IPS vs VA side by side comparison: LG 27GL850 vs Viewsonic VX3268-2KPC
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Edit: A lot of comments have talked about how this is an unfair comparison, and that's absolutely right. I've made a followup video comparing to the G7 here. • Highend IPS VS VA | LG...
Deep Dive comparison between LG 27GL850 IPS panel and the Viewsonic VX3268-2KPC VA panel. Lets find out which is better!
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Best IPS vs VA comparison in the whole internet. Seriously.
Ikr, he gained my sub
it is
was about to say the same. browsed the whole internet for comparison like this
damn right
I would've mentioned that VA is ideal for gaming in a dark room over IPS that is hindered by this and has the white glow effect present. Gaming is a whole other thing though.
me, watching on a cheap TN video so can see neither the truer colours nor the deeper blacks
Haha same 😂😂
Trolololol
After reading your comment I moved the window from my 144hz TN panel to the IPS one, and yeah, I immediately noticed a difference 😆
@@ChrisBlackTV 😌i too have both , colours look good in ips when watching stuff.but in gaming i don't see much diff except red colour and green colour look different.
Watching on a IPS panel with terrible light bleeding and terrible blacks. This monitor is from 2015 and it used to cost 800€
My mouth dropped when I saw the black on white text comparison. Thanks for making this in depth video. Nice work.
Some more modern VA panels don't have this issue. Samsung Oddyssey G7 and higher VA panels for example.
Thank you sir for this video. You just made me make a choice that've been bothering me for 2 days. And btw, I love the way you articulate and speak. Feels like hearing a nice gentlemen . I'm now subscribed to your channel and exited to see more.
This is by far the best IPS vs VA comparison I watched! Very logical testing, and the black background white text coding just took it to another level.
The thing about that is, its not doing it on my VA... at all. I can test right here in these comments.
@@timmyp6297 What monitor do you have? I'm looking for a good monitor but I wouldnt like to regret if I get a VA
@@NAM_BRO ASUS VG32VQ1B
What's best for designing like ux and ui?
I also have a VA monitor and it doesn't have this black background white text problem. It is probably a problem with some cheap VA panels
Me watching this video on a *TN* Panel: 🌝
Watch from ur phone might help
yup
İ watch xiomi note X4 (16gb) 😡
Honestly guys I feel for you. I am watching this on ips 144hz moniter. 😀
@@rumourplays niceee dude. I got my 144hz 1440 asus tuf ips on the way 😁😁😁
Video of this kind of categories are not covered by most of youtubers, and most video i found are 3 to 4 years old. Thank you so much for this video. and Keep going with the flow....🔥❤
As someone trying to figure out which monitor to use (only used laptops up to this point), this video was super helpful! It's one thing to read about it and another to see the visual differences. Thanks!
I own a philips 144hz va panel monitor, and out of the box, the black smearing issue was really bothering but managed to reduce it significantly by adjusting the "SmartResponse" setting to fast.
I like the variety of things shown/discussed in your comparison, the way you replayed, highlighted and slowed what you were showing and how you got the info across while being concise.
Solid comparison and I'm glad it just came up in YT recommendations. The part on text during screen shake was a practical example that helped me decide.
Bro, You nailed it. This is super cool comparison with every detail .
I do appreciate so much, not only your accurate review but also your kindness calling for liking and subscribing at the very end of the video. So polite and ellegant.
This is such an amazing review, really helped me to decide my purchase.
Dude, really... as some have already said: Hands down the best comparison between IPS and VA panel on the internet. Great stuff, mate. :D
Great video man, thank you on testing and explaining in detail. Now I can help more people when purchasing new monitors. Cheers!
Very good video, the demonstration at 5:18 really put black smearing into perspective and convinced me to go with an IPS monitor instead.
Smart choice, ignore the guy who probably doesn't own a VA panel monitor. I own a VA panel and will never ever waste my $ on another VA panel ever.
@@JasonSmith-pn6ch you have to choose the best monitors with VA tech, Samsung Odyssey 7 shits on most IPS/TN panels (only possible downside is the 1000R curve of the screen, might be a bit too much for most people)
@@wallacesousuke1433 Shouldn't the major downside be that it is over $800?
@@fuiwfnbnufjehnfojui4251 nope? It's worthy every penny, 240Hz, great contrast, 1440p, fast response, etc etc.
@@wallacesousuke1433 while i’m sure it’s a great product, just because something is “worth every penny” doesn’t mean it’s not a downside when compared to cheaper monitors.
excellent review, one of the most comprehensive and well explained comparisons i think I've ever seen. i think i'll have to go into store to actual see the panels though lol
Thx for this comparison! The black smearing with white text on dark background was the knockout for the VA panel. Because I am programing a lot in dark mode. That was very helpful.
THANK YOU, I was about to spend a little bit more in monitor with VA panel but seeing the ghosting and colors I'm definitely going for the IPS
Thank man, you help me a lot to understand the difference between those two!
Best IPS vs VA panel comparison ever date! Subbed!
thank you so much I learned a lot and your voice is so calming and straight to the point. God bless. Keeping my Dell 27 IPS S2721DGF 27
Wow, I was thinking a lot about which of the two panels to choose, and I was able to make a decision by watching this video. This is a very useful video. Thank you!
So what is your décision
after 9hr of reviews, this is the best one.
I agree lol. I was thinking like who spends 9hrs watching monitor's reviews. I just realized I've done 12hrs straight so far.
@@omarzarzourzamora984 lol 😂😂😂😂 .. I had spent about 2-3 months in laptops reviews daily to choose one
What's best for designing like ux and ui
He compared a decent IPS with a bad VA and that is the best review you've seen ? ...
This was really interesting actually, appreciate your time, keep it up ✌
This review was so fulfilling and satisfactory and really helped me understand these issues watching it on a 10 year old Samsung budget model LCD. 😊🤗
TOP comparison! thanks a lot, I almost bought a VA monitor myself, fortunately for me I saw this comparison first!
This was a really good video! Thank you!
Keep up this amazing work man , this video need alot of views
Great video, I've been pulling my hair out reading reviews but this actually showed it on screen! I'm now set on another IPS! Cheers 👍
Thank you so much for this amazing comparison!
thank you for doing this test, just wanna say it
Thank you! This is all I want to know! This video is on point.
Completely amazing comparison, Cleared my doubts. Thanks.
Thank you for putting the work to confirm advantages/disadvantages.
Thank you for such a good review! i was searching for a video like this for a while :)
Same, so I decided to make one!
5:20 Thanks for this side by side comparison of dark background and white text. I am programmer. I was looking for VA for better black colors but this showed there are other issues.
wich one did you chose?
So ips is better?
I think for people that like coding in the evenings etc. or in general prefer the dark editor color theme, it might be even worse on a VA - as I understand, smaller gray-to-gray transitions are even slower and that's precisely what happens in that case - dark editor themes do not use white text on black background, but a combination of colors with lower contrast so that they are more natural for human eyes not evolved for high contrasts in dark environments and don't cause retinal "burn-in" issues.
@@maddymuhat8079 No,ips is has awful contrast and black levels.
@@ntz752 yeah u are right
Thanks very much for this side-by-side comparison! Now I do understand that IPS panel is the preferred choice for me!
Your narration and experiment is so clear on this topic without much technical jargon ; is really helpful for every one who is in confusion in this subject. thanks to you for saving me from a wrong decision . I am going to IPS . HOPE YOU WILL MAKE MORE VIDEO LIKE THIS >>>> STAY HEALTHY and WELL.
Amazing Video man, Ips vs Va and i'm watching this on my Tn laptop screen. lovely.
Best review! Thanks mate. Now I am going IPS all the way
IPS sucks in dark scenes in games
Thank god for this video!! I've been trying to figure out what the difference is, as I'm buying a new monitor online to replace my current monitor which I hate! I have eye issues and my current monitor isn't as bright as I need, and the 'graininess' of the screen really squiks my eyes. I use an apple Mac laptop and the clear display has ruined lol. I've been trying to avoid buying a monitor online that has the same 'grainy' screen texture, but wasn't sure what to look for. I know this review has more to do with the display tech, but very helpful in my research! Thank you!
A very nice view. Some stuff I did not notice anywhere before. Thanks
This is the best video on the subject; thank you !
IPS for the win.. glad I pick up an Aorus AD27QD from 2019.. so damn great monitor. loved it..
Thank you so much! Really helped me with the panel choice. I am definetly going for an IPS panel.
wow. I have a VA and I haven't really noticed the black smearing until now. Now that you pointed it out, it's harder not to see. Interesting. good comparison.
Why this channel got only 373 subs? It deserves more
Well those subs sure went up a lot in 2 months 😂
thanks a lot... I've been researching for a few days trying to decide for one of these panels... I was already like 89% sold on IPS cos I knew it had better color accuracy but lots of my friends and reading online and watching other videos said it wasn't as bad and it was way more worth going for a VA panel mainly for avoid the "ips glow" effect that are very well known in the IPS space.. but after watching this video I'm now 100% sold on IPS. I enjoy a lot of movies, anime, and games and I rather have the best image quality as possible, and now days we have IPS with 1ms (GtoG) so no real reason for go for VA anymore.
Be careful with IPS panels though. Nano IPS panels specifically. It strain your eyes very badly, even only after minutes. It's very unhealthy and definitely not recommended by A LOT of people. Check out any forum for that. ( I own a 2720hfa alienware 240hz monitor with nano ips panel and I am selling it. ) I had aoc va panel before and yes I agree smearing is bad but, liveable and you can get used to it. Although I would still choose IPS (if you have the money of course). IPS is so much more expensive. It's insane. The most decent monitor would be a G7. Hands down, best monitor out there. I am buying that when they take this one away.
@@laszlopinter8847 no idea abou that "nano ips" thing your talking about I did ended up buying an IPS tho, but is a budget 27" 1080p 177hz panel. The eye strain you talking about I didn't really had any issues although I do use glasses (I come from CRT era so I'm very familiar with eye strain) Thanks tho for the heads up maybe it will help some1 else in the future!
buy a 90+% dci-p3 VA panel, and you'll love watching anything on it, blacks are almost near OLED levels.. almost
Now my struggle of finding which panel is better comes to an end. Thanks for this Crystal clear comparison mate, Cheers!
which panel is better for coding work and reading? IPS or VA? thanks friend
@@phenixwutao if you like a screen that has darker black and doesn't mind the limited viewing angles go for VA. I went for IPS cause I play and watch animes a lot so I can enjoy the 180 viewing angles and colorful display
Dude thank you for that. You helped me so much
Great comparison ! I am really amazed cause i already have a VA panel and have none of the issues such as black smearing and ghosting. I even tested with black background and white text and it was like the ips of your video, not even the slightest black smearing or ghosting !
Which monitor du you got?
@@moritzhaaks609 AOC C24G1 24" FHD 144Hz 1ms
Amazing review, probably the best!!!
Such a great informative video you've made. So glad I watched this.
A really professional video! Glad this was recommended to me.
Great video! Especially loved the black smearing part! I found mobile OLEDs also guilty of black smearing at low brightness. I definitely won’t be able to live with it!
i'm looking one for coding primarily and have been considering VA monitor as it is generally cheaper. The website you created definitely a deal breaker for me. almost 70-80% my uses are on black / night mode from IDE, text editor, terminal. It's scary to think how i'm gonna live with that. Thank you so much for taking time creating this. Definitely one of the best comparison on YT. Practical and straightforward.
So what do you think, am programmer too and i need a 34 inch curved monitor which 90% of them are VA and the IPS in in 34 inch is so expensive, what is your advice
@@dontask9383 LG 34GL750-B 34" Ultra Gear Gaming monitor kzhead.info/sun/dZeqaL2dlquwlY0/bejne.html
What monitor you bought?
in person its not so bad, unless you've been using IPS panels for at least a few years before I own a few budget VA panels for coding
if most of your use is in black mode, then VA is definitely the better option
Thank you for the thorough and comprehensive review
Great review. Helped me pull the trigger on the Dell 2721DGF that I found on sale for $380, which is IPS, and I'm extremely happy with it.
What is the experience with this monitor?
@@DeathTHEGUM I've been very happy with my Dell monitor, it's the same panel from the LG in this video with some minor tweaks.
Very good comparison. Two things to notice. 1. If we are using dark mode for coding I would prefer IPS. 2. In most of the comparison videos(other brand VA display) VA panels are little warmer than IPS. But Viewsonic managed that.
I swear by ViewSonic. I love their products.
This white leak on the left down corner on IPS panel 06:10, is this normal? Every IPS pannel has it? Or this is a problem with this monitor?
@@FallenLight0 every ips panel it's called black glow or something, usually it's barely visible in the 4 corners but it depends on viewing angle
@@PurpleGuyUSA I see, thanks
@@FallenLight0 My 2nd LG 22MN430M not like that, but in my 1st Philips 242V8A has a white leaked, me called Bleeding, and still want take to Service Center for replace it :(
Thank you so much for this! I was contemplating buying a VA monitor, but after seeing that black smearing on the white text on dark background, it is a no-go for me
Do you think all brands are like veiwsonic though? Are you sure you would get that on a HP, Samsung or LG VA monitor? I highly doubt that. That's just poor quality control within one company. It doesn't represent VA technology overall.
@@justdev8965You will get the same shit
Thank you bro, this is the best IPS vs AV comparison in youtube! nice job
Ty for this. Having the debate myself but couldn't get a great answer. Going with IPS!
Dude this is the single best video I've seen comparing the two panels. No fluff, no bullshit, just straight facts. Please continue in this trend. This sounds strange but your voice is also amazing. You don't speak fast or too slow, and you don't have any weird inflections. You have a nice clear sounding deep voice as well.
Unintentional ASMR
What's best for designing like ux and ui?
Watching on my phone because it has a better screen than my monitor xD Edit: As someone who uses dark mode on everything, the smearing instantly made me not want to risk a VA. Good video.
Thank you, this was the best examples of the difference between IPS and VA panels.
Fantastic video Been fighting this issue on two seperate 4K displays and one 1440p display with going back and replaying borderlands 1, and the new 7 days 2 die update - both games exhibit the same issue you see in the scrolling text test, where blacks sort of fade in and out, and details are invisible while moving - you have to stop aiming or moving to see whats going on, you cant strafe sideways or aim AND see what's happenig on screen as it all smears together
Great comparison. I want to buy monitor for playing games at night so I was leaning more toward the VA panels because of the deeper blacks and higher contrast ratio but I wasn't aware that they have black smearing which is a deal breaker for me. I'm going for the IPS then. Many thanks, your video is great!
This review was an eye-opener! Having almost all programs in dark mode with white text would be a nightmare in VA, especially coding.
Eh, smearing while coding in a dark mode (Well, in my experience a dark grey background) isn't the worst on a VA. It's not bad enough that I can't scroll through my code quickly to identify the blocks I'm looking for, and most of the time the image is static. I have a PLS, IPS and VA in my monitor setup and my main coding window usually lives on my VA because the smearing doesn't effect it's functionality. I don't like to game on my VA, though.
@@carlsonmcphallus7366 which would you recommend for content consumption and light gaming? and does the color ratio of IPS bother you?
@@sigmacrow6783 You mean the contrast ratio? Yes, it does bother me. The black smearing of the VA is the real kicker though. I got used it, I don't let it bother me. But, if you're the kind of person who lets those details bother you, it can be hard to overlook. For me, now, I use my VA for most tasks. Video, work, gaming. I got used to the smearing in gaming, doesn't bother me now. Just make sure you check out detailed monitor reviews before buying any monitor; there are bad monitors of every type. Also, don't overlook input latency.
@@carlsonmcphallus7366 Thanks man, I will keep in mind while buy a new monitor for my pc. :D
@@carlsonmcphallus7366but on 5:20 it just looks terrible how extreme smearing is, does it vary on monitor brand or is it common on all VA monitors??
Thanks man, was so conflicted on the lg and this video helped me
this is awesome, thank you for the review!
As someone who frequently watches logs, I’m really glad I went with IPS rather than VA now. That worst case you showed is pretty normal for me.
...not really? I have a VA panel. The only time I've seen black smearing was when I connected a PS3 to it, because obviously the games there run at 60 FPS or lower. Not a single problem with PC.
Ips glow will bother you
@@unknown185 it doesn’t? but i appreciate the concern.
@@MJSonOfHarry it does. If you have an black background (dark mode apps, games and other), you will notice it. Going from va to ips SUCKS.
@@unknown185 no i mean i personally am not bothered. sorry to hear you had such a bad experience though
Man this video is a life saver. I planned to buy a VA monitor as my main one, but it seems to suck for both gaming and coding (the two things I'll do mostly), so I'll probably stick to a previous IPS monitor I had in mind. A lot of thanks for your time and effort in your research 😊
i bought a 240hz Acer VA panel and it does not suffer from.such black smearing effect and the colors are popping and contrast are pretty good
@Nicholas Acosta Yes and no , it depends on the panel itself and even sometimes from one to the next .. I had 2 VA monitor identical model and one had black smearing the other didnt , both using the same overdrive setting everythiing . So its a per unit basis .. Some have very good overdrive setting that negate most of the black smearing . Some simply have it
@@stew360 Hi, could you share the model name? I'm looking for a VA panel
@Zul Yes but i bought 2 and 1 of the 2 had black smearing and the Overdrive did not work properly enough to compensate for my taste the other was good So its Panel lottery i guess Acer Nitro XZ3 XZ273U Xbmiiphx 27" WQHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 240Hz (Using Display Port), 1ms (GtG) Both were the same model 1 had black smearing the other didn't exact same brand exact same model i kept one and returned the other !
@@zulhailmie i have the samsung Odyssey G7 and it has no black smearing at all. Best monitor ive ever owned
Nice job. Thanks for your analysis.
Nice video, man! Thank you. I was planning to grab a IPS monitor. Now I'm practically sure about do it.
Me watching this video on a OLED Panel
What panel ?
on a phone proberly
@@stefanievandervis7932 no TV
@@system450 I'm not Sergio, but me I am watching this on a 48" LG CX OLED. Want to talk about black levels? Get an OLED, anything else is fan fiction eheh (I have my previous 43" LG IPS side by side as a secondary monitor so I can actually tell how the difference between the two is night and day).
Me too on my Oneplus 7T Pro 90hz Oled wqhd
Nice comparison. I'm using a VA panel and yes the black smearing is real, but it doesn't bother me much.
Wow! Excellent comparison. Thank you for making this video.
Best IPS vs VA panel comparion on the INTERNET dude, I was about to buy a VA panel after sseeing the reviews from big youtubers, but you literally saved me, especially the White text on black background test... THANKs a bunch mate
A well thought out practically relevant fantastic review because you show visually what the differences are to the human eye. VA is definitely a no-go for me when I eventually buy a 4K monitor. The black smearing looks terrible. Granted the IPS tech. has lower contrast ratios however it does not look 'defective' just not as good contrast wise. Now to decide on 28" or 32" for 4K.
Definitely 32 inches. 28 goes with 1080p or 1440p for better sharpness
Quality content ❤️🔥
Thanks, I knew va had pretty bad black smearing but I didn't suspect it was that bad, since I had never seen it and had instead looked at measurements. Now I know I'm going for 1440p240hz IPS hopefully they get to some $500- soon
thank you so much for going straight to the point
Those "deeper blacks" on VA are useless in my opinion, because you must increase your brightness so you have less black smearing because of VA's technology. Any movement on a VA panel messes things up; for instance, if you have a star dotted sky and the scene moves, the stars dissapear while the camera moves, because the black pixels take too long to change from black to a color. I use a 34 inch ultrawide 2k VA display for working, general computer usage and gaming. Its fine for casual use but for gaming is not that good, and sometimes my mouse dissapears while everything is still normal on my older TN display.
Increasing brightness will not reduce the black smearing much at all but decreasing contrast will, and yes your correct decreasing contrast makes black into grey but it also makes a va panel not literally hurt your eyes while using it, i am currently the owner of a va panel and i run it at half of the stock contrast settings in nvidia control panel to make it even slightly usable
I might try to decrease contrast later@@nerd20fromdiscord
Few years ago I bought VA (from MSI) and I had chance to compare with quite old IPS monitor (aoc brand). And I had same results... I was very disappointed by VA panel. So I decided to return VA and I bought new 144hz, g-sync IPS panel. It was quite expensive, but definitely better choice.
You can find right now within 250-400€ bracket quite good such panels (IPS, 144Hz, G-Sync/Freesync Premium). 4-6 years ago, they were the best thing since sliced bread and were costing usually more than 600€. Personally, I love the clarity (PPI) of the 27" 4K, but it's typically at 60Hz only and require far better CPU and GPU as well since the resolution requires a lot of horsepower.
simple and understandable 👍👍 best va / ips comparison video
Thank you for bringing this comparison with programming. I always find video about gaming. Of course this type of monitor is for play games, but, we must know how is normal use
Coming from IPS for almost 15 years now and trying VA for once (due to I needed an ultrawide real estate for my work), in coloration: VA is surprisingly tolerable for color work-related purposes, but VA still has its downside esp when it comes to bleed, full black screen, and to others you might even noticed some unevenness (I got lucky my current VA monitor was well-manufactured and its stock calibration is good). But if purely for gaming though, VA and IPS doesn't really factor that much to be honest. In the end, it can still boils down to the quality of the product: A well-optimized and quality VA monitor is worth considering and can be a good alternative to a decent or average quality IPS monitor.
Technically, outside of literally two transitions or something, there's Samsung VA panels that are faster than anything besides the fastest 240hz IPS monitors out right now. They all have their own issues though.
@@KindOldRaven That Odyssey G7 would be on my radar if it weren't for the prohibitive price point. Seems like a great all-rounder.
If you want to watch content, a good VA is better than a good IPS
@@jotapeeee4009 VAs are actually improving more than ever before, it really is just that when it comes to color accuracy, IPS would have it better as that's what it's exactly made for, thus editors to professional visual type of works would opt to have one at least.
Especially for games like Skyrim.
Can you do one between IPS vs TN? This is by far the best review I've seen.
TN is almost exclusively for gamers because of its fastest response time. However, it has the worst picture quality.
Finally found a detailed video, covering all the aspects. Thank you so much. Saving us from all the crap on KZhead.
tyvm for the review!
I had bought an insanely expensive VA monitor back around 2004, an EIZO, i forget how much it was. I returned it right away due to VA black smear. It was pungent, sticky. Since i program and engineer and need to scroll through insane amounts of text, text becoming completely illegible during scrolling was not acceptable, and it was affecting black text on white background too. This was before Overdrive was invented though. I hoped these things would have gotten better by now. I wonder how much colour choice can alleviate the issue. For example my usual editor black isn't really black, it's just a slightly brownish tinted dark grey.
In this 30 years of my PC crusade I had a lot of monitors, IPS, TN, VA... and now I'm using Philips 165Hz 32" VA panel. And yes, it has smearing but I'm not annoyed about that. In most games smearing isn't so noticeable - only if you are looking maniacally for that. What I like and prefer over other monitors are really deeper blacks and non-existence of GLOWING of IPS (you forget to mention that) and, the most important: richer colors and saturation. VA panels (especially Philips' ones) are capable of more vivid colors and that's game changer for me.
10 years with IPS (Asus VX239H), and still don't notice something called "glow"
@@KvantVS You're blind then. I've had the same monitor (and more others through this 30 years of my hanging with computers) and there's a glow. EVERY SINGLE ONE IPS has it. That's how they function. Also, they are prone to ghosting but not so noticeable.
@@mirovinac3968 Oh, really? Can't do without offense? Even at an angle there is a flawless image. I think it's just that some people are sensitive to some characteristics and others people aren't, it is uncritical or not noticeable and vice versa. Here is my video, btw: v=YRfXLYUM0sI. ASUS VX239H with 9-10 years of using.
@@KvantVS Yeah, just google it. You are lucky you can't see it.
On my Philips VA the colour saturation was pretty bad. The stock colours were alright but as soon as I turned up the gamma (which I always do for gaming) the colours became really washed out. With high gamma the colours were worse than on my old TN benq esports monitor. On my IPS monitor I can turn up the gamma really high and the colours stay vibrant. The philips VA only looked good for dark colours so I sent it back
Man, thank you a lot for sharing this video with us!
Great Video. Good well explained testing and results. Thank you.
This is what people want to see when comparing two technologies. Thank you for this amazing review.
Nice video... overall i think it also depends on the producer and the brand... i have a Samsung 21.9 monitor and i think it handles the problems much better... i never noticed a real disavantage (except the viewing angle, that's on every va panel the same i guess)
What about smearing while using dark mode coding?
One of the rare reviews showing the tech visual proof...all the others say VA not even showing why, thanks a lot
Thank You! You helped me a lot!!!