GAME SINS Everything Wrong With The Dark Pictures: Man of Medan
2019 ж. 8 Қыр.
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surprised no sins for them being barefoot on an old rusty ship
@rabid that too lol
well, it's not like the guys who took them hostage gave them the choice of putting on footwear.
And only alex and brad have some shoes on them
@@baracobin5393 Julia had something on her feet too.
@@skarnak1 yeah, but that's still no excuse to not have footwear before that.
I like saying Until Dawn was like a feature-length horror film, while Man of Medan was more of a made-for-tv film
This game is my biggest disappointment. I loved until dawn, but damn this story was predictable and boring. The last hour of this chore was jumpscare city, and felt extra tedious.
Until dawn see it in theaters Man of Medan straight to dvd
It’s an episodic horror anthology. So yeah that’s kind of the point.
@@stubbynumpkins Hopefully it doesn't get the sales to continue being one.
DoomDeathLife what a salty comment. Show me on the doll where the game quick timed you.
3:17 one sin you missed, Morse code isn’t pressed on that fast, it would just come out as gibberish.
Mr. Flitch well every fucking one is hallucinating and murdering each other
It was partially gibberish: "S.O.S. from Ourang Medan * * * We float. All officers including the captain, dead in chartroom and on the bridge. Probably whole of crew dead * * *." A few confused dots and dashes (of Morse code) later, two words came through clearly. They were "I die." (Ourang Medan - from Wikipedia)
Yeah, as another has pointed out, this is a factual consistency with the reported myth of the Ourang Medan. According to the story, the signal received from the ship was a gibberish of morse with only selct words that could be translated.
Well he's clearly stressed out and all of the bodies were still on the ship years later. So it can be explained that in a panic he rushed to send a message and it failed because he was too terrified to do it properly
Best part at 1:51
It's strange that the studio behind the game didn't progress in any way like...at all. The graphics, the sound design, the gameplay and even the plot structure are worse than Until Dawn, which is really weird.
Until Dawn was backed by Sony, which means Supermassive had a WAY bigger budget but the game was exclusive only to the PS4. Now Supermassive is backed by Bandai Namco.
@@gvirusqueen3559 True, but that doesn't excuse the shit jumpscares and lame story.
Brian Hummler Yeah I agree.
That bad, huh?
It has every downside of UD and didn't keep the good things. I regret my money so much.
Its funny how everyone was so excited before starting the game (me included). And all that excitement turned into salt (also including me) by the end.
I was lost by it a few minutes in. The facial animals were putting me off so much...
I didn't even know this existed until Jacksepticeye played it.
I only knew about this game by TheRadBrad. It seems nice at first... but in the end it feels like either a cheap version of Cabin in the woods, to an extent or a really watered down Until Dawn.
@@reaper3908 was that a pun? "Watered down until dawn?"
Maybe you should've invested into a videogame.
This game was so disappointing compared to Until Dawn. Yeah I know Until Dawn had Sony funding it. That doesn't exscuse terrible line reading, shitty mo caps and unsatisfying story and plot. Honestly the best part of this game was the british guy who may or may not be Death.
I keep feeling like this game is the horror genre's version of The Order 1776. A game that focuses far more on visuals than it does on the technical of being a fun game.
Until dawn is also cheeks. Just the shinier of the two turd
@ichaelis Problem is, given the span of the game's timeline (usually within 24 hours), no character is given time to develop. I'd like to see something stretched out over a longer period of time, say a few weeks to a month to give those characters a chance to shine and change over time. May be a slower pace, but this game ain't supposed to be quick action, anyway.
To be fair the mocap was also pretty bad in Until Dawn, it's just that in this game it's somehow even worse. It really feels like every character is a mouthbreather and they only bothered to Mo-cap the lower half of the face and nothing else.
Yeah the Curator was damn cool(best figure in this game)
Story is ripped from a real ghost ship story and would be more effective if they held closer to it. Set it a year or two after the incident have the main characters happen across ship by accident and the pirates showing up because they responded to the distress call. Spend first half of the game explore the ship seeing contorted bodies of the crew then slowly have characters descend to madness the closer they get to the cargo hold
Or come up with a supernatural story line. Why not a type of spirit or demon who was controlling the ship as well as those who died on it? At least, that was the theory I had when I first saw this game.
How does one respond to a distress call that was made years ago? Is that a thing that actually happened irl? Or, well, i suppose it could have made for a cool supernatural element, with the call only being heard years after due to a time anomaly or some such
The 3 stories all of you invented are way better than theirs. They make a lot more sense too !! Personally i thought of this: 5 youngsters are on a boat on holiday. There's a big storm and they end up in the middle of nowhere and they discover the boat. It's definitely not new but it works.
@@BAMGM Check out The Curse of the Ourang Medan by Bedtime Stories. He does an excellent job of telling the story that this game was based off of.
Kaitlin Keplinger I already have, and I don’t think years have passed between the distress call and the ship being found there
"Come at me shark"! Me: please come at her, shark.
UwU shark come
Few mistakes -gas gives heart attack to soilders since the gas is stronger compared to years later when the characters arrive. -they cant use the radio since you can see the intena break as the boat crashes into the medan.
In one possible ending Olson dies from cardiac arrest, so that is not an explanation.
@@CteCrassus Well he breathed so much of it that when he died you could see it coming out of his mouth
@@georgek.9238 And yet his buddies, who spent as much time below deck and were tripping as hard as he did, didn't. Bonus points for the one that survives being stabbed in the gut.
@@CteCrassus they don't have heart attack directly because of the gas, they have heart because of the fear of the hallucinations, as we see the gas still make hallucinations thus is able to kill someone by heart attack, also it is said a LOT of times that looked like the soldiers have been scared to death, not having random heart attacks because of it
I guess Olson didn’t know much about the gas as well as the others. And he wasn’t probably most affected, leading to cardiac arrest
Actually, Fliss does comment on Conrad acting weird when he's being chased around by what he thinks is a pin-up girl...but only in a run where Conrad DIES during that moment. Only further pointing out how bad the cohesion in this game's story is. As for Joe getting spooked by a kid in the opening, he knows that there's a child-sized coffin on the ship, and documents you find in-game reveal that it caused the crew to believe that there was a ghost kid on the ship. Combined with the fact that he has a kid of his own, it's understandable. Where that sin applies more instead, though, is why Fliss hallucinated a giant ballroom being used for a satanic ritual, since we hadn't encountered anything related with any characters which would cause her to see it. Also, the coffins in the open were being used to transport American corpses from the area where they seized the Manchurian Gold. The US was developing bioweapons there, & those were the casualties. They actually DO pay off later, as Alex will hallucinate a two-headed monster based on the skeleton he sees...but ONLY on certain runs. Again, a lack of cohesion is this game's biggest flaw. It's one thing to use a guide that lets you know about the path to keep everyone alive, it's another just to require a guide to get the path that EXPLAINS AND TELLS A FRIGGIN' STORY. Anyhow, great video as usual, can't wait for Gears 5!
Fliss was reading a book about the Salem witch trials. It had a hooded figure on the cover.
@@dizzy5 No, that was Julia who was reading it, you can find it in the bag in her cabin. Fliss can come across it, as can others, but it's purely optional. For that matter, satanic rituals & the Salem witch trials are two vastly different beasts.
Yeah, that was my biggest problem. That and it feels like there was supposed to be more to it. Maybe that's solved by playing the way that makes sense? Idk. I haven't gotten around to playing a second time yet. It's like once everyone got back together it was basically over when it really felt like it was just starting to ramp up. I'm curious though, do you know how Fliss can save Conrad? Is that only if you got their relationship high enough in the beginning? What about different characters going on to find the power switch? The only ones I've seen are Brad/Alex and Julia, but in this video for the sins he had Fliss and Alex. And I'm still really not clear on how to get that scene he had where you fight Olsen for the distributor cap. I got the one where he just dies of a heart attack.
I heard another KZheadr mention that Fliss’ strong belief in the supernatural is what caused her to see the ballroom. As it was full of a couple other horrors that are associated with the supernatural e.g. a dummy, a self playing piano, and a coffin of blood.
MoonlitxAngel As far as I know, you have to get a result where Junior shoots his gun, so someone left in the radio room will go investigate it, in order to fight Olson.
I'm surprised that there wasn't a sin for the characters not realizing that Brad is missing and laying dead somewhere
Lying*
This one was really disappointing. Until dawn had more character development and their deaths made more of an impact. You died from the whole butterfly affect and your choices made a difference. This one was just..if you miss a quick time event you die. 🤷🏽♀️
You made me remember Mark's reaction about Ashley's death lol
Yuuup. Even more so, I think Man of Medan is way worse at letting you know why your character died when it is a result of a previous choice. I don’t want to have to open the choice chart menu every time a character dies to read what went wrong because it breaks the immersion completely. Not to mention the deaths being less satisfying. In my blind play through, everyone but Brad dies. Conrad got shot while trying to escape, which was clearly because we missed a quick QTE (lightning quick), but it was terribly disappointing that in Conrad’s first scene, he was dead and never part of the real story. Weird that he dies so easily given Shawn Ashmore is their most acclaimed actor. Julia got shot by Junior, and in the moment, I had absolutely no idea why. Fliss got killed by Brad after hallucinating the grim reaper. At the time, I has no idea how I could’ve saved Fliss, and then later when Brad apologizes to Fliss’ body, I still didn’t fully comprehend what went wrong. Alex got crushed by the gate after fighting with Olson, and maybe that was a matter of QTE’s too. I’ve played plenty of choice based games where I get people killed, but it’s never made me mad at the game instead of myself.
Not even one qte. You have to miss 5 or something. You have to be super noob to fail them
Actually every character except conrad can survive in a run where you miss every qte, as long as you make the right choices.
I was going to Agree with this comment, until that you said you're choice matter in until dawn but not man of medan, it just makes me to not believe any supermassive fans anymore
Additional sins: - Curved Thompson magazines, even though the only Thompsons with curved mags were ones that the Chinese modified and were not used by the US. - Censoring any mention of Japan or Unit 731, despite it being a plot point. In the game multiple pieces of information that can be found allude to soldiers go missing whilest scouting out a water purification plant in Manchuria, their bodies mangled from experimentation. Unit 731 was part of the "Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department" of the Kwantung Army and operated out of Manchuria. Unit 731, along with the other Units setup in Japanese controlled Asia within the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department developed chemical and biological weapons, and are infamous for their incredibly gruesome human experiments, among many other horrible things. This is basically the equivalent of making a horror story set in post-war Europe with events being tied to the Holocaust, but censoring any mention of Nazis or the Holocaust. And it's no shocker that the publisher is Japanese.
This game could HAVE so much more interesting. Just a cheap made for TV jump scare episode. Very disappointed.
Sin #2: Nothing about his character says he's bilingual. But does anything say he isn't? There really isn't that much character given for him to make this assumption, if we avoid the stereotypes of "Army man dumb". If they have been stationed there for a while, they might very well know the language.
The dead doctor locked himself in the sick bay, hid in the cabinet and died of a cardiac event - this is literally what the hallucinogens do to a person.
If were talking about things wrong with the video he also talks about that weird Skelton not being explained, when it actually does in one of the findable documents. They ran out of coffins and so presumably started to fill coffins with multiple bodies
@@lachlancrimmings2235 What is never explained though, is why all the corpses around the ship are mummified despite all the rats while the ones in the caskets are nothing but bones.
Or why the ship had one Sailor and nothing but Soldiers on it. That didn't make sense to me.
I agree with this but it wasn’t like he has any time after of him thinking about the words like trying to translate it in his mind he just instantly knew what was being said to him .
2:50 to answer this, i think the kid is his son, the kid looks similar to the kid in joe's picture near his bed
It is indeed his son. His unfortunately dearly departed son
Ah yes when I see my son in a place he shouldn't be i start shooting too
@@janramaker3645 it was a demonic ghost that looked like his son
@@shannonfoley8515 It was a hallucination.
@@frozenfoxgames5300 he didn't know that though.
pretty sure that the child that joe sees is his son. who we see in a photo
Fucking dumbass didn't even do his research 😅
@Dutch Van Der Linde You'd have to ask the player why you'd choose to shoot your own son.
The weirdest part about that photo is why is it in the medical bay? Hes just been put in there after getting knocked out by the sergeant. Are we to believe that someone took the time to go "ah, this cheeky drunk rule breaker. Someone go into his private quarters and take a picture of his son and put it by the bed so it's there for him when he wakes up. Yaaayyy we are the cutest platoon this side of the Pacific."
joe son
@@sbj97 for real this KZheadr has gotten so much stuff wrong
I’m genuinely impressed by the ridiculous sequence of events you came up with for the doctor in the locker; as opposed to him hiding in there and having a heart attack like just about everyone else.
The in game comic reveled he was shot while in the closet.
That never happend to me I ended up fighting a young ghost kid with a knife
if you remove the intro for this game and just show the gang, this would have the mystery element right.... Its so frekin obvious
Ikr
I actually missed the beginning the first time I watched through it since it was a live stream and it was actually so much better xD
I agree. The plot was a great idea but there are way too many hints about the gas. It's way too obvious. All of us understood the plot a long times before the characters. It completely removes the surprise, shock factor.
@@Em-fz5uh also cheap jumpscares from non monsters like the fish scene at the bottom of the ocean it takes away the tension of the actual monsters
@@steviegilliam5685 Oh yes you're right !! I completely forgot this one.
What also didn’t make sense was the fact when everyone was brought to upper deck, everybody literally told the plan out loud to keep brad hidden or kept mentioning him while the robbers where at least 3-5 feet away from them.
Storm, the answer is Storm
6:24 That delivery was funnier than it had any right to be.
-1 sin for the animation of the Curator’s feet sinking eve so slightly into the soft carpet +1 sin for several of the characters walking around a rusty, broken ship without shoes on
@@wotanraath1443 Calm tf down, racist
You're right. They should've stopped by at the shoe store at the entrance to the ship first. Next you're going to say it's an issue that they didn't all make sure to equip gas masks the moment they released there was a dangerous gas being released on the ship - or how about them forgetting to bring their remote teleporters on board so they could get out? In all seriousness, you can't just get whatever you want in the middle of the ocean; it's not like your local mall.
@@SyndicateOperative Thanks for the laugh, you missed the point entirely.
Most servicemen pick up the native language overseas. It’s not required but any ranking officer will tell you how important it is to be able to communicate with the locals. Even if you only understand them and can’t speak it
I don’t think it’s bad but very unpolished
Oh it’s bad
Random Dude I wouldn’t say bad but definitely nothing compared to until dawn
I thought so through the whole game, but at the end scene i was like naaah its so bad
Naaah, I mean! The game gave me hopes, thought it could give a different outcome than just gas hallucination, that everyone guessed! But not only it didn’t get better, it also Punishes you for accomplishing something difficult (aka kills Conrad if you succeed escaping), doesn’t really make you like ANY character for real, it’s way too short, way too expansive for sure, the dialogues make no sense in many parts, and it’s just so easy to give the right answer to win the affection of another character. Not only that, but also almost no gameplay, only rely on quick time events (which try to compensate by killing you at first mistake), besides all the things at the video. I think it’s cool they made a real historical research for this, but besides that and taking in count that many game and story mistakes… I gotta say that makes it really really bad, in my opinion.
Bruna Wircker All that happend on the ship I found on Wikipedia. The rest is fiction.
The curator's best reaction is when you get everyone killed. The game devs really are just trolling you then.
I mean, the yellow gas is shown within the first like 5 minutes of the game, so are the caskets really much of a red herring?
Actually the unsafe storage of dangerous chemicals was what created the original incident in history so idk why you would sin them being faithful
The original is an obvious and poorly written hoax.
From what I read it might be a hoax, yeah but still, if one believed the hoax, the chemicals being in unsafe conditions was one of the theories
@Galaxy Force Gaming you have a source on that? From what I've read, there's no record of the ship existing beyond the story. The ships that supposedly found it are real, but have no record of finding it in their logs.
@Galaxy Force Gaming The many contradictions and inaccuracies in it claim otherwise. It is very much a nautical talltale. A curious, morbid mystery, yes, but a fictional one. RESOURCE: [ skittishlibrary.co.uk/the-myth-of-the-ourang-medan-ghost-ship-1940/ ] When supposedly telling a "true" story, changing details tends to disprove any and all possible credibility in itself.
@@obolisk0430 Good luck finding many ships that weren't military vessels being recorded. There've been millions, and one specifically used for smuggling operations isn't going to bother sending a letter to Britain asking to be put on the British registry of ships. Especially a ship from 1930s-1940s indonesia.
I'd sin any technical issues but then the count might be unreadable Serious comment though: Joe was hallucinating his son.
1:38 did you miss the part where they were obviously said to be drunk? I get that this is just for fun and all, but that’s just stupid.
“Come at me shark!” I’m dying lol.
I will say this, the part about seeing the dead body in the cargo hold doesn't need a sin as the body was a hallucination, this is revealed when you play co-op and you each see the dead body of the other person. It should get a sin, however, for requiring you to play co-op to make this clear to the player
+1 sin for the fact that to get a platinum trophy in this game, you have to finish the game once in co-op... so if you dont have anyone to play with or dont want to spend on ps plus or no one cares about the game anymore at some point, you are SoL
When Conrad drops down the hole to follow Alex and Fliss he doesnt go all the way down as they fall and crash through the floor Conrad goes down, you can see the hole right next to Conrad
Some of the sins (like the sickbay being spotless) could be explained by the fact that everyone is tripping balls. Additionally, the casket with the two headed corpse is explained on an easily missable document, that says that there was a casket shortage and thus they had to stuff multiple people into the same casket. That's not a two headed skeleton in that casket; it's the remains of two people. What should be a sin though is that everyone aboard the ship is mummified, while the bodies in the caskets, which were more protected from the elements and ravenous rats, are nothing but bones.
Very late, but the bonus comic you get reveals that it actually IS a two headed corpse, and thst it's the result of an experiment the Japanese conducted on two us soldiers
I had so many questions about this game i don't think it was ready for launch anyone else?
I'm weird for reply to a 1 year old comment, but it most definitely was. The original ending (a.k.a. Lost Ending) can be partially found in the game-files, in which the ship was on fire and sinking as you deal with Olson. If you saved Junior, he could even talk Olson down and spare him. Also, there was a death scene for Alex (sequence is lost/not in in the game files) in which he is burnt to death. The aftermath of which can only be seen in one of the ending previews. The finale was supposed to be pretty epic, but they decided to give us some bland endings instead, with no real danger.
Opening cutscene shows gas leaking and everyone going crazy. Game ending: it's the gas. Errrm... Yes?
Another horror game taking place on a boat is Cryostasis, it has a really unique story and gameplay mechanic. Play it instead of this it's million times better and you have guns. The "This..is..a..paid..actor" part made me laugh you always have nice ideas Dart thanks.
Cryostasis had some jank but at least it was trying to do something different and I appreciated that.
Kept crashing on my PC back then but now I upgraded and can handle it! Yes, Cryo in comparion to this "Ghost Ship" game is the better choice. Water Gun for the Win! 🤣🔫
Their eyes never squint during expressions. When you're angry, the lower eyelids rise to meet the upper lids halfway but they don't touch. This doesn't happen when the characters get angry or sad. It's like Alitta Battle Angel. It's details are so well done, yet there are some details that stick out too well.
Fliss looks like one of the fish characters from Shark Tale
7:28 later in the game Conrad was able to count how long it takes for the thunder to strike; brad must have been keeping track of the thunder as he was telling the story
Exactly
That's not how thunder works. We're barely that accurate with weather today, yet you're saying he timed the pauses between the thunder like it's on a timer?
The sad thing is that this game actually had potential to be something a little better
Little hope
First play through was so obvious. When you see the gas leaking out from the crates I immediately assumed it would be some kind of hallucination so when I saw the monster chasing me as joe I didn’t shoot thinking I would snap out of it and see my friends but instead I got stabbed in the chest lol. Then later the curator gives a hint saying not everything is as it appears, this basically confirmed my thoughts. Ended up saving all my characters by choosing logical options.
after junior die, when the guy with the one eye starts running, his body disappeares and when u save him he doesn't appear on the boat
I like this channel, but a lot of your sins are due to not paying attention to the game. Joe thought the kid was his son, and then saw him look like a monster and got spooked. The chemical that causes hallucinations has the side effect of causing heart attacks. And I love the multiplayer aspect!
9:27 Cannibal Rats 10:16 a clue in the game tells you that the two headed thing is actually an experiment they did on two people, and it ended up killing both
Another sin: a ship drifting for 70 years seems impossible without maintenance. It would've been sunk by 5 years or a decade or probably hit a land.
It feels like a late 90's Sci-Fi movie of the week in game form. What's next? A Sharknado love triangle drama made by David Cage starring Nic Cage as Ellen Paige?
Don't give them any ideas lol
This game is such an easy and obvious target that the 1st sin goes to Dartigan for even bothering.
10:18 The best attempt that I can guess at this phenomenon is that there is a document you can find on board the ship, telling you that the guys in these crates contain the remains of American spies who were captured by the Japanese during their occupation of China or the Philippines. They were treated more like lab rats than POW’s and these twisted experiments caused the spies to suffer malformations of their persons before they died. The Army doesn’t want the families of the spies to know they suffered such a horrific death, so they were sending their bodies home in sealed casks. One of the soldiers must have got curious and unsealed a coffin.
The caskets are of the soilders who went to Retrieve the Manchurian gold. Later the crew thought it was a ghost ship because they were haunting it. And as for the guy in the locker he most likely locked the door and hid in there. This can also be seen in the Curators cut where you hide in the locker because of the undead Chinese man and die of a heart attack
The fact they want you to play through the game first before trying out ANY other mode should be a sin in itself, since by the time you finish a playthrough once, you'll know the truth that will make it hard to experience the game the same way again, do yourselves a favor and play with a friend firstly so there's at least some fun.
I mean it wasnt even scary to me, i already figured out that the gas made them hallucinate right when they showed it lol so all the stupid scary stuff that happened, i knew wasnt real. But the one thing i didnt get was if you didnt shoot the kid in the beginning, he gets stabbed. Was that a part of the hallucination? Anyways i wish i didnt buy this game lol
Im guessing Charlie stabbed him cause he was holding a knife and thought he was a monster idk
It was Charlie with a knife and he aslo saw Joe as the monster and killed him
Where is Joe’s body in the cargo hold? I only find Charlie if he dies in the closet.
Yeah exactly! I think a lot of players figured it out right away when they showed the box being struck by lightning. WHY DID THEY SHOW THAT PART
How I'd do a game like this: · No walking, you just choose paths and characters pick shit up by themselves · More endings (you can escape early) · You only control 1-2 characters, rest are automatic but you can influence them through dialogue, acquiring knowledge or by helping them directly
To be fair, there is further hallucination after the gang figures it out, depending on how things play out. It's really stupid, though, and still in a much smaller amount than what was going on before. Also, the pirates are probably supposed to be shit at being pirates.
The one dude even said the captain was a idiot for not just robbing them and leaving
9:45 : The radio antenna or something on the Duke of Milan is shown breaking when they ram into the side boat with the corpse hanging off the Ourang Medan. Their radio is busted from the get-go.
Exactly Even Filss has mentioned this
I actually hardcore disagree with the multiplayer sin. I agree with most of the plot sins because there definitely was a lot of flaws that my friend and I noticed and the dialogue/acting was very clunky, but overall we had a really good time playing together. I feel like in playing solo you missed a lot of the fun aspects of the game that multiplayer has to offer. While I agree the game is nowhere near Until Dawn I wouldn’t say that it’s a bad game. We had a lot of fun, it would’ve been a lot more effective however if they didn’t make the plot twist WAY too obvious. My friend and I figured out the hallucination stuff during the prologue which made the hallucinations towards the end of the game way easier to counter. We’re playing Little Hope next and I’m hoping they improve upon the plot, but if they keep the multiplayer the way it is I will definitely be satisfied. I do think it is kind of bs though that in order to have a good time you kind of have to play it with a friend.
Lmao sooooooo how did Little Hope gooo?
Thank you for this video !!! You mentioned all the inaccuracies I'd noted during play throughs. Sin 90: Sometimes Conrad's ear is intact and sometimes his ear is bloody/with a bandaid. + between the scene 8:11 and the scene after, all the characters changed clothes without explanations. Sin 91: the storm that comes from nowhere and conveniently push the Duke near the boat. I don't understand what were the purpose of the parts about the plain wreck. I love the fact they found a paper who had been in water for decades and isn't destroyed. Everything was super predictable and there were a tons of plot holes. I love the concept of exploring wreckages and ghost ships and i was thrilled when I discovered it was from the creators of Until Dawn. My disappointment is huge. I'm sad.
The boat had a radio and there's a moment where you can control fliss and she speaks to someone who tells her that a storm is getting closer to their previous coordinates and by logic you would think that the storm would hit sooner or not.
Can I just say that I love this video. K. Thank you. This makes me feel a lot better for my Sims three not working on my MacBook.
10:24 There is a book I believe Fliss finds it? (Can't remember when I think it's after you dispel the illusions with fresh air maybe? I've watched a lot of people play through this game XD) Anyway it more or less mentions they they didn't have enough caskets so half of someones remains is in the small casket while the other half is shoved in with the other persons whom you see
Omg bro, this game had so much potential. It was based off of a historic tale which is actually very interesting. Had they only spent a little bit more time on the characters and obviousness of the story, this game really would’ve been amazing. Pretty sad actually
The game doesn’t explicitly explain the caskets, but the collectibles reveal the bodies in the caskets were the original soldiers who discovered the Manchurian Gold at the Chinese water treatment plant, that they were captured, tortured, experimented on (hence the two-headed one and the child-size one) and killed. The Ourang Medan’s mission was two-fold: retrieve the bodies of the American soldiers to bring them home, and transport the Manchurian Gold.
The coffin with 2 heads was explained on a note you find, there was a casket shortage Also i didn't encounter the hooded guys at all
I know I have the unpopular opinion but I enjoyed the game and really liked playing it with friends
I agree. I thought the story was great. I did feel a little let down by the revelation that there was nothing supernatural on the ship. But the game still kept you fighting to survive against Olson and his crew of fishermen-pirates. It just was no longer a horror game and more of a survival game once the gas was revealed to be the problem.
@@Confederate-hj2dc the reason they made it so that there was nothing supernatural is because it's based on an actual story. Look up the SS Ourang Medan. It's an unsolved mystery of a ship where all the passengers were mysteriously found dead with no sign of injury after the ship sent out a distress call. They are believed to have died due to chemicals mixing with sea water and creating a poisonous gas. Many people believe this story is real and it was written about in newspapers during the 40s, but there has never been any official record of the ship found. So yeah that's where the story of the gas came from.
GamingSins sins: 2-Why is appearence make him billingual? 10-Because the gas, he locked the door from in and he entered the locker to hide from the "monsters" and then he died. 11-One of them is supposed to be locked for 10 days there and the other in the medic bay. I suppose they didn't talk to the guy in the medic bay because it was locked 13- Gas? 14-You aren't obligated to shoot the kid 23-Why a sin for that? 25-It's supposed to be a secret cargo so, they didn't specify why the plane was doing and the ship cargo was secret, once again. 27-Not a sin? 28-Not a sin but agreed. Sorry for misppeling mistakes and I'm bored so i won't continue
About sin 48, rats both reproduce quickly, and cannibalize, so the real sin is how are the corpses on the ship mummified? The rats would have picked everything clean.
My very white grandpa who fought in WW2, married my Very Mexican Grandmother who came from Oaxaca, he only spoke English, and she only spoke Spanish, and neither learned each other’s language proficiently. They were married until death did them apart, I don’t know how they did it, but it gives me alotta hope
You cant give it a sin for not degrading over time, and then give it a sin bc its not still powerful enough to kill them...
I’m still upset that we never found out (or at least not in the play throughs that I’ve watched) why Fliss had that fake license
I thought we discovered that she just couldn’t afford to get the real one or something? Something about being deep in debt and this dive trip was a way to help get her out of hole
MITCHELL WIGGS Yeah, I suppose so. I didn’t really think much about how those two connected. It just seemed like a fake license was significant and the debt was not.
Yeah it seemed sort of dumb anyway. I guess they just wanted us to think that maybe she wasn’t legitimate and maybe was in on the kidnapping
It’s a cool idea for a story, but the execution was bad. I like that it’s based off the actual ship that got found, had no records of being sent out, the whole crew was found dead with terrified expressions, and when the ship was being towed back it exploded.
It happened because storing potassium cyanide and nitroglycerin really badly where seawater can get to it is a really really bad idea, which the original ship was smuggling. As someone who knows of the tale of the Ourrang Medan I couldn't help but squeel every time they nailed something from it at the right moments. Like the last message being send out in morse code being 'I die'. I think you can even hear the operator tap it out in the intro but my morse code is kinda rusty.
Love everything you do keep it up!
I have no idea what this "greedfall" game even is, but it looks ten times more interesting then "gears of war: we made another one" so let's roll with it.
I think the opening theme was my favorite part of the game. Just...just the opening.
ive been waiting for this. thanks
Nice one and many good vital sin points on this game🤔😎 You earn a sub😎
The Intro of the Old man is the best Moment in the game. The Intro the Song it's so fucking awesome. I wished Xfactor would have started like that too
Very ambitious, not executed very well.
Glad to say that Dartigan is back
Sin #24 Fliss can be called out about her fake diving license. It's a part of the game. Typos make sense. She said this trip was meant to help her pay for renewing the original diving license.
Actually, there is a note you can find about how they ran out of coffins so they started putting two people per coffin, that's why it looks like a two-headed, four-armed creature was in the coffin. Not the game's fault if you didn't find all the info ;) Also, Joe at the start doesn't see some "random" child, he sees his son because that's what was at his mind the whole time. All of the hallucinations are related to something the person has only recently seen or thought about, and usually only turn into horror when the characters are acticely scared. Also, shooting the box the child just climbed into is really on you, the game doesn't force you to do that and most people would be at least somewhat hesitant to try and kill a child xD Also, it can be assumed the concentration of the gas was much higher at first, making it not instantly dissipate so even people on deck would have been affected. Ofc after 70 years there is a lot less left, so you might be in trouble if you go in stuffy places that were locked for 70 years, but totally fine outside.
12:52 "People under the influence of a drug don't sober up just because they get some fresh air." This is true for some drugs but inhaled drugs usually have really fleeting effects. Ever got a nicotine buzz? Your first one ever might last you a while, but when you get some fresh air, the effects do go away pretty rapidly. The same goes for laughing gas at the dentist. Both are cases of prolonged exposure to a gas that alters one's state of mind, but both suggest that the effects can go away quickly with just fresh air. Subtract a sin, sir. Edit: can't believe I almost forgot salvia and DMT!
Oh, hey, you took the time to do both cuts. Neat. The two skulls is explained. A paper you find in game mentions them running out of caskets.
So it's not a two headed person but two person in one casket ?
@@mharizsaifuddin7059 that is the implication, yes. Also why one of the caskets is child-sized.
9:31 notice you only see rats when youre playing as Alex an when breathing in the Manchurian gold gas almost like he's hallucinating his fear of rats
There is an explanation of the two headed body in the casket. They say they had not enough caskets to carry all the bodies; that's why there is a child casket on the first place. They dismembered the bodies and take them in pieces to their country... Which also doesn't make sense because, you know, at the funeral it would be terrifying to find out that your brother was mixed up with some other guy's bones.
Wow...that game somehow looks even more boring than until dawn, an achievement I wasn't expecting to be reached.
90% of it is walking around slowly like you're wearing led boots waiting for the next jumpscare to get it outta the way, 5% is action, 5% is miscellaneous
Tbf, Until Dawn definetely is not boring on first run. Though may be on later runs.
Just Watch Until Dawn never got boring for me personally even after doing two complete runs and a couple of individual chapter runs to grab trophies I missed, but this just looks like it’d be boring from the get-go.
I'm more forgiving of the middle of the book cliché in games since the books are modeled like that for graphical efficiency. There's probably only one movable page, so it's less noticeable in the middle.
70 years later for them and 3 years later for me in this video,and I still don't understand how that ship had eletricity,and how it had a perfectly working radio and the guy was using code morse,I don't think we need to watch the video to notice that. 😂
2:10 ...The room was locked from the inside, though. That's how Joe can open the padlock and leave in the first place. 2:44 That's not Charlie's corpse. Charlie is the zombie kid that Joe thinks he sees, while Charlie sees Joe as that fortuneteller. Also, the kid is based on Joe's memories of his son, and firing at him is entirely optional. 4:51 Flynn? This ain't Tangled, dude. 5:59 Yeah, and that was likely fully intentional on their part. 10:15 The story behind them is actually explained in the collectible tidbits that can be found around the ship. It adds background to the story and to the origin of Manchurian Gold. Is a story having background that doesn't directly get brought up in the present action a sin now? 10:30 Like another comment said, you can still get scared by something you expect, and that makes the feeling that much worse. Not the game's fault you're always on guard. 15:45 Probably because they dropped down a different number of floors each. 16:47 How about middle ending? Not good, not bad? Or do those not exist anymore? On a side note, aren't "heart attack" and "cardiac arrest" more or less the same?
2:44 Have you played the curator's cut ? Joe dies before Charlie. In the first playthrough Joe can shoot the kid. If it was really Charlie, then Charlie would be dead. But in the curator's cut Charlie dies after Joe. Hell, Joe even tries to warn him .
@@strangedude9077 You clearly haven't understood a thing. They die before or after one another depending on your decisions. The Charlie corpse Joe sees isn't real, and the real Charlie is the "Ghost Boy". Shoot him and you kill Charlie, but die from cardiac arrest. Don't and Charlie stabs you and dies from cardiac arrest afterwards. In the Curator's Cut, Charlie sees a hallucination of Joe's dying body telling him to hide but that's not real either. Then the Fortune Teller appears and the process repeats itself. Concluding, both see each other dead and then face a monster, but in reality they're seeing non-real bodies and killing each other.
@@nexcipher6229 Okay, that's not a completely absurd theory. But if we're gonna assume this is true, explain this then. If the child is indeed Charles, how can you explain that here, Charles isn't in the same room as Joe in the curator's cut. Because in that version, we clearly see Charles coming out of another room to find Joe dying. Now let's assume you're right and say that's an hallucination, okay, great. But in the game the child RAN at Joe stabbing him. Joe didn't just stand near a closet or whatever that is and just got stabbed. Also, if you choose not to stab, you still die of a heart attack which is not how it would've happened. Doesn't Joe shoot Charlie if he doesn't stab ? Before, I actually thought the same thing. But once you watch the curator's cut it just doesn't add up. I agree that the Charlie corpse Joe sees isn't real. But Joe's corpse in Charlie's eyes is real. That, or this is a plot hole. Wouldn't surprise me looking at how this game has been. I mean, really I thought the same thing in the beginning. The curator's cut made everything a lot more confusing.
More importantly, why is this man so concerned about getting his 50 cents back anyways?
Counting for inflation, 50 cents was like a thousand dollars back then
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It was mentioned sometime when they were discussing how to retrieve the distributor cap that Fliss' radio got damaged on their way to the Ourang Medan. IIRC seeing something break off during the storm before the boat got flooded.
I watched other youtubers play this and was massively disappointed. Julia's reaction to the shark is probably the best moment in this entire dumpster fire.
It's not that bad
Y'know I actually appreciate the constructive criticism you give. It's a shame most companies don't actually pay attention to these mistakes. If it's worth anything, at some point in the future I aspire to work for their company so I definitely keep errors like these in mind. Nicely done, dude!
Am I only man in the internet not physicaly atracted to Flis?
Piotr Szlosarek I’m gay and she’s still pretty hot so probably
I imagine 80% of that attraction is her accent
Nah, she looks weird, much rather the blonde.
@Bloodybleeder now you're just being mean
The lips...they keep me from liking her at all.
Can't wait for the next ones to come out
You can figure out the twist extremely early on if you play with a friend you will both be describing two scenarios in which you realize you are doing what the other person says is a monster
There are seriously so many possible outcomes. Your gameplay is so different from mine. I got a little curious about wanting to experience those and more. But then again, I already restart 3 times already just to keep everyone alive and I was satisfied with the ending I got because I was like done with the game.
You do realize you don't have to restart the whole game completely? you can just cycle through and restart the last chapter lmao.
God, I cannot praise those intro’s for your videos enough, they’re amazing
Duct taping wasnt done for the potential cries for help, but to prevent them from communicating with each other no =?
The game explains why they don't go back to flis's boat and use the radio on the Duke of Milan if you get to a certain part they actually will tell you that they destroyed the radio when the bad guys had fliss call into the coast guard about a weather update
I am the rare person who enjoyed Man of Medan more than Until Dawn. The Until Dawn characters were too cliche for me, while this isn't. Since these characters aren't AS cliche, it lets me get more attached to them. For example, I freaked out when I killed Conrad and could barely breathe for a couple minutes before restarting the whole game. Until Dawn was a good game, but in my opinion, Man of Medan is the best one so far. Little Hope doesn't look good, either. I bet if I hadn't killed certain Until Dawn characters I would of liked it a bit more but oh well. Man of Medan, in my opinion, looks and feels better.
I didn’t think it was better than Until Dawn but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I understand why people disliked it because it gave away the hallucinations pretty early on, but that doesn’t make it a bad game. I figured out they were hallucinations pretty early on too but it didn’t ruin the game for me. I don’t think the characters weren’t badly written or cliché like people are saying they are. You and me and among the few I’ve seen who enjoyed Man of Medan.
Ahh the Man of M’Chungus
Ahh yes, the Man Of M'goosh
They also ripped off Uncharted 3, with the "treasure" turning out to not be cursed or have any supernatural power, but be a strong hallucinogen instead... it's nothing really new plot twist wise
aside from this being relatively short, i thought it was dope. comparing it to until dawn, i think, is a disservice; they are similar in function only. the story stands on its own, is multi-faceted, and impossible to grasp entirely in one playthrough or only in single-player. the multiplayer element was fun for me, and didn't ruin the story (or vice-versa), because the pacing supports both and communication between myself and my partner aided us thoroughly and only helped us to comprehend what was happening. when we realized the differences between what we were each seeing, this became even more fascinating, and finding more info on what we missed in our playthrough and other things that could've occurred increased my interest and entices me to try again. until dawn was also 60 at launch and was a standalone game. man of medan costs half that and took me longer than half the time to play, so i see its merit. it's also part of an anthology series which will offer more stories and more branching plots and endings. the value is undoubtedly there. this video is entertaining, and definitely shows some issues in the thinking that went into this game, but folks are being far too critical. lol.