Can mobs moving randomly beat Minecraft all by themselves? Can Minecraft beat itself without a player or is it totally impossible... Today we find out what the probability of Minecraft beating itself is, and even finding a seed where you can watch it happen yourself?
INSPIRED HUGEELY BY @RetroGamingNow
BIG DISCLAIMER: I just learned AFTER making the whole video that endermen can't actually pick up snow lol. They COULD still make golems by placing a pumpkin next to two naturally generating snow blocks but that makes the end island situation almost impossible if there's a gap
Idk how on earth I made it through the whole video process never realizing they actually couldn't carry snow...
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WIFIES FAKE NEWS ALERT‼️‼️‼️‼️ I have absolutely no clue how I made this up/missed this when I made the video but it turns out endermen can't pick up snow lol. The run IS still possible because they can put a pumpkin next to naturally generating snow and make a golem, BUTTT it makes it way more difficult in a gap situation on the end island. Lowkey this might make it even MORE likely but who knows We can say that the probability goes from ~0% to ~0%
Oof
I was actually about to say this
Lol
Didn’t pippenfts Just make this exact same video yesterday 🤔
@@slowburnsloth1689 videos take more than 1 day to make.
Considering that minecraft speedrunning timer only starts if a player moves, this can theoretically break the set seed category
How plausible it is to select a seed where the mobs will do a majority of the things you need and you just need to wait 50 hours when play for five minutes?
@@dandanthedandan7558 that would just be luck but if you choose a seed that works you could just not move and the timer would never start
The mobs would move the player.
@@SocialMediaFBIAgent I think the timer only starts when the player makes an action, not when the player literally moves
It depends on what timer you're running.@@dandanthedandan7558
This took "The odds are low, but never 0" to a whole new level.
I think the problem with this is that the player would die of being head butted by a goat and no regen.
@@chaos60I was thinking that too.
Technically mathematics has a way to talk about these sorts of things - a positive probability of 0. It's too unlikely to occur, even given infinite time (you'd need a higher order of infinity). This is because in a 3d space, the probability to be at a specific point at a specific iteration (placing a block is the specific iteration, the location is the specific point) is positive 0, which this plan relies on a multitude of times.
I guess its still 0 as Minecraft rng isn't truly random
@@ynybody1382 of course, this assumes the space working in is infinitely precise
That ending was beautiful
Nice
👍👍👍
thats true
Literally bought a tear to my eye
Nice
This is a very interesting extension: I like how you accounted for the player needing to load the chunks. Nice video!
What? only 1 like? 1st btw lol
i cant believe you have so few likes on both pippenfts and this video lmao
@@AsiccAPhe has more like on pipen vid than here
The Man the Myth the Legend is here!
I still remember you when I got minecraft
So this is basically the whole "infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters will eventually produce Shakespeare" thing, just in Minecraft hahaha
exactly lol
Yeah that’s exactly what I thought too! 😂 Honestly, (I know it would be impossible to do realistically) it would be so crazy to actually see this happen. Like a million separate instances of minecraft running at 100,000x speed until something happens? Edit: just watched until 12:02 lol
@@Wifiesbruh Pippens just made a video like this before u, not saying u copied but one hell of a coincidence
RetroGamingNow used this exact comparison in his video.
@@viddog6457 Lol what? Is this something that was planned or a coincidence?
4:57… why does my man start spitting bars here? He’s like almost perfectly timed with the music, lol.
lmaooooo you're so right that ate
Goes hard XD
I think this would be a fun challenge to do with friends, each person taking a “mob” role and everyone trying to beat minecraft together with the rules for each mob (so randomness can be taken out, but you could get the feel of it$
I thought about this too with someone makes a mod like this
The "Monster Mash" challenge?
@@SobiTheRobot what's that or do u mean like a name for the thing?
If its possible to do so I hope someone makes a TAS of this concept. Even if the odds are basically impossible, if a TAS is able to actively manipulate the rng (honestly I do not know enough about minecraft TASes, so idk if they can alter the rng with mods or if they just brute force with savestates or something), they could make essentially a proof of concept of this actually happening
You have no clue what you are talking about lol
tas are almost impossible to do on Minecraft so I'm not sure
i want someone’s passion to do 20 aj people civilization in minecraft for like 100 days then 200 days it would be cool
ai not aj lol
no they're not? there's plenty of tas mincraft speedruns on yt.
To be fair, the amount of rng required to pull this off, we should ask Dream to help.
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Im dead 😂
how we get in contact with him?
~ 1 in 7.5 trillion
Gets it first try
1:03 The Vsauce music coming in here was the icing on the cake.
1:09 mf pulled a vsauce
@@Dim_studiosor did he
@@kelvinyeo9165*vsauce music dtarts to play*
Wifies is starting to become the vsauce of Minecraft Edit: Okay y'all can stop commenting that he has been for several years, I already know
lol, that’s so true XD
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Hey, Vsauce!
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Hey Michael, Vsauce here!
The fact that you gave RetroGamingNow credit and still made a super intresting video with your own twist is amazing
He literally made the exact same vid but worse
@@SariaMelodyYou’re profile picture is so cute 😮
@@SariaMelodysame here, and its most likely coincidental but another creator by the name of pippenFTS made a video on the same thing 2 days before this one, so its interesting
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0:53 give enderman reward for the sussiest boy alive
0:37 most unsatisying moment, that the vSauce music got cut off
That ending was beautiful, just imagine if all videos had a nice ending like that, the internet would become a much greater place. I hope you continue doing that for all your upcoming videos, peace.
yeah, the internet would then be filled with lies cause a player needs to load the end chunks
@@daanman-js6joyou didn’t even watch the entire video explaining how goats push players towards the portal. This is why you watch the complete video before commenting.
@@minglangdu4014there is already a video on that idk if wifi stole it. It name is we don't need you to play Minecraft
@@atomega2243 yes, he talked about retrogamingnow’s video but he didn’t steal the ideas but added on to it
@@minglangdu4014 ok thanks I didn't watch the video cause I didn't want to give view to if he didn't put credit but thanks to you I will watch it
Wifies is that kind of guy who will find a way to make u question life for a sec and give a life quote afterwards XD
the thing is there simply are impossible things, one of the coolest examples is that It is impossible to determine simultaneously both the precise position and the exact momentum of a particle. doesnt matter how hard you try doesnt matter what you do its simply impossible, and many other things are impossible this is just in my opinion an incredably intresting one. or even a simpler thing its impossible to do something impossible, think about the logic matches up and there are many other examples these are just a logical and a physical example but obviously many more exist.
He’s a genius ! 😅
The thing I like the most is the fact that the premise of this team defeating the dragon is that they want to kill each other and couldn't care less about the dragon itself
Classic Wifies, answering questions we had no idea to ask but really want an answer to.
10 outta 10 video, specially liked the wholesome end to it, keep up the good work Wifies
Literally stolen from pippenfts, like he made a video with this EXACT premise a day ago.. and by extension, this whole concept is stole from retrogamingnow's video with this concept which pippen's video was a direct sequel to
Yeah I'm sure he released a fully edited high quality video in a day. Lol. That's stupid.
@@itsentdev retrogamingnow's video on this exact premise has been out for months, and this video is practically a 1 for 1 retelling of the content within it
no the odds are 0, a player needs to load the end chunks so the video is just a lie
@@SmellinMelon HE SAID THAT IN THE VIDEO
PippenFTS Just did this as well... Crazy coincidence. I was part of the team that first theorised this with RetroGamingNow (Credited in his video). Crazy that others are now making videos on the idea!
bro pippen and wifies vid is just the same
Thinking about it, it's not too far fetched to say that somewhere out there in the vast array of multiverses, some player accidentally left the game afk and this event took place and this video has documented that event. That means this video (and Retrogaming Now's) are our only window to that world in the infinite potentialities that could take place.
Just imagine starting a world, and every monster just starts beating the game for you
The chance of this happening can be a tad bit more probable (albeit “impossible”) if you take thunderstorms into account. All the enderman needs is a TNT and wait for lightning to strike.. as opposed to the phenomenal chance of making snow golems each time and for a skeleton with a flame bow missing their targets, just to reach the stronghold.
no there is no chance of this because a player has to load the end chunks
@@daanman-js6jo did you not watch the video he explains how that would work
@@tyrnanreply958 i did and the explantion still means it requires a player and the mobs cant beat minecraft on their own
@@daanman-js6joobviously you need a player to generate the world no shit sherlock
@@daanman-js6jo you completely ignored the explanation, stop going around saying the same shit when it was already addressed in the video.
Wifies is like the mastermind villain explaining his plan
an incorrect plan because a player needs to load the end chunks but he overlooked that simple fact
@@daanman-js6jo 5:28
@@daanman-js6joyou overlooked the simple fact that the video doesn’t end at 5:27
you missed an INSANELY important detail. the goat might kill the player with ramming before getting to the portal, the only way to stop this is if a witch gets hit by a skeleton or something and heals themself with a healing potion, which splashes on the player, happening enough times to get the player to the stronghold
Pretty sure witches don't use splash potions of healing.
they definitely do@@D00dl3bug75 but only when theyre low
The Player would need to spawn EXTREMELY CLOSE to where the stronghold is, and also the mobs would have to destroy the the stronghold so much that the end portal is visible. The stronghold would also have to spawn under a snow biome, where goats spawn, and also snow golems can be created and transported much more easily.
It seems more probable that instead of digging to a stronghold, it might be open exposed in a large ravine that endermen may teleport to or walk to in rain or something
If I had a nickel for every time a video about MC mobs beating MC came out this week, I'd have two. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice in a week, hell even in just the last 48 hours.
PippenFTS?
@@hat_cbw6972 yeah, watched it right before this video lol
@@hat_cbw6972 RetroGamingNow also made a similar video a little over a year ago.
“It’s inspired by RetroGamingNow” These are just straight up copies from that video bruh
@@noahlovesdoggosofficial Pippen FTS explores the concept deeper and credits retro, I don't see anything wrong with that.
lol glad to see that the "Minecraft doesn't need you" idea has been resurfacing again, I saw another video exploring this concept a few days ago though I particularly like this one's idea of moving the player around to load chunks, instead of just pretending everything's loaded all the time
Did not expect the end to be so heartwarming. Thank you Wifies, good video :)
Your creativity is insane! I would’ve never thought of this before! I can’t wait for your next video!
A lot of people make a video on this topic recently. I first heard about this form RetroGamingNow back when they made a video about it. Today I saw a video covering the same topic uploaded a few days ago and now you also made a video about it.
Now I wanna see a DND campaign with 1 of each mob. Snow golem would bug the creeper, skeleton would wanna kill the snow golem (but always fails) and the enderman is just there carrying the whole team
Love the wholesome message tied to this. Awesome vid, I can tell that a lot of thinking and planning went into this 💯
8:29 that skeleton gonna kill that player everytime instead of blowing up that tnt
what a coincidence, you uploaded a video heavily inspired by "Minecraft doesn't need you" a day after PippinFTS uploaded a video heavily inspired by "Minecraft doesn't need you"
"heavily inspired" yeah its almost the same vid
Kinda funny how a big chunk of this video is about Endermen picking up snow while they cannot do that at all lol
It would be cool if someone made a mod where players could controll all the mobs within the limit of their pathfinding and ai so you could simulate the perfect rng
I love your editing and jokes, as soon as I heard Vsauce's theme playing I laughed and put a like, great video 👍
RGN -> Pippen -> Wifies Who's next
I wonder 🤔
This is the third video with this concept. The first one was "Minecraft doesn't need you" (kzhead.info/sun/lNFylN5lipOlZp8/bejne.html) by RetroGamingNow The second one was "It turns out, minecraft can beat itself" (kzhead.info/sun/dtKblNKFh4V-h40/bejne.html) by PippenFTS. And this is the third one. Also there was a little mistake at the start of the video: arrows cannot hit the dragon when it's perching. They get deflected.
well the whole video is wrong because a player has to load the end chunks
@@daanman-js6jorewatch the video over and over until you understand that this problem was already addressed.
@@freerobux49 Agree.
@@daanman-js6jo He addressed that problem in the video and as a way to solve it used a second account that would get pushed by goats into the end portal. And in case you were talking about the other 2 videos i linked, in there the chunk problem was not taken into account. +there are already chunk loader mods out there, hack their settings to load the whole world, and place 1 in each dimension.
10:30 Who didnt skip math? 👇
This was a good video. I'm excited to see what my subscription will add to the castle/mansion structure
12:40 "You exist, don't you?" is a whole 'nother question.
I’m existing?
PiepnFTS made a similar video recently on this topic too and I feel this concept is more explored in his video, either way this video was awesome and props to your work.
RetroGamingNow made a video on it months ago
not similar its legit the same vid
Pipen's video was basically a follow up to Retro's video but he also mentioned various other interesting stuff that could happen too.
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 thats what im saying
@@silverwheel3 yeah i mean the wifies vid is legit just pippens vid
Just subscribed! Can't wait to see the mansion!
Amazing video absolutely loved it, one thing, I believe I remember hearing that every Minecraft world can only exist for so long, and eventually it will corrupt or something like that, so I'm not sure if it would actually be possible given the amount of time a Minecraft world has. Despite this it is still a very fun concept, the odds are low but never 0.
Loving the content recently Wifies. This video kind of brought back that old V-Sauce style of probability and rng back from your older videos. Keep it up, always great to see a wifies post
Wifies son: Trying to beat Minecraft with just mobs Wifies grandson: Still trying to beat Minecraft with just mobs
WOW this is really interesting, also i just stumbled upon your chnanel and i absolutely love it!
3:01 endermen can’t pick up snow, what can happen is that the place a carved pumpkin in a ice spikes biome where the snow blocks are 2 high
7:18 you could just bank on a convenient end portal, since you already have to bank on the 12 eye portal and like a billion other random things, which is way less likely. the tiny bit of added low probability from this doesn't affect much.
The problems in the run would all be solved naturally since the odds of this happening are so astrnomically low that the truth is you wouldnt even need problem solving just pray the dragon just doesnt spawn somehow
that dosent matter cause a player needs to load the end chunks
@@daanman-js6jo**did you watch the video**
@@theheadbandguy8921 yes
@@idiot528 dragon cannot not spawn. code exists in the game for that to happen............
Another way you can get past the platform in the end is using the creeper or tnt to launch the mobs to the island :D
or the goat
that does not matter because a player has to load the end chunks
That’s what I was thinking lol
Best Video I've seen in a while and the fact that ITS POSSIBLE that mobs can beat minecraft completely on their own is fascinating.
Coolest video yet I love them so much!!!🎉 Wifies definitely does not make these videos easily. Thanks!
Even Dream doesn't have enough luck to make it happen
no the odds are 0, a player needs to load the end chunks
@@daanman-js6jo did you watch the entire video? theres a part where the player can be headbutted by goats *into the end portal* 5:25 so loading chunks is not a problem, even in the end gap situation, goats can just yeet the player to the otherside (with correctly generated seeds). Plus, the whole Minecraft world needs to load by a player, so don't say that a player being *AFK* still breaks the rules. Also, I've seen you like in every comment, so if you so please, delete the stupid misinformation, or get ranted.
@@pandatotoroblox8848 i did and the explantion still means it requires a player and the mobs cant beat minecraft on their own
@@daanman-js6joIt's possible though that's the thing you're not getting... Now is it probable? God no but it is possible
@@daanman-js6joobviously you need a player to generate the world no shit sherlock
Wifies you're forgetting a crucial part of the ending conclusion, you said that on every seed it will EVENTUALLY happen, and that would be true. But, not every seed, has a 12 eye portal, which makes it so that only seeds that have a 12 eye would be beaten at SOME point in time.
There's a text disclaimer at the end noting that, so they did realize it, just after the script was set in stone
Any Projectile that is not from the Player wont be able to damage the Ender Dragon. Snow that is 2 Blocks high is also not possible anymore which makes natural Snow Golems impossible The 12 Eyed Ender Portal Seeds also are not possible to generate with a Random Seed.
Love this video. Great work m8
even if we slow time by 100 times and start fromthe beginning of the universe to the end, we would not be able to defeat the game. its mathematically possible but not physically.
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At 7:05 if you shake your screen the obsidian platform will be strange.
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Greatest ending I’ve ever seen! Love it keep up the good work!😃
Absolutely fire Wifies.🔥🔥 Subbed to you btw🗿
5:40 how does the player not die
I would like to see a timelapse of an area in minecraft to just see what mobs can do to the world, maybe like a village or something
flary?
The ending was unexpectedly wholesome, great video
This, and RetroGamingNow's video "Minecraft doesn't need you", are a great duo covering the thought experiment of Minecraft beating itself!
"A group of enderman"? Excuse me I believe you mean a HAUNTING of enderman...
Bro became Minecraft's VSauce 💀 Jokes aside, this channel is actually really good
same logic with pi, since pi is infinite, any sequence of number you can think of will be in there. So technically to find the cure to cancer you could code a computer program to put every character in the alphabet every symbol, punctuations, numbers etc in every sequence possible, and eventually it will be there. infinity is such a mysterious yet beautiful concept
Thanks for taking into account snow golems they are my favorite mob but are suuuper underrated!
You missed a few things which would make the odds of Minecraft beating itself way rarer. Endermen cannot pick up snow and therefore snow golems would need to be generated by an enderman placing a carved pumpkin on top of 2 snow blocks. The idea that the endermen can build up to the obsidian towers isn't feasible as the dragon would constantly destroy the blocks placed by the endermen.
also how do the enderman build up and create golems? they can’t pick up endstone and in the end they cant go back to grab them
@@The_WereF0X many endermen holding the required blocks would have to enter and then place them all in the correct locations
and + the dragon can’t take damage from arrows when its perching
@@The_WereF0X the snow golems would have to be created in the overworld and enter the end portal for them to help with the dragon
also i'm not exactly sure about the tnt method since the dragon could destroy it, which could make the only method of damaging the dragon by using snow golems and creeper explosions while the dragon is at the fountain the crystals would have to be destroyed with skeletons and creepers since endermen cannot build a staircase to it as PippenFTS mentioned in his video
9:44 friendly fire
Just imagine you and your friend start a server and as soon as you start the world up you both go afk and come back with the ender dragon beaten by a gang of unlikely mobs teaming up.
It is so insanely good to watch a Vsauce video about Minecraft with a handful of philosophy in the end.
This is basically "infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters can write Shakespeare" but for beating Minecraft (I knew this was probably gonna be brought up in the video at some point)
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I want this as an entirely animated series now
I actually have a webcomic series in the works with a surprisingly similar premise to this
@@azuresiren5846 fantastic, we enthusiastically await further news
You are master of the game. Just keep going. Always be with you.
Love the subtle Vsauce inspo with the question marks and esoteric universal wisdom at the end
And yet it's still more probable than me actually beating the game by myself.
Wouldn't the goat eventually kill the player by repeatedly ramming it? It deals 1-3 health points depending on the difficulty and the player wouldn't be able to gather food or eat to regen health
Wiches from raids sometimes throw buff potions at the raiders so maybe it could miss and heal the player?
@@chesscraze9329How would you start a raid. Do you have a way to make the player get kill credit on a pilligar captain?
@@linuslucke3838you don't need raid at all witches can spawn naturally
might be cheating but maybe start with peaceful difficulty so the player keeps regening then change out of peaceful once player is in the end
@@jianchristian1367the witch would kill the player though
we need these type of contents more on yt
Man wifies is so good at math! Very interesting video and a complete work of art! ❤
Now we just need to make an AI that can coordinate all randomness in minecraft and see if it can figure this out.
One starts with an original concept. Another revive it. And a third, huh... Why are you doing this? xd
the third has to make it happen
Wifies on his way to severely overestimate the amount of naturally generated carved pumpkins and TNT a world could theoretically spawn with WHILST ALSO having a shallow stronghold, in a form of snowy biome, in a world with a fully lit natural stronghold spawn, whilst also assuming the player won't die for pretty much a million years of being afk, out in the open, while being constantly rammed by goats. Probability would have like 80 billion zeros in it.
The odds may be low, but never 0
It was a great video. And I couldnot believe how rare it will be for mobs to beat the game but I have 1 problem. Goats also deal damage so you would die considering that strongholds are usually far away.
11:05 lmaoooo that sigma joke
Ikr 💀
I love how he comes up with crazy ideas and making our days better
he literally stole this idea
But he gave credit to retro gaming now, the original creator.
@@raffertymetcalfedon’t worry he shouted out retro gaming now in the description where he said the video is largely inspired by his video
@@edwarddelamare8583yes
@@edwarddelamare8583largely inspired by his idea, almost fully a copy of a similar video by @PippenFTS who credited @RetroGamingNow in his video multiple times, thats pretty low for Wifies not even metioning Retro in the video but rather putting him in the description
"Thankyou for existing" That melted my heart brother ❤ Thanks for the motivation while I've been in a streak of 4 horrible weeks ...
damn you got me at the end there. thank you for existing.
Retro gaming now did this good vid tho
6:16 what if someone subscribe and unsub repeatedly
so this is my first time watching you and somehow you made me rethink my whole life
All respekt to you my guy! Like saying who inspired the vid too! Never mind that outro was more of a W!
6:28 You already did this. Why did you do it again? You've never told us in a video that the house was already complete. Where can I fend the previous completed version?
Doesn't this require a 12 eye seed where the player spawns close enough to a mountain to load a goat? Are we sure such seeds exist?
12 eye portal is just 1 in a trillion. There are over a quintillion seeds so there are probably millions of world with completed portals. The last survival world i generated was had a spawn on jagged peaks. So yeah, there are probably such worlds
Yes there are known 12 eye seeds but iirc, the game is coded to not use one of them randomly, so you have to specifically put them in.
no because a player has to load the end chunks
@@Daniel-cw8lg But is there a 12-eye seed where you spawn next to a goat
@@daanman-js6johe didn’t watch the vid
4:10 I thought this video sounded familiar, I like RetroGamingNow, he makes everything sound all cryptic, I mean the title, “Minecraft doesn’t need you.” is pretty sweet
I wonder if the odds of mobs beating Minecraft in this manner are greater than the odds of cosmic-ray bit-flips triggering the end credits...