Are We the Last Neanderthals?

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Neanderthals fascinate us: so much like us, yet not quite us. We have long known that they overlapped with modern humans in prehistoric Europe, but recent genetic evidence suggests widespread interbreeding of the two groups. University of Wisconsin biological anthropologist John Hawks is at the forefront of this species-shaking research. He presents the latest findings from the lab and field and discusses what may or may not make us uniquely human.
This program is presented in partnership with the Center for the Humanities and the Institute for Research in the Humanities at the University of Wisconsin at Madison.
Video produced by Pentimenti Productions.
This program was recorded on November 2, 2013 as part of the 24th Chicago Humanities Festival, ANIMAL: chf.to/2013Animal

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  • Thank you for mentioning Albert Wallace, a forgotten man but a hero of mine.

    @johnhowe50@johnhowe509 жыл бұрын
  • Fabulous insightful presentation.

    @jerryoconnor6265@jerryoconnor62659 жыл бұрын
  • Seldom do you get someone with this level of knowledge who can articulate it so well. Well done.

    @eddieking2976@eddieking29767 жыл бұрын
  • They are going to find that the DOG was what gave us the edge.

    @noelahowerton3197@noelahowerton319710 жыл бұрын
  • they could have also used skulls instead of pots to cook their grains.You have fairly large cavities in the skulls of the large animals they were hunting.

    @jackrabbit4907@jackrabbit49077 жыл бұрын
  • Very good lecture. Many thanks!

    @eeros4192@eeros41928 жыл бұрын
  • He is a good speaker. Clear and concise

    @jagaruna5712@jagaruna57129 жыл бұрын
  • problem with you tube is half the poeple who coment dont really understand what is being said and the other half think they know better.

    @theskip1@theskip17 жыл бұрын
  • A fine presentation on the subject. The DNA of the average person with European ancestry has been shown, thus far, to have 280 Neanderthal variants (mutations/deviations) within chromosomes 1-22. A high of 381 variants in one person has been discovered thus far in genome analyses as of 1/2017. For example, I have 292 Neanderthal variants in my genome, which is at the 72nd percentile compared to the average European. The Neander Valley in Germany is indeed between Dusseldorf and Cologne, where the original Neanderthal partial skeleton was discovered and over 400 more partial skeletons since 1857. Conversely, African subject genomes tested to date have shown almost no Neanderthal variants i.e., on average only 20 per individual versus 280 for a European. This suggests only minimal interfacing between their combined genetics across our early human variant history. Oh, now (1/2017) up to 4% of the DNA can be attributed to Neanderthal interface with modern humans.

    @yogi2.057@yogi2.0577 жыл бұрын
  • Maybe I missed it but where does the r negative blood types fall into this? And the Basque and Saami people some of the info I was reading said both groups have pretty much always been there since before the end of the last ice age? seems odd just wondering any thoughts

    @ryanfield3747@ryanfield37477 жыл бұрын
  • great presentation

    @maxkillerification@maxkillerification9 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation! Thank you for sharing!

    @pawelkrol6547@pawelkrol654710 жыл бұрын
  • excellent and so interesting!

    @ilbarhai@ilbarhai7 жыл бұрын
  • Be good if he compared Neanderthal to archaic homo sapiens, discussed ice age movements and the changing dynamics of plants and animals in relation to the ice ages. Instead Neanderthals are usually compared with modern humans and with little geographical or ecological context.

    @paulscape72@paulscape729 жыл бұрын
  • artistic, buried their dead, cooked, were able to breed with "modern" humans. just a set of native people

    @konic40@konic4010 жыл бұрын
  • I had a DNA test with 23andme and I have 3.39% neanderthal DNA...apparently

    @LadyDizcordia@LadyDizcordia8 жыл бұрын
    • +CurvyGamer Congrats. :) I want to get a DNA test done so bad! So jelly here.

      @pleromicpastry5445@pleromicpastry54458 жыл бұрын
  • Very well done bravo!

    @nanomicroart@nanomicroart9 жыл бұрын
  • You sir are as genuinely humorous as your are informed. Great presentation!

    @JimJWalker@JimJWalker10 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting, very articulate and very entertaining. Interested to know what update info exists now in 2017

    @raymondheath7668@raymondheath76687 жыл бұрын
  • WOW!!.....not even college person....but I really love to see or listen to this sort of stuff...2.9% neardenthal myself.....

    @deckiedeckie@deckiedeckie8 жыл бұрын
  • Glad I could help you out with your presentation. Very sharp guy!

    @MsJacks90@MsJacks907 жыл бұрын
  • This is a very informative video. I haven't watched a video this good on youtube in a very long time. Thanks.

    @mfhmonkey@mfhmonkey9 жыл бұрын
  • I learned a lot from this. Extremely well explained.

    @odd-steinararntzen886@odd-steinararntzen8867 жыл бұрын
  • A very comfortable and effective speaker - as most of us know, having the knowledge is most often not the symbol of relaying or sharing it with audience appeal. Quite good speaker.

    @bethbartlett5692@bethbartlett56927 жыл бұрын
  • The question is there, but not everybody answers it the same way. If you watch Dr Alice Roberts' BBC documentary, she does not believe in interbreeding, however in this presentation it is assumed. And this brings mi question, if anybody cares to answer: If both species interbred, then we are not either Homo Sapiens, ("only" 97%) nor Neanderthal (at "just" 3%), Would that make us a different species from both, or more like dog breeds, both of them were canis familiaris and we are all as different and similar as German Shepherds and Pyrinees Mastiffs?

    @juncedan@juncedan10 жыл бұрын
  • he's wrong, other animals do use verbal communication, crows have two dialects, the loud cawing most people are familiar with, but then a quieter clicking and almost whistling sounding dialect for individual to individual conversation, they are the smarted birds on the planet.

    @ElectricalExistence@ElectricalExistence7 жыл бұрын
  • At 56:38 "What would the hybrids be ?" That archaeological site is in Romania. "Pestera Oase" (in picture) => Peștera cu Oase = "The Cave with Bones" (in Romanian)

    @FlorinSutu@FlorinSutu7 жыл бұрын
  • I thought it was fascinating... Thank you please post more.

    @stevenspinazzola6759@stevenspinazzola67599 жыл бұрын
  • Highly informative, one of the best presented lectures I have ever had the pleasure to listen to.

    @trespire@trespire9 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic!

    @davantlag2000@davantlag200010 жыл бұрын
  • neaderthals werent dump. they were an expression of their time. as are we. we shall not judge for in the end, i think the outcome will be the same

    @DasIllu@DasIllu8 жыл бұрын
  • What do you think about the theory, that when Neanderthals and Africans mixed, the mother and child died at birth, because of the smaller pelvis of sapiens. Only the children with small sapiens head survived, and that is why the old Neanderthals disappeared in a short time. The last ones in Spain, because the genes from sapiens reached them last. But this would also mean, that many Europeans are still more Neanderthal than Sapiens to this day.

    @robertkeick6843@robertkeick68437 жыл бұрын
    • It is actually logic and I support this. Sadly science in this particular area is restricted by political correctness.

      @MrMhtmht@MrMhtmht7 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative! I look forward to current info. Why is Y chromosome absent from human genome?

    @iamoneofmanypeople@iamoneofmanypeople8 жыл бұрын
  • I see neanderthals everyday. No surprise to me. I lived in Erkrath, Germany as an exchange student back in the 80's for a year. My host home was about a mile from the center. Very cool place to visit.

    @seibrav@seibrav10 жыл бұрын
  • Very good with up to date science

    @hoolydooly5799@hoolydooly57999 жыл бұрын
  • I can almost hear Stan Gooch Screaming from the grave.

    @madtilly2970@madtilly297010 жыл бұрын
  • It's amazing how the Neandertal (ok without the "h") became smart and cultured since we know we have 3% of their genes!

    @FGIRAFFE@FGIRAFFE8 жыл бұрын
  • You failed to say how old "modern humans" lived to be when you told us Neandertals lived on average to be 30... I don't believe "modern humans" lived to be much if any older on average at the same time in history.

    @mikelundrigan2285@mikelundrigan22859 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Paul Giomatti

    @youscrewber@youscrewber8 жыл бұрын
  • well, according to my doctor, I have got more neanderthal DNA, than rest, some, of my bones are different, I prefer cold, don´t mind to live on meat and herbs, I am stronger, than my friends etc. I don´t care, wheter this is true or not, I like myself. :)

    @realmacgrey6421@realmacgrey64219 жыл бұрын
  • Riveting. Thank you for posting.

    @Dawnybros@Dawnybros7 жыл бұрын
  • Just reading the comments and the language used, it shows me how less we've changed since...

    @nikemozack7269@nikemozack72698 жыл бұрын
  • Its a fascinating hypothesis that the Neanderthals disappeared due to a larger gene pool along with Denisovans.

    @goose8041@goose80417 жыл бұрын
  • What software did he use for his presentation? It was really cool

    @OmarAhmad-gm1uc@OmarAhmad-gm1uc7 жыл бұрын
    • prezi.com

      @Folopolis@Folopolis7 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative and enlightening.A great way to understand our past.

    @anandram6974@anandram69748 жыл бұрын
  • He may have hinted at why Neanderthal's went extinct insofar as the possibility of co-sanguination of species. Just because species compete does not mean all competition is violent. If interbreeding existed between species and Neanderthal babies were more robust than Cro Magnon babies and Neanderthal females allegedly had larger birth canals interbreeding would favor babies surviving Cro magnon males-Neanderthal female unions over Neanderthal males-Cro Magnon females whereas Cro-Magnon females may not have been able to give birth as easily to hybrids and died in childbirth. Such unfavorable circumstances also could have led to a preference for one interbreeding combination and even certain cultural taboos over the opposing combination because of survivability fo the mother and the offspring. In certain cases interbreeding between male - female produce sterile hybrids, and female-male interbreeding produces more fertile offspring. Another question he touched on was how this interbreeding possible transpired. A sociological experiment once showed that humans have a tendency to be attracted to the unique/foreign traits of other races. One species may have had a attraction to the other, and there may have been cultural and sociological benefits to Neanderthal female breeding into Cro Magnon groups. If Cro Magnon were more competitive, and more productive with higher survival rates it might explain why Neanderthals were simply bred into the species but ceased to exist as a separate species. This sequence actually happened with a dog breed known as Bullenbeisser. Bullenbeisser ceased to exist as a breed because humans were cross breeding them to Bulldogs to create Boxers and not breeding for Bullenbeissers.

    @PALLADINARC@PALLADINARC10 жыл бұрын
    • As I under it the key dimension for baby birthing is head size with humans and Neanderthals having almost the same size brains/heads. So either combination should work just as well. If the females stay with their species/group, then the hybrids from human females survive while the hybrids with Neanderthal mothers die out with Neanderthals. If the females move to male groups, which would be tougher since they have to learn a new language and customs, then the offspring of female Neanderthals survive.

      @robertaldrich8337@robertaldrich833710 жыл бұрын
    • Robert Aldrich Good question whether infant craniums for Neanderthal were larger. Given that Neanderthal brain volume was greater than Sapiens by about 200-300cc, it is likely the case that Neanderthal infants had larger craniums which is also indicated by evidence that Neanderthal females had larger birth canals. A DNA study on Basque people the study concluded Basques have the largest percentage of Neanderthal DNA of all modern breeds of human. Basques inhabit the region where the last known remnants of Neanderthals existed. Basques also hold unique anatomical features. These physical characteristics are typically associated with Rh-negative blood which in the present scenario are be regarded as also likely belonging to the Neanderthals. These include early maturity, large head, eyes, high IQ, an extra vertebra (a 'tail bone' -- called a 'cauda'), lower than normal body temperature, and low blood pressure. Basques have the highest ratio of Rh negative blood factor at 33%, also a trait hypothesized to have originated in Neanderthals. Basques hold the highest ratio of O blood type at 55% also considered a Neanderthal trait. Rh factor is a known major factor fetus survival. A Rh-negative woman (Neanderthal) who conceives a Rh-positive child with a Rh-positive man (Cro Magon) will typically bear her first child without any special complications. However, because of intermingling of fluids between mother and foetus, the first pregnancy builds up antibodies to Rh+ blood in the mother which attack the blood of her subsequent Rh+ children, causing them to miscarry, be stillborn, or die shortly after birth from infant haemolytic disease. This phenomenon is relatively unknown elsewhere in nature, except in crosses between species, as in mules and humans! So a lot of these breeding pairs probably resulted in only one offspring.The effect would be a continuing reduction in the Neanderthals as hybrid couples produced only a single child, half the nominal population-maintenance rate. A geneticist noticed that the Basques are likely a hybrid species and that certain mitochondrial DNA were absent meaning certain females were not passing on DNA as efficiently as certain males were. .

      @PALLADINARC@PALLADINARC10 жыл бұрын
  • ← 2.8% Neanderthal, 0.2% Denisovan, looking for a cave, what else ha

    @TheTamriel@TheTamriel9 жыл бұрын
  • They made musical flutes and these have tones like modern flutes like modern recorder flutes buy made of bones. My high school science teacher had a heavy brow ridge and a prominent jaw but he was a modern human. People who were able to survive in cold climates and create a survival strategies, had to be smart. People who live in polar regions today are among the brightest people. Winter survival means that you have to prepare ahead, gather what can be stored for later use. There are many things which people today scoff at, but when one considers Charlemagne, first of the Holy Roman Emperors was a giant, was close to 8 feet tall. Not that Charlemagne was Neanderthal but it shows you the variation in our genes. In an ice age condition, the traits of Neanderthal would mean survival. I have worked with the deaf and they have a language just as rich and varied as those who hear. When one digs up any skeleton, there is no guarantee that the person could see, hear or speak. Modern man is rather arrogant and not too willing to give up on notions they like. If you find out your ancestors were intelligent or were brutes dragging their knuckles on the ground, I'd rather they were smart and clever. DNA doesn't last that long. So being able to have a sequenced DNA from Neanderthal means that the one they sequenced cannot be older than 10,000 years for fragmentary and much less if there is a complete sequence.

    @courag1@courag19 жыл бұрын
  • thank you , from joe gaynor , Ireland I really must listen to your great lecture again , so much new information to me

    @joegaynor438@joegaynor43810 жыл бұрын
  • "A Very Interesting and Informative Lecture on Neandertals !"

    @josephsorce2543@josephsorce25437 жыл бұрын
  • If we know a 50% plus Neanderthal, where should we send the DNA?

    @chtomlin@chtomlin7 жыл бұрын
  • they discovered some bones with modern face and Neanderthals body shape about two months ago 11\20\2014

    @beyondspace3736@beyondspace37369 жыл бұрын
  • When i grow up i want to be a neanderthal!

    @zudemaster@zudemaster7 жыл бұрын
    • I'm sure your parents will be proud

      @__-vy3bo@__-vy3bo7 жыл бұрын
    • Me too!

      @rexultimatum2588@rexultimatum25887 жыл бұрын
  • So Neanderthal is like the children of the forest.

    @jimmyquian9047@jimmyquian90477 жыл бұрын
  • what about cro magnon what new evidence do you have?

    @valvetrom@valvetrom7 жыл бұрын
  • For some reason, the sound doesn't work on this. What a bummer! = (

    @AttilatheSon@AttilatheSon9 жыл бұрын
  • Around 54:55 he says something that sounds like "cuestro fire" and then "Dances with wolves" (a movie from 1990). What is this "cuestro fire"?

    @mobluse@mobluse8 жыл бұрын
    • "Quest For Fire" Vs. Dances with Wolves. Opportunistic sex Vs. Consensual sex

      @he9925@he99257 жыл бұрын
    • Quest for fire

      @alainpannetier2543@alainpannetier25437 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for posting this talk with John Hawks! This is fascinating! Even better, the sound is good. There may still be Neanderthals in the forests of Russia. There's a talk by Lloyd Pye where he discusses sightings of Neanderthals. There's also a talk on You Tube with a professorial man discussing how the average brain size has actually SHRUNK over the last 20,000 years by 150 cubic centimeters. The speaker looks and sounds like this man, John Hawks. I'll have to find that video again.

    @Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana@Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana10 жыл бұрын
  • Don't look at the comment section., don't look at the comment section.. don't look at the... Oh snap I did it again!

    @Gumeshemasyper@Gumeshemasyper9 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating topic ... superb presentation!

    @jedmarum@jedmarum10 жыл бұрын
  • Anyone know the name of the science fiction novel referred to at (49:09) ?

    @daxxonjabiru428@daxxonjabiru4289 жыл бұрын
    • The Neanderthal Parallax is a trilogy of novels by Robert J. Sawyer published by Tor.

      @xavierwaterkeyn@xavierwaterkeyn9 жыл бұрын
    • Xavier Waterkeyn Looks like I have a trilogy in my future -- Thanks!

      @daxxonjabiru428@daxxonjabiru4289 жыл бұрын
  • Very enjoyable lecture. Thanks for putting it online.

    @zebedee5158@zebedee51589 жыл бұрын
  • Why didn't he mentioned where that oldest(35000 years) Human/Neandertal hybrid was found. "Peştera cu oase"(Bones Cave) in Rumania.

    @nikemozack7269@nikemozack72698 жыл бұрын
  • Climate change(loss of habitat)led to dwindling populations,that has been the fate of many species other than bipedal hominids,the wooly mammoth,sabertooth tiger,the cave bear,the wooly rhino,etc.What would happen to the majority of our population today if the sun entered a solar minimum for an extended period(ice age),or we entered into a volcanic winter,90% die-off within the first year.

    @indigomisfit1027@indigomisfit10278 жыл бұрын
  • yea, one friend of mine illustrates how Neandertal lives on, right? I swear he has every feature.

    @user-mh8to9bc4s@user-mh8to9bc4s7 жыл бұрын
  • they must of been human to breed with humans

    @ericsalles3393@ericsalles33938 жыл бұрын
  • I believe my sister is a Neanderthal

    @smokeymcfly3396@smokeymcfly339610 жыл бұрын
  • redheads? yeah!

    @alomaalber6514@alomaalber65149 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent lecture

    @cibetka76@cibetka769 жыл бұрын
  • it's much more fun watching a hd documentary

    @hamzahalal7141@hamzahalal71419 жыл бұрын
  • leaner.. yet how did they survive ice age ? a new documentary shows the ribcage like a bell shape.

    @LeadFarmer813@LeadFarmer81310 жыл бұрын
  • 30:50 Omg my neighbor. lol SERIOUSLY !

    @comucoyu@comucoyu9 жыл бұрын
  • Neanderthal must be a beautiful Dahl! A girl who was sitting next to me in school said : " You have such buckled face and flat skull and your forehead is leaning backwards from your protruding eyebrows and your green eyes are very nasty. That was not kind! Skull 60,5 and teeth above the dentists scale. Thank you GOD. I´m not complaining but often astonished when people are commenting my broad grinning. A lot of Texas Bush in me! People are affected.

    @StenAkeDahl@StenAkeDahl8 жыл бұрын
  • I don't feel safe

    @rodlinvon-hugenstine5142@rodlinvon-hugenstine514210 жыл бұрын
  • I have to say this, and I know it has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of this video, but.... there is no such word as: Geneology - The correct word is: Genealogy

    @IamCharz@IamCharz9 жыл бұрын
  • The audience is just horrible. -Your ancestors could be Neanderthals. -Huehrehuehruherh... As if Neanderthals are subhuman. Most Neanderthals could light a fire without a lighter or match, can the modern man say the same for himself?

    @crnisuton@crnisuton8 жыл бұрын
    • ***** In addition to your comment. I highly doubt that the average homosapiens can assemble a working smartphone. Think about that.

      @crnisuton@crnisuton8 жыл бұрын
    • +crnisuton No single person can build a smartphone from raw materials like, crude oil - plastics, sand - silikon, matal ores etc. and then put milions lines of code and other stuff like ringtones. You must have whole civilisation to build one, from miners to musicians ;)

      @Pandzikizlasu80@Pandzikizlasu808 жыл бұрын
    • +Dziki z lasu The thing is, homo-sapiens tend to think themselves superior to neanderthals on an individual level. Fact is, most homo-sapiens can't grasp basic Newtonian physics. Despite being surrounded by electrical appliances, an average homo-sapiens only barely understands electricity better than a neanderthal. They take it upon themselves as if they had the brains to put it all together, when in fact it took millions of individuals. While an neanderthal would explain electricity with supernatural forces the modern man simply knows that he has to pay for it and to plug things into a wall to make them work. I use electricity as a venial excuse but you get the picture.

      @crnisuton@crnisuton8 жыл бұрын
    • +crnisuton definitely right i can use one .dont suppose the average soldier can make a gun dont suppose the pilot who dropped the atom bomb on hiroshima .could make the plane or even make the boots he was wearing ..who knows?

      @ericsalles3393@ericsalles33938 жыл бұрын
  • WHY do so many scientists continue to cite Haeckel's work, when he was an admitted (and legally proved) FRAUD? This never ceases to amaze those who know. Though some of this is interesting, and the speaker is famous and obviously not an idiot, I had to ask it. WHY cite Haeckel at all anymore?

    @rosemcguinn5301@rosemcguinn53018 жыл бұрын
    • +Rose McGuinn Well perhaps the fact that he was a fraud in certain cases wouldn't change the fact that he was completely competent and his work in other cases is entirely legit and well put together.

      @pleromicpastry5445@pleromicpastry54458 жыл бұрын
    • Eggfart MacMillan I cannot believe that you would think of a legally proved and publicly self-admitted FRAUD as a good source to cite in any case, no matter the subject matter under discussion.

      @rosemcguinn5301@rosemcguinn53018 жыл бұрын
    • Eggfart MacMillan Thanks for illustrating my point so well. No more time for this bye bye

      @rosemcguinn5301@rosemcguinn53018 жыл бұрын
    • You're welcome honey baby

      @pleromicpastry5445@pleromicpastry54458 жыл бұрын
  • Mine is 2.9 I think.

    @YoungbloodVlog@YoungbloodVlog9 жыл бұрын
  • Also my biggest lesson from this is change is important.

    @jakea4558@jakea45588 жыл бұрын
  • I downloaded this hunter gatherer video ......

    @Moronvideos1940@Moronvideos19408 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the great presentation. Only one question I can't seem to find an answer to concerning our Neanderthal inheritance. If Neanderthals were 99.7% Homo sapiens, then how can I be about 3% Neanderthal when I am only .3% different?

    @duckmanjoel@duckmanjoel10 жыл бұрын
    • Joe Califf That does help. So you are saying that all humans alive today match one another 99.9% and in that difference (0.01%) we will be 1% to 4% more Neanderthal? Along that same line, are you sure it is not the .3% difference between us and Neanderthals that we find the 1 to 4 % similarity? I haven't completely got my mind around it but am getting closer.

      @duckmanjoel@duckmanjoel10 жыл бұрын
    • duckmanjoel Hi, I did make an error but it was in the "0.01%", rather than the correct 0.1% (basically, for every thousand base pairs, on average, humans differ one time). I've edited this above. Regarding the .3% difference, it's not directly involved in the ~1-4% calculated proportion of Neanderthal ancestry in Eurasians/non-Africans. The 1-4% is the "excess" similarity above the expected frequency of 50/50 when we compare spots on the DNA that differ between an Italian and a Kenyan, to a Neanderthal. Because we share a (very) recent common ancestor with Neanderthals (~600Kya), we share almost all of our DNA with them (that's the 99.7% on average). When living people's sequences deviate from the Neanderthal, it's because of mutations (the only source of novel additions to the genome) that have accumulated since that 600ky-old split. But since living humans themselves have experienced population splits since this time (an obvious example is when some were separated from Africans when they found themselves in Eurasia ~40-80kya), their sequences differ from each other as well, at one base in every one thousand, on average. So, if we compare the genomes of a modern Italian and Kenyan, we will find differences (~32,000 across the entire genome). Every time there is a difference and we check to see what the Neanderthal has at that same spot on the genome, it should be equally likely to match either the Italian or the Kenyan if neither is more closely related to Neanderthals, since we know that the Neanderthal-Homo sapiens split was much earlier than the more recent splits between any modern human populations. But, what we/they find is that Eurasians match the Neanderthal 1-4% more often than expected by chance (it should be 50/50). I essentially just explained this again independently, without reading my previous answer, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself. I thought maybe a totally independent explanation would be clearer. I hope this helps.

      @joeyx18000@joeyx1800010 жыл бұрын
    • duckmanjoel By the way, sorry for the long answer. I just want to be able to explain this in a way that is understandable. It's the kind of thing that matters because we're all so impressed by the authority of "science" and "numbers" that we rarely question (or understand) what is really going on. Yet it is within these data (this evidence) and the explanations (hypotheses) generated from them, that the scientific conversation/debate exists!

      @joeyx18000@joeyx1800010 жыл бұрын
    • I will explain to you, in a much more simple way. Neanderthals were not 99.7% homo sapiens, they had 99.7% same dna with homo sapiens. That's different. A mouse has 91% same dna with homo sapiens, but a mouse is not 91% homo sapiens lol. So yeah based on the 0.1% difference that every human has with an other human, we can find how much of this 0.1% is of neanderthal ancestry.

      @antonisch3861@antonisch386110 жыл бұрын
    • remember that the genome they found is broken so it might be not so different at all.

      @konic40@konic4010 жыл бұрын
  • Thinking this might help a few people because scientist don't explain this too well. Humans (the species) share 98.9% of their DNA with Chimps (the species). You, as an individual, might share 3% of your genome with Neanderthals (ancestral DNA) like my child shares 50% of her DNA with me and 25% with her grandparent going back... There is ancestral DNA comparison and species DNA comparison. We have 0% ancestral DNA with a chimp. Only a common ancestor. Humans have both a common ancestor with Neanderthals (99.5% relationship) and, some people, have ancestral Neanderthal DNA. Get it?

    @duckmanjoel@duckmanjoel7 жыл бұрын
  • Just an insight that might help: women today will say that they want a man who is more sensitive and caring, but statistically, women marry the more aggressive less sensitive man when given a choice. There have been numerous studies done in various formats. So could we expect the women who were our ancient ancestors to be any less influenced when they were introduced to these hunter/gatherer, muscled, mysterious strangers? (even if they were hairy). Sapiens males, on the other hand, would probably not find the Neanderthal females particularly attractive if they were twice as strong, aggressive, hairy or just plain ugly. So no mitochondria was passed from the Neanderthals to sapiens. So the hybrids of the Neanderthal males with sapiens females produced the young with a hybrid vigor whose males continued to choose a mate with the more traditional sapiens female phenotype. Eventually, these hybrids spread out and became the dominant race choosing to conquer, rather than continue to integrate with the remaining Neanderthals and take the sapiens females as their spoil of war eventually 'watering down' the hybrid genome to the percentage we see today.

    @duckmanjoel@duckmanjoel10 жыл бұрын
    • Henk van der Gaast I think early human females had more of a choice of mate in the early hunter gatherer stage. We are 'designed' by evolution for courtship. Certainly we see that female predator type animals (wolves, bear, fox, etc.) have a choice whether to accept or reject most of the time. I think as we see in many hybrids (killer bees, wolf/dog) there is a breakdown of instincts. But certainly with the social evolution of humans we see a shift in power over the eons between 'the controlling sex'. Like I tell my daughter, in todays world, a man chases a woman until she catches him.

      @duckmanjoel@duckmanjoel10 жыл бұрын
    • females often look outside the group to introduce new genes to the gene pool to keep the group healthy

      @freedomm323@freedomm3239 жыл бұрын
    • that makes no sense..... you must live in a delusion

      @freedomm323@freedomm3239 жыл бұрын
    • ***** But aren't most of the 6 billion people hybrids? (1-4% Neanderthal) Guess you lost that argument.

      @user-hm1rf5oj2g@user-hm1rf5oj2g9 жыл бұрын
    • aaaaa who cares? ah

      @richardkinbell3457@richardkinbell34579 жыл бұрын
  • j'ai fait les tests DNA et j'ai important stock de néandertal et denisova et l'autre surprise: ma famille est espagnol originaire Aragon et j'ai marqueur STR/masculin est germanique-baltique et pour féminin c'est slavic et seulement 30% de l'origine iberian et 10% pour basque. L''Espagne était déjà un site très attirant pour les touristes du paléolithique et du néolithique ;-D

    @polarisreseau@polarisreseau8 жыл бұрын
    • +martin escobar yes, aragon is so, so far away from france. You basically saying is: "no surprise there", isn´t it? Aragon is basque country and the baltic is two steps removed from that whole area. It´s not like you have native-american markers, is it?

      @thezeptetis5087@thezeptetis50878 жыл бұрын
  • Does this guy have a name?

    @leefiles@leefiles9 жыл бұрын
  • Does anyone know if samples from early pre columbian indigenous americans have been tested for percent of Neanderthal or denisivon?

    @jackchorn@jackchorn10 жыл бұрын
    • Native Americans and Asians have around 4% Neanderthal genes. No Denisovan dna has been found in modern humans

      @jimyow8786@jimyow878610 жыл бұрын
    • I knew that Asian populations were tested but I didn't know Native americans were sampled. Actually some of the people beyond the Wallace line, Aboriginals of Australia and PNG have 6% from Denisovan.

      @jackchorn@jackchorn10 жыл бұрын
    • jackchorn You're right. I don't know why I said there are no Denisovan genes today. Apparently, everyone south of Asia, the people on Indonesia and throughout Melanesia and the Australian Aborigines have Denisovan genes. It's possible Polynesians, too, since they originally came from Southeast Asia.

      @jimyow8786@jimyow878610 жыл бұрын
    • jim yow I think the Mayans have a pretty good concentration of Denisovan genes. Of course, Amerindians are from Asia, mostly at least.

      @joeschultz2@joeschultz210 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you. Any leads on a paper or article. DNA recently finds some mutations in genes of almost all N & South American that are not found in Asian population. There would have had to of been a 10-15 thousand year separation for this to mutate then that population would have had to then disperse. Jim, isn't there denisivon in east asia population? I have read that east Asian has a little higher Neanderthal then European. I wonder about hobbit genes, ha.

      @jackchorn@jackchorn10 жыл бұрын
  • That Neanderthal Darwin touched should got a restraining order on Darwin after that "incident"

    @ryanfield3747@ryanfield37477 жыл бұрын
  • I'm proud to be a type O 3% Neanderthal!

    @thayne559@thayne5599 жыл бұрын
    • Olhor10 i think you are confused between similar percentage of dna and actual genes found in neanderthals. not everybody has neanderthal genes, but everyone has very similar dna (about 0.12% differing dna) to neanderthals as they were a human species. if humans and gorillas interbred between the last 200,000 years and now, then someone would have gorilla dna the same way someone would have neanderthal dna.

      @snakemast66@snakemast669 жыл бұрын
    • Same here mate Type O 3.0% Neanderthal! also 100% European I1 Y-DNA HV9a Mt-DNA.

      @treforscrfens811@treforscrfens8119 жыл бұрын
  • I'm two years to late! I wanted to sign up for the course

    @gaetanadixon333@gaetanadixon3337 жыл бұрын
  • an archaeologist that is funny. WOW

    @angelwhispers2060@angelwhispers20608 жыл бұрын
  • In fact years ago some people made maps about the migration of modern human, but these were done according to "0% european admix. between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal". Now, we know these is not correct, and we know people from Asia and Europe have Neanderthal descent. Some people say that the origin of the CM people is en Egypt and then in other countries of southern-western Africa or Israel. In my opinion maybe the origin of the real Cro-Magnon was near Turkey. Why? The skulls from Israel were so archaic and so different for the first Cro-Magnon skulls from Europe, from 40.000 - 50.000 years ago. Also Cro-Magnons from Egypt were more archaic Sapiens, maybe they had also dark skin and archaic features, it's true they started the migration but they were in my opinion all archaic Sapiens, not CM yet. I think the origin of the CM man is maybe near Turkey because they arrived there maybe 40.000 years ago, maybe earlier than this date, and they met the Neanderthals (in the same zone, near Çatal Hüyuk there are CM and Neanderthal tools and paints from the same age). In this region, Anatolia, there are one feature, similar or related to the occipital bun -> anatolian bump. Like 20% people from this region has this feature (when Neanderthals and CM's maybe met). Only in Asia and Western Europe (when later they met again) we can find a percentage higher than a 1-2%, that is very similar to the average DNA that we have in common with Neanderthals (this percentege is only 1% in Egypt, so maybe Egypt is not the origin of CM). The highest % is in Turkey. From Lagar Velho (Portugal) to Çatal Hüyuk (Turkey) we can find near the 90% of the Paleoatlantid people. Also in Turkey there are a lot of CM with this feature the bump, and in Iran they have Robust Iranids, very similar to Paleoatlantids. There are Paleoatlantids also in parts of Greece and, in England Wales mostly, Spain and Portugal. The last two had Neanderthals and CM living in in the same age (Lagar Velho's child was a mix between Neanderthal and CM). Also we can find the occipital bun or anatolian bump in basque people, in the spanish Paleoatlantids and in Turkey. Now we can find a lot of CM in Western Europe, following the migration of the CM, and also in eastern Europe-middle orient. In Turkey and Greece we can find also a big population of CM, most of them mixed Paleoatlantids. The curiosity is that Greece is next to Turkey. In my opinion the origin of the Sapiens, the mix between archaic and modern, is near this zone. Where people confirmed that their skin started changing, they lived with a meat-based diet, so common there, and when they started evolving phisically (a feature of the CM is that they where near 190-200 cm). Maybe Sapiens from Egypt was the archaic ("proto-CM"), then evolved in his migration near Turkey into a modern one thousand years ago and then it mixed with Neanderthal or started its migration. People from Turkey is confirmed that has one of the highest if not the highest percent of Neanderthal blood in the world, also they have features like occipital bun / anatolian bump (curiously, Anatolia is the zone when they lived together), and still have a CM population. Egypt doesn't have so much CM, Israel, Oman, Syria (...) when some authors fixed the origins, doesn't have any CM population (maybe Israel the only one). Qafzeh and CM are not so familiar IMO www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3385337/Europe-s-farmers-came-Turkey-DNA-Anatolian-skeletons-farming-spread-region-8-000-years-ago.html www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/worlds-first-farmers-were-surprisingly-diverse

    @esramnor6734@esramnor67347 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting.

    @johnnybizaro1@johnnybizaro19 жыл бұрын
  • In my own parsonal opinion, i would say it is possible that some of us humens have some form of Neanderthal DNA locked in us some where..

    @redzool@redzool10 жыл бұрын
  • Red hair, long, wide skull with overbite, inability to use most hats, large nose, extreme intelligence, arctic home

    @VicariousReality7@VicariousReality77 жыл бұрын
  • I read these guys had an almost exclusively meat diet? Can anyone educated well on this matter confirm this?

    @jakea4558@jakea45588 жыл бұрын
  • 43 minutes in it gets weird.

    @centeristextreamist1037@centeristextreamist10378 жыл бұрын
  • The ego of some people on here kill me it's laughable...not me I am from pure human omg stop

    @jeremysalmons6424@jeremysalmons64248 жыл бұрын
  • Valuev is the last Neanderthal.

    @LeoInterHyenaem@LeoInterHyenaem10 жыл бұрын
    • for a fact!=)))

      @obuchovaoffice@obuchovaoffice10 жыл бұрын
    • Puyol too

      @paulrond5145@paulrond514510 жыл бұрын
    • No! Disease was spread cause of bad hygiene and too many populated areas! Don't got there with racist stuff! Ok? I won't even say the rest! As far as I am concerned there is no weakest race! We all have our own specialities and need to learn to work with each other! So please don't go there.... Let's not talk about high crime rates with certain races! Ok?

      @obuchovaoffice@obuchovaoffice10 жыл бұрын
  • siberia and north america, many similarities

    @awwhellnogadammit@awwhellnogadammit9 жыл бұрын
  • damn why's this guy hiding in the dark

    @fioleetry@fioleetry9 жыл бұрын
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