Ford Transit 2.0 Ecoblue wet timing belt replacement FULL GUIDE
2023 ж. 25 Қаз.
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doing loooooooads of these belts now. decided to make a video so you can get an idea of how to do it
doing loooooooads of these belts now. decided to make a video so you can get an idea of how to do it
Hands up if you remember doing a timing belt on a CVH in 20 minutes.
or a 1980 transit cambelt in 10 at the roadside, then give the keys back to the customer... [but the cover never went back on...]
I remember it well
Ha yeah and everyone still complained about having to do them rather than having a chain.
Yep did loads ,the good old days when cars were simple
If only engines were still that easy..
I use to rattle spanner’s for a living ! …..you done a great tutorial, top technician …much respect 👏🏻👏🏻
Nice to see someone that doesn't use an impact gun on every nut and bolt. Quality work and no stupid background music.
Great video! You have to question though… in over 100 years of technology. That wet belt situation in 2023 is really the best we could do 😳
I bet someone in finance asked why the chain was specified as it cost more than a belt and then the poor engineers had to go through a load of work converting it to a belt.
Brilliant. I always used Haynes manuals which I purchased for my Ford Transit. It's worse than useless then I found your how to video. Thank you.
I've only done one of these, I took in a mates failed diy job and said I would have a go at it. The timing setup, when getting into it halfway through is a fu**ing nightmare. It was on the lift 3 days before I dared to start it, that was after a couple of pints with my mate who's a local Ford parts manager, including some printouts of the job sheet. That slight misalignment of the crank to idler puts the shits right up you with so many teeth on the crank sprocket. Cracking job mate, made it look simple and I'm 100% with you for adding a dot of paint when doing timing jobs, even with full timing tool kits. It anything goes amiss you have a visual of where it was when it ran ok.
Good video, like to see more of this guy working on cars. Loved it
Brilliant video, straight to the point no messing around & some humour thrown in as well, Brilliant. 😊
"My elbow clicks when it's tight enough" 😂 legend we've just had ours done on a 68 plate that brake pedal went STIIIFFFFF nice work michael 👍 👌
Very clean job that. Most would not bother to wash and clean it down. Proper job!
True full procedure instruction video .insane torque procedure.glad I quit cars 20 years ago .were ridiculous then .taking engines out for starter motors etc .
Really well explained. I only watched out of interest, having changed the cam chain on our Renault Trafic (which wasworn right out after only 96,000 miles despite a very complete service history). Very similar job. I couldn’t help but notice that you effectively torqued up the “stretch” bolt on the crank twice….but what a palaver it is. I once needed recovery for my motorbike by a breakdown truck (contractor for the RAC). The recovery van only got thirty yards with me before there was a very loud bang from under the engine and the dash warnings all lit up. The crank pulley came off because the bolt snapped.
Nice to see correct parts degreasers and sealant etc and loved the coolant device .I worked at b and b motors loughton for apprenticeship then to Keith turner motors in Walthamstow gaining mot licence and then off to i and k brown motors in wanstead . I remember Dennis Golding motors
Thanks for the video mate. Was struggling to find anyone to do mine, so I did it myself after watching this a few times
Great video. Gave me the confidence to tackle one. 2019 at 120,000 miles. Got the kit from Ford. Didn't have a lot of debris, but the belt was just starting to break up. Totally absurd idea but if it pays the bills....
Brilliant video from a first time viewer. Still chucking at the I never knew my real ladder comment!
The crank bolt tightening procedure is insane! I don't know where Ford get their ideas from. Reminds me of the 6 speed gearbox oil fill procedure on my Focus, fill with oil until it leaks out the hole, then use a syringe/tube to remove the specified amount of oil from the fill hole to reduce down to the correct level! I just sent it with 2 x 1l bottles 🤣.
It's absolutely ridiculous, been honest, all us, including ford warranty guy just rattle the fuckers on, done hundreds of em and never had a problem, that's if they make it to 100k without breaking!
Ugga dugga for the crank pulley
There are two reasons for it. Firstly, it's a stretch bolt (hence it being replaced rather than reused) and secondly. the crank isn't keyed. The front pully essentially "squashes" the timing gear into position to achieve timing. If it's not tightened correctly, there is a chance that the timing will slip, and well, goodnight engine. The reason this is done is so that the timing can be set absolutely. Any machining tolerances are removed. With ever increasing emission requirements, things of this nature are required in order to make "every" engine perform as well as they can. There is also an added bonus in that the entire cost of machining a key way and the actual key is removed from the production of the engine resulting in reduced manufacturing cost.
@@keithflynn5651 If you pause the video @11:36 and @11:39 the crank gear is clearly keyed to the crank on this engine. There are still machining tolerances in the zetec/sigma no key crank setups. It's just moved from ther crank key factory machining tolerance to how accurately the crank / cam timing setting tools were manufactured 👍. No wet belt engines for me either way 🤮.
Excellent tutorial , probably the best on KZhead, credit to yea fella 👏 👍
Great video mate you have cured me of ever doing one of these lol
glad l watched this ,Was thinking of getting of a second hand one but not now ,I think sprinter rwd better , thanks
Nice video. I remembere my first time where I had to change this belt. Took me nearly 6 hours😅. I've done a few since then and got pretty fast tbh. Takes me around 3 hours by now (without the refill of the engine oil). I kinda like this work to be honest😂
If they ever do a conversion kit to chain- I’m in!! Mine has 18,000 miles in 3 years as it’s a camper so I know it’s due service after next. Saving up already.
Done a few of Theese now and use the tool to also alight the bottom crank up makes it easier but as you said it’s 14 turns from the marks to line up again but after replacing the belt you only need to turn it 4 times the top will line up then use the tool to check the bottom then all should be good
Excellent video & excellent job. I have a Transit Custom Torneo 2.0 Eco blue 'Danbury Go' Campervan fitted with Auto transmission, it was 1st reg May 2018 & has only covered 23,000 miles & has had an oil change every year. It's not been subject to the Ford recall & I was wondering if I should arrange for this maintenance job to be done in Spring 2024 as well as it's yearly service, or would the timing belt be so underused that I could change it at higher mileage. The only other factor that I can think of, is that being an Auto the engine rarely revs above 3000 rpm. Any thoughts would be welcome. My 2nd question is How much should I pay for this job to a good independent garage in March 2024? Thanks.
Great video. Really helped me out
So informative great job 👍
This chap knows how to do
That torque sequence is an absolute shambles 😂😂 Awesome video as usual mate 👍🏻😎
Absolutely ridiculous!
I use a wooden hammer handle between a big end and the cylinder block to lock the crank, saves the hassle of dismounting the starter. great video tho, wish it was available before i did my 1st one.
Brilliant video! Do you fancy doing mine for me? Your work is meticulous and the attention to detail is amazing. I doubt Ford technicians do half that level of work.
Can drop me an email
Don’t judge everyone by your low standards!
@@smedley6444 ??
Where can I find your email address?
Excellent video. This belt, how many kilometers it has traveled. Thank you.
your spot on my breaks went very dangerous pedal went hard no breaks if i was speeding on a motorway id be in in big big trouble vacuum pump three months later wet belt snapped new engine its cost ford tensor millions
Excellent video and work. First time I’ve seen this, sold a 68 plate last year as now retired which I bought new and only had 24k on it with FFSH but this always worried me about these engines
I have had two go bang. The dealership had a line of them in the storage area All with the same problem What was wrong with the old chain system?
Smash the views on that one pal, cracking tutorial
Hello, great video. If you get the opportunity could you show how to do an auto gearbox oil and filter change on one of these as there are very few instructional videos on the transition custom. Keep up the good work, Paul
The Transit 2.0 Auto doesn’t have a filter, believe it or not I’ve been to Ford and double checked but make sure you change the oil they’re going at 100k till 120 k I know if six gearboxes have all gone in that mileage range because they’ve not had their oil changed
Very interesting vlog, I am about to dive into an ex 2019 AA service van as a possible conversion to a small camper, Would you reckon an ex AA van would have been serviced correctly and on time? The wet belt scenario is a worry but a full service would pick up any degradation of the timing belt in the oil strainer, If the strainer is clean then is that a clear enough indication of an intact timing belt?
Ford engine designers be like: "A rubber timing belt, subjected to high impulse loads in normal operation, bathed in hot, dirty oil. what could possibly go wrong?"
The smallest Honda garden equipment motors have a wet belt for the OHC.
Hope prime time see your vid so when they get the bill they appreciate the effort gone in to it
They have 10vans so know exactly what to expect
Shit your on the ball
Great work and video, how many hours did it take?
Should of kept to a chain, after reading so many disaster stories about these engines belts going at 60k I decided to get a low mileage 2012 transit glad i did
Excellent video. 👍👍👍👍🔧🔧🔧🔧
Well done good job
I don't mean the one at the flywheel end that you used for torquing the pulley. The kit I use has a plate that fits on the front of the crank where the pulley goes. It locks against the left hand timing cover locating dowel. I think it's a laser kit👍
Totally disagree with the "if serviced properly" element -I have 12 of these, Ford originally stated fitted for life, then introduced a mileage limiet. We ignore them and change annually -think that is not required? We missed one and it snapped at 18 months. Crappy design and the reason I won't be ordering any more.
Fitted for economic life. ie the typical length of a lease agreement for a new van.
@@davidprentice5442 If only -2017 vehicles, began snapping in 2019. Ford denied any issue, dealer claimed the vehicle had driven through water and hydrolocked. My engineer visited the dealer, they could not provide evidence of a wet air filter or water in the engine. 2nd and 3rd broke the following week. We dropped the oil in the remainder and put cameras up the sump -evidence of the belt material breaking up. We bough a belt from Ford and advised we would get it analysed and compared to the material in the other vehicles...they asked for service records, invoices for engine oil...then started fitting new engines under warrenty. I would guess the issue is stop / start driving (as in lots of engine off, engine on) putting a crap design under pressure. It comes to something when the Fiat engined Ford diesels are the good ones...
Do you have something holding the engine up or can these sit up after you take the mount off?
Proper job!
Great video.
Hi mate ,im about to do one of these tomorrow morning , im just wondering, have you left the engine laying on the driveshaft by any chance or it is just me messing about ? Asking as I know on ecoboost engine I usually support them on a jackstand by the drive shaft and was wondering if the engine itself lays on it ??( by the looks of it ) ? great job thank you very much , you make it look like a walk in the park cheers mate , please let me know thanks
Can I ask where you bought your flywheel locking tool from ? Thank you
We’re doing one at the moment on the floor what a pain it is lol plus it’s a high top
"my elbow clicks when it's tight enough" hahahha
Yep love to find the pr.ck that designed.. the wet belt system
Great video..... whoever thought of a wet belt at Ford should look for another career. Crazy idea causing unreliability.
Never met my real ladder 😂😂😂😂😂😂 very good 👍🏻
How did you support the engine when you removed the engine mount ?
Are the newer engines upgraded to a better belt ?
what do you think to the 1.2 puretech engine.. it has the wet belt ..
Absolutely superb vlog and you certainly know your trade, hats off to you Sir, just wondering where are you based ? Kind regards to you , Mark from Billericay 👍😀
Chingford 😎
How did you have the engine supported with the mount off?
If it's any consolation (and it probably won't be for you lol) this won't be an issue for much longer as the engine is, as we speak, being converted over to a timing chain. Great video though and really interesting to watch.
Think that is only possible on the 1.8 connect, focus and early mondeo engines
@@metalworker007 sorry, I meant at manufacturing/assembly level.
@@keithflynn5651is it really? That’s interesting! Do you have any more info?
I bought an 18 plate with 41000 miles on the clock a few months ago. I didn’t know about the wet belt issues otherwise I’d have looked elsewhere. It makes for nervous driving.The service history is good. The previous owner had it serviced after 10000 miles from the initial first service at 21000 with ford.I fully serviced it, Castrol magnatec as ford recommends, ford oil filter,air filter,fuel filter, cabin filter at 42000. I’ll continue to have it serviced every 10000 miles. The original service interval stated by ford for this van is every 36000 miles which is totally ridiculous. I’m wondering if it’s worth having the sump removed and checking the oil pick up filter before oil changes to look for belt deterioration ?. I’ve inspected the top smooth side of the belt with an endoscope by removing the oil filler pipe but it’s impossible to tell with any accuracy.The problem with relatively frequent wet belt changes is the cost ( around £1200 or more) and finding a competent local garage to do it
1200 sheets to change a freaking belt?
@@z00h yep, that’s what I’ve heard. It requires a good old strip down just to get to the belts, then you’ve got oil and filter change ( nearly 10 litres of premium oil) . Ford timing belt cover, tensioner , new stretch bolts and belts.Coolant change .and then it’s got to sit on the ramps for probably 12 hours while the gasket sealant goes off before the oil can go in it. A right pain in the arse
36,000miles without an oil change is absolute madness but there again Ford are not paying for the damage this causes it’s the customer who foots the bill every time.
Ford have now changed the mileage and time interval to change the wet belts due to so many dead engines. Pretty scandalous design and wierd with the cams going backwards. Great titorial though mate 👍👍
Hi There i have a 2018 2.0 ltr diesel transit and has 70k on it so thinking at some stage of getting the timing belts done and wondered where your company is based? . Kind regards Robert
Is this the same engine in a 19 plate focus mines coming up to 62k now That’s a 2.0 ecoblue I asked ford and they said they only had problems with transits
Personally, i think Ford should go back to Timing Chains rather than wet belts. Granted the chains cost more but the reliability has got to outweigh the initial costs especially when vans are used by tradesman doing plenty miles in a year. I'm now going to investigate to see if my 2015 (64 plate) Ford Ecosport has a chain or a wet belt. If it's a wet belt... i think its a belt change as my car has 51k miles on it now with no evidence of it ever being inspected let alone changed. Great video though.... very educational :)
There is a pin hole for the balance shaft that also holds the crank in time with the cams pins. Thank me later .. great video and job.
This engine has no balance shaft
Brilliant job buddy is the cost for this touching a grand
How is the engine weight supported when you remove the engine mount ?
How do you hold engine once you taken mount off please
nice video ,how did you support the engine with the mount off ?jack stand on gearbox?
I was wondering the same.
what did u use to support the engine whilst mount was off great video
My thaught exactly
Do you have a part number for the timing tool you use?
Fords had a recall on those Transit custom vans. Check that your van has been done, under warranty. Doesnt matter how many owners or miles as its a safety recall. Mines going in next week with 130k on the motor.
Fix or repair daily,what a totally mental design, what were the designers on ?
As long as that I had many of them as taxis but at 200000 miles number 4 piston would crack so I had about 4 engine ready built
Even with proper servicing, some early servicing these belt shedding rubber. As mentioned vacuum pumps 😢 . All that space to fit a nice meaty duplex timing chain...... One van had oil changes at 6000 miles , with Ford oil and filter , the owner had the belt change at 72,000 miles ......pick up partially blocked. Ford MUST have found this in development/ testing but sent it out anyway....
Hello, please tell me how many miles do the belts change?
A simple duplex timing chain and none of this would ever have. Made so much bad publicity and so many people run away from ford, also ford have produced this rubbish and should be the cradle to grave owner of this inherent catostraphic failure like dual mass and like manufacturers who make cars that you can't easily change a bulb without having to remove parts of vehicle, super work though and very well explained you make things looks easy and non confused, top job
Whoever designed that Engine wants Sectioned then sued. Great video though.
How many miles do you recommend? For better change as I’ve got one of these vans thanks good video
2 mates have just had massive repairs done under warranty because both of their vans belts failed. Ford said it was a known issue. Might be worth doing rather than waiting.
@@graememckay9972 ok thank you my van done about 43 thousand miles at the moment
How many garages will simply rattle that pulley bolt on?
What is the mileage on this vehicle please it would be very interesting to know
Nice work 💪is the 1 litre ecoboom pretty much the same procedure?
Double the work for the 1L fiestas i will do a video on the next one i have in
@@ignitionadvantages6592cool 😎
Mines done 85k. I’m guna get it done in the next few weeks because I’m getting worried, I’m in Yorkshire and I don’t know where to get it done, ford are saying nearly £900.
I'm guessing rubber particles plug up the oil filter so that the bypass valve opens allowing unfiltered oil to pass into the engine and cause damage and blockage. Otherwise, the oil pressure warning would come on earlier, rather than upon catastrophic failure.
Is the oil pressure sensor/sender before or after the filter?
Well done this is how to do it properly not your cowboy garage!
What was the mileage on this vehicle?
What’s wrong with a chain?
Crazy idea ford have done with these wet belts a rubber belt running in oil
@@frasermalcolm2645well he’s not wrong. It’s a great idea to extract more money from customers.
WHAT MILEAGE DID THAT HAVE ON IT IT YOU DONT MIND . THAY CLAME THAY WILL DO A 100.000 MILES .
Do you not use the crankshaft locking tool that should be in your timing tool kit?
Like the one i use in this video?? Yes
Saying that I have many flywheel locking tools but none as meaty as your one / where can I purchase the one you have ? Many thanks
Is this engine the same as the 2L ecoblue that’s in the Ford Focus from 2018 onwards?
Yes
@@ignitionadvantages6592 oh sh*t 😳
I made the mistake of buying a transit custom and have just been quoted £2150 to do a wet belt replacement at Evans Halshaw Ford Bedford
Just had 2 Transit engines replaced, one 2019 at 77k miles with blown head gasket, just out of warranty and main dealer couldn't get the injectors out to take the head off, other one 2018 at 120k miles with a broken wet belt (not due for change until 150k). Both bought new and serviced on the dot. I started working on Fords in the late 1960s and changed more Pinto camshafts in the early 70s than I care to remember. Fords were a heap of s**t then and they're a heap of s**t now! I said that to the head mechanic at the main dealer and his reply was "can't argue with you mate, keeps us in a job though!". Prevention is better than cure, the best prevention being to never buy a Ford in the first place!
Remember Halfords used to sell the camshaft kits for fathers day,done loads of them in the 80s.
Would you say a chain is better and does a chain last longer
Possibly, depends on the design and manufacturer, but for convenience and low cost of maintenance an external cam belt is unbeatable. Replacing the cam chain on my Mazda 6 is an utter b4stard of a job, and you are a nervous wreck hoping the cover is sealed properly afterwards, if it leaks it has to come off again, 4 hours work! And, the chain is so puny looking, looks like it would snap in a heartbeat, and of course it can't be inspected without stripping the whole thing down, you just have to wait for the management light to come on or when it suddenly gets noisy.
You look like you related to Colin Hay singer for Men At Work
I've seen a number of these torn down on I Do Cars after they failed and bunged up the lubrication system and killed the engine. Enough that Ford isn't a possible next vehicle for me. I did the belt on my v6 Passat twice and that was easy compared to this. Just a lot of stuff to pull off and put back, but it was simple.
Can you also do it yourself watching that video? Or just get an imagination ;) ?
83k miles in March this year!
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