Timepiece Gentleman Scam Explained... The Secret Watch Dealers on YT don't want you to know.
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I don’t say this lightly, but that was a master class in breaking down and explaining to the target audience what a para social relationship is and how it works 👏 well done. Social engineering of people’s feelings affect their perception of things, simple as that. I especially enjoyed the little subtle pips of music to evoke a subconscious response in key spots of your video - first class, well done Oisin 👍
It is all fluff…..22 minute video with three minutes of information. PASS !!!
I hope everyone in the watch community regardless of politics or group gets to see this. Well done. Very honest and helpful.
Fantastic advice that’s clearly much needed. Absolutely nailed it and I hope people listened!
Amazing factual and educational piece, thanks Oisin. As always top quality content.
Great information, and great video (as always). Appreciate the work you put into your content.
This came up in my suggested feed. I watched and completely enjoyed your take on the consignment dealings and the Parasocial aspects. Thanks for the video.
Really appreciate how well you described the nature of the relationship between KZhead viewers and YT Personalities - and the risks associated when money or influence is involved.
Wow, this was so informative. I never knew any of this but after you used the analogy with the bank, it makes perfect sense. Great video, and really appreciate people like you for the watch community…
You and Federico are taking the high road with this one, both very educational and viewer-oriented takes on what was a glaringly predictable end for Anthony...
Oisin, so well said and spot on. You stood out on the Tim Write Zoom call last week with Anthony Farrer. You were the only interviewer who understood that Anthony was a grifter and called him out. Kudos to you. Regarding Anthony, he conned all of us from the beginning. It was only the last 90 days that Redittors shared his extensive arrest record since he was a teen. Anthony himself just told us he was arrested FORTY times. More importantly, we also learned that Anthony is just the tip of the grey market watch grifters, and this practice is more common then we thought. Keep up your work of exposing these frauds and hucksters!
Actually, lots of people on Reddit knew that TPG was a scam early on even dating back to the Dallas days. Its just that there were a lot of people who fawned on flexing of leased luxury cars, , expensive dinners, and first class flights to deliver watches only netting a few thousand who couldn't see a consignment business model wasn't generating enough money to support the high life . Also, if one couldn't see past the fake flexing, there were other early warning signs about lack of cash such as the watch buy back program, the 2k VIP watch club , watch dealer university. the list goes on.
Excellent video Oisín 👍🏻 you explained a lot of information to us very clearly👏🏻
Knocked this one out of the park again Oisin. and Kudos to Fred for once again being the truthful pivot point on watch dealing that the watch world needs
This was a very good vid. Honesty is a virtue and so rare nowadays. Big shout out to u man 🙌💯😎👊
Great analysis and excellent content, thank you Sir!!
Important subject presented with great integrity. Well done Oisin.
Federicos video yesterday hit the nail on the head and will hopefully educate alot of viewers on the enormous risk of consigning watches.
In a climate of noise and hype, this was exceedingly well done, forthright, insightful and appreciated. As usual, notable for no BS, a sense of humor, and good hair, in a throwback way.
Oisin, this is a great video man, keep up the good work and we’ll thought out content!
Federico and Marc in just a couple of days. Good man.
Cheers to Oisin! The best parasocial friend a guy could ever have!
that was epic!!
Parasocial friends on Parasocial Media
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Excellent and important video - and one of your more philosophical. Lifts the veil on how social media is opening up new terrain for deceptive and predatory business practices.
Thanks for the education. You're explanation was very clear and insightful. I've learnt something today!!!
Tony the Tugger is now on the run.
Thanks Oisin, you're the best parasocial friend a guy could ask for!😊
Not that I have a watch valuable enough to worry about this, I do watch a lot of watch channels like yours. I saw Fed's video the other day, and was surprised and pleased he did this. Also, your video does a much better job of explaining the situation and why people should know what the hell is going on with this than anyone else. Outstanding job sir!
Fine artists deal with this scenario all the time. They leave all their paintings at galleries on consignment all the time and when the gallery goes under, you're screwed. Gallery owners are MIA with the artwork and gone. Any business proposition where consignment is discussed should immediately raise a red flag.. This should be a wake up call. Sad for those who lost money.. Good content as usual and a topic that needed to be addressed..
@georgezagr6627 Exactly there is a quick cash price and there's a price to sell to a end user. Whenever I hear someone say "they are going for x price" I tell them go sell your item yourself. A real dealer has to account for selling cost, profit and the cost of money over time. People have no clue.
@@KeithBeacham You can do it yourself but you also have to prove to whoever your selling to that your piece is authentic. You can have all the paperwork but what if you swapped the watch itself to a fake? If you sell something yourself it takes extra time to do your own authentications for the sake of the buyer. This is why people pay brokers.
Isn’t there a sheriff or civil court officer to go after them
@@OscarOSullivan because it's a civil matter, it's difficult to get anything done. Court costs make it prohibitive to do anything
@@salvadorcano4494 In Ireland there are court authorised officers who will chase you down to pay up what you owe
Absolutely brilliant video Oisin lad! The cream will rise to the top, your consistency is unmatched! Keep it up ☘️
Absolute truth spoken and very good information given for no personal gain. Thank you👌
Great video Oisin, most informative and very interesting 👍
This is the first video I saw from you, the way you explained and taught us to understand parasocial relationships was an experience for me in a worthwhile way. Arrogant I am, thinking to have seen it all in life, the good and the bad. You did just prove the opposite, and learned something new to me, its valuable and useful for every day. Thank you!
One of your most brilliant videos yet! All the best, D
This is excellent! Your discussion of para-social relationship is very valuable and all consumers should heed your wise words.
I bought a watch from Fed, he was super honest and very helpful.
Very insightful information. Totally agree about consignment. The old adage of “Buy the dealer, not the watch” seems very applicable. The parasocial relationship has absolutely effected the Watch market without question.
Very good structured video Oisin... Good content as well.
Excellent content, as always. Thanks!
Another excellent video. I love the way you edit in visuals that illustrate the point you are stating, such as the scene of the young man watching you on his phone.
ALSO, whenever selling on consignment, its possible that "someone" might monkey around with a few of the parts on the watch. Original manufacturer spare parts can be sold and are valuable. One really does not know what happens to a watch before it gets sold on consignment. This is another reason why its probably best to get paid the money up front instead of consignment sale.
Thanks for your take on that subject. Also - almost 100k - congrats !
Very informative! Thanks. Great channel
This is the most interesting explanation of people's socil media addictions. They have friends with no recourse. I would laugh but it's kind of sad.. That's probably why so many people are emotionally disconnected. And every once in awhile I'll come across the video like this that I evokes my thoughts and how I see you things and to give me a new perspective. 😊👍
Hi Oisin, I really enjoyed the episode from a wisdom perspective. It reminded me of a time many many years ago when I was a struggling uni student and I had to sell my 1978 Fender Stratocaster on consignment, just so I could pay my f’n rent. The god damn shop did not have my best interests in mind, and later pointed out imperfections to try and get me to lower the price to the prospective buyer. There is a classic line from Ray Liotta, in the movie ‘Revolver’ that people should bear in mind when engaging in ‘any’ business transaction from the perspective of both sides of the transaction: “what innit for me”?
Well put as additional aspects of what Federico said! Watched his vid earlier this morning.
The most honest Watch World KZhead video I have ever seen. Bravo.
I just wanted to take a moment to say how amazing your video was! I was really impressed with the quality of the footage, the editing, and the overall presentation. You did a great job of explaining the topic in a clear and concise way, and I learned a lot from watching your video. I also really appreciated the way you made the video engaging and entertaining. You kept my attention throughout the entire video, and I never felt bored or lost. I would definitely recommend your video to anyone who is interested in learning more about the video. Thanks again for making such a great video! I look forward to watching more of your content in the future. PS: I outsourced this feedback to AI.
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This is my first time seeing you and/or your channel. I have seen other people break down the various problems that you brought up, but no one has done it with the detail and expertise as you. Sir I thank you. I will be watching more of your videos. Stay blessed.
Great information. I haven’t seen your videos before, but follow most of the others you talk about in this, so not sure how that’s happened …. Subscribed straight away 👍
I just subbed. This is the most brilliant piece of work on the ineternet I've seen in the last 2 months. You taught me something important about internet "celebrities."
Thank you for the honesty, breath of fresh air
I love that Oisin uses American Beauty in this vid for analogies. At 17:06 Kevin Spacey's watch clasp appears to be on upside down and I can't unsee it.
excellent video including a valuable lesson in media literacy! hopefully, the people listen carefully… keep up the good work! 👍🏼
Fed is awesome. Love and respect his candor. 👍👍
Hello Oisin Your explanations are very clear. All the best
I like Federico. I do not agree with some of his takes when it comes to certain watches but I whole heartedly agree with him letting the cat out of the bag. That was the right thing to do. And you did a fantastic job with this video. Good, honest breakdown.
In my view, Federico is highly credible and trustworthy. He used to work for Piaget, and I know the firm very well. One thing for certain, if Piaget places confidence in him, so would I.
well let me guess, you dont agree with fed's take on rolex 😂. butthurt rolex fan
@@alexp3752 I never he wasn’t trustworthy. Simply I don’t always agree with him on what’s makes a great watch. Different strokes for different people but his take on this is dead on and honest and that I can respect!
Frederico has definitely made a few adjustments to his channel over the last few years. I enjoy his content more than I used to and I think it's because he had a bit of an inner awakening and a opening of his conscience to the content he was putting out and the things he was saying. I have nothing but respect for people that admit flaws, grow from them and have discuss it openly with people or an audience they're speaking to.
Great informative video oison thanks
Great video brother.. ❤
Very captivating and informative video. Great content…along with a great nom de plume 👍
Well put. Fine video, sir. Very educational. And yes, Fed is the boss.
Excellent and informative episode, Oisin. Thank you!
I want to see that movie now.
Fantastic video Oisin, I found it so insightful. Thank you 😊
Brilliant Oisin. No axe to grind, just well articulated insight.
Stumbled upon this video…. Honestly one of the best self reflection videos I’ve ever seen, period. Very much appreciate this video, even more so since it speaks somewhat against your own efforts of this very channel. I’m going to show my family this video for their own self awareness. Subbed for more content like this which goes well beyond my self gratification of the watch hobby itself.
Oh wow! I saw you on a podcasts which included TPG some time ago. You were in Italy, flying solo having some awesome wine and. I thought to myself ‘this guy needs a KZhead channel’ and I left it at that… so I am very happy to hear that you upload, I don’t care what you talk about because I know that you only talk about what you know about! I am a serial, full time learner and you are the sort of man I am keen to learn from. You gotta new Sub man!
Great narrative, relevant and a wake up call to all. Pulling back the curtain on the business.
Great video and thoughts. I sold a Sky Dweller last yr (not consignment), But the dealers love consignment and try to get you in, by saying it will get you the best price etc etc (GREED). I asked the dealer for his Drivers Licence and a Police check (which they said No - which I expected). They said you are consigning it to a coy, I said no I am trusting you ! I said if you take off with my watch, I need to know where you live etc so I come around and get it. They dealer did not like this at all, BUT like you said I didn't really know the dealer at all, seemed nice But who knows. NEVER EVER CONIGN.
This is the first time I've seen your channel and must say how professionally put together the content is.
Very well explained Oisin!
A very interesting video and thank you for explaining things in layman's terms.
Solid content! Monitor reflections in your glasses are disturbing.
Fantastic work lots of people will benefit from this video great words of caution Love the shorter vids btw sometimes just can’t commit to to 90mins
Excellent analysis!!
Brilliant!!! “Para social relationship” and “asymmetric intimacy”… wicked smart! Thank you for explaining all this! You are 100% right and this is a wake up call for all of us! Thank you for being so honest!
Really enjoyed that. Always seem to learn something on this channel
Thank you for the words of wisdom👍🙏
consignment = interest free loan to a watch dealer (grey market)
Wow, astounding. Very well done!!!!
Thanks. This is one of the best explanations so far and shows has easily people can be hoodwinked. Thankfully, I'm sceptical about everyone.
Remember the London watch show where a dealer had 400k worth of watches stolen from the room that could only be accessed by dealers and security. Well it was an inside job , and was taken by another dealer. This is mostly the people you are dealing with should you chose to do so...
very nicely and thoroughly explained Ush cheers. Also THE problem with consigning anything is they take a huge cut/fee for doing their bidding. would always always rather sell privately if possible. Federico shoots straight from the hip, appreciate that.
Absolutely fantastic explanation on para social relationship ......you nailed it!!!
Great analysis, thanks for your wisdom and truth exposing these fake dealers
I love oisin's forthrightness and generally just not giving a f*ck attitude, we need to expose some of these slippery characters who probably didn't know a vacheron from a breguet 5/6 years ago. Well said oisin
Excellent information. Thank you very much.
Great video ❤ Treat all gray dealer businesses the same way you treat your local politicians. Don’t trust them.
I am become hubris. The Destroyer of Tugs.
A familiar verse…from the Bhagavad Cheater, if I remember correctly 😂
Anthony was a walking meme
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Bro 🤣
Excellent commentary of Federico's most recent post. ParaSocial relationships can be dangerous. Never consign with someone that may go broke, or already be broke! Better yet, NEVER CONSIGN AT ALL!
Good stuff! Spot on and Federico was absolutely right. Sell back to your AD. Break even and get a new piece. Forget the investment BS. Wear your watch, treat it well and trade in when done.
very well put and insightful
Well explained, straight to the point!
Love this video, great content 👌
Hope you have a good weekend Oisin!!!
Thank you Oisin, I really hope some people realise the "reality" around this KZhead "advertising" game. Yes you can all seem like wondeerful people in "front" of the svreen but we NOTHING about who you are behind the screen. Keep up the great work Oisin. I love your "content" Cheers from downunder.
Really enjoyed this content and your analysis. It has been going on as long as advertising existed and that’s why bill boards with images of people were first done.
I trust you even more now ! 😂 Seriously, thank you for explaining this. Great content, interesting and informative as usual 👍
Fantastic post! Well said. I never really looked at it that way but you’re 100% correct.
Not really - only consign stuff you would not stock
One of the best “watch” videos out there.
That is the most honest and detailed explanation of consignment I've ever heard.....Thank-you
Great to see you again man..... you're obviously looking after yourself...
Great topic, thanks for sharing.