We see new smartphones releasing all the time. But we're starting to hit a plateau in progress. Here's why I won't upgrade my work phone.
We see new smartphones releasing all the time. But we're starting to hit a plateau in progress. Here's why I won't upgrade my work phone.
So, secretly this is a S21 FE review.
Should he not have reviewed it since it's the phone he is using? 😂
My S21 plus is better
@@IgnacioFlores.good for you? my s24 ultra is better, what's the point of your comment
😂😂
To be more precise "Is the s21 fe still worth using in 2024?" Review 😅
"Smartphones are getting good at getting old" pure poetry right there. Love the video. Couldnt agree more.
Incredible
I have my A50 phone still
Almost five years now until college
@@nathanielportillo1593 wow what a phone💪
@@nathanielportillo1593Same here. Even if the back of the phone is about to fall off, it’s still working.
"It's impressive for a phone of this age" it came out 2 years ago...
some phones are starting to get bad when it turns 2/3 yrs old
In the real world, OLD means 7-8 years old, not 2-5 yo.
@@fabricliver WDYMMMM having "years" next to a number is old
@@fabriclivermanufacturers make phones with the expectation that consumers will buy a new one at least every year or 2. after 3 years they purposefully make the phone slower and shittier to force people to buy new. so yea, anything more than 3 years is kinda "old" due to those issues
lol true, i'm rocking my 4 year old redmi
I recently picked up a Motorola G Play 2023 for $99.99 at Best Buy. I had about $40 on a gift card, so about $60 total. It's a phone. It does what I need it to do, which isn't anything special. "Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate to buy shit we don't need." - Tyler Durden
Ur a W
Just picked up the g power 2023 for $200 at Target myself. Can be had for like $100 with some prepaid carriers and absolutely does everything I need it to.
I got an a 14 for 150$
@@feddemethamkaastostihow???
I took a risk on an unlocked 'Umidigi' smartphone from AliExpress. Paid $150 total for 64 64GB modal with an additional 256GB SD card. It's been a year and a half and I'm satisfied. As a bonus, it works beautifully with emulators. I basically have a portable Dreamcast, PS1, and PSP.
My main reason for refusing to upgrade is the ridiculous weight and non-ergonomic designs of new flagships.
Agreed. And the awful camera cut outs.
Phones these days just can't lie flat wtf
I have an S21 ultra. I can tell you that after 3 years of heavy use, I now have carpal tunnel syndrome. I did not ever have it before I got this phone.
@poopyab01 The weight of new flagships contributes to them feeling dense and premium though
You can try Zenfone 10
Still rocking a Galaxy Note 9. Does everything I want it to, is fast enough, takes decent photos, has wireless charging, and rocks a 1440p AMOLED. Not much else that I need.
I'm using this too but man the curved edges are a pain inn the ass, I've broken the front twice because if this shit. and the rear glas also jas seen some shit. I'm planning to buy an Iphone 13 next: just to see what apple has to offer first hand. than I'll probably settle with s23 base model.
Same here..although mins is slowing down. I don't want to upgrade because I really feel this is the last phone with no compromises. I'll definitely hold on for another 2 years. I think a factory reset might put it back at top shape.
@@mehmetgurdal My rear glass cracked too and I replaced it myself for 2$. It's been 6 years but my front glass is still doing alright despite a few drops. We'll see if that changes anytime soon...
@@mehmetgurdalCurved edges are kind of going awaybatvthis point. Current gen Samsung has left it aside
Had that phone too, the curved edges and 60hz screen are pretty noticeable differences once you upgrade.
My iPhone 6S still works like a goddamn charm and I don't plan to update it unless it stops doing so. Eight years strong and about to turn 9 this year. If it makes it to 10 I'm gonna honorably retire him.
yeah but thats a iphone , not android , android is unusable if 8yo
I disagree, Using 6 year old redmi note 5 pro , that costed me around Usd200
@@Tetrathegod debatable. Still depends on the user.
@@warbot2544 note 5 pro sucks in 2024
Still using that note 7
Samsung Galaxy S10 here. I haven't upgraded my phone in many years. Still works just fine. Decent camera, decent battery. 1TB storage + 1TB microSD. Unless I break it or lose it or it gets stolen, I am not upgrading.
I loved my s10 until the charging port was giving me problems
I would love to keep the same device for more than 3+ years but they become so unreliable most of the time. My phone ended up dying out of nowhere due to hardware issues from long time use. I wish I had upgraded the phone before it completely died and I lost everything.
I still use my 2018 Samsung Galaxy S9, but it's definitely showing it's age. It takes forever to open the camera app and start recording, and I'm havng trouble with phonecalls and sending texts. I'm "upgrading" to the 2021 iPhone 13 mini, but I'm also keeping my Samsung Galaxy S9 for using around the house. I'm tempted to get a 2020 Samsung Galaxy S20, but it only has one more year of quarterly security updates, and then nothing. So even though it could last a long time, it will eventually have issues supporting apps, just as is currently the case with my Samsung Galaxy S9.
lol anyone can use a flagship for years
@@shashwatjange3802 intelligence chases you but you are faster...
I got you all beat... I went from an S8 to a S24 Ultra. Now that's an upgrade! I do miss how insanely light and thin the S8 was.
Hold on, I will beat your record. I'm still holding my note 20 ultra, not going to upgrade anytime soon 😏
S24 ultra is massive. S23u or S22u was better
S8 had the best form factor period
So why didn't you get regular s24 if you like thin and light
I cant imagine going to that big of a size difference. I just went from an S9 to an S20 Plus and its fairly uncomfortable to me (i only got Plus because i bought it off my friend)
I honestly never understood the reason why people upgrade phones every year even now but still use 5/6 year old laptops
clout
To be honest, today computers last a lot longer than they used to before they get obsolete. Maybe phones too, but they have ALWAYS gone obsolete quite sooner than computers. That said, upgrading every year is pointless and an aberration. Even every other year is too little life to be got from a phone.
They are driven by commercials and they have their phones from a contract with their mobile carriers. Those are the major reasons I see why people constantly upgrade.
It's cheaper if you maintain a carriers free upgrade promo
@@BilisNegraI can still use my 15 year old laptop if i want to. It also runs well, not too great, but definitely well
Sophie Wilson the inventor of the ARM instruction was asked at the end of a lecture on improvements in ARM processors whether people should change their phones regularly to take advantage of the features that she had been talking about. She answered no. She said that you would never use all of that extra performance and so should not upgrade your phone until you stopped getting security updates.
Can you put a link for the video or article here if possible?
@@Aryan-yg2qq in 2020 Sophie Wilson gave a number of almost identical lectures entitled the future of microprocessors. I have not yet found the one in which she gave this answer in a question and answer section at the end of the lecture.
@@Aryan-yg2qq here is one of the lectures. I will carry on trying to find Sophie’s response to the question “is there any point in upgrading the arm processor in your phone by buying a new phone” at the end of one of these lectures. kzhead.info/sun/m9iRpsqZe3yFq3A/bejne.htmlsi=k1qmcuHIDV7Uydse
S10e haver here, got this phone used last year and it's still going strong
I use an LG G8 , Snapdragon 855 is still powerful. LG's HDR Cine-Effect video recording is simply AMAZING
6 years?
I also still have mine, I recently bought the Galaxy A54, but I still have my LG G8, now as a secondary smartphone.
bruh LG doesn't even make phones anymore.
Criminally underrated gem 💎
How is the battery holding up?
Dude I just got myself a S21 FE and I was like 'whaaaat lol' when you mentioned it. This phone still rocks!
what variant are you using? mine is exynos and i have to be honest, the biggest gripe is the battery life
Exynos or the Snapdragon? Mine is Exynos back in my region Malaysia
@@monkeyglory2905 yep same as mine. The battery not doing so well eventho we have 25w adapter
@MhmmdA3RI bro my s21 fe when it heats up sometimes the super fast charging ain't working. Sometimes i have to put my phone down to a ceramic floor so it won't heat much 😂 btw, hope you have a nice food at sahur
@@monkeyglory2905 alhamdulillah bro already get my sahoor just now. Yaa me too sometimes the super fast charging wont working tho and i need to unplug and plug it back again just to make sure got super fast charging or not🤣. Overall just fine. But im still considered to switch from S21FE to S23 base model, the compact one and great SD8G2. Would be a good switch?
Pixel 3 here. No complains. Great photos, super light and the right size 5.5"
I remember the days I begged a new phone for every birthday, and my parents would pay for like half of it, and even when it came out of my savings, I would be happy to replace it. It was a joy to set up a new phone for me. Now my phone, Galaxy A72, kind of broke down (doesn't charge with any cable), and I am devastated (I was also on vacation in a small village where I knew no one, so that was strassful). I was so happy with this phone, I even for the first time in my life went to a repair shop, and they couldn't help. I even reset it hoping it was some kind of software bug, losing everything because of my misunderstanding with backups. I still don't want to replace it, even now that it basically a defective new phone with no info or settings I had for so long. Two and a half years, and no joy to replace it at all. I would have been happy to keep it for 2 or 3 more years until my OS becomes outdated enough to run into problems with casual app downloads. I still hope against hope that it will start working and it will only ever stay an unpleasant memory of how I wiped everything for nothing.
That's like a sweet story. Keep this cherished phone.
It was most probably a charging port issue, if a shop had just replaced the charging board, your phone would have gone on perfectly.
dont give up and trow it away. The data is still on there. You just need to find a good repair shop online.
I plan on keeping my current phone for the longest amount of time I've ever had a phone. The one after that will be even longer.
Me too
Take it easy
Same here. These things are far too expensive to just change it whenever you want. I am not spending this much money again and i hope this thing lasts 5 years or more.
Me too! I have a 5 years old Huawei Mate 20 lite
I planned on doing so , but I damaged it :(. Bought on May 2023 Damaged in 2024 :(
Mine is a OnePlus 7 from 2019. About to be 5 years. Works great, used to work even better before the last update OnePlus forcefully upgraded me to when I went to have the battery replaced, which is shitty considering they took my phone for 10 days and returned it to me without replacing the battery because the device was "End of Life", this was about a year ago. Had a third party battery put in and works great. Forced Obsolescence should not be allowed by these companies who use shady tactics to make user experience worse to "extend the life of the device" or "protect the environment".
i got a oneplus 6 and the only thing letting me down is the battery life and maybe a 120hz panel would be nice.
Why not downgrade your phone?
Even I'm having my OnePlus 7 still as a secondary device now 🙌🏻. Pure oxygen OS is the best thing. It still works as it used to.
OnePlus 5 still rocks to this day, even though it's quite old, the snapdragon 835 is really good and I can play any game without any problems. The problems is the battery but that's because it's the original one
I got the Oneplus 6T like 2 months after it's release and still using it up til today. The battery isn't what it used to be but I also do somewhat heavy gaming more now than before and the volume buttons are of no use (thank god for volume apps). But I'm looking to upgrade with the Oneplus 12 or the next flagship from Oneplus.
Still using a Note10+ that I bought on it's launch yr and has served me well to this day doing what I need it to do, won't be upgrading until it breaks and beyond repair
I seldom comment but your video is a breath of fresh air. Have had a Oneplus 7 pro since launch as my Android device (switched to iPhone 14 from iPhone 7 last year). Got it's battery replaced a year back and it has never been given an issue to me. I briefly switched to a S21 Fe lying at the house last month and even though I loved the experience, letting go of the Oneplus 7 pro was a little too much for me.
Proud owner of S10e since May 1, 2019!
do you have any problem lagging, stuttering and stuff like that? Because I want to buy a samsung s24 now, and i wounder if it would still perform well in 4-5 years. Thanks!
@@darkopesevski9829 To this point, I haven't had any major issues related to lag. Battery life is shorter than before but I am always carrying a cable with me.
I have s10. S10 series was the best..
@@Gurparvan_Singh_Bhullar 100% I have the S10 right here too brotha the S10 series were truly the best
Same here, S10e still going strong!
There are a ton of people still rocking their old LG Devices like the V60.
I still use the v60 and I also have a OnePlus 5 for backup and it still runs pretty fast too. Also have my mom's old pixel 2. Also a snapdragon 835 and it works fine other than having a bad battery.
I wanted the V60, but I found a shop selling G8X's that were practically brand new for like $100, so I ended up getting that instead... LG was so awesome and the V series was so ahead of it's time. Them leaving the market really sucks :/ (I wish they kept the replaceable battery even after the V20 though)
I am one of them using older LG device, a LG V50s (G8x in USA)
I'm still using my V30+ from 2016. The battery's still good. I feel enough.
I'm rocking with my LG V30 PLUS
Me watching this on my stock OnePlus 6 that I've had since 2018. It hasn't let me down yet.
i have an iphone se gen1 back in 2016 if im not mistaken and initially in 2020 i upgraded to a red magic 5g but upon reviving my iphone se (replacing the battery) ive gone to like it again. Theres just something about having a smaller phone that u can type with one hand thats appealing to me. Its just a true definition of pocketable. Phones these days are so heavy on the pockets and can be a drag.
Bought my son one at launch at a very reasonable price. Amazing phone on balance with a beautiful screen. Battery still good despite a mix of all types of charging, playing games and watching videos.
you're my childhood
I'm still using a Pixel 3a in 2024 😅 The camera is still quite good compared to most phones but the phone lags and feels quite slow in day-to-day use. I might upgrade to the pixel 8a later this year though if the price is decent
Uma coisa que torna os aparelhos lentos são os aplicativos. Fiz uma experiência, peguei os apps com versões de 2019 e instalei em um aparelho de 2019 e ele se comportou como novo! Vou guardar todos os apps do S24 ultra nas versões atuais e daqui há 5 anos farei a experiência de instalá-los novamente. Um fraterno abraço.
Same observations about my pixel 3a XL. I upgraded recently, but the pictures were still better in some ways than my OnePlus open because of Google's software. However, considering we're entering the age of "every image is AI fakery", the blurry action shots of the Open are weirdly nostalgic and comforting. I guess a "real" digital picture is the new Polaroid!
@@thewalkertalkspodcast3494I've noticed that people complain if the photos look different compared to what something like an S24U or latest iPhone capture. Those are over sharpened, over saturated social media cameras, which is a plague of modern phones. I couldn't be happier with what OnePlus is doing with Hasselblad. One of the things that really gets me is the really terrible lens flare on iPhones. But it's not an issue, it's a feature, don't forget :D Funny thing is I tried out the S24U before I got OnePlus 12, and my old Pixel 2XL took better photos than the Ultra... But I guess the "social media" approach to photos is desired nowadays.
Me too, it's still such a great phone. I still haven't seen any new phone that looks good enough for me to bother switching. I noticed that mine got slow after updating to Android 12, so I wiped it and reinstalled Android 11, and it's been perfectly fine since. Runs just as well as the day I got it. The only problems it has is the fingerprint sensor isn't as reliable as it used to be (takes a few tries sometimes), and the battery doesn't last as long, but it's still good enough for me. I'm hoping I can keep it another 2-3 years.
Consider installing custom firmware, but beware of play integrity, if you use phone to pay.
Using a LG V50 from 2019, actually purchased a second refurbished one for $100. No camera bump. Quad DAC Headphone jack SD Card Smaller size $100
Still using my Galaxy Note 10+ I bought at release in 2019. Aside from my Spen battery being dead, and needing to replace my phones battery for all day performance, it's still holding up pretty well, specially since it has 12GB of ram, more than many phones have even today. I'm thinking of replacing it next year, to get neat features I don't have such as refresh rates over 60hz, folding screens, 5G, and better cameras. But unless it breaks or there's a great deal for a Galaxy Fold, I'm in no rush to replace it.
I loved my note 10+ and would still have it if Ashurion hadnt replaced it with a note 20.
lol anyone can use a flagship for years
S10e (snapdragon) user here . Still going okay. Feel like can use it for another year.
Best phone so far 🤞🏽 resold the Samsung 20 FE and turned back to my S10e
Same but the Exynos version, only the battery is slowing down But easily my favorite phone I've had
I had to change mine because the battery was not working anymore and being in Senegal I didn't find the spare part. To this day I think it's the single best form factor in my opinion, one that works for me. I know the S24 is not that much bigger but I still think the S10E hit the sweetspot for my needs.
@@samuelschonenberger same as you. Only the battery has been a bit meh in the last year, but I don't feel the need to replace it anytime soon
Year? I'm keeping my Exynos one for at least 3 if nothing proper arrives that makes me seriously want to get a new one. Kept an Xperia L for 8 years, then a Z5 Compact that lasted me 1 year because of it being an Aliexpress rebuild. I see no reason to downgrade to something with that stupid no headphone jack and SD slot BS or something annoyingly enormous.
I've been using my Xiaomi Mi 9T since May 2020, and it still holds up really well. Granted, the battery has degraded over that period, but given my fairly limited daily use, it's still good enough to last me for a day. One of my favourite features is the clean display with no selfie camera hole punch since it's one of those phones that had it motorized, and since there's no phone with a clean screen on the market anymore, I don't plan on upgrading it any time soon. Also, the later I upgrade, the better the phone that's going to accompany me for the next few years. :)
I am using the same one , I had changed my battery couple of weeks ago from an mi authorised service centre it costed me 1050rs but it was worth. Easily getting 9hr + screenontime. Now on EvoX Android 14. Ditch Miui and install some other rom , performance is top notch.
Same, I have mine since Oct 2019 and it's still as good as new.
I still have that phone. Super underrated, love the pop up camera
Also had that phone since 2019, sadly I broke my display so I upgraded to the Xiaomi 13t. It still felt good to use and without it breaking and the worsening battery I would have kept it, but I got the occasion to buy a newer one and so I did. Also the 4-5 years of updates and the new HyperOS do feel good and I will use it for atleast 5-7 years again, just like the Mi 9T. I do miss the front camera, sadly this design of a camera that just drives out isn´t really available.
Sony still makes phones without any screen cutouts, just small bezels akin to Samsung's phones before they got the holepunch. I'm still digging the Xperia 5ii I've been using for 3 years, no major complaints and no reason to upgrade.
There are no real reasons for users to buy new phones & hence the companies are doing their bit to make sure we do. Not just the marketing campaigns, but also the software updates that slow down the phone, use of tech which makes repairs unviable or very difficult if not impossible..
I'm still using an S5 that I purchased second hand a number of years ago. It has fancy features like a headphone jack and back that easily pops off so I can replace the battery and other things with ease. In fact I invested in a new battery a couple of years back for ~ $12USD that can still give me up to 2 days between charges. I also work in the trades and its been dropped many times from heights onto concrete but still works just fine. Dont make 'em like they used too :P
Let me guess, Custom ROM? :P
@@aleksandersats9577 Nope. All origional 😆
@@shagsheep8832 I would recommend doing a custom ROM
I remember when I used to buy a new iPhone every year, like an obedient consumer drone. Then I got bored and switched to Android. Now I only get a new phone about every 3 years. I thought I was just getting older and didn't care as much, but your explanation really made sense to me.
Same here
tbh, for me it's the other way round. Apple doesn't have enough variants to make you want to change. Android on the other hand, has way too many for you to be curious 🤣
@@blurkia84 From the iphone 2G to the 6 Plus, i'd say they had some cool upgrades in design and software. But yeah, I get your point ;)
I have a 3 year old phone with SD865, it flies through everyday tasks with zero performance issues running Android 14, 6GB RAM and 128GB Ufs 3.1 storage. The battery still lasts a day, I don't play games on my phone, so it helps I guess. As mentioned in the video, the amount of innovation has platued over the last few years, while the benchmark scores of flagships are crossing 2M (Antutu), the user experience remains largely the same even on a flagship chip from 2020. Good video!
Same here 😋 I feel like the SD 865 on my phone is still just as the flagship as it was on Day 1. For my light to medium task anyway
Must be a Xiaomi
@@mahinahmed2316The 865 is still capable of running solid emulation. Most new midrange chipsets are at the same power level, the only difference is better efficiency due to smaller transistors today.
Mine is SD870, but my battery is 3/4 day
Well mine is SD 845 Poco f1.. still run good still smooth
Ive also been using the S21 FE for almost a year now, the main problem i have with it is the battery life, it barely lasts a day.
I have a S21+ and my friend has a S23 FE. Our daily experiences using both phones are virtually identical. Including in power/what it can handle apps wise, as well as camera quality. Photos taken on my phone or her phone are almost identical that I can't even tell the difference.
3 yrs on OnePlus 9 pro here. And when considering upgrading to something newer I just can't justify it to myself. This phone is everything I need really
LG V30 user here from 2019, still going smooth and fine.
Bro the quad dac headphones jack had a special place in my heart
Those LG phones are brilliant. I wish they were still making them. I think LG discontinued phones? Not sure. All I know is that I discovered an LG V60 and thought wow what a device! The dual screens! That blessed AUX port is there. Card slot storage is possible. Good cameras. Really it rivals phones now.
Same here bro, bought LG V30+ in 2018. Still iys running like a new.
@@Starry_Night_Sky7455LG's Mobile division shut down in 2020.
@@oyeeHunterVelvet 2 Pro (sold only to LG employees) showed that LG will get rid of the jack after the Lg V60/Velvet.
I'm using it too . It's a pleasing experience..and in this price no phone defeats it in camera in this price range. Apart from battery life everything is fine 🙂
saw the s23 presentation and just had to preorder the s23+, mainly due to the excellent snapdragon chip in europe, only thing missing is dual esim and ltpo display that goes down to 1hz, both not a deal breaker so switching to s24 is not worth it at all (has exynos anyway), i'll happily use this phone as long as it get's updates
I'm using OnePlus 7 Pro, i'm using this from the last 4.5 years ... 4.5 years ... And this handset is just not giving me excuse to change it. Certainly an amazing device. Everyone wants to hold something more flashy .. expensive as status symbol but one should do ask themselves a question... "Do they really need to spend such huge money especially when their existing device can serve the purpose". #Respect!
same bro, no need to upgrade for atleast next two years
Earlier oneplus devices are absolute beasts
yeps, same here OO 7 Pro and a OO 5T. The 5T isn't as fun as the 7 Pro, but the camera is really good for panoramas. With 8 gb ram, when it breaks it costs 100 euros/dollars to get a new one. And it does most what I need. Moreover it can easily be rooted and run Linux :)
Same Phone bro! that amazing screen and speakers. 12+256gb storage, android 12, and original battery costs only 25$ in India!!!
@@suhrudbangal7758 yeah, that screen is a dream, can't imagine having anything less :) :) :)
Still using S7 Edge. During Covid got into photography as a hobby and bought a proper camera. Since then, I always carry my camera everywhere I go. At this point I realized upgrading phones for their camera performance was a complete waste of time and money. Since I never liked mobile gaming, my phone is just that now, a phone, my communication device.
What camera did you get and isn’t it pain in the butt to carry heavy gear wherever you go? Plus you have to baby it…
I would be very happy to stick with the same phone each year for a long time. The issue is that I take a lot of photos and videos, so I need the best available technology each time because once a photo or video is taken, its quality will never improve. These are memories I want to preserve in the best possible quality, so I change my phone every year for a high-end model. It's not that I don't have a choice, but it's a choice I make to ensure I have the best. That way, when I'm old, I can look back at beautiful photos and videos, not ugly stuff because I didn't change my phone every year.
I'm still using my Pocophone F1 bought in Jan 2019. It's still good for my daily use although its power button's spring are broken (still can be turn on and off by pressing really hard using my nail) and the battery life is gettting shorter. I always kept the 80/40 rule (charge the battery until 80% and don't let it go down below 40%).
Galaxy A71 user here and I don't see a reason why I should "upgrade" to a device with less features like missing SD card slot, no headphone jack and no FM radio. That's ridiculous!
Exactly! I just can't see what's so great about losing essentials on a so called newer improved device.
Security patches or lack of thereof. Samsung will cease support for A71 this year.
@KrzysztofArentowicz what does that mean exactly. I've got an a71 too and don't really want to upgrade but if I have to ima get a s23fe
+1 here. I use a 2022 Motorola edge 20 lite because it has all of that. I would also include a true notification light in the requested features (or a functional always on display or something like edge notification lights in an amoled screen). I rooted to be able to use the reset led to do that. I use all of the above features daily, so only a choice of low to mid range phones is available if we look to upgrade.
Exactly! I find it so strange how people are okay with companies just removing features. I've even seen some people defending them 🤷♀
Damn man you have come for a long way with your videos. Good job mate
typing this on a one plus 7T, been using it for more than 4 years and it still works like a charm. Glad you mentioned the name, it was probably the best one plus device of all time.
7T gang
same here bruv, i think this phone is good for at least 3-4 years more
lol anyone can use a flagship for years
I've got a Pixel 6 Pro and I was just about to upgrade to the 8 Pro. After watching your video, I'm seeing sense again and have decided to keep the 6 Pro. Cheers mate!
I never comment on any of your take on tech although, I'm compelled to do so. I appreciate your practical attitude towards using an older phone as your daily driver. It's common place that many folks are still using cells 4-5 years after purchase. You don't seem swayed to upgrade to a brand new device simply because of availability. I complete concur.
This is why I got a Pixel 8. I was on the 6 and was planning on keeping it for longer, but my carrier was pushing a $10/mo (for 2 years) sale for the 8 on my already cheap as hell plan, so I couldn't resist knowing I'll have full support for it until 2030. I have a perfectly sized phone, that's fairly repairable, that will only cost me $240 to fully own, and I'll be able to enjoy future updates 7 years from now. Phones have gotten so good that the two/three-year upgrade cycle no longer needs to exist.
Which carrier?
@@DarkPa1adin Virgin
ifixit gives it 6/10.
@@jamessmith99731 I've replaced a Pixel 3 battery that took me 40 minutes, and they've rated it a 4/10. It was bulging, which popped the back off and saved me from the hassle of needing to get the tools necessary to get it off, but otherwise it was very easy. I'll change it if I have to.
I’m still holding onto the iPhone X from 2017 as I’m waiting for Apple to get rid of the notch - which they may not do for another couple of years. After 5 years, I got Apple to change the battery as it was struggling to last all day despite my low level of usage. Changing the battery didn’t make much difference, and now, 7 years later, the poor battery life is the main issue. Can I go another year or is this the year I finally cave? 😬🤳
I use the A51 which is i think 4 years old this year. i recently dropped it and it shut down it needs repairing, I don't really use my phone and I've been doing fine without it its been nearly a month. Ive been looking on Backmarket and I might consider going for the s series. I don't mind about the latest or the oldest of phones just if it does the simple stuff. But definitely agree with the point of this video. great vid!
I miss so much my Nokia 3210... That removable/replaceable one week charge battery, a case that can be easily a cheap replaceable if broken, that amazing monophonic ringtones everyone with 40 years old will remember, and that simple snake game for that boring days and situation...
someone is a german speaker probably 😀
@@shoby110 ?
@@PModesto In your comment you said "everyone with 40 years old " and this the way a german speaker will treanslate his thoughts to english and because of that I assumed you are german. I would have said "everyone in their fourties" or "everyone who is 40 years old"
@@shoby110 It's only a German who would say that in that specific way? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not German. I'm Portuguese. My English isn't perfect, i know, but It's enough to communicate.
@@PModesto possibly other languages too, but German is one of them, my comment wasn't meant to offense you in any way, your English is good. Stay safe my friend
Battery health is the number one reason for an upgrade. Mine has degraded a lot since I purchased it (iPhone 12)
Replace it
May as well upgrade, or at least get some other phone. That battery problem is only going to get worse.
Still running an S10e, every time I think of a new phone I compare it on GSM arena and the specs are always in the ball park of my old S10e so can’t change it out 😂 such a little power house with SD card slot and 3.5 jack for my plethora of headphones. Great video cheers
I'm rocking a iPhone 11. It's still performing well and receiving updates. Only the wide-view camera is starting to suck. The other to are still good enough for me though ...
What a fantastic video my dude, you are spot on about everything! Old is gold! We should only upgrade when our current phones break and even then, just replace the battery when you need and you’ll be fine for years and years. Also love the chill vibe of this video! 📱
My thoughts exactly. My only worry is the replacement battery quality. I've heard of the cheapo Chinese ones catching fire and such.
Been rocking my S20 FE since 2021 and it's still so incredibly solid. That SD card slot is such a blessing to have! 85% battery limit, power savings mode while at work, dark mode everything and just being a casual user of the generic apps has kept it in good shape
how did you check your battery limit ?
@@nipun2961there is a protect battery setting...battery can only be charged up to 85% limit...
@@nipun2961 Settings --> Battery and Device Care --> Battery --> select "protect battery"
Im thinking about getting one too. How is the battery life?
@@indurangaw8259 2 years and a half later, still pretty good. Can last about a day and a half before charging
Still rocking my OnePlus 6t, but as it inches closer to 5 years old I've begun having issues with lag, battery life, and occasional crashes (usually when listening to music for some reason). As someone who is looking to get more into photography/video, but also someone who wants a better work/life/entertainment balance, I'm debating switching to an old small phone and a real camera, or getting the newest biggest and best phone. One achieves my goal with a little less convenience but more expandability, while the other gives me the features I want but also all the temptation that comes with it. If Apple had come out with an Iphone 15 Pro Mini I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but 13 mini might work.
I'm still using an LG v60. Why change? Headphone jack, expandable storage. All good. Looking at installing a custom rom fire additional privacy.
I only upgrade when I find the exact specs I'm looking for.
What would that be ?
@@mahinahmed2316 big screen, snapdragon, lots of storage, AMOLED screen, 6 gigs or more of RAM. I'm using a Moto g stylus 2022 now, but I will get a new one eventually, in 2 years probably
@@mahinahmed2316 good example for me was the Fold 3. They finally made it waterproof and hid the selfie camera under the screen for the first time. I was basically waiting for foldables to be "ready" to try, Fold3 was the sign. Going to get 3 years out of it by the time I switch to the Fold6, I think that's plenty
I have a Galaxy S10 Plus with 12 GB of RAM and one terabyte storage MST pay and a headphone jack I will happily upgrade to a new device that has the same specs as this one but I haven't found one yet I'm starting to think that this phone is the last of his kind
@@erwincooper434MST was a highly underrated and under the radar feature that a lot of people missed.
Great video - rocking the OnePlus 7T Pro (on Android 12) for almost 5 years now. Fantastic phone. You hit the nail on the head when you said that there are no phones that make you wanna buy them instantly when they get announced. 👏
have one as well, as well as OO 5T. Both are super great. I can always charge my 5T from the 7 Pro too :)
that screen is luv! give me another screen without camera and ill buy it!!
Watching this on my OnePlus 7T thanks for the shout-out, still a great phone in 2024 IMO.
I used a Sony Ericsson Z Ultra from 2014 to 2021. Really bang for the buck. Only had the battery replaced. Phone only gave out since the on/off button cannot be replaced.
I've been a fan of Ryan's content from his own channel since a while ago. Nice to see him again in my feed.
Everyone should watch this.
I've a P40 Pro + since its release, its just fantastic and do what a phone is supposed to do, I cannot complain about it.
lol anyone can use a flagship for years
Im still running a razer phone 2. Planning on upgrading the OS and swapping the battery out for a new one. The SD845 is more than enough for my needs.. gaming, emulation and i even use it as my office work station and as a wireless internet modem (infinite data plans rock).. so why unless i break the thing, would i dane to upgrade?
I have s21 for 3 years now and I don't want to change it ❤
It was released in Jan 2022. It has been released for less than 3 years.
@@LemonCream9 no its released in 2021 I mean the regular version
@omaralkalbani1035 Yes, the regular version was released in 2022 about a month before the S22 series. Check again.
What are you talking dude, the S21 FE launched at 2022, not the S21 standard@@LemonCream9
@@ltBanshiro that is what I meant. The video was about the S21Fe and I assumed he was talking about that. I read that wrong.
I have a Galaxy s10e, albeit as a secondary phone. It's still going strong!
I have it as a main phone lol. Battery issues are the only problem.
Thats my main phone.
S10e is my favorite android phone of all time. I loved the size and color choices.
S10e was my all time favorite phone aside from the note 8
Last phone I saw that I had to have was the 11 pro max. That midnight green was a work of art. Same goes for that Note 10 with that aura glow Before that it was the S6 edge
I have the 21 FE but replaced it for 2 reasons, battery life and occasionals stutter/slowdowns/hickups, also my regional version had Exynos with some connectivity bugs on cellular. I'd try the regular S22 if I found it cheaper since it alternates with the SD version here, but I ended up picking a Xiaomi which has less bloat and doesn't have the exynos stutter.
Rightly said. I used a OnePlus 3 for almost 5 years(adding the Custom Roms to stay till Android 11 from Android 6). Recently changed its battery. Although it cannot keep up today in terms of speed, but I kept it as a camera phone, because the GCam mods+OnePlus 3's main sensor does some real magic there, still impresses me today.
I held on to my Pixel 4 XL until the Pixel 8 came out. If I wasn't already on the second battery and needing a third for the 4 XL that would have cost 300+ bucks, I would have stuck with it. With the 8 getting many more years of support, I'm planning on hanging on to it for another 7 years.
I own a Google Pixel 6a. In your opinion do you think it would be worth keeping long after it stop receiving OS/security updates?
I still have the S10e since late 2019 and still going strong
Sammy got it right on the S21 Ultra, the 888 chip is still a beast 3 years later, camera still rocks compared to the s23 Ultra! And the battery life is still amazing, hitting 5 to 6 hrs ost. I've got both Moto RaZr + 2023 & the S23 Ultra, I still favor my S21 Ultra over both the newer devices. The size, the snappy speed & overall experience still works best for me.
I just bought one in mint condition
Got mine this year with the Exynos 2100, which was the closest to the SD chip samsung has got in a while, and damn this thing still is solid, everything is fast
S21 Ultra still gets really hot. That's my issue.
such an amazing video❤ thank u I'm holding up my iphone 13 PM for another 2/3 years
The first flagship phone i’ve ever bought was the iPhone 11 in 2019 and i’ve not replaced it. It does its thing.
Currently watching on the S10e, still going strong!! Imported the US version for the Snapdragon chip and it's been great, people always compliment me on how good my pictures look even with a device this old. Battery life is a tad worse than new but to be expected and lag/slowdowns are next to non existent. Bonuses are 3.5mm jack and expandable memory which are very rare. Looking to upgrade to a S23+ when prices go down some more.
what? :D knew this voice was familiar - Ryan-Thomas? :D so freaking great to see you here! you made it - you really made it!
LG V60 owner here. While I'm not receiving more OS updates now and the USB-C port is a nightmare, this phone has been amazing. I'll probably upgrade it with the dual display case and I might get one of the newer Motorola or OnePlus phones of this year, while keeping the V60 as a secondary.
Same! Thankfully the USB-C port on mine is still working great. Looking to upgrade to a phone with better cameras tho but planning on keeping the V60 for the audio jack.
I'm on the LG G8x and I've had it for 4 years now. don't plan to upgrade any time soon cuz I love my headphone jack too much
When the iPhone 12 released I knew I wanted it. MagSafe definitely the main reason but no other iPhone since then, unless it’s the normal 15. The 24 Ultra with the flat display is another one I knew I had to get as soon as I saw it. It reminded me so greatly about my Note 4
My previous phone was a Nokia E72. I had it for 10 years, with zero issues. What happens is that service providers - the likes on Whatsapp, Facebook, KZhead, etc - deny access to their services for older devices - even though these older devices can still quite compfortably handle text, voice & video (which is all these services really provide). 2 years ago I bought a brand new, top-of-the range Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with 1Tb of memory. It's going to last me another 10 years- - even if it doesn't know it yet. I refuse to be fooled by marketing or adverts - I'm better than that.
You were using a Symbian phone as your daily driver until a couple of years ago? Wow, you were really doing really little with your phone then! Hardly any working apps since who knows when ...
I’m still rocking my iPhone 11. It does what an avg user needs photos msgs navigation emails payments!
Me too! I won’t upgrade until it’s no longer supported by Apple.
@@miguelmontoya1320The good thing about android is that you don't have to rely on the manufacturer or Google. Custom roms maintained by individuals can prolong the life for years after official support is over.
I bought a pixel 5a at launch and will keep it through its last update this August... the perfect phone imo and it's held up well for being 2.5 years old on a midrange chip
just wanted to comment that im still using my loyal S10e when you also mentioned it at the end of the video haha. i had to replace its battery once but im still very satisfied with it! also i dont want to switch to a bigger phone lol, so there aren't too many alternatives... (have been looking at the zenfone lineup but didnt make the switch yet)
Had two S21 FE's both failed after 6 months heavy usage, since I use them for my work. Purchased a S23 Ultra and had no issues ever since.
I have a Pixel 8 (the small one) but plan to hold onto it for a while, and a prime motivator for buying it was the 7 years of software updates. I'm not sure it'll last more than 5 years though, but either way it's a really good device that I expect will age well.
onto your last question in the end, the S10 was the last time when I had to buy it immediately. And I did! 5 years later I am still with this yellow S10e diamond! (yes the battery was bad, I changed it with new one and it's rocking now).
Similar to computers parts, the previous models/gens have been good enough for someone to keep for longer or even look at those as a potential purchase option in the refurbished or used market over newer phones. Using a Poco f3 for almost 3 years, perhaps the only reason i might want to change is for a cooler phone and the camera. In greece it is getting quite hot so the phone can overheat.
Same here lad, I'm rocking a Poco F3 with Pixel OS, a custom tuned gcam and couldn't be happier!
Old phones? I'm rocking a BlackBerry KeyOne (2017) for the keyboard plus it's BlackBerryness. Interesting thoughts on the subject, thanks.
still using my iphone se 2016. replaced the battery recently. perfect size for me, small, fast enough for daily usage. most of the apps still getting updates and ios 15 is still getting security updates.
I have the same phone and youtube recommended this video... And I was thinking about buying a new Galaxy, but you're right, I'll stick with this S21 Fe while it lasts. PD: I liked that line: "ask yourself if a new phone will make your life meaningfully better by doing something that your current phone simply can't".
Im rocking and s21FE as well. I dont plan on doing anytime soon. I've had it for 2 years and its still efficiency
Also not upgrading from my iPhone 13 Pro. I was on a 2-year (or even less) upgrade cycle and also switching back and forth between Android and iOS, but now fairly unimpressed with the latest new phones 🤷♂️
And iPhone 13 is the last accept sim cards
@@rickgauden, only in US
@@rickgauden eMBRACE the eSIM my guy.
@@rickgauden True, at least for the US. Fortunately, there are still slots on the German iPhones.
Samsung a54 5G, love how it has the touch id in the screen, and it runs great, good FPS, good screen color, etc etc
Amazing phone just wish it had more ai features and wireless charging
I had my A71 for four years until ATT forced me to upgrade since they were shutting off their 3G network. Even though it was a 4G phone. Still bitter about that one.
@@TheMarioMakerMaster I added wireless charging and Ai features
@@darksaga80 your not a big phone guy huh?
@@zayyo_o How did you add ai features?, I added wireless charging on my old phone
My daily driver is a 2nd hand S20 I bought from a friend for 250€ a year or so ago. It replaced my Xperia L3 which I bought months before the pandemic and which used to be more of a frustration purchase due to very personal reasons anyway but even that phone still would be plenty for my needs despite only running Android 8.1. Most software I use still runs fine, especially since I actually download most of it from F-Droid anyway. It's Google's gapps which slow down a phone and drain battery the most in my experience (safe for console emulators) and while I sure am the nerdy person who loves to tinker with all kinds of tech in some capacity, Androids (and probably iPhones on the other side too) don't change much besides shape and prices.
Been using a Oneplus 5T since 2017 . Held on to it for 7yrs , worked great for me all these years . This year it started to slow down and lots if hiccups so Just urgrqded to OnePlus 12R .
lol anyone can use a flagship for years