"Why we might be alone" Public Lecture by Prof David Kipping

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Public Lecture from Nov 18th 2022 held at Columbia University.

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  • I know why I’m still alone, I keep watching videos like this instead going out 😂

    @ankh79@ankh79 Жыл бұрын
    • Lol ! 😂 that was a good one ☝️

      @jayshomer4191@jayshomer4191 Жыл бұрын
    • Society is overrated.

      @desdenova1@desdenova1 Жыл бұрын
    • Touch Grass

      @merxellus1456@merxellus1456 Жыл бұрын
    • So basically this lecture boil down to… we are the top of the hierarchy in the universe … a god ?

      @Genesis--me8ud@Genesis--me8ud Жыл бұрын
    • you are assuming that you wouldn't be alone if you went out...

      @douglasharley2440@douglasharley2440 Жыл бұрын
  • "Oracle. Are we alone in the universe?" she asked. "Yes," said the Oracle. "So there's no other life out there?" "There is. They're alone too."

    @Lord.Kiltridge@Lord.Kiltridge Жыл бұрын
    • very good

      @bonysminiatures3123@bonysminiatures3123 Жыл бұрын
    • I really like this. 👍Very solemn but very much true.

      @MeganVictoriaKearns@MeganVictoriaKearns Жыл бұрын
    • We all will die in future they will too

      @travelfun3812@travelfun3812 Жыл бұрын
    • I prefer to ask ALEXA.

      @pdcdesign9632@pdcdesign9632 Жыл бұрын
    • Bingo. We're not alone in the cosmos, just very far away from everybody else.

      @mysticone1798@mysticone1798 Жыл бұрын
  • Finally! Michael Crichton made similar points some years ago (it would take a fiction writer with a scientific mind to sniff out BS so keenly). The compounding of UNKNOWN variables still make them unknown. That popular scientific personalities talk about the Drake equation and other similar notions with such bias has seriously dumbed down the scientific dialogue in our society. We also talk about modeling in other areas in the same way, as if these equations are not speculative but somehow predictive. Kudos to Dr. Kipping for treating science like a process, not a corruptible worldview.

    @jasonfeulner5620@jasonfeulner56207 ай бұрын
    • Well Tbf two of his examples weren't scientists

      @A_Stereotypical_Guy@A_Stereotypical_Guy6 ай бұрын
    • His right about one thing ! Life has a short time ⏲️ to become intelligent life + get to age of modern technology + be able to have the Intelligent to want to leave they're planet. Intelligent life + life may only be around for a short period of time. Universe is a dangerous place.

      @FredHousehold@FredHousehold5 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@A_Stereotypical_Guy here is the definition of a scientist in its strictest sense: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences. "a research scientist" From this, we can surmise that a scientist need not have a PhD. A person can attain expert knowledge from independent research, without having gone to university and received a PhD. This would accurately describe Bill Nye, whom has devoted a massive portion of his adult life to the study of more than one field of science. He is respected by professors and the greater scientific community. So, a scientist he is, a qualified professor with a doctorate he is not.

      @Aquascape_Dreaming@Aquascape_Dreaming3 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely.

      @jamestcallahanphotographer@jamestcallahanphotographer2 ай бұрын
    • What he wrote in 2003: "More recently we have seen the rise of the so-called 'Rare Earth' theory which suggests that we may, in fact, be all alone. Again, there is no evidence either way." This is an ignorant person's skepticism. He doesn't know anything, so he doubts everything. Equally fallacious, he plays up correct theories that initially weren't accepted... until there was evidence, but he doesn't emphasize that requirement, as Sagan does at 21:30. So he scorns assertions of likelihood when there is evidence (he doesn't know of) and scorns the establishment for dismissing theories that he deems sufficiently backed by evidence when they aren't. I would be embarrassed to have written with such a tone of playground antagonism for that level of audience (see link), while also betraying an inconsistent standard of empirical support. Sure, Africa and South America "fit" together, but there also seems to be a face on Mars. Coincidences happen, so evidence needs to be accumulated--such as similar fossils below the time of continental separation and dissimilar species above. When you take pictures from a closer distance and different angles, the facial symmetry vanishes. This evidence takes time to amass. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Or as Feynman tried to teach with his license plate explanation, you can't use the hint that gives you the initial hunch to test that very hunch. Unlikely things happen all the time, so you need to collect _new_ data to see if it supports the hunch. The ubiquity of rare events is why hypothesis testing seems very conservatively structured to the uninitiated. Feynman's UFO discussion with a "layman" distinguishes whether talk of knowns or talk of likelihoods is scientific. Sure, we don't _know_ that we're not being visited by space aliens, but that doesn't make us unscientific to take sides and say it's highly unlikely. We _can_ talk about likelihood, given what we already know. That is in fact allowed, when there's data. Bayesian reasoning _is_ consistent with the scientific method. Or as Feynman put it, from what he knows about the world around him, reports of UFOs have more to do with the known, irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence than with the unknown, rational characteristics of extraterrestrial intelligence. As Christopher Hitchens would point out, one of the rules of oratory is that arguments presented without evidence can just as easily be dismissed without evidence. But that's not what's going on in this case. 100B galaxies of 100B stars cooking for 14B years is what Kipping is taking on, as is the Miller-Urey experiment. Slowly evidence is amassing in the astronomical and biochemical fields on both the ease and difficulty of abiogenesis and convergent evolution of technology-wielding intelligence, and the time to cook up the heavier elements that assist life. The trouble is when people make assertions that "we just don't know" as an excuse to dismiss talk of likelihoods, use of Bayesian reasoning, and evidence that already exists. To do so is just indulging in a false equivalency. And it's especially annoying when it's born of their own ignorance of evidence that already exists (an agnosticism of laziness). stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Crichton2003.pdf

      @cdorman11@cdorman11Ай бұрын
  • Let's be honest here: We're never going to accept that we're alone in the universe, we're going to keep looking for extra terrestrial life for as long as our species exists.

    @Aurochhunter@Aurochhunter7 ай бұрын
    • Why should we as humanity accept that we are alone when this assumption is impossible to verify? We can only falsify it when we find something that is 'alive' (can also be just some type of space bacteria or fungi).

      @highsoflyify@highsoflyify7 ай бұрын
    • While I agree with your statement, im of the firm belief that what we are "in" is a super-duper advanced holographic simulation (akin to Star Treks "holodeck", but obviously on a much more larger scale, and complexity). With that being said, it could very well be that all that space out there in the universe is a mere "illusion" and doesnt really exist [until/if such a time arises that we are able to physically reach it, then it could very well "pop" into existence, as in the phenomena of manifestation. The phenomena of manifestation is very real for me, insomuch that I witnessed it on at least 3 occasions during my lifetime. Some would say im a kook, while others think im merely misremembering things...and thats ok. I know in my heart the phenomena is real and exists. Lastly, yes it does make your mind do one huge "Whoa !!! WTF ?!?!?!"

      @Gizziiusa@Gizziiusa7 ай бұрын
    • @@highsoflyify Right, we’re so focused on finding _intelligent_ life, that we often forget that there could well be more primitive life out there.

      @Aurochhunter@Aurochhunter7 ай бұрын
    • @@Aurochhunter Let's look at our own planet. How many species did we have since the beginning of life on this earth? Billions of life forms and only one was able to use tools, books and fire. So it must be VERY unusual to develop this kind of 'intelligence'. Another factor is the possibility to destroy the own environment or own species with the right tools and weapons. So intelligent life will probably have very short life cycles compared to simple forms (which also have way lower demands to their environment than complex forms of life)

      @highsoflyify@highsoflyify7 ай бұрын
    • We're still finding new/undocumented species of life here on Earth. Just because we've not seen it, doesn't mean it does'nt exist, because we have plenty of examples proving that assumption wrong. It was once thought that life could not exist in extreme temperatures. Then we found a wide array if life forms thriving on deep sea hydrothermal vents, in temperatures ranging from 400f to 700f. We've also found life thriving in lakes underneath the Antarctic ice sheets.

      @SvendleBerries@SvendleBerries7 ай бұрын
  • Videos like this make me grateful to be alive in the time of the internet.

    @N_Ides@N_Ides Жыл бұрын
    • Lol. and doing a bank transfer worth an amount of 234.93

      @aaroncrosby2173@aaroncrosby2173 Жыл бұрын
    • This talk shows typical scientific lack of knowledge, focusing on the external. All truth of life is found within. The external is purely a temporary sensory reflection. Having "hope" that there's life out there is simply a lack of self knowledge, and encourages people to focus on the external, which again leads to a lack of self knowledge. I recommend listening to Barry Long, a legitimate spiritual teacher.

      @michaeltsung9741@michaeltsung9741 Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaeltsung9741 So what is the truth of life?

      @JohnyG29@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
    • @@JohnyG29 The truth of life is that I, the reader (not the writer, since the writer is a "you", not an "I") am life itself. I am all life, and all life is in me. However to realise, which is to make real, that truth, requires living the spiritual life, or the divine life. I recommend spiritual teacher Barry Long as a "real deal" teacher, which is a very rare thing, who can act as a guide until such time as you no longer require a teacher. Barry passed in 2003, but left behind a large body of work.

      @michaeltsung9741@michaeltsung9741 Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaeltsung9741 Ain't nobody got it figured out, and never will.

      @operoverlord@operoverlord Жыл бұрын
  • "Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” -Arthur C Clarke

    @droidnick@droidnick Жыл бұрын
    • Neither is terrifying. We should learn to deal with either possibility.

      @ungmd21@ungmd21 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ungmd21 yes, also the quote is overused lmao

      @timeless9499@timeless9499 Жыл бұрын
    • Not really, if we're alone we can seed the galaxy with no external competition. We have each other which is very sufficient

      @sagan2652@sagan2652 Жыл бұрын
    • We hv a lot of questions but answers evade us. We know of this one life. Humanity. Us. Whether there is life other than us in another form on another planet with again a different form to sustain that life form we do not know. If they exist they are invisible to us. Are we invisible to them. We are not alone. There are other dimensions in the Universe. What about the trillions of humanity in some other dimension who have finished with their experiences over here. They have moved on. May be they could help us with some answers.

      @mrnrnh8@mrnrnh8 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mrnrnh8 As Dr Kipping said to conclude, for now we really don't know. You cannot know right now that we are not alone

      @ungmd21@ungmd21 Жыл бұрын
  • Brian Cox actually changed course. Respect to Brian 💯

    @dougieh9676@dougieh96762 ай бұрын
    • wdym

      @SpacePonder@SpacePonderКүн бұрын
  • Dr. Kipping is a bracing gust of cool logic. 🦉

    @lincolnyaco5626@lincolnyaco56266 ай бұрын
    • Well said

      @williams.vincent4235@williams.vincent42354 ай бұрын
    • He's going to be blushing when life is eventually found on another planet/moon. The size of the universe means elements and environment will reoccur elsewhere.

      @d.s.5157@d.s.51572 ай бұрын
    • Most star systems have 2 or 3 stars and have the larger planets inward. We have never observed alien planets with moons as large as ours. The circumstances of our system and planet are exceedingly rare. Additionally, in 6 billion years, intelligent life has only evolved once--another rare circumstance. @@d.s.5157

      @lincolnyaco5626@lincolnyaco56262 ай бұрын
    • @@d.s.5157 He didn't say that life is not common. He said that we have no evidence to compute the probability of life. Discoveries of life would give us more data, but it wouldn't discredit anything said in this video.

      @prependedprepended6606@prependedprepended6606Ай бұрын
  • A true scientist is supposed to think this way. Great Lecture!

    @rockiesecho8518@rockiesecho8518 Жыл бұрын
    • Indeed but what is a TV Scientist supposed to say under pressure :)

      @paulseminara2483@paulseminara2483 Жыл бұрын
    • "Supposed to", the operative term here...he excises the inextricable from his pedestrian comments.

      @HerbyBell-zb7fp@HerbyBell-zb7fp Жыл бұрын
    • Well if scientists support every viewpoint imaginable, what good are they? I can get that opinion asking my neighbor. At a certain point, "experts" need to give you an expert opinion otherwise they are not experts.

      @twinwankel@twinwankel Жыл бұрын
    • True scientist also thinks of ways to look for life elsewhere, and so we are.

      @RWZiggy@RWZiggy Жыл бұрын
    • I agree with you completely. Very few scientists (e.g. Richard Feynman) have stressed the danger of expectancy bias and the importance of agnosticism in some specific cases. I am personally an agnostic when it comes to the existence of God and anthropogenic global warming (later conveniently renamed climate change). I am quite familiar with the Pupin Physics and Astronomy building where Dr. Kipping gives his lectures. I got my PhD degree from Columbia in 1978, and I wish I could be there 45 years later to meet Dr. Kipping in-person.

      @nicholass.7138@nicholass.7138 Жыл бұрын
  • We may be alone or we may be effectively alone. It is a distinction without a difference...

    @russhamilton3800@russhamilton3800 Жыл бұрын
    • We aren't alone. The aliens are here, RIGHT NOW. It's a verified fact. The most advanced military in the world verified the footage of non-human technology (see Tictac). This isn't a question anymore! No more "swamp gas" or "it was Venus". The aliens are REAL and HERE. Why do people keep acting like this is a question anymore? Stop living in denial!

      @MaxSMoke777@MaxSMoke777 Жыл бұрын
    • We may see light from other long dead civilizations or receive a message that is millions of light years old. That's probably the best we can hope for. We will almost certainly die with our bubble.

      @damo9961@damo9961 Жыл бұрын
  • Such an informative and well spoken individual. Thank You.

    @vincenthaddad@vincenthaddad7 ай бұрын
    • Aderall is bad

      @azorian888@azorian8885 ай бұрын
  • I really liked the way Professor Kip lectures/teaches. He has a genuine smile and its more like he's conversing with you about something so casual, except it's about the universe and scientific equations lol.

    @HonorGuard117@HonorGuard1177 ай бұрын
  • “I don’t know” is often the only honest thing a wise man can say.

    @JT96708@JT96708 Жыл бұрын
    • very true

      @ehought@ehought9 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant and also very graspable for any semi intelligent non scientist. Appreciate his agnosticism on the topic…He speaks very clearly and supports a specific point of view…but entirely without arrogance…Thank You for sharing this lecture

    @christopherwall444@christopherwall444 Жыл бұрын
    • At this point of our history the video title alone is sheer gaslighting if on purpose, and dumb ignorant narcissistic egocentristic naive arrogance already. not worth watching. Purpose of these type of statements today is to dumb down the masses deeper into ignorance to keep on controlling and profitting from them.

      @MilkoOfficialChannel@MilkoOfficialChannel Жыл бұрын
    • @@MilkoOfficialChannel Did you watch it? If you did, why are you using an emotional statement?

      @johannaledesma5301@johannaledesma5301 Жыл бұрын
    • simple = in this universe , there is no any life form! maybe in another universe ( if it exist )

      @M4R10_@M4R10_ Жыл бұрын
    • You opinion of it about being “x” to “z” is a hypothesis and would need to be tested.

      @ThisThing435@ThisThing435 Жыл бұрын
    • Umm,​ _what_ , @@M4R10_?

      @assininecomment1630@assininecomment163010 ай бұрын
  • It’s not just that space is vast, but also that time is vast. Perhaps there was once a civilization in our galaxy that sent out radio signals hoping to find other life, but it ceased to exist billions of years before humans discovered how to detect those signals.

    @MrTeff999@MrTeff9998 ай бұрын
    • This has been exactly my point for decades and it rarely gets discussed. The chances of another civilisation existing in our blink of an eye in time is infinitesimally small, let alone the narrow slice of time we have been aware of the concept.

      @HowardKlein1958@HowardKlein19588 ай бұрын
    • ​@@HowardKlein1958 Yes. It is a very well-discussed and known topic. Remember that time and space are the same thing, therefore when talking about the vastness of space you're also talking about the vastness of time.

      @franciscorojas8088@franciscorojas80887 ай бұрын
    • we thought we had 5 billion years, now it turns out only 250 million years - panagea

      @badvideo169@badvideo1697 ай бұрын
    • This is based on the rudimentary understanding of physics, time, space, and reality of the psychotic apes making these proclamations.

      @robnorwood3591@robnorwood35917 ай бұрын
    • We would find evidence of their existence in geology

      @claspuse3167@claspuse31676 ай бұрын
  • Key word to take in’WE have no IDEA’ this probably the most accurate statement in human existence.

    @homerfutol2864@homerfutol28649 ай бұрын
    • Why did he then titled the video we might be alone if we don't know?

      @MarkusAvrelius@MarkusAvrelius8 ай бұрын
    • @@MarkusAvrelius well because obivously, we cant see anybody else around so why would we not be alone xd

      @NoOne4k@NoOne4k8 ай бұрын
    • ​@@NoOne4kBecause space, even relatively nearby space, is enormous and beyond imagination. The Rare Earth Hypothesis and the Fermi Paradox are riddled with problems, not the least being circular logic. To assume that we're alone because our extremely small and limited exploration for life in the cosmos hasn't turned up anything is beyond ridiculous. It would be like taking a thimble full of ocean water and declaring there's no life in the oceans.

      @avenuePad@avenuePad7 ай бұрын
    • That would be a much more accurate title, but I think it's to counter the conventional wisdom that there must be tons of life in the universe.@@MarkusAvrelius

      @Turnoutburndown@Turnoutburndown7 ай бұрын
    • @@Turnoutburndown The title is "Why we _might_ be alone" not "We _are_ alone." I think that the title is accurate.

      @BenoHourglass@BenoHourglass6 ай бұрын
  • Somehow I think his arguments, while being eloquently expressed, are based on as many assumptions as many other theories.

    @artharrison9586@artharrison9586 Жыл бұрын
    • No, he is advocating for saying “we don’t know” instead of making assumptions, because the probabilities are not known. He argues that it is unscientific to take things on faith. I agree.

      @GH-oi2jf@GH-oi2jf Жыл бұрын
    • Uh he addresses that uncertainty in many of his videos, u should check ‘em out!

      @raybo780@raybo78011 ай бұрын
    • I absolutely agree

      @banon7853@banon78537 ай бұрын
    • This is an incredibly vague and obtuse comment. His main argument is that we don't know, and then he subsequently presents a number of examples debunking the status quo, that there 'must be a universe teeming with life'. Maybe you should elaborate.

      @Arthur-nr5ci@Arthur-nr5ci28 күн бұрын
  • This is a tremendous lecture. Thank you. I watched it with my visiting alien friend. He thought the arguments very good indeed as well. ;)

    @kevinu.k.7042@kevinu.k.7042 Жыл бұрын
    • its basic stuff found in the first paragraphs of the first chapter of any decent analysis on the prospects of alien life; and a distraction from the correct best answer we currently have. Astronomers are good at pointing telescopes at stars and looking at spectrographs, but typically bad at logical analysis / reasoning on the prospects of alien civilization. The first law of reasoning for alien civilization is never trust an astronomer's analysis, they have all sorts of screwed up bias and archaic modes of thinking. Astronomers are among the last people to be consulted this on matter. Ok onto the elephant in the room, the biggest myth of our times, which the naive astronomer didn't address, and has never objectively thought about it in his life and never will: 1. The idea that alien civilization would blast out radio communication, loud and clear, hence our satellite dishes should be jammed with alien radio transmissions. This myth was created back in the early days of radio communication around the 1920s when most transmissions were sent uncoded. Thinkers at the time assumed radio comm would remain that way practically forever. Today most radio comm is encoded so that it resembles random noise; but it is digital as apposed to analogue, which distinguishes it from natural background noise. However it is easy to convert a digital radio stream into an analogue stream then add a few pseudo noise fx to make it completely indistinguishable from natural background noise, except for those with the encryption keys. This is how aliens communicate. 2. The myth that we can detect the tiniest signals from the other side of the universe. Actually, our best technology ( Nasa Deep Space Network ) can detect synthetic information from a synthetic source from about at maximum 180AU or one light-day away; it is 6 orders of magnitude smaller than the detection sensitivity we'd need to evesdrop info from the nearest star system. In case you haven't noticed, we can barely detect exo planets directly. If a whole exo planet can't generate enough waves to be detected by our best scopes, its going to be hard to detect an artificial source unless its pointed directly at us, and for us. This leads us onto 3. The idea of convenience that aliens want to communicate with us. In technology they are millions or billions of years ahead of us. It would be like us trying to comm with bacteria in the dirt. What is the purpose? Just to poke the bacteria and do experiments on it. Any discussion about alien civ should address these points. The astronomer's lecture was conspicuously lacking, like a half man lacking half his body and head.

      @plasmaastronaut@plasmaastronaut Жыл бұрын
    • 4. The myth that inter stellar aliens comm using spherical wave broadcasts, this one's again from the 1920s. For interstellar space it is more sensible to use rasers ( radio equivalent of laser ) to aim a coherent beam at a target star system. (a) less power useage, (b) much better stealth; no other star system would detect the signal. The chance that we'd sit between 2 alien star systems and be able to intercept their signals is extremely low, and in these cases, aliens can simply divert signals around the solar system. That we might postcept signals after they pass their target star can be stopped by alien engineering, they can adjust their rasers to difuse enough to be too weak to detect past the target star system and also the target star system can send out an neutralizing wave signal to reduce the signal beyound the receiver. Show me the astronomer lecture that mentions these points. protip: u can't because astronomers are dumb.

      @plasmaastronaut@plasmaastronaut Жыл бұрын
    • @Jota Efe that astronomer got a big applause, 354K views, 11k likes, and 3447 praising comments in 3 weeks for "neither prooving nor disproving anything." Glad that we give credit where its due.

      @jamesgrist1101@jamesgrist1101 Жыл бұрын
    • @@plasmaastronaut Aho.

      @HerbyBell-zb7fp@HerbyBell-zb7fp Жыл бұрын
    • @@plasmaastronaut KZhead Ph.D. in the room.

      @brianbarrett192@brianbarrett192 Жыл бұрын
  • incredible lecture, professor kipping. a breath of fresh air after hearing so many scientists conclude there has to be life in the universe other than us.

    @tasos1112@tasos11128 ай бұрын
    • Fresh air? Are you serious? He brings nothing new to the table and spends 25 min telling us what we already know. Of course nobody knows for certain and he criticized deGrasse Tyson as if his comments on entertainment tv were an actual scientific journal. Those who cant do science are quick criticize the ones who do. I am sure Tyson knows the difference between mathematical certainty and personal beliefs. If he cant understand that he was expressing his beliefs and that he was not presenting to actual scientific audience then he needs to self check and rethink his career.

      @davidvega1097@davidvega10978 ай бұрын
    • @@davidvega1097 Kipping was being scientific. Tyson forgot he is a "physicist" and was just speaking his mind, which might also amount to nonsense. Tyson should have stuck to the actual science. A few years ago, a team of scientists at The University of Oxford arrived at the same conclusion as Kipping did using Bayesian statistics--that we might very well be alone in the universe.

      @glennwoodruff2398@glennwoodruff23988 ай бұрын
    • I sure agree!

      @MaloPiloto@MaloPiloto8 ай бұрын
    • After reading The Dark Forest I have no hurry for us to be found, but I believe that there are others, is a statistic posibility too big

      @patytrico@patytrico8 ай бұрын
    • @@glennwoodruff2398 he was using what you call no sense to make his conclusion appear valid and make himself look smart. Now just because your a physicists does not mean you can’t be an expert in other sciences. Our brains don’t stop working if it is a subject outside our original study area. Besides this guy and all those statistics came to a whopping conclusion that we just don't know. I understand this as an actual exercise in logic but for this guy to spend 25 min is ridiculous. Now for anyone to publish this conclusion is just plain moronic. These people cant come up with their own things and they take simple things and blow them up just to make them sound smarter than he is. Now Tyson I am certain he know that his claims are not scientific or mathematically valid (I have no doubt he can do the math). Everyone with half a brain knows we just don’t know for sure as of today. Also, speculating on things that may one day be proven otherwise has lead to the creation of wonderful discoveries and inventions. They make me feel like publishing a scientific paper to prove if there is life after death.

      @davidvega1097@davidvega10978 ай бұрын
  • Biologists who study early life are probably the people you would want to include in this discussion. While even they don't _know_ how life first began, they know enough to at least give some interesting and illuminating context.

    @aarondavis8943@aarondavis89438 ай бұрын
    • yes the fact that in a planet where there ara conditions to life to arise, had happen (as far as we know) only one time shows its not as common as we tend to think .

      @matiasfernandez5635@matiasfernandez56357 ай бұрын
    • I *highly* recommend looking into Dr. James Tour and his incredible insight into the *chemistry* of the origin of life.

      @dovonovich@dovonovich7 ай бұрын
    • @@matiasfernandez5635 We do not know that it only happened once. It could be happening a billion times a day, and we probably wouldn't know it.

      @eventhisidistaken@eventhisidistaken7 ай бұрын
    • It's also somewhat interesting to remember that often times when we talk about how life can begin somewhere, we forget life could look a lot different in different circumstances. It doesn't necessarily have to start on a planet like ours, though obviously we don't have any examples of life like that.

      @TimoRutanen@TimoRutanen7 ай бұрын
    • @@eventhisidistaken If it had happend a billion times all together let alone in a day I would think that life on earth would have been more varied then it is. I was under the impression that they claim that everything is related. That would at least mean it was only successful once and may there fore have only started once. To my knowledge the scientist know quite well what life is made out of but I don't believe they have actually ever managed to actually start new life without a cell of excisting life.

      @leonhardtkristensen4093@leonhardtkristensen40936 ай бұрын
  • The fact that intelligent life only formed shortly before Earth becomes uninhabitable is really interesting. I'd never thought of it that way.

    @frasercain@frasercain Жыл бұрын
    • The planet gets uninhabitable because we ruin it. Without humans the planet stays habitable for 500 million years

      @RickTheClipper@RickTheClipper Жыл бұрын
    • The conditions for life that our planet enjoys are so many and so particular, makes you think about how the universe works: it doesn't repeat itself. It is us who give the same label to different things. It would be awesome to find intelligent life somewhere else, but I really don't have any expectations. Just life, not intelligent life, I think it is easier to expect. Or, intelligence without life: is that possible?

      @joseluisalcantarasanchez269@joseluisalcantarasanchez269 Жыл бұрын
    • We don't even know if intelligent life is a surefire products of evolution anyway, life doesn't need to be intelligent like us to survive, dumb life is acceptable as long as they survive and that's all evolution "care about"

      @Napoleonic_S@Napoleonic_S Жыл бұрын
    • It's not becoming uninhabitable though.

      @uku4171@uku4171 Жыл бұрын
    • @@uku4171 not currently, but once the sun starts to change in another billion years, it will almost overnight

      @seraeirian2@seraeirian2 Жыл бұрын
  • And as Arthur C. Clark once famously said "either we are alone in the universe or we are not, and either thought is equally terrifying."

    @paulmurphy8993@paulmurphy8993 Жыл бұрын
    • Why?

      @Jan96106@Jan96106 Жыл бұрын
    • There’s another possibility: multiverses

      @insomx@insomx Жыл бұрын
    • Favorite German convertible - that is awesome! May I use it in conversation? :)

      @ronjon7942@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
    • @@insomxWe're talking about lifeforms , NOT EXISTENCE.

      @pdcdesign9632@pdcdesign9632 Жыл бұрын
    • He said a lot of things. Almost nothing he said was anything more than fiction.

      @NihongoGuy@NihongoGuy Жыл бұрын
  • Great lecture. Dr. Kipping is completely correct. I personally want there to be a Star Trek like universe out there just waiting for us to discover it, but what we've currently observed shows no evidence of that. You can get into as many thought experiments using statistics as you want, but at the end of the day we just don't know. Those thought experiments are important, don't get me wrong, but they prove nothing. This might not be very exciting, but this time we live in is very important. As Obi Wan said in Star Wars, we have "taken your first step into a larger world." Keep learning everyone!

    @lukew1383@lukew13837 ай бұрын
    • You literally have no idea what you're talking about and clearly have done zero investigation. But pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you're smart. 🤓

      @RepublicConstitution@RepublicConstitution7 ай бұрын
  • This is a subject that I've considered for some time. One of the aspects of being in space that rarely gets talked about is that humans begin to deteriorate as soon as they go into space and may well be that why we never see aliens because they are as tied to their planet just like us. And then again there are the impossible distances involved.

    @steveclapper5424@steveclapper54247 ай бұрын
    • dont be stupid, that like saying humans cant breath on water.. therefor we arent meant to be in the swimming pool. Have you seen how fast some of these ufo travel? and the amount of ufo footages alone, already suggest otherwise. I think the probability that we are alone is NIL. its bloody stupid to thikn otherwise ,,,data shows that in our galaxy alone, theres about 300 million potentially habitable planet. Thats just our galaxy. Theres about 2 trillion galaxy.... its just seem so stupid to think were alone otherwise. Its beyond DUMB

      @keithvlogs1@keithvlogs16 ай бұрын
    • > tied to their planet just like us probably by design, if the universe is infinite there is nothing unique, I don't buy the argument of the video, there is nothing special here.

      @fmelo@fmelo4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@fmeloThere's a lot special here. Kipping does a great job of debunking status quo arguments publicly paraded from mainstream/celebrity scientists or dumb podcasters *Rogan, who love presenting life like it's such a sure thing but ultimately have no more evidence for it than statistical speculation.

      @Arthur-nr5ci@Arthur-nr5ci28 күн бұрын
  • 🥺 This is the kind of thinking that causes us to suddenly make new discoveries. Great idea! 💡

    @phil20_20@phil20_20 Жыл бұрын
  • I took a long time for life to become multi cellular, and it took a long time for multi cellular life to become intelligent enough to create technologies and it took a long time for technological life to develop the abilities we have as modern humans. What we have no clue about is how long we can persist after we have developed the ability to wipe ourselves out. Sixty years so far, and counting.

    @jacksawild@jacksawild9 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant arguments in opposition to many highly-visible scientists who claim we can't be alone simply and solely because the universe is so vast.

    @CurtZilbersher@CurtZilbersher5 ай бұрын
    • The numbers, however, are very compelling for a reasoned argument, based on statistics, for the likelihood of life elsewhere beyond the Earth or our system. I agree though that there's as yet, no evidence for this logical inference. Emphatically, I'm not talking about emotional 'belief', but rather logical inference.

      @samr.england613@samr.england6135 ай бұрын
  • This guys knows his stuff for sure. Impressive.

    @panda4498@panda44987 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic, thanks for posting this David! Loved watching it.

    @RachaelLines@RachaelLines Жыл бұрын
  • I find this person to be VERY logical in his thinking ! And I watch his channel all the time . I do not ALWAYS agree with his deduction, but I do MOST of the time ! DML.

    @Mike-iv3hy@Mike-iv3hy11 ай бұрын
  • Wow, such a brilliant lecture! Thank you for letting us participate!

    @Uwwerasch@Uwwerasch7 ай бұрын
    • Except he is wrong.UFO's and aliens are real.

      @snave59@snave597 ай бұрын
  • “We might be alone”. Why would anyone think we are alone?! What we have sampled of the universe is equivalent to taking a cup, dipping it in the ocean, looking at what’s inside the cup and conclude “yep, no life in the ocean”

    @ICUDR@ICUDR7 ай бұрын
    • Bad analogy, if you were to take a cup from the ocean you would discover microplastics among other things that would suggest that there is life however you may question its intelligence.

      @Smokingdabsandgaming@Smokingdabsandgaming7 ай бұрын
    • You literally just watched a video on how one could think we are alone, with very probable arguments.

      @jonathonmoreau8075@jonathonmoreau8075Ай бұрын
  • Finally a sane approach to this question. Thanks so much. I am not alone.

    @pretzelogic2689@pretzelogic2689 Жыл бұрын
    • I see what you did there :) Now you're definitely not alone :) Incidentally, Kipping is probably among the most brilliant astronomers of our generation, in my very humble view. His papers are remarkably creative. I highly recommend to read them if you're into these things. They should be readable for most people with some basic physics/astronomy background.

      @yelbirkazhykarim3518@yelbirkazhykarim3518 Жыл бұрын
    • Fr man, so happy I found this video! I'm not willing to die on a hill for us being alone but it's always been strange to me how one sided this conversation is. Every other physicist/scientist talks about outside intelligent life as some sort inevitability so it's nice to finally hear a different perspective.

      @Retotion@Retotion Жыл бұрын
    • @@Retotion What you wise guys overlook is the fact that once we find even the tiniest microbe on Mars, or a moon of Jupiter and Saturn, the whole lecture was nothing more than a waste of oxygen. And with each passing day, we get closer to the cause. Especially now that we're going to start looking at the atmospheres of extrasolar planets with the help of the James Webb Telescope. As soon as we can prove chlorophyll for the first time, the lecture is waste paper again. The deniers of the "plenty of life" theory must refute any evidence. The others only have to successfully complete the proof once...

      @melchiorvonsternberg844@melchiorvonsternberg844 Жыл бұрын
    • Don't count on it. In a purely materialist cosmos, the chances of true solipsism becomes significant. The entire universe may exist only in your own mind. But that case only you would actually exist and the rest of us would be figures of your imagination. I think I need another beer.

      @thebiguglyredneck@thebiguglyredneck Жыл бұрын
    • @Wikileads No, not necessarily. As Professor Kipping said, we simply don't know, so the possibility that alien civilizations exist is as legitimate as the position that we're alone. But when scientists start proclaiming the galaxy is teeming with alien civilizations when there is zero proof of this, and insult people as arrogant or whatnot for not believing a position for which there is zero proof, then this is anti-scientific behaviour. Not the same as insanity but not appropriate either. I can understand what op meant by finally a sane response. Professor Kipping's analysis is a rare instance of evidence based logic and thoughtful even-handed balance amid a massive myriad of emotional reactions. The scientists who let their wishful thinking propel them to enthusiastically premature conclusion arejust one part of this. Think of all the craziness in non-scientific circles, from cults to people brainwashed into believing Democrats are secretly alien lizards under fake human skin.

      @michellesheaff3779@michellesheaff3779 Жыл бұрын
  • We live in such an exciting time having access to all of this info etc even back 40 yrs ago so much of this wasn't availiable! Keeping an open mind to everything is so important!

    @danmacneil1895@danmacneil1895 Жыл бұрын
    • Doesn't matter how much we know today because we won't be here someday soon

      @travelfun3812@travelfun3812 Жыл бұрын
    • @@travelfun3812 Don't know that for sure. Even with Biden in the White House, we can't be sure.

      @jazz4asahel@jazz4asahel Жыл бұрын
    • @@jazz4asahel Don't worry! Biden is not an obstacle when it comes to disclosure I think.

      @jutjubow@jutjubow Жыл бұрын
    • @@jutjubow Disclose is this: we're alone, because any intelligence out there would want to stay away from us.

      @jazz4asahel@jazz4asahel Жыл бұрын
  • Im a statistician. Always felt we could be alone. I believe the absence of direct evidence makes it more likely that Fl is indeed smaller than the number of stars and we are alone. Note that statistics doesnt apply to whether we are alone. We either are or are not. The statistics only apply to our knowledge of it. Its like the odds of the next card in a deck being a heart. It either is or is not. Once the deck was shuffled, the answer is fixed, only our knowledge of it is pseudo random.

    @sailorkane7489@sailorkane74897 ай бұрын
    • There is plenty of direct evidence. Theres a lot of circumstantial evidence that shows we are not along, and keep in mind that we can convict people on circumstantial evidence for murder. Yeah sure if you ignore that, then yes were alone.

      @Alex-pb1iy@Alex-pb1iy7 ай бұрын
    • @@Alex-pb1iy Most of the "direct"evidence is mostly by people with psychological problems or the need for attention. Also, the chances of someone being guilty on circumstancial evidence, whether this is right or wrong, is still by far more likely for the crime to have happened than someone claiming to have evidence for an extra terrerestrial. Extaordinary claims really do require extraordinary evidence.

      @childfreesingleandatheist8899@childfreesingleandatheist88997 ай бұрын
    • Don't forget 'time'. Most of the starlight we see left it's source 1000s of years ago. So how would we know.

      @gertsy2000@gertsy20007 ай бұрын
    • @@Alex-pb1iyYeah there’s ton of evidence out there somewhere in the ether. We just have to be positive and believe just because.

      @migmigjohnson9351@migmigjohnson93517 ай бұрын
    • After we find intelligent life we might likely begin asking, "So just the two of us then? Are we alone, just the two of us?" 🤣

      @RoyArrowood@RoyArrowood7 ай бұрын
  • We are not alone in the Universe, but there is no way we will ever meet. Any civilization will get to a point of self destruction.

    @Traitorman.14.3@Traitorman.14.38 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the work you are doing professor Kipping. I would have loved working in your team. Our world needs more minds like yours to profess reason and expand our knowledge. ❤

    @trainyoumust@trainyoumust Жыл бұрын
  • Your videos always make me think, I love to watch them late at night. This video changed my mind, and I appreciate it.

    @MattJoyce01@MattJoyce01 Жыл бұрын
  • This is the most reasonable and realistic approach to this question.

    @faulypi@faulypi17 күн бұрын
  • "We *might* be alone". Thanks dude, this was the one thing I already knew with 100% certainty before watching the whole lecture.

    @simonsaysno@simonsaysno6 ай бұрын
    • Then you know very little!

      @GG-hu9dn@GG-hu9dn6 ай бұрын
    • @@GG-hu9dn Given the size of the universe and, therefore, the amount of knowledge there is to know, every human - including you - knows very little. Given the nature of your comments, YOU are nowhere near as intelligent as you believe yourself to be.

      @user-cx7kg6ok9b@user-cx7kg6ok9b6 ай бұрын
    • @user-cx7kg6ok9b Clearly, you judge others by your standards ?! Well...I'm not you or like you - and evidently your "cage has been rattled" ?! But then ..who really cares what you think?! :-))

      @GG-hu9dn@GG-hu9dn6 ай бұрын
    • We might be alone, there is the key, MIGHT? Then what is flying around earth's airspace. Something is observing our military exercises. Something is interested in our nukes. Your only about 70-80 years behind, look deeper! AND if your religious? God put other creatures out in his universe.

      @harrygearhart4520@harrygearhart45204 ай бұрын
  • And thanks, Professor. Solid reasoning explained in straight forward fashion. You're a terrific teacher.

    @thebiguglyredneck@thebiguglyredneck Жыл бұрын
  • A great talk and a point that needed to be made. Thanks to Cool Worlds, I feel comfortable in being agnostic about the possibilities for life, as you said. I want to believe, but someone needs to give me a good reason!

    @jamesgeary4294@jamesgeary4294 Жыл бұрын
    • Once the entire Earth had no life whatsoever. No one knows how or why life began. If it happened before it can happen again.

      @zdcyclops1lickley190@zdcyclops1lickley190 Жыл бұрын
    • Without watching, why are we alone?

      @jamescollier3@jamescollier3 Жыл бұрын
    • @@zdcyclops1lickley190 but that's exactly the reasoning this video argues against? Just because it happened here doesn't mean life has happened elsewhere, let alone that it's ubiquitous or even common. As David Kipping said, the right answer is we don't know.

      @jamesgeary4294@jamesgeary4294 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamesgeary4294 just because life happened here doesnt mean it couldnt happen somewhere. Same hollow argument on your hollow argument

      @dzenacs2011@dzenacs2011 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamesgeary4294 This is what I'm struggling with. My take is all parties are saying "I think"...meaning "we don't know". One person's assumptions (the Fl value) are really no better than someone else's. Given that, there has been a progression of 'likelihood' since the first images from hubble. Q1: Are galaxies rare? A: Seems not. Appears there are trillions (thx Hubble). Q2: There are a lot of stars, are there planets with them? A: Yes. Actually a lot. Around 10 or so planets is fairly common. Q3: Are there a lot of planets in the habitable zone? A: yes. Seems this is also common. We see the transits. Q4: Of these planets in the habitable zone, do they also have similar characteristics to Earth? A: We don't know. But this is what JWT should help with (measuring VRE - vegetation red edge). This video, was all about this 4th question. What's the likelihood that these other planets are indeed similar to Earth? What even constitutes similarity?

      @virtualbown@virtualbown Жыл бұрын
  • We are the proof there is life in the universe.

    @Rocket9944@Rocket9944Ай бұрын
    • ??? No one is disputing that!

      @prependedprepended6606@prependedprepended6606Ай бұрын
    • @@prependedprepended6606 , if there's life on this planet there's life on other planets throughout the Universe. They're now estimating there could be up to 2 trillion galaxies.

      @Rocket9944@Rocket9944Ай бұрын
    • @@Rocket9944-- We know there are a lot of galaxies. We know nothing of the probabilities of: 1. life originating; 2. life evolving into intelligent forms capable of mastering technology; 3. advanced civilizations lasting a long time.

      @GH-oi2jf@GH-oi2jf26 күн бұрын
    • @@GH-oi2jf , 2 trillion galaxies, enough said.

      @Rocket9944@Rocket994426 күн бұрын
  • We are not alone ... we live on an amazing earth along with 8 billion people with family and friends and teeming with amazing natural wonders and life found nowhere else in the solar system.

    @kenelizabethwhitfield7078@kenelizabethwhitfield707823 күн бұрын
  • Thank your for this lecture, Dr. Kipping! You and your family have a great Christmas and New Year!!

    @emzywillrich7243@emzywillrich7243 Жыл бұрын
    • This talk shows typical scientific lack of knowledge, focusing on the external. All truth of life is found within. The external is purely a temporary sensory reflection. Having "hope" that there's life out there is simply a lack of self knowledge, and encourages people to focus on the external, which again leads to a lack of self knowledge. I recommend listening to Barry Long, a legitimate spiritual teacher.

      @michaeltsung9741@michaeltsung9741 Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaeltsung9741 Sounds like pseudoscientific nonsense to me. A brief search of Barry Long suggest the same. That's not to say that internal spiritual exploration isn't beneficial or valid. It simply falls outside the realm of logic, and thus is particularly susceptible to charlatans and grifters. It's easy to create "knowledge" when it's not falsifiable or subject to empirical verification.

      @bumptiousbuffoon7824@bumptiousbuffoon7824 Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaeltsung9741 All truth is found in Christ, not within.

      @florida8953@florida8953 Жыл бұрын
    • @@florida8953 true ) 🙏✝️

      @robmarshall956@robmarshall956 Жыл бұрын
  • FINALLY someone speaking straight about this subject. Thank you.

    @andregomesdasilva@andregomesdasilva Жыл бұрын
    • It's nonsense is what it is

      @matthewviramontes3131@matthewviramontes3131 Жыл бұрын
    • So one of his major arguments is because we don't know exactly how many planets there are we can't make a positive claim that there is life anywhere but earth. What a trash argument in fact all you have to do is look up to see that everything in the universe is repeated constantly over and over and nothing is special and contained to any one area. Besides that you don't have to look any further than our own existence for evidence that alien life exist. In an endless amount of space what happens once will happen over and over. Everything in the universe is repeatable.

      @jimwhittaker4137@jimwhittaker4137 Жыл бұрын
    • @@matthewviramontes3131 yeah. it's distance and time to the nearest alien. Calculate the time it would take to the nearest alien, in the drake equation

      @jamescollier3@jamescollier3 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, his whole take on the Copernican argument is just wrong, and it's surprising that he didn't really think it through. While it is natural to expect that a civilization would show a survivor's bias, that, by itself, doesn't invalidate the argument. You could still imagine what an external observer of the Universe would think if they found us in such a big Universe. They would still update their probability, based on that observation, and conclude that the probability that there's EXACTLY one civilization is much lower than there being at least a few. This is also precisely what you'd think if you spotted a bacterium in an aquarium. It's absolutely irrelevant to your conclusion what that bacterium thinks.

      @plafar7887@plafar7887 Жыл бұрын
    • @@plafar7887 Totally agree Plafar.

      @Koozje@Koozje Жыл бұрын
  • wow, excellent logic. wish we could all think this way about all things.

    @stevengross4113@stevengross41138 ай бұрын
  • It is refreshing to see a science teacher so well rooted in reality!

    @Parasmunt@Parasmunt6 ай бұрын
  • excellent presentation. i love my brain’s reaction to that time limit “we don’t have much time! only a billion years. need to spread elsewhere!” if we can survive another 10,000 years we’ll be doing well 😂

    @Humungojerry@Humungojerry Жыл бұрын
    • We have already survived for hundreds of thousands of years as Homo Sapiens.

      @Magnus_Loov@Magnus_Loov11 ай бұрын
    • Я, американец, тебе завидую, потому что в Америке люди в средне живут по 800 лет. И этому есть серьёзное доказательство, которое предоставляет ваша судебная система. Вашим некоторым маньякам суд даёт наказание по 500 лет, и даже по 700 лет, а это значит у всех американцев хорошее здоровье. И к маньякам в Америке очень хорошо относятся. После того, как эти нехорощие люди отсидят 300 лет, их за хорошее поведение могут досрочно освободить. Значит, американец, у вас имеется элексир бессмертия и вы эту велиеую тайну скрываете от международной общественности.

      @tolyamochin4066@tolyamochin40668 ай бұрын
    • @@tolyamochin4066 что

      @Humungojerry@Humungojerry8 ай бұрын
  • Given distances,we might as well be alone, even if we aren't.

    @judychurley6623@judychurley662311 ай бұрын
  • This would have really impressed me when I was in my early teens.

    @oldbatwit5102@oldbatwit51027 ай бұрын
    • im 14 and this is deep

      @charwest5892@charwest58927 ай бұрын
    • @@charwest5892 I believe you.

      @oldbatwit5102@oldbatwit51027 ай бұрын
    • I’m 63 and it’s deep

      @stormythelowcountrykitty7147@stormythelowcountrykitty71477 ай бұрын
    • I'm 76 and it is interesting but utterly irrelevant to everything real or pertains to nothing.

      @maxotaurus5140@maxotaurus51406 ай бұрын
  • Great crystallization of the back and forth on this almost purely academic discussion. I have been on his side and he addresses the exact arguments and blowback I get for not just accepting the probability of life in the universe. I would add to his arguments that the process of evolution does not favor stable conditions for the formation of advanced and intelligent life but instead, our specific planetary history which makes survival hard has created advanced in complex life forms.

    @anjaloo5353@anjaloo53532 ай бұрын
    • without the asteroid impact at the right time with the correct destruction power ( not too weak; not too much,) Dinosaurs would still be here.and we wouldn't - no intelligent life: according to the story of evolution. the dinos ruled the Earth for 100 million years until that asteroid hit. but I prefer a different theory: there was a creator, a designer. there was no "coincidence of a first self-created microbe" which is our ancestor....... And I don't know who created the creator, dear Mr. Richard Dawkins. but that's ok, we don't even know who created the pyramids and and how they did it. how would I know who created God? I don't like evolution for many reasons, firstly because it is implausible and another reason is that it is based on existing organic life. it takes a first self-created microbe for the false theory of evolution to start..Jesus Christ. why don't people look at here what we know: The Earth is a miracle, in every single aspect. a unique gem. just open your eyes. a sensitive system. a tiny little rock which means everything to us, but for the rest of the universe, it doesn't matter. there are total solar eclipses with a visible corona, we live exactly in the right time window so we can observe these. which is one miracle. every blade of grass is one miracle. we don't even know what life is besides reproducing a system of extreme complexity with < 100,000 processes every second and with a metabolism. that is what we observe, but it is NOT what describes what life is. it is a miracle. that's why we can't create a simple seed which is needed for a plant to grow. we have no clue. but we can choose what we believe,

      @keep_walking_on_grass@keep_walking_on_grass2 ай бұрын
  • Alone can mean either "the only" or it can mean "forever out of contact". It's easier to accept the latter than the former...

    @ivansdaddy@ivansdaddy Жыл бұрын
    • Not alone for sure ,all this engineering for nothing? We have no idea what’s beyond discernible horizon, not seeing don’t change reality.

      @obiecanobie919@obiecanobie919 Жыл бұрын
    • I don't get why so many people are so obsessed with whether there is life elsewhere in the universe-which we are highly unlikely to find or interact with (though I'm not denying the watershed nature of either circumstance)-while humans demonstrate daily that they don't value other human life, nor all other life on this pale blue dot that we all occupy-and likely all will die upon, as will our very species, barring a sea change in how we behave towards each other, other life here, and the planet itself.

      @stevesoldwedel@stevesoldwedel Жыл бұрын
    • @@obiecanobie919 What engineering?

      @paulheinrichdietrich9518@paulheinrichdietrich9518 Жыл бұрын
    • @Obie Canobie did you even watch the video you are commenting on??

      @armoredduck@armoredduck Жыл бұрын
    • Some of this from these scientists is deliberate disinformation

      @Pelgram@Pelgram Жыл бұрын
  • Mr. Kipping, you have quickly become one of my favorite science educators. Looking forward to your future content with great excitement. I am an electrical engineer that absolutely loves physics and science.

    @gtssage@gtssage Жыл бұрын
    • 24th like

      @mihailmilev9909@mihailmilev99099 ай бұрын
    • True this is great

      @mihailmilev9909@mihailmilev99099 ай бұрын
    • respect to you sir

      @ehought@ehought9 ай бұрын
  • WOW. A scientist who presents a rational cogent argument and still openly admits we really just don't know when it comes right down to it and we need more info. We could sure use a few more of this type of critical thinking scientist. Maybe even in the pharmaceutical industry.

    @RonBaker456@RonBaker4563 ай бұрын
  • This is exactly what my thinking is. If you have an Earthlike planet, with plenty of the ingredients for life. We simple have zero idea what the probability is for those ingredients to come together as needed for life to start. It could be common (although the SETI program could suggest otherwise) or it could be unimaginably rare. We have no idea! Assuming life is plentiful--especially intelligent life--is simply unfounded. And until we can create life in a lab and/or have a sufficiently large sample size of planets vs planets with life, we won't have any idea.

    @HikingUtah@HikingUtah7 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating lecture, it's one I've been waiting for a long time. Thank you professor. For what it's worth, I took it over to Center for Inquiry (CFI) Forum, it's become an engaged thread. Dec 16, 9:52 PM - "Why we might be alone" Public Lecture by Prof David Kipping, under philosophy

    @petermiesler9452@petermiesler9452 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, I am saying those things for many years now!!!❤😊

    @Cilexius@Cilexius Жыл бұрын
  • Great lecture…. Helped me come out over emotional bias about alien life

    @allaboutvisuals@allaboutvisuals8 ай бұрын
  • Great lecture, I like the agnostic approach to life on other planets. We as humans are unique as one species of 8.7 million species of life that exists on our own planet. Perhaps we are hoping to find intelligent species that have human cognition, or planets to expand our species. Both are extremely unlikely in our lifetimes.

    @Mybigfinger_69@Mybigfinger_697 ай бұрын
  • Perspective from emotional bias seems to be a huge problem in science throughout our history. Please keep more of these coming, they’re incredible!

    @jessemills6683@jessemills6683 Жыл бұрын
    • We need more teachers like this

      @sirus312@sirus312 Жыл бұрын
    • Even “rational” physics is full of emotional bias with respect to its most essential premises.

      @koenraad4618@koenraad4618 Жыл бұрын
    • Pretending is not same as knowing, the scale of the universe is way too much for a human brain to digest .Many issues here ,from basic know how to complex ones .Everything is made out of functional parts , if i exists so can others, kowtowing this issues pretty much requires exploration of all universe ,we can’t duplicate the most basics forms of life meaning we are in a very weak scientific position .

      @obiecanobie919@obiecanobie919 Жыл бұрын
    • maybe thats the nature of the universe , where perspective and bias always change reality, and thats a good thing because that way we have new things, if everyone saw the universe the same way we'd all act the same way and that would be wierd and probably not lead to all what we have, so much variatey, choice. Even on this planet alone where all life shares some dna with each other, their take on how to express the code is vastly different. I dont think you cant have it both ways - predicability doesnt lead to variety and vice versa. Ultimately i think if we found an equation of the universe that would break the universe as it woudl be exploited and it doesnt look to be , but maybe has been before and the big bang could of been remnants of a past civilization who found the equation for everything and the universe too is evolving to compensate

      @mikejones-vd3fg@mikejones-vd3fg Жыл бұрын
    • it's why no one was allowed to ask a question about the vaccine

      @kkap895@kkap895 Жыл бұрын
  • Great and refreshing lecture with a reasonable conclusion!

    @vetlius5972@vetlius5972 Жыл бұрын
  • A fascinating lecture, thank you ! Food for thought…

    @oo-dd3lk@oo-dd3lk7 ай бұрын
    • More like stupid.

      @RealGrum@RealGrum7 ай бұрын
  • Life is absolutely aside from Earth. The fundamental processes involved in time and space penetrate our world and consciousness much deeper than we care to appreciate at this time.

    @cosmicpsyops4529@cosmicpsyops45298 ай бұрын
    • Gibberish

      @smark1180@smark11808 ай бұрын
  • Very informative. Thank you Dr. Kipping.

    @Dr10Jeeps@Dr10Jeeps Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent talk!!! Thank you.

    @geekgee@geekgee Жыл бұрын
  • My best guess is that we are very early. Our universe is astonishingly young. Just getting started.

    @SplatterPatternExpert@SplatterPatternExpert11 күн бұрын
  • To save anyone the bother of watching this surprisingly simplistic lecture, it can be boiled down to the simple fact that there is not enough information to know whether there is life elsewhere in the universe.

    @edwilliams5051@edwilliams50517 ай бұрын
    • This lecture is the abstract--He, and others, present much more detail in other lectures.

      @victorferguson-zs7zk@victorferguson-zs7zk5 ай бұрын
  • Engaging lecture, thanks for posting this!!

    @wooddogg8@wooddogg8 Жыл бұрын
  • THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT. Thank you for this beautifully logical, cogent and enlightening lecture. And is anyone getting sick of people sugarcoating and exaggerating for ratings and popularity. These celbri-scientists have a lot of pressure to make people feel good and to keep themselves booked as the presenter states. So approachable. Well done Doctor

    @tedturner03@tedturner039 ай бұрын
    • ... never mind the point that the presenter here is attempting to do the same and be a "celibri-scientist" just like any other.

      @santiagodraco@santiagodraco9 ай бұрын
    • So look here, the odds of this mote of dust being the only mote of dust that is infected with a sentient disease is far greater than there are millions of motes of dust with sentient diseases upon them

      @minealsomine9663@minealsomine96639 ай бұрын
    • @@santiagodraco Guess we all have to decide who we believe - Watch the news you're misinformed - don't watch and be uninformed. 🤷‍♂️

      @tedturner03@tedturner039 ай бұрын
    • "THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT." On the contrary, this is so NOT important. It is impossible to know we are alone, and almost impossible to know we are not. If the latter, due to some received communication, the chance of communicating back is another 'nearly impossible', and the knowledge of another intelligent life (or any other sort) would only confirm what we already knew was possible. And we can't exactly meet for a beer in the city on Friday night, so nothing would be any different. Oh, except all the violent and bloodthirsty human race would start stressing that, having advertised our existence (if we replied to signals) that said other lifeforms would turn up and kill us!

      @alexanderSydneyOz@alexanderSydneyOz8 ай бұрын
    • @@tedturner03 the "news" isn't always misinformation. That's a lie spread by certain political groups to their less than educated masses. The point is to be skeptical, analytical and inquisitive. Blanket statements like yours do nothing other than perpetuate willful ignorance. Also, what does the "news" have to do with it?

      @santiagodraco@santiagodraco8 ай бұрын
  • 99% sure that we are alone.

    @atmanbrahman1872@atmanbrahman18728 ай бұрын
    • Extreme arrogance.

      @Adizzle235@Adizzle2357 ай бұрын
    • @@Adizzle235 I didn't say 101%. Lol

      @atmanbrahman1872@atmanbrahman18727 ай бұрын
    • @@atmanbrahman1872 but you did say 99% You clearly are a the top leading scientist in the world and deserve recognition if your research truly led you to a mathematical precise number of 99% probability that we are alone. But here you are on a YT comment section…

      @Adizzle235@Adizzle2357 ай бұрын
  • Hi. Very rational and level headed video. I'd suggest the emergence of multicellular life was billions of years earlier than 700 million years ago. It possibly got started many times, but was destroyed by meteoric bombardment, which was more common further back in time. It may be that m.c. life only gets a solid foothold after the solar system has mainly cleared itself of its interplanetary junk, until then it's "back to square one" (one cell) hundreds of times over the three billion years since life started. Meteoric impact has definitely had a significant part to play, because without the KT event we'd never have displaced the dinosaurs. Cheers, P.R.

    @philliprobinson7724@philliprobinson77248 ай бұрын
  • great lecture. this way of thinking is so crucial right now and should be applied to all facets of society.

    @koviyovas8325@koviyovas8325 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly. You hit on the most important point of Prof. Kipping's lecture.

      @paulm749@paulm749 Жыл бұрын
    • 1/3 of the way through and he hasn't used any science. It's distance and time. calculate the time it takes to get to the nearest possible alien. it's FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      @jamescollier3@jamescollier3 Жыл бұрын
    • He believes in people having Biases' in believing there is life out there, instead of people trusting science and the law of probability. I don't know why religious people always have to fight science on so many fronts, and now to pretend we are the only thinking creatures in the universe - that is extremely arrogant.

      @mrzoinky5999@mrzoinky5999 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mrzoinky5999 I fail to see how saying "earthlings (humans, dolphins, bacteria, and everything in between) are the only current life in the visible universe" is arrogant. Earth's creatures did not get there from their own merit. They did not will themselves into existence while preventing others from emerging, they just happened to survive and become diverse over time.

      @jellyfish0311@jellyfish0311 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mrzoinky5999 I don't think you understand religious people at all. You're being very arrogant in thinking that all religious people simply pretend we are the only thinking creatures in the universe. The reality is, we have no idea what's going on. All you know is that one day you were here and have memories. That's it. It could all be an illusion. Time may not exist. We may very well be alone. There could be a creator. Who knows? Don't assume that just because someone is religious, they are wrong. You don't know and they simply have faith in something larger. Also, there no such thing as "trusting science."

      @jamescarter8311@jamescarter8311 Жыл бұрын
  • Very thought provoking! Great work!

    @PatrickSmeaton@PatrickSmeaton Жыл бұрын
  • I love your lectures. It would be a privilege to have you as a professor and to learn in your classroom.

    @tabletoptyrant9573@tabletoptyrant9573Ай бұрын
  • Very good and solid lecture.

    @itsawonderfullife4802@itsawonderfullife48027 ай бұрын
  • Many thanks for this classroom. Very informative and interesting.

    @mbj__@mbj__ Жыл бұрын
  • Extremely well argued - thanks David. One addition factor in Lowell’s imaginary canals is not only his faulty eyesight but the cultural archeology bias - imaging canals because they were the symbol of modern technology in the 19th century.

    @artistryinglass943@artistryinglass943 Жыл бұрын
    • we now look for things like dyson spheres because they’re extrapolations of our own needs. we want to meet ourselves grown-up.

      @tonoornottono@tonoornottono Жыл бұрын
    • Rather,​@@tonoornottono, I contend that it's not simply convenient and subjective consideration - based on ourselves. It's a product of the knowledge that *all* life requires energy. In fact all creative or constructive, or transformative processes we can conceive of, have an energy input of some sort. Where there would be a sentient intention to create something specific, it is reasonable to expect steeplingly requirement for energy.

      @assininecomment1630@assininecomment163010 ай бұрын
    • My english is not good, but I understand your statement and i wrote just about modern science. Why do some weird humans think the other planets must have inhabitans? Because of the fact of waste spaces without population? The mosts planets don't offer atmospheres for any creature. Wether animals nor any other creature would ever be able exist there and nowhere was found any clue of those possibilities of life. Since time immemorial mean humans this creatures can be find . Either this probably existing creatures are in a save hiding spot and they are laughing about this stupid humans or there just don't exist. How stupid that notion to ignore!? No science found ever creatures beyond earth. The bible says on, God owns all planets and nowhere says bible on about any hint of other creatures in the universe,...like every science says. Excavations don't bring also to light indications of any creature. Not even something about islam . Only about iron age and Jesus time was found. The temples Solomon etc. Satan is lying to us and many killers say in court they weren't forced by Satan to kill somebody. Catholics are not better, because they are lying too. Revelation warns about the pope as he is an antichrist. Jesus' day of birth is unknown and chrismas, eastern aren't mentioned on bible. No problem celebrate this, but that has nothing to do with bible or christians. Islam is also a lie, which Satan uses for distracting humans from Jesus. Other populations beyond the earth or another life before our life now are lies and distractions from Jesus. Exactly that says on the bible. Scientist aren't able to confirm any islamic prove, how Solomons temple residues for example or any other useful things during iron age. Pre-existence can't be proved also. No war was an idea of God, because only humans are blame! Allah doesn't help or he can't help his fans for having a better life. Those nations are ruled by poverty, wars. Otherwise there remains nowhere any Christian among poverty, no matter where he lives. Show me one Christian who lives in danger, in poverty, but I can show you a crazy not existing Allah, who can't change it better for his fans! To believe on other creatures is also a diversion created by Satan, like I mentioned detailed!

      @burda2809@burda280910 ай бұрын
    • Yes, your English has some problems, but it will gradually improve,@@burda2809. The more serious problem you have, is your silly religious stories. The main reason that no alien life is mentioned in the bible, is that the bible was entirely written by humans, starting back in the Iron Age. Human society back then didn't have the technology to investigate distant celestial objects and phenomena.

      @assininecomment1630@assininecomment163010 ай бұрын
    • Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      @wendellrider1212@wendellrider121210 ай бұрын
  • I think you nailed it. I feel life is a property of matter; however, even if there were 100 million against the odds earths in the universe, we would never know it anyway. Best to use the billion years we have left to good purpose.

    @williamrust5922@williamrust59227 ай бұрын
  • So n=1 is not enough to determine how many balls there are in the bag, but n=1 is enough to determine what average time it takes to develop intelligent life.

    @wolf3522@wolf35227 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful lecture. Thank you, especially, for the green-ball-in-the-urn analogy. I've looked for a way to explain to people that if we happen to be the only intelligent creatures in the galaxy, then naturally we're going to assume that we're the default case. But the green-ball analogy does a nice job of showing this bias for what it is.

    @eyesuckle@eyesuckle Жыл бұрын
  • Loving this. Please upload more lectures, we all want more David Kipping!!

    @moahmed4126@moahmed4126 Жыл бұрын
    • i don't

      @enkidu001@enkidu0018 ай бұрын
    • He has a KZhead channel called COOLWORLDS

      @jibranmalik1400@jibranmalik14008 ай бұрын
  • I think there is a huge, enormous difference between life and intelligent life and he is treating both the same.

    @zyro8623@zyro86238 ай бұрын
  • Great lecture.

    @ComedycopterDrake@ComedycopterDrake7 ай бұрын
  • The prolific amount of life species on the Earth is truly amazing.

    @rickyrodriguez5744@rickyrodriguez5744 Жыл бұрын
    • We live in the Garden of Eden. The returning Apollo astronauts got it. No wonder it made them cry when they got back. Out there is...nothing.

      @simonjones7727@simonjones7727 Жыл бұрын
    • @Simon Jones We don't know if there's nothing in our Solar system. Titan, Europa and some other moons are good candidates for at least simple forms of life. We're going to explore those places and see.

      @FrankyPi@FrankyPi Жыл бұрын
    • To an alien we probably all look the same lol

      @damo9961@damo9961 Жыл бұрын
    • The earth is an Ark in the vastness of space itself.

      @rickyrodriguez5744@rickyrodriguez5744 Жыл бұрын
  • This man is a genius in delivering deep scientific concepts in an interesting and thought-provoking manner. In my opinion, he is the next Carl Sagan. Cool Worlds is an amazing channel. As a teacher, I relay a lot of your concepts to my students and they are so engaged and curious. Thank you, David, for your staying unbiased in science and seeking the truth. One of the best science educators alive.

    @thagrintch@thagrintch Жыл бұрын
    • he's also the one of the handsomest scientists i've ever seen! (no homo)

      @victorchichester6741@victorchichester6741 Жыл бұрын
    • @@victorchichester6741 exactly beauty with brain 😄

      @sajidsh911@sajidsh911 Жыл бұрын
    • You're a toady.

      @ET3Roberts@ET3Roberts Жыл бұрын
    • why not just nuke every planet to make sure.

      @esecallum@esecallum Жыл бұрын
    • He's gorgeous!

      @MeganVictoriaKearns@MeganVictoriaKearns Жыл бұрын
  • My favourite argument cones from Ellie, the protagonist of one of Sagan's novels, who observed that, if we were alone in the universe, that would be an awful waste of space.

    @goodlookinouthomie1757@goodlookinouthomie17578 ай бұрын
  • I just read the vital question by Nick Lane, and he gets into the chemistry in a very interesting way, and actually makes quite a good case for a non negligible Fl.

    @TheSteinbitt@TheSteinbitt7 ай бұрын
  • So good! Thank you 🙏

    @Bernardory@Bernardory Жыл бұрын
  • This is absolutely brilliant. Prof. Kipping is amazing. I love his demolishment of the Copernican Principle in this context, and his rebuttal to the "arrogance" emotional "argument."

    @RogerBuffington@RogerBuffington Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, he is brilliant but Copernican principle is align with his though process stating that the Earth is not the center of the universe, and that, as observers, we don't occupy a special place. How's then it is demolished? It would meand contradicting it's own speech.

      @eskwadrat@eskwadrat11 ай бұрын
    • Totally agree on the emotional coercion. But on the other hand, all that he's demonstrated is that it is impossible to come up with a statistical determination when all you have is a single event. Mind you, the increasing detection of exoplanets similar to Earth suggests that we may indeed be average, which is the whole point in this theory. I think he might have to go back on that one.

      @duke_of_oz@duke_of_oz11 ай бұрын
    • Yeh but he does make exceedingly good cakes.

      @Buster_Piles@Buster_Piles11 ай бұрын
    • Professor Kipping almost said that life is either complete with all of its electron microscopic details and be alive or it cannot generate life at all. We with our brains can’t order up a biological upgrade of our choosing or need. Eons of lifeless time can do nothing but be more eons of lifeless time.

      @saywhat8966@saywhat896610 ай бұрын
    • @@duke_of_oz But this is not what we are discovering. In fact, out of around 1000 solar systems, we have not found a single star system that resembles our own. Most of them are dominated by gas giants as inner planets which make the formation of earthlike planets impossible. More and more, our solar system with rocky planets in the habitable zone, and the gas, giants, further out, appears to be a one off anomaly. The rare earth hypothesis appears to be more or less confirmed, and life, as we know it here on earth, or indeed, life at all, may be vanishing rare, and in fact unique to earth. This is what Professor Tipping means by the Copernican principle not being valid. Earth is not ordinary and the solar system is not ordinary.

      @RogerBuffington@RogerBuffington10 ай бұрын
  • Our own existence is a prove that we are not alone...

    @MarcosGallardo1959@MarcosGallardo19596 ай бұрын
    • And your evidence for saying this is...?

      @victorferguson-zs7zk@victorferguson-zs7zk5 ай бұрын
  • Glad to see Prof. David Kipping out there setting the facts straight, and highlighting just how entrenched expectancy bias is within the professional scientific community. I would like to see 'generalists' like Brian Cox produce the math evidence for the claims he makes.

    @voodooranger1@voodooranger16 ай бұрын
  • Amazingly well thought out and performed lecture. The kind of lecture that makes you smarter in more than a factual sense. A philosophical lecture more than a purely astronomic one and truly convincing, something rare in a philosophical lecture. 👏

    @jdavis.fw303@jdavis.fw303 Жыл бұрын
    • @@pianoman16 Stick to pianos, man. They don't care you're an arrogant twit.

      @laughingbuddha2948@laughingbuddha2948 Жыл бұрын
  • Your description of the timeline actually sounds like a book, play, & movies. I could feel the crescendo. Good teacher!!!

    @chrissylazar@chrissylazar Жыл бұрын
    • what kind of drugs do you use?

      @rickjames5998@rickjames599810 ай бұрын
    • "crescendo"?... I've never heard IT called that one before...😮😁😉

      @t.c.2776@t.c.27768 ай бұрын
  • The fact that this extremely reasonable and rational thinker isn't sitting in the chairs that those charlatans sit in shows us a good bit about our society and it's race to the bottom

    @A_Stereotypical_Guy@A_Stereotypical_Guy6 ай бұрын
  • I love this guy. So succinctly and clearly explains what I've been trying to get across whenever this conversation comes up.

    @TrevorStandley@TrevorStandley Жыл бұрын
    • I'm the same. I can't imagine the probability of life evolving. From what? What created the spark? And, after the spark the evolution is so fast that mere mutations in DNA due to the suns radiation could not possibly have enough time to create the diversity we see. It's just soooooo amazing. Obviously, Darwin could see the evolution of life. But, the big jumps are not explained in my opinion. For example, the mission link.

      @GEB-yy3ud@GEB-yy3ud Жыл бұрын
    • @@GEB-yy3ud you're coming at this from a creationist angle aren't you?

      @TrevorStandley@TrevorStandley Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@TrevorStandley Yes, I guess so... Because just with this phrase: "I can't imagine the probability of life evolving", he's already going against all that the lecturer was trying to explain... 🤷🏻‍♂

      @MauricioMouradaSilva@MauricioMouradaSilva Жыл бұрын
    • Love this guy? I want to change my sex so I can have his baby.

      @likeke.benoyt@likeke.benoyt Жыл бұрын
    • @@TrevorStandley Not a 'Christian' one, or a 'Monotheist.' Just a human who looks at things like the flagellar motor and thinks there has to be a designer.. But, I can't deny that the religions and culture of our planet would have influenced my perception.

      @GEB-yy3ud@GEB-yy3ud Жыл бұрын
  • Wow, this may be first video I immediately watched a 2nd time. So well-presented and very thought-provoking to me. Maybe because of my bias in that I agree it is way too early to know if we are likely alone.

    @ky314@ky314 Жыл бұрын
    • We already know we're not alone. Although we haven't seen "them" we have seen and recorded their transportation devises and or drones. I've seen what ever they are, the the military has seen and recorded and even measured what ever they are, for years. We know how fast they are and have some video of what ever they are. I spend a lot of time in the desert near military installations. They seem interested in our military more than our shopping malls. They observed our nuclear program and our air force. They regularly spend time stalking our pilots. We have them on both video and radar.

      @TheBandit7613@TheBandit7613 Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheBandit7613 If a weird thing hovers around a military base, it's more likely it's a weird thing from the military base than a weird thing from outer space. If a military person says it's not their equipment and it moves in a manner that's impossible, it's more likely that the military person lies about it than it's from outer space.

      @Airola@Airola Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheBandit7613 You can't say I say it and we will take that . Science doen't believe in your eyes brother , it requires evidence - repeatable on experiment table . Next time you saw something set up a science camp and help them conduct experiment repeatedly . Thank You .

      @denshi_lives29@denshi_lives29 Жыл бұрын
    • i was like…wait it’s over!!??

      @bcjammer@bcjammer Жыл бұрын
  • Most everything here is spot on IMO except for one thing: The existence of extremophiles almost certainly increases the odds of life being elsewhere somewhat. It may be less likely for them to have evolved in extreme environments, but the likelihood that they can thrive there opens up the possibility of them being transported through space by natural forces. In which case, they only need to have evolved once in an ideal environment, and could have easily been deposited on may other worlds since that time. (transpermia) 100% agree though that scientists should be agnostic in the absence of more evidence. We know that transpermia might be a possible mechanism, but it is not known for sure if it could actually work that way. But with that said, if someone who had evidence and for sure knew the answer to "are we alone" were to point a gun at your head and ask for your best guess with the caveat that if you guess wrong, they would pull the trigger, what would your guess be? I know for sure mine would be "no. we are not alone" But if someone asks me if I believe in alien life, my answer is always "I don't know, but it is certainly possible"

    @ctvxl@ctvxl8 ай бұрын
  • I feel like life exists just in a different way than what we understand on our world.

    @CannaKoffing@CannaKoffing7 ай бұрын
    • When you say "I feel like" is that the same as saying "I believe"? If so, I would ask you for your evidence.

      @victorferguson-zs7zk@victorferguson-zs7zk5 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic lecture. I have been saying this sort of stuff to people for years and I constantly get ridiculed for it.

    @aguywithanopinion8912@aguywithanopinion8912 Жыл бұрын
    • I still think that life is common out there. There's plenty of reasons to do so. Intelligent life is a whole other matter and I'm more sceptical about that. But ever since I saw this lecture, I've had to admit that my point of view is almost entirely based on hope and not data or fact. There is no evidence as of yet for or against... Only educated guesses that can go either way. Which is kinda awesome in itself. And really fun to think about.

      @johanwittens7712@johanwittens771211 ай бұрын
    • @@johanwittens7712 I agree. I think it would be awesome if there were life out there and it is definitely highly possible that life (at least very basic versions of it) is common. But currently there is no evidence for or against and a lot of people forget or outright deny this.

      @aguywithanopinion8912@aguywithanopinion891211 ай бұрын
    • This lecture is overblown. He literally contradicts himself by bringing up survivor bias and the folly of using our sample of 1 to extrapolate on life elsewhere, but then goes on to do the very same with the ridiculous timeline example. The point he made about arrogance being an emotional appeal was a good one however.

      @yacobz@yacobz10 ай бұрын
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