The Best Argument for the Existence of God - Jordan Peterson
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The moment we ask, “Why am I here,” proves we are not just animals. When we understand the universe is just rocks and that life is far too complex to be random chance, we see the divine. The moment we open our eyes and admit we are limited and flawed in living with others we realize the reason we are here. Those who insist on focusing strictly on material things disregard the spiritual. They do not recognize that we are limited creatures living temporary lives whose five senses cannot discern everything in the universe. They believe, in their ignorance, that science has all the answers when science is still in its adolescence.
I kind of agree with this but you just said that life is far too complex to be random. That makes no sense because the complexity of life and the size of the Universe, the possibility of life and the evolution of life is infinite, so there is an infinite possibility that we exist, but that is still random, 1 small change in evolution and we wouldn't have existed at all.
@@L0rdShad0wz So, this belief once again makes us so rare in the universe by virtue of being the most infinitesimal possibility. It’s saying that we are the only intelligent beings and the only life making us the center of the universe. Essentially that, if there no God who is the intelligent designer, then “we are the gods.” It also infers that when we die we just cease to exist because we are nothing more than a random clump of cells and electro-chemical impulses. Therefore, there is no morality by which we should live except for whatever we feel like doing.
@@dustyk103 Just because we are born, we live for a short period of time and then we cease to exist doesn't mean that there no longer is a morality for which we need to live our lives. We decide ourselves how we live our life, regardless of whether you believe we were here because we were specifically created to be here or because we simply evolved into an intelligent species from single cell organisms.
How do you know what animals think?
@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 Because I’m an intelligent human being
Man, when I turned my life over to Jesus I learned pretty quickly that it wasn’t Him not there for me my whole life, I just hadn’t turned to Him. God bless anyone who’s struggling or battling demons, I nearly killed myself many times through my 34 years but God showed me His mercy, love and Grace, AMEN!
You are supposed to turn your life over to god. I’ve been debating religion for almost 20 years now. You can believe in a high power all you want, but to believe in the christian bible god is for the illogical. You were hurting and needed communion and you found it in a religious community. But you can do better bro. Don’t be a slave.
@@johnlittle5267 I know it through and through. Was raised from 6yrs to 17 going to church and decided I’d figure life out on my own. It got very dark over the next 13 years. As an adult man I wanted to research religions, God, Big Bang and anything that would deepen my understanding. I came back to the KJV because the evidence is, Jesus lived, was 100% historically real and His words were accurate. So many instances while studying I had these “wow” moments, I couldn’t deny the evidence of God all around me anymore. We all have a choice and free will to answer those questions over our lifetime. The urgency with Christianity is that our souls are eternal. Thanks for commenting I really do enjoy hearing others beliefs
Stay strong and focus with God Almighty through Jesus Christ our Savior. Don't let anyone deceived you or distract you. We should remain in union with Christ body. God Almighty bless you brother 🙏
@@itskeagan3004 good to hear you found god... you sound like one of the good christian people who were mentioned in Quran chapter 28 ‘the stories’
jesus didnt exist
How is this an argument for the existence of a god?
it isn’t he is ignoring critical thinking and instead thinking with delusional reason to try and justify his statement
Because when he spews a bunch of crap, he thinks he is making a convincing argument. He is not. Also, there are enough people who, not understanding what he said, presume it must be correct and that it is only their ignorance causing them to not understand this man's "great wisdom".
He is agnostic
I don't think he really was making an argument for the existence of God lol, seems more like a click-baity title
I think it’s an argument for a higher self that exists in the subconscious. Not a god.
If this is the best argument for god's existence, god needs better marketing.
Lmao true
God said he created the sun to govern the day the moon to govern the night why do the two appear to be exactly the same size (as we see in an eclipse)to us when in actuality what is 400 times larger than the other but yet is 400 times further away...to me that can't just happen
@@gearyheidinewaccount3237the sun is 400x the distance from the moon as the moon is to earth. So when it’s that far away it appears similar in size. For example, if you had a skittle and placed it up eye level, and right behind that skittle was a house, the house would be much much bigger… Move 400x the distance away from that house and align the house up with the skittle at eye level, and it’ll be close to the same size
@@gearyheidinewaccount3237very true! Or how our Earth’s axis is tilted to a specific degree, so we don’t burn or freeze but have the perfect temperature for life.
@@thunderstruck7878 It depends on your perspective. Is it that the conditions are perfect enough for us to exist, or is our existence simply a biproduct of these specific conditions which are bound to happen given the size of the universe
'Celestial butler' is my new favorite term 😂😂
@@thetej2227look in to getting real help
Yeah, this butler hasn't brought me my slippers and a drink yet!
"You don't know where the Spirit is coming or going from but you can always recognize His effects"
Yes , it’s called self fulfilling prophecy. Argue for it and it’s yours
That’s handy!!!
Or maybe these effects are literally just regular events and Christians are too obsessed with saying “GOD DID THIS, GOD DID THAT” to realize it
Have you heard about confirmation bias?
Yeah all the suffering and awful nonsense this world offers clearly proofs god’s existence.
I never asked a spiritual being for anything other and spiritual help. I never asked God to give me riches, but ask to give me things LIKE STRENGTH or with CLARITY OF MIND or INSPIRATION to be able to achieve what I need to on my own*! LIKE SunTzu SAID (im paraphrasing*) "A GREAT GENERAL IS NOT ONE WHO, AT THE END OF A GREAT VICTORY, THE MEN WILL SAY "OUR GENERAL WON US A GREAT VICTORY" BUT WILL SAY "OUR GENERAL HELPED US; TO WIN THIS BATTLE, OURSELVES!" 🤨👍🏻
So "God helps those who help themselves"-- but if you are helping yourself, what is God doing? Cheerleading? So then he's just a lucky charm that boosts your confidence.
Jordan looks like the kind of guy that starts getting ready at 5:30 am and is ready to go around 8:15
Can you explain this pls?
Tf are you talking about
I think he’s tryna imply that Jordan has this always prepared vibe to him 😂
Yeah it takes him nearly 3 hours to get ready. Math.
@ajneufeld762 no he just eats sausage and goes
Dear Lord I'm so thankful for Jordan and his intellect that you have selected to give him.His Short videos are addictive and so informative. I thank you for creating such a person to try to explain to the not so intelligent like me!!🤭✝️✝️👍
God can use him for his purposes but Jordan does not belong to God, Jordan has confessed that himself. You best pray that God save his so that Jordan hear the gospel and respond to it in kind! Just because God can use Jordan's words for his purpose does not mean that Jordan's soul is secure.
Amen
My holy Lord understands all languages and sees into all souls. Men have translated all versions of the His Words and Will. God knows what he said and what he meant. I think Jordan is safe if God is allowed to have His way, unrestricted by men.
Do you understand what he has said? If you do and agree then the only logic is that the bible is made up nonsense. If God is beyond human comprehension then how could a man made book possibly explain God's will and stories?
No No No No Jordan was not SELECTED by God. I wish stupid people would stop bigging up intelligence when they've admitted they're too stupid to understand it.
Does anyone know where to find the full version of this conversation? _Please stop sending responses, it has been answered as Jordan Peterson's Exodus Bible Study. Thank you, greatly appreciate the answers._
Leaving a comment for a reminder
Leaving comment for a reminder. I'll probably find it myself.
@@oracle_8947 Thank you.
His own yt chan
@@oracle_8947
Like so many arguments for a god, this boils down to "To show that a god exists, first assume that a god exists..."
Exactly
The only time I want to hear "first assume that a god exists" in a proof is in a proof by contradiction
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Actually, it's ok to make an asumption like that. The technique is to make contradictory proof. You asume that God exists. However, at the end of the explanation, you know that God doesn't exist, since from the characteristics of God itself can't fulfill the asumption.
@@ibrahimerlangga6460 yeah... like I just said.
This is what I did on my deathbed. I couldn’t breathe, and was leaving my body, and I asked in my mind to be brought back to be in service to God. The next second, I could breathe.
And that proves?
damn then all other Christians died for nothing
It was nice of God to change his grand, perfect plan after you asked him to. I thought he wad omnipotent and omniscient though....didn't he know you didn't want to die before you asked him?
and this is why i think ppl who believe in god on this app are bots farming likes and illiterate ppl who believe anything they hear
yes. yes he did. but God gave us free will. he let us have a choice. because what is love, if you don't have control over it? and he chose to deticate his life to God. and so he was given the chance to perfect his holy spirit and soul. and the chance to help other to repent and preach the gospel. repent my friend. believe in Jesus. and admit that you are a sinner. God bless you @@cl34ve
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Trust God and come to Him with all of you.Jesus Loves you Edit: Thanks for my brothers/sisters in the comment section. I love you all and of course Jesus loves you all ❤️❤️
Provide evidence this happens
@@tomdebevoisethey will never be able to produce proof.
To believe in something, especially the existence of God is called having Faith, or in other words WITHOUT evidence. So when an indivudual does have Faitj, he or she can experience overwhelming EVIDENCE from the presence of God (Jesus).
@@tomdebevoiseI'm sick of athiests like you asking for evidence. The awareness of God is in everyone's conscience. And in creation.
@@tomdebevoise The existence of Jesus is evidence. Look to any religion, not once has their false god's interacted with them on a personal level.
That's not an argument. It's more like a feeling. A fallacy even if it sounds nice.
I am hoping the title means "The best argument for why it would be nice if God existed". Otherwise people who hear this and think it proves the existence are very silly.
The “divine” arises from the sense that our lives are so miraculous given that it was chance-taking self-animated matter-that life found itself inextricably tied from what isn’t by same force
It is an indisputable scientific fact that believers in one or many gods live lives that are not only happier, but longer and more productive (with the exception of a few particularly toxic faiths). Believers commit less crimes and believers function better in society. All other things being equal, everyone should want their neighbor to be religious, their employees and boss to be religious, and if religion were a pill which provided those benefits, everyone would take it. They should want themselves to be religious. It is fair to ask, then, why the universe is structured this way. If religion is a lie, why would everyone who believes in lie be better at LIVING. This is actually the opposite of what we would normally expect. The scientific method and growth of scientific knowledge has taught us that believing in and adhering to real things is pretty much always a better way to function in the world. It doesn't make sense. Unless there IS some kind of divine.
Your wrong
This is about discussion among peers about God. It's not meant to show evidence of anything but just a discussion around the philosophy of the beliefs. Religious people are used to these kinds of discussions. It's a weird time now when discussion around beliefs not religious related have to take on a devout level without question even though, you have to believe it on the same level of religion. You can't find examples of those beliefs in nature. You have to just accept them. You are either phobic or a believer. You are either somehow oppressive, or a believer.
I wish people would put the name of the music they use into the description. It’s subtle but effective.
"You're almost drunk on symbolism." Dawkins on Peterson
haven't heard that one but describes it nicely 👍
Dawkins is a scientist and I do not take his opinions on the subject of metaphysics and philosophy at large seriously. Symbolism has been a key part of philosophy right back to its beginnings with Plato. Peterson can go a bit overboard with the jungian archetypes but saying yhat is like saying Dawkins is drunk on empirical evidence. Like yeah no shit thats a key component of the subject he specialises in.
@@eoghan-uk9yi Peterson is a psychologist, and I do not take his opinions on the subject of metaphysics and philosophy at large seriously.
@@ltmt662 the psychology that peterson deals with and talks about largely is the philosophy *of* psychology, mostly derived from Jung. If you've ever read Jung then you'd know thar symbolism is an integral part of his works in this subject.
@@eoghan-uk9yi the biology that Dawkins deals with and talks about largely is the philosophy of biology, mostly derived from Darwin. See how that works? Jung was a legit scholar who knew latin and ancient greek, Peterson is not comparable to him, and he's shit with philosophy
If one has God's love in their heart , they know who he is , but they don't know, everything God knows, I feel,..🙏🌞
Then wouldn’t everyone know god?
@@lensenstark9819 Not everyone’s love can endure everything
@@lensenstark9819 Yes. God has given everyone a touch of faith. Read Romans 1:16-21. To fully know God is impossible in this life, but to open yourself up in the right way, like Peterson said, and ask for how it is to transform yourself to become a better agent to the Devine will, He shows himself more and you can know him better. It is a sweet revelation, each time.
@@victoriacampbell7651 Do you really want god to show himself?
@@lensenstark9819 Yes. He has revealed himself to everyone to some degree. He is terribly amazing. The more I know him intimately, the more I want to know him.
I have a UNIQUE relationship with Jesus. I behold many secrets. He is Very real! Amen
@raider7829 Please read Isaiah 43:10 to 13 , Isaiah 44 verses 6 to 8, Isaiah 45:5 to 8 and verses 21 to 25, Isaiah 46:5 to 13, Isaiah 48:12 to 13. God is one, He is the first meaning that He does not have a father, and He is the last meaning He does not have a god-like son.
Ah yes, everyone likes to feel like they have found the answer.
@@rooks786 That is true, but there is those out there that are more then willing to change their current beliefs if they find out their wrong at something, and that make peoples life better, and i am one of those people, i am not afraid to change my mind, i prayed to God for Him to teach me about Him and God helped me find out i was wrong at somethings i believed and God helped me correct those things troughtout the years, and i am still open minded and learning, and my life got much much better because of this, so now i want to help people out there that may be trapped in the fear of change or that do'nt even see their wrong at something because they don't stop to think about it.
Hallelujah 🙌 Glory Hallelujah 🙌 🙏
@@odoga4095 so that he would give his only son
God is awesome and real 🙏
I would quite enjoy a conversation with you, if you can talk tell me but i really dont feel God as a nice guy. You know? Like if you are saying that so you dont't burn in hell, thats fine. But god allows his children to be tortured for ETERNETY in hell. I mean, that's not cool. And some things in bible are preaty wild. I'm from a cristian family so I read the whole thing. Just an exemple: Deuteronomy 21 verses 10 onwards 10 When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. Like, our god seems like a monster by not only allowed, but encouraging and guiding this kind of thing
@@ceccascorp8149I'm glad you're open to a proper conversation! But the thing is, I believe the Original commenter isn't saying what he/she is saying just to get into heaven. I'm sure he/she is saying it from the bottom of their heart as they truly mean it. Additionally, all these verses you pulled up from the Old Testament, you have to take all of them I context as to what was going on at the time. The isrealites are obviously in conflict in these verses. They are trying to gain victory over their original captors and God is on their side as the attackers were heathens. Anyway, those verses dont apply anymore because it is parts of the Old Testament that weren't enforced I the New Testament, making them kind of outdated in a way. Also God is not evil, God is righteously just and the embodiment of pure Love.😊
@@ceccascorp8149Another thing, God doesn't just "allow" his children be tortured in hell forever. You see, hell is esentially just separation from God and is a place where those who rejected God go. God obviously doesn't want anyone to go to hell at all, but it is through people's own will that they end up there. Through the rejecting of His word and even the rejecting of Him as concept. Heaven is essentially being in the presence of God and God is so loving, he will never force you to be with him against your will. If you really wanted to go to heaven, you would seek him out.
@@ceccascorp8149 He gave us free will. Would you let your children (if you don’t have any just imagine it) smoke, abuse other people, drink alcohol, hurt and kill other people etc. ? I guess not, except you are crazy. You would have to punish them. God loves us so much, we can‘t even imagine his great love for us. He gives us SO much time to finally find the truth and to repent. He gives us very much time. But one day, His patience will come to an end, He can‘t be patient for all eternity. One day He has to end this fallen society. He gifted us with His word, the Bible, so he clearly gave us rules on how to live our lives, but people STILL do not follow it. He even sacrificed His OWN SON Jesus Christ so that we can be freed from our sins!! People who choose to be with evil, the devil, shall be with the devil. It‘s your own choice… Choose God or choose evil, there‘s no in between.
@@derek1734 Exactly!! Amen 🙏
"How to be a better agent of the divine will" --- life's not about taking, it's about helping and serving
Life's about living
@@Vicky-fl7pv Sure, go smoke some crack. Why don't you go deal it too, that would be a rush
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"
The State is not my God.
Nothing
It was totally Thomas Jefferson who said that
@@Psris123wow bro how prophetic
Nope. govt is not God.
The known...The unknown...The unknowable ✨
Thank god we don't have to "know" something in order to experience it 🤗 most people don't know how Internet works, how an aeroplane works or ever how the WIFI works 😀 but still they can enjoy it.
@@btdoe3259exactly
Oh really? Here let’s go over the Evidence for God. We know the universe is governed by precise mathematical laws of Physics. Rule of newton puts it-there cannot be laws without a lawmaker. All laws require intelligence to formulate and intelligence to understand which include humans. Compiled Laws put in place such as laws of thermodynamics demonstrate time initiated the universe yet there was a timeless cause. The universe a pendulum of time is clockwork, more complex than a Rolex watch. This alone calls for intelligent design any time of the week. We know God who has thoughts feelings ideas emotions made things in fours. Examples for the earth: there is four seasons fours elements four winds four sides to earths compass. That’s four fours. The grids used for maps is made up of foursquares of equal sides. In nature we have animals that walk on fours with typically four toes. Some have external fours such as tarantulas or octopus on sides. Humans have four fingers each hand excluding thumbs. Humans also grow four wisdom teeth. DNA which makes up all life is made up of four principle molecules. Gods name in Hebrew you guessed it four letters YHWH. The eden he made In the beginning had four rivers that crossed it, two of which still exist today. It seems clearly then that God left his fingerprints and name all over creation. It also seems apparent that God is highly intelligent for he did the math before we even discovered it. Keep in mind that science doesn’t tell you God does not exist, only lying dishonest individuals do……
@@btdoe3259We don't even know our own selves. We just call ourselves homo sapien.
Whatever gets you through the night folks.
LOL
Yup, it makes the boat stay a float
Funny how the only rude comment on this video is the atheist being an ass. Maybe some divine love would loosen you up, maybe find meaning in the world other than leaving hate comments on youtube for desperate attention.
the belief in God extends far greater than just "it makes people comfortable." Although it is true, there's a lot of utility in belief of God, there are also defensible probabilistic arguments for his existence.
The music is so annoying why do people constantly add it over someone who is making a profound point - the point should stand on its own
Because if the point needs music it's not actually a good point
A better agent of the divine will? Attempting to do this can lead you into the worst crisis that you've ever known. Trust me I know. I once found myself unable to be sure of any decision presented in front of me. Nobody will ever understand the pain . Don't let life get too complicated.
Exactly. Too much analysis causes paralysis.
@@hyacinthlynch843 what's weird and what scares me is how vulnerable we are as human beings. It's Really weird how a person can loose his/her sanity . Anyways in my experience I've realised that Family is key in the fight for control. Ain't nothing in the world more precious as having people who see your failure as theirs and your success as theirs.
Its actually simple love God with all your heart mind and soul and love your neighbor like you love yourself.
@@ccrow3355 exactly
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
History of humans in a nutshell
A better one: “A psychopath will use whatever tool is most convenient to harm others, even a tool otherwise helpful to all.”
@FrozenBoy Atheists have committed far more atrocities in the last century im then all religions combined did in the last century
Hitler was an atheist, Stalin was an atheist, chairman Mao was an atheist. Meanwhile the middle east and Europe have been engaging in holy wars as long as history can remember. This is because there is only one extreme which is correct, and that is the love of Christ.
Wait, so religions are a net bad? You’re comparing moments in which atrocities have been made in the name of religion which pale in comparison to the amount of people that religions bind together combined with the amount of time it has done so. That number is in the BILLIONS and for thousands upon thousands of years. So I’m confused..what makes you say such a statement without actually thinking the thought through? You’re doing yourself an immmense disservice by even viewing things that way. It’s not cognitively robust.
Confounding the stupid is surprisingly easy. Simply say enough fancy words and you have them licking your shoes.
Thats JP in a nutshell.
Tbh the argument is fine idk what you're talking about and there are numerous studies that show that religion and spirituality is good for mental health and people whom believe in god have better physical health as well. That in of it self shows god acts upon those whom follow in his name and that he has real tangible effects on people he interacts with us. He's more immanent than you think.
@@dmtlover3128 Well of course thinking someone having your back would benefit your mental health, as well as indirectly affect your physical health. That isn’t surprising and still proves little to nothing.
@@flux_switch25 If you are to look at the argument from a purely analytic point of view sure it wouldn't prove much, but it still speaks to something true poetically. The west has given up God and culture and replaced it with 'progress' but what are we progressing to? Materialism is just something we've used to replace our inherent nature to strive towards the divine and yet it fails in of itself to do anything meaningful because the concept itself has shown to abuse it's participants in chasing short hits of dopamine for long-term anguish. We're drunk off modernism and God is the sobreity we need.
Suffering brings you to God.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 did he just say "celestial butler" omg l love him even more. I love that he also has a sense of humor. Most intellects don't.
@@CavalrytoCanaan Yes, many comedians are very smart, but comedians tend to focus on comedy and are mainly seen as funny people to the general public. I believe that OP is referring to the "intellects" who focus on relaying information to us by challenging/stretching our brains through teaching & debate.
Which is why I've never laughed at anything jordan has said....
Yeah, I think the fact that he claims he believes in a flying man with a straight face is hilarious 😂
@@smartestgirl Since you missed the facts. Here let’s go over the Evidence for God. We know the universe is governed by precise mathematical laws of Physics. Rule of newton puts it-there cannot be laws without a lawmaker. All laws require intelligence to formulate and intelligence to understand which include humans. Compiled Laws put in place such as laws of thermodynamics demonstrate time initiated the universe yet there was a timeless cause. The universe a pendulum of time is clockwork, more complex than a Rolex watch. This alone calls for intelligent design any time of the week. We know God who has thoughts feelings ideas emotions made things in fours. Examples for the earth: there is four seasons fours elements four winds four sides to earths compass. That’s four fours. The grids used for maps is made up of foursquares of equal sides. In nature we have animals that walk on fours with typically four toes. Some have external fours such as tarantulas or octopus on sides. Humans have four fingers each hand excluding thumbs. Humans also grow four wisdom teeth. DNA which makes up all life is made up of four principle molecules. Gods name in Hebrew you guessed it four letters YHWH. The eden he made In the beginning had four rivers that crossed it, two of which still exist today. It seems clearly then that God left his fingerprints and name all over creation. It also seems apparent that God is highly intelligent for he did the math before we even discovered it. Keep in mind that science doesn’t tell you God does not exist, only lying dishonest individuals do……
@@smartestgirlGod is not flying or a man
have a nice morning, day, evening everyone i came here to say only that
Who asked?
You to!
When you find your happiness you dont have to listen to anyone. Life isnt this complicated at all. Its your mind that’s complicated. If you can calm your mind enough just to see what’s happening around you and act accordingly either be or not be a part of it you have successfully beaten life.
If you don’t listen to anyone, your happiness is superficial because it doesn’t involve real connection - and therefore doesn’t involve Jesus, who commanded connection.
@@SAK1855 Nope. Happiness comes from within. You can't have real connections if you're not already in a good place.
@@SAK1855 happiness is within yourself and how you perceive this world. Jesus was just an illusionist who wanted to be famous.
@@micksnow2947 Fair enough, though Peterson embraces Christian narratives, or rather pretends to, so that’s the terrain on which I was making the case. Still, we are social animals, and the idea that happiness comes in isolation isn’t realistic or compatible with our nature.
The only way to feel happiness is to realize the amends we already made with the divine goodlifulness-that of what is tied to all forces and powers through the common self-volition of the matter scientists still look at, and perverts another way
God is like a prank caller threatening to bomb your house.
God is that which keeps you going after your house gets blown up.
Whats with the irony😂 what a boomer
God is what prevents your house from been blown up by living moral life
So you admit God exist….
@@jdos5643I don't fear God. I fear his increasingly deranged followers, to who his existence isn't very relevant
I think I awoken my third eye hearing this . Just WOW!
By ‘ hints ‘ he means poor evidence but then JP has never been that bothered by real evidence
For example ……?
Exactly, you don't need to enter into one of many religious groups. Just be the best person you can and have respect for others, that's all.
Where did Jesus say this?
@cruzlater5178 I said it, that's all. And I didn't even try to brainwash you in the process. Cheers and good luck Kiddo 👍🏻
I agree, but many muslims or christians will tell you that you need to follow there believes or you deserve to be punished for eternity.
@@Thedoctorlee999 You have it all backwards. The muslim god is a hateful slave master that kills anyone who disagrees with him, whereas YHWH the one true God is love, truth, beauty, logic, science, just and merciful. The truth is that by knowing YHWH God in this life you benefit from His love and grace in this life and the next. The negative consequence of rejecting God is eternal hell, which is simply a state without God’s goodness - your own free choice. It is no different to breathing. Breathe and you enjoy life. Don’t breathe and you suffocate. It is your free choice. God loves you and me and requires me to share this good news with you for your sake.
@@TheBarser You have it all backwards. The muslim god is a hateful slave master that kills anyone who disagrees with him, whereas YHWH the one true God is love, truth, beauty, logic, science, just and merciful. The truth is that by knowing YHWH God in this life you benefit from His love and grace in this life and the next. The negative consequence of rejecting God is eternal hell, which is simply a state without God’s goodness - your own free choice. It is no different to breathing. Breathe and you enjoy life. Don’t breathe and you suffocate. It is your free choice. God loves you and me and requires me to share this good news with you for your sake.
“Never was I to pray for myself, except as my requests bore on my usefulness to others. Then only might I expect to receive. But that would be in great measure.”
🙏 I pray for everyone who has to suffer in these difficult times of unrest and war. God loves you!
Does your God love babies when he gives them leukemia?
All I can say is once you suspend disbelief you start seeing Him everywhere.
You described a deluded mind perfectly.
@@keesdenheijer7283 Not exactly. In this life you are free to believe whatever you want, but after this life you will see things as they are.
@@ryanblais6208 "After this life you will see things as they are." How do you know?
@@keesdenheijer7283 well, I don’t, but how about we make a bet, if I’m right you have to buy me Starbucks in the afterlife.
@@ryanblais6208That’s all babble that has never been proven.
Nicely articulated. Too many people pray to the "divine butler" rather than seeking personal improvement. Others insist that the inherent disconnect between God and human suffering is evidence of a failed butler.
Exactly. Pray to change yourself, not God. It’s amazing how people who say God is perfect and unchanging also think if they pray enough, he’ll do something he otherwise wouldn’t have done.
That's his problem. All Jordans thoughts always cycle to self improvement. Like Ron l Hubbard he's intelligent but he's constantly Projecting his own internal struggle of schizophrenia onto the world. The question was how do you prove God not what is beneficial in relation to God.
@@SAK1855 There's no god. Pray is history's first attempt at a self pep talk.
@@heresjohnny602 And? All the more reason not to want divine gifts that come from nowhere.
@@heresjohnny602 Jordan does not suffer from schizophrenia. The notion that we all die and that life is full of struggles is self evident. The idea that humans create meaning in their life based on a higher purpose is psychological 101. Defining that higher purpose is an individual excersise, and Jordan postulates that we sometimes conceptualise that as God. L Ron Hubbard started a cult based on his Sci-Fi writing. He was absolutely not anything like Jordan.
“To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God.” Søren Kierkegaard
Yes you can know God! Through the acceptance of His son Jesus Christ. You know him through his spirit and through his son. When one accepts Him, he becomes VERY real. And you learn to know him.
This vid popped up on my feed. I came here to say this. I know God. Be well🤍🖤
Faith in Jesus of Nazareth alone won't bring you deliverance.
💀🤡😂
I AM FEELING NOT Witnessing
I like that he says when you are in service to others that the reason you find meaning is because you are closer to the sovone like it's just self evident hahah
Love concepts that make my head explode.
Salvation is an incessant uphill struggle and sometimes, after we've surrendered our egos to the rhythms of the work, we find moments of grace
When life leaves you dead in the water without a paddle is when you feel the current of the water that once felt still. Ask for Knowledge and things that benefit you as a person and your loved ones.
Hmmm 🧐
also maybe ask if any one can lend a paddle.
@@redbunny22 That would be equivalent to asking rich parents for help. No one has a paddle. My parents didn't and no one else on the river had one. Plus why would you do everything except ask God? especially when everything handed to you that's not from God, ends up being sabotage or a trap like for example, the paddle you ask to borrow is 4 inches long and weights 40 pounds and you're wondering where all the laughing is coming from as you try to use it. lmao. Then you get to shore many miles away and find out the mfr's had a nice paddle the whole time. never helped. just sat in the boat eating your food. THATS LIFE!
@@fourleafcloveer5011 in reality I completely agree it was just a smart alicky remark i made just to be silly.
@@redbunny22 oh sorry
Praying for a supernatural face to face encounter with God for Jordan Peterson, and everyone reading this comment.
Tell that to all the people being murdered every day, oh wait... you can't :)
@@ocrisem2741 hopefully they have asked God into their hearts, and said out loud that Jesus is Lord of their life, then they will conquer death and live in eternity with Him and all the believers who have gone before them!
I pray for the healt of my sister and she die of cancer, months later my mother got covid and I pray for "what is your will Ill accept it" now my mom is watching the TV with her grandsons Dont pray for yourself pray for what is right
Amazing, it's keeping me moving forward
Man Jordan Peterson never fails to disappoint
Yes. All you have to do to shut his argument up is to ask to give you a response that is not an assertion. All creationists have is assertions.
And still didn't refute anything he said.
This is too good 😋. I'm loving it 🤩
He definitely says a lot of words, but I didn't hear a single case proving the existence of God. If this is the best argument, I'll continue to enjoy my life free from the burden of adhering to fictional stories.
@@Keisha531 "free" 🤣👍
When you embrace responsibility you find meaning woahhh
so don’t ask for things, work harder and do it yourself while making yourself a better person.
You can't understand God but you can feel His Love. And then you know that He exist.
I don’t feel gods love. I feel live from people around me
This is just ‘feels’ - not evidence
all i feel in this world is misery and suffering
what does God’s love feel like? that’s not even something people can collectively agree on
I would love to hear the entire interview. Is it posted anywhere?
I think it's part of the exodus series
its like a hour long have fun
Basically every argument on God's existence works like this: 1) say something, can be anything, free will, Earth, universe, time, consciousness, literally can be anything 2) and say that the reason that it exists is because of God and otherwise it wouldn't exist. I think many people who say God mean just the entire universe and those two often overlap in that sense, if you think about it.
He's AMAZING ❤
It’s discussions like this, among intelligent and educated people, that make me realize humanity hasn’t evolved as much as we think.
Discussions after discussions after discussions to say nothing.There is no god other than yourself.
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 so the we should just make shit up and believe in fairy tales? Science is demonstrable our best way to study and understand reality. If you have another method that is on par or better, then present your evidence that this is the case
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 nope, in fact I have no problem admitting that it is possible that there are some truth that can't be reached using science. Hell, maybe there are some truth that can't be reached with any method. You are the one making the claim that those truth can be approached by metaphysical and religious archetypes without any evidence whatsoever. I'm not asking for scientific evidence, I'm asking for predictions consistent with reality, predictions made by wharever process which can't be made with science. I want proof that your methods can be reliable.
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 did you perhaps completely ignored the "reliable" part when I was asking for evidence? Then you just decided to bring anecdotes... holy shit man... the funniest thing is that it even sounds scientific "you observe something happen then something happens afterward, next time you expect that if first thing happens again, the second thing will happen too"... In fact this is a scenario that we could investigate scientifically to see what's going on.
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 If all you get is a glimpse, how do you know is real and not just a coincidence/mind trick? If you can't make predictions is your method even worth a thing apart from deluding yourself into thinking you know the answers?
God doesn't expect you to believe in Him. It's through the beauty of life that you realize that this was all created. I love our creator.
Yea believe me or you'll burn in eternal hell fire. Why it sound so similar like some dictator asking civilians to praise him Orelse he'll put them in jail
@@AzadHind572 Hey,you don't have to believe. You will find out when you die.
This is my greatest prayer and desire. I am sick and tired of acting out of my own will and destroying myself. May God hear our prayers and let us be vessels of divine will... God I need you..
Great video! Im a big fan of Peterson. A couple of months ago I routinely started going to church with a few family members of mine for the first time as an adult. Prior to this I hadn’t regularly attended church since I was around 13. One aspect that immediately became clear was just how emotional many people around me we’re getting. I could tell that at least a handful of people were momentarily alleviating some very painful burdens. I quickly recognized a gigantic blind spot in my view of religion: Just how significant of a coping mechanism it is for many people who are being relentlessly tortured by life, not just the metaphysical assurances but also the strengthened sense of community/security. Hopefully there will continue to be more secular substitutes in place of religion. All of the good facets of religion without all of the dogma. In the meantime I’ll just have to settle with going to a Christian church with family
There's no doubt that religion is a coping mechanism for many people. But that applies to all religions. Which religion is a person's coping mechanism depends very much on the country, culture and family that person was born into. It doesn't mean that the tenets of that religion or any other are real.
@JEANNETTE HOPE Well obviously..
I feel the same way about Superman except I don't see his back
The God's true changes everywhere and everyone who is his presence! Neither superman can make all. God's loves never fail!
@@TheMessiahcameGod is a He? Pff, I always try to genuinely listen to christian's arguments but then I'm reminded brutally that it's an old fantasy book written by weird old men and I laugh and laugh.
2 of my favorite things ive been able to enjoy in this life. Serving my community which gave me meaning. And getting close with god which gave me meaning. What if you had both? And found meaning in both?
good for you if that makes you happy then in your own way you have found god
did we understand how ovens work before building one... no we built one, it worked and years later we learned to understand how it works
We dont naturally know how a oven works.
@@Raxi._. afaik we do now, after we discovered the fundamental blocks of our univese we were able to pice together how it does, or it has to do with thermodynamics... not a physicist and dont remember unless you mean by nature, without learning... in which case: what?
"The term and concept "God" is a metaphor for that which transcends all categories of thinking." -- Joseph Campbell
@@evanvansickle7181 Or maybe it's very profound.
I dunno that I buy that..The God I've experienced has been very personal, very specific, conversational, and has quite literally saved my life over a dozen times. He gives very practical, physical help, as well as spiritual and ethereal. He is limited only by our willingness to open ourselves to the possibilities. The book of James, chapter 4 speaks directly to this. We have to have humility, seek with a pure heart, and nothing will be withheld. Solid truth in my life, time and time again. My suffering comes when I get full of myself and try to fix things myself --like I know better thsn He does.😂
Faith is when you’ve learned enough reason to know how things work.
The sheer narcissistic audacity of a creator entity to put the onus of belief in it's existence on its creation while willfully denying sufficient evidence while simultaneously holding a metaphysical gun to their heads would make the most ardent serial killer blush.
Do you have really comprehensive vocabulary or did you just spam the middle botton?
The arrogance and narcissistic temerity for a human being with a limited cognitive compacity to even ponder this type of thought would make the most ardent serial killer blush.
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@@justjoking5252 if you too dumb to read just say so 😂
What would be sufficient evidence for you?
He’s just waffling saying nothing
Thank you for this 👍
He knows to stomp it down the drain
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 How does that relate to 'God'?
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 okay so maybe it's semantics if you call it god or something else (oneness in spirituality). Either way, I believe the experience stays the same and agree with your description of the divine 👍
That is JP whenever he opens his mouth. A lot of fancy words, but not much context
Dr. Peterson collected it all. All the information, to have the wisdom, and understand our meaning and purpose in life.
Exactly…these conversations are so damn interesting.
If this is the best argument for God exists , after listen it I am even more atheist .
As a Christain, I can safely say, I agree lmao
I am a English teacher and would like u to re-write your statement or ask God to help u with your grammar 🙏
@@Ephilly-rz2pb a English? Shouldn’t it be ‘an English’? Maybe you should get a new job
@@greenwizard7592 u really are quite the wizard!!! I did that intentionally to see if it was caught..thanks buddy! You know of any schools I can apply at wizard 🧙♀️
@@Ephilly-rz2pb LMAO “i did that intentionally” yeah at least i believe that youre a middle school teacher now. Maybe not english tho..
In order to understand God, we need to think on a higher plane of understanding. We are thinking on the basest of planes. What we need, is more eyes. Let there be eyes that are granted to us. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy.
The Divine Will lives in us: To Expand and Progress. "Be fruitful...subdue the earth." Evolution corresponds to the universe in that both are derived from nothing with this key desire. God is what lives in us.
I liked to be heard too. That passed. Now i just am alive. Have faith in yourself. There is no divine will but be good. Humble honest sincere open tolerant ❤❤❤
You see his heart by your doing his work on earth
To know God’ Is keeping in his word, pray without ceasing and open yr heart and Will to Him….You will get to lnow Him and He will know you!!! It is true!!
Open your heart means nothing. What you mean is you want people to sit there and wait for something that will never happen than start calling our own internal subconscious voice the Lord God reaching out to you. 😂😂😂 Even the pope says hell isn't real.
Love Dr Peterson's anlysis
FAITH!!! THERE ARE NO TWO PEOPLE THAT LOOK THE SAME!!!! 😮💖🎁🔥❤️🕊⭐️
As a Christian, I believe that we may come to 'know' God through Jesus Christ💜
Thank You Jordan I feel The Same Exact Way 💯
That using big words will disguise the fact that there’s no god?
I am a man, a father, I have a spirit. My spirit represents my consciousness (my inner voice) subconsciously. I go to sleep, I wake up and find myself conscious in a dream. A world my spirit has constructed and placed my consciousness into a vessel inside the dream. That vessel I call my son and during that dream me and my son share a consciousness and through the spirit, father and son are one. From this persective the spirit functions as a constructor for the creator, the father, whom will experience the creation as the son. This represents the relationship of The Father, The Son, The Spirit. If my spirit can create an entire world and place my consciousness into a body inside that world, I trust Gods spirit can create this universe and place his consciousness into the body of Jesus Christ.
Interesting perspective.
so true thank you Father GOD for helping me overcome nihilism and finding truth in you through your son JESUS Christ The Lord And Savior
This is the first time I've heard JP struggling to make sense. It just shows that, no matter how thoughtful we are, when we have a cherished belief, like God, we find it very hard to say, "This is nonsense, I need to let it go". Still, I like him. I think he's genuine.
I saw Jesus Christ after being anointed. The Great I Am is the still small voice.
One of the rare occasions that I actually agree with him
Every new age we become closer to God closer to finding answers because people have different experiences in life some people are more evoled than others because we all been in different life times to experience and learn lessons we didn't learn last life time i actually think the last life time we live on earth we wake up to God and start seeing the spiritual world my experience
I feel sorry for anyone who has to believe in God to feel any sort of meaning or enjoyment to life
And I'm so very sorry for Atheists, who believe in their "religion of nothing" as we all came from nothing, out of thin air apparently.
No need to feel sorry, some people are going through their tough times and God is their moral support.
@@kristene2372 it's not a religion, nor is it nothing. It's just using evidence and science as a basis for understanding the universe instead of childish stories rooted in astrology
They are afraid of what will happen when they lose there religion. Many religious people actually fall into a depression after being convinced that there religion is false. Many find a new religion to fill the gap. In truth they just dont know how to live without it.
I feel sorry for the people too arrogant to accept god, they just are too weak minded to handle certain restrictions from religion and in all together just say, "god is false!"
I can give the same argument for the existence of the Easter Bunny.
You can? Could you explain?
I'd be interested in reading that.
The Easter bunny created God silly. I had a revelation that told me so.
Enjoy your chocolate, I will enjoy heaven.
@@tomcallahan7677 Good luck.
Jordan Peterson is 🇨🇦Canada’s Greatest Treasure🇨🇦
All thanks be to God amen hallelujah perfect forevermore But without faith it is impossible to please him for he that cometh to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him
If this is the best argument for "God's" existence then theists still have quite a ways to go. What Peterson is arguing here is that you basically have to submit yourself to believe in "God" in order for "God" to exist. It's complete nonsense.
A rebirth. It's as if everything I thought was right became wrong. A new strength of light. A path of truth. My heart became over contentment with warmth
not only can you know he exist. you can know him personally. you can know God.
John 1:1-4 KJV "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men." God bless you all.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:8-9 KJV
Yea the conception of God can be useful... But does that mean we need to be baptized like Jesus said, or do something that Allah said?
Please read Isaiah 43:10 to 13 , Isaiah 44 verses 6 to 8, Isaiah 45:5 to 8 and verses 21 to 25, Isaiah 46:5 to 13, Isaiah 48:12 to 13. God is one, He is the first meaning that He does not have a father, and He is the last meaning He does not have a god-like son.
@@itWouldBeWise I would not do anything Allah said, because Allah is not God. The whole of Islam is false, the Quran, the supposed word of God is plagiarised from earlier myths and fables from Persian mythology, Jewish fables and heretical "Christian" stories from various infancy gospels circulating in Arabia at the time. Once you see the sources of the Quran for yourself you will never become a Muslim, or if you are one already, the uncovering of these sources will cause you to leave Islam. As for baptism, it is an outward symbol of your accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, baptism itself does not save you, it is your faith in Christ that saves you.
Why doesn't anyone share what interview clips like this one are taken from? Is it just a mind numbing oversight? I'd like to watch this whole conversation.
Same here fella for Fok's sake somebody has to know it
Reply here if you find out
Comment for reminder
Also leaving comment for notification if someone finds it.
I'm gathering that this is from his new exodus series on Daily Wire+
People sound so smart so smart untill they start talking about god
Strong intellectual men speaking. Respect.
Boom dad gum it Jordan you just keep going my man. You speak as a saved child of God! Nice if I don't meet you on earth I'll see you in heaven my man.
Through prayer God comes through for you ❤❤
Or maybe just helps give you enough strength to come through for yourself.
@jessica nairn Both 😊
@@redbunny22 Maybe means you don't know yet I'm sure you declare your maybes as fact.
@@heresjohnny602Maybe I declare my maybes as fact to make certain its seen as a silly sarcastic remark instead of being taken the wrong way. The statement is true without the maybe but then it just sounds rude, wich was not intended. P.S. I'm not intending to be rude here either just currently bed ridden so I have nothing better to do than go through KZhead comments.
BAE I PRAY THAT YOU KNOW I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO MANIPULATE YOU OR CONTROL YOU. YOU WILL BE THE PRIEST IN MY HOME I WILL HONOR YOU. EVERYTHING I HAVE I WILL GIVE TO YOU.