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my favorite moment still has to be when Po was like' I just discovered my father isn't my father.' And tigress is like: your father...the goose......must have been tough.
Sorry to be that guy but it was a actually “must of been a shock” instead of “tough”. I still love how both of those words can make this line funnier in different ways!
And we were so close to hearing Tigress's backstory until the others interrupted. All we know was that she might have been abandoned and shifu took her in
She was, in a mini series (from Netflix I think) it tells the backstories of each of the furious five and she was picked up by shifu from an orphanage
Thats rough buddy.
Aliyah E Hassan i was waiting for this reference
"Let it flow" is also the main theme during PTSD's therapy. Embrace the trauma, dont fight it. There is a lot of psychology in this film and I just noticed!
And that's such a tough thing to learn. Because it seems so easy to forget about your trauma and so painful to embrace it, yet forgetting makes it worse and embracing it is the only way to move forward
Po literally suffers from something called "Dissociative Amnesia," in which you have trauma so bad that your brain doesn't WANT to remember, locking it away, the triggers being the key. Take a look into OMORI if u want to know more about that, BTW. anyway, Po's trigger is the symbol of Shen, that fiery eye. Upon seeing that, his trauma is induced, and he sees flashes. (He has it a bit lucky, seeing as he was super little and his flashes aren't distorted or creepy as it is for most victims; it simply *is,* and that is that.
The way the soothsayer says it though....so soothing and motherly. It's like....Po's mother's spirit is talking through her and telling her son to let it go.
@@StylishWitchOMORI fan in the wild??
You forgot to add a win where in Kung fu Panda, Po asked his dad if he had any other dream apart from making noodles. His dad answered that he wanted to run away and make tofu but then later changed his mind because it was a stupid dream. Meanwhile in Kung fu Panda 2, the goose dad names his store "Dragon Warrior Noodles and Tofu" or something. Could it be because Po made his dream to be a kung fu warrior come true that made his father realize that perhaps making tofu isn't so much of a stupid dream after all?
Aw that’s actually very wholesome!
It’s a good strategy to get more customers, so I’m surprised why he didn’t do it sooner
@@velvetsparrow I think it was more because he was providing for Po, he didn't want to take any risks. Once he was on his own, he began to take a few risks and they worked out for him
@@snakevenom4954 perhaps, but if I remember correctly, the goose dad said that "when I was young and crazy, I thought about running away and learning how to make tofu." so it's also plausible that this was during a time when Po wasn't yet around and he was still being raised by his dad to take over the restaurant.
Ikr! The second I heard that mr. ping was also selling tofu just brought me genuine joy
"The only reason why you're alive is because I find your stupidity mildly amusing" Gary Oldman's way of telling that line was so awesome. It was so scary. I'd recommend you to watch that scene. And why has that scene not been included in this video? It was so awesome. Just watch it yourself and you'll realize how awesome it sounds.
My favorite villain line of any movie: “Oh it’s a parting gift, in that it will part you. Part of you here, part of you there and part of you waaay over there *sTAINING THE WALL* .”
I used that phrase a lot while I was stationed in Afghanistan. Dark humor, but still humor
@@Anurepa Wait what? XD What military branch? My dad served there for over 20 years. Army blackhawk med evac.
JustAlpha Army. Just left there about a month ago
@@Anurepa Oh wow. I didn't even know that was a thing. Well, I greatly appreciate your service! :)
@@Anurepa thank you for your service (insert salute emoji cuz none exist)
“My old enemy. Stairs.” Most accurate sentence ever.
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I love how Shen's throwing knives look like metal feathers. Nice detail.
yeah thats awsome
Agreed
I actually thought they were feathers for a while😂
The wolf guy 'standing up for what's right' is technically wrong since he was refusing to harm the other wolves. I love this because wolves are pack animals and generally do whatever they can to protect their pack.
He was protecting his pack, that is in its own way a more moral choice
@@mr.x2567 true
too bad he died instantly
Nonetheless, that nondescript wolf lieutenant ends up being a compelling character due to this one action, which is impressive writing as for a character that gets like 5 lines in the movie
Bro...you missed the win when po's hand catches on fire...and he puts it in his mouth... While he is in the middle of the ocean.
that's so true and the way the scene zooms out to show where he was got me laughing
@@daboi9589 CAUSE THAT'S HOW MY MAN PO ROLLS
Lol no that’s a sin
@@zaracoomaraswamy7179 Nope, that's a resourcefulness win
But if he didn't notice, then it probably didn't hurt, so he could have just left it there to look awesome.
The Wolf Boss wasn't simply doing what's right. He's a wolf; there's no way he'll harm his pack.
Unless one of them challenges him, of course.
"Oh ? You're approaching me ?"
@@Carpatouille god damnit.
@@Carpatouille Is that a Jojo reference?
@@Carpatouille I can't become the alpha without getting closer.
Forgot to win Tigress & Po’s friendship dynamic. Half the time, she never understands what’s going through Po’s head or how he works, but she still makes an effort to understand him & let him be his own type of person/leader. The most prevalent moment that could be an example of this is when Po tells her that he’s not actually his dad’s kid. Tigress first takes the common sense approach by pointing out that Po’s dad is a different species of animal from him, but then decides that Po still has a right to be upset & consoles him instead. It made the interaction both funny & emotional, further solidifying how good they work together despite their very stark differences. I really like they’re chemistry.
Not to mention that she pushes him away to try and protect him from a canon ball, essentially risking her own life for him.... Also hugging him and saying that she can't watch her friend be killed.
MY HEART!!! Seriously I love how Po and Tigress's relationship developed. She was so antagonistic, rightfully so, towards him, but now Po is one of the most precious people in her life. I do think she cares deeply for the other Furious Five, but it just seems like Po is that one person who is able to break her walls to the extent the other Furious cannot.
@@msk-qp6fn They have little brother, big sister vibe going on.
@@excusezmoi9823 Not really, super close friends, yes but not sibling vibes at all.
@@Maya_hee if you are close with your siblings, if you have any, you would actually agree
2:14 He forgot the fact that in the First Movie Ping said that when he was young he wanted to run away and learn to make Tofu and in the 2nd movie he gave away free TOFU desserts(with purchases of course)
RIGHT
Following your dreams win?
I’m gonna cry
I think my favorite thing about Shen was the scene where the wolf guard finally said "No." In a kid's movie, you'd expect there to be at least some sort of big payoff for someone who switches sides. Even if he didn't get a happy ending, surely Mr. Wolf's disobedience would turn the tide of the battle and give the heroes just enough power to win! But no. Shen just looks at him and fucking kills him. And then he just lights the cannon himself. No reward whatsoever. Not even a heroic sacrifice. He literally dies for nothing. And Shen doesn't even give a warning. No mercy at all whatsoever. Telling him "No" will get you killed. Think of how many Disney villains (and even DreamWorks villains) who tolerate incompetent and irritating henchmen. Even Scar put up with the three hyenas. But not Shen. He takes no shit from anyone but the goat lady.
Wish they expanded on his relationship with the goat lady must’ve been like a mentor or even a therapist hired by his parents
@Deathmare Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the filmmakers revealed a bit more of an extended back story for Shen. His parents weren't around much so he was pretty much raised by the Soothsayer. That's why he was so forgiving of her and even let her go instead of imprisoning her or killing her like he would have done with anybody else.
I'm pretty sure the wolf _did_ give the heroes some time to do more action just because of his defiance. Realistically speaking, even this sort of small moment would give a _lot_ of time for people to actually act on it. It just gets overlooked in favor of giving the heroes a convenient amount of time to defeat the villain, so putting a moment where there's problems within the villain's side, such as defiance, makes it realistic.
@@Murphy_try_Billy_Bat soothsayer is his nanny. His parents did not take care of him or basically ignored him(because he is albino peacock, and peacocks loveee colors) it's kinda sad tbh
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win counter 13 gets even cooler if you know that in old asian culture, when something broke, you repaired it with gold. flaws shouldn't be hidden, they should be shown as not the end of usage by breaking, but rather a valueble experience so it can tell a story.
Ya just like some elderlies when they lost a tooth, they would replace it with a gold tooth to show their wealth.
Yeah, although I think this is more the case in Japan than China...
Kung fu panda: facing his present Kung fu panda 2: facing his past Kung fu panda 3: facing his future
1: Body 2: Mind 3: Spirit
@@c808tydoh6 Your body is the one that brings forth your present. Your mind will always hold on to your past. Your spirit will help you fight for the future.
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 such wise words teach me your ways.
Ready these comments brings me join at 2 am
just like the Christmas carol
If you think about it, Peacocks made fireworks and Chen, a peacock, caused a mass genocide of the Panda race. Without the fireworks, Po would not have been chosen by Oogway to be the dragon warrior. Turning in revolution to Po defeating the peacock warlord with a firework. Call it destiny and definitely call it poetic justice. As Master Oogway once said "There is no accident."
Shen*
Normally I would say that you're stretching, but then you throw that master Oogway quote at me. XD
both of them used their gift (random fireworks) in different ways, one for seeing (and becoming) the dragon warrior and defeating 2 villains, the other for genocide and it became his demise
Reminds me of that line from CLAMP. In this world there is no such thing as coincidence, only inevitability.
also, Po used fireworks when he entered the Jade Palance and was chosen to be the Dragon Warrior
Gary Oldman just sounds like he’s having such a blast as Lord Shen. He’s honestly the best villain dreamworks has made (in terms of actual villainy, you know. Actually being evil and not just being funny. Farquaad is funny and all, but he’s not threatening). I really wish Gary Oldman would do more voiceover roles.
Megamind
@@bubblemonkeys he said a Villian that is actually a Villian Megamind is a Villian but a playful one
@@guts1788 I know what he said
I like the comment but i still think tai lung is a better villain and a lot more menacing
What about the villain of "how to train your dragon 3" wasn't he a real villain?
I absolutely adore Tigress. She goes from hating Po's existence to being his most trusted friend, and there are little moments you can watch her guide and help him that really shows that. Like 10:15, when Po is kind is getting off track, she just says "Po" in a calm, motherly or teaching voice to get him to focus. I love how reliable she is.
Me too. Everyone’s talking abt Viper everywhere but they absolutely ignore the others! Especially how Tigress acts like a protective older sister
Sister? Bruh when Po hugs her back after he defeats Lord Shen, you can see romantic tension in Tigress' eyes
9:10 Did anyone else notice that in Po’s flashback everything is bathed in shadow and a dark red light except for his mother? She’s surrounded by golden light. It’s beautiful and honestly made me cry.
Hot take: the scene in the rain where Po remembers what happened? Deadass one of the greatest scenes in cinema history. No, I didn't say animation, I said cinema. It is BRILLIANT.
I absolutely loved the way they animated Shen using his tail as a bladed fan weapon. All the fighting styles really are so unique, it's fantastic.
My favorite move from him was actually when he fought the croc and ox. He put his tail between him and the croc so he wouldn't see a sword coming for him
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You missed a little win at 2:23 Remember in the first movie he said that making tofu was his dream but told po to give up on his dreams but then his son became the dragon warrior(po's dream) so he chased his own dream and is now making tofu :D
hey yeah! good catch dude :D
Labiest that is so adorable.
But that was a dumpling D:
The attention to detail xd
@@wuzittooya but still at the start of that scene Ping says "Welcome to Dragon Warrior Noodle Shop nd Tofu" or something along those lines
I like how Shen is a white peacock, not just because it represents death in China, but because it's a perfect "color" to make the markings on his tail feathers pop out more in contrast, drawing the viewer to the markings as a harsh distraction like CinemaWins said. It also makes him distinct in design, especially as a villain
This is paraphrased from another comment that I saw on some other video. The colours on a peacock's tail helps them court mates. But since Shen basically has no colour, it could represent him not being able to feel or express love like other peacocks do.
I just realized that when the goat first tells his fortune verbally, she's not being sarcastic, she's actually telling him his past: "I see pain, and anger, followed by denial."
Ohh yeah. It's weird how long ago I've watched this movie and yet there's so much amazing phycology in it that I didn't notice as a child. It makes me want to watch it again
11:38 too true, especially since his final line in the movie was "I choose this!". He was offered the chance to better himself, but he rejected it, unwilling and unable to shuck the pain of his past to ever try and redeem himself.
I totally forgot about that. He truly had one final chance to change, yet he chose to act on his emotions and continue down his dark road, which was ultimately his end
Same also I can’t be the only on that when he was talking about his parents fearing and betraying him all I could think of was Azula with the my mother thought I was a monster I mean she was right though but it still hurt or is that just me lol
He knew there was no turning back from his dark path and wouldn't be able to find happiness.
He knew he had committed too many atrocities to be deserving of redemption
My favourite thing about the first two Kung Fu Panda movies (not seen the third yet) is that both Tai Lung and Lord Shen had these brief moments when a mentor character (Shifu and the Soothsayer respectively) told them something which could have been a real revelation for the character; "I was always proud of you. And it was my pride that blinded me. I was too proud to see what you were becoming. What I was turning you into." "Your parents loved you. They loved you so much that sending you away killed them." If you watch those scenes again, both villains have a moment when you can see their convictions wavering, before they reassert themselves. While it may not play to the "everyone's a good guy" trope, I love that it shows that villainous though they are, no one is one dimensional.
And I love that in both moments, the villain makes the decision to reject their redemption by themselves. No one forces their hand. They decide in the moment that pursuing their goal is more important, whether it's Tai Lung insisting on having the Dragon Scroll or Shen insisting that his parents mean nothing to him anymore regardless. It really goes to show that it's your choices that shape you, not how you're born or even who your friends are.
Amie Fortman yeah, even the third film had a very brief moment of that. At the beginning when Oogway said to Kai. “ The more you take, the less you have”. That foreshadowed Kai’s ultimate downfall, as he took everyone’s chi, and ended up losing everything.
@@amiefortman7220 In Shen's case, it was his own guilt that made him deny all redemption.
I’m really obsessed with Shen
I’m so glad I’m not alone! It was starting to stress me out!
Lol same
He is to Dreamworks what Scar is to Disney.
I know right, there's so much depth to his character, he was really well written.
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"How many time's i have to kill the same stinking panda" I feel like this line could be a meme
Kung Fu Panda 1: Who am I? Kung Fu Panda 2: Who was I? Kung Fu Panda 3: Who will I be?
Kung Fu Panda 4: Who I Am.
@@rantradio It's Who Am I? Not Who I Am?
@@sonysangalang you can't have "Who Am I" twice, that's why the 4th film is "Who I Am". 😒 Jeezzus.
Kung Fu Panda 5: *Why* am I?
@@barbecue1015 that's pretty good 👌
9:45 I saw Shazam recently and it was really bugging me how I couldn’t remember where the “monologuing but too far away to hear” gag was from. Glad I figured that out
OMG SAMEE!!
That one had me rolling from my chair, especially Shen's response. Animated movies are just so good at putting the most ridiculous ideas into visual and acoustic perspective.
Shen is *SO WELL ANIMATED* *I have watched that one 5 second clip of him beating up Ox and Croc more times than I can count because the way he moves is mesmerising* Gary Oldman's voice fits Shen like a glove, his theme and the music that accompanies him is amazing and just his design in general is the best thing I've ever seen
Best Villain of the Trilogy . Tai Lung gets too much praise Lord Shen doesn't get enough
5:53 Another neat detail--The way Tigress cushions the impact of using herself as a projectile by crunching her body--and the way her spine curves the same way a cat--or general feline would.
This movie always has a special place in my heart for one reason. When I went to go see this movie in the theater there was a little boy that sat a couple seats to my right and he was joined by his mother. When the sequence of Po's Mom sacaficing herself to save her son happened I happened to look over and see that the little boy was in tears. He just looked up to his mom and gave her a great big hug. For a movie to give someone that young such an emotional response is something I hold in very high regard. I really love this franchise but the second movie is by far the best out of the three.
Awwwww, that made me shed a tear.
This was the first movie I watched in 3D. It. Was. Awesome.
FUCK I'M CRYING
po demonstrates his ability to find inner peace by violently and recklessly throwing fiery and sparkling canonballs
Silver Chariot Requiem Remember Shaolin Soccer final match ?
Impressive and Ironic
9:27 this scene never fails to make me tear up a bit, the swelling score and showing what Po achieved is just amazing.
That scene alone makes the second movie my most favourite of the franchise if I HAD to choose one
Him: The perfect solution to being outgunned, outmanned... Me: Outnumbered outplanned, HERE COMES THE GENERAL
I see you are a person of culture as well.
We gotta make an all out stand, ayo I’m gonna need a right hand man
check it- can i be real a second? for just a millisecond?
*chica blast~*
I know I’m late but…. Let down my guard and tell the people how I feel a second now I’m the model of modern major general
I find it interesting the Poe literally killed tai lung. It’s a risky move for an animated movie. But. Tai lung didn’t fall off a cliff or get squashed by a canon. Poe sent him to the afterlife
did you notice that shen saw that the cannon was going to fall on him and didnt move he just let himself die by falling cannon
What I find interesting is how every death in the series is shown as inevitable but never explicitly, e.g. In the first film the camera pans out to the village for the shockwave, in the second film we get a wide shot of the entire cannon before it falls on Shen, we cut away from Master Rhino as the cannon is fired. Every death is hidden from the audience, except for one; when Shen kills the wolf boss on the ships (reference 10:48 in this analysis). We can see Shen throwing three knifes and the wolf boss falling, no gore since hey, this is still a film aimed at a young audience, but it is the most explicit and graphic depiction of death in the series. It may have been to prove that Shen is not afraid to kill in cold blood if it impedes his goal, but why would we need further proof of this? I feel like there's a significance somewhere but I can't work it out.
david copenhaver I think he did this as his acceptance, where else would he go? He’s had his whole life on vengeance and suffering, he’s not exactly redeemed perfectly but at least he had let go of everything from the past.
If you saw KFP3 the wushi finger hold sends people to the spirit realm so he sent Tai Lung there. Tai Lung probably started fighting Kai or Oogway so that's how he probably died
@@shaynelagyop7996 Actually his chi was absorbed by kai
You're right about the lighting. The KFP movies use symbolic colours in almost every scene. Gold is heroism, red is power, green is wisdom; in the first one blue is evil. Tai Lung turns everything blue, even the fire he touches. And when Po's mom gives him up, she actually casts golden light onto the snow.
And yellow?
and tai lung's eyes are golden, cause he's the hero in his eyes.
Yeah, I might be missing something, but I feel like they dropped the symbolism a bit in the later movies. They still use gold to mean heroism all the time, but KFP3, Kai's main color theme is green, even though he isn't really wise or anything. I think they just wanted to give him a color theme that was distinct from Tai Lung (blue) and Shen (red).
His eyes are glowing green. He sees himself as the most wise. Still part of the mythos. Shen's eyes are red. He doesn't see himself as anything but powerful.. He admits it often. His only "color" is red. Similarly, Tai Lung lacks wisdom to understand Oogway's decisions, so there is no green anywhere on him. Even the good guys follow this mythos. Mantis was the one to say "Who am I to judge a warrior by his size?" Mantis' color? Green. Tigress is stoic, aggressive and has the qualities of a hero. She's Po's hero too. Red and gold/yellow are her main colors. Shifu is literally a RED panda. Powerful. He has blue eyes. He thinks the evil in Tai Lung is HIS fault, hence how he treats Tigress. He's wearing Green at the beginning of this movie because he's taking on the wisdom that Oogway left him. This series follows pretty closely to their mythos rules. There are a few indescrepencies (Viper's eyes), but in general, the subtle messages are pretty solid all the way through.
They actually assigned characters different colors. Tai Lung is blue which I always associated more with him being a cold and calculated character not necessarily just that he was evil.
I've always adored how Shen, when about to die, he doesn't kick and scream, he closes his eyes and embraces it. He knew despite his efforts the prophecy came true and he was fell by a warrior of black and white
I love how the second movie decided to use a darker tone, it really worked out, it's dark enough to not scare a kid, but at the same time to let them worry, that's part of what made this movie great
No win for “SKADOOSH” or “My Son is alive” These were literally the most hair raising moments
I get goosebumps every time those lines come.
at the end he mentions skadoosh
Chris Vo No he meant a win for Skadoosh or Li say "My son is alive"
MMMYYYYYYY SOOOOONNNNNNN IZZZZZZ ALIVEEEEEE
Weren’t they in the first movie?
two things you forgot to mention: the first fight scene had some parallels to the opening scene in kung fu panda, such as the rapid fire kick. This really shows that po has achieved his dreams. Also, the banging and clanging of the metal basically became a part of the soundtrack.
10:42 "Reign Fire !" "But sire, our troops !" "Just do it !" "... No" "A DreamWorks Henchmen Chooses, An MCU Crook Obeys"
James Hong loves being in these movies. He said "I hope they make a fourth one soon. Just one more before I die." Or something like that. I agree, he's amazing in this. Everyone's amazing in these movies!
Seems like he’ll get his wish hopefully
this aged poorly
Shen is right scars don’t heal fully but with time you don’t worry about them So maybe 118 wins
I think Shens albino-ism must of gave him a rough childhood hence why he felt like he was owed something
Your right ezios (from assassins creed) scar never disappeared
True. I have 2 distinct scars from when I had surgery in 3rd grade. Only two cuts that didn’t heal and over the years they’re just there, don’t even notice them. Basically forget they even exist
of the franchise so far, Shen is my favourite villain. Gary Oldman's voice was BEAUTIFULY exploited on how devious, arrogant and suave he can sound, and the animation and color scheme (I mean, albino peacock? brilliant) on every movement he made was magnificent. Also, the "parting gift" joke always gets me xD ANd by the way, one last detail that warrants a "win" was Shen's last moment, when he saw that entire wreckage crashing on him, he didn't just stood wide eyed or screamed in fear/rage, he actualy closed his eyes and achieved a certain peace by accepting his demise.
Yes I think Shen is the most stunning character in the franchise. He is just gorgeous to watch...and has Gary Oldman's voice. Absolute win! lol
I also love that they gave him sort of a backstory. It's like an old greek story, tragic hero tries to flee from his fate and runs directly into it. Also that in some scenes Shen was in fear, nearly desperate and lonely as the boy who was exiled once, give him some deepness into his character I really liked. ...and then Kung Fu Panda 3 comes and the antagonist is a fat cow. I'm sorry, but I'll never take Kai seriously.
Dragonexe He's not a fat cow. He's a fat water buffalo ghost avatar with magic green power and a serious disregard for physics.
9:42 I agree that his mother's sacrifice is important, but I really think that the thing that makes me tear up during this moment is Po's realization about his past let's him truly accept his dad without it making him feel conflicted about his identity. "I found out who I really am ... I'm your son" makes me blubber like a baby on every rewatch.
I actually choked up a little when ping said noodles, it got me in the feels man
Me too.I cry at it everytime
one of my favorite things about this movie- and i think a secret win- was that seconds before shen is crushed, he closes his eyes. in that moment, he heard po’s truth, and accepted he had done wrong and this was his comeuppance. they never denied his crimes, but in the end, shen- who spent so long suffering- made peace with what he had done and his own mistakes. it’s kind of similar to the moment with tai lung in the first, when shifu tells him he was sorry. it elevates them from single-minded revenge robots into complex villains that have the humanity necessary to make them genuine foils to the heroes.
@Wowie Zowie Yea Shen is pretty unique
Actually, Shen was a pretty sad baddie. I mean, if that weird goat hadn't prophesized his downfall, he may have just grown out of his adolescent arrogance like we all did eventually. But getting scared and insulted like that, what chance did he have?
@@Volkbrecht In my own personal opinion Shen didn't have much choice. So a group of people in the colour black and white where destined to bring harm upon Shen maybe even death. Before you say that Shens father talking to the pandas would stop things theres 2 big issues with that. If you was planning to harm someone you would keep it a secret second as mentioned the prophecy would suggest this didn't work anyway. So the only option Shen would have would that would work is carried out successfully would be destroying the threat. Its a terrible thing he did but it wasn't like he had any real choice.
@@jammygamer8961 Yes, but only after that "prophecy" was made. Compare it to the first movie. Somehow, somewhen, Tai Lung would have eventually escaped that prison. That was really just accelerating the unavoidable. The conflict was already established, it was just detained by Tai Lung's incarceration. But in this part it's not that clear. Young Shen was generally not a good character, but that prophecy directed his bad temper in a certain direction and gave it a reason to grow, to become more focused. Would Shen have become a genocidal maniac without it? Maybe, maybe not. He didn't get a chance to find out.
@@Volkbrecht I have a feeling that Soothsayer kinda twisted the truth. When she said young Shen saw dark power in the gunpowder she wouldn't with complete certainty know what Shen intentions were. For all we know it could of simply been home defense as Shen was trying to impress his parents. Before you ask how do i know at the start of the film we are shown that after the genocide Shen immediately turned up to his parents full of pride but when he sees the look on their faces he becomes visibly sad.
Two neat continuity pieces. First.... the motif of this movie? Yesterday is history. Oogway's one time message becomes a recurring theme through po's life, and he almost certainly knew he needed it. Likely because he KNEW about po's past feom his own experience with the village. Second.... po has a habit of not letting the enemy talk. He cut off tai lung in the first film, agitated kai with his nonchalance and threw off shen with his behaviour. And when he DID listen to shen it all went downhill. I like that, it ties brilliantly into the motif of being yourself. He doesn't let them decide the rules of their interactions.
I love the part where Mr. Ping had to explain to Po that he was adopted. For us of course the sequence is for haha funnies, but the whole reveal felt like how it would have been if a human parent had to explain to their adopted human son that they were adopted. It felt natural. And I love that they did not drag the scene too much, just enough so that we would get the idea.
Something you didn't mention, but I really liked is that seconds before Shen was crushed he closed his eyes and relaxed. What lead him down the path of villainy was his inability to accept his own destiny, it's like he finally found peace at the last seconds of his life.
You forgot a win for this movie....there are several moments in this movie, particularly with Po and Tigress, but as a whole with Po and his friends where you can clearly see how much stronger the friendship is between them. For example, on the boat when Tigress is asking Po what's going on with him and giving him wisdom and counsel and opening up a bit about her own story....then in the jail when she hugs Po and and tells him to stay with the masters and forbids him from fighting, NOT because she doesn't believe in him, but because she cannot bear to see her friend be killed by Lord Shen and she knows Po is compromised. And then at the end when Po is looking at his friends all fighting beside him and following him....I like how these moments all go very quiet, but you can feel the emotions clearly in each scene and they are powerful. Particularly at the end when they are all in the water....notice, he looks at all his friends, but goes to Tigress first to make sure she's OK. They all went from completely HATING the idea of Po in the first film to now fighting beside him and trusting him unconditionally. Its a beautiful thing.
I honestly to God think he has a crush on her. Even I do!!!!
@@wargamingsupernoob Nah, they are just soul mates.
I really liked how Tigress and Po interacted on the boat. It’s clear that she genuinely wants to help Po, but doesn’t know what to do beyond being someone for him to talk to. And Po shows his respect for Tigress has gone way past the “fanboy” stage into a genuine trust of both her abilities and her character.
Heh, she couldn't _bear_ the though of losing him.
2:56 this is my favorite villain moment and line from any movie. It's so clever, and I love the bravery of the rhino master to stand against what we know to be certain death. There is something uniquely sinister about using a gun to defeat a hero and render all of their martial training useless.
He wasn't exactly brave, he simply didn't know what he was going to be up against.
It's your parting gift
Groverkiin Muppetborn part of you there and part of you way OVER there STAINING THE WALLS
Technically it's a cannon not a gun, but I get your point.😀👍👍
Indiana jones is a dick
At 9:03 during Po's flashback, you can hear a tune that's actually called the Dies Irae. Basically, its a really old chant that symbolizes or predicts death that's about to happen (Po's parents) just a little something cool that I thought people might like to know.
That’s cool
The whole technology vs kung fu is what really got me, and even then the cannons were not a guarantor of success - the peacock was an amazing choice for such a villain
That's actually a common chinese kung-fu film archetype
There's one detail you didn't point out that I loved, but which many don't appreciate - after the Wolf Boss and his men take Po and the Five hostage, he sucker-punches him in the stomach and Po really feels it. This is a two-fold bonus: firstly, it shows that since Po has gotten more fit since the first film, while he's still chubby he no longer has the layer of fat that protected him from Tai Lung's nerve strike techniques (which disabled the Five); secondly, it shows that he's lost a major advantage from the first film, but did so by trading in for other advantages - ones which will help him later while the fat layer was more specifically useful against Tail Lung.
Mister Ping also asks him if he has lost weight which Po kinda confirms. And it makes sense: "I eat when I'm upset." Since the defeat of Tai Lung there was no reason for Po to be upset. He proved himself to be a skilled Kung Fu fighter, he earned the respect, even friendship of the Five and Shifu. Bonus points: Why does he eat when he's upset? Because deep down he associates it with the loss of his family. So much depth in just that one detail.
A good reason to be fat then: damage absorption increased by 100%
Also: in Kung Fu Panda 1, Poh becoming the Dragon Warrior was possible when Shifu realized he didn't have to train Poh the way he had trained the others, but to find a way of teaching that matched Poh's strengths and personality. What had to do Poh in the third movie? Become a teacher like Shifu did. And the second movie just reflects how personal journeys needs to be accounted for when trying to learn. Some people had to punch trees for 15 years, others had to make piece with their feelings of out-of-placeness.
1:26 something that doesn't get talked about as much is Shifu probably admitted this because of 2 reasons 1. He prior to the events of the first one was a stubborn control freak, He probably wanted the Dragon Warrior to be someone who more or less spent their lives training with him(Tai Lung/Tigress) 2. and this is the big one it means he alienated his adoptive son over nothing (and also as the shorts would reveal he as a result of that didn't do the best job at being a father for Tigress because of this(treated her more like a freeloading student than a daughter), and caused her to pick up some of his worst traits save for her not being control freak(he wasn't abusive but didn't really treat her like a daughter, didn't really show affection, tended to be very harsh whenever she'd make a mistake especially during training presumably so she wouldn't have ended up like Tai Lung or if she did he wouldn't feel as bad))
8:10 I’ve seen this move a million times. HOW DID I NOT CATCH THAT?!
This truly is Dreamworks best franchise. Much as I love How To Train Your Dragon and Shrek, I always find myself wanting to watch Kung Fu Panda again.
HTTYD begs to differ
Yeah, Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon are DreamWorks most consistently good franchises
11:22 No win for Shen closing his eyes and accepting death? It's a definete cliche dodge
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After rewatching this film immediately after rewatching the first one, it is safe to say I extremely enjoyed this one. The fight scenes were sooooo much fun to watch whether I knew the ending of them or not, the characters were amazing, the visuals, the music, I love it so much, just as much as the first. Shen was special too because he was such a fun villain to watch.
love how throughout the films, he still never beats stairs
One of the best animated films ever made in my opinion. It's is the most beautifully-made Dreamworks film I have seen thus far and it's easily my favorite of the trilogy. I think this film is an underrated masterpiece and is one of the finest sequels ever made.
Ryan R. I'm not sure about _ever._ But, I guess the animation is very well done. However some other movies win in storytelling. Again, my opinion may be different than yours.
+13 Lense The storytelling in Kung Fu Panda 2 is one of the biggest reasons why I love it so much and why it's one of my favorite movies ever. I absolutely loved it when I first saw it and every time I think about it, I always love it more and more. I could explain a million reasons why, but my comment would be so long. Just watch Doug Walker's review of the film instead. I agree with everything he said.
While this film is awesome and one of Dreamworks best 3D films, have you seen one of their few 2D films, The Prince of Egypt (1998)? That film is a true masterpiece. I have found ZERO things wrong with it and found everything right with it. It is my all-time favorite animated film, beating out The Iron Giant, Spirited Away, any film by Don Bluth, and any Disney/Pixar film. Speaking of which, Cinemawins please do that movie.
The prince of Egypt is also fantastic, I don't get why it's only rated 7.0/10 on IMDb
andiran23 people spam a lot of films with either 10-star or 1-star ratings. Never take IMDb average ratings seriously. But read my previous comment to see what I thought of that underrated masterpiece.
I love the double meaning in Shen's downfall prophecy. It said he'd be defeated by the black and white. Everyone assumed that meant Po - and make no mistake, he played a huge part - but Shen himself is also black and white, and in the end it was his own actions that destroyed him.
Two things about Po and Tigress's relationship I don't see mentioned 1. While yes it gets interrupted before she can do it(presumably because they said it in a short film and thus Po and most of the audience knew it)Po Actually got her to try to open up to someone, (I assume the rest of the 5 knew that she was abandoned as an infant and ostracized at an orphanage but probably don't talk about it often) but give Po props for getting her to try it and not even pyring it out of her. 2. Judging by the 5's reactions to Tigress hugging Po and later on when she lets Po hug him she typically doesn't show affection that much or let people show affection to her So Po more or less got one of if not the most stone faced, cold hearted(not evil but more so aloof, prefers to keep to herself. It's made clear she doesn't typically treat everyone as harshly as she does to Po in the first one) "hardcore" warrior in China(I say this because Masters Croc/Ox are practically shitting themselves at 7:50) to open up and show affection and vulnerability EDIT I rewatched this movie last night and right before Tigress hugged Po, Po explains that he remembered seeing Shen the night he was abandoned is starting to realize he probably had a part in that and they show her realizing he's having some of the same pains she's had most of her life (I think they do want to at least explain where she came from or why she was abandoned but don't want to give it a full length movie because it'd just be this all over again)
Ngl I thought you were going to say something about fan service
“He May have been your father, but he wasn’t your daddy.” Yondu. God I tear up at that. It summarizes this movie so well.
When does this line come up?who says it?
@@videhbhaav Its from guardians of the galaxy vol. 2 and is said by yondu
Ohh okay.Thank you.I thought it was KFP.
@@videhbhaav nah
now I need to watch KFP 3 again
You mentioned the colours in this film, but as with the last one, they really can't be mentioned enough. The initial few shots of the first scene in Gongmen City are actually quite bright and airy, but the INSTANT that Shen turns up, every colour that isn't red just drains away. Watch it happen at 2:43 - the only colour on the screen is red. Colour can also indicate the balance of power in the action scenes - in the tower escape, the red environment of the tower's interior fades to black as the Five climb it; during the river fight, the red lanterns on the boats are extinguished as they are used to block the river. You can literally watch Shen's influence recede away from the sea. The effort that goes into fluffy animals beating each other senseless, honestly.
Whoever animated Shen's fight scenes I hope they got a pay rise. The way he moved was so cool to watch.
1:52 -"Somehow it's just as entertaining as watching a typical human kung fu fight". INCORRECT. It is infinitely MORE entertaining than watching humans fight. Humans are boring, and even in film there are extreme physical limitations to obey physics. In animation, especially with animals and their unique anatomy, there's a lot more creative space to use clever choreography and the squash-n-stretch technique to make far more compelling and engaging kung fu fights.
I mean its subjective. I really do enjoy human kung fu fights just as much if not more or less than animated ones. It comes down to preference or opinions.
Except for Jackie Chan
My daughter loves this film, she even cries at the appropriate moment when po’s mum has to abandon him, she’s not even 2. Now that’s some good writing ✍️
after watching Schafrillas production's video on shrek 2 as one of the best sequels, i think KFP 2 classifies too. the criteria he mentions are pretty much all met: 1 - expand the universe in a meaningful way: we take a look outside the valley of peace, and get to see more of this world, seeing new kung fu masters and even just small cultural habits. 2 - carry on the story: rather than redoing the story, they show a specific case of what the dragon warrior's duty is, and add in a second plot which goes deeper into his origins. 3 - introducing new themes: the theme of identity beyond name or job is introduced, and is also carried on to the 3rd, making it more meaningful. 4 - leave an impact: obviously, since it's another step towards Po's destiny.
hey I like that channel too. But I believe all criteria is met. I'm glad they dont change po personality too, while some might found it weird how positive po is, it's one of the reason why I love kungfu panda. See, for whoever made wreck it ralph sequel, this is how you do a sequel =__= I hated that movie so much because they destroyed ralph personality. sorry, it turns into a complaint
Kung Fu Panda 3 is also a perfect sequel as well, I guess.
@@joeyjerry1586 You are correct, but this is also why I love to think about the 3 films as 3 pieces of the same movie. They bleed into one another perfectly, following and using aspects from each other to weave a perfect story, that is dyed in beautiful art.
I love that when Shen was fighting the guards, he flared at one with his tail, cutting off his line of sight *and* distracting him simultaneously, and then proceeded to try to stab through at him while he was busy. Even if he dodged it, it's the little things. Put it on .25x for best effect. Edit: 3:06 timestamp
I still love the response to Po’s “Scars heal” just shen’s sass with “No they don’t, wounds heal”
Shen is literally the best villain in the whole Kung fu panda trilogy, and it's astonishing how they made a peacock more scary than a freaking leopard, I mean unlike tai lung, Shen was just straight up psycopathic
My favorite detail is how Shen was going to be different from the beginning, he's literally an ALBINO peacock Edit: according to replies, there are such things as 'white' peacocks. Very sorry! Will check my facts next time
He's not albino. There is white peacock
Those are albinos. Also, most albino vertebrates are white with red eyes or accented body parts. Shen fits that description 100%.
I find Shen very interesting as a villain.
Shen is leucistic. Albino peacocks do not exist.
@@valerielopez7485 You are right but in the case of this film Shen is the only exception to Kung Fu Pandas rule of having 100% real animals. Albino Peacocks don't exist but Shen is pretty much what one would look like exactly. You may say he still has some colour this is due to the fact he inks himself
I didn't know that you were a Father. Congratulations on being a Dad.
Jackson Rivers wtf who does not know that I've been here since 1300 be fore the birth of jesus/0 subs
Mr.EliteGaminG 1. Learn some grammar. No punctuation, capitalization, and your sentence makes no sense. 2. Not everyone would know that CinemaWins is a father. Not everyone watches this channel's every video, and someone don't watch to the end. Chill out dude.
Mr.EliteGaminG, you do know he's only been a father for a few months now, right? It's not that hard to believe that somebody hasn't watched in a few months.
Mr.EliteGaminG Jesus wasn't born in 1300 though .-. It was like 40 BC or something
Rmmc 1203 I was just trying to congratulate him on becoming a Father.
I've been watching this movie a lot recently, coming to realize it is literally my favourite animated movie, if not my favourite movie in general. I've found that if you keep a close eye on Tigress when she's not the focus of the frame, her reactions to everything are priceless
Why did Shen saying "What?!" not become a meme?
We must rectify this mistake
I have no idea, but now we must fix this mistake.
Did you guys fix it yet
So...when do we get Everything GREAT About Kung Fu Panda 3?
-the end
Ah damn, no wonder couldn’t find it
Never ~CinemaWins
I am still looking for it. Guess I will tweet it to him
I'm saying!
The first two (I don't care for the third) of these never fail to make me cry - each movie gets me multiple times before it ends. For example, Papa Goose saying "noodles" as the group walks away, as though there is no degree of speed that will make this separation hurt him any less, there is nothing you can do to soften the blow that is taking away his beloved son possibly forever. It HURTS ME, this poor little BIRD. These movies do so many things RIGHT, so many things WELL, that I will laugh in spite of myself AND openly weep all within the same hour. These movies are so artistically crafted that I was moved to tears multiple times just watching these reviews. Just seeing the cut down, chopped up, rearranged moments of emotion made me cry. God these movies are so fucking good.
What’s wrong with the third?
(MahmoudX) Imo, it felt really rushed, and it felt like they forced a bit too much into one movie. Kia could have been elaborated on as a villain much more, but he was played a bit too much as a joke at times. However, apart from that, I still think that it’s good. Not quite as good as its predecessors, but still definitely not Dreamworks’ worst.
Kfp2 is the best
@@helenaperez4343 I give the blame to the parents who basically forced to make KFP3 more lighthearted.
Secret Name Kung Fu Panda 2 was the only movie to ever make me tear up. I didn’t shed any but I was really close when Po found his inner peace.
8:06 I've seen this movie over 20 times and i never noticed that
0:33 “One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it” 😁
Also, who else thinks that whenever Shen extracts his feathers really quickly, the sound is just so...satisfying. It's so cool.
I love the conflict between the colours in the Kung Fu Panda themes. In the first movie we had Po's light vs. Tai Lung's dark; or you could say Po's gold and Tai Ling's black/blue. In this movie you have Po's gold vs. Shen's red. In the third movie you have Po's gold vs. Kai's green.
FinalHunter97 Dark blue if anything, but only to fit in with the dark colour scheme in general.
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During the flashback scene where Mr. Ping finds Po, the entire scene is cast in gold- because the act of adopting him was one of heroism. Very good.
3:54 That was literally the "Chinese Water Torture" method and I don't think anyone can remain sane under that ordeal.
One thing I noticed in the second movie is during the fight scene at the start, Po's flurry of kicks is perfectly immitating the flurry of kicks he did during the dream sequence at the start of the first film, showing that it's no longer a dream, he can finally do kung fu for real now.
During the part where Po masters inner peace with the water drop thing, there's good symbolism where it also happens to be crossed with the scenes of his mother escaping the wolves. It shows perfectly how Po is coming to terms with where he came from and allowing the memories to flow naturally, unlike at first when flashbacks to this would hinder him.
If you ever review Kung fu panda 3 there’s a scene where tie lungs chi is on kai’s belt when he captures monkey and viper but it’s only for a split second on the left side of his belt
Thank you for pointing this out I never would've noticed it and wanted them to show Tai Lung as 3 explains the Wuxi Finger Hold. Also found you can see it the first time the zoom in on the Chi. Again somewhat hidden.
WHAAAAAT!?
This series has some serious detail
Doesn't that mean he should have come out of the portal at the end of Kung Fu Panda 3? That would have been funny if he did and he interacted with po and the gang. Also I would have loved to see those two battle it out in the spirit realm. Obviously Kai won but I hope tai lung put up a good fight. Lastly I would have loved to see ALL the battles Kai had in the spirit realm... So cool.
@@chrispj713 Kai took Tai Lung's chi within the spirit world so he wouldn't have come out of the portal. Instead he probably returned to the spirit world along with oogway.
Around the 6:50 mark is one of my favorite parts of the throne room scene. They get to the top of the stairs and a wolf is pointing a spear at tigress and she is having none of it so she just effortlessly kicks it away and into a beam. Idk why it just seems like such a cat thing to do
My favorite Shen quote: The only reason you're still alive is because I find your stupidity mildly amusing. Also, at the beginning, the puppetry looks for the intro of the movie was there because Gongmen City used puppetry as entertainment. It was hinted near the end when Shen's ships were riding through the city going to the harbor. Don't know if you knew that or not.
Something fantastic about the films is the amount of attention they pay to chinese culture, each film works as a western narrative with western values, but is also a well-written and enjoyable adventure from a confucianist perspective with many of the common eastern tropes and devices used cleverly. And it REALLY shows, the more attention you pay, not only is everything stylised to look like eastern art, the creatures, locations, subtle cultural implications and animals are all authentically Chinese even with a layer of western accessibility. Take the spin-offs. instead of just slapping a fresh name on Christmas like most other holiday specials, they made a beautifully loyal portrayal to the Dongzhi Festival, although they called it "winter feast" to keep it accessible to western audiences. In the first film it's both a rise to a hero and the teacher's learning to accept his student, while at the same time it's about a pair of students trying to honour their teachers. In the 3rd film, the villain is, to me, a clear and intriguing parallel to the western Lucifer in motive, method and themes, but his use of jade weapons is just a brilliant piece of Chinese influence! Jade is a sacred material associated with souls (hence the jombies) and relatively delicate, to use it for a weapon is like trying to attack someone with a pocket bible, impractical and blasphemous. by using them he's mocking his opponents by using an inferior weapon, and everything kung-fu and oogway stand for by pretty much weaponize the souls of his victims.
Daniel Wilson I’m just gonna go off on a limb and say you’re a big fan of Chinese culture in general?
@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 more a fan of cultural spirituality and wtiting motifs in gneral, but that too!
...I gotta rewatch all the Kung Fu Panda movies. Don't care what *anyone* says, I love them.
And you should love them! They're wonderful.
Same
Anirudh Mukund never saw the third one as I was told it was bland and too kid oriented. So I didn’t want to ruin my love of the first two. Should I give it a chance?
@@stingerjohnny9951 Yes. Yes you should. It's funny, It stays true to the originals without feeling stale, and it feels like an appropriate progression, both for Po's character and the story as a whole. Po doesn't lose his character development, but still has more growing to do, particularly in terms of being a teacher for the first time, and it feels earned. Highly recommended.
TheGingerhead ok thanks I'll give it a shot.
One thing that I really hoped you'd notice is the music within the second movie, all of it is so well adapted to the scenes and it's so unique to the movie. That's the one thing I wish KFP3 had
Can I just say the flourish of Shifu’s theme at 10:23 is like the most amazing thing?
The scene where he catches the fireworks is my favourite scene from any movie ever
Everything GREAT about KUNG FU PANDA 2? “EVERYTHING”
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Yeah I wanna see that
Everything *_IS_* great about kung fu panda 2
At 7:43 I never got that ginnifer Goodwin reference until I watched zootropolis. Now it makes sense
The only series where every movie was a revelation in every category.