Will Installing Thread Inserts Be Strong Enough To Go Rallying With? | Workshop Diaries | Edd China
Will installing thread inserts to replace stripped threads in cast aluminum suspension arms actually be strong enough to go rallying with?
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Workshop Diaries - From Season 1 Episode 28 "Could this tiny tube of metal fix our broken suspension?": Does torquing up big bolts give us a nice click or another horrible bang?
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that would be splendid sir
Are they all going to be under 10 mins now? If so, will you be doing them more frequently? I feel like a lot of the world is in media pare down mode. At least I know I am. I would rather not be subscribed if you are only planning or have time to do 7:48 episodes once every 2 months. Just wondering where the channel is going.
Yep, full length please. My current viewing model is over lunch whilst working at home. A 30-45min video is perfect for me.
Muchas gracias Eddy . He visto ya de su canal Edd pierdo el tiempo de verlos y con la pregunta que le hice puede hacer un vídeo sobre el fallo de Nissan Qashqai j10 motor Nissan con cadena gasolina 1.6, 117cv, 5vl, etc modelo 2011 al 2013 con la falla de cuerpo de mariposa quiero decir este modelo porque lo llevo yo jajaja, puede otro modelos de coches que tenga esa misma falla porque aquí en España a parte del programa de televisión joyas que todavía lo están dando en DMAX todas las tardes desde hace años se aprende mucho de usted señor Edd y ahora con el canal de you tuve se aprendemos más y no solo de los coches de gama alta media y baja de muchas más cosas que son valiosas y despertando más nuestras cabezas con esos vídeos siga a si no lo deje que aprender no ocupa lugar y se lo digo que soy minusválido y mi cabeza está bloqueada hasta que a pareció en TV hasta ahora en KZhead le doy las gracias desde España a unque no se porque en KZhead no me da la opción del traductor en español pero bueno lo veo un lado bueno porque asi aprendo inglés ó porlomenos entender algo un poco gracias Eddy y a todos los que lo están diciendo en su canal se nota que tenéis aprecio a Edd y desde por eso desde la región de Murcia España a Edd y todos sus seguidores ya sea por TV y por supuesto desde p su canal de KZhead Edd gracias a todos un fuerte abrazo y otra vez siento mucho esta extensión de mi parte porque jajaja 😃 soy así gracias 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
We need more regular full length videos
Looking forward to seeing some new content Edd!
We've got lots to come! - Edd
I can't wait till this series start every friday again! :D It was something I always was looking forward to! Keep up the good work Edd!
Missing your videos Ed keep them coming they are both entertaining and informative.
More episodes please Edd. Finally got the mini out into the world of Rallying hopefully all goes well.
Very good. There has been a kit like this around for a while now for use on Vito diesel injector bolts, the thread strips from the heads. I used one recently on a friend's Freelander TD4 in Romania, although the kit was designed for the Vito, it worked perfectly in the TD4 head. Nice to see you posting again Ed
Time-serts have been very reliable in aluminum for me. Very pricey, but quality product. Clamping force using a backing flanged nut and washer is how Subaru handles aluminum arms. No threading exists inside the aluminum.
Have you ever used the time-serts for spark plug threads?
@@mrbigg7255 I have on my V-10, four different cylinders.. worked great.
Some rally heritage!
@@GT-fi4sk sweet
@@mrbigg7255 I haven't, but would absolutely try it. You just might have to shim the plug if seating depth gets closer to TDC
I had this done to some Z1000 crankcases by SEP in Kegworth back in '85 after a couple of bolts sheared off diring an engine strip. They required drilling out and I was going to attempt it myself but I'm glad I left it to the experts!👍
Great stuff edd, I've used helly coils loads of times in the past, a fantastic fix. Well done edd, I love all your workshop videos, all the best.
Hey Edd, I am glad to have found your channel. I have always lliked your manner of car workmanship.
This is just a short of the original video from a year ago what's happening with the new content edd we wanna see that range rover get finished 😂
More Range Rover action on its way, thanks for your patience.
@@eddchina Stop posting reuploads.
A great episode! As many viewer mechanics, and willing amateurs know, repairs like this don't always go 'right first time' and it's refreshing to show what really needs to happen to get something working again. Honest engineering approach as usual.
This is so true...my young son and his dad have a KZhead channel homebuilt2020 that is very similar to this. He's teaching our son how to fix and sell cars. They also do how to videos to help others fix their own cars on a budget. 👍
Thank you. You're right, it doesn't always go to plan but that's the fun of it. Glad you enjoyed it - Edd
@@eddchina they are both big Fans of yours Edd! 👍
Great video thank you 😊 Looking forward to the new content 👍
Great stuff, Edd, keep it coming!
Always learn something new, keep up the good work!
Blimey Edd! Helicoil fixings takes me back to when I was a Jaguar apprentice - 1978 to 1982. Helicoils were used in the Jaguar engine manufacturing plant at Radford in Coventry for fixing cylinder blocks & cylinder heads on the V12 engine before they were even assembled into complete engines! They always made a good repair and saved scrapping of the part. Trilobal bolts are used on many cast aluminium parts on modern day carsto save machining of the threads but as you stated, they do have their serviceability concerns. Great video & thanks for prodding my memory!
You’re welcome!
Good to see a new vid. I look forward to the other 3 videos you'll put out this year.
Thanks for filming Edd. 👍😁
Great video Ed! Looking forward to many more
Absolutely brilliant once again Edd
Well done edd, always enjoying watching your diy/ how to videos for both standard jobs but also really odd fixes like this one
Thank you, I do have a lot of odd things to fix too!
Very enjoyable explanation of these Ed ☺️🤟
Thanks Ed....good to see you back ..
I was literally thinking about what had become of you yesterday and low and behold a video shows up today!! Great news
Great man, great show 👏👏
Precision engineering is where art, science and imagination meet. Fantastique.
All the best Edd look forward to more videos.
Wow! so lovely monologue in the end of video!
This really is the top end of automotive maintenance. Way more than just assembling bits and changing out parts. This is proper artisanship and fitting. Impressive and fascinating.
Thank you, it’s the sort of stuff I wish I’d had access to when I was starting out
I didn't know anything about you since "jewels on wheels" stopped airing. Nice to see you again Ed.
a very interesting restoration of the pieces
Wow that was a wait, I hope we have some good content on its way, missed Edd and the team, been too long
Brilliant as always Edd. ❤❤❤.
Please please give us more of the range rover repair we all loved that series. 🙏🙏😁😁
Don’t worry there is still tonnes to do so there will still be tonnes more videos…
I remember when helicoils first came out, saved so much time. The old timers in my machine shop looked at them with suspicion and the work of the devil. Great see a new vid fron Edd.
I used a Time-Sert for repairing the threads in my VW Single Cab's reduction gear box(cast material)/trailing torsion arm connection. Worked great!
I’ve got my Builders tea ready for some new episodes!
Now that is a proper fix ,great stuff from You as usual!Greetings from Croatia!😎👍
Greetings to you too Croatia!
Old upload ?? 🤔🤔 Edd ??
Awesome! Great to see more content :)
A wealth of info for me. Learned what those bolts with the lop-sided shape were for. First encountered when replacing a 6.5 HP aluminum engine onto the body of a steel bodied push mower. Narragansett Bay.
I used to use a similar product years ago called Acme Keylocking Threaded Inserts. The difference was it had four wedge shaped sliding tangs that you would drive into place after seating the insert thereby locking it in place. Used them on motorcycle sparkplug holes that seemed to strip out and helicoil never seemed to work very well.
Thanks Edd! I learned something new today. That type of bolt were holding the front swaybar in place on one of my cars and of course it stripped the threads out when I removed it to replace some bushings a few years ago. Allways wondered why it was shaped like that on the end and why i couldn't fit a regular nut on it. Now I know why! I solved my problem by using a longer bolt and put a nut on the other side of the beam that the swaybar bushings mounted to.
good to see you again EDD....
Great show!
Thank you for FINALLY showing the absolute correct way to repair non ferrous threads, Time-Certs are the ONLY way to go!
It's a re upload of a old video of his
Well done Edd 👍
I am looking for a P38 RR 2.5DSE. Wish you would do more videos on these 4x4.
Clamping the part in the mill and using precision tools for the drilling and tapping seems a bit overkill but hurts nothing. Job well done!
Thanks for this upload. I need to do something similar 🤨
Love this channel.
Sorry mate, The look on your face when those threads came loose was priceless. Been there, done that. The pain was in my eyes also. Cherry fix, glad to know a better way then the wire inserts. Love the show and your whole series.
Neumatic suspension on old citroens could be cool to watch on your channel. You are a wizard !!
Love to do a old DS sometime (to keep) maybe electric…
I ripped the toe binding out of my ski at Killington in Vermont. The onsite ski repair guy put a similar heli-coil into the ski and bolted the binding back in place, in about 30 minutes. Never failed.
Steve's the man, he's got a Bridgeport! Not like the Pinnacle copy we have at work.
Having been there and done that I must say Time-serts can be a life saver. Used more Helecoils more times then time-serts but both work well in their proper place
Really interesting stuff! Had a similar issue with my bicycle crank arms. They are made of aluminium alloy and the pedals have steel bolts. Due to a design error on the pedals (lack of a stop) , I over tightened the pedals (cheap oem pedals) and after 30km of my saturday ride, the pedal stripped off the crank arm hole completely. Had to get a new full crankset, a puller and some tools to do it myself... but I would have liked to have a easier solution to that problem.
Thanks for the description - i can 'see' what happened
Cheers Edd. Stay Safe.
Used their kit on a 2003 Toyota engine to repair head bolts, although expensive was easy to use and eliminated this issue with the cylinder head opening up randomly.
Great video, Did you replace original self tapping bolt with a standard gr 8 fastner?
Edd Love your content. As working mechanical engineer in the post 16 education sector, I would recommend my students to look at your latest video. Look forward to more progress on the rusty Range Rover.
Your students will fail
Hi ed great to see your last video cannot wait unit the next one.
Amazing. Enjoy your tea😀
Glad to see a new video. no forget us. Le alegro de ver un nuevo video. no, nos olvides
What a wonderful moment (of force)
Great to see you again see you soon 🥰
Hi Edd, another very interesting video, on just how to rectify problems that mechanics have to sort out. Have you, or would you ever consider working on an old Rolls Royce, something like maybe a 1988 / 1989 Silver Spirit. I believe such cars are perhaps a little over engineered, and therefore, can throw up some real challenges to sort out. 👍.
Funnily enough I do have an old engine and box from an 80’s Shadow II, the plan was to use it to power a street legal dining room table and chairs!… …but that is still a job for another day!!
@@eddchina Hi Edd, that sounds like terrific fun. And indeed would possibly present some problems to navigate around to become road legal. One thing is for sure, with a Rolls Royce 6.75 engine under the dining room table, you’ll never be late for dinner 😆👍❤️.
You are a nice person👏hello from Rome, Italy
Perfect example of ‘tight is tight, too tight is f@cked’ 😂
Nice, i hope for more videos (more than just 1 per month) about repairing and building cars.
Ed, that first fix you showed is called a Heli-coil here in America. We use them all the time. Especially on stripped spark plug holes. BTW I loved that Bridgeport milling machine. America at its best.
Re-uploading content 👌
good job but will it last i have never liked threads into ally thanks for the video
Looking forward to see you working on the Range Rover after you get it back from being galvanized thanks for all you do for us fans Edd.
very good video
Welcome back mate
It's a re upload of a old video
I blew out a spark plug in the aluminum head of my 1968 Renault 10. I drilled it out, retapped it and inserted a helix coil. I used lots of grease to keep the aluminum shavings out of the cylinder and put grease on the end of a screwdriver to check if any shavings dropped down on top of the piston. I drove it 50,000 miles after that.
Very Good, China!
I’ve seen some scatchy things done on the trail to a suv had aluminum A-arms. That looked way better, brilliant work a spot of thread locker may be in order to seal out water. Just asking. Thanks for sharing.
You're right about the Helicoil's flex, but that occurs at a far higher point than the original aluminum provided the sizing is all correct. Having said that, Time-Serts are definitely the best thread repair there is for a host of reasons.
Thank-you.👍
Sup Edd! Hey Paul! Much love 👍❤️💜❤️💜
Keep going edd
Saludos de México 🇲🇽 mi estimado Edd .
I've seen bolts like that, I didn't realise they were a kind of self tapper.
Welcome back Edd
It's a re upload of a old video
Hey Edd, we miss you much in the spanish TV. Pleased to see you again here😉.
Does the final torque for the bolt change by suing an insert?
Where you been, miss your episodes
Edd's the best!
Wow! That hit the like button part Edd seem to have a cold and tried to cure it with helium. 😁
sounded synthetic, very weird
@@winrampen1174 It was... AI Edd China!
Edd, I have worked on new Range Rovers, and when you take out any of the rear suspension and then try to put it back with the correct torque settings on the bolts, they always strip.. Modern cars are more and more designed to be put together once. I now work on Tesla's and we are not allowed to pull them on a jig, so they are written off because of moderate damage.
Very I interesting to see the Timesert...... How about a video on all the different fix options. Would the Timesert have been stronger, if it had been installed from the rear 9f the arm, with the bolt pulling the shoulder into the alloy casting? Probably more expensive machineshop setup time.....
It probably would have been a bit stronger but the shape of the casting made things tricky.
Where have you been sir?!!? We've been worried sick!
Edd, I am glad that you have not forgotten about us and share your new interesting videos with us.
Hi Edd did you use the original tri-lobe bolt in the rear arm or a proper round one??
This is a re upload of a old video of his, check out the original video for more information
If I can't drill, tap and use an oversized bolt, I definitely recommend Time-serts over things like helicoils.
missing your weekly uploads, Edd...
Do all bolts need to go in dry? I've seen threaded holes with oil in them and I'd always imagined it would bugger up the torque wrench readings?
Interesting technology. I was using Helicoils and Twincerts in magnesium casings for helicopter engines for some 40 years. All of the threads in the magnesium casings were bare magnesium, which is much softer than aluminium, so all of the threads had Helicoil inserts, or Twincerts if the Helicoil failed. If the Twincert failed, we would bore out the hole even larger, then thread it, and screw in a threaded magnesium rod which was glued in with epoxy, then machine it flat with the surface. A hole was then drilled in the mag rod and threaded with an Helicoil. I had to do this several times in the Highlands of New Guinea when I was working up there. Be very careful machining magnesium! Keep it well lubricated!
Quite. Magnesium, oxygen and a little heat can be rather exciting. A chemist writes.
There was me thinking Neil had been happily rallying for the past however many months!