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Quick correction: Casper Pedersen was the Quick-Step rider in the break, not Kasper Asgreen Once the story starts names often go out of the head 😅🤦♂️ 👊👊🦋🦋
You say Kasper, but it was Casper, so it still works, pretty much. :)
I guess the same goes for Johnny Milan.
I mean danish Quickstep rider named Casper. I get why its easy to confuse them 😅
So many Danish riders!
What happens when Kasper Asgreen mates with Mads Peterson? Casper Pedersen!
I’m reminded of of that time Cancellara crashed and said he cried not from the pain of his broken bones but from the realization he couldn’t continue the race.
Exactly. The missed races are always the big pain. 😬🦋😬
3 thing's: Some truth about Cancellara saying Wout spreads himself to thin with cross, domestique, and personal ambitions.. Secondly - coincidence this was his second crash in less than two weeks? Lastly, gutted for him, but maybe too much added extra pressure on self with winning the missing monuments from his palmares has him racing in a non relaxed mindset? (more obvious with pro football/soccer striker's when they have goal droughts -but once one is scored, you can 'see' the weight lifted off their shoulders. I feel like this has been Wout with his last few races) And in the buildup to his spring campaign?!? 🤔🤷♂️
@@fernandotorres72587 other years maybe, but Wout has been on training camp for three weeks, skipped cyclocross races Tirreno, strade, san remo etc. This year he was focused on himself. So the Cancellara argument holds no water this season.
@@fernandotorres72587also, he did already win Kuurne, so not nothing and this race is just a general rehearsal for the big race Sunday.
Oh man pro cyclings are made from something different, not just in heart legs and lungs but in the mental fortitude
Watching Josh Tarling refuse to give up was a thing of beauty. True grit for sixth place.
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Yeah, that was painful to watch, but what a beast. Wonder what watts he was churning out.
@@ChrisHornerCycling Yep, two more seasons he will be the next Kung on the road
What an awful crash. (Most) bike racers aren’t paid nearly enough for the personal risk they take every day they pin down a number. Labor of love.
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Man, what a shame, was looking forward to seeing Wout and MVDP battle it out in the remaining classics and what Wout could do in the Giro, Seeing him in the Tour would be a nice consolation though. Wishing all of those hurt a speedy recovery 🙏
Yesterday was such a sad day. I love cycling. Im danish so of course i cheer for the danish raiders, but mostly i just love to watch cycling, which i have been doing since mid 80' s and the last 5 years or so, something has happened in cycling that makes it so much more exiting to watch. Almost every race is a blast of aggresivness and opportunistic racing that it makes my heart sing with joy and we live in a time with so many big talents. I fell so bleesed and of course love Mads P and Jonas a little bit more than the others, but just really love to see them all ride. MvDP, Pogi, Wout, Remco, roglic and alot of new talents coming. It is exiting times to be a cycling fan. So when something like that happens like yesterday, i get really sad. Wout season destroyed, styrven, Lidl Trek looked so strong, i actually thought they could give alpecin a real fight. SOOOO Sad. We want the best riders at the big races and we want the best man to win on the day, even though it is not ones farvorite. Well thats my opinion. Please all race organicers. TAKE CARE of the raiders and their health. Racing today is so aggressive, competitive and entertaining, that you can easily make the parkours more SAFE without it getting boring. PLEASE
That is going to be a very tough recovery for Wout. Damn crashes.
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Yeah. With broken ribs and sternum at 30 years old I can’t expect him to ever return to his same form.
but why start if it is not your season goal
Speaking from experience, it is a horrific injury where I'm still experiencing 8 out of 10 pain two weeks in (broken ribs). It is by far the worst pain I've ever had in my life and it is 24/7. My thoughts are with him
Wonderful race breakdown Chris - Thanks. Bummer for the guys in the crash, a real shame for them. I hope they recover soon.
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@@ChrisHornerCycling I raced Dirt Bikes in the 70's as a kid. Seriously it was way less dangerous than modern bike racing. I'd be scared to get in a bike race now. 😞
Benoot is surely the best team mate in these 1 day spring races. He always managers to create chaos for the other teams.
He was visibly shaken at the finish as he believes a) Wout hit him b) he was the initiator of the crash at 68km to go.
Agreed. Lol that man is always there to force the opponents hand.
Wout isn’t one of my favorite riders, but it’s devastating to see him suffering and even more so, witnessing how a fine athlete’s season focus just evaporates like that. We will miss him in Flanders, PR and Amsteel. Get well soon!
The "Knucklehead" calls never get old. 😁
I laugh out loud every single time 😂
Maybe a "bozo" or "numbskull" to mix it up a bit.
Chris can barely catch his breath ! He's into it !
Thanks Chris thanks Garrett for all your time and work on the show awesome job as usual
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If Wout still has eyes on the Olympics I'd say he won't be going to the TdF unless Visma insists. It truly was heartbreaking to hear and see him suffering like that. I imagine his emotions were equal part from pain and from realizing his immediate goals have disappeared. I've had broken ribs and a lung punctured and that's bad enough. Add in a broken clavicle and that road rash....💀 A BIG congrats to Matty J. His post race interview he was asked about being the leader in Tour of Flanders and he didn't even hesitate whe he said he hoped not. Basically saying he hoped Wout would be good to go. I appreciate his humbleness. He's brand new on the team and doesn't want to overshadow any of the veterans. I think this kid has a long and very successful career ahead of him if he continues to do what he seems to be capable of. As always, thanks for a great recap and thanks for breaking down the crash with still shots. As many times as they showed it I just couldn't wrap my head around what was happening.
I hope Wout focuses on healing and recovery, and prioritizes his health and fitness for the rest of the season. That was a much too large a crash to think about multiple major stage race entries this year. I agree with Chris, TdF and then rebuild rides this year for momentum into next year.
Thanks Chris and Garrett
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Gutted for WVA and again Tarling continues to amaze me. Great breakdown Chris.
KICK ASS breakdown Chris. Best one yet. I wont even bother watching Lantern. 😆. Such a shame that all of those big guns went down today, especially Biniam who looked to really have his positioning issues totally worked out and sitting really good in that all star group. such a bummer. I was hoping Riley Sheehan would be in that group but looks like he crossed the line just outside of top 20 (25th).
Tarling is practically a kid..amazing
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Future Roubaix winner alongside Jonny Meeeeelaaaaan!
Boise's finest Matteo Jorgensen is a total stud
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Will he be Jumbo's leader now in RVV and PR?
@@TheSlowoldman depends on where Laporte is...
@TheSlowoldman RVV yes P-R I don't know..
Love your energy and insight, Chris. Thank you for taking the time to keep us informed
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man i love your style of race coverage, the former pro perspective is always interesting
Thanks, Chris!
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“What I’m telling you now might not even be facts.” Best commentator comment ever!!! 😂😂😂
Crazy Chris !
Love your breakdowns, thanks for helping us knuckleheads understand racing better
Amazing breakdown of this chaos called a race!! Thank you Mr. Chris!!
Ugh really wanted to watch WVA vs MVDP on Sunday. But I do want to see an in form Wout hammering breakaways in the TDF
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As much as I like the idea of 1vs1 with those two. It's quite evident that Visma has a way stronger team and due to that I don't really believe that Visma would be betting their odds on a man on man battle. They would likely do everything they can to launch guys like van Baarle&Jorgenson to exhaust MvdP. You tell me, what's the last time that WvA got rid of MvdP on a hill? Let alone a cobbled one. He can beat MvdP in a sprint that's for sure.
The last time WvA lost MvdP on a climb was multiple times in last years TdF. Wout destroyed MvdP there. @@Legionarivss
@@mikedittsche That wasn't MvdP competing for something. MvdP isn't trying to hold onto a climb in a grand tour when he isn't competing to win that stage. I might had to clarify that, but what I meant are the objectives. The one day race types where he has set his sight on, so an objective.
@@Legionarivss they both were trying to win a stage there and were in the attacking groups in at least two stages as far as I remember.
Where can I order one of those "Horner" Chesterfields? Classic Chris Horner enthusiasm and insight into bike racing. Brilliant. I mean....Johnny Milan!!! Devastated for Van Aert but Jorgensen might just be the signing of the season.
chris - this was one of the finest race analyses you've ever done, and i really enjoy your videos. i watched the race earlier this morning - at work, of course - and for the life of me, i could not figure out what in the world these teams were thinking. but the tactical challenges presented today were like a novel attack in a chess game. sadly, i was in a checkers frame of mind this morning. so thanks for the madison. i look forward to flanders. and the tour!
Jorgensen is the new Laporte for JV. Another new breakthrough rider. Looks like everything clicking nicely for Jorgensen. I feel for WVA. Wanted so badly to win Flanders and Roubaix, adjust his schedule, then boom he broke his collarbone and ribs. Puff, cruel sport. He must be feeling the pressure with his age is creeping in and his nemesis has won 4 monuments. O well, I guess he is back to domestique duty for Jonas again.
The beauty of this sport is how quickly dreams are wrecked and dreams are made on the very same day. So many times I have felt this through out my career and wouldn’t want it any other way. 🦋👊
There is the Olympic road race this year which was also WVA’s target and perhaps he will be back in time for that race but of course his preparation will be very deficient.
Yes, another one. In few months time, as usual in this team. Natural, too?
@@radokostanjevic5478 Yawn more conspiracy theories. Fact is that top teams like VLB attract the best riders who all want to ride fir them. .
@@epincion , we all know that.. like UAE and others. But in other teams the riders advance “normally”, step by step. In JV (VLB) some become monsters in the matter of months. And this is not normal.
Chris phenomenal insight and analysis - thank you!
Always great coverage, thanks Chris. In my mind, Wout is always trying to do too much. As painful as the crash was, this may be the break he needs to finish the season really strong. Van der Poel certainly came back stronger after his time off with his back issues. Hoping Wout can reap some benefit from a little down time and we'll see some great battles later in the season. Cheers.
Matt's on 🔥 since he jumped ship! Good news Wout will be in the tour ya think. He didn't look good I was thinking 2024 is in the books for him. Great race coverage as always 👍🏻🚴🏼♀️💯
Thanks....great description.....
Was watching this live yesterday - absolutely gutting that so many great riders went down - the other big winner maybe Pithie as he would probably have been involved in the crash if he hadn’t had his bike issue. Hope they all recover well and soon 🤞🤞
I gotta say, this was one of your most enjoyable breakdowns. Great job covering the chaotic finish. What a race! And that giant statue at the end... yikes! lol
What a hoot Chris doesnt stop to breathe...wonderful stuff!
Thanks Chris. This was a great review of the race
Matteo this year's Laporte lovin' that Jumbo juice..."magnificent form" says Chesterfield Chris😉
Another great race analysis Chris, you do a brilliant job. Good to see you still riding the bike and looking so fit.
Excellent break down of the race, Chris. After the race, Jorgenson gave a lot of credit to Tiejs Benoot for his win. Also Jorgenson said he likes it when the racing is hard. He thinks it gives him a better chance to use his strength. When Jorgenson signed with VIsma, I was very excited to see how he would do. I personally thought he would be a very good rider for the classics. Thus far, it has been a great signing for both Visma-Lease A Bike and Jorgenson.
Hi Chris. I’m glad to see you again. John OK USA
As usual Chris, great analysis and good insights....heal well Wout.
Man!!!!! Horner is such a great announcer. Why isn't he on the NBC announcing crew?
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Because he. Isn’t. as good as Bob Roll and Christian V.
@@edgibbs3229Chris is very analytical and that's very different than what Bob and Christian are. It's not good or bad, just a different view of things. I like all three for what they bring to the table.
because Vandevelde polled better with a certain demographic of viewers.
Contractural disagreement maybe? Chris' current video editor will never let you see the man inhale or take a breath between sentences, can't get that guarantee on live television.... I'd love to see just Roll and Horner doing the announcing. Guarantee it'd be highest ratings ever.
I like this a lot😊 white my Norwegian hat and my feelings for UnoX…. what Are you think about Abrahamsen? He has been almost every break this spring.
These things I am going to tell you, might not even be facts😂😂 It's this level of enthusiasm and analysis, is why I love watching the Butterfly Effect
What a race. I was just hoping that when we started shooting the video I didn’t forget some very important detail in the race. I was lucky to only mix up the name of Kasper for Casper. 😂👊🦋
Great call Chris, really enjoyed it. Can’t wait for Sunday. Regards mate.
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Brutal race....fantastic
OMG it hurts just to see Wout's back,poor guy i hope he does better 😢
Great to see Laurence Pithie on the world stage. I raced with his father and I've watched Laurence's dominance in schools racing for years.
Brilliant !
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The classics need two special ingriedients to be more than just exciting, it's MVDP &WVA... if one is missing, it's just a race! Speedy recovery for Wout from a Matthieu fanboy 🙏🙏💪
Nice one Chris. 👍
Get well soon, Wout. I guess it is time for plan B for Wout and Visma LAB.
TDF 😉🤞🙏🦋👊
Abrahamsen was a beast. Never skipped a turn on the front even though he was from the long breakaway.
Season is over until the Tour. No excitement left for the rest of the spring. MVPD is the luckiest bastard in the world.
Yep it’s going to be boring as duck watching Flanders and Paris Roubaix - at least Evenepoel will make LBL interesting
Great video Chris, feel gutted after that crash, yet happy for the fellow American.
Jorg was brilliant 👊🦋💪
Awesome breakdown
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Thanks Chris...that was a tough crash .. Papillon !!
Right at the still you have at 6:58 you can see Van Aert hit the ground. Crazy man, everything can change in a mere moment
Teej Benoit doesn't get the credit he deserves. The guy mis a must in any team. That year jumbo worked over tadej was due to him separating pogi from his team. He was perfectly positioned to sit up and let rog and jonas double team pogi that day. I've watched the tape and he's worth his weight in gold. No wonder he's always a first pick for the big races. Plus he's no slouch in the mountains. One of many unsung heroes
Cracking review as always Chris 👏🏻👏🏻 so you you backing for Sunday 🤔😀
My best to Wout, I like the big guy. I hope to see some Wout van Aert'isms at the TofF.
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The Dictatorial Danish Anchovy must be licking his lips now😂😂
It was a crazy race, visma did a great teamwork with benoot and Jorgenson. The form that Jorgenson has right now it's incredible, let's see if he can be at this level a Tour de France
As usual .. on point. Gracias Campeón.
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The spring classics must be horrendous to ride. The cold, the pace, the cobbles. Intense.
Wout 😭 (but wow, Matteo!}
Right a stud see him riding here locally during summers
Jorgensen was spectacular 🔥🦋👊
thanks Chris...
Have always loved your analysis Chris. Got a question on this one. Latest report has it that Wout had multiple broken ribs and broken collar bone. Also Het Laatste Nieuws reported that he underwent surgery last night and also reported that he had a broken sternum. With recovery times for broken ribs and collar bone being 6 to 8 weeks, and for a broken sternum around 10 weeks, do you really think that he can be prepared and at 100% by July for Le Tour de France?
WVA making the TDF is quite a leap, recovering from these injuries will take at least two months, doesn't leave him a lot of time to prepare properly to be of major importance to Vingegaard.
He can train indoors and not lose that much. In fact; he could improve his fitness if he does he Zwift for training. I remember a Paris/Roubaix winner who trained Zwift after he crashed. Can't remember his name.
@@fernandovega5722 That was Ozzie Matthew Hayman, after breaking his wrist, remarkable indeed. Hopefully that would work for WVA as well.
I thought Jorgenson was slotted in to play the WVA role in the TdF. IMO, barring injury, Jorgenson will fill that role very well, so WVA may not even be needed.
@@gulfgal98 Jorgenson without a doubt will be in the TdF squad, if WvA would be slotted in Jorgenson's role may change from superdomestique to back up GC contender!
Great week of racing and more to come.
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Beautiful
Matteo was incredible today. I knew it was over when he went and there was no reaction whatsoever LOL. Real bummer for Wout.
Thanks for the analysis, I was waiting for this one. I thought that it was possible that the tour would be in the picture for WVA now, but I have 0 personal experience with broken ribs and didn’t know if that would be an option. That crash was rough. Wout hit the ground hard and stopped so quickly. No rolling or skidding to reduce the force on his side. I’m assuming the checked his spine and neck when he was being scanned, I was worried about deeper injuries. I’ve seen a lot of nasty crashes when watching cycling but nothing has been as gut wrenching as seeing Wout trying to scoot himself out of the center of the road. When I heard that cry I thought it was more out of frustration and anguish over the lost season than pain. I’m sure he was in a lot of pain, but I think he was more upset about his season. He sacrificed so much over the past 5 months, dropping cx races and reducing early race. Lots of mixed feelings after seeing Jorgensen win. Did you watch e3? I got the feeling that Wouts pursuit of MVDP after his crash was primarily to entice Jorgenson’s group into following and pulling Jorgenson up. Then that group could’ve caught MVDP and Jorgensen might’ve been fresh enough to put in an attack similar to this one. Then when Wout realized that was going to happen he eased off. Wishing Wout a speedy recovery! I hope he’s able to mentally bounce back from such a rough event during a season that was so important to him.
Broken ribs aren't that bad unless you want to breathe or laugh. It's excruciating to do either depending on the severity of the break. They can puncture your lungs which can be really serious. I have broken ribs a number of times and have had my lungs punctured by the broken ribs. It's no fun.
Let’s hope it’s a quick recovery 🍀🤞🦋💪👊
I broke ribs in a car crash and punctured a lung. They healed quite quickly--maybe 4 weeks--and I was in my later 30s at the time. I never broke my collarbone thankfully. I imagine there's a lot of ways that can fracture and different approaches for the repair and recovery. For pro athletes it must screw up their training massively. I doubt 5 hours on the bike is feasible for a while.
Hate seeing such a big wreck like this anytime, but especially knowing that it’s going to have such an impact on this years racing. Chris - curious if you think WVA has any chance of being back with any kind of form for the TdF, now that we know the extent of his injuries? TdF is only 3 months away, and I’d be surprised if he can even ride a trainer for 5-6 weeks.
Did you notice how they put new tarmac on the "bike lane" and with that created a ridge between the bike lane and the rest of the road.. That's what caused the chaos and destroyed Wout's spring season.
Sorry but that's completely incorrect...... Even the riders themselves stated this yesterday already.... The crash was caused because Wout van Aert did touch the rear wheel from Benoot with his own front wing... .... We knew this yesterday already, it has only been written down on every cycling forum and newspaper (In Belgium at least.). ✌
😢 Wout..!
True that. Ouch. The classics are so ridiculously dangerous. 😬😳🥲🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Chesterfield! Good choice. Great content!
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Great coverage as usual, Chris! I'm curious - why do you think were they riding so insanely especially in the earlier stages of the race? It seems like a lot of risk to be taking for the Dwars Door Vlaanderen given everything else that is coming up relatively soon in the season. It did make for some entertaining racing minus the big crash of course - I hope all of those guys recover quickly. Congrats to Jorgensen - that was quite a ride.
I think all the races have more importance now and the teams are looking to catch the other riders off guard any where they can. 🤔🦋👊🔥
@@ChrisHornerCycling That's a great answer - that makes complete sense. It was pretty amazing to see them hammering it curb to curb on a five lane road. Thank you for the direct reply as well - it's greatly appreciated!
Heal fast WVA.
That team is called Lidl-Trek
Thanks, Chris. And Garrett. I’m heartbroken. And does any of this have an affect on TdF because of the Olympics? 👊 🦋❤
Let’s hope the healing is fast 🤞🍀🦋💪
Hi Chris, any chance you would do live commenting of races on your channel?
Casper Pedersen, not Kasper Asgreen, was for Soudal
Send my apologies to Casper. When the video starts the head goes to the poplar name every time 😂👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling You was perfect for 22 minutes, doesn't matter just this
Asgreen Will not pop like Casper Pedersen. But its okay Chris. The danes are all over it 😉
BOOYA!
Booya. What a day of racing. 😬🔥😳 👊🏆 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
That tail wind flag even got caught by you. 👍👍👍
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good commentary - i agree Wout is out for a while and even staying in condition with ribs and shoulder healing will be challenging - how soon can he get back on the trainer?? as much as i hate to see MVDP have it easier in the classics i think your view on TDF is valid and hopeful
I started seeing updates on this today and it was pretty shocking to see all those names in the crash. This has to be sending some shockwaves for the rest of the season. If injuries are as bad as thought, I'm not sure how WVA is back by July. Seems like a tough task in about 3 months.
Six weeks and all is healed for normal clean breaks. But complicated ones are another story. I have had many complete (not fractured) broken ribs and they heal up pretty fast. Let’s hope they are not complicated breaks. 🤞🦋💪
My grandmother broke 3 ribs at 75. Healed super fast. Thought we had lost her after that fall. A young cat like wout should be able to recover pretty fast. 😊
That was crazy… all these crashes… 😵💫
Absolutely crazy out there. We were told that it took a hour of racing before the break even got away. 😬🦋🔥
@@ChrisHornerCycling 😬
WVA also broke his Sternum, so even the TDF will be very difficult to ride.
gosh darnit!
Exactly 😬🦋
To me a looked like WVA had lost a couple of kg's to, it looked like he took a really bad fall, I wish all the riders a speedy recovery, and hopefully no-body comes out with lingering injuries.
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Good to see Valgren back after his broken pelvis in 2022.Bad luck for Wout...I wish him a speedy recovery.But as a Dane my main concern is Mads P....His task to get a monument will be even more difficult now without Stuyven and Kirsch....Get well soon guys)
Küng never ride smart, but he’s strong… 😂😂😂
Is Wout season over? Olympic over? how long will a rider to get back to race winning shape after collarbone/ribs break? wks? mts?
Tour the France as Chris said, competively out till July.
No. Six weeks if they are normal breaks to be something close to 100% healed assuming you didn’t do something stupid while they were healing. If the collar bone is plated that will be ready in five days. The ribs will take six weeks to be completely healed but riding/training (not racing) can start as soon as three weeks if the break is not ridiculously bad. My ribs were broken seriously bad and I was on the trainer in four weeks and raced tour Slovenia that started a couple weeks before the TdF in 2014 and I broke my ribs a week later then Wout did today. With a little luck he makes the TdF and national championships (maybe a little off of top form though) and be going really good again by the middle of the TdF. The first week or the TdF he may suffer a bit. 😬🤞🍀🦋💪
@@saulgood6909Mads Pedersen didn't break anything, but was heavily bruised. He wil start Flanders with his body still hurting everywhere, so a win would be an absolute miracle. There is a chance he could recover fully for Roubaix, but still he will miss training sessions and it will definitely hurt his chances.
@@holmbjergMads might be sensible to sit out Tour of Flanders if Paris -Roubaix is his main target.
Although I agree with you on the whole, I personally think the classics are at least on par with the TdF 😜
People in the US will not understand this probably.... But the Tour of Flanders too us is like having the Super Bowl, thanksgiving, christmas and the birth of your first child, all on one and the same day.. All the other cobble classics have no value compared with the Tour of Flanders... (Don't understand me wrong, we love and admire these other races too, but we consider them as one big "build up" towards De Ronde.). Normaly we should have expected about a million people on the sides of the roads this next Sunday, in a country that has just a little more than 10 million inhabitants. (Just to give you a feeling of how popular this sport is overhere.) With the crash of Wout and all the other unlucky ones, it feels like they have decapitated the tour of Flanders... What should have become one big celebration of the cycling sport next Sunday, has now been taken away from us. For most people in the Flanders it will now be just a regular Sunday..... Sure we will watch the race, although most Flemish people don't feel like it at this moment, sure we will applaud the riders, but it will not be the same... This years edition will be one to forget very quick, that's the feeling in Flanders right now... And I do have to admit in all honesty that I am also guilty to those feelings. I do not live that far from Antwerp where the riders will start on Sunday, and it was our plan to go watch the riders during the presentation before the race... But after yesterday we are not in the mood anymore... and I know many, many, many Belgian cyclingfans who feel exactly the same. If I would have to compare the popularity of Wout van Aert in Belgium with an American sporter in the US, I can only come up with Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant or that American football guy who won the NFL title about a hundred times... Thus Wout not being present in the tour of Flanders... is like ...😔
11:10 That is Not Kasper Asgreen, that is Casper Pedersen 😅
It's Casper Pedersen Chris 😂😂
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Chris, LOVE listening to you man! Seriously. But you gotta grab a chair, a desk, and a fancy mic, and fold your hands together! I can't even with your big hands all over in front of the camera! 😅