travelling far and wide to deliver the message of the oneness of God... message of the Prophets... what a beautiful narration and people are stuck debating semantics.
It's a sweet sentiment but the Qur'an does not support your position. These stories come from the pre-Islamic "Alexander Romance" novel to which is attached "The Alexander Legends" written in the Syriac language. They are fables. In the Qur'an, "Allah" frequently condemns the Quraysh for pointing out that what he has "revealed" are just ancient fables. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Alexander_Legend kzhead.info/sun/lNqPp7ykaJuFe4E/bejne.html
@@elainejones5473Zul qarnayn isn't Alexander and is most likely Cyrus the great since Cyrus also was the king of two kingdoms
let them be.. the fact that this kind of discussions make one's faith to Islam stronger.. please do one thing brother.. please do not belittle others' faith.. as Muslim.. this is all my request to you..salamualaikum..
@@hryhry4922if it make one faith stronger.... you should share with your friends then
Thanks Adam!! This should set their argument in the mud.
They will deny any truth - islam is the cult of lie, truth is its destroyer.
Why focus on verses that haven't been found scientifically, or needs a certain way to understand it (metaphor, etc). Adam, what about * water cylce in the Quran? Are there any other books talking about it before Quran? * Colorful mountains that have been found in China, etc. * Underwater Volcano etc, 1400 years ago, there were no underwater camera, usg, satellite, or drone. How could prophet Muhammad know them all?
i will clarify a few things, firstly the verbs of this verse are in past . Secondly this verse 18:83 "They will ask thee of Dhu'l-Qarneyn. Say: "I shall recite unto you a remembrance of him.", just before the verse of the video, talks about jews people came to the prophet and asked him about Dul Qarnayn, so its not a story came with quran thats why Helios or Egyptians is not really an argument. the quran talks about what Dul Qarnayn saw and not a reality fact. the question is, does Dul Qarnayn know that the sun is on orbit ? if he doesnt, WAJADA can be translated as appeared for him, thats for us because we know the reality but for him WAJADA is found because for him its the reality. Allah talks in the point of view of Dul Qarnayn and not his. But in the next verses Allah is talking about himself: verse 39:5 "He created the heavens and the earth for a purpose. He wraps the night around the day, and wraps the day around the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He is truly the Almighty, Most Forgiving." , "And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each travelling in an orbit.". in this verses Allah is talking about the real movement of the sun and his position of the sun. But Allah never says that the sun setting in a spring of mudy water is a fact, he is saying that Dul Qarnayn found it like that. talking about the sahaba, they interpret the verse with their own knowledge and for them it doesnt matter if its what DulQarnayn found or not because for them its the reality. that shows that they dont understand some fact in the quran and its normal, the book is not a scientific book and they cant make scientifical conclusion of things they dont know.
@@libanibrahim8137 Can you tell us who's Dhu alqarnine?
@@ahmedbrahimi-hk4dy you can find it easily on the web.
Dear brother Adam, can you make a video explaining Sura 9:31? Thanks.
وجده means to find something not it appeared , The word for appear is شبه as it is in verses saying it appeared to people that they killed Jesus . .
Thank you for this insightful video. Your work is indeed remarkable in exposing lies about the Quran , spread by Muslim apologists.
if you believe this stuff, you should go back to school
@@kolavithonduraski5031 school is a place to learn about nature of reality through the disciplines, such as physics, chemistry biology, not silly made up stories by people from thousand years ago. Quran is nothing more than the plagiarized work of Jews & Christians - in addition to sex life of Muhammad & some idiotic false claims.
@@kolavithonduraski5031Refute the argument, coward!! You don't need to go back to school, you need to go to a psychiatric ward
Very professional video highly impressed
Glad you liked it!
@@kyss231 Hilariously funny 😄.. You actually said the Religion of “TRUTH” now that is very funny 😄 indeed.. Come off it @kyss231 .. Islam is a Hoax a total fraud.. The early Arabic didn’t even have the diacritics that it does today..
The true miracle is how despite all of these obvious mistakes they are still 1,4 Bilions. 😢
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE.... FROM MYTH VISION
It's called the miracle of re interpretation. Or TAQQIYA..
As the saying goes - "Without LIES islam DIES".
i will clarify a few things, firstly the verbs of this verse are in past . Secondly this verse 18:83 "They will ask thee of Dhu'l-Qarneyn. Say: "I shall recite unto you a remembrance of him.", just before the verse of the video, talks about jews people came to the prophet and asked him about Dul Qarnayn, so its not a story came with quran thats why Helios or Egyptians is not really an argument. the quran talks about what Dul Qarnayn saw and not a reality fact. the question is, does Dul Qarnayn know that the sun is on orbit ? if he doesnt, WAJADA can be translated as appeared for him, thats for us because we know the reality but for him WAJADA is found because for him its the reality. Allah talks in the point of view of Dul Qarnayn and not his. But in the next verses Allah is talking about himself: verse 39:5 "He created the heavens and the earth for a purpose. He wraps the night around the day, and wraps the day around the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He is truly the Almighty, Most Forgiving." , "And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each travelling in an orbit.". in this verses Allah is talking about the real movement of the sun and his position of the sun. But Allah never says that the sun setting in a spring of mudy water is a fact, he is saying that Dul Qarnayn found it like that. talking about the sahaba, they interpret the verse with their own knowledge and for them it doesnt matter if its what DulQarnayn found or not because for them its the reality. that shows that they dont understand some fact in the quran and its normal, the book is not a scientific book and they cant make scientifical conclusion of things they dont know. @@normalisoverrated
Criticizing Islam is not bad thing, bcz we learn new things and find new perspectives to look at things if they have any rationale.
Good on you!
"Criticizing Islam is not bad thing" - Unless you're in the Middle East, then you're at risk of being murdered by demented mobs.
Adam Elmasri @AdamElmasriEnglish. Have you come across the story of expedition that was sponsored by the Abbasid Caliphate that sends some people to find the location where Dhu al-Qarnayn found the sun setting or to find the location where the sun sets? That story seem to indicate that even at the time of that Caliphate there is the belief that there is a place where the sun sets.
They could ask the Greeks.
@@fitzburg63 I wish you read my comments.
Maybe I will answer all these questions and errors through research. You maybe right because of translation errors. Very respectfully😊 because it is my research in revealed and required knowledge. But it will take time from me.
Islamic apologists say this “ Quran is not a scientific book but a spiritual and moral book !” 😂😂 Not scientific and not moral , That’s what I say . 😂
What a intelligent discovery
According to you
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
@@uthman2281 what according to u???
"Do not argue with the People of the Book except in the best manner, unless with those of them who transgress [against you"
My post, A Short Note on 'Found' S 18:86 Until when he reached the setting place of the sun he found it setting in a muddy spring and found by it a people. We said: Dhul Qarnayn, either you torture or you take them with goodness. S 18:89-90 Then he followed a cable Until when he reached the rising place of the sun he found it rising on a people whom we had not made a shelter against it for. S 18:93 Until when he reached between the two bars he found a people instead of them not almost comprehending speech. Did he think that he found the sun setting in a muddy spring? Did he think that he found people by it? Did he think that he found the sun rising on people? Did he think that he found people who could barely comprehend speech? Dhul-Qarnayn and the Sun Setting in a Muddy Spring (Part One) - WikiIslam Islam and the Setting of the Sun Muhammad on the Setting Place of the Sun Dhu’l Qarnayn and the muddy spring in Qur’an 18:86 - New evidence | quranspotlight
Good job brother Adam. We all should share this video to everyone. God bless you brother Adam ❤✝️
Japan is called Land of Raising Sun....so by this false preacher conclusion nobody has ever visited Japan.
@@keksi6844 I know everything goes over the head of a Muslim cuz y'all believe that sun sets in murky water and that there are 72 virgins in heaven as if heaven is some kind of a brothel 🤦 we can expect no good from you guys that's for sure.
@@keksi6844 What does that have to do with the quran stating that the sun sets in a muddy pool where there are people nearby?
@keksi6844 Has nothing to do with quarans scientific errors....
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
I hope my recent stream on Dhul Qarnayn was helpful on this topic at Reasoned Answers.
I like your videos, very instructive and unbias
Glad you like them! Thank you for your support
Hello brother long time no hear, from the Philippines.
Explanation : Taquiya, Muda'rat...
Ali Dawah: the argument of scientific miracles in the Quran is absolute nonsense….
Debunked!
The Quran says the universe was created from big bang and that the universe will be returned as scribe who rolls up his scrolls which scientists refer to as big crunch
Holy Quran, Ya-Seen 36:40. It is not for the sun to catch up with the moon, nor does the night outrun the day. Each is travelling in an orbit of their own. The sun is not allowed to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each floats in their own orbit.
This makes it worse
This make it clear not worse . Use your brain
Allahu is Muhammad's creation for all his personal needs and Desires,, if he want anything,, he is delivering message in the name of Allah,,, infact both are one.
this was very well presented, well done Adam
I am a Muslim, and I believe that the translation may not be an exact word-for-word rendering. The correct phrase should be "he found it." However, it's important to note that when we discuss the Quran in this context, we are not referring to the story of Dhul-Qarnayn but rather the Quranic verses related to the sun. Let's explore what the Quran says about the sun: In Surah Yasin (36:38), it is stated: "And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing." There are two different interpretations regarding the meaning of the phrase "لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَـا" ("on its fixed course for a term (appointed)"): 1. The first interpretation suggests that it refers to the sun's fixed location, which is beneath the Throne, positioned beyond the Earth in that direction. Wherever the sun goes, it remains beneath the Throne, along with all of creation, as the Throne is considered the roof of creation. 2. The second interpretation proposes that this phrase signifies the end of the sun's appointed time, which will occur on the Day of Resurrection. At that time, the sun's fixed course will cease, it will come to a halt, and it will be rolled up. This world will come to an end, marking the conclusion of its appointed time. This signifies the predetermined course of the sun's existence. It's worth noting that Ibn Mas`ud and Ibn `Abbas, may Allah be pleased with them, recited this verse as: "وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لَامُسْتَقَرَّ لَهَا" ("And the sun runs with no fixed course for a term"), suggesting that the sun has no specific destination or fixed place; rather, it continuously moves day and night without slowing down or stopping. This interpretation aligns with other Quranic verses that emphasize the sun's constant motion, such as in Surah Ibrahim (14:33): "And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses, to be of service to you." This indicates that the sun and the moon never slow down or stop until the Day of Resurrection. Furthermore, the Quran also mentions that all celestial bodies, including the sun, move in orbits: "They all float, each in an orbit." In summary, these Quranic verses provide insights into the nature and movement of the sun, which can be seen as consistent with modern scientific understanding.
There is a verse in the Quran that Earth was created in four days exactly, for anyone who asks. So, Allah knew people would ask how long it took for Earth to be created, and the answer is: four days exactly. That does not seem to be very scientific or accurate. It looks more like humans were authors of the Quran.
For the brilliant, educated and enlightened Muslims to know the truth, they should find answers to the following questions and try to understand what the secular scholars and researchers have to say about it 1. How many centuries after the death of Prophet Mohammed the Quran was written down and how many Qurans were in circulation before it was standardized?...Where is the real quran now? 2. Were the contents of the Quran copied from any other ancient texts? (Christian, Jewish, Pagan, local myths and fables etc.) 3. Was there one or more than one Mecca? and where is the real Mecca? 4. What is the truth behind the Zam Zam well? 5. What is the real history of kaba? and who built it? 6. Do history, archeology, and science support the claims of Islam? 7. What is satanic verses and why is it important for the understanding of Islam? 8. 'Without lies, ...... dies' - about which religion it is said and why? 9. One of the major functions of a Prophet is to prophecy. What are the prophecies by 'Prophet' Mohammed and what are the ones that were really fulfilled? And What is the real name of Prophet Mohammed and what does it mean? 10. Are Muslims really the descendants of Abraham and if not, who really are they and what history says about it? 11. Who are the members of trinity? 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit' or 'God, Jesus, and Mary', as 'revealed' to Prophet Mohammed by Allah, recorded in the Quran, and believed by the Muslims? 12. What about Prophet Mohammed 's flying visit to the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Did he really visit the temple and what is the evidence for it? 13. What are the contrbutions made by Christians and jews vs. Muslims, for the benefit of mankind? 14. Is there any difference between a Muslim with exposure to western ideas, thoughts and education and one without any exposure to the same? If there is any difference, what is the reason for the difference and what is the basis for the western thoughts, educaton etc. that makes the difference? 15. I am giving below the names of some of the founders of modern religions and also the negative traits of ordinary humans. You decide for yourself who is the only person, who has all these traits a) Founders of modern religions: Gowthama Budha, Mahaveer Jain, Zorastar, Jesus Christ, Mohammed Nabi and Guru Nanak. b) Negative traits: Hatred, fanaticism, religious intolerance, violence, mass murder, womanizing, pedophilia, cunningness, coveteousness, mental imbalance, suicidal thoughts, dacoity, slave trading, ruthlessness, lieing and deception. 16. What is the history of the black stone and where was it before being placed in the quoba? 17. Who is Al Qudam and what does the name mean? 18. Muslims speak of the "atrocities'' committed by the Jews against the Prophet and his followers. But in fact, it is the Prophet who plundered a jewish village, slaughtering the men and taking away the women. There are many more atrocities like this. Now, ask yourself what are the atrocities committed by the jews. 19. Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the God of Prophet Mohammed and the Muslims (Allah) the same? If not, who is Allah and what is his origin? 20. How a religion that was started in Arabia, claims the God of the Jews, their scriptures, their prophets, their teachings, their way of life, their land, their doctrine, and their Holy places as its own? And what happened to the Jews, Christians, and the Pagans, the sons of the soil in the 6th century middle east, and who occupies their land now? Everyone has the right to believe or not to believe anything he or she wants But see to it that no one fools you in the name of religion and brainwash you to hate/harm your fellow humans.
Bro is missing the point. The sun doesn't move. It's the Earth that moves. If Muhammed was legit, he would have received a prophecy saying exactly that. The ie the Earth is round. God wouldn't have to lie about it because we would have eventually found out and by telling Muhammed, Muhammed would have been ahead of the game and that kind of info would also go a long way to showing that he is a true confidante. However, the way the verse currently is, it sounds ignorant in 2023. It might look wise back in the day but in 2023, you can only wonder how he got it so wrong. And you can't blame God cos he created the sun and he would have relayed the facts as is even if it was beyond the people of the time's comprehension. What does God have to gain about lying about something that will later be refuted when we got better scientific tools? Oh wait Muhammed also predicted that world will end 100 years after his death.
@@tombuddy100 The word used for days, doesn't actually translate to days. It translates to periods of times 'ayyam'
@@LionForIslam So, four unknown periods exactly?
It's about what zul qarnayin saw from his point of view, not what is literally true or fact
How can zulkarnain find something in reality which is impossible to happen and why does Allah mention his finding as a fact!
Thank you my dear brother, love from India
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING ! The Arabic language is so eloquent , it takes several English words to express the meaning of one Arabic word . the word " wajada " means to appear , to find , to get , to obtain or to hit upon , the word " Maghrib " is also present , it denotes time & place , The place here is Lychnitis , west of Macedonia , It is fed entirely by underground springs in a limestone region . where the water is never clear . That is why Allah says in the Quran " it appeared to +him " or " he found it setting in a murky spring " If I say " the Queen said 2 + 2= 5 " you cannot say " I said 2 + 2 = 5. The very words , sunrise & sunset are unscientific . the sun do not rise or set ., but yet everyday in the newspaper , Sunset at 6:00 pm, Sunrise at 5;00 am. iT'S JUST PEOPLE WITH LIMITED UNDERSTANDING WILL SEE MANY MISTAKES IN QURAN . This is why Allah swt says " SEEK KNOWLEDGE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE ".
Clearly you haven’t watched the video!!! I explained exactly in the video why your response doesn’t work
@@AdamElmasriEnglish My friend if u do the research you will read about the limestone region i Macedonia . And Allah never said the sun set in murky waters Ok So your entire video is based on a blatant lie .
@@shahadathkadirso if it doesn't say murky water, what does it say?
@@Superw0rrio Superman & Robin Hood are still alive in Hollywood
@@shahadathkadir ??? I don't even know what you're trying to argue.
Allah defeated by scientist Galileo. Allah said earth is flat in Quran 😂
" Those who disbelieve in the reminder when it comes to them are guilty , for indeed it is an unassailable Scripture . Falsehood cannot come at it from before or behind it , it is a revelation from the Wise , the Owner of Praise ". 41 : 41-42. " Praise be to Allah ! who has revealed the Scripture unto his slave & has not placed therein , any crookedness , but made it straight ". 39 : 23
These stories come from the pre-Islamic "Alexander Romance" novel to which is attached "The Alexander Legends" written in the Syriac language. They are fables, just as the Quraysh pointed out when Muhammad first delivered them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Alexander_Legend kzhead.info/sun/lNqPp7ykaJuFe4E/bejne.html
"Sperms form in spinal cord" , this is still the best miracle of kuran and alla....
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Wooow!!! What a miracle!!!
If report to you my friend saw a flying elephant, does that mean I am the one who is saying that? ALLAH is telling the reader that Tho Al Quarrian saw the sun sets in a muddy pool, does that mean ALLAH is saying the sun sets in a muddy pool? Even a 4-year-old child will point to the person who made the mess and to the person who reported the mess. Are you telling me a 4-year child has more intelligence than you so called adults?
How you have Play Button?
Could it be that he actually did find the sun setting in the murkey water but instead of the actual sun, it was the reflection of the sun that he was looking at that the Quran was referring to which he saw on the water surface as the reflected light decreased??
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@@juliusbattens2563Allahu Akbar ❤
Very clearly the "setting point of the sun" is not a fixed location, but a relative location. Dhul Qarnayn traveled west until the sun had set, and with his eyes he saw the sun set as if it was descended into the waters, obviously it wasn't as the Quran is saying what he saw. After this, he proceeded to ride east until he reached a point where the sun rose. The very fact that the Quran says the sun set in the west, then he rode east and saw it rise, means that the noble Quran acknowledges that the sun orbits around earth. This standard makes it logically impossible for one to assert that the sun has a specific setting point, as it is traveling in an orbit. Since it is logically inconsistent to say that the sun orbits the earth and the sun has a specific point where it sets, it is completely erroneous to assert that the Quran says the sun sets in one specific area. In this way you deny the logically explanation, while accepting the illogical one, clearly displaying your bias. Respond to this please, I know you respond to comments.
Did you watch the entire video? Your comment implies that you have not!
@@AdamElmasriEnglish but we cannot say logically that there is a point where the sun sets when the Quran acknowledges the orbit of the sun. so it would be contradicting itself if it mean this. there are two different interpretations. one invalidates quran, one does not. I choose the one which does not
this is my problem with arabic, muslims often claim that Arabic is God's language but then you have a single word that can mean multiple things which allows you to escape from any argument
It's simple: Logic dictates either X or NOT X. There are abstract predicates which have a whole underlying set of fulfilling elements, but that's the point: They don't claim any particular. The quran claims mostly particulars.
First and foremost, it's important to recognize that the Quran is not a book of science, although you may come across some related verses. What you may not fully grasp is that the Quran was never meant to be translated. If it were merely translated, you would never truly comprehend its message. The Quran has been interpreted by various scholars, each influenced by their proficiency in the Arabic language, cultural background, and general knowledge. In Islamic belief, two core principles hold paramount importance: one's intention and the use of reason. As long as the earlier interpreters had sincere intentions, even if they made some errors, it is considered excusable. According to Islamic faith, Allah forgives those whose intentions were not to mislead or harm anyone. What's truly remarkable about the Quran is that, regardless of interpretation and language, the Arabic text remains unchanged and can always serve as a reference for verification. Much of the Quran is open to interpretation, and it must be understood in the context of the times we live in. The Quran provides people with the necessary tools to understand and live by its teachings. It explicitly encourages the use of intellect to grasp its message. To address your inquiries regarding the intersection of science and the Quran, it is imperative to engage in a thoughtful discourse with a knowledgeable Muslim fluent in Arabic. Furthermore, it is essential that the scientist possesses expertise in the specific subject matter under consideration
In fact, the popular notion that the Qur'an "remains unchanged" is inaccurate. There are more than 30 versions of the Qur'an, each with differences not only in the readings but in the skeletal text (rasm). Here are a couple of experts for you: one is a native Arabic speaker, just as you insist. Al Fadi is from Saudi Arabia. kzhead.info/sun/db2xqLWJpourpoE/bejne.html
Nice list of words you’ve got there
Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masood is "a knowledgeable MUFASSIROON" and expert in arabic language also they are Prophet companion All of them regard set in muddy water as LITERAL not perspective.... it is shameful that muslim nowadays think their quranic knowledge is better than prophet companion.
My friend , for argument sake , even if the word " Wajada " is translated as " found it " There is nothing unusual about this It is just like saying . " I opened the windows & found the sun setting on a hill ". The word " Wajada " can also be translated as " saw " This is figurative language , when you describe something by comparing it to something else . The words or phrases used don't have a literal meaning , it uses metaphors , allusions , similes , hyperboles & other examples to help describe the object you are talking about . The Quranic statement ( 18 :86 ) is clearly metaphorical . The non believers already knew about the expeditions , they were just testing the Prophet saw , & the Quran not only gave answers to all their questions but explained these in much detail . After hearing the answers to their questions , exactly as they had been told by the people of the books , the non believing Arabs quietly went away , dejected at their defeat
Allah was always there to fulfill Muhammad's sexual desire and killings but the fake Allah was absent when it was most needed, Muhammad's painful death due to poison. Actually real Allah punished him not only painful death but also his dear and near had unnatural death.
According to islamic written book sources, mohammad was killed for being a false prophet. False prophet means islam is false and allah is false god. SAHIH AL BUKHARI 4428 Narrated Aisha: the prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaybar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison". Prophet mohammad died the same way he prophesied if he was a false prophet. Surah 69:44-47 وَلَوْ تَقَوَّلَ عَلَيْنَا بَعْضَ الْاَ قَاوِيْلِ "And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] saying لَاَ خَذْنَا مِنْهُ بِا لْيَمِيْنِ "We would have seized him by the right hand;" ثُمَّ لَقَطَعْنَا مِنْهُ الْوَتِيْنَ "Then We would have cut from him the aorta." فَمَا مِنْكُمْ مِّنْ اَحَدٍ عَنْهُ حَا جِزِيْنَ "And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him."
Ha ha @@ndor1429 And Superman & Robin are still alive in Hollywood. Your god was born a Jew . with skin as dark amber & white woolly hair& was called Yeshua.. Who is this blue eyed , blonde hair , white man Name Jesus ?????? Your god shaves the hair on his legs & rides on a winged creature with 4 faces . " In that same day , the Lord will shave with a razor , with those from beyond the river , his head , the hair on his legs & will also remove his beard ". Isaiah. 7 :20 " Smoke went up from his nostrils & devouring fire from his mouth , coals were killed by it , He bowed the heavens also & came down with darkness under his feet . He rode up on a Cherubim ( Winged creature with the face of itself , a human , a lion & an eagle ) & flew ". Psalms. 18 :8 See how I show you proof ? Now you do the same
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I found out my Quran PC Software(Al-Quran Visual Impair), Surah Al-Kahf Ayat 86 is FOUND for both, Ayat 90 is FOUND and Ayat 93 is FOUND. Which Al-Quran Software is AL-Kahf Ayat 86 is APPEAR?
Without lies Islam will die
From the bible “Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the campaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?”(KJV, Deuteronomy 11:30)
@@AntiIslamicProblemChild islam is already dead
@@Muslim_Prince "Allah and muhmad" both are lies..
@@AntiIslamicProblemChild Are they not on the "OTHER SIDE" of Jordon, where the sun goes down, in than land of cannanites.....Any kindergarten kid would tell it's talking about something in the west direction..😂😂 Cope harder..
@@Muslim_Princehere you are: islam is the truth.
Hi Adam. Thank you for your video. It is the first time I came across your channel. You made some good points but it is not the full story. I have studied this story for over forty years and am planning to complete a book on it. Would you be interested if we held a discussion here to exhaust our knowledge to find the ultimate truth if this is an error in the Qur'aan or matter that will vindicate its authority of reality?
I would be very interested.. please reach out via email.
@AdamElmasriEnglish How am I to be blame when I'm ONLY QUOTING what the other person said❓️⁉️🤔🤔 i.e if someone said something (which could be scientifically wrong) and I'm ONLY QUOTING (word for word) whatever the person narrated , THEN how does that makes ME WRONG❓️⁉️🤔🤔🤔
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf Allah is not just reporting a story - Allah is reporting a discovery that his prophet made. Thesame way when Allah reports the account of other prophets, you muslims hold those statement as absolute truth, now you want to disassociate Allah from his prophet's falsehood. Remember you muslims believe that the prophet can't commit major sin. Allah reported the discovery as a fact that the end.
@changegreen1924 How is me reporting what someone else said to be "my own words"❓️⁉️🤔🤔
@@changegreen1924 i will clarify a few things, firstly the verbs of this verse are in past . Secondly this verse 18:83 "They will ask thee of Dhu'l-Qarneyn. Say: "I shall recite unto you a remembrance of him.", just before the verse of the video, talks about jews people came to the prophet and asked him about Dul Qarnayn, so its not a story came with quran thats why Helios or Egyptians is not really an argument. the quran talks about what Dul Qarnayn saw and not a reality fact. the question is, does Dul Qarnayn know that the sun is on orbit ? if he doesnt, WAJADA can be translated as appeared for him, thats for us because we know the reality but for him WAJADA is found because for him its the reality. Allah talks in the point of view of Dul Qarnayn and not his. But in the next verses Allah is talking about himself: verse 39:5 "He created the heavens and the earth for a purpose. He wraps the night around the day, and wraps the day around the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He is truly the Almighty, Most Forgiving." , "And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each travelling in an orbit.". in this verses Allah is talking about the real movement of the sun and his position of the sun. But Allah never says that the sun setting in a spring of mudy water is a fact, he is saying that Dul Qarnayn found it like that. talking about the sahaba, they interpret the verse with their own knowledge and for them it doesnt matter if its what DulQarnayn found or not because for them its the reality. that shows that they dont understand some fact in the quran and its normal, the book is not a scientific book and they cant make scientifical conclusion of things they dont know.
So if it’s incomprehensible why do so many people believe it and follow it. Surely it is a book to help people embrace that faith and follow what Allah wants you to do. How is that possible? If it’s in incomprehensible?
I would add that it just fits with the rest of the Islamic cosmology. What about the Sun rising from the west at the end of times? It just makes sense if there is a place somewhere in the west where it will rise from.
Without lies islam dies.
Haven't grown up from your early primary school years yet ? ?