The Porsche Taycan battery scandal that has been kept hidden

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The Porsche Taycan battery scandal that has been kept hidden
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  • First there was diesel-gate, then there was battery-gate. Don’t tell anybody.

    @davidlife4983@davidlife4983 Жыл бұрын
    • Just surprised that it took so long to FLARE up. 😂😂😂

      @lesliecarter4295@lesliecarter4295 Жыл бұрын
  • *VW group is a nightmare.*

    @eugeniustheodidactus8890@eugeniustheodidactus8890 Жыл бұрын
  • The challange for car manufacturers coming late to the EV business is: learning cycle where they sort through such issues. The Taycan is a great first attempt, but reliability takes time to dial in. This prevents manufacturers from scaling up fast. This is another huge advantage for Tesla. Also, the europeans and GM have overly complex electronic systems. Tesla is simpler and more robust.

    @sailingsandy7971@sailingsandy7971 Жыл бұрын
    • And military grade according to Sandy

      @christianvanderstap6257@christianvanderstap6257 Жыл бұрын
    • @@christianvanderstap6257 And to a great extent modular

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
    • The Taycan is "a first attempt" (apparently not so "great"?) That was years later than it should have been. A legacy of the "Tesla will fail .. ignore them" mentality exhibited by so many.

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rogerstarkey5390 The Taycan has been a great sales success for Porsche and it was the fastest production electric car you could buy until the Plaid came along. For supercar manufacturers it is probably harder to take that big leap to all electric. Even Tesla has been pushing out the roadster.

      @sailingsandy7971@sailingsandy7971 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sailingsandy7971 @Sailing Sandy None of which contradicts my points. It was years later as a "first attempt" than it should have been. Doesn't exactly have to sell in great numbers to beat other Porsches. Its harder NOW to "take the big leap... As I said, they informed Tesla. Big mistake."Supercar"? Model S (old version) says "hi". It's compromised. Same physical footprint as the S, poor packaging . The roadster is from a different galaxy.

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
  • I put a deposit down on a Porsche Taycan 4S last year but changed my mind when I learned about the 12V battery drain issue, Porsche dealer was clueless and denied there was any problem, bought a Tesla Model S instead, SO GLAD I did.

    @Greg29@Greg29 Жыл бұрын
    • You escaped a lemon and house 🔥 Buy Tesla 🇺🇲

      @larryc1616@larryc1616 Жыл бұрын
    • @@larryc1616 Yep it was a good decision!

      @Greg29@Greg29 Жыл бұрын
    • Are you in Australia? If so, how long did you have to wait for your Model S? On what date did you order the Model S.? ( I have had a Model S on order for more than a year).

      @jameswalsh8837@jameswalsh8837 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jameswalsh8837 No I'm in the US, it took 9 months to get my Model S long range, ordered April 2021 and picked it up end of January this year. The wait can be very dependent on which wheels and interior you choose. It's worth the wait though!

      @Greg29@Greg29 Жыл бұрын
    • Lol unlikely you did either of those 2 things. And I say this as someone who owns a Model S and my wife owns a Taycan 4S.

      @majortakleef8445@majortakleef8445 Жыл бұрын
  • Battery and EV safety and technology constantly improve. Car makers that adapt survive. Millions of ICE vehicles have been recalled as fire hazards already this year here in the USA.

    @stevennelson7518@stevennelson7518 Жыл бұрын
    • Germans pride themselves on quality and engineering. Or used to. I have a VW. It's brilliant. However, dealing with the company (not the dealership) is a nightmare.

      @peterinns5136@peterinns5136 Жыл бұрын
    • You're right. If you search "(brand of car) recall, fire risk" it's terrifying.

      @andrewsaint6581@andrewsaint6581 Жыл бұрын
    • A bunch of BMW models (ICE) were even banned from South Korean roadways due to fire hazards.

      @ClockworksOfGL@ClockworksOfGL Жыл бұрын
  • Not to open up old scars but Ferdinand Porsche's attempt at making a diesel electric Tiger tank ended in the tank catching fire. Just saying!

    @pforce9@pforce9 Жыл бұрын
    • lol, well he was WAY ahead of his time - without the tech to back his vision - and just couldn't make it work. Those tanks were all SO overweight (heavy batteries).

      @BrianAllenWS@BrianAllenWS Жыл бұрын
    • @@BrianAllenWS The technology must have existed because the U boats were diesel electric and those tanks did not have heavy batteries because they were diesel electric. That is diesel turns a generator that powers an electric motor. The German's knew all about it. Porsche's tank had some small problem that caused the fire. He was not given a chance to correct it.

      @pforce9@pforce9 Жыл бұрын
    • diesel electrics like those presently used in trains don't use batteries for this system.

      @Akira-nw4jl@Akira-nw4jl Жыл бұрын
    • Meaningless comment.

      @moestrei@moestrei Жыл бұрын
  • Make it. Deliver it. Let insurance deal with it. Same guy that came up with THAT is now running the ENTIRE VW Corporation. He WILL set the World on fire - one EV brand at a time.

    @r.a.monigold9789@r.a.monigold9789 Жыл бұрын
  • The picture in minute 4:00 shows a burned down Tesla

    @christianwaldner106@christianwaldner106 Жыл бұрын
  • A friend of mine had a recall for his Taycan to „repair something“ which took several days & he wasn’t even told what was the reason.. Wonder why..? 🤦‍♂️

    @michaelkainbacher6696@michaelkainbacher6696 Жыл бұрын
    • was it a friend if yours or the uncle of a friend of your sisters? thanks for the anecdotal confirmation bias

      @zone2training@zone2training Жыл бұрын
  • Hey Sam, and thanks for this, and so many other, updates in the EV world. It is clear that a number of manufacturers have rushed into the EV market before they had everything in order, to the detriment of their customers. As with all newly developed and introduced technology, it is always better to wait a few years for it to mature before buying into it.

    @Paul_Caruana@Paul_Caruana Жыл бұрын
    • The lack of over the air updates seems a big omission for this premium brand and not learning from other car manufacturers mistakes another, arrogance or stupidity hard to define!

      @peteturner8493@peteturner8493 Жыл бұрын
    • It is ironic how they criticize Tesla and Elon Musk on their dead lines, but this is exactly the reason why, Tesla goes to extreme lengths to test their tech and make sure it is ready to be delivered. That's why it has taken so long to release the Cybertruck and the Tesla semi, they are being extensively tested.

      @andresd6193@andresd6193 Жыл бұрын
    • Actually, generally the older manufacturers do more testing. Tesla delays are usually from trying to perfect new revolutionary manufacturing techniques. Those delays are down to getting the battery manufacturing to actually work (DBE & 4680 tabless format) & GigaCasting issues. The Semi, Roadster2 & CyberTruck all need high density fast charge 4680 in massive quantities & 4680 production is still not at full ramp yet.

      @alexmanojlovic768@alexmanojlovic768 Жыл бұрын
    • If your advice were followed no new technologies would emerge. Sometimes it’s worthwhile supporting something you like the idea of even if it’s in its early stages.

      @paulmcgreevy3011@paulmcgreevy3011 Жыл бұрын
    • @@alexmanojlovic768 "Actually" delays in this case are more likely to be due to *not having built the factory* ? Plus well documented "issues" outside their control. As for the cell density, quantity required and production rate ..... You're guessing.

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
  • LG Chem had also a global recall of It's homebattery-systems produced from 2018-2020. VW-ID3 had the 12V problem, too.

    @quantenfels@quantenfels Жыл бұрын
    • LG is a continuing dumpster fire at this point. They're in big trouble. CATL is running away with everything.

      @BrianAllenWS@BrianAllenWS Жыл бұрын
  • The Felicity Ace sinking was the worst of it and Porsche is VERY lucky all the evidence is at the bottom of the ocean. The weird thing is Audi didn't use that charger, they opted for the better one.

    @frankcoffey@frankcoffey Жыл бұрын
    • What do you mean? Audi Etron GT is the same J1 platform, with the same parts.

      @Krihoe@Krihoe3 ай бұрын
    • @@Krihoe Have you checked the parts catalog? Every report I've read says the charger part is different.

      @frankcoffey@frankcoffey3 ай бұрын
  • BYD Tang seems to use 350kwh per kilometer at 70 mph on the highway. Very inefficient. Better check into this.

    @eb1888.@eb1888. Жыл бұрын
    • You sure your unit is correct? kWh is a lot of power.

      @christianvanderstap6257@christianvanderstap6257 Жыл бұрын
    • I believe all of BYD vehicles are inefficient That’s why you do not really see them around America. Our MPG or eMPG will always bring in less then other countries

      @daddystired@daddystired Жыл бұрын
  • One of the Porsche whistleblowers last year said 90 cars caught on fire. If Tesla had anywhere near that number it would be front page newspaper stuff. Some famous KZheadrs like Shmee 150 got rid of their Taycans and never looked back.

    @LarryHatch@LarryHatch Жыл бұрын
  • Is there a list available of EVs with LG batteries?

    @hartoz@hartoz Жыл бұрын
    • Call your local fire department they will know.

      @royphillips7644@royphillips7644 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, am pretty sure the Zoe uses them, but a different version which seems to not have this issue. There have been very few Zoe fires for the around 400,000 vehicles sold so far. So it's not all LG Chem cells, just a lot of them. It's really time for EV makers to stop buying LG cells...

      @ledsalesoz@ledsalesoz Жыл бұрын
  • Great reporting mate!

    @WAB2138@WAB2138 Жыл бұрын
  • Great professional content. Keep up the good work. Subscribed👍

    @JJamJ@JJamJ Жыл бұрын
  • I don't want my chestnuts roasting over an open (EV) fire.

    @mobileprofessional@mobileprofessional Жыл бұрын
  • VW has apparently been involved in a lot of shady automotive related issues over the last decade at least. If this is true about Porsche (I have heard this other places as well) what do we have to look forward to when the current head of Porsche takes over responsibility for the entire VW operation. How many corners will they cut to try and catch up to Tesla?

    @joebuchanan509@joebuchanan509 Жыл бұрын
    • Holy shit, had forgotten that it's the Porsche guy taking over until I read your comment (when the Diess departure was announced I stopped paying attention to VW). VW is so screwed by losing Diess!!! OMG!! I had such hope for them!

      @BrianAllenWS@BrianAllenWS Жыл бұрын
    • @@BrianAllenWS yes, warn your friends! The shady behavior can only spread across the whole VW line now that Porsche's guy is at the helm,

      @richf3654@richf3654 Жыл бұрын
    • @@richf3654 the Porsche guy taking over VW going by these disturbing reports he wont be cutting corners he(VW/Porsche) will keep cutting until they have a circle,i mean look @ the vw diselgate scandal there attiude to sell crap treat the customer/regulators worse has not changed one bit, NHTSA ought to outright ban any Porsche EV sales until there is a proven fix witnessed and audited by NHSTA (maybe Munroe can audit the fix)

      @kevinmatthews2620@kevinmatthews2620 Жыл бұрын
    • All the German companies have been running scams from emissions to batteries.

      @mrknesiah@mrknesiah Жыл бұрын
    • Unfortunately there is more. VW Group has also been involved in a lot of shady non-automotive related issues. Blume (new VW Group CEO aka head of Porsche) lobbied hard for efuels to be not banned (new legislation intended to do so) and bragged how he managed to influence a German minister to overturn the ban on efuels.

      @Scrap-press@Scrap-press Жыл бұрын
  • This is very interesting. Thanks.

    @richardsmith579@richardsmith579 Жыл бұрын
  • Now I have this channel on #1

    @WAB2138@WAB2138 Жыл бұрын
  • Which politicians have an investment interest in any of the companies concerned with the fire issues, there’s no smoke without fire and there’s no coverup without a politician in the sideline 🤷🏻‍♂️

    @firstnamesecondname5341@firstnamesecondname5341 Жыл бұрын
  • This was very very prescient. Following you for this.

    @deenibassam3002@deenibassam30028 ай бұрын
  • When car managers listen to politicians mouth instead of using their brain...

    @mortenh.o.703@mortenh.o.7039 ай бұрын
  • About 1 in 10,000 Bolts caught fire. Porche has a nearly 50% larger pack, but that doesn't get you to 1%. That number is way too big.

    @fjalics@fjalics Жыл бұрын
  • I have a turbo s and I had 1 issue after getting the car where the car would not go over 20 mph, it was fixed by the dealership by replacing a cooling valve but no other issues so far. 2020 model and had it about 8 months for now. Fingers crossed

    @podd9193@podd9193 Жыл бұрын
  • Liability implications boggle the hitherto most unboggleable mind.

    @MrStuart21@MrStuart21 Жыл бұрын
  • All manufacturers should think about going to cell to pack configurations like BYD blade. Apart from the intrinsic safety of LFP being an advantage, being able to monitor the exact voltage of each individual cell is a much safer set up. A parallel group of smaller cells can have one or more underperforming cells within it but there's no way of detecting this before it's too late and fire ensues while you're tucked up in bed. 😲

    @Macmonkey1000@Macmonkey1000 Жыл бұрын
    • I disagree..you can detect it, you only won't know which in the group is the broken one..also it's expensive.

      @tkswdr@tkswdr Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video, The Porsche Taycan has a beautiful front, back, and side design but unfortunately, the car battery is not good, it is either catching fire or dying.

    @menaseven9093@menaseven90933 ай бұрын
  • Sam, thanks for speaking truth!

    @181soulgazer@181soulgazer Жыл бұрын
  • The website carfigures reports that through July 2022 approximately 20,000 Taycans have been sold in the USA. How could a recall of 43,000 be issued last year?

    @generalaccess4645@generalaccess4645 Жыл бұрын
  • Yes, it is very surprising if Volkswagen has covered this up. They are normally very transparent with their failed constructions, aren't they?

    @ingmarkronfeldt6174@ingmarkronfeldt6174 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm surprised the marine insurers haven't required special fire supression systems for any vessel carrying EV's.

    @lyfandeth@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
    • Only the ones with LG Chem batteries

      @royphillips7644@royphillips7644 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi my friend, I would love to have you thoughts on pre native startup like Fisker and Canoo, both with a particular dna …

    @oliviertlv@oliviertlv Жыл бұрын
  • If I had to charge cells in parallel prior to stacking in series, then I would leave the cells to rest while still in parallel for a long period or at least until they had naturally cooled. Then initiate a further top balance of the series stack. Kind of defeats the fast charge objective a bit.

    @robertgregory8964@robertgregory8964 Жыл бұрын
  • The insurance company for the Felicity will want its money back. If this comes out properly. Ouch.

    @andreasbucher7717@andreasbucher7717 Жыл бұрын
  • Do you have the documentation for the 60% number? I have had mine for two years and have not had any issues.

    @ChuckJ1944@ChuckJ1944 Жыл бұрын
    • Of course he doesn’t. We are still waiting for the whistleblower’s stats to be verified with REAL FIRES!

      @tljonesgmail@tljonesgmail Жыл бұрын
  • The 12 V battery issue is not unique to Porsche. Volkswagon ID3, Hyandai Kona electric, Ioniq 5. Kia e-niro have had similar issues with their 12V battery system. I wouldn't even be surprised Trsla owners to have had them too (seeing you could acces the 12V battery in older Teslas to access the 12V battery for maintenance. Battery Life KZhead (German) and other KZheadrs have also reported on 12V battery issues. I think that was the reason Elon Musk switched to Liion 12V batteries in their newer models. Elon also mentioned in one if his interviews lately that he found the 12V system inadequate in modern cars. 48 V would be a better system (I believe it was perhaps an interview with MKBHD). Imbalance issue is a constant problem with every EV. And is not unique to Porsche. I think even Tesla is constantly refining the BMS. Without a BMS in consumer goods people are going into problems with cell imbalances. I don't know in what manner the thermal runaway due to high power charging with a BMS applies. I can't imagine this could be the case because a BMS always tries to power up cells equally. Having said that cell imbalance issue having been a bog issue in many consumer goods. I myself have run into this when buying second hand power tool lion batteries from high end tool manufacturer brands. Many were defective from the start and could not take a charge. On inspection of the battery many in series and parallel we're imbalanced which causes the charging to stop prematurely. There are simple techniques to bring them up to balance and then they work again. Just look across many KZhead videos on this matter, it is amazing to see how common this issue is. It goes to show how important a good BMS is. And the clue unfortunately is that fast super charging is unfortunately not good for the battery life, no matter how much we want fast charging to match the convenience of the perceived fast fill up of an ICE vehicle. I think it is going to be an interesting future with EVs wherein the global society is going (to have to) be smarter and more knowledgeable to own and maintain and understand an EV in abstract (atomic,electron level knowledge and advanced physics), than the more concrete knowledge of screws, pipes and pistons and suck squeeze bamg blow (basic physics).

    @medman36@medman36 Жыл бұрын
    • you have a good understanding of how batteries actually work. Supercharging should be a quick fix for distance driving on the road but a slow charging done at your home is the best way to prevent batteries from failing prematurely. I had a Prius that I used to work alot on it to repair battery issues. The problem was that the entire pack was in series. No parralel or redundancy. Once a single cell failed, the entire car failed. And no 2 cells are created equal. I designed a way to independently parallel balance the cells but eventually got tired of other things breaking down that I abandoned the project.

      @Akira-nw4jl@Akira-nw4jl Жыл бұрын
    • Das Problem mit der 12-Volt-Batterie haben fast alle modernen Autos. Sämtliche elektronischen Helferlein, die stets zu Diensten sein wollen, saugen permanent Strom. Da hilft nur, wie bei meinem E-Auto, ein Ruhemodus, der sie mit Ausnahme des Empfängers für das Schlüsselsignals abschaltet. Das heißt aber auch, dass die zum Auto gehörende App nicht mehr funktioniert. Aber das Auto tut das, selbst nachdem es wochenlang abgestellt war. Google translation: Almost all modern cars have the problem with the 12-volt battery. All electronic helpers that always want to be of service constantly suck electricity. The only thing that helps, as with my electric car, is a sleep mode that switches them off with the exception of the receiver for the key signal. But that also means that the app belonging to the car no longer works. But the car does, even after being parked for weeks.

      @schnaeutz4546@schnaeutz4546 Жыл бұрын
    • Teslas used to be known for killing the 12v battery. Not a flaw inherent to EVs, it was just the way Tesla designed their system at the time. If the DC-DC converter is too wimpy (and many of them are), the car will be forced to tap the lead acid battery more than it should.

      @ClockworksOfGL@ClockworksOfGL Жыл бұрын
    • @@ClockworksOfGL Nothing to do with the capacity of the DC/DC. But the cars computer needs to wake up every now and then, check the 12V battery and top it up as required. Tesla fixed that with a software update. They might have a higher phantom drain but they look after themselves better than others whilst parked.

      @moestrei@moestrei Жыл бұрын
  • With so many different companies building new models of electric vehicles, with different takes on battery technology; I expect the next couple of years will be a shit-show of recalls, burning cars, scandals and bankruptcies.

    @seanmcdevitt6073@seanmcdevitt6073 Жыл бұрын
  • Sam, can you advise if Tesla are using LG Chem ? I saw a video the other day, talking about Tesla getting BYD Blade batteries, but also, I thought, LG Chem, as well.

    @Rovinman@Rovinman Жыл бұрын
    • Tesla uses Panasonic, CATL, and now BYD.

      @royjonzejr@royjonzejr Жыл бұрын
  • Soon they will be known as Portch, as where they will be sitting mid-days.

    @chrisborns5972@chrisborns5972 Жыл бұрын
  • Wasn’t Porsche bragging about setting a new record at the Nuremberg Ring? Maybe it’s built for the track only.

    @royphillips7644@royphillips7644 Жыл бұрын
  • LG HAD AN ISSUE WITH REFRIDGERATORS CATCHING ON FIRE AND BURNING HOMES .

    @todddowney45@todddowney45 Жыл бұрын
  • I think Porsche has had electrical issues for long time. 1993 911 (964) & 1998 911(993).. both would drain the battery if it was left unattended for 4 days. If you drove daily no issues, dealer said nothing wrong. Ended up putting the car on a charger anytime it wasn’t driven. Really pissed when the replacement did the same thing.

    @davidhowe7492@davidhowe7492 Жыл бұрын
    • interestingly enough I have previously owned a 964 and currently own a 993 which I have had for 22 years and I have not had a battery drain from either of these vehicles during my ownership. The 993 can easily go 4 weeks between startups without a battery tender and without issue, Just saying ..

      @allomony4010@allomony4010 Жыл бұрын
    • 9:04 Mostly True ~ The Radio/Amp/On Board Computer ~ Heated Seats/ ~ & 12V Socket Stay Electrified While Car Is Sitting ~ If You Don't Drive Your Car For 4/5 Days Your Battery Won't Be Charged By The Alternator

      @Chris-Watts666@Chris-Watts6665 ай бұрын
  • I had an ID.4 with battery timer charging issues, and an issue where it would only charge at a low rate intermittently. The dealer acknowledged the problem after the car's computer log reported it and told me nothing could be done until a software update. Despite a promise of regular updates every three weeks or so none were delivered after six months of ownership.

    @robburrows2737@robburrows2737 Жыл бұрын
    • Funny how Musk & Herbert Diess are good friends, MUSK OFFERED to help Porsche with BMS software, but Porsche said "no thanks" & sacked Diess. Well done Porsche. Who wants to buy a 2nd hand Porsche FryCan.

      @alexmanojlovic768@alexmanojlovic768 Жыл бұрын
    • @@alexmanojlovic768 "Frycan" Nice! You're going to annoy the PFBs with that one!

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rogerstarkey5390 TBH I like Porsches & I think VAG were unfairly blamed for the whole DieselGate scandal. All ICE manufacturers pulled the same con, but the way Porsche are burying this, they deserve all the flak they get.

      @alexmanojlovic768@alexmanojlovic768 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@alexmanojlovic768 No, it wasent the same. All fossile manufacturers have higher emissions than what they are approved for, but this is in reality due to bad testing methology. What VAG did was much worse, they made software that detected if the car was under testing. That made the car go into a "green" mode, which reduced emissions (but also engine power). In reality this means that the cars were much dirtier, also they were playing the games and cheating competition. Just think if you are a competitor with an engine and you can only deliver 90 HP with emissions approved, but VAG then comes and produces 120 Hp with same emissions or maybe lower.. So nobody buys your car and you go bankrupt. Thats basically what happened, then they got caught and they cheated again. And after that, VAG, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes wanted to prove how safe diesel emissions were, so they set up a joint lab which gassed monkeys and humans with diesel fumes from a VW Beetle and an american pickup truck.

      @OlavAlexanderMjelde@OlavAlexanderMjelde Жыл бұрын
    • @@OlavAlexanderMjelde Really??!! How about FCA (Fiat Chrysler Auto). Renault, Nissan, Opel (GM), Jeep, BMW, Mercedes Documented & most prosecuted in various countries, as all using defeat devices or software that performed differently under certain conditions. You talk out of your posterior!

      @alexmanojlovic768@alexmanojlovic768 Жыл бұрын
  • tesl has the most quality errirs and fail plastic interior. most fires are from Tesla's

    @carlosbrazao6039@carlosbrazao6039 Жыл бұрын
    • Delusional

      @kuznacbendelejev6924@kuznacbendelejev6924 Жыл бұрын
  • Yup. Two companies I avoid. VW and LG.

    @simongross3122@simongross3122 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi Mr Tesla , that’s a great presentation. Could you guide me as to when would you anticipate that Porsche resolve this issue? I am a diehard Porsche fan and about to buy a Taycan GTS As a matter of fact I am about to drive to my dealership today Thanks even if you are unable to respond in the next two hours

    @ggill1530@ggill1530 Жыл бұрын
    • Good luck

      @mortenh.o.703@mortenh.o.7039 ай бұрын
  • Nice work

    @khoatran415@khoatran415 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video !!!

    @dimitrakarali4305@dimitrakarali4305 Жыл бұрын
  • This is a problem with Li-ion type of lithium batteries such as 18650. They can start a fire and explode. This is different from the more recent Chinese EVs in which LifePo4 batteries are used which is much safer although with slightly lower energy density.

    @josephdewuhan@josephdewuhan Жыл бұрын
  • Porsche, leaders in design.

    @markrowland1366@markrowland1366 Жыл бұрын
    • 🔥⚡🔥🔥

      @larryc1616@larryc1616 Жыл бұрын
  • 💀 German auto makers 💀

    @larryc1616@larryc1616 Жыл бұрын
  • This is VERY exagerated. It was in Danish national news back in '20, that 50% of Taycans had battery issues. One caught fire out of +700 Taycans sold at that time, a software update solved the issue.

    @MissMiaFit@MissMiaFit Жыл бұрын
    • Software didn't solve the issue, it just reduced charge state. Porsche was telling people to charge at 200kw instead of 250kw.

      @Victor-vj5ds@Victor-vj5ds Жыл бұрын
    • @@Victor-vj5ds nahh, solved, we have a great deal of friends with Taycans. Problem solved, and no words of charging at certain peak, that cannot be controlled.

      @MissMiaFit@MissMiaFit Жыл бұрын
    • @@Victor-vj5ds non issue now, easy software fix

      @Kpizzo@Kpizzo Жыл бұрын
    • @@Kpizzo it was not a hardware fix the pouch cells where physically restricted from the cooling plate by being stacked on top of eachother. This caused in even degradation the BMS was not able to detect and caused over charging on the weakest cell that often ended in fire damage.

      @Victor-vj5ds@Victor-vj5ds Жыл бұрын
    • @@MissMiaFit nope, it wasn't solved. They just did a bunch of stealth recalls to fix the BMS, unfortunately the pouch cells still have poor cooling and why you see a tiny warranty on the battery with many restrictions around charging that could void it.

      @Victor-vj5ds@Victor-vj5ds Жыл бұрын
  • I have the same IKEA cabinet in the background

    @charleschenhua@charleschenhua6 ай бұрын
  • It's Volkswagen. I'm not surprised about anything that comes to light about VW's actions or ethics

    @Allride_@Allride_ Жыл бұрын
  • and strangely the president of Volkswagen resigned recently. Merci pour ces informations

    @teslasympa@teslasympa Жыл бұрын
    • No .he got FIRED 😂😂😂😂

      @lesliecarter4295@lesliecarter4295 Жыл бұрын
    • @@lesliecarter4295 you’re right 😊

      @teslasympa@teslasympa Жыл бұрын
  • Porsche is often pronounced incorrectly with one syllable instead of the correct version with 2 syllables and it seems to follow 1 Non European version vs 2 European version.

    @ronthomas8108@ronthomas8108 Жыл бұрын
  • Like you said, VW cover ups are par for the course.

    @keilder8543@keilder8543 Жыл бұрын
  • The burning car at 00:18 is not a taycan.

    @tadeuferreira5705@tadeuferreira5705 Жыл бұрын
  • So how many other manufacturers are using the LG batteries? How did GM fix the issue of the Bolt EV?

    @danielc45@danielc45 Жыл бұрын
  • This is the most beautiful ev

    @Zedrulove@Zedrulove Жыл бұрын
  • The mainstream in germany covers it, but only sees one single incident per article but not the whole coherence.

    @ingo_8628@ingo_8628 Жыл бұрын
  • Is there a world EPA that will hold the company that caused the Felicity Ace sinking to account? or will it be left to the insurers? Could you please do a follow up vid on this. Thanks

    @wapphigh5250@wapphigh5250 Жыл бұрын
    • Nobody will ever find proper evidence, we will hear nothing from it anymore.

      @pan6593@pan6593 Жыл бұрын
    • Why would the EPA get involved? The ship isn’t US flagged and never made it to the US.

      @williammeek4078@williammeek4078 Жыл бұрын
  • Hyundai Ionic 5s have had a similar problem with the 12v battery system rendering the cars dead in the water.

    @DavGreg@DavGreg Жыл бұрын
  • I would never have thought a Porsche Taycan would create a huge oil spill in the ocean.

    @awjelfs5034@awjelfs5034 Жыл бұрын
  • You reported about the UK 100 percent want an electric vehicle. And showed the study that said at the right price. And I said they didn't ask me. When in the future cars are restricted or even banned for having the 'wrong type of battery' and significantly huge costs of disposal are imposed in addition to severe home and car insurance costs for having the wrong type of battery then leople might not feel the fuel cost savings were worth it. In very few years time newer more efficient safer batteries will wipe the smiles off early adopters. When the world can genuinely provide enough energy from sources without political risks and the threats of politically imposed blackouts are history you'll find the buyers with a smirk to last.

    @carusmike@carusmike Жыл бұрын
    • And after a fire in the channel tunnel that can't be extinguished will there be restrictions? Wrong type of battery and tunnels?

      @carusmike@carusmike Жыл бұрын
  • i got one, know people who got one... never heard of it happen in belgium.... last week a land rover evoque burned out in belgium ...

    @kjellvandenbroeke720@kjellvandenbroeke7204 ай бұрын
  • Please correct me if I'm wrong but was wasn't there confirmed news that at least Matt's Taycan was on board? Matt from thesmokingtire? If there was 1 there was probably more, but even 1 might be enough to burst into flames

    @Allride_@Allride_ Жыл бұрын
  • BTW, great to see you own more than one shirt.

    @jonm.3173@jonm.3173 Жыл бұрын
  • Is this VW Diesel gate all over again in from of Porsche 🤣

    @topev7864@topev7864 Жыл бұрын
  • The problem is LG batteries and OEMs having too little understanding how to manage charging batteries.

    @fjanson2468@fjanson2468 Жыл бұрын
    • The problem is that the high 800 volt battery. The high power may be to high for the current technology. Most EV use 400 volts .

      @rayRay-pw6gz@rayRay-pw6gz Жыл бұрын
  • It's coincidence like this that give anti electric vehicle group more reason to knock the manufactures that don't have issues.This is a problem LG Chem should address quickly

    @myronp243@myronp243 Жыл бұрын
  • Alex Voigt with new hairs? 🤣🤣

    @rs3800@rs3800 Жыл бұрын
  • Porsche top mngt was initiating firing Dies. Says it all!! After diesel gate again shit within the VW group as it looks and same process: denying. If so hope customers will simply stop ordering Porsche!

    @lumtavon1952@lumtavon1952 Жыл бұрын
  • The oceans cover land. All those minerals that went down with the ship that Viking was so concerned about are all ready down there in huge quantities. There are also many oil deposits leaching out into the ocean on a permanent basis. The ocean can easily deal with them.

    @paulmcgreevy3011@paulmcgreevy3011 Жыл бұрын
  • Not the only German manufacturer with 12 volt battery problems. My M3 will have a dead battery if not driven for 9 or 10 days, or put on a float charger.

    @67daltonknox@67daltonknox Жыл бұрын
  • Does the Taycan use the same pouch cells that the Chevy Bolt uses? Those things are a nightmare!

    @surferdude4487@surferdude4487 Жыл бұрын
  • The Porsche Taycan is selling fairly well for them. It is a low volume product, not price competitive with the Tesla at all, but overall Porsche is fairly happy with the product, and I expect their next product, to be better. It is my understanding that the next Porsche EV will be its #1 product, the Macan, which will have an EV version in 2024 model year. We won't see Porsche fully unleashed until they can get away from VW Group; at present there is too much platform sharing, and this really limits Porsche. I would like to see an ultracapacitor added to the vehicle for fast regen braking absorption.

    @edwarddejong8025@edwarddejong8025 Жыл бұрын
    • Calling the car a new name won’t solve the catching fire problem.

      @fredbloggs5902@fredbloggs5902 Жыл бұрын
    • @@fredbloggs5902 There is no evidence that Taycan fires are happening with any frequency. There is a lot of energy in EV batteries, and every manufacturer has fire incidents. If you check the recall websites, Taycans have had several recalls but not for fires (yet). Porsche is not trying to trick anyone; the Macan is their best selling product, and for the Chinese market they gotta have an EV version, so it is scheduled now, and will ship. Porsche is gaining market share, and I for one hope that they go IPO and get away from the mediocrity that is the VW group. Porsche has not benefited from the alliance particularly. Ferrari is better off away from Fiat; Porsche is a fanatic brand and should be on its own.

      @edwarddejong8025@edwarddejong8025 Жыл бұрын
    • I used to be a Ford only man. I was in sales and I bought a lot of cars over many years. Ford lost me as a fan because they treated their customers like idiots. When people lose faith in a company, it's hard to get them back. Sales 101: It can take weeks to win a customer. 5 minutes is enough to lose them.

      @peterinns5136@peterinns5136 Жыл бұрын
  • Good to know this about Porsche. I watched a rich guy do a video on his new model S plaid when it came out, but guess what car he drives every day, not the Tesla, the Porsche Taycan.

    @toguro1009@toguro1009 Жыл бұрын
    • He doesn’t want it to catch fire at his house. The Porsche battery is crap. LG Chem battery problem.

      @royphillips7644@royphillips7644 Жыл бұрын
  • Those LG prismatic cells are harder to produce relative to cylindrical cells (Munro 2022)

    @Jsmith32t@Jsmith32t Жыл бұрын
  • Now this, is great reporting. Thanks Sam.

    @ThoughtfulAl@ThoughtfulAl Жыл бұрын
  • If you paid a furtune for a "luxury" you not going to tell your neighbour you got cheated. You never hear Ferrari owner tellling bad things about their car though you can find bad thing if you start looking

    @cprelise@cprelise Жыл бұрын
  • Whats a cockatoo to do cobber..

    @skip181sg@skip181sg Жыл бұрын
  • WOO WOO WOO !!!

    @narayanalee@narayanalee Жыл бұрын
  • The British KZhead Mcmaster had a video of him traped in his Taycan due to the 12v battery fail. He really is not enjoying his EV experience.

    @andrewhickton3189@andrewhickton31895 ай бұрын
  • Higher voltages (holding supply power constant) reduces cell charging current requirements. Parallelising cell charging further reduces required cell current, although there are practical limits - related to cell and battery electrical design and charging infrastructure design - as to what can be achieved in this way. Lithium was the sensible choice for EV batteries at the outset for 21st century BEVs. But, I am pretty sure it will be seen as the wrong technology for the job in time. LFP, admittedly, effectively mitigates the worst negatives of Li-Ion.

    @chris27gea58@chris27gea58 Жыл бұрын
    • > Are you a Porsche electrical engineer?

      @carlwest859@carlwest859 Жыл бұрын
    • "Higher voltages (holding supply power constant) reduces cell charging current requirements." That is nonsense. You don't know what you are talking about. You are FOS. Edit: I have misinterpreted your statement and responded inappropriately. I'm sorry.

      @richardpark3054@richardpark3054 Жыл бұрын
    • No, in serial with lower current. The 800v means there is less management

      @Tom55data@Tom55data Жыл бұрын
    • @@Tom55data Yes, you are right. I expressed all of that very badly. Rather than annoying anyone with a do-over I would just say the obvous, higher voltage is the way forward for EV batteries. Whatever Porsche's problems at the moment they were right to go the high voltage route.

      @chris27gea58@chris27gea58 Жыл бұрын
    • @@richardpark3054 Power = Current * Voltage. You double the voltage and half the current to keep the same power level. That part was correct.

      @moestrei@moestrei Жыл бұрын
  • 7 Years ago I really thought that the Germans would knock it out the park where EV's were concerned based on German Engineering Reputation, Civic Pride and understanding of Science. Apparently, this didn't carry over to Electron Flow? I hate being so cavalier about the subject, the last EV I built was a 1/10 Scale RC Car.

    @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO@MTXSHO9732vV8SHO Жыл бұрын
  • . . . and the head of Porsche will be taking over from Herbert Deiss. . Good move, VW. . . Yeah, right. . .

    @dewiz9596@dewiz9596 Жыл бұрын
  • Parallel or Series?

    @pritambissonauth2181@pritambissonauth2181 Жыл бұрын
  • Seems like batteries are crucial for cars 🤔 Only Tesla and BYD can deliver at scale. Bye Kodak, bye Nokia, bye …

    @skinnymoonbob@skinnymoonbob Жыл бұрын
  • The sad story is; all EVs will suffer from such scandals.

    @grzegorzkapica7930@grzegorzkapica7930 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks, Sam - we rely on you for this sort of update! Porsche were late joining the EV hustle and that means possible poor understanding and possible corner cutting .... That's an expensive bbq!

    @kjh789az@kjh789az Жыл бұрын
    • It's an off the shelf "that will do" mentality.

      @rogerstarkey5390@rogerstarkey5390 Жыл бұрын
  • Li salts are a significant *natural* component of sea water, hard to think Li is toxic to the ocean.

    @Mrbfgray@Mrbfgray Жыл бұрын
  • 9:23 THIS is the simple truth !!!!!!

    @antypanag1@antypanag1 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video

    @prjackson7802@prjackson7802Ай бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @electricviking@electricvikingАй бұрын
  • You said the Felicity Ace sunk - but at 5:53 there is a photo of the burnt out ship in dock.

    @iainmrodgers9991@iainmrodgers9991 Жыл бұрын
    • The burnt-out ship in the dock at 5.53 is called "Norman Atlantic".

      @cedriclynch@cedriclynch Жыл бұрын
    • @@cedriclynch So it is! Why did he show it?

      @iainmrodgers9991@iainmrodgers9991 Жыл бұрын
  • .....and they promoted the head of Porsche.....

    @steveblomefield9513@steveblomefield9513 Жыл бұрын
  • Hyundai handled the LG battery recall best, GM dragged their feet before starting the recall but this Porsche handling is way worse.

    @jwhdesign@jwhdesign Жыл бұрын
    • Well, mine has still not had a new battery, and Hyundai wont tell me when to expect. This is in DK, Europe.

      @ekhaat@ekhaat Жыл бұрын
  • Lucky waiting list for taycan is long . OP for Nio instead half the price.

    @andrewho9777@andrewho9777 Жыл бұрын
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