Unbelievably Tiny FPV Drone With DJI O3 On Board // HAPPYMODEL MOBULA8 DIGITAL HD
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00:00:00 - A new trend in micros, and I'm here for it
00:01:16 - Motors: 1103 11000 kv
00:01:46 - FC: Happymodel F405 AIO
00:03:03 - Available video systems: Walksnail, HDZero, O3
00:03:53 - Receiver: Built in ELRS
SPI-based ExpressLRS receivers are the worst
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00:06:01 - FC ships with BF 4.3 not 4.4
00:08:01 - Betaflight Configuration Tab Changes
00:08:56 - Commentary on PID Tuning and Aux Modes
00:09:59 - A bug with Happymodel ELRS binding
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00:11:33 - Flight Test 1: Cinematic color with EIS
00:14:02 - Flight Test 2: Standard color without EIS
00:15:34 - Why has my flight time been so short?
00:18:28 - Love it or hate it?
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This Mobula8 or the AcroBee75? the 0804 motors w/12000kv on the acrobee seem to be enough right?
Man this couldn’t have come at a better time thank you Bardwell you are the freaking man and thanks for replying to my email helped a lot bought literally all my gear through your links and plan to sub to your Patreon once I finished my final purchases
Many thanks for the numerous, instructive video lessons! 🙏🏻 I have learned a lot from you! 👍🏻🤘🏻
A bit of hotglue or silicone sealant (RTV) at the base of the ELRS antenna to "strain relieve" it a bit, helps to protect it without adding much weight
I purchased it and love it!! DJI 03.
I’m looking to buy it, nice to see you review it👍
am i the only one who was more impressed with jbs face camera was able to catch that mosquito?
I've been thoroughly enjoying my 6S Cinelog35v2.
Nice review Joshua. I am not sure why there are not many reviews of the mobula8 with full sized Walksnail VTX mounted using the same DJI O3 mount. I have done it, and added beeper, and it is still probably 20g lighter than the one you reviewed. The extra canopy space serves well to protect Walksnail VTX and camera against crashes, and enough room to add a ViFly ultra bright led, and still lighter than the DJI O3 version. Also saves $200 on VTX. Mobula8 is fast and probably best weight/power ratio to fly outside without being blown about by wind when flying cinematic style.
I honestly fully agree with happy model making solid FCs nowadays at least when it comes to AiO. i’ve had like 4-5 over the last two years and the newer ones seem to really outlast earlier ones durability wise. that said i use them on fairly light analog whoop builds so i can’t speak to how well they’ll handle the weight of a digital vtx over an extended period. i wouldn’t be shocked if the ESCs wear out a lot sooner
glad you sort of dodged the tornado, hope no one got hurt. it's looks pretty good. fine for many
Would be cool to see what a flywoo lite o3 on this would fly.
I could see it being done.
You mean a DJI O3 naked 😃 you don’t need Flywoo expensive kit. There are STL over there
I've wondered the same thing!
The problem is flywoo envisioned a frame to allow the naked to sit so prop flow would cool it - I want to make sure to get a frame optimized for that cooling feature before I get the naked.
Same as these two mention here... You just can't make an 80ish mm quad any lighter than these two. Then, you add the heavy 03 to it and it is what it is - a flying barge, bloated cow, or Big Mac devouring T-rump! LOL 😮😢 This size, in all reality, is too small to really carry such a heavy VTX & camera. Sure, they did it, but both are fragile and top heavy and over weight. A compromise. But, people will buy them, smash the F out of them, and rebuild ... It's what FPV is! 😜 It doesn't mean these will ever really fly good. 🤷💯
Man I love your narration JB ✊🤝
BARDWELL YOU THE MAN YO!!!! 👍🏻
What a save!
for boards with those copper wire antennas. I try to run it to one of the board screws, sandwiched in between the gummies from the FC and VTX like HDzero. I know it might not be the best for range but I only do this for whoops and other small stuff where I'm not flying far anyways.
made one of these with the Caddx vista, works great!
I have parts to build an 85 with dji equipment , I’ve been putting it off but I might get after it tonight ! Thanks Jb 😊
Looks great. I do prefer the HDzero or walksnail one as they are both nearly half the weight of the DJI mobula8. But nothing beats the DJI quality.
Dat BetaFPV Mobula 7 is something new :D
Just picked up a Pavo pico. Can’t wait
Hi Bardwell, we need a video of all the daily quads you fly and what batts you use and what chargers etc. Thanks!!
got one it flys really good
ive been waiting for this day. whoops with the 03. this is going to be fun. i just ordered the cinnebot 30 03 and the goggles 2. cant wait thanks for the video josh. btw i also ordered the zoro els
I need this in my life so badly
Awesome review Jb . 🙌
its very very usefl about model much thing .thank you very much
Awesome review my man. I love flying it for its size n video quality. Would u consider flying this for a few days and see how she fairs? From a “traveling” perspective.
I'm on a super-tight budget, so I'm looking at getting an analog version with ELRS. I'm going to get an 03 mount and bodge my Caddx Turtle V2 into it. Looks like it'll fit.
Good stuff as always. Any plan on reviewing the much heavier 4S CineLog20 O3? It looks like the flavour of the month for 2'' O3 cinewhoops.
Absolutely happy with Happymodel's SPI-receiver. It's great with today's betaflight firmware. So I have free uart needed.
That day came Joshua after binging your videos, i finaly subbed to you today ( i realised i hadnt done so far :P )
I've had it in my cart for a week. Still undecided, but very tempted.
Really great video, as usual. I'm having a hard time deciding between the Mobula8 and the Pavo Pico. How's the noise of this one compare? And would a larger battery (850mah) be viable for either of them for longer flight times? Durability is what's making the Mobula8 attractive. Noise level, vibration dampening, and props not-in-view are what make the Pico attractive. Appreciate any feedback on this dilemma. I'm looking for something unintimidating and reliable, only considering the O3 versions.
As long as you set it to fully manual and use 10bit colors with a bit of corrective grading, the O3 performs really well and delivers strong video. Auto exposure and it's overcontrasty bias is just horrible. It's a bit of pain, but a pain worth it for having sub 250g quads recording 4k120 on an SD-Card. I did some amazing shots with my new Tiny Trainer O3 and AOS Cine25 without having to deal with strong regulations. Love it. For freestyling and fun I'll stick to my low-latency feeds, but for delivering footage... the O3 is a perfect little tool. I hope we get the Air3 Sensor in the O4 :)
My fam moved up to Ohio from Nashville (couple years now). I don’t miss the big storms and tornadoes.
Slightly off-topic question, but that plug that goes from the 03 air unit where the harness attaches to the board. What would I do if I broke one of those off the board? Do I need to solder all of those little Pinz back on? Can I use electrical conductive glue? Or can the plastic harness itself just be glued down and is that enough to make contact with the Pins?
BetaFPV Mobula 7 ??
Ive got analog version with mounted thumb pro-w. Plenty of power and up to 6min flight time. I love it, got some footage on my channel.
Amazing flying and review, Joshua! Pretty nice footage! 😃 I don't remember seeing solar panels on your roof before... How long did you put it? They're going to install 10 sheets (boards?) here in about a month. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I can’t wait to see you review the acrobee03 on that 75mm frame and compare.
Great review - nice little bird if I needed another ;-)...
Great review - nice little bird if I needed another ;-)... Never understood why Betaflight couldn't implement a "save your configuration/translate it to the new firmware/reinstall the configuration" method.
I added hot glue to the base of that RX wire after my first one came with it broken off before it even was taken out of the box. I also then run it turning around the rubber column and under the bridge frame. I put another dab of hot glue holding to to frame and then pinched the end up verticle in front of the frame bridge. I also added 4 little hot glue feet mounds to the frame the batter sits in. Makes landing it not damage the frame or batter and if your hot glue feet wear down you can scrape the worn foot off with fingernail and replace with another.
I just looked up the weight of the mobula 8 Versions. The O3 is 80g and the Walksnail is 48g. That's an insane difference.
The Cinelog20 O3 is also 2 inch and +4min flighttime is realistic, i use 750mah and also 660mah HV, almost not difference in flighttime, if you want longer flight, think the CL20 is a better option.
Hey @JoshuaBardwell the 12A AIO does in fact have issues burning. The test unit I sent you did in fact smoke itself but BetaFPV sent a replacement. The new Pico has a 20A AIO but they did not send it as a replacement. Make sure you get the newer version if considering the Pico.
thanks for repetitive telling us about the arm angle! Yesterday i flew my cinebot the first time. i flew over a pretty dence forest and i wanted to know if my gf could see me better, when i turn off the blue light :D i accidently disarmed my quad instead of turning the lights off.. :D i fell down armed (nothing happened because i didnt moved my sticks) disarmed and armed again and saved my quad. during the fall i new exactly that i watched ur video and that i turned the max arm angle to 180 degrees. thank u so much!!
Got mine last week but I'm still waiting for the batteries. The 2s 550 mAh Tattu lipo's seem to be out of stock everywhere, at least in Europe.
I think this quad is great for just leisure flying either indoors or outdoor, but for cinematic shots I would rather go with the Cinelog20. Same O3 Air unit, 2 inch props, but much more durable, better frame and 4s batteries. Still a great review, thank you JB :)
I'm with you on that, but i fly the CineOn C20 V2.. even more durable.
what system do you recommend for acrobatics that also use O3 system?
The FC has a Built-in BMP280 Barometer, how would you get that on the OSD working ?
I want to see an comparison on the new micros and which to buy, Pavo Pico, Mobula O3, Flywoo O3, maybee put the Rotor Riot Walksnal together. So many Options for FPV People…
You don't know how much I like the beta fpv mobula 7 0:45
I came to find this comment!!! ❤ But seriously the 75pro is the best frame BetaFPV have come out with! I absolutely love it!!!
@lemonsquareFPV I love it too I have it it's really something
What’s the max output of Lipo that you can go up to on this model. I know it’s a 2S, but can you use a 2S 650 mAp lipo on this quad?
it be cool if you could do a review of geprc cinelog 20 with o3, thinking it maybe my next quad
Would love to see you fly the analogue version of the mob8 your thoroughness would be refreshing. Also information of other beta flight modes worth adding ? Great as always.
Analog? What? Something for us non digi peasants? 😂 don’t hold yer breath brother 😳 Only joking, sometimes he does do an analog review but I don’t know what the near damn silence over the mob 8 is across YT is all about 🤷♂️ shogun Emperor fpv has done some great vids on it 👍🤝
@@bugsy742 haha I hear you! … it has felt very bare on the 8… I’ve gone through pretty much everyone else’s videos on it… can’t help but feel like they are never thorough enough… plus I just like JB’s style 🤞🏽
@@Hrichs my thoughts exactly it’s like just skirting over things- she looks like absolute fun, I’d like to have candy analog one with hd gyroflow like the mob 7 has! I think it has so much potential and want to know more! 😅👍🤝
I have the HDZERO version and it rips! On thing tho. The model match on mine would not update on the FC when I turned it on and off at the radio, whether the quad was powered or not. There is a model match check box on a tab under the ELRS page that pops up when you have your quad in wifi mode. I learned that from one of the guys on the ELRS discord.
Good ole ANALOG2!
Buy this or the Pavo Pico (34g) but get the Flywoo Naked O3 Ultra Air unit (18g). (The Pavo Pico gets reduced from 71g to 53g).
The GNB 530 2s fit the Mob 8 perfectly.
Antenna is great! If it breaks you only need solder on a piece of wire to fix. Ufl connectors are fragile and are easily destroyed. Fix for them is no easy!
I just got the mob8 with the o3. Didnt find the right size batterys. Flying it with 650mah 75c tattu r. Battery drains so fast, like if i go full throttle the o3 shutts off in couple of seconds. Im a newbie to this hobby. Is the battery the problmes here or what else can it be? All the batterys are new.
That thing would be perfect with the Flywoo Naked O3 Lite\Ultra Air unit!
It'll be as fragile as glass! Lol ... And costs a bundle to repair at first crash. 😢
Very minor point, doesn't the Pavo Pico have 45mm props? That probably makes quite a difference too.
Could I just use the o3 reciever and my dji controller by changing it in BF?
for those 75 whoop would be naked o3 from flywoo
:47 - BetaFPV Mobula 7? The HappyModel Mobula 7 I have is junk but absolutely Love my BetaFPV Meteor75
Wonder how the acrobee75 blv4 hd 03 flies. You knew someone was going to do it.
we had a tornado roll by a few years ago and it riped of the bark from some trees
I somehow bought a Action2 you owned. I get it to work!! Want to know how??? Oh yeah, your are on it for about 25sec.
everytime I watch an fpv I feel like i am a fly hahaha
I’ve just been looking at the pavo pico as I’d like a small drone I could fly indoors as well as outside and would work with the DJI fpv controller and goggles 2 I got with DJI avata when there’s no wind. Would you say this one is better ?
I Have a Request Joshua, Can you maybe make a playlist with like these types of drones that are small and use like DJI 03 Air Units, even for possible ones in the future that you may review?
I can confirm flight controller catching fire on my Pavo pico just after two days of using it. Was flying it indoors and had a light crash, when I went to pick it up I found it literally on fire. At first I thought it was the battery but it turned out to be the flight controller.
Just got my replacement from them smh
@@willbrown8928 Good to know. So far I have contacted the retailer and waiting for their response.
Bummer!
@Joshua Bardwell I was assisting someone with setting this up. The USB wasn't detected on the computer to convert to a COM port. I believe the issue may be that the USB cable lacks data transfer capability. The impulseRC_driver wasn't detected by the flight controller. I think I need to buy a USB-mini cable with data capability. Let me know if there's anything else that needs to be looked into.
Now this would probably fly quite a bit better and longer if you modify the O3 AU with the flywoo naked kit for it. Maybe worth a test?
It's already so fragile, making the 03 naked will surely cause some people to really bust this up, costing lots of money to repair! Nah, I'd rather have the huge weight savings of the Naked Vista! It will still give us crystal clear flying, great range, awesome penetration, but save a ton of weight! I could care less about the 4K video I'd take just to clog up my hard drive, never viewing it again. Lol Waste of time for me. This would fly sooooo much better at around 55g vs 80 it's at now. We'd get great flight times outta that same lipo JB barely got 2 minutes from. Sometimes we just need to face facts. This is really, truly, too small of a craft to carry such a heavy VTX. Sure, they did it, but that doesn't mean it's great ... It's just Yeh! Shaving off approx. 25 grams could definitely make it great! And, we don't lose much! 🤔🧐👍
What platform can absorb walksnail mini 1s? Is 75mm with 802 25k kv motors will do?
bro... I just love you and your content 😘
Joshua I have the analog PNP Mobula8. It has the v1.1 X12 AiO FC with an open VTX in-built to the FC. I see 2 available UARTS in BF configurator. UART 1 is for Serial. UART 2 is for TBS Smartaudio. Is there another UART available on the FC? Someone on FB said there is. I asked them to explain where the UART is, but they haven’t replied back yet. I want to add a nano GPS module so I can use GPS Rescue. I’m considering re-purposing UART 2 for the GPS module and just running the VTX at full power all the time. But then there is the wait to get a GPS lock while the VTX is blazing away and burning thru the battery… kind of a dilemma. Thoughts?
Hello ,the analog Mobula8 with a F411 chip flight controller , so there is only 2 sets of uart, that means you can't add GPS module if you used both uart1 and uart2 .
@@happymodelCN can I repurpose UART 2 for the GPS? I understand that I would not be able to communicate with the VTX after this change is made.
@@IAmTheCraftsman Yes , that would be working.
DJI -- the drone that US tech envies.
This is better than betafpv pavopico , I have some issues with fc from betafpv - that sucks
I didn't quite get it, do I have to use ELRS or can I use the DJI FPV Remote Controller 2 too?
You can use fpv controller 2 😊
Roll call, how many people had video die on analog version of these?
is the unit digital or analog
Shoot there are a few folks with the 03 stripped down on a 2s 65mm!
I was under the impression that you crash on the 🌳 🏡 🌲 🎄 🌴 😅😂😅😂😊
Would like to see this with the flywoo naked 03 on it instead
I've been enjoying this quad for a couple months now. First thing that needed changing was the 03 wiring had to be moved under he aio so the props wouldn't strike the connector on a hard crash. The next thing that happened was the antenna's found their way into the props. and needed to be replaced and fixed to the fame to that was impossible. I really with there was a 3S aio I could fit inside it. Overall I think this one is a win and I'm going to add the flywoo naked 03 kit to it soon.
JB NEEDS A NEW 03 FOR HIS ULTIMATE JB FREESTYLE BUILD. A whole 15 seconds longer. Took the top of that battery.. higher kv.
Does the props have any screws?
Joshua: I was watching this video and am interested in getting into FPV. I only have DJI Air 2S cinema drone. I don't know much about controllers, so I was wondering...Do you know if the DJI motion controller 2 and Goggle 2 will fly this drone well? I don't feel like I'm real coordinated with sticks. I used to fly RC nitro planes years and years ago, but I'm just not sure how coordinated I am with sticks anymore. I thought maybe the motion controller 2 would be something I might want to try just to play with a small drone and have fun. Thanks for any input!
Motion controller no. Goggles 2 yes.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ok. Thanks for the response. Would you recommend a drone pe-built or even one I could build that would be able to use the Motion Controller 2? Or a radio, such as your brand? I have adequate ability and tools to solder and whatever else I need do to get started. Just looking for options. I like the DJI stuff. It's all I know, at this point. I have that Hota D6 dual charger, xt60 parallel boards, & 400w DC power supply. I also have the t100 soldering pencil, as well as other odds and ends to build from ground up. I just don't know if I should go that route at first. Thank you, sir!
Only the DJI drones like DJI FPV and Avata can use the motion controller.
Any propeller recommendations?
I love mine. Just made a little edit with it ;) Flies great for its size and weight - not a freestyle machine.. Doesn't stress people out. I use the red GNB 550 HV batteries, which fit perfect. 3.5 minutes of lively flight. I didnt need to, but I put Betaflight 4.4 on, no problem. Grabbed the CLI dump from the Happymodel site and it copied over fine. I use the flywoo ND filter set (cheapest to be found), which included a clear filter so the lens is always protected. Need to replace the o3 antennas with micro vees. Its really hard to keep them out of the props, even with a cable tie stand-off and the micro vees are tougher. With Bluejay you can make the motors beep a little louder - but dont go crazy, 10% extra is fine. Waiting on some 5 blade props (gemfan d51) to make it even quieter.
That's some great Info 👍
have tried the quieter props. Big difference in volume! But the prop wash is a little more prominent if you don't nail it.
Are you still doing Q&A's & the FPV News? I'm in the UK & I haven't had access to any of these livestreams for 4 weeks now 🤔
They are on hold until August 26.
So are you saying you got the best flight with a 450 hv battery ?
Can o use this with any googles?
Hi Joshua, Is it possible to solder a csfr receiver to the mobula 8?
Yes, you can solder crsf receiver to the mobula8 . And also CRSF receiver version would be available for purchase in the USA soon .
@@happymodelCN nice. Do you have a wiring-diagram for it?
Uh oh, I prefer horizon mode, if flying indoors. 😂 What did I miss? I like to be able to go flips or dives, but still be able to avoid crashing to easily inside.
Horizon mode is a liability.. It's angle mode until it just freaks out and flips on you. Learn how to do the flips properly, you'll enjoy it i promise.
@@Secret1one2Interesting. I hadn't heard about that. I have flown acro indoors, but find that a stabilized mode is easier to stop on a dime with, in tight spaces. I guess I need to up my skill level.
@@SunriseWaterMediamost do fly stabilized mode with whoops indoors.
Hello! I had the same problem with "Model Match" on Speedy Bee Master 5 V2. It has HappyModel ELRS. But I just turned off "Model Match" on SpeedyBee" and It fixed my problem. Is it a good solution?
If it worked for you that's all that matters.
@@JoshuaBardwellthanks!
Boom😊