Did the Vikings Really R***?
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The Vikings regularly attacked coastal regions due to the difficult nature of defending such regions, as well as utilising rivers and stolen horses to raid deeper inland by the mid 9th century.
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Despite reports since the 5th Century of the presence of seafaring Germanic peoples both in the Black Sea and in Frisia, and archaeological evidence of earlier contact with the British Isles, the Viking Age proper is characterized by extensive raiding, entering history by being recorded in various annals and chronicles by their victims."The Annals of St. Bertin and the Annals of Fulda contain East and West Frankish records of Viking attacks, as does Regino of Prum's Chronicle which was written as a history of the Carolingian Empire in its final years. Initially, the Vikings limited their attacks to "hit-and-run" raids. However, they soon expanded their operations. In the years 814-820, Danish Vikings repeatedly sacked the regions of Northwestern France via the Seine River and also repeatedly sacked monasteries in the Bay of Biscay via the Loire River. Eventually, the Vikings settled in these areas and turned to farming.
The fact we can't say "rape" when discussing actual history, for fear of KZhead censoring us is terrifying
Agree, in this context is fully justified to use the word. The YT algorithm must be capable to recognize that. I guess the possible reason for blocking must be the - hypocrite - sense of dignity.
Because you can't have free speech on a private platform and they know full well everyone gets offended by everything nowadays that's why they do it.
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@@Arminius420 if KZhead is a "platform" then they are NOT liable for what people post, so there's no risk to them if someone is offended by language. KZhead is trying to act like a "publisher" wherein what we say would cause them to be liable for what users post. KZhead wants to try and straddle the fence by claiming to be a platform, but regulate our posts like a publisher. you can't be both. the courts have ruled on this.
@@jasonroberts9788 I get all that but its still true that your free speech isn't projected on here.
Our modern legal system certainly is unfair. I lost my sister a few years ago, and would have loved nothing more than to pull his lungs from his body while still breathing. My hands were bound from truly serving justice.
The only justice in this world is that which you make for yourself.
I am so sorry for your loss... and I agree, the justice system is very unfair and unjust.
You should see about paying a gang to take care of him in prison. It's much more common practice than you think
@@fishsmell3939 yep, I worked in corrections and most inmates deeply hate rapists and child abusers. Violence is certainly currency in those places as well. I was jumped once by a guy who had tortured his 8 year old son. I knocked him out with blood pouring out of his face. I soon realized that I had done so in front of a pod of 30 plus inmates who were all howling for me to stomp him to death. It was a surreal experience, but they genuinely hated him.
@@torstenscott7571 dang I never hit someone and had a whole crowd cheering me on. Where the inmates nicer to you after that?
5:57 A father in Loudon County, Virginia found out his daughter was assaulted in a school bathroom. He was arrested for asking the school-board questions, and later the state seized his (legally purchased) firearms. It turned out that the superintendent covered it up.
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@@KenshYuki The superintendent let the attacker get away because he identified as a “transwoman”. Later, the superintendent was charged for his failure to protect girls and then *he started wearing lipstick and earrings to court.* The vikings were right. Community policing with the help of a tall tree.
Notes on what has been recorded after The Battle of Aquae Sextia. - "There were surviving warriors, women and children who were to be sold. Roman historians recorded that 300 of the captured women ended themselves and their children." This is in reference to the Tuetons defeat. Important cultural data point on how early Germanic women viewed slavery/domination/dishonorment. Better to be dead, seems to be the perspective here.
When Nazi Germany fell to the Russians I heard members of the order of the green dragon or Vril society which included Tibetans also killed them selves than be raped and tortured by communists
@@robertpatterson9943 a good death is better than a hellish nightmare at the hands of ghouls imho.
@@robertpatterson9943 the death of Princesse de Lamballe comes to mind. Same phenotypes at work, the paintings depict a pg version. But generally accepted, After a line formed to desecrate her, some accounts say people ate her heart, paraded around her body parts etc. Disgusting maggots having their chance to claw at true elegance and beauty.
Asking your Norwegian mom for advice can be a mind-bending experience...... usually more than you asked for.
Great video you did your research on this one.
Very good video, great use of examples from the sagas, and I appreciate the objective take on the matter!
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grape and pillaging occurred with every culture throughout history...sieges were especially brutal
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love the videos keep it up
Very informative. Hey from Australia!
In our Finnish saga Kalevala there is a myth when a old man has an price of young woman. That pretty girl rather wanted suicide than ending hands of this older gentleman. So she ran to lake and drowned herself.
Don't blame her at all.
Old man defeated woman's brother in combat and brother promised sister for live as I can remember.
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@@taylorfusher2997 why ask as a reply to almost every comment?
It’s sad that women who have been assaulted are still seen to be at fault in some way by some members of society. These same people also see a woman’s value decrease. It’s shameful.
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Haven't watched the video yet, almost no-one will ever blame the woman. It's never your fault to be assaulted but if you don't dress modestly you're not exactly improving your chances. It's just like parking an expensive car in a high crime neighborhood. It isn't your fault that it got stolen but Parking in a better neighborhood would've been a safer choice.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk people in my country does (blame the woman) :D Not surprisingly, no one cares about the rapist but only condemn the woman, whatever her circumstances were.
@@farwahbatool6247 no one cares about the rapist? your country sounds Godforsaken and cursed.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk Fusk off with that what was she wearing bulshit. It does not matter if a woman is naked it is never her fault to be raped!
I'm amazed you manged to cover this topic on youtube; for a whole 21mins with such depth. Great stuff mate I think you did an excellent job here. Must've been a hard one to make over all!
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@@taylorfusher2997 why would you ask that question? Why the he'll would he know ? Most people today no longer know where to pee.
I love to learn about some of my ancestry and this topic was very much a part of what Hollywood likes to say about Vikings. It's really an eye-opener with regards to how honorable most of them were towards women and to each other.
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Well if you look up the definition of the word, the other definitions are basically robbing by force. Historians used it in that sense, but modern society has bastardized the word to basically have only one known meaning. It's sad really, but this one is a flaw of language bastardization rather than a creation of Hollywood.
@@taylorfusher2997 Depends on who you ask. Norse-Pagans are is not one unit of people with same beliefs, but rather a bunch of fools who disagree with each other on almost everything. There is no "one true religion", only the ancestral ethnic-religion. Therefore it is based when Greeks and Meds worship their ancestral Gods, whom they can claim ancestry to via Venus.
@@uglukthemedicineman5933 "bunch of fools"? What's your point in saying this? Other than being insulting.
@uglukthemedicineman5933 it is really insulting to call us Germanic Pagans "a bunch of fools". And that you call us that shows just how ignorant you are, for in every religion their is disagreement. Even in the bigger faiths like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism exist disagreement among its believer's. Other smaller faiths are no exception to that either. Now have a good day and live long and prosperous.
I appreciate that you acknowledged the Vikings view of slaves and conquered peoples. This was very informative, thank you!!
Love ur channel. It must take so long. Keep it up. 💯
There is no 'justice' in modern western legal systems. In countries with a (generally) English based adversarial system, it's a business. I have no training or experience in a more inquisitorial system like (Sweden?), however, neither are perfect at finding the truth of a matter. Yes, that is a massive topic on it's own. Very generally speaking, the modern (English) law was developed to move away from the feudal system. Where you would petition to have the King/Queen listen to grievances and then make a ruling. If you were a commoner with no "reputation" and you had a grievance with someone with status, you were screwed. It was also changed to remove the responsibility of punishment from the victim and their family. An offence against an individual was replaced with offences against The Crown. This is a real quick and dirty explanation... What we have now is a convoluted system of laws based upon an "adversarial" model of Prosecutors(Crown) and the accused (Lawyers). Evidence laws were introduced over the years to protect the accused against immoral or unjust practices (Police) or supposedly 'bad' evidence. Eg. Hearsay. The result is the truth has become the victim. This legal system has come full circle. If you are rich and/or famous or a politician, then you get the 'best' lawyers. As history has shown these people rarely see prison. If you are poor and/or have no status, you get the lawyers you can afford. The 'best' lawyers and barristers don't work cheap. It's a business. Laws are made and changed to include 'loopholes' so that there is wiggle room to argue a case. Equals more billable hours. Evidence is traded between prosecutors and lawyers, outside of the hearing, so what is presented in court is a distortion of the truth. This is when the system is actually working. Let alone corrupt police, prosecutors and lawyers fabricating or omitting evidence. Or courts with a soft 'revolving door' policy. It's a shit show. The "Old Ways" might not have been perfect by any standard either, but it was quicker, simpler and much more of a deterrent. My 2c...
I love your channel will you do a video on the purpose of the Vikings hording silver?
What is strange with saving some money for later need?
I'd be interested in this as well. There's lots of artifacts made out of silver. The Scandinavians traveled a lot and the best way to protect your wealth was to wear it. Gold was used by kings and silver the common people. But it would be really interesting to hear what bjorn digs up about the spirituality/magical uses for silver are. (if any)
@@kev1734 exactly and most of the hoards found in Gotland have had new things put into them but show few signs of people taking things out. I don't think they viewed a hoard back then as we view a savings account at a bank today.
Bastards will be bastards. But I have always found rape disgusting no matter the reason. Its even more shameful for the man. I couldnt even think about doing it myself.
Thanks for not validating the problems of the past and sticking up for modern women. You are a good man, and I enjoy learning history from you! :)
The point made about justice being meted out by family members reminds me of the Biblical Old Testament accounts of the avengers of blood .
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I agree with the family dealing with these issues. Rapists have no fear of repercussions these days
Yea they do. They go to prison yo lol. What world do you live in?
@Fishsmell ... only if the case gets to court and the court is presented with impirical evidence and there is no doubt arising from that evidence and/or the witnesses/defendant/plaintiff.
@FTF yea like every other crime. Idk about you my city does a pretty decent job if the woman comes forward immediately after.
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@@fishsmell3939 they go to prison for two or three years and then are back on the streets and r*pe more women. What kind of “justice” is that??
Fascinating
I was surprised, the history wasn't as bad as I expected. I glad you did this one. I always wondered what the truth was. I also wish it could be handled like back then. The legal system now is a joke.
The truth is that the word has more than one definition, and historians used it by the lesser known meaning of to rob forcefully. Pillage means to loot or plunder. Basically the phrase historians used means they robbed forcefully and looted.
Our ancestors were generally better than us
@@ThatShitGood it's sad where our modern society has gone.
Some comments under this video really make me uncomfortable, a shame that content like this seems to attract degenerates.
I still prefer the Justice system. Vigilante "justice" usually creates family (blood) feuds, like in Italy, or allows sadistic people to carry out demented fantasies. Law & Order >> mob brutality
I wouldn't say the Norse world was any different. All cultures protected their high class women and allowed slaves and war captives to be violated
Ǫ and ǫ (O with twig (also known as a caudata or ogonek)) is a letter in the Latin alphabet. In Norwegian, it is probably best known from written Norse, where it represents a low, back, rounded vowel - much like today's Norwegian å, which has since undergone a sound change to [ø] or [ɔ]. Otherwise, the twig often marks a nasal sound, and it is like a nasal o ([õ]) is used, for example in transcriptions of Church Slavonic.
Nah, people that hunt down others like furious mobs is most times related to adrenaline drunkness. People not only beat up, but kill others and sometimes against the lady's will. I talk from experience since I live in Brazil, people love this type of "justice" which is not justice at all.. it's just mafia/gang culture.
I would argue that it is mafia justice aimed at the right people. Im also from South America.
@@Julian97MetalFighter I'm not into fascism, mob violence or any criminals doing my interests. I don't care if it is right people they are taking, justice can not be done with emotion. What Terrorists, the Antifa, Narcos, BLM, the nazi SA all have in common. If someone goes killing around other criminals and he gets alway it's one thing, organized groups, family members will always seek political satisfaction with their sadistic actions.
What is a government if not the most powerful mafia in a land?
@@windradyne8724 this is out of topic btw, we are talking about people taking justice in their own hands.
Where can I get a calendar like yours, and have it explained in English. Thank you😊
I never understood how a man could gRape a woman. Beyond it being disgusting and cruel, they’d most likely be dry too since they don’t want it. That seems like it would be brutally painful for both people involved.
Because it's not about sexual pleasure, it is and always has been about control over someone
It’s about dominance
I like that you are real in what you say.
7:00 ....very true!
Morals differs with time. We can all agree to that.
And traditions/beliefs evolve. In every religion and culture...
Too many forget this.
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I'd love to know how long it really took to build a warship?
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What humans didn't?
If we’re honest then the Turks and Arabs had the most violent cultures where “forced snuggles” are basically jokes for them.
@@BARBARYAN. Still have a rape culture.
Sub saharran africans. Their entire historical population was composed of only noble kings and queens. No farmers, fishermen, doctors, holymen, no builders, no craftsmen, no cooks ONLY *KINGS*. This population was so holy throughout all of history that they never harmed any other living creature, they were all vegans who never harmed any animal and were actually nearly incapable of even thinking about harming other humans.
@@BARBARYAN. Islam☕
Black Americans and sweJ, obviously. AKshually, every race BUT whites never raped. We why pipo da only ones.
In comparison to even the Abrahamic civilization; A man could accuse his wife of adultery to the Judges, the Judges would give her some dirty water. If her “belly swelled” and she vomited or had diarrhea, then she DID in fact cheat and she would be divorced from her husband. Sold into slavery, or stoned to death. If she was unaffected by the dirty water, then God saved her and the husband lied. The husband would be taxed at a higher rate for his lies, possibly stoned himself, lost his land or a piece of his land. Or, nothing would happen to him at all. I think we take the W on this one.
It's the same as if she drownes she's not a witch, if she floates, she's a witch and will be burned at the stake.
@@accaeffe8032 Exactly. A method to get rid of specific women for a specific reason. It’s a wonder that the very concept of Seiðr even survived into the modern world. Thank goodness for Snorri and the European perseverance.
That should even be the question. The question should be is why people believe that people who make a living and enjoy violence, only partake in one type plus the people they captured during their raise became slaves, which meant they had no rights
Glad to know this, always couldn’t understand how women were treated in popular movies and culture, makes me proud to have Danish ancestry
I actually really appreciate this perspective. I feel it even applies to today. Modern women soldiers are at a great disadvantage if caught or made to surrender. Perhaps males may be subjected to rape, but it is probably not as *expected* as it would be for a woman. Now if it's rape or death, most people would choose the former; the hope exists that they'd live to see their loved ones again. But that is from a modern vantage. I'm glad to live in these times.
A very interesting history, and overall I would say that our ancient ancestors had a more enlightened or just view of the subject.
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Only we whyPipo Voltecht. However that’s spelt. This law seems like a pretty good way to make sure you DO get dishonored BTW. I DO agree we SHOULD be able to hunt them down, but it seems like a way to promote being dishonored, accidentally- unless you had a big family of warriors.
We know the homelands of the Norse were overpopulated, cold and had poor soil. It's well documented that they raided foreign lands and each other. We know from multiple historical sources that they constantly took prisoners who were then sold. Sold in their homeland or in foreign lands. We know at the time that slaves were considered property, and that the belief across the world was that you can't rape property, only use it however you'd like. So the answer is YES. They took slaves and raped them. Just like every other people on earth at the time. It's just that their shenanigans were more well documented by the Britains and Franks than in other areas of the world.
You only need to look at Qatar for modern day slavery.
Anywhere. The "illuminated west" as well. We're all slaves. To the banks, our employer, societal norms, the government .. you name it.
6:10 ma' man, here you get a thumb up👍. grapers deserve no more no less that blood eagle wings.
Jarl Håkon seems like a viking era groomer or something. The kind of person who in this era could be presentable and honorable in most people's eyes, but secretly would be a creep and use his status as a celebrity to get laid and get caught up in #metoo. Also, love your channel. You always present the different topics in an interesting and comprehensible way. Keep it up. Best wishes from Sweden.
Ok sven
Love the idea that the men in the family of the assaulted woman could and should go hunt the attacker down, it should be that way today for sure
What is the intro music?
U couldn't be more correct, in my opinion, about ur views on the concept of modern day slavery...
Part of the bad label as r*pists came from scholars mistranslations and Christian bias. In writing in Anglo-Saxon England they used the word "Rapine". Which literally translates as : "the violent seizure of someone's property." "the fruits of violence and rapine" But Christian scholars upon reading those chronicles translated "Rapine" as "R*pe".
I was told by my dad they were farmers and planted crops and then sailed off and later harvested them while the others took care of village while they were gone. That is what he was told
Probably referring to the vikings from Scandinavia itself. The from Norway and Denmark. Sailing to other lands during the raiding season and returning by harvest with spoils and slaves.
@@spyrofrost9158 Most likely.
@@kanyewestiscorrectabout.7452 Like I said he only told me what he knew, he never made anything up just to give me answer, you didn't really read it through.🤷♀️🤦🏻♀️ I'm in the USA. And they raided the coast just like the Moor's I had to correct that Kanye was right about...
@@kanyewestiscorrectabout.7452 different historic source material refer to Dublin not existing before the norse arrived.. among some other cities "towns".. Most of this "kind" of history is not taught in history class, or in school general.. Being norwegian, with a long line of ancestry to the western parts of norway, i find it hard that most of our history is getting clouded by religion and modern politics.. there is no denial that there is shared blood with scandinavians , irish, english. Which "sadly" i remember was never a relevant topic when i went to school..
@@TheJoachimolsen Scandinavian history was very little of the curriculum yes. With the new DNA-methods and such they cannot rule out all this interesting knowledge.. Oh I forgot, they will. Haha. Its up to parents.
6:24 yes yes agree !!!
6:56 still agreeing 👍
Who else looked at the title and thought "Why did he have to sensor the word raid?"
Not sure if I understood the shield maiden comment but if you think the possibility of being used for sex would discourage women from fighting, then you might be surprised to find out how often men are raped as captives also.
Yeah our modern legal systems are awful. So many stories of murders and rapes where you ask yourself why the family of the victim doesn't do anything. Sometimes the criminal even gets a very low sentence or walks free because the police did something wrong, or the offender themself is a minor. Multiple horror stories from Sweden were the offender is even paid compensation because the police did something wrong. Robbing you of any justice for your kin. Almost like we encourage such behaviour because the reward is huge while the punishment might not end up being anything.
Rave?! F yeah, I do that most weekends... 🤪🥳🎉🍻
Very difficult question for historians, as the position of a woman in medieval society is still a big mystery. However, according to some records, norse women could have had more freedom and alternatives than their vis-a-vis, e.g. in the respect of choosing a husband, leaving him, divorcing, getting married again, and most important inheriting property. But this is applied only to nobility. The life of poor slave cost nothing...and probably female slaves were used for the household and for other "nature purposes" with their children being left bustards..and that's true not only to viking society. It is interesting to look at the genetic data, as if vikings raped women of the nations they attacked these nations would have a lot of "viking genes". In this respect it is interesting to look at England. For long time it was believed that most population of the danelaw are descendants of the vikings, but genetic data doesn't give direct and full evidence for that. The English do share some similar haplogroups with the germanic nations, but that can be argued that these are not from vikings but anglo-saxons. Specific Scandinavian haplogroups in uk can be traced only in Orkney and Shetland, and there is a direct logic in it. Quite intetesting though the genetics of women. Women in Iceland and British Isles (including Ireland) share a lot of similar genetics. But generally the female population of the west and North Europe is very homogeneous with old mitochondrial lineages like their other sisters from the rest of Europe and Middle East.
Of course the father head of the household is in charge of such questions (that was the case everywhere). You raise and feed a woman for 20years and then some nobody lies with her and you keep paying for her (and possibly her childs) upkeep the next 20 years!? That was considered idiotic right until living standarts were raised so much that providing shelter and upkeep (through our taxmonney usually) isn't considered such a big deal any more.
Rape can make me disgusted with sex itself as an instinct.
And yes, I’d very much like to have the men of my family hunt down any violator of my honor, so pay no attention to those who say you’re wrong for thinking that way, and denying a due process blah blah fuckitty blah. Do not shrink yourself or apologize for what you say or how you say it. You’re entitled to your own personal beliefs about your ancestry and your culture. I’m Norwegian and I say let’s bring back the old ways, the ways of honor. Those who do not understand this system of honor, will never agree with you, they will never understand it or comprehend it, but those born of our people, will always get it, even if they don’t live it, they know it.
I agree for the most part. The problem lies in women lying about it. Some women lie and that’s a fact. So, that poses a problem.
I am curious about the slaves. I know that some were from far away places, Ireland, Rus, etc, but what ethnicity we’re the majority of the slaves? We’re they Scandinavian? Even after the villages and tribes joined together into larger kingdoms, would these folks enslave their own people? 🤔
Mostly Britons.
From the time of American slavery, we have examples of slaves who willingly engaged in sex with their masters in hopes of better treatment and also of rising in value once they gave birth. Thomas Jefferson's famous slave concubine was actually a mulatto who was the daughter of his grandfather. I think if we look at the details of slavery in many cultures we will find situations like this; women who hope to raise themselves in favor through sexual complicity.
Wow. I would never leave you alone with children or young women.
@@wormwoodcocktail why? For stating historic facts?
@@sarahgilbert8036 You too, “Sarah”.
There was also Prince Vladimir the Great who conquered Ragnvalds kingdom and forced his daughter Ragnhild to marry him when she turned down his proposal and insulted his mother.
I call r*pe struggle snuggles on YT Also, what is it you say at the beginning of your videos after Velkommen?
"Velkommen alle sammen." - Welcome everybody.
@@CorvusNumber6 Thank you!!! Love the way it sounds
Struggle snuggles is really REALLY wrong on so many levels!! 😖 And now I am totally going to get struck by lightening for laughing at it.
@@Lol_Pig Yip, it's a beautiful language and people. I've been learning it for a while 🇳🇴👍🏻😎
@@CorvusNumber6 I couldn't agree more! My introduction to Norway was the band Dimmu Borgir back in the late 90's. Since then, I've been fascinated with Norse (and Swedish) culture and history. This channel has been a true blessing. May your days be long and filled with joy, friend!
Based King Helgi
History illustrates the shame of the family falls on the daughters. Today a woman can rise no matter her family or genealogy. This was interesting and unflinchingly presented. Thank you.
How did the "leman" fit in Norse society?
Every invading force from ancient times did that crap most certainly not just people who went on viking raids.
How different history and our societies would be if women and men were treated equally.
They shouldnt be. No one ever believed rape was a good thing, (part of the point is being bad) some just dont care about being good or bad.
In regards to the whole kidnapping of women by Vikings, I read somewhere of an English source of the time which detailed an address by a local Lord to the men of his region to bathe and dress better or the Vikings will come and woo all the ladies away. We know combs were highly prized by them. Now I sometimes imagine the invading Vikings as Benny & Bjorn from ABBA, in full 70s glamour, luring all the ladies to the Longships in full eurovision glory.....
It’s wild how many corollaries there are with modern western Anglo-Saxon culture. Specifically the United States. It’s actually kind of disturbing that the presenter and most the people in the comments don’t seem to be making these connections and seeing how the patriarchy overview of women that existed then is still present in our culture and laws
"Here We Go" .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😑
Just sitting around waiting for a strong viking man to come take me while watching this 😅
Imagine if women had the same power that men do and have had throughout history and wanted to use that power for vengeance. I have DREAMS about that shit lmaooo.
has a survivor i do too ...
No can bring you dishonor. You can only dishonor yourself.
The old justice system sounds more on point than what we have today.
The punishment in my country, in 1750 CE: He who will be caught with a tumescent pintle around the parturient parts of the woman, will have his ugly limb cut off for its eternal uselessness.
There are more slaves in the world today than there were four hundred years ago. The chocolate industry would be one example.
but is it because there's a lot more people on earth now? or has the percentage of slaves actually increased?
Who ever wrote these modern day laws for these horrible acts should be hunted down in the same way cause clearly they have no empathy.
Mate you should check oit dr narco longo or "old world"
He talks alot about the bog saga too
The only thing makes hunting down men for assaulting women in the family is that women often lie about being assaulted for revenge, to cover up infidelity or just because of mental illness. Having an impartial party to judge the situation from the outside at least makes it much more likely that the truth is arrived at before anyone gets killed.
Ahh and that was your next point 🤣
Skal brother
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Someone's getting demonetized
Yeah KZhead prefers the promotion of degeneracy, not good ethics!
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ah yes, surely a culture that was based on raiding surely wouldn't have r---d, that would've been so out of character for them.
Well no ofc not, everyone back then did that shit, but it was definitely not as excessive as it is portrait today in pop culture :)
@@asgrim1513 yeah, but r----g was part of raiding, and since vikings, were known for raiding, you can make the conexion
So, how is that culture based on raiding ? Please explain . They were farmers , and some people went abroad to trade, and some to raid, but the cultured was not based on raiding, that would never worked.
@@indianajosefsson I have the feeling that reik has his information about Viking Age culture purely from pop culture stuff.
@@indianajosefsson Vikings, i was talking about people who went viking, not the farmers. Sorry wrong word, change based with famous for
Seems like the more humans became "civilized" the more dishonoble they behaved.
Robert E Howard certainly believed so.
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I’d say the English were the worst offenders! Just look at what they did to Australian Aboriginals, the English almost graped them out of existence! And that was happening up until 150 years ago!
The English really weren't that bad mate. if it had been any other culture that settled in Australia things would have been far worse. It would have been genocide.
@@WyrmtongueDCLXVI Not true at all the Muslims and french colonies didn't commit mass genocide like the British
While at the same time, the British were hunting down slave ships to end worldwide slavery and trying to improve the lives of non Whites. Beside killing Aboriginals without cause was illegal in colonial law at the time. Bro what were you reading or hearing this from.
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 I more was referring to the Portuguese, Spanish, or any of the Asian cultures... Muslims only made is here recently and that was to escape the absolute Trainwreck that is Middle eastern Islamic culture. If the Australian Aboriginal didn't convert to Islam they would have been destroyed... Tell me, how fine of a hair is it to split between that and genocide? And as for the French... France has a very dark past mate I really wouldn't put it past them.
I love the modern day English, but there is unfortunately a lot of truth to your comment. Like so many South African women (and people) confirmed (I think all of whom have passed away by now), particularly during the Boer War. Concentration camps, scorched earth and assaulting women and children. I'm glad this is now a thing of the past and that this is such a distant memory to mankind that they find it hard to believe, I think that means we as humanity are doing better as a whole
I disagree with you that because a word was lack in a language that it means it didn't happen. Rape was so incredibly common amongst our ancestors. Rape wasn't seen as heinous by that many. Consider how careful a young girl needs to be walking at night in the 21st century with all the laws and surveillance we have. Or how careful a young man or less-defence man needs to be, entering prison. Now imagine what it was like with far less people on the planet, where you could murder, rape and do whatever you wanted without much consequences. There's no DNA, barely any witnesses, people lived far apart or in small, dark villages. Rape was just an accepted part of life, particularly during war, fighting, disputed etc. Crimes of all kinds were beyond imagination.
I think you misinterpreted what he was talking about a bit. Rewatch the begging yo
Do you have any scholarly sources that compare the prevalence of rape then vs now? While I would agree that rape is much easier to prove and prosecute in our modern era, the attitudes towards it in ancient times probably made it less likely (when talking about old Germanic cultures of course).
@Mill_Mount that simply is not true. Human beings have not "evolved" to higher intelligence potential. If anything, the constant bombardment of westerners to short 10 second clips of indulgent degenerate behavior leads me to suspect that modern humans are so far removed from any connection to natural order that we are far more likely to justify something as vile as rape via moral relativism.
@Mill_Mount IQ is not a measure of literacy, or the use of technology to access knowledge accumulated over the centuries. IQ measures one's ability to problem solve. The human species has not evolved into another species, therefore our inherent problem solving capacity has not changed. Being that the acceptance or refutation of rape is a moral or even cultural consideration, it has less to do with one's ability to solve problems but more to do with the individual's moral compass. There are plenty of intelligent rapists who simply avoid detection and capture, and plenty of morally sound people who are complete morons, so IQ as a factor is something of a red herring. I suspect that you might be arguing from a bias against older cultures, perhaps the notion that societies evolve and progress. I would agree that we can build off of previous cultural and technological achievements, but at heart, we are still the same humans that our ancestors were. Whether the bronze age, iron age, industrial revolution, or today; human beings are still just human beings.
Just sanction bounty hunting SOs
Hunting down men for rape allegations has a horrible history in the States where many black men were lynched in the South.
"horrible"
White people got lynched more often actually that is just mob justice it's not worse if it happens to blacks
...because they were criminals who actually committed the crimes. Just because some lynching were based off hate, doesn't mean they all were. The vast majority of lynching were White people. The practice actually started with the Italian community. Black history in America is as much about Hollywood portraying them as eternal victims, as Hollywood portrays the Scandinavians as ruthless raiders.
@@CthonicSoulChicken I really don't trust any sort of mob justice
@@funnyguy5746 Emmett Till didn’t deserve to be beaten to death for whistling at a woman. We don’t execute men for screaming “nice tits” at women. It’s rude, it’s gross, it sometimes warrant confrontation, but it doesn’t justify extrajudicial execution
The Vikings weren't anything special when it came to bad behavior one of the highest case point is (south Africa ) highest in the world still. It isn't something that's exclusive to just the Vikings, but the Vikings most definitely WAS NOT the highest either. It's bad no matter were it happens to be clear and I'm not defending it, I'm just saying it happened and happens all over the Vikings are no special over the top case.
People like to forget that they didn’t have have police departments, 9-1-1 & that. People had to figure it out for themselves. Thanks for the show
Just remember my friends, when someone of an Abrahamic persuasion accuses your ancestors of this, it's encouraged by God in the Bible as a good thing. "But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves" Num 31:18
Now we need to know if vikings were into booty time
Unfortunately sexual violence is a hallmark of wars and conflicts. We have to remember that the Norse provided more rights for women in their realms than most of the world did.
I honestly doubt that, you’d have to look at literally every other kingdom or civilisation nearby, most of whom in Europe were also of Germanic origins like the Norse and then make a judgement.
No, you're just assuming that. Literally ask yourself why you think this and who is trying to make you think this way. Inspect the appearance and conviction of the people telling you these things. The norse weren't unique in that regard at all. You could say most of europe had a practice that was characteristic of trust-based soceties, celts are another example of a virtuous people. The instances where sexual violence became most common is in certain african populations and with islam/other semitic religions because they either never conceptualized morality, or they made laws and procedures to justify a lack of morality.
@@Retetop when you say ‘other Semitic religions’ do you mean Christianity? I don’t think Jesus never conceptualised morality
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 Yes, Christianity and Judaism. Christianity isn't just the holy trinity, its the whole mass of organized religion with that name. Wether they had a lack of morality or not depends on the region, era and their specific sect and every other factor, but I will say that the Christianity Europe experienced since the fall of Rome was inhumanly cruel in a vein similar to communist regimes.
@@Retetop ‘similar to communist regimes’ I don’t believe that. I don’t know how Christianity could introduce a communist regime considering feudalism was a system built off land holdings and private property. When you say ‘inhumanely cruel’, what do you specifically mean? If I remember correctly the Romans enslaved millions, Norse, Germanics and Celts also took many, many slaves, whereas Christian Europe largely adopted a system of serfdom until they became colonial powers, wherein while you are an indentured servant to your lord you have far more rights and privileges than any slave, meaning the incentives to work were made far greater. Also, what do you mean by lack of morality when it comes to rape? How did suddenly when Christianity came into being, a religion which preaches sexuality morality, cause rape statistics to suddenly shoot up? If you’re argument is sexual repression then that’s wrong because Christian Europe wasn’t nearly as prudish as we make it out to be. I get it with Islam because Islam treats women like objects.
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I have to say without watching that history is written by whoever controls the narrative at the time. That not currently being the Vikings I doubt that was a way of life for them. We are not so very far removed in time so would still have the same sensibilities. ☆edit☆ I will watch later on when I have a bit of time and see how my answer stacks up.
Okay... The use of said word combined with "pillage," does not mean forced intercourse. According to Miriam Webster as a noun 1) the most known definition not going to type it all. 2) an outrageous violation 3) an act or instance of robbing, despoiling, or carrying away a person by force. As a verb 1) to commit said word on 2) a] despoil b] archaic: to seize and take away by force The use in this sense is to rob by force. Basically when people say Vikings did that and pillaged, the actual meaning is robbed by force and looted.