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00:00 Intro
00:11 Performance
00:35 Click feel
00:58 Quality
01:22 Shape
02:16 My grip with AX
03:00 Aiming and adaptation
04:24 What's the most important reason?
04:54 Weight
05:20 Final thoughts
Vaxee is killing it. The NP-01S Wireless is one of the best feeling mice I’ve tried.
the np01s was one of the weird shapes I've ever used, the vaxee formats either you like it or you hate it. but in all other aspects vaxee mice are excellent.
Actually NP-01S wireless is different from NP-01S wired in one crucial aspect: the center of gravity. The wireless version shifted the center of gravity toward the back of the mouse. I was baffled why they felt differently (I prefer the wired version).
fr np01s was a surprise for me shape is odd but works for my relaxed finger tip grip, also best light quiet clicks i've felt
@@tianlamian For me, the big problem with the shape of the mouse is that it is very thin in width, which makes me force my grip a lot, but of course, shape is always a matter of taste. Vaxee's clicks and coating are really very good. On the other hand, the outset is a mouse that is very wide at the back and tall, in my opinion it only works for very large hands
Nice review Haus! I am loving my copy as well! I'm mostly rotating between Outset AX Wireless, Np-01s wireless, and OP1WE. I am a huge vaxee and endgamegear fanboi!
I can't believe that you only have 24k subs. By far one of the best mousereviewers out there! Keep it coming!
yay new haus review! sucks I could never get along with the outset ax, it always gave me pain in the palm just below my thumb. hopefully thorn will be a better fit!
such a great shape, hope the smaller version isn't just a rumour only small alternative is the keris
Hi, just saw your review from randomfrankp's vid! Would you mind sharing the source for your desktop wallpaper used there? Looks sick! Great review as always
great video haus!
Sooooo I’m wanting to get away from the Dav3 as the hump feels a bit to prevalent. From the video I would think maybe the thorn is better? I like the GPX2 as well and can palm and claw it. Would you say maybe do thorn ergo and or np-01s wireless for a good middle ground ??
anyone else notice that zowie lowered the price of the EC-CW to the same price of the outset ax?
I had no clue 😂
@@Divinity_vA dunno if it is a sale but i got an email from zowie about the price drop and when i checked Amazon it was 120$. the timing was just to good
I agree, the shape of this mouse is the best I've ever used. I use the wired version. This is a 10/10 mouse.
Just got it. Holy shit this shape is perfect.
Thanks for the review f0rest
Me and Haus have almost the exact same grip. And by looking at eloshapes i personally think the shape would fit me perfectly so i think i might by an Outset AX
I was thinking about it!
Is that a dac/amp in the center under your monitor 5:15? What brand is it? Looks sort of like Steelseries'
Can you tell me any mice that is similar to primer wireless? I LOVE shape of prime wireless, but I dislike the tech in the prime wireless.
On their site the reciever is sold out right now. Do I need one?
I Really wish someone would do a dock like zowie. It's suuuuper convenient when I'm not using it just shoving it on the dock to charge. I dunno between this and the NP-01S for like 18.5x10 hands.
You should review the Lamzu Maya. I think it solves all of the issues and feedback that Lamzu had received on the Atlantis.
Yeah, I have the atlantis and the thorn. also the vaxee np01s, which was my favorite of these until the latest lamzu release. in my view the ax is just a plus size regarding the np01s. so of all of this mentioned I surely take the maya on top of any other, regarding the others being also great mice. I still remember when I received the Maya and tried it. It was, for me, like no other. The maya is one of the mice I use the most now, including the GPX 2 and the now (with new firmware) with 8khz polling rate, the most advanced razer focus pro optical sensor, I'm using also much more the dav3 pro and the viper 2 pro; not just because their also on my best mice list (I don't understand ho many reviewers tend to underrate the top tier razer mice, it seems they all like to be on the side of the "under dogs" because is cool and not exactly because of mice performance, but that's just a feeling I can't prove - for instances in my opinion the GTX 2 with 2 and not 4khz polling rate like most mice talked here except the 1kzh vaxee's, is far more reliable in most FPS I play, but as it is a logitech, big corp, is also underrated most times by reviewers with same even pointing the GTX 1 is better, with worse sensor, but again that's just my opinion once more) but also because I wanna realize by myself if in my pc, in the games I play, and with my particular hand grip (everybody's different, no one have the same hand size, fingers, wrist flexibility, and so on so on - including eyes no one talks about and are fundamental when using any pointing device, which a mice is), if the 8kzh add anything to the 4khz polling rate or if it's just a razer's "scam"; so to say and likely being harsh on the choice of the adjective. Only testing them for a few days so it's hard to tell yet. Ofc if you do not have the proper hardware you most likely will feel none to few changes even from 1kzh to 4kzh. But with an i7, a screen with 240hz refresh rate who knows - the gpu, on the other hand is already outdated for new releases, as its still a RTX 2070, hoping to be replaced by a 40's series or, waiting a bit more, 50's series, maybe also with a more recent i7 series "attached".
The ax sound very promising, but I don’t know if the size fit me for Claw Grip… (20,5cm x 10,5cm)
what aftermarket skates would you recommend?
What sensitivity do u normally use in cs
This mouse isn't available for purchase yet?
is this good for big hands i normally use palm grip EC1
How about this shape compare to xlite v2 mini ?
Can I use this mouse for my palm grip, palm size is (19x9), I still play on fk1+, but I really want to try this mouse, and it will be my first wireless mouse, or take something from zowie or something else???I will be very grateful for the answer
Its a shame the prices are so much higher in the EU, the pink ones don't ship for a while too. Cant wait for mine though.
5:32 Vaxee said in their release video they did adjust button tension intentionally, and actually commented it at Reddit as well. This so click feel is better suited for other games (MOBA) as well than only FPS.
This is sad cause I really liked how the original clicks felt I can’t say I love the fact they are making changes for the moba crowd when their whole company is based on making mice suited for fps.
There is nothing wrong with expanding their business. The clicks are fine still for FPS.@@r2bot
I like that change
@@r2bot XE Wireless user here, mainly play League of Legends and sometimes Counter Strike 😅
wait is the wired or wireless clicks more suited to moba? does that mean the wired or wireless has light/crispier clicks?
What about the scroll wheel????
How this one compare to the Lamzu Thorn?
when u say wired feels more premium than the wireless, in what way? like it feels lighter and crispier? if u ever tried the logitech g403 prodigy/hero v1 (braided) is it close to that level of light/snappy clicks?
Any news for a smaller Vaxee outset AX ?
The big question is Lamzu Thorn vs. the Vaxee Outset AX. I think I will go with the Thorn because it's the safer choice and has excellent reviews. Coming from a GPX Superlight that is just not a great fit and I am sick of the side buttons.
@hausgaming Just watched your top mouse review and now I am here. Ha. So would this be considered a ergo mouse? My biggest issue is I use the side buttons a lot. I keybind to the side buttons and the side buttons need to be easily gotten to. That is one of the biggest reasons I don't get the Xlite, side buttons are way to high for me to reach easily. Awesome vid my friend. Guess I am not meant to ever catch up to ya in youtube world. Fatal
Was the latency test conducted with motion sync turned on? I want to know about the sensor latency with motion sync turned on.
great question... I also would like to know...
Never used the outset AX to date but ordered this in black! Been waiting for this review and you didn't disappoint at all! Pray for my 18.5x10 hands it feels what I need! Thank you once again.
It should work very well for your hands, just be sure to give yourself a good amount of time to adapt!
@@hausgaming I went from ergo quite few year back into ambi and there has been some nice shapes overall! But we all end up back to the potato the GPX.. but something just feels, lacking? Within that mouse these days. I tried the Vaxee XE and their 1k just feels blistering better than any mouse I’ve used to date. Sadly the shape just wasn’t working for me so I’m now going to wonder back into the ergo land and maybe my old hands will forgive me! Appreciate the response. ❤️
Lamzu Maya review soon, haus??
how does this compare to the DAV3, so torn between this and the thorn. feel DAV3 may be a bit to big for my 17.8L x 10W hands. thanks for the great content!
so you choose which
I have 19.5 x 10.5 hand size, notice I tilt grip. Maining the hati-plus, I’m pretty much like palm clawing the mouse with a tilt. Do you think this would be better for me or maybe the np01s?
same hands size here and same question! @hausgaming please help us! ^^
@@rickyreload np01s is great try that! Still have no idea about the outset though but I was NOT a fan of the lamzu thorn.
I can't wait to play with mine this evening!
M42 mchose a5 kysona are my 3 favoritrs
Would you recommend this for a 18x10 hand size? The ec2 feels bulbous in my hands so I’m not sure if this mouse would feel better or not. I mainly use relaxed claw. Similar to how you demonstrated your grip on the outset ax
We have comparable hand sizes. Used the PULSAR V2 MINI, about equal to the EC2, same feels bulbous. now with the EC3CW, the thumb root is more relaxed.
Get the ec3-c or wait for the outset ax small next year
@@user-vw6pu3mx1z have you ever tried the pulsar xlite? Is it as bulbous cause it kinda looks massive from some angles
@@paulmartinez34 ahh that one is definitely an interesting one. Didn’t know they were releasing a smaller version. I’m currently using the st12 small. Length wise it’s just nice but yeah the hump is flat so stability wise is a lil hard. Love everything about the mouse except the lack of stability
@@lonelymartian1999 Yes, tried. V2 is approximately equal to EC1, V2mini is approximately equal to ec2. Not exactly the same as the EC series. The second half of XLITE is more like DeathAdder V3 Pro, relatively little full
Did you tried playing Quake with this mouse, is it optimal for tracking heavy games with that shape?
In the past yes, no problems for me!
we grip the same way W haus
add the score ratings back why you not doing your score rating anymore? playing koovaks and see if this mouse shape helps to break your previous score.
Heard you adjusted your grip style right after watched 'endgame grip' video you posted 2 years ago! In your past video, you "rest palm on top of the mousepad", like your whole hand and wrist hover over the *mouse. Is that kind of contact still applied to your recent grip?I'm not really sure with the clip at 2:45.
Nope! I lay most of my hand on the pad these days. This forces me to use a sports sleeve which decreases friction with my arm/hand and the pad.
@@hausgaming Thanks! have a nice day
How is this mouse for competitive gameplay if you were to use standard mode. Is it something you can actually notice and feel or just data sheet level.
It's very good even with the standard mode!
Would this be a good option if the NP-01S is too small for me?
I guess so. I have both and imo the AX is like a scaled up NP-01s, which works better for me as I have small hands. Cheers
Id like a smaller version of the outset ax. A bit too big for me. Otherwise i rly like it
Aye mine is arriving today!
Hope you like it!
I see that QGG Neutron Premium cameo! 🔥
Please review finalmouse ultimate X
out of all the mice i have, ive been maining the darmoshark m3 just because it easy for me to keep a solid grip on it without deathgriping the mouse. i think its just because its wide, flatter sided mouse.
Large mice are indeed easier to grip in a relaxed way, after you've learned to not put too much pressure, it gets a lot easier with smaller mice as well!
@@hausgaming awesome. Im gonna have to train myself for a while with m3 until I get out of the habit of squeezing the mouse too much. I’m hoping it will make my x2 mini more comfortable for longer use. Love your content btw man. Keep up the great work 👌🏼
Do you turn both motion and competitive mode on?
I would also like to know the difference latency etc with this mode on
same@@Ejziponken1
The NP-01s i have has had some quality control issues for switch play. However! Even with QC issues. Its still one of the best mice i have ever used. 😂 And thats saying something. 😂
Unlucky for the QC issues brother
@@hausgaming Yeah and they wouldn't let me send it back for a replacement lol But I still ordered the Outset in Blue :)
The NP-01s is a great mouse (I have one yellow) and took the place of my atlantis and thorn. Then came out the Maya and easily took his place for the price range, as I believe there are better mice. Also if I may say so, as I have one too, the ax just feels like a plus sized NP-01s, and for my hand size and grip style I prefer the NP-01s to the AX. Cheers
@Maddog-xc2zv the Maya is a beast. I love that mouse. It's a dream!
I ordered the Thorn but now I’m absolutely torn on whether I made the right purchase.
It's an excellent mouse, better than the vaxee ax in my opinion.
Looks fantastic. My main for months now is the dav v3 with 4k dongle and its my first and only ergo. I have 20x10cm hands and use claw aim and really like my dav v3 but ive wanted a np01s for ages but now with this i dont know. Which one could you recommend over the other?
You have fairly large hands, so the NP-01s is quite small for you. Outset AX would be a safer bet from the two!
I like the ax way more than the dav v3. I own both.
@@hausgaming perfect thanks. I can get the lamzu thorn with a 4k dongle for the same price as an AX. Would that be a better mouse? Heard lots of praise for the thorn
this has nothing to do with the mouse so forgive me, but what dac/amp is that on your desk? is it any good? also not surprise the ax is your main now lol
It's for SS Nova Pro Wireless. Definitely not worth the 350 euros I paid for it.
@@hausgaming thank you for taking the time to answer me
I've been refreshing your channel for the past 2 days, since I bought the OUTSET AX. I have exactly the same handsize and grip of yours, and I buy mice based on your review ALWAYS! Appreciate the great work you've been doing.
Thanks for the comment brother! Hope you will enjoy the AX ❤
It looks like the g703 lol I saw the elo shapes and you'd probably love the 703
They do look pretty similar but the g703 has a symmetrical back hump and doesn't flare out on the right side so they probably don't feel that similar in hand.
I've used the 703 in the past, I do like the shape!
Actually have this and the thorn coming and I’m excited to see what I like more for small hands! Even these look taller than normal I’ve used the model d 2 pro recently and played really well on it. And that mouse was massive🤣
I have a feeling you will love the AX. It feels like the perfect chunky boy for my fairly small hands as well 😌
@@jerrorr yes yes yes and yes 💪🏻
Update? :)
@@jonaskaerup4986 lmao i am still waiting on the thorn to get here.. no idea where its at
@@RyseShineReviews Any update ? I have med-small hands and main Razer orochi v2 (love the shape and feel) but I’ve been wanting to upgrade to something similar to it
My best mouse!
will you review the new glorious pro line up ?
This vs ULX will be interesting
Can't wait to try the ULX!
HOWS the coating compared to glorious, zowie or dav3 wired ?
Razer has some of the worst coatings
@@syf_jojiahhh2834 i know, its mostly plastic, but not the dav3 WIRED and/or Faker edition, its rubburized but smooth ;)
@pav1u yes but they're still cheap and less grippy than zowie ot vaxee by a mile
@@syf_jojiahhh2834that's crazy....deathadder V3 has one of the best coatings ever on a mouse, and I'm saying this as someone who hates razer mice lol
I love the ec2-a, I want to try wireless. But, it s hard to make the good choice today.... So many good mouses. The outset vaxee seems to be very good ! The Logitech g pro superlight seems to be good to and the ec3 cw... The choice is too hard at this price!
Hi Haus, you mention about the shape that Outset is lager than Thorn and Dav3. Is that because of how it feels in hand? because from pure dimensions it looks smaller than Dav3
DAV3 is larger than the Outset, Outset is larger than the Thorn!
@@hausgaming oh i misunderstood it. Thanks!
Will you be reviewing the new Lamzu Maya?
Yes, testing it as we speak!
Caution: This review may cause sudden desire to buy Vaxee Outset AX Wireless gaming mice in some people!!! 🙂
Too late! 😄
Must...resist..the urge... 😄
@@Noneya5555 just let it happen bro 😂
Ordered it after this video
@@Trointis that you in your pfp
what is your main mousepad?
I have many, but atm using the Saturn Pro soft!
is it better than lamzu thorn? dont think so and its 50% more expensive somehow
As a EC3-CW main this mouse is tempting, but I'm afraid my 17x10 hands may be too small.
You probably won't like the AX if you main the EC3, you should probably take a look at the Lamzu Thorn if you feel like you want a bit more palm contact from the back hump. The AX has a huge tall hump at the back which makes it feel a lot bigger than the EC3. It just feels very different in hand compared to the EC3 and the EC2.
@@SweSpy92 i second this. Outset will feel bulky for you unless you palm grip. Thorn would be a safer bet, but maybe even consider staying with ec3.
Outset ax small next year
Can't wait for the outset ax small wired next year
I have both, the Zygen NP-01s like a minus size of the released Outset AX
Devastated Vaxee won't be shipping to APAC anytime soon, as I've been waiting to upgrade to the wireless one for a while now. Love the video!
Same
Ahh shit, hopefully they can sort it out at some point!
You can order to Australia now :)
Nice review as always. Still divided between this one and the Thorn.
Can't go wrong with either one!
@@hausgaming Does it beat the NP01S wireless? The AX?
He had to bring up the debounce setting! xD
The king of reviews 😤
Told you! This one he was talking about
I sadly smashed my wired one 😅 loved this mouse ❤ whats the Price on this one?
$120usd
Why?
@@alexp5913 139€ in Europe. Taxes...
Just wish Vaxee mice were available in the US. 😕
They are? Check their website
@@Gabriel-it5jyVaxee has a US site, but I think the mice ship from Europe.
???? there's the official vaxee page for the US and Canada....... and yeah, sells products...
@@Maddog-xc2zv Yeah, I contacted them, and they told that US orders ship from the US.
Finally outset enjoyers rise up!
nice review :D! btw. clean your lense
It''s the fucking sensor 💀. Dust stuck in it and I can't get it out
@@hausgaming ah shit :(
Dang i kind of wish i got this over the thorn
Thorn is great as well!
Finalmouse review when
Hopefully soon!
I disagree about the weight. Lightweight ergo mice benefit from a mass reduction just as well. The dav3 proves that.
It's not just about being an ergo mouse. DAV3 for example has less curves and hasn't have as aggressive of a hump than the AX, so it's harder to stabilize the DAV3 with palm contact. The DAV3 Pro would most likely not work at all if it were close to 80g.
Did Vaxee change the shape of this mouse from the wired version? I looked up the 3D scans of the wired one on Rtings' site, and compared to the dav3 the two are very similar. I'm having a hard time seeing your point if the wireless version is the same shape as the wired. It seems like both Razer and Vaxee derived these mice from the EC-2, so they're all very similar.@@hausgaming
It's true that the level of grip you play with does effect the apparent weight of a mouse in hand. This effect is less for users who play on fast pads though. The inertia of a mouse becomes more noticeable the less friction you create from the feet and pad. So if you're on glass, or something like my Fnatic jet pad it's a bigger deal than something like a control pad. You can test this yourself. Go try a heavy mouse on glass, and then try it on a control pad. The glass experience compared to the control can be quite terrible.@@Divinity_vA
@@middle_pickup It's the same shape, but you need to understand that 3D scans have nothing to do with hand feel. Certain curves can improve pressure points with mice, the easier it is to apply certain amount of force to the mouse, being it with your palm or with your fingers, the easier it is to control.
Vaxee moment
My only problem with vaxee is that they don’t ship to apac and I can’t get my hand on one 😢
Damn, hopefully they can get it sorted soonish!
Thank you for spelling god tier with a lower case g. There is only one God that deserves the capital G.
dude might need new vid on grip tape not in this Ax review...120$ was too much
No clue what you mean
No 4K and 74g , cant be good 🙃
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@@jonny555333I'm joking lol
Think the OUTSET AX will be too large for my hand size and preferred grip style but I’m a big fan of the Vaxee ZYGEN NP-01S 🔥 Awesome work 🫡
Outset ax small next year
@@paulmartinez34 the ax already seems a plus sized NP-01, I have both - can't see much beneficts on replacing the zygen ith a "smaller" ax, but that's how opinions work