'Putin didn't want the war' John Mearsheimer on Ukraine & Gaza conflicts | SpectatorTV

2024 ж. 9 Мам.
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Freddy Gray speaks to Professor John Mearsheimer, an American foreign policy expert at the Hoover Institute. On the show, Professor Mearsheimer talks about what could happen if Ukraine loses support from the West; why Israeli retaliation towards Gaza has shown evidence of war crimes and what Israel is prepared to do in order to protect the Jewish state.
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  • His article was a short piece and written in plain language. However the interviewer achieved to misquote him. Embarrassing

    @omerdoganci1802@omerdoganci18024 ай бұрын
    • yes. embarrassing and so unprofessional. 'Tabloid-ish'

      @pelvicthrustful@pelvicthrustful4 ай бұрын
    • Fortunately, the author had the opportunity to correct this. And now imagine how distorted everything Putin says is. And he has practically no way to prevent it.

      @lanija19@lanija194 ай бұрын
    • A very British phenomenon

      @ad5792@ad57924 ай бұрын
    • ​@lanija19 Putin realizes by now that western propwash is actually as effective as anything at keeping the she pull and their marionette leaders lost in the narrative labyrinths they created themselves. The combined west is walking itself off the plank and Putin is already ambivalent about it....

      @gmw3083@gmw30834 ай бұрын
    • All people who want to blame Russia always misquote Putin.

      @user-xo1ov2bb9z@user-xo1ov2bb9z4 ай бұрын
  • I love how the Spectator repeatedly argue against “strong language”. Weak language only, please. Let’s keep things watery and meaningless, folks! It’s only a massacre…let’s not get too strong with our language here!

    @searock3024@searock30244 ай бұрын
    • Well, you know, John Mearsheimer is just another white supremacist and Putin puppet. The Spectator sucks. As do most of the mainstream media outlets. They lie without a trace of compunction. John Mearsheimer is "controversial". Good grief. Puke. smh... #FreePalestine and #FreeUkraine from the vicious grip of the collective West.

      @nikosantikythera2422@nikosantikythera24224 ай бұрын
    • I think Mearsheimer doesn’t want to be accused sacrificing accuracy in favor of using breathless or dramatic language.

      @herrgolf@herrgolf4 ай бұрын
    • @@herrgolf I agree. I was criticising the idiot host.

      @searock3024@searock30244 ай бұрын
    • @@herrgolf 'strong' language around this bloodbath and malevolence is accuracy.

      @seanmccuen6970@seanmccuen69704 ай бұрын
    • Massacre or Holocaust or ethnic cleansing are all accurate but genocide might not be. I don’t criticize the use of the word genocide, mind you; I prefer people take this as seriously as possible. I’m just explaining why he might not use the term. And someone in his position needs to be exact with his language for the sake of credibility, especially with so many other people doing the work of calling this a genocide already.

      @herrgolf@herrgolf4 ай бұрын
  • John: 'Israel are committing war crimes'. Freddie: 'But what do you expect them to do?' 🤦

    @sean3148@sean31484 ай бұрын
    • Watch it again and this time either listen to it properly or else don’t misrepresent what was actually said - there really is no need whatever your views are

      @dirtydawg448@dirtydawg4484 ай бұрын
    • ​@dirtydawg448 it's called, reading between the lines

      @gmw3083@gmw30834 ай бұрын
    • I echo the sentiment. Israel's a nation locked in never-ending existential crisis. I don't blame Israel for behaving badly. I blame the UK and U$A for creating this whole situation in 1948 and doubling down on the bad decision ever since.

      @harrymills2770@harrymills27704 ай бұрын
    • ​​​@@harrymills2770Israel is the Anglo-American superempires spear in the side of Arabian territory. It's there for a reason. Grand plans go wrong more often than they go well. Remember Vietnam. Remember Afghanistan. Remember all the losses in between. Israel is a long-running exploit. Ukraine was much shorter. They both made the mistake of trusting America. Never do that....

      @gmw3083@gmw30834 ай бұрын
    • Anyone who supports Ukraine, just because it will upset Russia, is a fool, the west and nato should have kept their noses OUT right at the beginning, I’m from the UK and I totally support Russia, and Mr Putin, we should all have kept our noses out, chances are the war would not have started.

      @jacquelineloaring2438@jacquelineloaring24384 ай бұрын
  • It's dangerous to grant any ideological group impunity or the right to break the rules.

    @annel.bo.briggs@annel.bo.briggs4 ай бұрын
    • or a country, like Russia you can't just invade countries

      @mateuszmazurek7991@mateuszmazurek79914 ай бұрын
    • @@mateuszmazurek7991 Ukraine's main supporter and "master" (Ukraine is already sold to the US) is the biggest invader of your times... Strange, how "the good guys" arent so good... Wouldnt Ukraine, a country, that cares about its souvereignty (like you're implying), oppose help from a country like the US, that has been known for violating the souvereignty of other countries for decades..??? Ukraine (Ukrainian people, to be more specific.. I dont care about Zelenskyi and his junta) is being played like a broken, cheap violin... and sooner or later the US and Brussels will drop Ukraine like a hot potato. Greetings from Germany.

      @oliveryt7168@oliveryt71684 ай бұрын
    • But the NATO and US are allowed to push eastward to Russia’s doorstep 😂from 1991 to 2021 😂​@@mateuszmazurek7991

      @gregwang8628@gregwang86284 ай бұрын
    • As a matter of facr you can. Under International Law, a state may invade a sovereign country if that sovereing country 1) posits a threat to its existence and 2) If that state has disenfranchised a part of its populations based on ethnic differences and persecutes that part of the population based on its ethnicity, which is what Western Ukranians under US interventionism by the hand of Viktoria Fuck the EU Nuland.@@mateuszmazurek7991

      @dbbrainer@dbbrainer4 ай бұрын
    • The United States knows better, too. We used to be a good country. So sad.

      @annel.bo.briggs@annel.bo.briggs4 ай бұрын
  • He has been correct, not controversial.

    @lasisy@lasisy4 ай бұрын
    • Mearsheimer said Russia would never invade Ukraine.

      @joemerino3243@joemerino32434 ай бұрын
    • ​@@joemerino3243 John's message, for years, has been that Russia was not interested in conquering and annexing Ukraine. He keeps saying that Russia is "wrecking Ukraine," so it will be useless to NATO. He says Russia will hold on to those parts of Ukraine that are ethnically Russian and open to being under Russian control, as was the case with Crimea. Putin had supported the Minsk Accords, which would have given the Donbas area some autonomy, but the U.S. undermined the Minsk framework. 8 years ago, J.M. saw exactly where events were trending.

      @SectionSixteen@SectionSixteen4 ай бұрын
    • He’s delusional

      @NightOwlinNewOrleans@NightOwlinNewOrleans4 ай бұрын
    • Ignore the comment@@joemerino3243, it's clearly a Russian bot. The Kremlin has whole teams commenting on KZhead videos like this.

      @Rafael-xt1nm@Rafael-xt1nm4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@SectionSixteenyou are referring to yourself

      @greatman5836@greatman58364 ай бұрын
  • It's odd that Mearsheimer gets a lot of criticism, but he just has a model of how the world works and tells people this is what will occur based on the model. It's like getting upset at trigonometry because you don't like the numbers it returns. He held these views on Ukraine/Russia relations and the dangers of NATO expansion for decades. Realism, it's blunt and a bit dark for some but that is the way it is.

    @trogdortpennypacker6160@trogdortpennypacker61604 ай бұрын
    • The problem is he’s incorrect though. Nato isn’t the issue has never been and Russia didn’t attack because of Nato. There’s a lot of Russian scripture in regards to this war, and events prior such as Putin invading crimea and donbass 2014 that wasn’t Nato related it was Yanukovich ousting and Putin not wanting Ukraine to align itself with European Union so went forth and invaded Crimea then Donbass. Then 2021 Putin writes an essay Historical Unity between Ukraine and Russia where the thesis of the essay, is Ukraine is essentially a fake country and artificially created by the Soviet Union, Ukraine is historical Russian Lands and belongs to Russia, and Ukranians are one people with Russia, meaning that Ukranian isn’t a real identity and that Ukranians are actually Russians in denial. This is what Putin was saying in his essay. A year later he invades in 2022. And during the war, Putin literally showed his true colours with this “Peter the Great didn’t take anything. He returned what is ours. This is what we are doing in Ukraine” So if this war was really about Nato then why is he invoking Peter the Great a Russian tzar, and saying that it’s about “Returning land to Russia” so Meirsheimer has a very one dimensional view on this he ignores a lot of what Putin himself has said about Ukraine, such as it being a fake country, historical Russian land. “new idea for Ukraine has emerged from the North Atlantic Alliance office: Ukraine will be able to join NATO if it gives up the disputed territories. It does look like an interesting idea. The only problem is that all of - supposedly - their territories are highly disputable. And to enter the bloc, the Kiev authorities will have to give up even Kiev itself, the capital of Ancient Rus” “The NATO-Ukraine Council has been created. By way of reminder, in 2002 the NATO-Russia Council was established. How it all ended is well known. Now the Alliance and our country are on (or rather, beyond) the brink of war. This time, it’s going to end differently. The Council will cease to exist because one of the parties will disappear.” This right here. Dmitri Medvedev. Former Russia Prime minister, current deputy council second in Command, top ally to Putin. This is what’s coming out of the Kremlin. Denying Ukraine as a country, saying their territories are disputable and that Ukraine, Kyiv belongs to Russia and that “Ukraine will dissapear” So how can anyone deny this is not russian Imperialism at the core? Nato poses zero threat to Russia at all and never was going to attack Russia a country with thousands of Nukes. Blaming Nato is just lazy, and shows a lack of deep digging on this issue which is disappointing from such a smart man like Meirsheimer. Just because someone is a professor doesn’t mean they’re particularly knowledgeable on an issue or correct. Appeal to authority is a real thing. On this issue this guy is totally wrong

      @jorgeandrade783@jorgeandrade7834 ай бұрын
    • @@jorgeandrade783 What was the precipitating cause for taking Crimea in 2014 and invading the Donbass in 2022? You are reading wartime propaganda as if people are telling the full truth. Russia is a great power, and great powers want a sphere of influence and to secure themselves with respect to other great powers. Mearsheimer told us exactly what would happen in Ukraine (primrose path lecture) and then it happened. Why is his model capable of telling us what Russia is going to do?

      @user-gy1pu3gq3d@user-gy1pu3gq3d4 ай бұрын
    • @@user-gy1pu3gq3d The precise reason of 2014 was because Putin’s crony Yanukovich got ousted and he wasn’t happy with that. So he invaded Crimea and Donbass and again 2022. Ukraine wasn’t even close to joining nato in 2022, if you actually look at it, it’s not possible for countries to join nato while having territorial disputes. So Ukraine had no way to join Nato in 2022, and wasn’t anywhere close to. Bottom line Russia invaded Ukraine because it wanted to, believes Ukraine is historical Russian land and they’re proving it now. They’re taking territory, declaring Ukranian regions as Russian land. This is not what you do if you’re scared of Nato. This is what you do if you’ve always wanted to attack Ukraine and believe you have a right to invade countries. You say Meirsheimer predicted but Ukraine wasn’t even close to joining Nato anyways. It literally was impossible for Ukraine to join Nato while Russia was occupying Crimea and Donbass. And Russia was never going to give up those two regions anyway so Ukraine was never going to join Nato while Russia occupied Ukranian land. Also, Ukraine made a deal with Kozak, Putin’s aide before the invasion. They agreed to not join Nato. Putin invaded anyway. This has been reported by Reuters. So it was never about Nato its just an excuse. The Nato thing is propaganda too. You accuse war time propaganda while using the Nato scapegoat which is propaganda in itself

      @jorgeandrade783@jorgeandrade7834 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@jorgeandrade783Nice speech you wrote out there. I have a little problem with it though. Here's a quote from the NATO secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in September of this year. “President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement,” Stoltenberg told a joint committee meeting of the European Parliament on September 7. “That was what he sent us. And [that] was a pre-condition for not invade [sic] Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that." You're either an absolute tool or a CIA/Ukro troll and there's no 3 ways about it!

      @acktionjackson666@acktionjackson6664 ай бұрын
    • Mearsheimer has another theory and that is the security dilemma. You may say that what you do is defensive only; but it’s what the other side believes that matters. Was Cuba ever an existential threat to the USA? I don’t think so. Russia is entitled to its own Monroe doctrine.

      @richiesd1@richiesd14 ай бұрын
  • Whatever has changed? The spectator actually talking to someone who knows what hes talking about

    @jjcustard6378@jjcustard63784 ай бұрын
    • Spot on. The MSM in the UK totally ignore him. Inc. the "fact checkers" (I can see why). To most fellow Brits I know his arguments and common sense does not even exist.

      @andrewnorris5415@andrewnorris54154 ай бұрын
  • Why is he talking like ukraine was was going into NATO....ukraine was not even in sight of Joining Nato!...old guy has no idea whats going on....just from media....Go to Ukraine and you will see

    @arbenrashiti68@arbenrashiti684 ай бұрын
    • NATO membership for Ukraine has been pushed by the US government for decades.

      @wintercook2@wintercook23 ай бұрын
    • That guy is the right-wing paid professional liar. Absolutely nothing he says is to be believed. That's why normal media won't interview him. The American spectator is a lie Factory.

      @clarkmacgowan5114@clarkmacgowan51143 ай бұрын
    • You are right de jure, you are not right de facto. It was obvious by the treaty of September 2021 signed in Washington between Biden and Zelensky. You may look it up, this treaty is openly accessible on the website of the state department. You may also let it be if it does not fit into your narrative that makes you feel comfortable.

      @Leo-ie3eb@Leo-ie3eb3 ай бұрын
    • Lol no idea what he's talking about 😂

      @jimbrown4456@jimbrown44564 күн бұрын
  • 12:11 "You would not expect this from the Israelis, given the holocaust. Given the horrors that were inflicted on Jews in Europe..." Why would you not expect this? This isn't a very 'realistic' framing of human nature Rather, consider the phenomenon where children who grow up in abusive households disproportionately display abusive behavior toward others in adulthood Then you see, when people experience suffering, it doesn't necessarily transform them into paragons of virtue. Sometimes, it scars and ruins them, damages their ability to relate to other people

    @Zidana123@Zidana1234 ай бұрын
    • do smoke rock?

      @trickyric67@trickyric674 ай бұрын
    • Indeed. It's not *in spite of* but rather *because of* the Holocaust that Israel became what it did. Other critics of Israel frequently bring up this issue and they never seem to get it, perhaps because they are sensitive to the feelings of Jews.

      @tb8865@tb88654 ай бұрын
    • This is *exactly* the reaction you would expect from Israel. And almost certainly what the Hamas leadership actually wanted and plannned for. Show me a single example where the Israelis do not go in hard. The only surprise this time was the long initial delay in the military action on the ground. Whether it's wise or not (it may well not be) is another matter. But Hamas have truly brought this on themselves and there is no one else to blame.

      @peterbennet7145@peterbennet71454 ай бұрын
    • A rather shallow explanation, in fact justification of the very cynical and sadistic cruelty. Let us not forget that Israel was born out of Jewish terrorism, and that Jewish terror organisation were waging campaigns of terror attack on the British (including efforts to assassinate Winston Churchill) even BEFORE the Holocaust. Then, we have many examples of cruelty, sadism, sexual violence WITHIN, like the infamous Zvi Migdal, the chronic abuse Amos Oz's daughter had been exposed to, the ZAKA brothers' misdeeds, and in fact sadistic, cruel, cynical, vile, and frankly psychopathic examples throughout the Jewish Bible, or Torah.

      @calicocat8213@calicocat82134 ай бұрын
    • ​@@calicocat8213how sad you had to reach so far back for Jewish terrorism...which was tiny tiny group btw if extremists...while we've had how many islamic terror groups?

      @libertasdemocratiam887@libertasdemocratiam8874 ай бұрын
  • 1. Moscow's concerns about NATO expansion go back to mid and late 1990s, under Yeltsin - statements by military officials, diplomats, and a few times by Yeltsin himself. And it is not just Mearsheimer. For example, George Kennan ("Fateful Error" article), Ambassador Jack Mattlock, K. Waltz ("Structural realism After the Cold War"), historian Stephen Cohen, Georg Gysi speech in Bundestag in March 2014. I'm not saying that they GOT THE TRUTH DOWN, but just that there are other former diplomats, politicians, and current professors who hold similar views. 2. Moscow was saying in the Fall of 2021 that they are seeing US-UK move Ukraine into interoperability with NATO without membership, sort of "under the radar". UK and Poland were in the process of working out and signing a security agreement with Ukraine in late 2021. NATO officers were working in Ukraine and US would send B-52s to fly over central Ukraine, NATO had wargames in the Black Sea, and UK was building two naval bases for Ukraine and sent a warship to sail right up to Crimea's waters that year. 3. I'm not of the view that all Moscow wants is just pure defense. There is a desire to expand influence and rebuild the economic and geopolitical space, but it is stimulated by EU-NATO expansion, which has seen 3 stages prior to 2014. Of course Moscow wants a sphere of influence right near its border where it will be the political center, not Washington and the EU. There is no purely defensive strategy possible on the eastern European plain - this isn't Australia or N.America. But keep in mind that Washington considers Middle East, Eastern Europe, and East Asia as zones that affect its security. So is it not possible for Russia to have its zone next to its borders? Of course it is! When countries exert influence over their weaker neighbors, inc. eventually by force when all else fails, it is a form of imperialism. I think this was stimulated by NATO-EU getting closer and closer, inc. agreements to build US military bases in Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria prior 2014. And after the nationalists took power in Ukraine their posture was that together with the West they don't have to listen to Moscow's wishes and can resist its pressure. And so this is where we are today. 4. Eventually the US will need to deal with expanding Chinese influence in the Caribbean, inc. military installations. And it will try to exert pressure through various policies on China's partners in the region. These states will speak of US imperialism. In fact some states in the Caribbean already speak of this. 5. braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine

    @elroz1675@elroz16754 ай бұрын
    • The relationship russia has w Ukraine is quite different from US relations w states to its south. I wouldn’t argue what Russia is doing in Ukraine qualifies as imperialism. I sympathize with Ukrainians’ desire to join the west, but the identity of Ukrainian nationality being imposed on Ukraine the state is an artificial construct. Furthermore Ukraine as it exists was a creation of the Soviet Union and was never meant to be independent. To me, this is more a continuation of Soviet collapse and I’d almost call it a war civil war or war of secession.

      @herrgolf@herrgolf4 ай бұрын
    • Nailed it, this should be pinned in the description, thank you.

      @merocaine@merocaine4 ай бұрын
    • You keep repeating "Moscow" as if the Russian government were somehow a solid block fully united in the invasion of Ukraine. Rather it was a single person, Vladimir Putin, who "chose" to see a security threat that did not exist and cowed and threatened Russian opposition politicians into either sharing his distorted vision - or facing imprisonment or murder. Structural explanations do not work in this case. Personal explanations do.

      @2Uahoj@2Uahoj4 ай бұрын
    • garbage and nonsense.

      @gregoryplaszewski6125@gregoryplaszewski61254 ай бұрын
    • Moscow was laughed upon when it offered to join Nato Moscow was ignored when it pointed that the promise of "not an in inch further tibtge east" was broken Moscow summoned for the promises to be kept and actually Putin has always beeb verry pro western. He did his best, but i guess after 2007 he gave up

      @mysecretpleasure@mysecretpleasure4 ай бұрын
  • I don't think that the US thought they could win the war. They thought that they could cripple Russia with their sanctions and prolong the war, thereby severely weakening Russia. This shows an absolute disdain for all the Ukrainians that have died in this senseless war.

    @wbafc1231@wbafc12314 ай бұрын
    • I'm counting beans here mate!

      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson@DarrenJamiesonJamieson4 ай бұрын
    • You are correct. Sanctions were a serious threat to Russia, but they ended up back firing on especially Europe.

      @b1lyb@b1lyb4 ай бұрын
    • You are right. If Ukraine bordered on the US, it would be a different story. It's astounding that the EU would allow this to happen on its doorstep. Ukraine is of no consequence to Europe other than it's wheat, women and as a buffer state.

      @bighappygomateshwara8794@bighappygomateshwara87944 ай бұрын
    • @@bighappygomateshwara8794 Europe paying back for their Marshall plan. Marshall plan 2.0 incoming...

      @RicardoIv@RicardoIv4 ай бұрын
    • @@bighappygomateshwara8794 You talking bullshit

      @janjasiewicz9851@janjasiewicz98514 ай бұрын
  • Yes, and Hitler didn't want WW2 either. Thank goodness for Mearsheimer's enlightened thinking...Putin didn't want the war. Hmmmmm. Naivity in extremis.

    @Worldgonemad99@Worldgonemad994 ай бұрын
  • Let’s face it, Mearsheimer is considered controversial because he tells the truth.

    @vassilok@vassilok4 ай бұрын
    • Go tell that to war crazed westerners who haven't learned fuck o from the last twenty three years of History.

      @ilnigromante666@ilnigromante6664 ай бұрын
    • He doesn't tell the truth

      @dimashevchenkoua@dimashevchenkoua4 ай бұрын
    • His first sentence was a lie. Support for Ukraine amongst Americans increased in the last month, most notably in a Fox News poll, of all places, where it increased by 10%. Which Meirsheimer fully knows but chooses to disseminate disinformation instead, for obvious reasons.

      @djanitatiana@djanitatiana4 ай бұрын
    • He is a liar and an apologist for genocide. Other than that he is a great person.

      @pravak6745@pravak67454 ай бұрын
    • Let’s face it, Mearsheimer is considered controversial because he is telling lies.

      @ekesandras1481@ekesandras14814 ай бұрын
  • Pro-Russian audience must be happy to hear him. But I don't understand how his analysis is any more expert than my average taxi driver's. They both seem to be using the same sources and data analysis methods, both very superficial and unscientific. The man's ego is so inflated that he'd be ecstatic if Russians used nukes just because he predicted it.

    @natiaandguladze@natiaandguladze4 ай бұрын
  • Gratitude

    @dragonflydroneservices1021@dragonflydroneservices10214 ай бұрын
  • Mainstream media allowing someone who speaks the truth to be interviewed? What is happening to the world?

    @rafaelbaere1707@rafaelbaere17074 ай бұрын
    • The $pectator isn't exactly mainstream.

      @harrymills2770@harrymills27704 ай бұрын
    • I'm not a fan of Mary (Queen of Scots), myself!

      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson@DarrenJamiesonJamieson4 ай бұрын
    • Mearsheimer claimed Putin would not attack Ukraine. That hardly turned out to be "truth".

      @pplr1@pplr14 ай бұрын
    • He also claimed Russia was losing, he also claimed Russia wanted to conquer Kiev last year and so on. But in this interview he is more or less accurate.@@pplr1

      @rafaelbaere1707@rafaelbaere17074 ай бұрын
  • What fool believes that Ukraine can defeat Russia in a military contest? It's like saying Mexico could beat the US.

    @danielbtwd@danielbtwd4 ай бұрын
    • With the help they were promised, they could

      @tomeyckmans9389@tomeyckmans93894 ай бұрын
    • Here's one: @@tomeyckmans9389

      @mnemonicpie@mnemonicpie4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@tomeyckmans9389what help is that?😂

      @godhallelujahgaming7947@godhallelujahgaming79474 ай бұрын
    • It's even more ludicrous, as Ukraine iherited from the Soviet Union some excelent military industry, like tank factories (in Kharkiv, for example), airplane engine factories, military shipyards like the one in the port of Nikolaev. Ukraine had dozens if not hundreds of air defense units, self-propelled artillery, heavy mortars, armored personnel carriers, etc. Furthermore, several military academies from the Soviet era remained on Ukrainian territory (as is apparently the case with a very good artillery academy, as Russian military personnel have admitted: some Russian commanders speak with respect of the work of the Ukrainians who graduated from that academy). Finally, since at least 2016 (if not earlier) Ukraine has had hundreds of US and NATO instructors training its military. Ukraine has participated in military exercises with NATO since 2014. Mexico is much weaker against the United States than Ukraine is against Russia.

      @5Cd2@5Cd24 ай бұрын
    • ​@@godhallelujahgaming7947don't be like a joke buddy. You know what i mean

      @tomeyckmans9389@tomeyckmans93894 ай бұрын
  • Mershheimer is NOT at the Hoover institute.

    @andyjay5903@andyjay59034 ай бұрын
  • What Mearsheimer says is only "controversial" if you happen to not know any facts of the case. If you can grasp some basic objective truths surrounding the subject, Mearsheimer's words are simply informative & insightful. Controversy doesn't enter into it.

    @jasondelvaux3036@jasondelvaux30364 ай бұрын
    • If you are going to post publicly, then please at least write full sentences in English and avoid splitting infinitives ! same goes for the third post here - very poor!

      @PyeHillFarm@PyeHillFarm4 ай бұрын
    • I fully agree. It is not controversial given entire hisorical context.

      @vespass225@vespass2254 ай бұрын
    • @@PyeHillFarm Russian trolls and bots are still not good enough at English.

      @robbas_krk1510@robbas_krk15104 ай бұрын
    • lol @@robbas_krk1510

      @PyeHillFarm@PyeHillFarm4 ай бұрын
    • I'm not a troll, and I started it, because of what creating The Ukraine did to my niece. What of it?

      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson@DarrenJamiesonJamieson4 ай бұрын
  • A bully when they're punching you down: "YOU made me do it"!

    @BJack1983@BJack19834 ай бұрын
  • One of the few people consistently right about the Ukraine War.

    @ilnigromante666@ilnigromante6664 ай бұрын
    • Hahahah, is this sarcasm?

      @dimashevchenkoua@dimashevchenkoua4 ай бұрын
    • In his (and your) dreams maybe.

      @NightOwlinNewOrleans@NightOwlinNewOrleans4 ай бұрын
    • No. The creation of The Ukraine was badly wrong.

      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson@DarrenJamiesonJamieson4 ай бұрын
    • Plus Jeffrey Sachs the late Stephen Cohen also many intelligent Americans who you find on the Internet as against the western MSM

      @barrieroberts75@barrieroberts754 ай бұрын
    • He's verifiably wrong with every pronouncement.

      @djanitatiana@djanitatiana4 ай бұрын
  • It’s nice to see mainstream media finally finally beginning to catch up with reality instead of just ceaselessly parroting the neocon propaganda.

    @Alok-fg8dd@Alok-fg8dd4 ай бұрын
    • Long overdue.

      @samb2052@samb20524 ай бұрын
    • Nice try, Ivan

      @obriets@obriets4 ай бұрын
    • Mearsheimer's "reality" is the 19th century. He's said so himself.

      @gintasvilkelis2544@gintasvilkelis25444 ай бұрын
    • @@gintasvilkelis2544 Actually, it's what I would call realpolitik, and it was pursued fairly successfully by the US in the post war period. Putin and China continue to pursue it to this very day, whilst we decided to followed the path of an "ethical" foreign policy, whose consequence so far has been multiple wars in the name of regime change, and millions of lives lost . Now the chickens are coming home to roost. The only regimes that need to change now are our own!

      @Alok-fg8dd@Alok-fg8dd4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Alok-fg8dd While I'm not saying that realpolitik is _completely_ irrelevant, the problem with Mearsheimer is that he's a _purist_ of this ideology, including believing that a bully must _always_ be given everything he demands - simply because a bully will be _more willing_ to use violence to get what he wants. This logic would have made a lot of sense if each country in the world were standing entirely alone and on their own when facing a military invasion by another country. But things like NATO _change_ that equation dramatically, because while Russia _could_ defeat the vast majority of European countries _individually,_ it's nowhere near powerful enough to defeat an alliance like NATO - which is precisely why Russia dislikes the growth of NATO so much: because "it takes off the menu" many of the intended future invasion targets. It's basically like a bank robber getting upset when seeing banks, that they were planning to rob, dramatically beefing up their security measures.

      @gintasvilkelis2544@gintasvilkelis25444 ай бұрын
  • To put it into context, compare taking Kiyv, a city of 3+ million with a force of some 10000-15000 troops. To Israels current invasion, mass bombardment and airstrikes on Gaza, a city of 2 million with a vastly larger and arguably more advanced force, a city only protected by small arms and IEDs, 0 heavy equipment, artillery support or armored vehicles/tanks, compared to Ukraine, which, albeit modernizing, but still had access to real military tools.

    @WTF2BlueTiger@WTF2BlueTiger4 ай бұрын
    • And also the fact that Russia now has 700 000 troops in Ukraine, but then Mearsheimer thinks that Russia can still win the war with those 700 000 troops despite the fact that Ukraine now has mobilized several hundreds of thousands of troops after the start of the war and gained lots of western weapons. Pretty stupit Putins dog for a professor.

      @zenonelealainen3750@zenonelealainen37503 ай бұрын
    • This so called prof. is a pro-Putin Nazbol and anti republican and anti Democrat. Listen to him carefully.

      @blacklion8208@blacklion82083 ай бұрын
    • @@zenonelealainen3750 I guess you are a more educated great-power expert than prof. Mearsheimer, are you?

      @fifikusz@fifikusz3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@fifikusz I guess, I am not working for the KGP like Dr. Mearsheimer.

      @zenonelealainen3750@zenonelealainen37503 ай бұрын
    • What are you babbling about? What's even the point of what you wrote? "Compare taking Kyiv (*not Kiyv) to taking Gaza." So what?

      @evernight.@evernight.2 ай бұрын
  • John's insight, knowledge of geopolitical affairs are the best on independent media, his lecture on Ukraine back in 2016 was prophetic... Level headed and precise....well done spectator for a great choice of informed discussion

    @yogig6271@yogig62714 ай бұрын
    • He was not alone.. Zbegniew Brizinski also forecast the Ukrainian crisis

      @bma1955alimarber@bma1955alimarber4 ай бұрын
    • He literally lied that Putin wouldn't attack Kyiv in 2022. Also, Russia invaded Ukraine 2 years prior 2016.

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • Mearscheimer has interesting and unconventional perspectives on the conflict that I greatly appreciate. I've learned a lot from his interviews. However, what strikes me as odd is his apparent position that the US/NATO are completely at fault for the invasion. Nothing works this way. It is never "one side good, other bad", and I've never seen him critical of Russia/Putin. He also somewhat dodges the interviewer's question at 7:30 about the intentions for Kiev and instead answers a slightly different question (Russia's intention vs. capabilities). For those of us who have good memory and were paying close attention in the month or so before the invasion, we recall Russia lying continuously and claiming "hysteria" with regard to invasion plans. They clearly tried to take Kiev and kill Zelensky early on and failed (remember all the assassins that Ukraine "eliminated"?). Putin was banking on Zelensky being a coward and NATO failing to show up, which all obviously backfired. It's also evident from watching Russian State TV that the public were mislead into thinking this would be a quick operation to dismantle a "Nazi regime" (and implicitly instate one of its own).

    @MrFuncti0n@MrFuncti0n4 ай бұрын
    • What you explain about the start of the war is very obvious so Prof. M’s denial of this reality makes the rest of his arguments hard to take at face value. The more you look at his ideas the less sense they make.

      @WilkinsMichael@WilkinsMichael4 ай бұрын
    • They tried to pressure the government for negotiations. That's why they were near Kiev. When they thought that negotiations were moving forward, they withdrew from Kiev. That was when ukrainian and russian delegations were talking in Istanbul. The fight for Kiev was never a large scale battle. There were some skirmishes to encircle it, the rest is media misrepresentation

      @peterruf1462@peterruf14624 ай бұрын
    • @@peterruf1462 This is hilariously delusional. It was a huge extended battle that involved a lot of loss of life and material on both sides. Encircling a large city like Kiev is no small thing. They withdrew because they took heavy losses and couldn't achieve their goal of a quick Ukrainian collapse. If they thought an attack on the capital was simply some sort of negotiating tactic that in itself is morally and logically bankrupt.

      @WilkinsMichael@WilkinsMichael4 ай бұрын
    • @WilkinsMichael The timeline supports my reading of the situation. Especially with the Istanbul negotiations. Obviously, a military presence near the capital is coercion, but a peace deal back then would have left Ukraine in a better situation. They would have lost 2 oblasts but now they lost 4 and by the end of the war possibly up to 8. And couldn't have annexed them as easily. It would have been like abchasia and south ossetia. As for the battle of kiev, there were never pictures similar to mariupol bakhmut or any other large battle that happened during the war. If this was a big battle, there should have been visual evidence for that.

      @peterruf1462@peterruf14624 ай бұрын
    • @@peterruf1462 I believe Putin tought that Ukraine would simply surrender quickly and as such they tought they didnt need as large of a force

      @florianfritz3589@florianfritz35894 ай бұрын
  • All due respect, Mearsheimer is mistaken when he says Russia had no interest in taking Kyiv. The leaked Russian plan, that the US broadcast publicly for months before the war, included taking Kyiv, on paper an easy task, only 60 miles from the Belarus border. And Russia tried, they got to Kyivs northern suburbs before being beaten back. Russia tried to secure Hostomel airport near Kyiv and had thousands of troops prepared to land there, to go into Kyiv & overthrow Zelensky, but Ukraine made Hostomel untenable. So I have no idea why any historia would claim Russia had no interest in taking Kyiv, when their 40 mile convoy was most of the way to (drumroll please) KYIV, before being annihilated. Did Putin just want to sacrifice thousands of troops and hundreds of armored vehicles just for show by reaching Kyiv's suburbs? What an absurd analysis from someone claiming to be an expert on Russia.

    @PatCash-sr9pt@PatCash-sr9pt3 ай бұрын
    • Do you think if Russia want to take Kiev now Ukraine can stop them?

      @brightonboka3013@brightonboka30133 ай бұрын
  • Top. Thank you

    @pkh2201@pkh22014 ай бұрын
  • Then do not attack Ukraine. We do not do excuses. No more than with Hitler which you would think people would have learned from. End the war. Archangel Michael

    @dazknight9326@dazknight93264 ай бұрын
  • As the occupying power does Israel legally have a right of "self-defence"?

    @wbafc1231@wbafc12314 ай бұрын
    • Yes, it does.

      @misha1144@misha11444 ай бұрын
    • ​@@misha1144No it does not according to international law.

      @LisaD-yy4gq@LisaD-yy4gq4 ай бұрын
    • @@LisaD-yy4gq 😂😂😂 You don't even know that international law is, what ocuppier means in legal sense. You are obviously not ...bright

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
    • @@josipag2185 You're making no sense. Try again.

      @LisaD-yy4gq@LisaD-yy4gq4 ай бұрын
    • @@LisaD-yy4gq Will California USA have a "legal right" to defend itself from Mexican military seeking to liberate its ancestral terretories taken away by war action of 1848?

      @misha1144@misha11444 ай бұрын
  • Spectator featuring Mearsheimer is part of the slow conditioning of ppl to get used to a NATO defeat, tragically at expense of Ukraine.

    @Ruhel74@Ruhel744 ай бұрын
    • playing the agenda of drumpty-dumpty in advance. you know, that loser that got indicted 4 times, with 91 charges. pretty appalling...

      @timotheusvanesch3959@timotheusvanesch39594 ай бұрын
    • And with NATO discredited and humiliated, perhaps it can be disbanded as it serves no constructive purpose outside of serving the MIC

      @galahadthreepwood@galahadthreepwood4 ай бұрын
    • Somewhere in your comment, the fact that Ukraine wants to remain independent from Putin’s Russia; and chose to fight to defend its autonomy. And the whole of Europe as in NATO didn’t force Ukraine to fight Russia; you also forgot that American offered Zelensky asylum and were willing to concede that Russia would take the whole of Ukraine. There are a lot of very ignorant and gullible people on this comment thread buying into the Mearsheimer BS.

      @TheHighlanderprime@TheHighlanderprime4 ай бұрын
    • cool story bro

      @Niall101a@Niall101a4 ай бұрын
    • FYI, NATO is not fighting Russia; Ukraine is … So what NATO defeat are you talking about?

      @TheHighlanderprime@TheHighlanderprime4 ай бұрын
  • Is true that the US and UK really led Ukraine to its present disastrous state.

    @BWong1234@BWong12344 ай бұрын
    • Yes

      @KremBananTV@KremBananTV4 ай бұрын
    • Of course its not true. There was ZERO chance of peace in Turkey as if Putin would be giving up land. There are a whole bunch of Putin apologists here who blame anyone except the person who started the war which is Putin.

      @TimMountjoy-zy2fd@TimMountjoy-zy2fd4 ай бұрын
    • Yup. Indian mainstream media covered it well at the time (negotiations in Istanbul). Both the U.S. and UK also backed the violent overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected government in 2014. Ukraine has always been a badly divided country (Google image election results before 2014), however, people tolerated each other up until the government was overthrown. It was the catalyst for this war. Crimea was annexed afterwards, there were talks about Sevastopol being a NATO base by U.S. military officials. This Naval base had been Russian since the 1700s. They had a leasing agreement with Ukraine after 1991.

      @AlexCats@AlexCats4 ай бұрын
    • @@AlexCats Not true, president was removed by a vote in parliament after ordering the shooting of protesters

      @georgewade4656@georgewade46564 ай бұрын
    • Yes & Double Yes. Seen it in person.

      @jamesvalpuesta@jamesvalpuesta4 ай бұрын
  • "Putin didn't want the war"... seriously? what are you talking about?!?

    @phantomlord2550@phantomlord25504 ай бұрын
    • RU has been trying to talk some sense into NATO for 2 decades. (Most recently 2 months before the invasion.) They got laughed at. Meanwhile USA has been funneling weapons to Ukraine for years, they boasted about it.

      @jaroslavzaruba2765@jaroslavzaruba27654 ай бұрын
    • Seriously What are you talking about? He literally explained it in the freaking video? For years Russia tried and failed with the Minsk agreements that Ukraine kept breaking as it kept increasing its anti Russian laws, banning of political parties and increasing arms spending because it wanted to conquer back the breakaway regions? Russia showed back in like literally 2008 that NATO encroachment was unacceptable, you dont have to like it, no one really supports it, but why poke the bear? China isnt trying to build military bases in Mexico or Canada because it knows the US would sanction, disrupt and eventually invade those countries if it came down to it (And china and mexico are not so stupid as to let china build bases there either, Ukraine evidently was NOT so smart).

      @WTF2BlueTiger@WTF2BlueTiger4 ай бұрын
    • Is he really that stupid or just a RuZZian propagandist??

      @Tubeinnit@Tubeinnit3 ай бұрын
    • @@jaroslavzaruba2765 ok Vladdy 🤖 🤣🤣🤣

      @Tubeinnit@Tubeinnit3 ай бұрын
    • @@jaroslavzaruba2765 Putin has no right to say what Ukraine should or shouldn't do. If Ukraine wants into NATO, it's their decision.

      @consonaadversapars@consonaadversapars3 ай бұрын
  • Spectator needs to find someone better prepared than this poor interviewer, this was embarrassing for him.

    @pmays4@pmays44 ай бұрын
    • A bit harsh

      @barryyoung@barryyoung4 ай бұрын
    • Yes, my sentiments too. Clueless.

      @waynegrow4141@waynegrow41414 ай бұрын
    • Aside from the misquote (which he immediately apologized for), I thought he did fine.

      @joycejulep9115@joycejulep91154 ай бұрын
    • I think that the questions he asks have to remain within the limits of keeping his job. Freedom of the press (editorial/publisher) does not equate journalistic freedom. He looks stupid sometimes, but that's what you have to do to earn a living.

      @marclandreville6367@marclandreville63674 ай бұрын
    • It wouldn't matter who's sent to represent the Spectator. The outcome will be the same. MSM got indoctrinated in their own narratives that they got to believe everything thrown at them by officialdom however absurd those narratives might be.

      @ripplingeffect9339@ripplingeffect93394 ай бұрын
  • john is a man of dignity and credibility - all respect for him

    @husamjon5971@husamjon59713 ай бұрын
  • Now, let's be clear, for Justice, there is not much difference between someone who has committed a genocide or war crimes such as the ones in Gaza, for both are crimes against humanity, the worst of the worst.

    @Toto8opus@Toto8opus4 ай бұрын
    • Yes, of course.

      @garythomas4936@garythomas49364 ай бұрын
    • Hope your including Hamas in this ?

      @baldersn4474@baldersn44744 ай бұрын
    • ​@@baldersn4474 Of course, but remember that Hamas is not a State, while Israel is, and an ostensibly democratic one at that.

      @Fernando-ox5mo@Fernando-ox5mo4 ай бұрын
  • 12:02 yes that is precisely the argument!!!

    @sircharlesnot@sircharlesnot4 ай бұрын
  • Finally, some reality bursting the British media bubble on foreign affairs

    @11JTmc@11JTmc4 ай бұрын
  • Almost everything Mr Mearsheimer says is testament to his complete lack of grasp on the Russia / Ukraine situation. This war is about regime security and imperialism for Putin. To say he didn't want it is an absurdity. To quote Vlad Vexler: "John Mearsheimer is reviewing a Vietnamese restaurant from 20,000 feet."

    @johnnygreen1376@johnnygreen13764 ай бұрын
    • Right on. Still, he's at least thought provoking.

      @bramblebop1904@bramblebop19044 ай бұрын
    • @@bramblebop1904 yep! He's definitely part of the debate.

      @johnnygreen1376@johnnygreen13764 ай бұрын
    • Aber, im Gegenteil zum Herrn Mearsheimer, wissen Sie jonnygreen1376@ ganz genau, was Putin mit dieser Militäroffensive erreichen will. Und er hat Ihnen persönlich mitgeteilt, dass es im dabei um die "Sichercheit des Regimes und den Imperialismus" geht. Wieder ein Fall von angelsächsischer Arroganz

      @sustareugenia8271@sustareugenia82714 ай бұрын
  • John Mearsheimer will never criticise Putin for war crimes.

    @williamwyllie7072@williamwyllie70724 ай бұрын
    • Crimes on the base of what law systems?

      @robertoandreamadonna6025@robertoandreamadonna60254 ай бұрын
    • @@robertoandreamadonna6025 Invading another country.

      @markrobinowitz8473@markrobinowitz84734 ай бұрын
    • @@markrobinowitz8473 what law systems? it was the ukranian army that invaded the people repubblic of doneskt

      @robertoandreamadonna6025@robertoandreamadonna60254 ай бұрын
    • @@robertoandreamadonna6025 You have the democratic right to believe that both Hitler and Putin are perfect gentlemen if that is what you believe

      @williamwyllie7072@williamwyllie70724 ай бұрын
    • @@robertoandreamadonna6025 Donetsk and Crimea are both legally and morally part of Ukraine not Russia.

      @williamwyllie7072@williamwyllie70724 ай бұрын
  • John Mearsheimer is admirably realistic, fair, calm and refined in his assertions. Virtues which are increasilgly rare in political discourse everywhere. That's what makes him a towering figure in IR academia. Always enjoy and learn listening to him.

    @blankslate6393@blankslate63934 ай бұрын
    • Really? I find the more I listen to him the less he makes sense. His arguments often don't even have internal logic and also often contradict his own views on other conflicts. When confronted with contradictions in his own arguments he just dismisses them and if pressed gets pissy and never answers. Not sure why he is such a big deal, he seems to be a very poor thinker.

      @WilkinsMichael@WilkinsMichael4 ай бұрын
    • @@WilkinsMichaelthe best thinkers generally are to busy thinking writing or teaching to be on tv.

      @redwithblackstripes@redwithblackstripes4 ай бұрын
    • Poor thinker? Mearsheimer predicted a Russian military reaction already 2016 if the West would continue to push Ukraine into NATO. Not only him. The US ambassador in Moscow at the time wrote a memorandum to Washington stating the same perception. Nobody cared about it, might makes right. I often wonder why good arguments do not reach the brains of listeners. What must not be, cannot be.

      @Leo-ie3eb@Leo-ie3eb3 ай бұрын
  • From 11/15/23: ‘According to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), significant reservoirs of oil and natural gas have been found off the Gaza Strip and elsewhere under the occupied West Bank.’ 🤔

    @jaxel45@jaxel454 ай бұрын
    • No, are not significant. And just gas, without oil.

      @ilyapolishuk5126@ilyapolishuk51264 ай бұрын
    • Seems like you are forgetting something, Israel was attacked, many Israeli civilians were gunned down in cold blood, Israel was not attacking before this

      @JamesBond-bb7bm@JamesBond-bb7bm4 ай бұрын
    • Conspiracy theory has entered the chat

      @Veritas419@Veritas4194 ай бұрын
    • @@Veritas419 How without it?

      @ilyapolishuk5126@ilyapolishuk51264 ай бұрын
  • Deeply heartened by the comments on here. Bravo to The Spectator audience: smart, informed, logical, not easily swayed. 👏

    @lembergnative7731@lembergnative77314 ай бұрын
    • Eh? Most of the comments now are from people who've clearly bought all of the BBC's Russophobic and anti-democratic propaganda

      @fellowcitizen@fellowcitizen4 ай бұрын
    • smirking what he wasn't watching russian tv for last 20 yars . what they were saying us will fight with russia till last ukainian. why say that if they didn't want the war why invade try coup. or he means putin wanted to exterminate ukrainian elites and install some kidn of bloody north korea regime then yes he didn't want war he wanted gulag without war.

      @marions7423@marions74234 ай бұрын
    • Sure 'smart, informed, logical, not easily swayed' - I doubt that you have similar compliments for those not toeing the botoxed murderer line..

      @nikolaikrustev1159@nikolaikrustev11594 ай бұрын
    • @@nikolaikrustev1159it doesn’t take a genius to see Israel for it for what it is, that includes the collective west

      @anotherbrickinthewall1169@anotherbrickinthewall11694 ай бұрын
    • ​@@anotherbrickinthewall1169 For what it is, Israel is a thousand times preferable to what Hamas is and by association the Palestinians who have chosen it to represent them and against which not a single prominent one of them dares to speak. That compared to the Russian Mordor against which are ALL decent Russians - same who this grinning and senile Grampa is happy to throw under the bus together with the Ukrainians. Utterly revolting!

      @nikolaikrustev1159@nikolaikrustev11594 ай бұрын
  • 'Putin didn't want the war'... Yeah, he just wanted the ENTIRE Ukrainian land without any trouble.

    @consonaadversapars@consonaadversapars3 ай бұрын
  • They learn from history ,like Hamburg,Dresden...

    @jandlouhy6914@jandlouhy69144 ай бұрын
  • Meirsheimer is the Neville Chamberlain of our time.

    @bartsimpson955@bartsimpson9554 ай бұрын
    • LOL! More "Everyone I dont like is Hitler" a tale as old as time

      @codyvandal2860@codyvandal28604 ай бұрын
    • Ofc. And Neville wasn't dumb appeaser, he knew what Hitler was about to do. He was mean just as John is.

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • People will believe what they want to believe, doesn't matter if you're a political scientist or a fishmonger. Mr. Mearsheimer has a "special" vision of Putin, that blatantly ignores all the conflicts Putin caused/supported in the past 20 years.

    @nunoportmore@nunoportmore4 ай бұрын
    • Well said!!

      @Tubeinnit@Tubeinnit3 ай бұрын
  • John is accurate & true. At last some sanity in the western discourse.

    @Jay...777@Jay...7774 ай бұрын
    • Isn't this the same guy who warned Ukraine against getting rid of its nuclear weapons 30 years ago? Because, as he said, it would be then only a matter of time till Russia invades them and tries to claim their territory?

      @Thanatos1982a@Thanatos1982a4 ай бұрын
    • @@Thanatos1982a Don't know. The nukes were never Ukraine's & the US was keen to not have nukes scattered around. Lot of decommissioning going on.

      @Jay...777@Jay...7774 ай бұрын
    • @@Jay...777 Just checked. Yes, that's him. Precisely predicted Russian invasion 30 years ago.

      @Thanatos1982a@Thanatos1982a4 ай бұрын
    • @@Jay...777 He whines about war crimes by Israel on Gazans (which btw is correct), but doesn't give a flying f about the horrors inflicted on the Ukrainians by the Russians and parrots Russian propaganda. Despicable hypocrite

      @captainhaddock6435@captainhaddock64354 ай бұрын
    • @@Thanatos1982a Yes. Though the irony is later Mearsheimer claimed Putin would not attack Ukraine. Seems like his thinking suffered with time.

      @pplr1@pplr14 ай бұрын
  • This feller must have graduated from the Clown College of Journalism.

    @jeremyperala839@jeremyperala8394 ай бұрын
  • This professor is brilliant. His knowledge amd communication are crystal clear and deep.

    @sukhmanicambridge@sukhmanicambridge4 ай бұрын
    • He declared russia is a warrior bear that will go to war, now he changed his mind😂😂😂

      @global.citizens@global.citizens4 ай бұрын
    • He’s a very good propagandist working for Putin 😂

      @audreyrose825@audreyrose8254 ай бұрын
    • Meirheimer has been WRONG about everything since 2014 lol

      @dro355@dro3554 ай бұрын
    • Mearsheimer is a charlatan, he pretends to be an expert of russian way of thinking, while he does not even understand or read russian... clown!

      @rh7018@rh70184 ай бұрын
    • He is wrong in everything he said since 2021.

      @panpanpanpan4631@panpanpanpan46314 ай бұрын
  • In summary listen to J.M. at the end of the you will find he is on the right side of History on both Ukraine and Israel.

    @yttean98@yttean984 ай бұрын
    • He is a fool and nothing more

      @thetaomega7816@thetaomega78164 ай бұрын
    • Totally incorrect. Why he didn't cry for Syrians when Putin was bomarding?

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • He did say stop at georgia. He was being nice I hope he gets a chance to speak at the un clearly i was listening. I remember... he said stop... Decades ago just wants a trade route to the water ways ...

    @user-hx4ok5xk1j@user-hx4ok5xk1j4 ай бұрын
    • Funny how there is on Volga, Russia a NATO base and 0 in Ukraine. Funny how JM didn't cry when his wharphobe hippie pal Putin was genociding Syrians.

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • The Mearsheimer marshmellow steam rollers over everybody.

    @colinbeck1285@colinbeck12854 күн бұрын
  • John did well not to ridicule the weighted questions.

    @albacan@albacan4 ай бұрын
    • Questions weighted by the sullen rage and frustration of having been caught violating the 11th commandment...

      @sreenivasansubramanian2256@sreenivasansubramanian22564 ай бұрын
  • Mearshimer misses the point Ukraine gets to decide what it wants not Putin or any other Ruzzian leader.

    @HectorGonzalez-fz6ws@HectorGonzalez-fz6ws4 ай бұрын
    • Does that apply to countries the West-US/UK bomb to hell? I’m just curious. I mean…do we really need to list the countries we’ve interfered in? Or is it just “our wars are good, theirs are bad?” Do you know what the Monroe Doctrine is?

      @fabsadami@fabsadami4 ай бұрын
    • It is you who is missing the point.

      @jaroslavzaruba2765@jaroslavzaruba27654 ай бұрын
    • He's missing all the points.

      @consonaadversapars@consonaadversapars3 ай бұрын
  • True. Just like north Vietnam could never endure the US military

    @barrybarry5305@barrybarry53054 ай бұрын
  • Much better to be allowed to take what you want than have to fight a war for it.

    @beehead5661@beehead56614 ай бұрын
  • At least the presenter could have wished in his closing for the wars to end.

    @kounnides@kounnides4 ай бұрын
    • Because he had serious things to say. Not making childish wishes.

      @RunPJs@RunPJs4 ай бұрын
    • @@RunPJs 😂😂 And why he didn't mention that NATO basis is already in Russia, on Volga? Why didn't he mentioned Putin himself told he was fine with Ukraine joining NATO in 2000s? Why didn't he mentioned where is Kalinigrad already? Why didn't he mentioned wht genocide Putin did to Syrians? Why didn't he mentioned what Putin is doing in Moldova and Georgia? Why didn't he explained what exactly Russian were doing in Kyiv, wgat testing what severity of radiation disease one can get? O, and he can yell as much as he wants, but he is amoral. And whole world sees it. This is why nobody will take him seriously or anything other then foreign agent.

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
    • @@RunPJs The presenter clearly didn't have shit to say, guy was embarrassing and I think so much less of whatever the hell this youtube channel is because of it. Trying to make Mearsheimer label people who call him antisemitic as "hysterical", he could have made it less obvious at least? Good thing he didn't fall for such 8th grader debate level bait.

      @WTF2BlueTiger@WTF2BlueTiger4 ай бұрын
  • Meirsheimer’s lies prove he is irrelevant.

    @bartsimpson955@bartsimpson9554 ай бұрын
    • Lies? Name them..

      @oliveryt7168@oliveryt71684 ай бұрын
  • War crime vs genocide? Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki?

    @graememoir3545@graememoir35454 ай бұрын
    • Both are genocide in my world.

      @kg6itc@kg6itc4 ай бұрын
    • All or nothing and post-hoc thinking, the enemies of history.

      @sean5768@sean57684 ай бұрын
    • And the US is also responsible for Gaza

      @galahadthreepwood@galahadthreepwood4 ай бұрын
    • @@galahadthreepwood Yes Hamas and Likud have no role whatsoever. Brilliant analysis.

      @sean5768@sean57684 ай бұрын
    • @@galahadthreepwood Confirmed.

      @kg6itc@kg6itc4 ай бұрын
  • "If Ukraine hadn't selfishly tried to make independent decisions as a sovereign nation, this war would never have started!"

    @doesntmatter123@doesntmatter1234 ай бұрын
    • What was independent or sovereign in the overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government in 2014, and subsequent mass murder of people who did not agree with that?

      @tezzy5584@tezzy55844 ай бұрын
    • You mean the Ukrainians didn't want to have a president installed by the Kremlin, and they fought back until their "president" escaped to Moscow?@@tezzy5584

      @doesntmatter123@doesntmatter1234 ай бұрын
    • exactly, as though the Ukrainians had to stay forever under the Russian yoke just because the West are cowards.

      @romanahowe67@romanahowe674 ай бұрын
    • Exactly! He's saying to the Ukrainians 'You live next to a great power, suck it up, bend to their will. No need to be sentimental about it and worry about right and wrong.' It was a surprise to me to see his position on the Israel-Gaza issue where he is rooting for the "underdog". Very contradictory

      @irinooka@irinooka4 ай бұрын
    • ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@tezzy5584mass murder of people? You mean elimination of enemy soldiers?

      @sunnex474@sunnex4744 ай бұрын
  • The gentleman said that Putin would not be stupid enough to invade Ukraine. He still believes that Russia did not want to take Kiev. 😑

    @yeshua64@yeshua644 ай бұрын
    • So, the lecture from 2015 seen by 29.million where he predicts a total destruction of Ukraine by Russia was wrong.

      @Thorsted67@Thorsted674 ай бұрын
    • The Russians probably hoped that the moving of forces in Ukraine would stun the leadership into submission but otherwise he's correct. The Americans invaded a bombed out Iraq with half a million men. No military strategist would think you would take a city as large as Kiev with about 30k troops.

      @jenkz16@jenkz164 ай бұрын
    • He underestimated Biden administration dumbness with NATO expansion. It's not his fault. It's really difficult to meet such level of stupidity even in DC. He is completely right about Kiev and he logically explained his position.

      @joshuapaul2022@joshuapaul20224 ай бұрын
    • ​@joshuapaul2022 a number of academics have been caught taking money from Moscow lately One was caught in Germany two weeks ago wouldn't be surprised if this guy was in the same category..

      @mikedon5205@mikedon52054 ай бұрын
    • @@joshuapaul2022 The first time your comment isn’t cut and paste Russian propaganda nonsense. Why do you support the fascist child murderer Putin?

      @jamesmorrow1646@jamesmorrow16464 ай бұрын
  • Truth hurts

    @rupatiwari5923@rupatiwari59234 ай бұрын
  • This guy’s word games are quite transparent.

    @Coopersdad726@Coopersdad7264 ай бұрын
    • How are they transparent?

      @jamesmather7896@jamesmather78964 ай бұрын
    • @@jamesmather7896 If you had any sense in reading between the lines you can tell that he's just garbage at what he does. An obvious example is asking if mearsheimer would label his proponents as "hysterical", which would be such obvious clickbait which only an idiot would fall for (because if you could quote the great John Mearsheimer as calling people who label him as antisemitic as hysterical that would've been great at discrediting him). Another is the one many others caught up on, John Mearsheimer was literally discussing Israeli warcrimes, indiscrimininate targeting of civilians, forceful starvation and eviction of locals, and he goes "but what do you expect them to do?" Completely trying to move the goalpost and shift the discussion in a very uncharismatic way because he realized it was a dud.

      @WTF2BlueTiger@WTF2BlueTiger4 ай бұрын
    • surprise two years into this war they still giving him air time for his bullshit. lol

      @laujack24@laujack243 ай бұрын
  • I found Mearshiemer in March 22, the only voice of reason and sense who could explain the invasion of Ukraine. He is utterly convincing in a world of propaganda, useless misguided politicians and a bias mainstream press. One of the very few geopolitical intellectuals to have worked out the truth and brave enough to speak out. Thank you John.

    @DuncanMonteith-yv8gx@DuncanMonteith-yv8gx4 ай бұрын
    • hear! hear!

      @hansu7474@hansu74744 ай бұрын
    • I love him too. Fortunately, there are several such people - Douglas Macgregor, Daniele Ganser, Jacques Baud, Max Blumenthal, Jeffrey Sachs, Scott Ritter, Larry Johnson, etc.

      @lanija19@lanija194 ай бұрын
    • Lol, more than half of the people you're citing have been literally proven falsen since 2022. And even one is a pedo... That tells a lot about where your human values and grasp of reality ​@@lanija19

      @doofyler@doofyler4 ай бұрын
    • If ukraine had listened to people like Mearshiemer in march 2022, they would have lost way more territories than they had today...

      @doofyler@doofyler4 ай бұрын
    • ​@doofyler, firstly, the conflict is still going on. Secondly, Ukraine certainly wouldn't have lost land, infrastructure, economy and lives. Thirdly, there is no evidence that Russia would have started conflict if it wasn't for Western weapons, radicalism, and coups.

      @marcomongke3116@marcomongke31164 ай бұрын
  • No we need to help Ukraine and keep going; its a war against sin here guys we fight for truth and not anything else; keep fighting and we fight at a low price right now; keep fighting and rely on Jesus amen

    @Grace17893@Grace178934 ай бұрын
  • “Putin didn’t want the war.” Up is down.

    @williamrappaport9203@williamrappaport92034 ай бұрын
    • Up is down in western propaganda. In 1962 USA almost started nuclear war because of cuba placed USSR missiles on it's territory. Did USA wanted nuclear war then?

      @Habik87_29@Habik87_294 ай бұрын
  • This is a crazy man!!😊😊

    @petterye2714@petterye27144 ай бұрын
    • he isn't a brain washed man, he is a clear head smart guy telling truth since day one of this awful war

      @BA-od9km@BA-od9km4 ай бұрын
    • @@BA-od9km He is liar. Putin did what in Moldova, Georgia? And whaty Syrian lives didn' matter?? And there is not just already miles and miles of border with NATO, in Russia not Ukraine on Volga is NATO base. Putin only wants expand. This liar knows it very well.

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
    • Nah. He is just amoral and liar

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • Meirsheimer would have been bossom buddies with Neville Chamberlain.

    @bartsimpson955@bartsimpson9554 ай бұрын
    • Yea, what a load of nonsense he's spewing.

      @consonaadversapars@consonaadversapars3 ай бұрын
  • Mearsheimer is a brilliant mind, with highly developed knowledge of history and huge experience in world affairs. Interviewers with simplistic viewpoints can try everything to disparage or cast doubts. It would be better to listen to him and learn.

    @michaelremenyi9014@michaelremenyi90144 ай бұрын
    • To add: Mearsheimer is a graduate of West Point. He understands war history VERY well

      @lanadellhatestheclock3325@lanadellhatestheclock33252 ай бұрын
  • Of course not, he wanted to conquer Ukraine without a fight.

    @wbiro@wbiro4 ай бұрын
    • Russia is just defending herself against NATO criminal expansionism.

      @robertoandreamadonna6025@robertoandreamadonna60254 ай бұрын
    • No, they wanted to a settlement. No one wants that dysfunctional corrupt territory. It would have fallen in 2015 but then Russia stayed as clear of it as it possibly could.

      @pavelrott311@pavelrott3114 ай бұрын
    • Exactly ​@@pavelrott311

      @sukhmanicambridge@sukhmanicambridge4 ай бұрын
  • That's exactly what I've been saying. Russia - not just Putin - wants economic development, which means good trade relations with the West, especially Germany, and no military threats at its borders.

    @herbertvanlynden6629@herbertvanlynden66294 ай бұрын
    • Russia has many military threats at its borders. Take the trouble to look at a map for yourself. What do you see?

      @michaelyeiser1565@michaelyeiser15654 ай бұрын
    • Ukraine never threatened Russia in any way. Quite the opposite - it was Russia that invaded and annexed Crimea and started and fed "civil war at Donbas" with its money, weapons and troops. Shouldn't it be then Ukrainians who have right to feel threatened by Russia and not the other way around?

      @Thanatos1982a@Thanatos1982a4 ай бұрын
    • @@Thanatos1982a Ukraine never threatened Russia in first years after 1991. They working together in Crimea, having Black Sea fleet together. Ukraine start threating Russia only after USA start involved into that. It's have nothing about what Russia want, Ukraine just used as weapon against Russia and USA want to turn people in Russia and Ukraine as mortal enemies.

      @user-xo1ov2bb9z@user-xo1ov2bb9z4 ай бұрын
    • The first general secretary of NATO said the purpose of NATO was to keep American in, Russia out and Germany down.

      @tufsoft1@tufsoft14 ай бұрын
    • OK komrade.

      @bramblebop1904@bramblebop19044 ай бұрын
  • John Mearsheimer - some one talking sense at last

    @jeremydalton3148@jeremydalton31484 ай бұрын
    • He predicted Putin would not attack Ukraine. How did that turn out?

      @pplr1@pplr14 ай бұрын
  • Ukraine have a manpower of 11 million men in fighting age

    @TheArdildo@TheArdildo4 ай бұрын
    • Really? Men in Fighting age are considered to be young men. At the moment they are sending old men and women to fight as their young guys perished.

      @scorpio9420@scorpio94204 ай бұрын
  • Thank God that people like Maersheimer exist, I've been listening to him for 2 years - he is absolutely right.

    @elenayoung4609@elenayoung46094 ай бұрын
    • absolutely the same here 100%

      @irazak9186@irazak91864 ай бұрын
    • 🤮🤮🤮

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
    • You mean like when he claimed Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine? Or that the Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't over missiles? If you've been listening to him for only 2 years perhaps that explains why you didn't notice how often he is either wrong or contradicts himself. Still, you have been warned now and should keep that in mind into the future.

      @pplr1@pplr14 ай бұрын
    • What utter nonsense, you obviously haven't read the US Rands Corporation government strategy of 2019, which predicts the US provocation of the war and Ukraine losing territory. But the facts are simple and clear - 85% of the world are with Putin, the US warmongering has sickened everyone - I would have thought they've just lost Afghanistan, running away grabbing at the wings of planes, perhaps learning a lesson... or no.... this requires brains. Sanctions didn't work, NATO is a sack of hay, totally useless for either attack or defence, Biden doesn't know if he is coming or going, Blinken & co are sinking in zionism, the war in Ukraine is lost, exactly like the previous 215 wars before it, $34 trillion deficit and growing.... But I understand the anger and bitterness, I would be mad if I were constantly on the losing side. @@pplr1

      @elenayoung4609@elenayoung46094 ай бұрын
  • Oh, he definitely wanted it. Why is this realist so unrealistic?

    @henryt4695@henryt46954 ай бұрын
  • Yeah, sure. Hitler albo did not want a war. He just wanted Austria, then Czechia, then Gdańsk and a higway through Poland to Prussia... So, when Poland didnt agree to these last he just had no choice, right? This is exactly the case of Putin in Ukraine - he just wanted Crimea that USSR agreed will belong to Ukraine if it gives away postsoviet nuclear weapons, then he just wanted Lugansk and Donetsk, so he attacked UKR and took additionally big parts of southern Ukraine. This guy just is not seriuos saying that Putin did not want a war!

    @j7m7f@j7m7f4 ай бұрын
  • Thank you Spectator for giving Professor Mearsheimer a chance to present an alternative viewpoint. British people are being continually prpagandised by Russophobia.

    @elvira53@elvira534 ай бұрын
    • 🤥

      @HungryGhost999@HungryGhost9994 ай бұрын
    • No one should be subjected to his delusions.

      @NightOwlinNewOrleans@NightOwlinNewOrleans4 ай бұрын
    • The British people have already been subjected to Russian propaganda. This guy is little better.

      @pplr1@pplr14 ай бұрын
  • MSM having someone who speaks the truth on foreign policy on. This will be interesting! You see how nervous the host is from the off 😂

    @jibsmokestack1@jibsmokestack14 ай бұрын
  • You're a bit mistaking. Besides Crimea Russia already recognised LNR and DNR republics in the East of Ukraine right before 24 feb. And furtermore, it did that in administrative borders of Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine, not by de facto demarcation line, referred to in Minsk agreements.

    @CbI4@CbI44 ай бұрын
    • And RU turned down the request of LNR+DNR to re-join RU back in 2015.

      @jaroslavzaruba2765@jaroslavzaruba27654 ай бұрын
  • Nobody wants a war but people get a war through various circumstances

    @georgestkhoo7339@georgestkhoo73394 ай бұрын
  • Mearsheimer holds an endowed Chair at University of Chicago, not the Hoover Institution at Stanford.

    @martinjohnson5498@martinjohnson54984 ай бұрын
  • Is he paid agent or simply fool? Shame on you!

    @kubazurek7664@kubazurek76644 ай бұрын
    • I'm wondering the same, could he really be that stupid or a paid propagandist?

      @Tubeinnit@Tubeinnit3 ай бұрын
  • "Amnesty Internation stellar reputation" - I'll do the jokes!

    @johntaylor3448@johntaylor34484 ай бұрын
  • Great interview. Thank you

    @Fernando-ox5mo@Fernando-ox5mo4 ай бұрын
  • wow - so calm and well spoken. What a voice of sanity ❤

    @RostockIndustrial@RostockIndustrial4 ай бұрын
    • ♥What nonsense. You must be from St Petersburg. LOL ♥

      @vulture7918@vulture79184 ай бұрын
    • This is so typical, the way things are said is for a lot of people more important than the actual content.

      @matsfrommusic@matsfrommusic4 ай бұрын
    • Hilarious.

      @NightOwlinNewOrleans@NightOwlinNewOrleans4 ай бұрын
  • North Korea has nothing to lose. But USA has every thing to lose.

    @arnabtalukder5895@arnabtalukder58954 ай бұрын
    • I think you'll find the North Koreans don't consider the existence of North Korea to be 'nothing'

      @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304@proselytizingorthodoxpente83044 ай бұрын
  • 13:53 mearsheimer asks and answers his own doubts

    @henryterranauta9100@henryterranauta91004 ай бұрын
  • This specialist doesn't understand that Putin believed that eastern Ukraine would welcome the Russian army. That is why he thought that a small army would be enough. Comparison with Poland in 1939 is not relevant here.

    @georgiinazarenko5490@georgiinazarenko54904 ай бұрын
  • Putin wanted to take Ukraine like he took Crimea. He didn’t want to use his army. But saying he didn’t want a war is saying the thief didn’t want to fight the police. Stop with these lies.

    @Dreamvention@Dreamvention4 ай бұрын
    • He didn't want Ukraine. He wanted Crimea. Ukraine wouldn't let go of Crimea. The West didn't recognize Crimea as a part of Russia either. Mr. P had only one instrument in his arsenal and it was a hammer. It didn't work. But the only thing that he wanted was Crimea. And no NATO.

      @vitaminc6721@vitaminc67214 ай бұрын
    • to get that, it’s enough to read the peace agreement they signed in March 2022

      @vitaminc6721@vitaminc67214 ай бұрын
    • YT hid the first commnt, so the second one makes no sense.

      @vitaminc6721@vitaminc67214 ай бұрын
  • Freddy should be educated by the brilliant prof Mersheimer but not holding my breath.

    @fnaust@fnaust4 ай бұрын
    • Is that you Vladdy?? 🤖 🤣🤣🤣

      @Tubeinnit@Tubeinnit3 ай бұрын
  • Mearshimer is a guy that you want in your inner circle he is a realist and that’s what we need more of in leadership

    @nosfedss@nosfedss4 ай бұрын
  • Is it thet simple? War because of allegations that Ukraine would ever join NATO? The joining would have met a lot of resistance by many countries before the war. I think this isn't a viable and logical reason for this war.

    @thePrahoable@thePrahoable3 ай бұрын
    • At that time, there were already US and British military bases on the territory of Ukraine and new ones were being built. Military exercises of NATO countries with the participation of B 52 (nuclear weapon carrier) took place on the territory of Ukraine. Ukrainian officials have repeatedly threatened to use the so-called dirty bomb on Russian territory. Zelensky himself announced plans to create nuclear weapons at a security conference in Munich, and representatives of the countries that signed the agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons applauded Zelensky's statement. But this is one of the reasons. Ukraine refused to fulfill its peace obligations and continued to terrorize and kill ethnic Russians...

      @Tonik-13@Tonik-133 ай бұрын
    • @@Tonik-13 Oh hi, are you writing your nonsense here too? "Ukrainian officials have repeatedly threatened to use the so-called dirty bomb" this literally never happened. "elensky himself announced plans to create nuclear weapons" this literally never happened. "Ukraine refused to fulfill its peace obligations and continued to terrorize and kill ethnic Russians..." and this literally never happened either.

      @user-wm5rt9pw5l@user-wm5rt9pw5l3 ай бұрын
  • 👌Professor Mearsheimer.

    @amania9254@amania92544 ай бұрын
    • A sad despicable liar and prorussian imperialist.

      @cadicamo8720@cadicamo87204 ай бұрын
  • "You're quite right, I misquoted you" ? How does that even happen?

    @RK-fr4qf@RK-fr4qf4 ай бұрын
    • The reporter mistook the words of someone else as his.

      @Kraterlandschaft@Kraterlandschaft4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I thought that. I suspect there is a little bit of journalistic underhandedness going on there. Trying maybe to get Mr Mearsheimer to admit through a slight of hand comment that the Israeli government are committing "genocide". He didn't fall for it thankfully.

      @rhysellis928@rhysellis9284 ай бұрын
  • I thought there were reports there could be 100k Russian KIA..

    @kjuled@kjuled4 ай бұрын
  • Really enjoying this jazzy tune to get me in the mood for the #QueersForPalestine and Ukraine wars discussion😂🤣

    @JoeMisseri@JoeMisseri4 ай бұрын
  • Danke schön Mr. J. Mearsheimer.Free Palestine.

    @abdulghani8269@abdulghani82694 ай бұрын
  • In many circumstances, some of, would say many, developed or some very big countries, especially those in the name of democracy and human rights, have done many bad things or don't do things as a very good example for others. A concrete example of this is the promotion of arms trade or defence industrial complex. Whenever the world is still overwhelmed too much with deadly weapons, the world will continue to face security threats, conflicts, war, etc. Establishing and expanding military allies/alliances is also a real threat to the world's peace and stability. NATO for example is dangerous. For other countries in other regions, they don't have such a kind of military establishment becoz they do know it doesn't bring any benefits for ALL, it only benefits for just only some big-headed, selfish people. Some of these people make money soaked with blood. Please stop making too many deadly weapons to kill people. Is this really for the sake of your own feeedom, democracy and human rights? I don't think so. War histories in the old days have taught us enough. Perhaps some of the developed should learn how to live together with some of the poor in order to help save the world's peace and the environment of this green planet. If we make too many deadly weapons, too many wars, not only people, but also our beautiful Earth will be destroyed bit by bit. Please don't do stupid things and please don't be selfish.

    @user-eh7qb7mk3p@user-eh7qb7mk3p4 ай бұрын
    • Now, Russia have a NATO base and Ukraine doesn't. This liar knows it well. He also know that Latvia and Estonia are in NATO and that easiest was ti attack would be East Russia. But nobody in NATO ever wanted attack Russia. Now, he so brilliantly explained wjat Russians were doing in Kyiv, after he was deliberetly lying back that that Russia wouldn't attack (like it didn't Syria worse then Israel Gaza, for instance, or they are in Moldova and Georgia in waraphobic peace and hippie missions), they just wanted to taste contaminated woods ti find the cure for terminal radiation disease? Pathetic, amoral. O, and Israel is powerful I agrer hence can destroy Gaza in a day. And the West Bank and Hezbollah. Now if it is on genocidal mission (insult to any genocide survuvor as calling Israel apartheid too, where an Arab judge packed Israel president to jail, or for any WW2 partisan call the terrorist group like Hamas resistence movement) why then just isn't doing it and actually the population every year is growing?

      @josipag2185@josipag21854 ай бұрын
  • The interviewer has State department Kool-Aid stains all over his shirt front😅

    @monkmonk40@monkmonk404 ай бұрын
  • I am interesting in “Why the Leaders do not know” the real Truth about “Killers from Blood” ?

    @belomolnar2128@belomolnar21284 ай бұрын
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