Volvo XC90 V8 vs T8!! 2009 XC90 vs 2024 XC90 Comparison!
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Today I compare both generations of the Volvo XC90. The original P2, or the new SPA platform? Which will win!
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0:00 - Intro
0:54 - About these XC90's
2:36 - About the V8
4:39 - About the T8
6:18 - Platform Differences & Wheel Options
10:01 - Trunk Space & Towing Capacity
12:18 - Third Row Comparo
15:14 - Second Row Comparo
19:27 - Front Row Comparooo
26:16 - Driving Impressions
34:08 - Closing
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They're both beautiful the front end on the older model never gets old 😍
I totally agree!!
I really enjoy how detailed and thorough your videos are. A great comparison! You’ve certainly got me convinced to upgrade from my T5 to a V8 but you’ve set the bar so high with your executive model.
I appreciate that!! Haha nice! Yeah I wanted an Exec so bad, thrilled I found one!
35 minutes of pleasure! : )
Thank you!!
Man that intro monologue👌
I LOVE your enthusiasm for these old bricks! The XC90 V8 will always be on my list of Volvos I want to own. Currently have a P80 V70 XC and P2 XC70 (have also owned a P3 XC70 T6, C30 T5 V2.0 and S40 2.4i manual transmission at one point and loved them all for different reasons). There’s just something…. special about the P2 Volvos. I’m one to always try and have a 3 car garage (in case one of them needs some extra time being worked on in the garage 😂) and keep going between an XC90 V8 and a P2 R. It’ll be a hard choice when the time comes. Thank you again Bern for all you do and keeping another P2 alive!
Thank you!!! I’m really so pleased to have found one! Nice, a good little fleet! I myself want to get more P2’s eventually LOL
I have the old xc 90 in black and I still love it
Nice!!
2:07 Bang & Olufsen vs Bowers & Wilkins, BIG difference 😂
I have a fully loaded 2017 XC90 T6 R-Design. Its been great to drive for the past 7 years and plan on keeping it another few years (still under 70,000 miles). I enjoy your throwback XC90 videos and seeing how the XC90's have evolved over the years.
Nice that's excellent! I appreciate that! Plenty more to come 😁
Love this review. Great job!
Thank you!!
Thanks! Keep up the awesome work!
Ohhh woww thank you!! I certainly will!
I like to see Bern doing his thang!!! I see you playboy with the fridge!!! I thought that was hype!!!
Yes sir!!! Hahaha thanks man 😆
THANK YOU, wonderful comparison.
Thank you!!
Time to sell one of my kidneys to buy a 2024 😂
Literally 😂😂😂
I have the Old XC90 T6 and I think I'ma need to sell a kidney just to afford the fuckin fuel 😭
@iz2904 Dammm haha. I used to have a Volvo S60 T5 I will say that even was a bitch on gas
@kevinftw16 I have an S40 T5 also, and it's WAY worse than the 2.4i s40 I just sold lmfao & I thought 2.4 was bad I thought 0.1 wouldn't make too much of a difference, but it really does 😭 Now I'm stuck with a 2.9 T6 and a 2.5 T5 lool 😬
@@iz2904 Haha. Mine was a 2.4 2006 S60 T5 I regret selling it.. gas mileage was probably my fault anyways... It was hard to resist doing 0-100 every chance I could get 🤣😂
I was hoovering my 2009 model last night and also realized you can slide 2nd row of seats!! Its amazing feature that makes more space for 3rd row kids sitting there!!! Loving it
Haha that's excellent!!
Hi Bern, You are the Volvo Equivalent of "Car Talk." Your voice is late night radio quality, your delivery is spontaneous and smooth. I am a FAN. Look for questions from me about when you 'lifted' Thor. Best to you.
Ohh thank you!! I appreciate that!
Great video 👌
Thank you!
What a great video. We have a 2012 XC90... love it.
Thank you very much! Nice! They are so excellent!
Your video has me all the more thankful for Falkor, my P2 2012 Volvo XC90 3.2 FWD Premier Plus in Ice White! I recently had mine in the Volvo shop for a few days for repairs and I was given a loaner 2024 S60 B5 Black Edition. All of its tech with the large touch screen, outside cameras, heated seats, mild hybrid configuration, and automatic side mirrors really impressed me, but by the end I was ready to return to the familiarity of my own XC90. If I were to adopt all the technological complexity and flair of the S60 into a 2024 XC90, I'd be worried about which electrical component would be the first to fail. It's one thing to address a mechanical or electrical sensor issue on my older 2012 model, but the computerization of the newer vehicles really concern me. The initial drive with the S60's new car smell was definitely the stuff of dreams and I was truly smitten for a couple days! However, what happens when that novelty wears off over time and one electrical fault can potentially cascade into another? Even though I work in IT support, I find myself wanting to maintain balance with how much technology is in my vehicle. This is what solidifies my preference for older vehicles that consider power windows, keyless remotes, parking sensors, and built-in bluetooth a luxury tech feature. At the end of the day, I just want something that can connect my phone for Spotify and reliably take me from point A to B with some comfortable, yet simple amenities. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a robot that's willing to give me the world on a silver touch-sensitive platter. Yes, the tech in my P2 2012 feels worlds away from the SPA platform and even antiquated, but such character is what endears me to it. Since I was told years ago by a dealer shop that installing a third-party tablet on my front console would render the stock rear DVD players useless, I continue to use the standard layout to this day. Heck, I got excited the other day to find a portable speaker with a 30-pin iPod connector dock that allowed me to use my newly refreshed iPod Classic and iPod Mini devices! Perhaps I am turning into an out-of-touch soul at the age of 43 compared to the younger generations. LOL
Thank you! I appreciate that! I totally agree, that's why I prefer older cars too! Plus the more rewarding driving experience too.
I love your footage taken far away to car look better proportion. Good Job!!!
Thank you!! I appreciate that! 😆
Surprisingly, Volvo lost that "bank vault" door sometime in the '10s. My 2006 S60 still sounded like a bank vault, but my 2017 V60 Cross Country doesn't. Ironically, I have an open recall for the door latches on the V60 because they might disengage partially if a large enough shock hits it (like accidentally jumping a crowned intersection at 50mph because you're lost in a city you don't know). I did want an XC90 V8 but sadly there weren't any in my area. Yours looks stellar and I'm kinda jealous 😂 I had a former friend get annoyed with me because once he saw my V60 covered in mud when I almost got stuck on my friend's farm. He berated me because "I don't have a rally car" and I said, "ok..." I like how the SPA models were equal parts reinvention and evolution. I've heard the sport seats are too firm and when I got my V60, I had to get used to the sport seats as well, but the standard comfort seats regardless of chassis are incredible. Hilariously I think my V60 has Sensus 2(?) but it does everything I need it to. I don't have a real reason to need a screen like the SPA models and I'd rather not be distracted by it. One thing I love about the P2 and P3 cars is you can still get a Bilstein suspension kit for them. I started off mildly with the S60, getting the B4 OE kit and then stepping up to the B6 kit, but in the V60 I went with the standard model's B12 kit. I lost maybe a half inch of ground cleareance, but I gained a MUCH more neutral handling characteristic. On the factory suspension, the rear end would come out suddenly, but with the B12 kit, it's more neutral. No matter what I had on the S60, it was always nose-heavy, so I got used to it. One thing that surprised both me and a buddy: The P3 V60 Cross Country weighs 4000lbs. He'd driven it a couple times and said, "It feels like a truck, but handles well. No wonder it needs the turbo." We laughed about it because the S60's problem was its turning radius was within 3 feet of a Lamborghini Diablo or Chevrolet Tahoe.
You give MotorWeek vibes. Awesome!
I appreciate that!! I love Motorweek so that makes me feel good 😂
Drove both. I’ve had eyes for an XC90 for 20 years. When P2 got long in the tooth, I knew it stood the test of time in terms of build quality. I got a SPA Platform XC90 CPO last month and I agree with you on several points-it’s a cruiser, it’s safe feeling, it’s a nod to how much luxurious an SUV can be without making it too detached from its roots. We will see how my 2023 XC90 is at 50,000 miles.
Nice, yeah well said! I hope you enjoy your 23!!
my s90 just hot 80k and I've only had to do brakes and tires. love the car and still don't want anything else..
I love the XC90 and I also have a 1st gen. A 2008 which still feels like it’s something special when I drive it. That’s for a very nice review and video. *****
Nice, yeah they certainly have a special feeling to them! Not the same as the new one!
6:38 the GX470 was pretty much the biggest of the midsized three row luxury SUVs in the 2000's. I think the only one bigger than that in this segment back then was the Lincoln Aviator and Mercury Mountaineer (both based on the Ford Explorer).
I think it's important to look at these of cars from an objective standpoint and not let nostalgia get in the w-, nah fuck it, old one BECAUSE V8 MOTOR
Older is better ‼️‼️
Nice video. I have a xc90 2007 D5 originally a 5 seater that I converted into a 7 seater. In from South Africa
Oh wow nice! Thanks!
Love your Volvo videos Bern. You really need to find yourself a P2 D5 XC90 to drive, they're absolutely sweet with all their low end diesel torque, and excellent economy. Unsure you'll find one in North America, but if you're ever in Aus, you're welcome to drive my 2010 XC90 D5 Executive.
Thanks man! I’d love to drive a D5 one day, certainly on my bucket list! I appreciate that!
Great comparison! The first gen still looks amazing after all these years, definitely a classy and looker Volvo. The new one looks just amazing next to the V8 one. That’s what you call a proper evolution of the first gen design.
Thank you! I totally agree. Thanks for stopping by!
@@BernonCars anytime! First video I saw of yours was about the S60. That lead me to buy my current ‘18 R-Design. 😊
Ahh you gotta love the V8 sound!!! Awesome !!! Might try to find one for me now as my wife stole my D5 literally from me 😂😅
I love it!! LOL that's funny XD
i have the new s90 but i had the xc90 executive v8 a few years ago and i still miss it
They’re such great vehicles!
Very comprehensive review … makes we wonder whether I should just buy the older model and save $$$ 😅
Thank you! I vouch for the old one!
The older XC90 V8 have more consistent power from its pure V8 engine where the newer T8 is only a "T8" when you have enough battery for its electric motor. Otherwise the T8 will eventually become a FWD T6. When you do fancy doing full EV mind you it'll be a very short commute and it'll be a... P2 (maybe P3) performance. P, from electrified Polestar cars that's why I didn't say T2 or T3. Basically I do understand why the older XC90 is preferable. As for a family car I'll take the new T8. As for a driver's 5 door wagon... I'll go for a V60, V70 or a V90 (proper V90 NOT V90 CC). Yes I do prefer sitting that low. I do enjoy that V8 sounds though and the older XC90 is still more than enough as a family car.
Dude great video, where can i find one Executive. Let me know if you have one or know someone selling
Thank you!! They’re so hard to find. I check Facebook and AutoTempest!
21:36 Hi. Great review. I am new to your channel and have a 2008 XC90. Debating whether I should upgrade (tech, body, and parts) or bite the bullet to purchase a newer one. Using my cell phone’s display with the AUX port for sound does okay but prefer something modern. You mention a Legend Head-unit. Can you provide some details please? Thanks, -Jake…
Thank you! Glad you found me! I would upgrade your current one, it would feel sooo different. I just refreshed mine with new parts and it's a whole new experience now!
Nice comparison. What’s first on your list for your V8?
Thank you! First will be the diff! I’ve just been slowly saving up for that job 😂
P2 still has the "utilitarian" look we loved as a family. The new one is too expensive, too delicate. We bought Volvos when they were nicer Subarus not ersatz BMWs.
Exactly! They feel much less fragile than the new ones. They like being used!
Dude, you didn't even mention that the v8 is made by Yamaha, which is a major detail.
Hi, I am planning to buy old model of xc90, but not sure which one will be more reliable 3.2 or v8? Please advise 🙏
The 3.2 is easier to fix and has more affordable parts I would say, but the V8 isn't bad either!
You have the most complete version of the XC90 V8 I have ever seen. Sound system, sunroof, perforated seats with massage, third-row climate control, second-row multimedia system, and the refrigerator, which I see for the first time in this car. So I was left with questions, does it have the factory 6-CD changer and Nivomat self leveling shocks?
I was sooo thrilled to find it! I do have the 6 disk changer, but not quite sure if I have Nivomats or not!
Late to the comment here! I bet you do have the novimat. I just had to change out my rear shocks 3 months ago and they were novimat. And I only have a P2 3.2 awd. I ended up replacing them with regular shocks (volvo wanted well over $2,000 to replace the novimats) So i imagine you would definitely have novimats being fully loaded if they havent been replaced already.
Got your armored rock shield underneath yet, @Bern?
Not yet!!! But I plan on it 😂
Yeah, I’m probably gonna get the 2008 version with a V-8 engine with all wheel drive
Nice, you’ll love it!
The V8 is simply the best
Yes it is!
If I am not wrong the xc90 V8 only available from 2007 to 2010? And how many options are there in V8?
The V8 came out for 2005 and went until 2011!
@BernonCars I need a website for a store that supplies parts for my VOLVO XC 90 4.4 2008, do you have anything you can recommend to me?
FCP Euro!
I'm buying my first volvo xc90 v8, I live in Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 Picking it up from Montreal Quebec Canada in two weeks time, I'm excited 😊. I'm driving a 1983 BMW 533i, I got two e28's, I won't drive it this winter
Nice!! That’s exciting!
I get close to 28-30 MPG in my V8 90 on the highway, not bad at all.
28-30!! That’s crazy! How fast are you going?
@@BernonCars That's doing 100 KPH. About 8-8.5 L per 100 KLM, which I believe is roughly 28 MPG. She drinks when towing though, which I was doing regularly and with up to 3000 KG on the back.... But too many oil leaks developing, so I use another tow car now.
Hi. I loved your comparison review of the XC90 V8 versus the T8. I have a 2009 XC90 V8 for the past 9 years and I love it so much that I refuse to change my car because there really is no replacement for it. I paid £12,400 for it in 2015 and was told recently by a car dealer that I could still get 10k for it! Would you agree with this? Anyway, thanks for the great review!!
Thank you! That is excellent! You totally would, they are gold now!
any tips to check on a xc90 v8 before buying one?
That’s a good question! I may make a video about that 😂 primarily I would check for rust, they don’t usually rust but I see it sometimes! I would also peek underneath to see any leaks. I’d also look at the belt/pulley’s as the engine is running and listen for weird noises. Make sure the transmission shifts properly in all gears, and its hard to really test the AWD, but accelerating from a stop will kinda help figure it out.
It is funny to see a 8 on a 4 cylinders and turbo on a electric.😂
ХС90 V8-BRUTALITY!!!
YEAH!!
I have 2009 R design D5 - amazing - even our mechanic said - “You bought the last solid Volvo”’ and I believe before 2010 models are the best! The china ones I dont trust much but would be happy to Be wrong 😅
Nice! They are the last of the good ones!
izit good idea to guy xc60 2012 with milage 180000 ?
That's not too bad
I much prefer the prev generations. I hv a 2012 xc70 w 3.2 - its been flawless - no issues whatsoever w over 150k on clock and plenty of power w 6cyl- more reliable without the turbo. I had 08 v50 - 5cyl nonturbo - also ran flawless - only issue later was a/c leak. Had 2013 s80 w turbo also but got rid of it bc transmissin was sketchy and wanted more storage. Id never get the newer xc90 bc its a 4cyl - so effing lame. W bullshit turbos and/or superchargers makes them less reliable. All to just improve a few mpgs. Only good thing about new gen is the seats are as good if not better than older seats. U cant beat vovlo seats - designed by orthopedists from what I've heard.
I agree! N/A cars have much less to go wrong. Simple! The seats really are something else
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Yes sir!!!
Since the new Facelift of the XC90 there is no supercharger anymore
Thank you for the note!
Bro, that V8 is Yamaha one - one of it's kind.
Yeah man it's excellent!
The new one doesn’t even have front fog lights ?? Looks like base model haha
Right???
You can't buy happiness but you can buy a Volvo XC90 V8 and that's kind of the same thing.
Exactly right 😂
The 2023 no longer uses the supercharger. Volvo has been trying to make these more reliable while they faze them out to become all electric. It’s very sad. I personally will only buy 2015 and older Volvos now.
Thanks for the note! Yeah it’s a shame. I agree
Eh did you go back to xc90?
Yep!
@@BernonCarsI need a website for a store that supplies parts for my VOLVO XC 90 4.4 2008, do you have anything you can recommend to me?
@@TAPETEPRETO FCP Euro!
@@BernonCars thanks
The old volvo has a stance and character the new one doesn't have, and a V8....
Exactly 💪🏾
Not once not never. 4.4 and t6 forever
Absolutely!
The tiny #4_Cylinder engines are the biggest reason I'll #NEVER buy a P4 Volvo. The 4 cylinder in a Heavy Mid or Large SUV model is just totally ridiculous
Yeah certainly not!
Volvo shouldve perfected the 1st gen S90 instead of this BS SpA platform
Right!
A car that bug and heavy has no business doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds!!!!
Right!!!
The new xc90 lost almost all the cross country spirit. It looks like a car with also fake power.
I absolutely agree!
DO NOT CHANGE THE HEAD UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Please I beg you. BEG you. The touch screen is horrendous. Factory head unit is unbeatable. You will regret is. Please rethink!!
I had it on my old one and LOVED it! The Legend unit is great! I’m still planning on buying one for this one too!
Omg, I hate those Beamer Mini Cooper wannabe four banger engines. BLEH! Friggin overrated with electric motor assist and was a subject of a massive recall because it didn’t have a dipstick LOL! And friggin Volvo kept badging them with T5, T6, and T8?! Why not just say T4? or something?
Its so strange!
Something you probably didnt know whoch is pretty cool, if youve got kids, the p2 xc90 has a feature wiere you can pop out the centre console, and slide the centre child seat forwards, and have your child almost in between the driver and passenger seats!
True for all models except the Executive. The fridge is bolted to the floor.
@markbray2988 dad's got an executive but it's missing the fridge. Or I guess I have one now, as he's given it to me! Had no idea the fridge was bolted down! Here's something you migjt find interesting tho, volvo made a twin turbo test mule xc90 v8, and I'm now the owner of said car! It makes 700 wheel horsepower, and had a 7 speed! I have some videos up on it I believe, but I should be uploading more in the future :)
Oh yeah! My old one did that! Neat!