Joe Rogan & Steve Rinella on Hunting Regulations

earlbond007 lol, this is joes hunting buddy. He has his own hunting show that joe has guest starred on multiple times

@@jacobmattsen2393 Which represents outdoorsmen and hunters, and he does it with an intellectual manner.

Jacob Mattsen that’s the point dumbass

Here's the thing though... A lot of hunters are like Steve. You don't see that sort of thing if you look at hunting videos from twenty or thirty years ago, but that's because most television from that time period was pretty vacuous. Outdoorsmen have always been very in tune with the issues, and have always possessed a much more in-depth knowledge of wildlife, and ecosystems. You'll be useless at hunting if you don't know more than the average person about trees and plants. Most city people go to a national park or forest and they only see the most obvious things. A mountain. Snow. Forest. The outdoorsman will be able to name more species of plant and animal in that area than anyone but the park officials for the area. The way they work together. What they provide for each other and how they are connected to produce an ecosystem. Steve isn't the exception, he just started producing outdoors programming for outdoorsmen, rather than the average channel flipper.

@@Neon_Caveman I agree

Pretty high key if ya ask me lol

@@conner6417 lol. This fucking "low key" bullshit is about the stupidest thing going. People just throw "low key" before a declarative statement for no reason whatsoever. It's maddening. I can understand if it is used properly as in "I am a low key Celine Dion fan" or w/e But the way it is used now is nonsensical almost every time. "George Washington was low key the first president" GTFOH

@@567dirt8910 Shut the fuck up

Walkinthecow dude u r a bum for writing this how’s the moms basement?

@@567dirt8910 Dude I low key understand exactly what you're saying. Phrases such as "low key" and "literally" are low key being used completely improperly and too much. It literally drives me crazy. The actual function of those phrases are low key stripped of their meaning when people literally use them every other sentence.

I aim to produce a system of food forests with irrigating flood ponds that have a positive ecological drip for conservation reasons Human stuff leaks out into the environment anyways so intentionally choose plants and ecology and animals that are local to the area Farming natively Like lionfish are invasive to florida, farm lionfish in their native place California where I live, and then there's these giant grow balls that he used and there's also a bunch of kelp forests off the coast so that can be harvested dried and then turned into fish food for lvl 1 consumers & feed predators that are farmed Having a trade in something means that it's conserved, like lions, California lion hunting isn't legal and they're actually able to be a problem There's also hogs throughout the America's and the world that need to be dealt with, ruining native ecologies and eating so many ground birds so so many ground birds So I'm even considering just going out to hunt them to help The ecology The red crayfish are invasive So in the flood ponds I'm thinking farm native crayfish to the area so that you can reestablish the population, crayfish will walk out of bodies of water to look for another one to migrate, so like I said ecological drip, choosing native plants native animals and native varieties keeping them and using their nutrients to supplement an area Like the oak trees of California are being ignored, there was a war that the people who lived in California fought for the oak trees, the tribes people So it's a source of ignored nutrents

Its a big problem, people who have always lived in the city and hardly ever been to a forest telling us not to hunt. They dont even know how out of control some places would get without hunting. Plus because of hunters game and wildlife can keep the parks running

@@owen1737 - and due to hunting some species have gone extinct!!!!

@@felipepineda1585 *unregulated

@@owen1737 i mean to be fair wildlife wouldn’t get out of hand bc people would just start shooting them dead on there properties bc humans will human but yeah i agree with you hunters are extremely important to balance everything out

this is his 5th or 6th time on the show just so you know

Finally cancelled my NFLX, and I never saw this side of Rinella until this and his GQ breakdown. I kinda like this elaboration more than the NFLX series anyhow.

Joe has went hunting wit Steve a few times and I love his show Meat Eater as well

Okok

Literally just started watching it yesterday. Never even heard of this guy before and I’m fucking obsessed

A lot of people still get their food that way in the country too.

ShittyWheelies of Coors they do !

@dan riley and then the a check shows up to pay for the calf that was killed but not eaten and the shoes get purchased. www.hcn.org/issues/50.12/wolves-when-cattle-go-missing-in-wolf-territory-who-should-pay-the-price

Not just the city but whoever got brainwashed by media

You're 100% correct. The worst thing is when these "city folk" who don't know anything about wildlife, decide that they know the best way to manage said wildlife. Their anti-hunting efforts has resulted is doing the exact opposite of what they think it's doing. Instead of having hunters and conservationists managing the land, they lose it because of bans like the ivory ban in 2016 that Joe has talked about. If these people don't own the land, aren't able to regulate and are unable to do anything about poachers, then you've just given the poachers a huge advantage. I don't know why is so difficult for people to understand that very simple fact. I don't know if they're indoctrinated to a point of no return, or if they're just stupid.

I find hunting and small farms more ethical and humane than mass commercial farming.

Yup, if you're a meat eater your anti-hunting rhetoric is void of validity.

Or any meat for that matter. It kinda bugs me when you see vegetarians eating sushi because "fish aren't really an animal". I've got two co-workers who hate it when I talk about hunting, etc and then they go eat fish for lunch. Something's gotta die so that we all survive.

Yes and it irritates me that they think by being anti hunting or vegan or vegetarian is not harmful to animals. Everything we do as people harms wildlife. Even if you are vegan it's harming wildlife, the land we use for agriculture harms wildlife the home you live in took land away from wildlife the car you drive, even us hiking in the woods disturbs and can harm wildlife.

Yea they buy factory farmed meat but they freak out about me going out and ethically killing a deer where it dies within seconds of being shot and I use as much of the meat as I can. It makes no sense.

I agree. Very articulate and well educated. Experienced hunter, educated, well rounded. Just a very smart man

I agree, even if he isn't as informed as he seems to someone far removed from these arguments.

@Cough It Up, what exactly isn't he informed of? Someone disagreeing with your argument doesn't make them uninformed. I am completely informed about the information other people use to base their arguments on but I can still think they are ridiculous and dismiss them.

He has a good vocab. He speaks very poorly. He pauses so long trying to form a thought it drives me crazy.

@@billzusner4873 no

@@billzusner4873 you should watch the elon podcast 😂

go hunt then learn the regulations get a hunter saftey course and got small game hunting with a shot gun or rifle. it isnt hard to get into if you start small

K....

@@zachkennedy9282 K thanks.

@@alfredangelici8294 , Shut up, fool! You're the "invasive species" not the animals.

@@GGreen-yf2xk well then go out woods without anything and let the animals eat you, remember you're part of an invasive species.

@@GGreen-yf2xk Define an "invasive species" for me. Maybe wolves came across the Bering Straits with the earliest human inhabitants of North America. That would make them immigrants. The fact is the earth and its biomass have always undergone constant change. We have evolved the ability to manage our environment to a great degree. With that ability comes responsibility. We have to decide what healthy populations are, and we can't do that without taking into account their effect on human activities as well.

@@killcancer6499 invasive species: a species not native to an area, becomes listed as invasive when it begins to do harm to populations of native species. Invasive species destroy habitat and wipe out indigenous species through competition or conflict. One could make the argument the agricultural societies are an invasive species. Hunter gatherer societies are usually not. If you live in a city you are already doing 1000% more harm to the environment than a country boy growing up in the woods eating hunted meat and home grown vegetables. Human infrastructure and modern agricultural practices are the number one cause of population decline in wild animals. Hunting is not.

@@rateromuerte2708 I think you have a good definition of an an invasive species. Here is the definition of the Minnesota DNR: Invasive species are species that are not native to Minnesota and cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health. Minnesota's natural resources are threatened by a number of invasive species such as zebra mussels, Eurasian watermilfoil, common buckthorn, and emerald ash borer. Invasive ... Since an invasive species can be one which causes economic it can be destructive to agriculture, husbandry or industry as well as the natural habitat. That is according to the DNR anyway.

@@joedaniels701 bro you win that was hilarious.

They have always been in that region in Montana.

I totally agree. Imagine having him in camp... the best wild game cook in the planet and a very skilled hunter. Fireside conversations with him would be so interesting. Minor no homo man crush lol

@@beardoggin8963 just admit it guys u wanna snuggle up in a sleeping bag with Rinella...its ok,we wont judge

Holy shit I just realized this is the guy off meat eater haha I’ve already hunted and cooked with him in a way!!

@@beardoggin8963 true

@@JamesSmullins This is one reason I have given some thought to hunting hogs. They are a nuisance.

@@rphxleonine the only good hog is a dead one.

Yep exactly 👍

@@JamesSmullins I find a good hog to be dead, seasoned and smoked for 6-8 hours.

Most people have no clue. Hunters and fishers care way more about wildlife than the average person. They want salmon runs to be strong and for big game to thrive. Our tags, licenses, and other fees do a great part in supporting Fish and Wildlife services whereas the average person doesn’t support these services at all.

Hes like if Rambo and matt damon had a baby

popeye sailor you should get ahold of some of Steve's books and give them a read. The man has a real talent for puting the great outdoors and wildlife to words and description.

Very wise

A very different sentence without that period lol! Steve is awesome

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I didn't realize some hunters apologize. Why would they be hunting if they are apologizing for it? lol.. nonsense

Oh yeah. My wife and I practically lived on deer meat when we were first starting out on our own.

I'd hardly call yourself a hunter. You're a tourist in the hunting world

Conor Larkin final result of too many children's cartoons and not enough experience

When someone asks me how could i murder an animal in cold blood i always ask them, how are the populations doing? What about predator populations? How much habitat is left? What about diseases? because i harvested and consumed that animal these are all things that now affect me directly. I always say the fastest way to take polutuon out of a river is have the people eat the fish swimming in it.

yeah like when hunting bison in the 1870s was for animal conservation or the hunting of wolves was for animal conservation or the hunting of wolverines was for animal conservation. I'm skeptical with that argument. It's not for animal conservation. it's for the primal experience of hunting something. saying it's for conservation is just to make people feel better about their hunt. and i think that's why people have that visceral reaction, it's understanding history and how humans have hunted many many animals to extinction and not trusting humans to do that responsibly nowadays because it's really never been done responsibly

Robert Morici if you knew anything about how the hunting system (at least in the US) you would understand that it is sustainable. Hunting is not “for conservation” but in order for recreational hunting to be possible for a long period of time ( which is what hunters want) healthy population levels need to be maintained, and therefore there are limits placed on the amount of any given animal that can be killed in a certain hunting season. Hunters want to be able to return every hunting season and at least have a sporting chance of killing an animal, therefore they know they can’t just hunt without limits and eliminate the population, because then there would be no animals left to hunt. In addition, interest in recreational hunting can be leveraged to maintain ecological balances in instances when populations of a certain species are too high relative to others. The reason hunting was unsustainable in the past was because it wasn’t a recreational hobby but usually an economic venture (e.g. the North American fur trade) or for survival.

Then what is the argument against not eating meat entirely then? Hunting is obviously the most ethical way to eat meat. But wouldn’t avoiding meat entirely be the most ethical?

i live in north central idaho, same here with the wolves. and i wish they'd quit calling it a "re-introduction". these wolves are nothing like the timberwolves we used to have here. and if these animal rights people gave a shit about wolves, they never would have allowed this introduction. these canadian gray wolves should have stayed in alberta where they wouldn't have been able to destroy our timberwolf, elk, moose, and caribou populations, not to mention all the damage they've done to livestock and pets. people have no idea. now grizzlies are on the rebound here, and it's going to end up the same way as montana and wyoming - a bigger predator pit than it already is. there is no balance in this.

Sort of similar situation in the Northern California coast range. Black bear populations have sky rocketed because of over regulation on hunting them (ie. you can’t use dogs to hunt them anymore), and the consequence is that the deer population has plummeted. The bear kill the fawn and the deer populations cannot recover. I’ve seen more bear while hunting those areas than I have deer during some years.

Game and Fish, Park Service, and US Fish and Wildlife all suppress information regarding grizzly bears, especially dangerous encounters with humans. This year a guy was attacked by a sow griz near Dubois while shed hunting and the bear drug him a considerable distance with the intent of feeding him alive to her sub adult cubs. He eventually got his hand free and drew his pistol and shot the bear in the head, killing it. All that was reported in the news about this was something like “upon investigation it has been determined to be a justified killing of a protected species.”🤫

Okok

@@lah67 How are they different? Are they much larger? What is the main difference causing an issue?

Oh shit I see it now lol he's the red headed stepchild that nobody's knows.

@@richb5478 red head?

@@prestynemmick1554 his hair is brown

@@prestynemmick1554 ive never heard of it, maybe i just live under a rock tho

I want your recipe on coots, because it’s something that needs to be managed if you like puddle ducks.

they are, this is the “clips” channel. Joe has 2

8 months later but I totally agree. I haven't studied up much about him myself but seems to be very articulate, and clearly intelligent. I have a dear friend that lives in Alaska and a single kill of his granted the ability to put food on his family's table for easily months. It's entirely possible to sustain and survive off the grid.

@@corywilliamsmith he is man. He's a nuanced thinker. IIRC he has a MA in Creative Writing from University of Montana. His books are worth reading big time

What's the situation like in Wis, Patrick? I live in the Southeast and know next to nothing about what you guys are up against. How hard are the wolves hitting the whitetail population?

Wolves eat deer. So?

@@jonpatterson7211 I'm from Minnesota, man I will tell you something. Wolves are pissing hunters off year round. We are having limited days on Deer season due to increasing amount of deers that are by killed or harvested by wolves. The only problem is that we can get wolf tags but it is so very difficult to obtain the tags to harvest the wolves in the northern part of Minnesota.

@@jaceforcelle6832 That's a recipe for disaster if I've ever heard one, Jace. What's the chance of a bunch of you guys getting together and getting your state senator to get something done?

@@jonpatterson7211 We can try, I haven't put efforts into it because even if we tried to have more tags, there would be the biggest anti-hunting protest.

I was not in to predator hunting until I grew up and saw the reasoning behind it. It is a balance for all animals.

Jimmy Rodriguez 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Hunt for a Bigfoot ???

Predator hunting is so so so much more important than any deer or elk hunt. The average coyote or mountain lion kills a deer or elk a week

Truet

Bubby Crow, I live in Minnesota as well. We used to see 40+ deer on opening weekend and haven’t seen that in years. I’ve even had wolves circling me walking to my stand in the morning. Everyone I’ve talked to about wolves is not happy. Letting things happen naturally is a teeter totter that takes years/decades to even out and that’s not even guaranteed. Hunting is the most efficient management tool at our disposal. It will generate more funding for conservation and start managing the levels of this awesome predator, because we are sure feeling the effects in Minnesota.

@fish mannthey are grey wolves and they are big. Alpha males typically weigh 120+ lbs. The problem that we run into in our area is the fact that they actually hunt for sport. Numerous people have found dead deer with only the guts eaten and they move on. In the spring the fawns are decimated between the wolves and coyotes.

Bad hunters, making excuses. Wolves are not whiping out our deer population. We filled all of our tags opener weekend. Stop it.

@@zachkuby87 I'm not saying that the wolves are killing all the deer. What I am saying is that when wolves move into an area, the deer leave. We had people 20 miles away from us that had an amazing season. Bad hunter is a dick thing to say. It's pretty tough to harvest deer that aren't there. I hope that you don't have a pack move into your hunting area prior to a season. Hopefully your ego can handle not seeing a single deer in a season. But then again, a great hunter like you can probably just make them appear out of the air. Tracks don't lie, we have had 3 sets of deer tracks in the snow throughout the entire season (probably the same deer) and countless wolf tracks some within 50 yards from my house. We have cattle, chickens, dogs and cats and hopefully the wolves move out before my animals are next on the menu because there is definitely no deer in our area for them to eat. If you haven't experienced something, maybe you should keep you judgements to yourself.

@@zachkuby87 I shot a trophy deer this year. We still fill tags like the most people the difference is the amount of deer that I am seeing now compared to years before. The population is definitely taking a hit and the wolves moving into the area is obviously making a difference and of course we have had a bad few winters not saying wolves are the only factor here.

But then he wants to cook the fish but he doesn't have an open fire permit

JonD lmao so true

How else would you propose that we fund management efforts then?

@@Slick_Ric_White my 2 cents was just a reup of a joke by a comedian. But since you ask I have a question back to you... if a man and his family is hungry, no money to be had and children are starving. But he is able to hunt, and has the resource easily available, should it be illegal for him to take a resource to feed himself and family? The thing I see currently and granted it varies state to state. Is that the resource is fewer and the costs continue to grow. Where I am the state has mismanaged the land and for my money it's s loss to the people's resources of the state.

Stewardship ought to be a required class in k-12. It feels like the majority of people don't have a firm grasp on subjects like ecology, land and water management.

rofl

Guy Wheeler it’s entirely plausible*

Guy "not original at all" Wheeler

@@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS Thank you kind sir

@@guywheeler1346 Don't mention it ;)

Must have reeked havoc on those islands indigenous species

We have lots of federal and provincial population control programs. They kill wolves lots and they culled deer in my hometown more then once

What are you talking about? We (Canada) have TONS! Quebec has 48000 square kilometers of controlled zones for fishing and hunting. The number of hunting permits is limited in numbers, periods, species, zones and sex. The number of permits is determined by the animal population etc etc etc.

Pat Lefebvre you tell his ass pat

The permits program itself is often a method of control. For instance in one state you may be able to hunt white tail deer and only tag 3 deer in most counties. But in another state where deer populations are dangerously high you might be able to legally harvest 10 deer.

I waited to hear what they thought about legendary grizzly hunting.

Jones, wait. What?

@JCmasters100 Best game so far. You should try it really fun.

@JCmasters100 i do work and i get that pussy on the regular. U should loosen up a bit feller.

How did rdr2 bring you here?

My dad always says that when we go camping and i cant tell him enough how bad it would be

I spend alot of nights every year in the backcountry and am always grateful when I'm lucky enough to see a large predator like Grizzlies or a mountain lion. How exactly is that "next level BS?" I'm prepared to defend myself if need be, but so far I haven't had to.

Jesse N Clearly I'm talking about people who are NOT actually prepared. The people who go into the woods once a month to hike and take selfies, while being too distracted to realize they've wandered up on something until they're already too close for comfort. Luckily those people are usually loud enough animals can avoid them though.

Oh I wanna see a lion in my back yard, it would be so beautiful and majestic as it claws my face off and eats my pets.

Lost my cat to a lion this winter. Sad but glad the Lions are around.

But we are also removing habitat and we are more numerous than any other mammal except for urban rats, which are a by product of our presence. There is no balance except us removing 90% of fauna and living in an ever increasing artificial world.

Stop it Ray

October 18!!

Deer meat is extremely healthy. More than most store bought meats.

@@motonut4503 elk is better

Mee too

Earth humans are an experiment by ET humans. We've been here less than 9000 years.