Palmer vs Saka vs Foden | Who will Southgate pick for his Euro 2024 starting XI? 🦁
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Rod Dorsett compares Cole Palmer's stats with Phil Foden and Bukayo Saka's and how all three could fit into the England XI at Euro 2024.
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That’s not fair on Palmer, he should deserve a shot to be in the England starting XI, you don’t pick a team on favorites, you pick a team on who’s performing the best currently
No you pick a team based on who will perform best for England.
@environm3ntalist549 that's Palmer. Guy didn't exactly need time to settle for Chelsea did he? If he can immediately make that kind of impact in an unstable environment/disorganised team there, he'll slot into England seamlessly. He's one of those players you can tell is versatile and good enough to play well regardless of who he's playing with/what system. Natural footballer.
Performing best currently doesn’t mean they will perform best by the euros
That's not how you pick a team at all, who is performing the best currently is a big factor but it's one amongst many.
@@Anon97123 England might be many poor things under Southgate but they certainly do not have an unstable environment or disorganisation
Palmer is so direct, elegant, skillful, and a finisher. Doesn't go looking for pens to limp. Man is a no nonsense baller. Have to have him start on the right.
People don't understand the levels that man can reach, scary...
I'm sure he can play as a 10 with Bellingham and Rice behind him.
You guys are such prisoners of the moment. Saka has been performing at pl level & international level for longer. Saka starts, Foden starts, Bellingham starts. Palmer is an amazing bench option
@@michael43567 Saka doesn't play good in big games, Palmer is much better than him in goal scoring, passing, dribbling, IQ of game etc.
You can't drop Palmer just because he's a bit less experienced than others
Not choosing palmer to start is just straight up abomination 😂😂, the man is a monster 😮. I love saka and foden but the man is in form.
You think palmer starts over foden and saka? 🤣 Palmer plays either RW or 10 and he starts over neither
@@mnr.m1 Saka's stats clearly show he has been a downward spiral. Arsenal have burnt him out.
@@AeyGeeagreed. Palmer is the natural pick. Could also see Saka starting to struggle next season but time will tell.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
@@AeyGee you can use stats to fits the argument you are making and wanting out of a player. Palmer has scored over half of his goals from the spot. It is his first season and sometimes you see players get found out after a season. When on the right Palmer has not been as effective for Chelsea when in CAM. Saka is better defensively and brings players into him to create space for others. You make it sound as though Saka has scored or done anything. You take off Palmer’s pens and Saka’s pen they are just a goal difference and assist difference. Saka has been doing it for years and is Arsenal’s best player and they are near the top.
Palmer is phenomenal and universal, he can score any team to defender palmer is headache.
This is Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard all over again and it will end in tears
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
It seems the English fans never learn, they need to take a leaf from Spanish 2010 team
I love watching Palmer play more...feel like something will always happen
Cole palmer is incredibly consistent in an underperforming Chelsea team.
All of them I’d say
exactly
yeah but whos gonna play out of position? Not to mention all three of their strongest/shooting foot is the left one
@@HeyGio_3 Palmer could play as a 10. You wouldn't bat an eyelid if they were all right footed, it doesn't matter.
@@a-walpatches6460well said 👏
If Palmer starts, it should be RW in place of Saka. Either Bellingham or Foden in the 10. For me, Palmer starts over Saka. Saka has done it for longer so it's his spot to lose. Guessing Palmer will start on the bench and he'll only take Saka's place if Saka isnt playing well in the Euros. That's generally how Southgate's operated in the past. He doesnt take risks, but he's willing to drop one of his favourites in a tournament if it isn't working. Personally, I'd start Palmer first game of the Euros over Saka. I just think hes better. But that won't happen. The majority of people will obviously back Saka because Palmer's the new kid on the block and Saka's had 2 good tournaments for us now. But I do think we'll be missing a trick by not starting Palmer. He's one of those players that could seemlessly slot into any system. Very natural footballer. Glides past players, great vision, great shooting technique which makes him clinical etc. Game comes easy to him. People who don't want to risk starting him after 1 good season will probably realise in 2 or 3 seasons time just how good he is. But I understand completely why people are reluctant to want Saka dropped for him when Saka himself hasn't declined. The thing is, Palmer's a better player. It's taken him half a season to catch up to his standard and I'd argue he's already better. Very similar feeling to when Belllingham first broke through. Also has a top mentality too.
Spot on mate.
Saka has proven tournament quality. Palmer will get there one day
@@andrewjoyce9038 proven tournament quality without winning the actual tournament means nothing, unless you're from England...
Problem is that with Walker starting at RB most likely, you would want a natural winger who is more comfortable providing the width at RW. Palmer usually have Gusto overlapping so he could invert and occupy the half space which is where he is most effective. So Saka would be most suited in that position for England.
Saka wouldn't even be second choice RW
Palmer and Foden should play.
Yeah, it would be beneficial for both England and Arsenal if Saka doesn’t play cause he’s not the best RW for England atm, he’s burnt out
His in his prime chill 🧘♀️ star boy draws two 2️⃣ players all day none of the other guys demand that attention from defenders 🫡
Don't put your hate for Arsenal on Saka. We all know non of those can play better on the right Wng thm him. If you want to Win Saka plays,
Most exciting bunch of attacking players we've had in my time watching England. Any combination is the right combination. That defence is a worry though if Kyle Walker isn't there to save them.
I love Cole Palmer. he's saved our season so far god knows where we'd be without him. But for England, Foden or Bellingham has to play in the 10 role we've seen how excellent they've both played domestically and in Europe. As for right wing there is a genuine discussion between Saka and Cole but Bukayo has international experience for England. Cole should be an impact sub in my opinion but honestly with the amount of attacking talent we have at our disposal at the moment any choice is the right one.
Cole Palmer wins the pl golden boot and playmaker award only to be 2nd choice RW at the euros? GTFOH lmao. If he wins it, he's gonna start wherever they want him but he'll start. One of Saka or Foden will either have to sit or play LW. Gordon is on form too, so LW looks like his unless Southgate chooses grealish or rashford bc he's southgate
That's why they won't win it
@@afckajjansi so you’d have Gordon and move Bellingham out of the position he is best in the world at? With this defense mainoo should be starting to protect with rice with saka, foden, Bellingham and Kane attacking. You get your best players on the pitch and as great as palmers been for a mid table team he hasn’t been asked to start in enough high pressure situations for club or England to start him when you’re the favorites to win.
You could play all three. Foden on the left, Palmer in the 10 and Saka on the right. Pivot of Rice and Bellingham. Have Stones step into midfield like he does for Man City and push Bellingham Forward turning the shape into a 3 2 4 1
No
I 100% disagree with foden at the right wing,,he's a midfielder,,10th position,,,and also Bellingham is more better on 8th position than 10th,,, people,,you learn to analyze football keenly.
Saka is a pure right winger. Cuts in & shoots, cuts in & crosses, goes down the outside, tracks back. He's also performed the best for England out of the 3. To me he should start RW. Foden can play LW
Has cold palmar got to play in big games for England? No so we don't know we should give him chance so we can judge him
@@biswashkhand4480 and a must win Euros tournament isn't the time to experiment
@@michael43567Like you have won it with Saka before now😂😂😂😂
The only problem is that Palmer is lazy,if he was not maybe we would compare him with Saka n Foden,NOT a Arsenal fan Saka is better than Palmer but Foden he even defends.
Out of the 3 . Saka is the only natural right winger . Palmer and Foden are natural 10s who occasionally play wide . The real question is , if Rice is the 6 and Jude plays the 8 for England . Who will be the 10 out of Foden and Palmer ?
Not a single hope or chance palmer is a better 10 than foden. Not. A. Chance
Kane cf, saka right forward, foden left forward, rice defensive midfielder, Bellingham centre midfield, palmer number 10.
That's just not true. Palmer's a right winger. Different type of player to Saka but all his best games have been off the right this season for Chelsea. The Everton game he did play AM and scored 4 but that shows his versatility. As someone who's watched him all season, he's absolutely best cutting in onto his left foot at RW.
@@user-fv1rn2xe4f nahhh palmer clear
Strange...
England team is crazy!
Poor defence though
Saka is the most experienced of the three. You cant go with trial and error in a tournament which is your last dance as a coach. Saka will start and wont be surprised if Grealish start ahead of Palmer and Foden. Saka and Grealish are more defensively solid and you need that in a tournament. Nothing is wrong with Foden and Cole coming after 60 minutes when opponents are tiring after Saka and Grealish ran them rugged. It will be scarier.
For once we can feel lucky - these are better than the golden generation in these positions. Let's hope they all stay fit and in form
It’s just deeper not better. The golden generation. Had Rooney, Owen, Defoe, Crouch, Joe Cole, Beckham, Walcott, wright phillips, and Lennon as options
Foden Kane Saka Palmer Rice Jude Chilwell tomori stones walker Ramsdale I feel like jude can be played as an 8 and still be influential. Also, tomori has to start. it's the pace that can keep up with the world-class attackers
When I saw Maguire I was like... Are you serious?
This is easy. Play the first formation. But like pep, let stones join the midfield to form a box. In this way you get Bellingham to join the attack.
I agree but England box midfield is hilarious😂 specifically because Southgate would never.. the clown
If you don’t want Saka you just don’t like him. Look at the chances created while having that many pl goal contributions
One of these players is a 2x england player of the year btw
please put lineup 3
Cold Palmer is the best player currently and currently. Proper Chels
He just isn't
@@jackhe3209Keep on believing that
@@mandizolephatho5543 sold him for a reason😂
@@mandizolephatho5543 Yh his good and all but u chelsea fans comparing him to foden and saying his better
@@Bobbiez_editz I never said His better than Foden, I said he's the best😅
Palmer is clear as day. He's such a genius.
He is good to go for the best player of the season❤❤❤❤❤
If Palmer can link up with Jackson then he link up with all the England forwards, easily.He should start as a 10 and Jude is can play box to box as a deep 8
For a tournament it's a squad game. Saka/Palmer can sew up the right. Still need a partner for Rice though.
Mainoo or Wharton
All should be heading to the EUROS and most especially all must start
We thank God for the blessing of such wonderful options 🙏🏾
Yes Cole is the hottest player on form right now. It's undisputed. Next month it may change though.
Palmer is class; he has been playing all season in a poor Chelsea team, he has kept Chelsea mid table until his colleagues return from injuries. COYB if England don’t play him; it’s Chelsea gain over the long run
All of them!! 😂
Palmer is rocking it
exactly
I would play all three. Saka and Palmer on the wings, and Foden as an attacking midfielder, alongside Bellingham. I would also be inclined to use " super subs " such as Gordon , Bowen , and Rashford when players are tiring , or need a break, or are injured.
Foden LW, Saka RW, Palmer CAM, Bellingham CM
Ofcourse, Palmer is the first name on that list as the best player this season in the epl , following foden coming from an Arsenal fan , they should just give him the award , becoming anytime is on the field it always feels like something magical is going to happen
Foden scored a hattrick in the number 10 position against Brentford then Palmer scored a hattrick the next day against Man United a team we have not beaten in 6 years in the PL...
for me 26 men england squad should be:- GK-Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope, Aaron Ramsdale DEF-Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Luke Shaw(must go if he's 100%fit to play matches because you cannot use him as substitute), Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker,ben white(he must),john stones,dan burn/lewis hall/fikayo tomori/marc guehi/joe gomez/jarrad Branthwaite(if any one can really play well in left back position) MID-Jude Bellingham, Conor Gallagher/james ward prowse(he must go than conor), James Maddison, Kobbie Mainoo, Declan Rice,mount(if southgate likes him),henderson(he'll go) FW-Harry Kane, Ivan Toney, raheem sterling/rashford(if southgate thinks that anyone or both can play well according to his expectations so good they are most welcome,but if not better if both will not get selected by him),Phil Foden, Cole Palmer, Bukayo Saka,bowen/sancho(i will go with sancho if southgate thinks bowen ok i don't know how he plays),grealish another one england squad for euro 2024---- fw-kane saka grealish(if he's fit)/watkins/eze palmer rashford/sterling(if both play well other wise not required)/sancho(simply because he deserves one more chance to show) toney bowen/jamie vardy(a surprice inclusion because now england needs his service a lot) midf-jude rice foden mainoo hendo trent madders(because u must need a gascoigne type player) ward-prowse(because u must need a beckham type player) def-maguire stones walker trippier chilwell shaw(if he's fit)/joe gomez ben white(must) levi cowill/dan burn(my choice) lewis dunk/tomori/guehi/jarred/james justin(a surprice inclusion)/ryan sessegnon(a surprice inclusion) gk-pickford ramsdale pope(if he's fit)/hart(a surprice inclusion)/butland/dean henderson
Dropping Saka is Diabolical
Saka tasked corners that why his chances are a lot
All in all,,if I was England coach,,this is how my my players, would be,, 1.Forwards B.saka,, Watkins,,Bowen, Gordon,,ivan toney,solanke, 2.Midfielders Jude bellingham,Rice,Foden,,mainoo,palmer,, Gallagher.. 3.Defenders colwill,,Joe gomes,, walker,,Arnold,,,Lewis,stones,,branthwaite,enzri konsa 3.Ball stoppers Ramsdale,,James trafford. 4.Wonderkids Nwaneri and jobe Bellingham.
Yes palmer is good is a game change
Phil foden is built differently he cannot be compared to anyone
Phil is the most inform player in England, should try Double pivot no 10 with jude and foden. And stones can step in midfield with rice forming a box midfield, similar to pep treble lineup Where stones used to team up with rodri and kdb gundogan forming a carrasouel of passing which no team was able to beat. Palmer and saka on wings, kane up front
What about stat for trophies ?
He’ll definitely pick Saka. Foden and Palmer probably going for 1 spot, but I’d imagine he goes with Foden. Playing well against Real Madrid carries far more weight than playing well against Everton!
Still, palmer has a lot of quality.
Think Saka is the worst of the three on current form.
Everton would get in Europe if they played in La Liga. Joke of a league.
@@OfficialMrJames ??
TBF he has turned up against all the top sides bar liverpool.
As a Chelsea FC fan who isn't English I'm not concerned if Palmer doesn’t immediately start for The Three Lions. Him starting at some point its an inevitability. The immediate concern or conversation here is having Maguire as an irrefutable feature in your starting IX.
Palmer is such a confident player, I don’t think he needs time to settle in or adjust to the pressure. I reckon if he starts, he’ll play just as well as he does for Chelsea
In KO tournament u need a goal scorer/creator.. so it should be palmer starting
The journalist/presenter started the comparison as question for the pundit but he answered all his questions too. 🤔
Tbh, Phil Foden has been a class above both, Palmer second for me, then Saka. Foden is not even taking penalty for man city yet delivering that stats unlike Palmer and Saka.
Move bellingham deeper. Hes not a number 10 hes more of a box to box. Very similar to Rice, but offers a bit more in the final third. The 2nd team is how id play it but swap walker to CB and then put TAA rb.
well clearly hes the most in form player in the pl atm...you have to give him the shot in the group stages and if he blends in well then he keeps his spot otherwise if he struggles in the england squad then its bellingham in and palmer benched...with so much talent available you just have to work smartly and simply remember that the england squad in the euros is a much bigger challenge and responsibility compared to chelsea where by far palmer is the talisman
take all three
Palmer for me even tho he's playing for a Chelsea team that doesn't look so confidence if the Chelsea team should improve there won't be no such debate
I would pick all three. Rice, Bellingham in midfield. Foden on the left, Palmer at 10, Saka on the right
Start all 3. Foden/bellingham/rice midfield. Palmer/saka Kane upfront. Trent has to play too, his ability is a world apart from the others. And yes he can defend, his stats consistently are good each season. Highlight merchants might disagree with facts though.
Not gonna lie, that 3rd option looks fire.
All of them for sure. Rice and the full backs should be more defensives, than you can use Bellighan and Foden in front of Rice. Palmer on the right and Saka on the left as he used to play as a left winger so will adapt faster.
Much is likely to be talked about.... where is gordon playing 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Palmer definitely should start. He's the most impactful player out of these 3.
England will over hiryping these is pamer first full season and you people are saying he should start ahead of saka that is doing it session in session out
Adam Wharton is another one to look at, the way he keeps the ball is impressive
I would play all 3 with Bellingham and rice in the pivot role
By the definition of a right wing. Saka is the proper right wing. Good 1 vs 1 More direct Creative Defend a lot in the opposition half Can cover up for the right back Can play left back,left-wing etc ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Go for 4-1-2-3 Same backline. Rice at CDM. 2 CAMs , preferably Palmer and Bellingham. Attacking Kane, Foden in the left, Saka at the right.
Now you guys also have Madueke ALSO on the right side! XD
On current form, Cold Palmer is the best premier league player.
I'm a man city fan and u can let Palmer being benched he is a very good player so for me Palmer in , saka obviously would he is the best right winter for England and supersub foden
4141 will be perfect then all four will be able to play Kane Cole , Bellingham,foden , Saka Rice Chiwell ,stones ,maguire,walker Pickford
It all depends on the next 7 or so games. Will Saka return to form? Will Palmer maintain his? And foden?
Should be Palmer on the right and Foden on the Left and maybe Saka at CAM
yes u can drop saka when ur risking bellingham and palmer
You play the first option of the 11 get the best of every player.
All of them. End of discussion
4-1-4-1 formation, midfield four of palmer and saka on wings and Foden and Bellingham in the middle
Option 4 :- all of them.
What a team that England has...they should be winning the Euros
Palmer played number 10 against Evaton on Monday and scored 4goals
All three tbh, foden on the left, saka on the right and palmer as well on the right. You can have all three and rotate them constantly
all three should start.
All I know is that foden has to be starting 1,000,000%. Foden at 10,Bellingham adjacent and saka on the right. Idk where palmer slots in…
on the left - even out of position he's better than any other option for lw
@@swappycars Gordon will be on the left :P
@@swappycarsgordon
What. Cole Palmer should start
Can we not play like this? ... Kane Palmer Saka Foden Bellingham Rice Shaw / Chilwell ?? Stones Walker
3-2-4-1 (in possession) Gk: Pickford Rcb: Walker CB: Maguire RCB: Stones RDM: Declan LDM: Trent LM: Foden RM: Saka LAM: Jude RAM: Cole Palmer ST: kane
4-1-4-1 Foden and Saka on the wing. Palmer and Bellingham in the middle. Rice as the CDM (Mainoo Sub). Kane up top (Toney sub)
Palmer Saka Bellingham Foden. All well and good. But what the HELL is Gallagher doing starting for England
I love the fact they choose Chilwell as well😂😂☠️
We also got gallgher and maddison to fit in
Palmer needs to be on the bench at the very least. Never know if England might end up in a penalty shootout 😜
All I'm saying as a chelsea fan is that Saka in RW is undropable - he's won England Men's player of the year 2 seasons in a row now
This year its either Palmer or Foden
yes saka starts unless his form drops in england shirt in two or more games, bellingham has the number 10 on lock and foden or grealish starts on the wing with gordon as sub
Phil Foden doesn't take penalties, so impressive this season.
Also plays in the best team and has had a lot more minutes than Palmer.
Anyone would be impressive in the best team in the world man city. Put foden in Chelsea lol no chance
@@DrBased123 Palmer also played in that team, its harder to outshine world class players in a team full of superstars
Saka and foden and kane up top
Should be Palmer down the right, Foden on the left and Saka as the sub
Kalvin Philips starts 😂
Yes he is
1st of all i don't even get the point of this, only saka has those stats from the right, so that's settled, foden as a 10 alongside Rice and Bellingham, plus amongst the 3 of them only saka is proven for England, so again i don't get the point
no doubt Sir PALMER is the current best player in the premier league
palmer coming through at just the right time because Saka could really do with a break