New Tank From Belarus - Should Ukraine be Afraid?
2022 ж. 1 Там.
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Belarus recently unveiled their latest modernization of the T-72 tank, called T-72BM2. Many people were intrigued by this tank because it appears to have Relikt Explosive Reactive Armor mounted on the front of the tank, something which Russian T-72 tank upgrades do not have, at least not in active service. But this tank might not be what it first appears to be.
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"The Wikipedia list of T-72 variants is incomplete, you can help by expanding it." Every Eastern European nation: *gets their keyboard out*
Central and south European (former Yugo nations atleast) also
Some politician in 2072: "A brand new modern T72 variant cabable of fighting in modern conflicts!" T-72: "Just let me die already..."
Also T-72: "Why I'm still here? Just to suffer?"
@@AlreadyTakenTagThe Abrams and T72 will no doubt make it until 2100
@@AlreadyTakenTag *Proceeds to slap NEWER ERA, APS, Soft-Kill PS, 120mm Smoothbore Gun, Gunner & Commander Optics, RWS, Communication Suites, Engine, Turret Layout, Suspension System, Armored Carousel for the Autoloader and Automatic Gear Driving System onto the T-72* Also the Politician : We will call this new variant of the T-72 as.......T-72 2.
Id love to see a video about the best T-72 modernisations, their comparison and your opinion on them
I put Craiger rims on a 1972 Dodge Demon.. It was still a 1972 Dodge Demon.... This beating the dead horse of a "Modern T72" is getting older then watching Biden shyt his pants on Tv...
I think we did best modernization of T72 M84AS2 is very good modernization.
@@TA.LONGBOW.ALASKA thats a bad comparison. Its more like putting a new engine, twin turbo, new transmission, new wheels, bodykit, new radio with better speakers etc. on your 1972 Dodge Demon. Yes, the car looks kinda the same, but it behaves completely different. It will achive things that its older itself couldn't, for example, much better acceleration and top speed.
Id love to see a video about the best T-72 blown out on Ukraine.
In the end, none of these upgrades have made any difference, whether it’s the T-72, the T-80, or the T-90. They are still all vulnerable to weapons that hit the top of the turret. The auto loader just gives them all a more exciting way to blow up and quickly kill the crew.
Belarus: "We need more modern tanks!" Also Belarus: *slightly upgrades their existing tanks*
Guess they've killed enough Ukranians to earn the XP to unlock Relikt on thier T-72 research tree.
I mean it's effectively on par with T-72B3M aside from the increased engine power and it seems pretty mobile so I'd wager they did improve the engine likely with a 1000hp engine from the older T-90A.
Like every Country Does tbh lol
Like every country? Germany upgrades Leopard 2A4/6 to Leopard 2A7, US from M1A1 abrams to M1A2SepV3, Russia from T90A to T90AM or creates new T90M
a good upgrade
2:45 You haven't seen anything yet Red, the media in my country (Vietnam) even described Vietnamese T-55M3 tanks as being comparable to modern new generation tanks.
I mean, they are comparable in the sense that they can be compared, haha 😅
Tank is tank, it shoots HE it makes huge boom
I guess being an MBT derived from T-55 with ERA and the L7 105mm, is still kinda comparable but to a sense that it’s an MBT. Practically it’s just similar to other T-55 modernized variants like the TR-85, other T-55s with a 105mm, and other 100/105mm modernized tanks. Not sure how would that fare up with like 120/125mm armed MBTs.
They doesnt know shit.
@@TheRandCrews no one in Vietnam talk about it, except this guy. He is just out of content to talk about . I read every state media report or news about that tank and NO ONE call it a new generation tank or can beat any modern MBT.
It's still an upgraded T-72. I doubt that Belarus has the budget and without a foreign customer funding its development I can't imagine many will be upgraded.
I don't think you need to doubt, I think it just stone cold doesn't. The estimated Belarusian military budget is so tiny, like, well under 100 million usd, compared to the some 60 billion for Russia. Even if that number leaves 3x their actual budget out, that's still an order of magnitude less than Russia. Forget actually developing military hardware, idk how that's even enough for an unmotivated conscript army to do enough preventative maintenance to keep old soviet stock from falling apart in storage. Idk if they can procure anything new with a budget like that, but hey, maybe bolting some dubious quality ERA on a tank and calling it modern is worth it to make someone actually believe it
@@restitvtororbis5330 Actually the budget is around 660 milion euros. Whitch is still way low. But its only 1.2% of GDP. Belarus has pretty good air defence and artilery. Its armoured units are the weakest part of military. Even the airforce is pretty good.
@@restitvtororbis5330 they’re still better equipped than the Ukrainians 😭🤣
@@mrmacias4217 are we? Cool to hear that from... where are you from? Minsk? Vitebsk? Homel? Something smaller like Zhodino? From which part of Belarus does such a renowned expert on Belarus like you come from, eh? Or maybe you're just a soiboi, who grew up in a country that allowed you to grow up into such a delusional edgy kid because someone before you worked to get there, eh?:D
It's much simpler then that and situation would be the same be our budget 10 times bigger or smaller. Lukashenko lost an ability to make such decisions. He lost majority of his political capital in 2020 and in 2022, when Russia attacked Ukraine, Kremlin no longer had incentive to even make a show of supporting him. No one asks his opinion, no one offers him anything, there are no deals or compromises Russia proposes to him. He just receives orders and speech texts from Kremlin. There is no more way for him to talk back. And with that, do you really think that Russia is interested in having another competitor on arms market or to lose a contract? Since now Belarus can't be used to avoid sanctions like in 2014-2020, it's game over for local arms production. There were a few attempts to do some new things locally, but those people either already left the country or profession that barely pays.
Belarus: Poland has those fancy PT-91s!? Hah We now have something like that! Poland: We like them but we made them in the 90s and are starting to phase them ou.... Belarus: MODERN TONK!
If the give this tank a good gun might actually be able to take out some of those tanks
@@mrmacias4217 babuska in Kiev took down russian drone with a jar of cucumbers in brine, so I guess everything is possible.
the Belarusian T72 has everything except the commander’s sight, in order to be called modern
@@martalukaszjastrzab760 wow, I will squeeze you are aware of Ukrainian propaganda and fairy tales. you also forgot to say how one old man killed 3 Russians with a pencil, and also about the ghost of Kyiv
@@Niko_rj I know it's propaganda, but it's still much funnier than yours about nazis and liberation of Ukrainians.
Hey Red, a little video suggestion. Could you consider giving us a few words about the stuff that Poland is getting nowadays?
He stated in the PT-91Twardy video that he is working on that
But can it beat me in a turret flying contest?
If the ammo rack is full and the wind is good it culd .
Would be a close competition if you ask me🤣
Turkey's Leopards in Syria sure did set the bar high.
Haha, I've never seen a t90m turret fly off...
I haven't see any t90m turret of Mr comedy 😉
Any tank is a 'good tank' when the opponent does not have any..
Everyone makes fun of old tanks until one is pointed at you.
YEP which is why UKRAINE will grab any tank coming their way!
Especially that Poles gave away most of their tanks
3:47 That's crazy footage of a turrets "rapid, unscheduled disassembly"
No. Considering Belarus has a military budget just below that of Panama, and considerably below Angola - I think its safe to say we won't see many great military technological developments from Belarus
A common problem with both Belarus and Russia. Sure they can design and develop excellent weaponry but their budget and industrial capability can't produce them in vast numbers.
Is Belarus as corrupt as Russia and Ukraine?
They make decent upgrades to Soviet era equipment plus their drone industry
Ditto that!
@@AlreadyTakenTag also corruption
Awesome update as always
Better turret aerodynamics for higher Jack-in-box effect
Ukraine started new competition. After Russians invented tank biatlon, Ukrainians invented throw with tanks turret.
Ukrainian tanks are the best at it! crew absolutely love filling the tank with amuntion
@Работаем, брат! misspelled funny
@Работаем, брат! said russian whose 90% of "Country" Still lives in middle ages without electricity or plumbing, no wonder you steal toilets from Ukraine when you still shit in to holes in the ground lmao
@Работаем, брат! severe copium inhalation
Just install T90M Proryv 3 turrets on all those T72B hulls along with Relikt and Arena M and call it a day already
but that directs money towards one certain goal and russian officials dont like it because they cant buy new yacht when its known where the money is going
@Jan Gutkowski more cringe russian corruption memes while we in the west face planned austerity by ideological weirdos in power. yt comment sections are like reddit. Just tons of neocon and neolib bootlicking.
@@jPlanerv2 hear the propaganda song
@@Niko_rj yep you can hear it play for every new tanks russia produced since 10 years so like 2 times lmao
@@jPlanerv2 Russia has modernized more than 2,000 tanks, created 1,500 T90A tanks, and is creating the T90M. Russia is possibly the only country in the world that creates a tank from nothing, and not only modernizes.. not to mention the rest of the technology. you better follow the usa where they spend a lot of millions and billions and not always successfully. say that there is also corruption? to twist the US more failures in technology and projects than Russia? or did you have to say something about Russia?
As always , keep up the great work , really enjoy watching your videos .
Would an ERA "cope cage" work to defend against top attack munitions? Something that might actually improve a T-72 upgrade
So like mount on top of these metal cages ERA? That would not help against javelin because it is tandem warhead and would just go through 1 layer of ERA. But it might work to put ERA on the roof of the tank and on top of the cage, that could defeat both warheads. That would add a frickin lot of weight tho, just to protect from on specific weapon in a certain situation. I don't think it would be worth if the tanks become significantly slower because of it.
@@ratlingzombie8705 you're already adding weight with era packages, and your not outrunning a missile in a tank anyway. Although I would also wonder if you could design ERA to get around the tandem stage head. I'd also want to get rid of the cage format as it made getting out of the tanks in emergencies more difficult.
No it wouldn't. It would need more spaced armor under the ERA. How many levels of building do you want ontop of a tank. Also the ERA ontop of the cope cage will most likely damage the vehicle or the commander if hes over hatch
The crew would find it helpful for washing machines
COPE CAGES are purely for moral effects!
Great content as always 👍🏻
80% of the T-72's issue is literally it's reverse speed. T-72's have been actually known to take alot of hits before getting knocked out on average. But it can't effectively Disengage or flee without exposing it's weaker armor. it can't hit and run, quickly change positions under fire. I've seen T-80's doing some crazy Tactics in Ukraine and getting away with it. while T-72's are just getting absolutely Mauled. Seeing T-72's in towns running through houses because they need out of there fast and can't expose the rear armor. The T-72 would be a Decent tank if it had at least 8-12mph reverse. and better thermals. Russia designed Amazing vehicles/planes/guns/ships/ect. but never have enough money to Make them great. What the west has is...money. You can make a 2003 Honda civic beat a new corvette with enough money in the Honda Russia can Build great stuff. but if it can't afford it.. The T-72 was suppose to be a Cheap, decent. MBT. rugged, decent armor. just in the front. fast moving forward. While the Red Guards used T-64's and it's bigger brother the T-80. which was suppose to be replaced by T-95 or T-14. Never has... I believe the factory that built the T-64/80 was a Ukraine Tank factory.. which im sure is why Ukraine's army MBT is the T-64. The T-72 was the only real option for Russia. The T-90 is just a redesigned. Uparmored T-72 with a new wielded Turret. These tanks really aren't built for this Era. Including many western tanks. Smash a M1A2 with a javelin, Brimstone, or Spike. especially New Top-down attacking ATGM's. im sure it won't fare much better.. But I'll tell ya what. Id much prefer a Abrams or leopard. with the ability to gtfo of there when im in trouble. vs a T-72 that often times.. it's safer to bail out than turn the tank around and Flee. ending up a charcoaled Body soldered to the Turret ring.
Cool thing about Abrams is that it won't cook you inside as a crew member if it takes a hit into it's ammo storage. P.S. oh and I forgot! It won't send you to space either.
You may want to change Russia to soviet union. Parts and tech was invented/ produced in other countries like DDR, Belarus and Ukraine. The biggest gap to the western money driven economy was IT. Russia and the soviet union would not stand a chance against a western army of similar size with ther advantage in sensors, satellites and drones. Yes soviet union did produce a lot of battle tested products that are good money value. But the west still has the tech edge and self heating toilet seats on top.
I wouldn't say they can design amazing stuff, or at least they can only design it but not actually build it. I would still take a western tank over any of the comparable designs Russia has made. Their doctrines haven't really changed with the idea that they use saturation above all else. Which translates to the equipment that they actually use. With being meant to be cheap to build so they can have a bunch of it, but they can't operate very effectively in limited quantities. Which alongside the fact that modern tank rounds are coming close to making Relikt almost a non issue to penetrate.
@@sgeffysgeffy7436 For Sure. way safer. easier to Escape, As an American I unfortunately seen footage of American Tanks being destroyed. ATGM's from the side of the turret and top down can still punch through the Blast door. But out of 22 pictures. only 3 Had the turret Blown off the tank. I say as an American breaks my heart to know Americans possibly Burned alive or got injured.. But it's messed up that Some atgm's can Punch through over 1000mm. be hidden 3km away.. easily penetrating the side of most tanks... Nobody's safe.. It can hit the side of the turret or under the ring and cut crew members in half. crazy to me the technology today.. My heart truly goes out to everyone in this war.. We're all just people.. under orders from governments that know citizens are expendable. seeing these poor Russian's with there heads blown off.. I just watched today Ukraine soldiers torturing a Russian teenager (19) Alexandrei. and Russian Missiles hitting Ukraine civilians. im no pansy but good lord you'd think we'd find a compromise. Humans are getting butchered. sent to there mothers in pieces or charred bones. War is Terrifying in this era..
@@destra1257 Oh man, ATGMs are terrifying. Russian Kornet is laser guided and can hit targets that are up to 8km away. Just imagine, if the ATGM operator has just enough camouflage he is literally almost invisible for the tank crew. And you can't hear the missile until it's too late. 0-0.
Its like the "sport line" of ordanary cars when they change as little as possible to make it seem way more "sporty"...
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A tank is still a tank. T-72 is an outdated platform but the infantry facing it will still shit themselves if they see one staring at them, lol.
I dont think t72 is "outdated" platform
T 72 upgraded is on pair with latest m1a2 sep v3
@@justmr9553 The infantry should protect them from MANPADS.
@@justmr9553 MANPADS are shoulder mounted SAM systems, you are thinking of ATGMs.
@@vedranlastric3632 nahhh. They really arent there is really only one tank that is equivalent to the m1 for the Russians. T90M
T72 BM makes sense. Bowel Movement is what any tanker will be having in those death traps.
Investigations have found that the ammo rack explosions are rare and are thought to be common purely from Video game myths and staged videos.
The T-72 just wants to retire peacefully, let them rest lol
No it doesn’t. She wants to keep going like the AK
You are aware of the fact that newer versions of the B3 feature Relikt instead of Kontakt-5?! Mounts still look the same.
Interesting stuff, there was once a Slovak t-72 upgrade program called Moderna , if i remember correctly it had antiaircraft guns mounted on the sides of the turret, i wonder what happened to that tank.
also has gen 3 panoramic commander therms
@@alexpayne2662 Interesting! do you have any information about the fate of that program?
Nice video with much important information. But, I think the main comparison here should be how the T-72BM2 compares to the main tank in Belarus service, that is the T-72B. Belarus don't have the capacity to do massive upgrades by themselves, so if they are able to do some upgrades to their old fleet of T-72B tanks, that would improve their situation.
I'm not surprised that the performance is slightly above average at best or even below average at worst compared to older Soviet tanks. I don't think the country itself has any impressive industrial or scientific field in comparison to other Eastern European countries.
Half of Belarus' territory used to be Polish rural farmlands, so no wonder they are not big on industry. Hell, majority of Polish heavy industry is still most concentrated in the western and south-western regions, which in turn used to be German territory
Interesting, you tube asked to rate the original post. 🧐
But it has the only dictator in Europe ... Or rather 2nd after Putin.
@@Rigel_6 Sights for Russian tanks developed in Belarus
@@Rigel_6 Nah, it's only problem of having bs economy, where Goverment spending is most important factor for economy to not collapse
Does the auto loader 22 rounds, with reloads in the same compartment? If so, no worries is dual charge ATGMs seem to be very effective at defeating ERA add ons.
until further notice ; all USSR designed tanks should be CONSIDERED "JACK-N-BOX" CAPABLE.
@@paullakowski2509 👍🤣🤣
Best part from me is 3:47. Highest throw with Orc tank turret.
Russian new space program is going according to the plan
Exactly like that Abrams that some jihadists with sandals destroyed in iraq
You didnt just do the embarrassing popping turret joke but repeated it multiple times in this thread.
@@humanbean392 Yeah like how abrams vaporize t72s in desert storm and how it got obliterated by homemade ATGMS in Syria.
@@humanbean392 ONLY COUPLE COMPARED TO HOW MANY, >1600 JACK N BOX TANKS?
Still doesn't have an APS which should be requirement in any army that wants to use tanks effectively. All the tanks that lack it are in danger of being easily destroyed by advanced ATGMs. Sure ERA will reliably defeat shitty heat missiles without tandem warhead like the AT-4 and RPG-7s. But anything more advanced is known to punch through ERA especially missiles with big warheads.
Belarus is still far behind from being a capable Conventional Force.
@@diligentone-six2688 doesn't hurt to start reforming and making changes. If they want to be anything but laughing stock that is.
ALL ERA / APS tanks requires greatly improved training to work with infantry combat teams, in order to remain efficient . That costs lots and lots money most countries don't want to worry about.
Passive protection isnt exactly 100 my dude. Todays ATGM's make short work of almost all protection systems. Tank combat isnt like it was 20 years ago. The Russians just didn't get the memo. They are basically more of a mobile artillery and support weapon to be used at long range for troop support. Even the Abrams have been rekt in the middle east as well as the leopard a2 from old Soviet kornet missles. Both sides of the isle are arguing about tank defense but fail to understand the Modern battlefield. Im not saying you shouldn't bother with passive protection,but its not exactly the way todays role plays out for tanks. We're only seeing what was predicted decades ago. Eventually a modern conflict would show how tanks aren't meant to be front runners anymore. The ATGM is so common that shooting at a tank with passive protection might as well be as common as shooting at it with a bullet. May take few but it will get the job done eventually. Plus the biggest issue with passive protection is a threat to the infantry around the tank.
APS isn't a fool-proof solution. Against a modern military, it's a liability and not a defensive tool. APS functions by using high-frequency radar to see if incoming missiles or tank rounds are coming at it. This radar is like ringing a giant dinner bell to anti-radiation missiles fired by aircraft or ground launchers from tens to hundreds of miles away. When you're fighting separatists or terrorists in sandles and mud huts, it's great. Against a near-peer threat, you're going to mostly be turning them off unless your side has complete air superiority to make eating a HARM far less of a chance. Even if the APS engages such missiles successfully, these missiles usually have many times more explosive mass than an ATGM or tens of times more than large artillery shells. The explosion above a tank with one of these missiles would end up killing the crew inside and detonating ammo through explosive overpressure.
Looks like the package from the t80bvm put into a t72 instead of a t80 XD
strongly recommend a video on the upgraded T-72B Ajeya Mk2 main battle tank used by the Indian Army since 1990 . . . the T-72B Ajeya Mk2 suspension has been raised & incorporates a heavy duty 5.0 in. suspension lift in the interest of better off road performance . . . all upgraded T-72B Ajeya Mk2 feature all round 360° deg active protection system . . .
No one should be afraid of Belarus.
Of course they are as they are backed by a nuclear power you goof.
Nice
“This tank isnt what it first appears to be” Well that’s a relief, because it appears to want to be a T-80BVM. Cant imagine a T-72 will fill the role and better than a T-72B3 would.
Poland is buying Abrams and K2’s (with technology and plan to make new even better version) Meanwhile in Belarus :
K2 isn’t really better in terms of armor. I would say it’s even worse.
@@mba2808 I wrote about new version. It’s include better armor too.
@@Tobi9753 It doesn't exist, it is a model. The chances that Polish industry will be able to make it are 0%.
@@mba2808 😂😂 Ok. Another expert worth 1$. Have you better knowledge than our ministry of defense ? Are you crazy ?
@@Tobi9753 If you mean Polish defence ministry then - probably yes. Poland has no real heavy industry, and the last tanks were made in 90s, They are called PT-91 are terrible, possibly even worse than original T-72M1. Because Poland couldn't design an engine, they used old soviet engine(v46-6), and made cylinders larger. Result? Every 25 kilometers there was a problem with an engine, or transmission. The fire control system also had problems. There was no good stabilisation, so tank still cannot shoot while driving. Reactive armor is also kontakt-1 level. Nowadays Poland didn't design anything really. Rosomak is licensed, Borsuk is still in development, and the reports really vary. Some say it's bad, some say it's good. Now how do you think, Poland will be able to produce Hyundai Doosan engines, and S&T transmission, when even Koreans had a big problem with these? Polish MoD can say anything, especially that elections are coming. They are constantly talking about 300k military army, but don't talk about how terrible demographics are, about soon to be 20% inflation rate, and how young man are not interested in military service(over 60% of people in officer schools are women).
So, same same, but different?
Nlaw and javs are waving
They won't send or even invade Ukraine first of all. Second of all Lukashenko fears that is he invades it will end bad for his presidency because they will be an uprising and Belarus is not experienced with uprisings and Russia helped with their protest and wouldn't help them
DPR and LPR love the javelin and NLAW great at destroying Ukrainian tank’s
I saw vid where the box where the reactive explosive should be but instead had two rubber strips and I wounder does this tank have the same thing
As James May would say: "Woooow"
Perhaps I’m out of the loop with modern tank operation. But is it normal for so much dirt to be spit out of the front of the tracks? Presumably you would want it to shake off during travel and not drag it all the way through. Idk, maybe that is just what this type of tank is like in action. But it just seems like a possible problem, especially for mud.
3:50 holy moly look at the turret go flying up into the sky lmfao
once again... what is the song you put in the vid background! i want it so bad!! pls pls pls tell me
T-72BM2 looks beautiful, idk if it get the same performance as T-72B3M of russia, Ofc T-72 Was used Poorly by its users, but if someone use this in the right way its a machine
I’m like 100% percent sure if it was American crews maning the equipment Russian has in Ukraine they’d already be at Kiev
@@mrmacias4217 What makes you so sure, given that sustained combined arms warfare on the scale seen in Ukraine has US mercenaries shitting their pants?
@@mrmacias4217 lol
@@mrmacias4217 about that idk America haven't fight any equivalent enemy
I don't think that T72BM2 has a new engine like T72B3 2016, but unlike this it has a second engine which B3 does not have.
If they have a Javelin or NLAW, its nothing more than smoldering metal
It's called modern art
@@justmr9553 hahaha true true
They are overrated, there are better ones out there.
@@ares8866 Hmmm can you say to us the "better options" answer to that stupid statement?
@@misterputin8898 Spike, Kornet, Akeron MP, OMTAS, PARS 3 LR ... and this is answer to that stupid question.
"Igor, do you think Belarusian tank is a threat to Ukraine" "Vasilie, have you ever heard the word 'Javelin' or 'NLAW' ?"
Oh you mean the 2 overplayed weapon systems making no difference in Ukraine even going as far as making Russians laugh and make fun of how bad they are?
@@Hi_Im_Kalash ask Ruzzki tank crew how much they are laughing... LOL
@@bobsnabby2298 Clearly didn’t read what I said if you say that. You Pro Ukrainians have no IQ I swear, weird you support the nation that will kill you for such mental problems lmao.
Could you please make a review of Azerbaijani modification of t72 (T-72 Aslan) please?
"The area around the towing hook", how could you hit that in an engagement 2-4 km away? lol
Any thoughts on why countries fielding T-72's don't go for more substantial upgrades/changes like the Terminators? Seems to me with such a low profile, and relative weight, they could upgrade them to fat Challenger-like composite coverage, or move to a powerpack arrangement for the rear...
If you want to make that big of a change to a tank it would only take a bit more effort to build a new tank. Or at least that's my thought.
@@generalvictorironraven.1347 Most countries don't have the heavy industry required to make all new chassis, but new turrets and engines are feasible
@@powkung45 I suppose so. If they are buying t72 thanks ist probably because they can't get anything better or produce anything themselves.
I think saying it's pointless and nothing is achieved is pretty hyperbolic, the capabilities of the tank are definitely improved over the more numerous T-72B which this seems to be a modernization of. As for the ERA I think what they did was use two Kontakt 5 plates sandwiched together which kinda does the same thing as Relikt. Because both designs would have two flyer plates to degrade APFSDS and HEAT munitions.
The mispronounciation of Viktar Khrenin is funny and that's why: Khrenin surname is derived from the word "khren", which is horseradish, and an euphemism for "dick" However, "Khiernin" would be a derivative from "khier", which is literally a "dick" Due to his role in preserving Lukashenka's regime, this is well-earned. Dick in any case.
they may slap anything they want onto it but the turret is still going to fly high.... looks nice though
A tank is a tank and you should always be afraid of it
T-72 is a running joke
If your in a car yes
@@napobg6842 say that again when you are facing down one
@@yarnickgoovaerts Give me a Javelin and I will even laugh at that joke
First time I ever hear someone pronounce Belarus like that.
Let's be honest, convenience and budget were the only things this model achieved of its goals
Still awaiting a video about the destroyed T-80Um2
It probably was destroyed by artillery. Doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Wow a Tank destroyed, never heard of that, I thought tanks were invincible???
@@Hi_Im_Kalash same lol. But everyone is talking about the T-90M being destroyed.. the T-80UM2 would be more interesting to see analized since theres only 1 of it
@@icetea8946 tank is tank
@@Hi_Im_Kalash in the case of the T-80um2 is exceptional from other russian tanks because it borrows traditional western tank design
So many variant of the T(urretlaunchvehicle)-72. I can't keep them straight in my memory.
So here's a question: If you could only have one, what would be best, the CITV or ERA on a T72?
CITV is a more important upgrade.
@@travistucker1033 suppose yes, but is it cost effective? Is it worth spending that amount of money on tanks with such low survivability?
@@MatoVuc survivability depends on who gets the spot first. They went for the cheapest upgrade they could
@@travistucker1033 in a duel, maybe, but not in modern war. No amount of first spotting will save you if you are surrounded by so many things that can, want to and will kill you, from infantry with AT weapons, to IFVs with ATGMs, to other tanks, to drone spotted artillery, to helicopters and aircraft. If Ukraine has proven anything, it's that massive cassualties are a feature of modern warfare, not the result of a fuck up. Given that that is so, is it worth speding millions for a 20% improvement in capability that's going to end up burning just the same?
@@MatoVuc no amount of ERA will save you from a javelin or nlaw, that particular problem can only be solved by effective infantry/armor coordination and increased situational awareness. It sounds like you're trying to argue that the tank itself is obsolete?
Belarus specializes on military optics and fire control systems, so I expect them to be upgraded.
It probably fires carrots as well.
No, still the same design problem. That turret will go flying.
Javelin-My time has come AGAIN!
DPR captured all the javelins
Time to miss a simple moving target cause I’m a pos with a fake combat history fabricated by the US DOD aka the Javelin
Mh don't realy know if it would mean nothing. Better protection against tandem would increase the survivability.
Would this be a way to knock out tanks with ERA? Two RPG rounds or similar in quick succession before they can react. Take out ERA and then punch through armour?
It works in theory but placing 2 RPG shots at the EXACT same brick of ERA must be insanely hard. Also the armor beneath the ERA brick must be weak enough to be defeated by an RPG. Hull side and Turret sides are probably weak enough
@@Welterino multiple then
i hope, that there would be a t72 variant for me!
sounds like a party!!!!!!😁😀🥳🎉
Ho no it's... Another upgrade of a T-72... Wow so scaary, it's not like even t-90 wich are supposed to be the biggest upgrade to that platform are still kinda meh. Still no panoramic sight, yee yee ass thermal sight, knock off relikt, nothing even close to an active protection system (soft kill or hard kill), same old gun, same old engine, same old hull. Honestly the mass produced weapons of the soviet era are hoplessly outdated at this point, from AK to T-72 from Msta-s su-27. The point of those systems was that they were on the same technologycal plateau as western weapons, just one step inferior but produced in riddicolous quantities and cheaply, and yes i agree that in the '70s the Soviet Union was scary as fuck and theyr tactics might have worked and they could have wan in an all out conventional war. Today however Russia is basically two generations behind and even the upsides of high quantity and low cost of the systems it operates are becoming meaningless because of how ineffective they are. While the west is putting thermal optics and red dots/acogs on every rifle and is working on even having ballistic computers on them, Russia fields a sub-par modernization of the ak-74m with iron sights. While the west is working on updating Abrams the Leopard and Challenger with active protection systems and even starting to make preoare the replacement of those, the Russians are fielding T-72 without even appropriate ERA and never got close to mass produce the T-14, as far as i know there might be less than 20 protoypes with half in operational conditions. While the west is using pzh-2000, k9 thunder, himars, m270 and is planning to move to an ever more hi-tech version of missiles and shells, Russia needs to use 6000 shells every day to achieve something in Ukraine and can't get even close to develop Koalitsya or uragan 1m. While the west is buying 5th gen F35 jets in bulk and is starting to develop 6th gen fighters, Russia is struggling to field 4th gen su-34 and can't produce more than a couple su-57 ( and they sill have the wrong engine). The only thing that seems modern is the S-400 truimf, but it's struggling againist Bayraktar drones, so how effective would it actually be againist an F-35? How long before NATO develops a new SAM system with next gen data-link, electronic warfare capabilities and lasers that will stop/destroy every Russian flying asset? Let's not forget the actual strongest weapon NATO has: OPEN MARKET AND FREE TRADE!! Meanwhile the sanctionned Russia might collapse in 2 years for banckrupcy accroding to YALE!!
You wrote all that like anyone gives a shit?
Damn that makes a lot of sense. I mean the T90 is just a T72UB but because after the gulf war Russia or then soviet union was afraid noone would buy it. The S400 is a joke of a sam. The manufacturer stated that it can counter M31 missiles and it clearly is not able to do that.
@Работаем, брат! Of course Russia fan boy tries to make it look better. S400 failed to see a F15 for 3 days in Syria. It failed to counter M31.. One of the reasons it was built. The only thing that the S400 ever hit was itself
Just more flying turrets
this will be the equivalent of the T-14, looks awesome on paper and with 5 trial models, but impossible to produce due to lack of money.
One think that I really don't like in the Russian thanks is that the most effective way to give the more protection is using ERA. However I think I won't tell any secret when I say the ERA is stand for EXPLOSIVE Reactive Armor which mean the escort infantry which is ptotecting the tanks againt enemy infantry and it's antitank weapons is not an option...
Belarus would definitely need something like Rheinmetall....oh wait...
What's the outro music on this vid?
Haha Poland says “hold my beer”
Agreed
The T-72 has set records for turret launch
I would think and hope their president would stay out of this messy situation
I love u ALL God bless you ALL
Red what is up with Serbian M84AS2 tanks?
Do the tank tops pop off?
At least it got significantly better ERA coverage
According to Dr MANFRED HELD [ERA inventor], unless it uses NERA it will not improve the protection!
@@paullakowski2509 I mean sometimes like the Abrams uses depleted uranium is an armor so it’s kind of matters on what armor is used more proficiently
@@paullakowski2509 for example of the Abrams thing for most of its existence did not use explosive reactive armor
Why didnt you report on the Abrams being captured?
Meanwhile, Javelin said: "I seeeee yooouuuu~"
Too bad the DPR captured all the javelins lol
@Работаем, брат! Found the russian bot
@Работаем, брат! I dont like biden, he is a mummy. I have no idea why the US keeps electing people who have like 3 years left to live
@Работаем, брат! here we go with the russophobia, look I dont care what nationality you are, but if you are actively supporting the rape, torture, and mass genocide of a people group, then you are not someone I wish to be friends with. It just so happens that the people doing that awful shit in the videos are russians.
ooh. shiver me timbers.
Couldn’t the commander use gunners Thermal Sight? Also isn’t there ERA on the roof of the tank.
I can just imagine the size of the T-72's Wikipedia page.
What is the max altitude of the turret?
You know leopard tanks also have the turret when hit with a missile, it has been proven in Syria by the Turkish army
My bet is that additional panels are fake pieces of metal without any explosives inside... Actualy era explosives are common thing to steal in militaries with high corruption/criminal risks, so when analyzing combat footage from russian wars you never know if "boxes" on tanks are real era or just hollow mockup.
In all do reality it’s all about the Tank crews abilities not really about the tank itself
3:14 did abrams have 3 sights?
2, but with remote controlled machine gun, are 3
THE OLD OUTROOOOOO
Should we talk about steven seagal's carrot? ;)
Ukrainian farmers: they are releasing a new content pack for tractor game!
I thought that corny meme was back in march when people thought Ukraine was winning lol
@@mrmacias4217 tractors keep tractoring.
@@jayburn00 🤓🤓🤓
No, they're still quaking in their boots waiting for the BMPT Terminator Wunderwuffe
Honest question, what are they afraid of?
Why is it so hard for the them to add a CITV and a RCWS
Really fucking expensive
@@mrmacias4217 well that is one of the reasons but haven't they learned anything from the conflict happening at their neighbour
@@MDSR17455 I think after this war Russia will probably change they’re entire military lol
@@mrmacias4217 yeah the change of doctrine and I hope they restructure their military and train All their branches on Combined Arms. From what we see in Ukraine the branches of the Russian Arm Forces are having a bad time working together coupled with vehicles that date to the soviet era that lack the necessary Protection and modern weaponry also the the horrible mobility of the Soviet Vehicles ( Engine horsepower, Reverse Speed and not able to turn on the spot). I hope also they fix their Logistics in all of their Battalion Tactical Group (BTG) and re equip their soldiers with the necessary equipment and modern weapons. Oh yeah this all can be done if the Corruption in the Russian Defence industry, Government and Arm Forces is stop and not use as a weapon by the government to ensure the people who is involved stay loyal to the government
Do you think that Abrams would survive Ukraine? With all the Javelins, Kornets, Stigma P, Spike, land mines, Krasnopol etc
Ukraine should not be afraid or Never been afraid of these Old Soviet Era T72 Tanks in which Belarus have and upgrade to a T72EM2 Tanks . Because Ukraine still have numbers of these T72 Tanks on their arsenal and while others have been captured and destroyed by there forces since the start of the invasion . Beside Ukraine knew exactly the Strength and Weakness of the Old Soviet era T72 Tanks .
I dont think they have that many left. They barelly have any machinery. The war is raging for 5 months already and rockets are falling on depots/units. They have "new ones" send by Poland but very little of their own.
Javelin & Nlaw are waiting
So thats one tank done - what about the others
Ukraine does not need to be scared at all its a slightly upgraded 72
Question: If an opposing force shot a tanks ERA with .50 cal machine gun fire, would it explode all of the ERA and thus open it to attack by less effective RPG ? A complex and dangerous maneuver to be sure.....but....would it work? And, would the exploding ERA damage or destroy the tank's external sights and sensors?
It may be work on older ERA but modern ERA not gonna explode by small caliber round
ERA doesn't chain explode. You can indeed damage block by constant fire from heavy machine gun or autocannon in order to open a space to passive armour of vehicle, but you would be spotted right away and put yourself in danger
I'm not good at explain it myself but this guy made a very good vid about that so here the link: kzhead.info/sun/nqdpl8pvpomIiI0/bejne.html In short there are few reason why they won't explode: - The explosive contents in ERA only explode under extreme pressure such as being hit with >100mm apfsds that usually travel at >1500m/s or the "jet" of HEAT. Even autocannons round do not have that much pressure the detonate ERA. - To be effective against kinetic energy projectiles, ERA must use much thicker and heavier plates. Those plates are too thick to be penetrated by HMG fire such as .50 or 12.7mm.
I think ERA's plating in generally meant to prevent damage by small arms fire, including .50 cal, but the explosive could also be designed to not go off unless enough pressure or energy was applied to make it go off, which it probably is. The E in ERA is much more resilient than something like tannerite. That said maybe an autocannon could physically damage the ERA enough to reduce effectiveness.
era is not going to explode just because it got hit by some "small" bullets or fragments. If it would be possible either nobody would use it or everybody would have 50cal mounted on their tanks to defeat era