Giles Martin talks The Beatles White Album with Pete Mitchell
2018 ж. 10 Қар.
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To celebrate the 50th anniversary of the White Album by the Beatles and as part of our Revolutions In Music: The Beatles White album. Pete Mitchell talks an exclusively with Giles Martin, Sir George Martin’s son who has remastered the original recordings.
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Maybe Giles should remix this interview taking out Pete Mitchell's voice.
Boom.
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They had some laughs and Giles was going to teach Blackbird. Can't beat that!
💯 Or at least name the video Pete Mitchell tells Giles Martin what’s what.
I thought the exact same thing.
A conversation between a man who knows what he's talking about and a man who believes he does.
To be fair...that applies to almost all interviewers.
WORD!
which is which?
Perhaps a conversation between a man who knows more than the other man, but Giles Martin gets it wrong, too. John NEVER said about Hey Jude, "That's the only good line in the song." What he actually said, we can argue no one can say, but Paul, who recounted the incident, said John protested Paul saying, "I'll be taking that out," and said "You won't, you know! That's the BEST line in the song." There's a whopping difference between only and best. But yes, this interviewer is obnoxious.
Exactly right
Giles obviously inherited the finesse and gentlemanship of his father. A lucky man indeed.
Lol. I love how Giles sticks to his guns. What an absolute legend. Not afraid in the slightest to blatantly disagree and correct.
Congratulations to Giles Martin for making this interview interesting, despite the constant interruptions by an interviewer who is only half listening to the answers.
Mitchell just regurgitating mythology. Martin subtly correcting him with facts.
Exactly! It's funny how much this stuff seems alive to Mr Martin but dead as a doornail to the other fellow. Martin says when he listens to Julia his reaction is to marvel at how good it is. The other fellow is totally un-interested in observations like that. I'm not sure he even heard it.
Or, rather, Martin is giving his interpretation of the facts, just as Mitchell is giving his 'version'/interpretation of the facts. The reason that the idea of recording The White Album was full of tension was because each of The Beatles said it; Geoff Emerick says it. Ringo left during the recording....time and age sometimes change opinions, and I think that has happened a bit here. Ken Scott loved his time recording The White Album. Glyn Johns said he never experienced any tension during the recording of 'Let It Be'; he also said that the authors of 'Recording The Beatles' got everything they said about him in that book wrong. And Glyn Johns also gets some Beatles facts wrong in his own book. One could go on, and on.
I'm not taking about facts. Martin is engaged with the art. The other fellow wants tot all about gossip. Who gives a shit, at this late date, about the gossip? Surely the only reason to care about this anymore is because the music moves you? If it's all about proving who was mad at who 50 years ago, who gives a shit?
He's a complete idiot.
The trouble is, there are real fans who still regurgitate the same things as Mitchell. There has been a mass of brilliant Beatles books in more recent times but some fans are still spouting the same nonsense that appeared in articles and books back in the 70s/early 80s
dunno why the interviewer bothered getting Giles in, he obviously thinks he knows it all already
I like how Giles doesn't just regurgitate the stock party line analysis and endlessly rehashed accounts of the Beatles' legacy -- some of which, as he notes, just aren't factual -- and has his own opinions. He also has a lot of his father in him, which is quite haunting. As a lifelong Beatles fan, I love what Giles is doing with their music and heritage.
Sir Hatchporch well said
Ditto!
Agreed!!
Sir George put it best: he was deaf in one ear later in life, but he luckily had Giles to hear the other half.
Same here! I Love the Love album!
Giles' description is perfect: Right when you think you understand what the album is, it slaps you across the face by introducing a completely novel genre and style in the next song. While it lacks the cohesion of Sgt. Pepper, it somehow still feels like a concept album.
Giles clearly loves the boys in the same way, with the same passion of his dad. He's protective, and folds his wings around them., much the way George always did...his voice softens when speaking directly about them, and his pulse quickens with obvious pride. It's just so very right. Thank God for this beautiful continuation of admiration!
What I love about this interview is that Mitchell says something as if it's a fact and Giles forthrightly responds, "NO. I don't think..." Mitchel is talking myth as if it's the same thing as fact. Everything that Giles is saying actually makes more sense AND is verified by what all four Beatles have said time and again I'm so happy to hear Giles speak out against all the nonsense but the power of myth is very strong and people want to hear that there was animosity and discord and fighting and unrest. Of course there was all that to a degree but not anything near what many people have come to believe. Mitchell keeps trying to make blanket one dimensional statements about what the band was doing and what each of the four was like. He can't get it through his head that the four were, like most people, complex multidimensional personalities with contradictions and good and bad. At one point Mitchell says, "They were hippies..." He's struggling to make them one dimensional and to fit into the myth. He is a lousy interviewer and I'm so glad that Giles stands up to the one sided thinking of this guy.
I found it refreshing to hear Mr. Martin gently correcting what has been wrongly printed about that time in their recording lives. We all know Ringo took a holiday during that time, but his homecoming was beautifully done. What a great band they were.
The interviewer isn't listening, he has a narrative and he is sticking to it, bazaar.
Bazaar..is that where he got his hideous shirt?🤔
It’s like he gets upset because he feels like his story is crumbling
You mean BIZARRE.
Small correction: John didn't say of "the movement you need is on your shoulder" that it was "the only good line in the song." Giles portrays this as John being snarky and critical. But in fact John loved and respected Hey Jude as a "masterpiece" and said "it's the best line in it" intending to encourage Paul to keep it in.
Giles is a tough dude. The interviewer wants his received wisdom to be verified. But Giles is not having it. Great interview.
Giles sounds like he really knows his stuff. Genetics, of course, but he is so erudite and knowledgeable, and intelligent, with that great dry sense of humour. Plus he adorable!!!
Just like his dad. Class act not giving in to the pushy media assumptions of what we've heard the session tapes tell the truth
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The Super deluxe remaster by Giles is just sublime. It has brought the White Album up to date and it sounds like it was recorded yesterday. Just terrific work. Kudos. He certainly is his Father's son.
This the perfect example of an interviewer who needs to talk less and listen more. Thankfully Giles Martin is so good he shines through anyway.
I sort of agree... The Love soundtrack was a re-interpretation and his work is okay because it was never meant to be a reissue of a final album. Geoff Emerick, on the other hand, actually worked on Sgt. Pepper and had a lot of negative things to say about that reissue. Mainly because they worked very hard to take common sounds and make them unrecognizable. It was the Beatles intent to do it that way and now the artists' original intent has been violated by "cleaning up" the original work. The Geoff Emerick interview was, I believe, for the Australian ABC Network. It is an absolute shame that he passed away. He had years of insight to share that disappeared with his demise.
would that doof just shut up??!
mr martin , u and ur dad are legends... congrats on ur work
Giles is a brilliant curator of The Beatles music. The music is in such good hands with him.
I couldn't agree more. Just listen to the new version it's a brilliant audio masterpiece. Thank You both Mr. Martins........................Pete Mitchell needs a new position,.. somewhere.....pax
He's fucking shit, his mixes are vandalism.
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@@MIB_63 No, I'm 100% serious. I hate what Giles Martin has done to The Beatles.
@@lucasoheyze4597 Why? Generally Giles has been faithful to the original mixes but have added more warmth, dynamics and clarity to the proceedings. The original mixes lacked bottom end as back in the 60s they had to reduce the bass level before creating the masters for the vinyl albums. Why? Because back then the gramophones weren't able to replay sections with heavy bass without distortion. Please read Geoff Emerick's brilliant book if you don't believe me. What Giles Martin has accomplished is closer to The Beatles own vision IMHO and sounds much better on my Hi-Fi system than the 2019 remasters. How can anyone hate that? But of course you have the right to have your own opinion.
I grew up with the Beatles and read everything to do about them in those days.Collected all sorts of Beatle things and even joined the Beatle club where i used to get their monthly mags.Still have them.There is not much i dont know about them and one thing i do know is that you can never pick a best Beatle album.From a Hard Days Night onwards they were all great.I used to think it was Peppers and then The White album,then Revolve,then one day Help hits you and the great Rubber Soul.In short,they were all great.When you get Abbey Road number one again after 50 years,you know these 4 were unique.There will never be anything like them again.So glad i got to share my life with their music.Simply the best.
Giles is so wonderful to hear as always. with what the project is/was and how his dad was affected by it (classroom gone mad). Essentially it was THE businessmen Beatles now calling the shots and the creativity and musicality was able to grow and flow at any time until it was right. -Competitive nature indeed. We can learn so much from Giles Martin. Thanks for sharing.
It's nice to see how Giles has become such an important part of the beautiful experience that is the Beatles. His late father's musical knowledge and guidance helped channel the Fab Four's creativity to its heights. Two very talented, good men. A pleasure to watch. Thank you.
Giles GETS it and understands just as his dad did. Important music that will stand the test of time.
The Best Double album EVER. It had the spectrum of every music style and some which came much later like Punk, Heavy Metal, Alternative. And this is one of the BEST Beatles related interviews I've come across.
Agree with you on both points.
I am so glad Giles has taken the reins and is working these remasters. His father would be proud!
Expectation for the album? No expectations. We were wide open. You never knew what to expect from The Beatles, you were just excited and ready for it.
Giles Martin is such an amiable engaging fellow with all the class and refinement of his father. What an incredible legacy. He is now the Gatekeeper of The Beatles' recorded output. Lucky man. I would love to see and hear more of Giles, maybe even a speaking tour would be great
I could listen to Giles all day !!
¡Yo también!.
Its cool that Giles, kind of like Glyn Johns’ son Ethan, has earned cred and respect in his own right. Although I admit I can hear Sir George in his voice at times which is strangely comforting.
I have to say I was sceptical until I heard it but my God the recently mixed white album is stunning - credit to Giles
Loved Pete with Geoff on Virgin Radio 🫶
I took the white album to school and we listened to it in the language lab. Because they had turntables. We loved it.
What a wonderful fireside chat! Thanks for posting this♪♫♪ LM USA
giles came up with an amazing mix. and he has a good understanding of how tight the band with while putting these songs together. the influence of practicing tm and hanging with maharishi for 2 months cannot be overstated.
I love these stories just keep adding them.
I can tell you exactly what I thought about it, I was 14, French in France and it was the most incredible magical spiritual fundamental glorious genius album!
Has Mitchell come to this direct from the pub? his memory and concentration seem all over the place. Interesting stuff from Martin.
Well done giles great job especially the Esher demos and the outtakes👌👌🎸🎸🎧🎧
Giles Martin has been doing a brilliant job in the new remixes. Bravo.
I clicked on this video to see Giles talk. And only that
So nice to see George Martin's genes passed on to his son, looks and sounds so like him, his manner, the whole bit. Plus of course his ear for sound!
Ha, he does a good impression of his dad. :-D
He honestly doesn’t have to do much, he sounds quite like him already! :)
He does a great impression of his dear 'ole dad.... glad someone caught that, lol..
Great piece, Thank you so much for the upload!
The remixed version of The White Album and the Esher Demos are FANTASTIC!! They sound great! Is like a new discovery! Excellent job by Giles Martin.👏👏👏
The interviewer needs some remedial "know when to shut up and let your subject talk" lessons.
That interviewer doesn't have a clue. There's nothing bluesy about the happiness is a warm gun demo ffs.
He's a complete dolt. We could've learned twice as much if he would simply shut his yapper.
He's just some guy who works at Abbey Road, come on, give the guy some credit, why is everyone so critical these days,,, the guy is just "some guy", he's obviously not an on air person but he has a job at Abbey road, that's something...
@@gerrardmcmaster4931 He 's not some random guy and he doesn't work at AR. He's apparently a DJ for Virgin Radio and should definitely know better.
@@joelybarish4618 I agree. He needs to realize that absolutely no one is here to listen to him.
SUPERLOVE…..YOU TOUCHED ON THE CONVERSATION PERFECTLY.. 🎼🎹🎶🎸🎶🎹🎼🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Very cool hearing all the details about what really happened. Great stories! Thank you.
You mean in between listening to Mitchell prattling on about how much he thinks he knows?????
Haha! 🤣 Unfortunately very true now that I listen and watch it again! I must’ve had selective hearing for Giles’ words the first time through, but the 2nd time through, it’s noticeably annoying. 🤣😂🤣😂
What Giles has done with the new 50th anniversary of The White Album. My Goodness just absolutely phenomenal. Man Yer Blues and Helter Skelter. Im buzzing about them. Soooooo good. Please Paul can Giles do a remix of Abbey Road remixed to this loudness glory for next year. 👍
Just imagine the remix of 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)'.
June Asiimwe Yeah yeah yeah!!!
I agree. I was quite skeptical at first before he did Sgt. Pepper's last year but that and now the White album remastered and remixed sound amazing.
@@phototristan Yea Giles remixing is fantastic. I first liked his work when i heard The Beatles Love cd. So i knew Pepper was gona be awesome. And now The White Album remix is top notch.
@@phototristan Same. I was a little reluctant at first to listen to the Sgt Pepper remix but then I was blown away by how great it sounded and now the White Album is fantastic. It's made me love both albums more than I already did, especially The White Album. I seriously hope he does Abbey Road as that's my favorite album.
John had his tender moments - Julia, In My Life, Across the Universe, Dear Prudence, Norwegian Wood, Jealous Guy, One Day at a Time - he wasn't the consistently Ron Nasty that everyone paints him as.
2:05 he literally does a perfect impression of his dad
Great Job Giles ! Thank you for bringing us the Beatles. Excellent interview
The White Album was the gateway to my personal Beatlemania. This new remix is a gift to fans.
LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON!!
2:05 I love how he replicates his dad’s voice😂
Giles has done amazing things to these remixes I hope it continues it's brought a breath of fresh air to the recordings and probably sound more like they would have in the studio .
His impression of his father is so spot on
How prophetic and more accurate take on Beatles history in light of the newly released Get Back documentary.
Let this man redo everything from Rubber Soul ON!
Subscribed! Great interview.
Looking at the comments I am glad I'm not the only who would rather just have GILES MARTIN tell us his view of the WHITE ALBUM without this guy named PETE!
I love the Esher demos. Listening to them takes me back to the first times I listened to the Anthology albums.
Great interview, like his father, I could listen to Giles talk all day about the Beatles. I was not aware that Paul played drums on Dear Prudence :)
The Beatles go to India and come back with the best songs of their career and create the White Album. The best double album of all time to this day. And originally it was going to be called A Dolls House. Amazing!
In 1967 it was said that The Beatles signed a multi year contract. So, in order to fulfill the contract and and while John was in India he wrote something like 20-30 songs alone. Paul had written something like 12 songs. George had written like 12 himself. Ringo had two songs. So because of all that The Beatles apart or alone were keen to put a lot of it out. The fact that they got it down to 30 is really impressive.
i love the beatles!
I can't even get through this interview, and I really want to hear what Giles has to say! But this guy Paul Michell is making it intolerable. Wow... just wow
I was born in January 68, that was number one when I was born, great start to this video making me feel good about having just ordered this.
If you were born in January 1968, this album wasn't even released yet. Idiot.
@@Alphasilverback2 listen to the video before calling someone else an idiot. Idiot.
First thing they mention, that's why I said great start, but don't worry about it, internet is the place for misplaced smugness and insulting strangers.
Wow, Pete Mitchell constantly trying to dig up dirt and Giles Martin ever so politely throwing it back in the hole and correcting him with the facts. Giles has class and smarts and does a great job in handling all the myths and assumptions coming from Mitchell.
Giles was brilliant and handled himself very well. Pete Mitchell... that's another story.
I dig Giles Martin update on Sgt Pepper and WA . He seems to be a good guy and respects The Beatles and George Martin original work. This interview contains such good information.
Bloody hell, can't this interviewer stop talking through Giles please?
When Giles imitates his Dad's voice at 2:05, he sounds just like him!
great stuff giles
I didn't think I could get excited about a Beatles re-release again. But Giles Martin delivers the goods! Just as improved as advertised. He went to the bare tracks and remixed it instrument by instrument. ( The Sergeant Pepper's remix is even more important because that album was only mixed with the stereo mix as an afterthought. That being said, I prefer The White Album. This remix makes it even better.)
'Glass Onion' is like a Stax / Soul song? Not to me, Pete. Now, 'Got To Get You Into My Life', maybe. I have not typically found the need to criticize interviewers, and do not like to be negative (quite the opposite in fact), but I have to say that I agree with others here about Pete Mitchell's mishandling of this interview (I also have spent the last 21 years interviewing people professionally, in very sensitive situations). Mitchell interrupts Giles (the person who he is 'interviewing'); does not listen to Giles's answers, and reveals a slipshod and unprofessional approach to research (in which he knows one or two of the facts surrounding something, but then gets the rest wrong because - as he admits - he has not pursued various stories fully, thereby revealing an almost studied ignorance). If I were his bosses at Virgin Radio UK, I would never again let Pete Mitchell near an interview gig.
Did I just listen to a 23 minute interview about the White Album with "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" getting 0 mentions?
SO HAPPY that the LEGACY of THE BEATLES is in GREAT GEORGE MARTIN DYNASTY hands with GILES !!!!
Even though there was some time between the recordings of the White Album and Let It Be, I think the "Get Back" documentary validates some of what Giles is saying about the band and their actual dynamic.
Great stuff.
How knowing that 'Please keep off the grass' photo is. Plenty of great music in all eras, but we won't see their like again.
I could quite happily hear Pete Mitchell not say anything for hours.
Now that was really interesting!
Anexperimentall band who I really care for their music as been with me johns singing I get his moods the way he was feeling thanks Giles and your dad George
It always helps when the interviewer has some knowledge of the subject. This one had nether.
One of the things I enjoyed with Giles is his take on John saying that they were breaking up during the white album. Giles just kind of grimaces a bit showing that he would disagree with John's take on it and wonder why he felt that way when all the tapes show a different understanding. John could be such a hypocrite. He was negative on so many things but then would try and make you think he was such a positive guy. Giles does a very good job explaining what he came to understand about those sessions and how it was different than what John was espousing later on when reflecting about those times. Not sure if Pete Mitchell should've been doing this interview. I would've asked more technical questions about the recordings of certain songs instead of if they were getting along. Like what was he doing on the remastering that was so different than what his Dad did. I think his Dad would be proud of Giles work and give it a thumbs up. Classy guy. Just my 2¢. Good day mates.
Just look at the way Giles stares at Pete while Pete is talking, as if to say,"you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and I have to sit here and listen to your stupid gibberish."
I Loved GILES COMMENT WHEN HE SAID IF THE BEATLES DIDN'T GET ON WHY DID THEY GO TO INDIA TOGETHER AND PRODUCE ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS IN HISTORY 👍
This is cool in that Pete Mitchell is giving us the party line that people love to believe that the Beatles are falling apart and angry. Giles doesn’t buy it and has the depth of understanding of being in the studio on tape to counter this tripe.
The White Album is my favourite. It was Christmas. I did get this piece in my hands. Stereo!? What? I didn’t have a stereo gramophone? But i didn’t care. After wrapped of the paper I ran up to my room and put it on the table. And wow! There they were!!? What a treat! The Band of all times! What A Rocker!! I cryed. I laughed. This is still the Album I listen from A to Z. Every time. It’s a journey. I’ve got 4 copies vinyl and 2 cd’s. There are not a bad tone on that piece. Is it my favourite? No! Ofcourse it is.
My personal favorite song is Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey, with Savoy Truffle coming in a close second place.
I love how Giles doesn’t hesitate to correct people on their Beatles facts!
pete mitchell did fine. giles should know more about this topic.
Happiness is warm gun sounds so much better than it did before. The bass intro is awesome!!
Just finished reading engineer Geoff Emeric’s book and as someone who was there ... he sure has a different take on everyone getting along. He quit because the vibe was so toxic. Regardless, white album is pure brilliance.
@@detroitfunk313 So much so you have to treat many of his remarks with deep skepticism
It wasn’t just Geoff who felt that way. Geoff’s view of the sessions was in line with George Martin and for many years all the Beatles themselves. It’s only recently that Paul and Ringo speak of it fondly. So it’s interesting that Giles finds no evidence of tension.
Geoff’s book is a favorite of mine. Well told. Honest. Detailed.
Yes. I too have read Emeric's book and yes it was a toxic environment to the point where he left the band for and extended period of time do to the bad vibes/fighting that was going on. George Martin has stated the same many times so I have to wonder why Giles argues otherwise. Perhaps he's trying to shed light in another direction so as to make the story fresh so that it won't sound simply like another rehash. It's important in my opinion also to recognize that Giles, as the son of George was a child at the time the Beatles were making records and as such he really is not much of an "expert" simply by association. He was not there at the sessions and really he only has his opinion which is probably only slightly more valuable that those of a person who has studied the history of this band. To put it bluntly, I reject the notion that somehow Giles, by virtue of the fact that he is the son of the Beatles record producer is somehow and expert on what actually went on. George Martin himself has given many interviews over the years and stated how the band had grown apart around the White Album time span. Enough said.
Apparently Geoff's book was pieced together from a number of sources because even then Geoff's memory was pretty poor. Also, Geoff's bias against George and (a lesser extent) John kind of devalues the book for me. I don't think it is accurate, honest or more than 30% true. Geoff gave many interviews later where he completely contradicted statements form the book because he couldn't remember and he didn't really write it.
The White Album is one i listen to the least, but one i play songs from on the piano all the time. "Honey Pie," "Goodnight," "Happiness is a Warm Gun" are extraordinary to play for yourself, which feels like an ultimate test of good songwriting.
Wow; I just looked this up! Giles Martin was born on October 9, 1969, John Lennon's 29th Birthday!
Such a wonderful album! I believe it is the biggest seller of the 60s. 4 mio. copies sold. My favourite of the 60s is Waiting for the Sun by The Doors. Also beautifully produced.
Double albums count as two, so you’re probably right
If only Giles produced the children of the Beatles in a group. Will we please see this in our life time.
God l hope l can listen to the Beatles in my Afterlife
Pete Mitchell needs to shut up and just listen to the music. His personal projections say everything about him and nothing about the music. With Giles you get depth and nuance. An edit reflecting that would make this much better.
Peter Jackson's "Get Back" supports Giles Martin's observations that the stories about the Beatles disliking each other are exaggerated. They were blunt with each other and fought with each other but their love and care was always there.