Phelps vs Thorpe vs van den Hoogenband - Men's Freestyle 200m at Athens 2004 | Throwback Thursday
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Enjoy this look back at the Men's 200m Freestyle final the Summer Olympic Games in Athens 2004, also known as "the Race of the Century" in Olympic swimming or "the greatest swimming race of all time". Featuring some of the most iconic Olympic swimmers of all time, Ian Thorpe, Pieter van den Hoogenband, and Michael Phelps!
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2008 4x100 free relay
@@roanriordan7225 Most insane swim race ever
Kalla winning the relay for 🇸🇪in Sochi...Redgrave’s 5th...Rudisha in London...Majdec getting bronze with a pneumothorax in Vancouver...
Sir Ben Anslie winning his 4th sailing gold medal after turning into the incredible hulk.... "they've made me angry, they won't like me when I'm angry".
Three legends of world swim in a race. This was really the race of the century
I counted 4: Thorpe, Hackett, Van den Hoogenband and Phelps.
if only phelps was at the peak of his career, then it would have been even better
I wish Hackett had not raced this , and saved himself for the 4 x 200 meters relay. That was the one that got away.
@@rhysmoore1403 you could also say the same about Thorpe. He was definitely not at his best after changing coaches.
@@rhysmoore1403 Phelps was 19 and at his 2nd Olympics. No excuse not to win. Thorpe was just better at freestyle.
Ian Thorpe’s swimming style is one of the best I’ve ever seen, so smooth and natural, he literally glides through the water!
Not a doubt the most famous swimmer of the beginning of the 21st-century
He was great, no doubt, but "the greatest of the 21st century" is by far overstating. Must be a case of "Hero Worship"
@@firebat6612 "beginning"
@@saadjsayed OH! the "begining" well that's quite a special and unique way of looking at it. Never heard of anyone being the most famous at the "begining"
@@firebat6612 You're mixing the comment and reply
Ian Thorpe was something else. The way he could glide effortlessly through the water. He reminds me of Roger Federer, just effortless movement.
Doesn’t everybody use the this technique? In 200-400m freestyle ?
@@dragos9134 not in the 200 no.
It seems effortless but he puts so much power in those strokes.
Stop insulting Ian Thorpe comparing him to Federer. LOOOL! Federer didn't even dominate his sport and 99% of his records are broken by DJOKOVIC who dominated Federer. Thorpe dominated his sport and achieved the greatest success at such a young age.
@@katerinapatiniotis5598Federer didn’t dominate his sport? What an absolutely absurd statement. He was considered the GOAT for a long while, and is still a lock for top 3 ever. He has 20 Grand Slam wins along with the record for most consecutive weeks at #1. Is Ian Thorpe top 3 all time in his sport? With only 5 gold medals, which puts him in a 7-way tie for 6th most all time, I would say no.
A legend past his prime A legend in his prime A legend in the making All in one race Nice
Pvdh was still an amazing swimmer tho. Won 100m gold in Athens
man this race was so epic
Dont forget Hacket. All 4 were in their prime and won 10 gold medals between them at this Olympics
Don’t forget the man who stormed the US capital (Keller)
A coming out party
What a gracious loser Pieter VDH was. Still smiling after losing his 200m crown. Respect.
ya that embrace btw him and thorpe seemed really genuine. great to see
@@marcelblom6224 they did the same in 2000 also when Thorpe lost. Both tremendous examples of the best of the sport.
Also nothing to be upset about...Hoogie himself is also legend!
@@jaredohanlon8078 Thorpe is a great swimmer but he is hardly a great sport. He accused VDH of using drugs before, and VDH is one of his best friends supposably. That is disgraceful, especialy when it is Thorpe who has failed a drug test, not VDH, LOL!
When the competitors' level is so high don't exist defeats
Thorpedo did it all on that last turn. He was making up ground by the 150 mark but that final turn was absolutely fantastic and he went like a slingshot into the lead. Brilliant.
Phelps' last turn was even better..
@@grasshopperdad1479 Yup, nearly ran them all down. At 19.
Yep 👍 that turn at the 150 meter mark nailed it. Ian Thorpe said as much in his book. Unlike Sydney 2000, he still had plenty left in the tank and knew he had it won then.
yeah - Thorpe goes in 0.2 sec behind (on the foot touch) and comes up in front. Phelp's final turns in all his races, were legendary. His final turn in the 400 medley at the London Olympics was freakish. The guy has gills.
@@Fuzcapp he didn't win it though
Ian Thorpe always looks so effortless but goes so fast! Saves the legs for the final lap. Also great sportsmanship from Pieter.
A great rivalry and friendship between the 2 swimmers. Hoogenband had burned Thorpe off brilliantly in Sydney with his speed, but Thorpe was a monster here in Athens. His turn at the 150 metre mark nailed the race.
Sometimes the athlete’s congratulating each other seems cringe and fake, but you can tell vdh is genuine and humble. Champion.
Its easier for swimming and such because they have yearly international competition. The two dual-gold medalist high jumpers this year have been to the others wedding and are friends.
Thorpey & Hoogey had a fantastic relationship, rivals in the pool but great mates out of it. They have so much respect for each other, it's actually great to see humbleness. Humbleness is a trait that most countries have, that & respect for their rivals, unfortunately there's one country that doesn't have either trait & that's why the Seppo's are disrespected all around the world coz of their crassness & arrogance
Ian Thorpe is universally admired here in Australia. He is what a true champion is...supremely talented, hard working, a nice person, gracious and humble.
Is he still remembered? Swimming isn't as popular here except for Phelps. I guess he's as famous there as Phelps is here?
thorpe is wearing an illegal shark suit that has since been outlawed in olympic competition.
He’s not wearing the sharkskin suit. The others are. All the suits here are now banned. Stop spamming this stupid comment that is completely inaccurate.
@@v4v819 America isn't the world mate.
@@Ineddiblehulk correct
Still remember watching this live on tv when i was a kid. The most legendary race.
How legendary is this race, especially since it happened in Athens, Greece. The birth place of the olympics.
thorpe is wearing an illegal shark suit that has since been outlawed in olympic competition.
Brembilla, Hackett, Phelps, Hoogenband, Thorpe... superstar race!
Peace It was loaded top to bottom with quality.
I fell in love with swimming after watching Thorpe in Sydney Olympics.Phelps may be the greatest ever but Thorpedo is the legend you would love to see.
No phelps is not the greatest ever, Ian Thorpe is the greatest ever..
@@hondasarefaster5914 For me too! He is in my top 3 Olympic athletes I have seen!
Thorpe always appeared strangely unhurried. He's one of my favourite swimmers of all time.
He paced himself brilliantly in this race, against such a great sprinter and early pacesetter like Pieter van Hoogenband.
Ian Thorpe is my all time favorite! His 4 world records in 4 consecutive days in amazing!
Take that contrroversial full body swimsuit off, he will be nothing. Thorpe wont even make it to bronze.
@khan..bad loser
@@mkhan8527 full body swim suit era utilizzabile da tutti
@@mkhan8527 youre pethatic. yeah. I mean you. If you think that Thorpe won because of that bodysuit, Why don't you suggest others wear that too?
@mkhan8527 Garbage... Thorpe was a world champion gold medallist before the suits came about. He won his 1st gold medal in just speedos. And it's since been proven that his suit was nothing like the later banned super suits
5:55 the scream of History that becomes Legend. Ian Thorpe the Master, Ian Thorpe the King. We’ll never see such a PERFECT stroke again.
Yeah I always think he has the best stroke. the blue print of freestyle
@leonard bolton they are different types of swimmers, there is no better freestyler than Thorpe, Phelps swims butterfly
Phelps mejor que todos, rompió hasta los récords de torpedo. Ni más ni menos,mis amigos
@leonard bolton lol. No. You’re just ignorant. And Thorpe had more skill than Phelps ever would
@@adielhernandezflores7176 swimming isn't about time, Agnel did 1.43.14 in textile.
I’ve never seen such perfect form in my life than Ian Thropes freestyle!
Ian Thorpe looks like Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Maybe Thorpe's tumble turn was where Ibrahimovic modeled his insane bicycle kick ...????
That's what exactly I thought when I first saw him... Does not seem as arrogant and jackanapes as Zlatan is though!
Always a pleasure returning and watching THE race again. Ian Thorpe Greatest stroke of all time, he did in swimming what Federer, Jordan, and Senna did in their sport, reaching effectiveness with stylistic perfection of the gesture.
Except Serena is a hack (with a very basic power game) who is nowhere near the genius of Henin, for instance. Serena is a terrible role model and an abusive, gaslighting victim.
Oops you meant Senna lol
😂😂😂
haha Federer? 331 weeks at #1 and counting, double career Grand Slam, Career Golden Master! delusional fedtard!
@@Dots8 Hi, it seems that you're confusing Federer with Djokovic as you've listed some of Djokovic's statistics!
To explain why Thorpe could glide effortlessly above the water , we need to have a look at his special training in the mini pool that was unique at that time . He was the first in the world to implement that kind of training . It was all about measuring the water flow around the body . Add to this his slim body , his height ,and his legs . He had a very unique leg movement in the free-style that slides the water from the dead zone which is at the end of the back towards the end of the body generating the perfect wave that helps a lot to keep the whole body gliding with no water resistance at all . This is the key for his free-style success (A very unique leg movement) . Adding to this that he had the longest arm stroke in history . All of that made him the unbeatable killer shark in water . In my opinion he's the swimming icon af all times .
thorpe is wearing an illegal shark suit that has since been outlawed in olympic competition.
Add to that his size 17 feet and dolphin kick. That turn at the 150 metre mark nailed the race against a speedster like Hoogenband.
I was there... the most amazing sensation in my life...
When everyone is wearing shoes, Thorpe appears barefoot as a jedi. It illustrates what is like to be unique, a legend. Thorpedo.
As an Aussie. Who wears shoes to the pool?
@@flowerpower8722 the only thing missing was a surfboard.
Thorpedo is s graceful in his action...he seems so fluid and effortless....my all time fav...miss him still
It’s a shame he retired after this and didn’t keep going until Beijing, not including his failed comeback in 2012.
The best part for me was no commentary. Such a great way to watch the race. Thorpe makes it look easy.
he made it look easy with the help of the suit that made him glide in the water which has been banned.
@@davidgold9976 still far enough ahead so as not to matter !
Magnificent swimmers in this event. Hackett, Phelps, Hoogenband, Keller, Thorpe. Stacked race.
Keller doesn’t add to the stacked field
Ian Thorpe the australian torpedo... he was great
the thorpedo
Phelps was only 18 here and he won a bronze vs the world record holder and the reignjng olympic champ. Won a total of 6 Golds and 2 Bronze this games.
19 actually and it was his 2nd olympics. Thorpe was only 17 in Sydney.
@@analcommando1124 well Thorpe didn't compete in as many races as Phelps did in 04 although he was in his prime...phelps just too good even before reaching his peak!
@@analcommando1124 Michael Phelps was only 15, even though he was just a baby when he competed at his first Olympics, he came in 5th in the 200-meter butterfly. Next year in 2021 at the World Championship Trials on March 30, Phelps broke the world record in the same event, at 15 years and 9 months, he became the youngest male ever to set a world record in swimming, Previously the youngest male had been Ian Thorpe, who captured the 400-meter freestyle world record at 16 years and 10 months. 4 month later at the World Championships in Fukuoka, Japan, Phelps broke his own world record while in route to become a world champion for the first time.
@@jcgpisces579 I know all that. Remember Thorpe was only 17 in 2000 in his hometown Olympics. Talk about pressure. Anyway, I'd argue Phelps was better in 2004 than 2008. No super suits, much much much much tougher field in the 200m free in 2004 compared to all the chumps in 2008 besides Park. And you can't blame Phelps for the 4x100m freestyle being mediocre.
@@jcgpisces579 Anal Commando was right Phelps was 19 in this Olympics and 15 in the prior Olympics. Maybe your confusing Anal Commando with Ferdinand above who got his age wrong. But the rest of what you said was a good read. Helps me understand why Thorpe came and went real fast in the sport. He probably lost that fire after seeing someone as young as Phelps break his records. Had a friend in the Air Force who was a really fast long distance runner, though I was slower I could run for much longer. One day at a 5k race he got beat for the first time on our Air Force base and he never ran one of those races again. He couldn't take it being in second place. I'm thinking this might be the same that happened to Thorpe. I could be wrong though. This was around the same time these two swimmers were competing at a very young age.
What a beautiful stroke Thorpe had💪
...That music at the start of the video 💘 I was 11, and I remember everything of this race. Amazing. Old gold good days.
That embrace by Peter at the end was beautiful!
What a great race. Ian Thorpe was a true Champion. Very gracious and humble too. 💯🥇💫
What a field..Thorpie, Van Hoogenband, Phelps, Hackett, Keller. Amazing race. Thank you for posting.
and... Rosolino
Love watching this even though I don’t know how to swim 🏊🏻♀️
There was a time when even these guys couldn't... it could be you some day 🏊🏻♀️
I love Thorps stroke. I could watched it forever.
Didnt know Zlatan was also a legendary swimmmer
Was waiting for thisncomment, haha great
And not to forget, absolute King of Arseholes! Another of his talents.
Thorpe just glides through the water so effortlessly its almost a joke
No one turns like Thorpe. Greatest flip turn in history
Thorpe had the worst walls of anyone in the field. His streamlines are absolutely terrible. Very interesting for such a great swimmer.
Amazing to think Thorpe worked out halfway "Only two things I need to do - relax and work harder". He was just so methodical, the first two laps putting himself in the minds of the guys next to him just to work out when the time to strike was.
The spectators witnessed the golden era of the swimming elites all of them competing at the same event 🥽...!! Very lucky indeed!
Fabulous! Makes one understand the crucial presence of a live audience on these events. The actual games are a mere shadow of this version in spite of great results. I remember the swimming competition was absolute top in the 3 subsequent versions too. When Phelps was at his highest, the intensity couldn't increase any further. Wonderful moments.
Olympic coming in hot with these throwbacs
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@@Olympics lol definitely millenials in charge here of these videos
Wow what a lineup. And what a finish. Fantastic. Years of hard work rewarded.
17 years ago. OMG!
看Ian Thorpe游泳就是賞心悅目!
I was among the spectators.... unimaginable nowadays!
Yeah, thing of the past alright!!!
What I love to see is respect and genuine caring between the athletes. Isn't that what it's all about????
Goosebumps. 3 absolute champions.
Used to love watching our Thorpedo swim...he was amazing
Seems like it was just yesterday watching thorpedo how time flies and thanks for upload it brings back memories
The best ever 200m mens freestyle race.👍
Ian Thorpe is the GOAT
I remember this one..a great race with three great swimmers
i mean Thorpe looked like he just jumped to the water and ended the race effortlessly, he didn't even need to catch his breathe.
Ian was a class act.
How do you know
i'm going to say this in my native tongue: que humildad del holandes Pieter van den Hoogenband! Bravo!
Much respect for you Ian !
Thorpe's final turn - what a monster!
Omg ians swim suit must have taken forever to get on and off
Yep! He almost missed the 4x100 free final in sydney because he was stuck putting one on
Interesting
@@cooldumpy7913 that is interesting fact
@@vishaltripathy3620 Yeah he swam the 400m just an hour before. He had little time between the races
Yep, they're really a b*tch to put on. I've had a similar fully body one for free diving.. You need to get in water (if you can) and let it fill with water so it balloons up a little bit, then it's easier
Before phelps.. there was thorpe...
mario aviles questo genere di affermazioni non ha molto senso e comunque è certamente errato, almeno quanto e’ probabile proprio il contrario.
There IS Thorpe. ALWAYS.
mario aviles 🤦♂️
mario aviles ‘teue’ 🤦♂️
Ian would still smash Phelps in a race. He likes men, not bongs
What an incredible field.
Ian Thorpe beat Phelps almost one body length at this race (Athen 2004), what a legend Aussie swimmer.
Show us the chest Thorpe!! A race without the magic swimming suite
@@jimmy-vy8hy yeah weren't they banned after these games?
if more further Phelps beat those two...
@@RatelHBadger and @jimmy-vy8hy This one wasn't buoyant - it wasn't until 2008 that nett-buoyancy was allowed and that was what made the massive differences. They only lasted until after the world championships of 2009 - so only really one year of "cheat" suits and certainly not here. In reality, Thorpe's suit was no more beneficial than the long-legged versions of everyone else, but it's a shame really, because without understanding this nuance (buoyant vs non-buoyant) the focus is on the wrong thing (the suit, not the amazing swimming) and unfairly detracts from the perception of the performance
The suit actually slowed him though a nett wieght gain and restrictive in movement, every stroke against the fabric took a little more effort and also shortened his stroke,, not to mention trapped body heat,,,,, he should of shaved down and won by more , but sadly it was vanity that was the factor at play here! Imagine how fast he could have gone had he not retired before his peak.
Not a bad event when Grant Hackett doesn't even rate a mention in the headline
That what I thought aswell lol If I remember his not really a 200m swimmer. I know he does 1500 and 800.
Only about five Olympic legends in this race!
Great to see the three legends race against each other, Popov is the only swimmer that could stand next to these three. Definitely the race of the century, it's so rare to get three all time greatest athletes actually race against each other. Can't think of another time that has happened in sport. Pity Thorpe retired at such a young age (we all know why), it would have been amazing to see the rivalry go on for another couple of Olympic games, especially against Phelps. Would Phelps have finally got one back on Thorpe in a freestyle race? That's the unknown question.
four all time greats. Grant Hackett was in the race too
All the legend in one race...awesome👍
Fue una final espectacular, aún me estremece después de quince años, mi favorito era Hoogenband antes de la última vuelta Thorpe apretó y logró mantener la ventaja. Ellos se conocían muy bien Pieter lo venció en su casa en Sidney cuatro años antes y está fue la revancha.
cruyff hoogie y Michael Phelps eran sus comienzos ahora el también es historia ..
Love this sport
Una gran carrera con estos excelentes nadadores (Thorpe, van den Hoogenband, Phelps, Hackett, Brambilla). Ian Thorpe tiene una magia que lo hace el mejor nadador del mundo para mi, es un increíble. Pieter es un gran competidor. Falta Popov para está super carrera.
Its eerie watching these without commentary!...
If Thorpe didn’t retire early for his personal issue, we could do Pele-Maradona or Jordan-Lebron debate over Thorpe and Phelps
Isn't Thorpe only a freestyle specialist though?
There isn't a debate between Jordan and Lebron, except for the bronsexuals.
" If & But"..!!
Is Jordan and Lebron really a 50/50 debate though?
@@VF5It's the only event that matters... haha
If Thorpe had the technology suits of 2009 the 400m freestyle would never be broken again. I’m sure he would have gone to an alien territory
Gracias y saludos cordiales desde Mallorca para vosotros olimpic
thorpedo. how world class he was.
Phelps should thank Thorpe for retiring early due to personal issues.
Phelps would have beaten him regardless. He is the Usain Bolt of Swimming in his own class.
@@fender1000100 usain never lost
@@thedankfish6748 Except he did. In his first Olympics, in 2004. Perfection is an absurd measure for comparison, anyway. Nobody has ever been perfect. No one.
@@fender1000100 not according to this race he wasnt
@@kristianaaberg7882 He didn't quite have the stamina here. His first 100 was incredible but he tired.
Oh, dear Athens. I miss you, I love you 🤩
The great thorpe with all grace in swimming
I miss u Ian Thrope~!!
Me too he was good friend of mine
@@joshrees1985 OMG!! I envy you Josh!! I wish I could meet him in person and swim together. Lol;)) Most of the time I've watched Ian's freestyle video a lot while I was begining to learn made me huge difference at the same lavel of people there at that time. Yay~!! Throwback Friday funday~;))
It was the most exciting time of my life believe me to swim a couple of metres away from and talk to him almost every week
@@joshrees1985 no way~! How lucky you are~~!! You must be excited for sure!! It's too good to be true though. I miss swimming this Summer in the middle of pandemic. I should have swam in my dream, ;((
Yeah he even swam in my lane once he was so fast he did it in a second blink and you’d miss it
Perfect swim stroke! Not so fast pulling but the pacing was so smoooth and made it qiuck!
Ian Thorpe undoubtedly the greatest swimmer !!!
Yes really.
Not anymore 😂
He’s great but not the greatest swimmer . I don’t recall him having 28 medals like Phelps has.
@@anthonylagano2371 lol , before phelps , he dominated , even phelps came at 2nd position when he was in the tournament. Phelps should give him a thanks as he retired earlier than him.
He 's the only 1 with full body suit on, helps with bouyancy
My Friend Ian Thorpe he used to train at my local pool he always had time in between big events for me this is one his greatest swims
He's a really nice guy miss him much
Yeah I wish he'd stayed on. He could have won the 400 meters 3 times in a row, and another shout at the 200.
Great sportsmanship from Pieter VDH
Phelps & Thorpe are of another planet !!!
I have a picture of him winning and throwing his arm up . A one off. Given to me for my 50 th bday. (Signed).🥇
Humildad al cien dejando x parte de thorpe salir unas milesimas antes a los demas.!!!!!!
Wow - what a field! Brembilla, Hackett, Thorpe, Hoogie, Phelps, and Keller's no slouch either.
El mejor nadador indudablemente!!! Ian!!
By far my fave swimming race of all time!
Ian Thorpe's swimming is just like a professional fish's swimming
thorpedo is a machine!!! i can watch him swim forever
Amazing win 🥇
La mejor competencia de nado de la historia, el mejor de los tiempos el torpedo Ian, segundo Pieter y aprendiendo de los grandes Michael, bien👍
Hackett. phelps.thorpe.pieter van den hoogenband raja kolam renang tiada tandingan legends selama nya....
2020.. i just had to see this again! The 3 Great Whites
Omg Michael is a baby here!
He was 19, not a Baby
@@toivonencresto what are you talking about? I'm 22 and I'm still a baby
It's easy to forget that he actually won 6 golds in 2004
Antriksh Hskritna Aerotaar in the competitive swimming world 19 is not Baby
@@toivonencresto pretty sure thats not the context in which OP was referring to him as a baby. Mere looks is what she was reflecting upon on comparing to his usual 30 yr old image
What a race!
Increible Thorpe y Van
Je me souviens de cette finale épique. La torpille, vdh et Phelps dans une finale. Le summum de la natation
Love it when there’s no idiot NBC commentary. ✔️🙌🏻
I would say that the 400m freestyle race in 1988 was a fabulous race as well - three swimmers under the world record and the fourth place finisher set an American record. Fantastic!!
Why would you? Non of those 4 swimmers are superstars of the sport, ridiculous to compare
Ian's style always reminds me of a big shark just cruising offshore. Seemingly effortless for him.