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Oh man, I love it when the Butterfly Effect is The Knucklehead Report.
There was a few big mistakes today. 😂🦋👊🤪
Second brand...
You had me at Knuckleheads. 👍
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Really great to see Bernal getting back to top form!
Arensman pulled 10 seconds or so. Bernal 2kms and after that just continues at 95%. Bernal getting better every day
Bernal looks better but do you honestly think he can hang with top guys on a major deciding climb in July?
True that 💪🦋👊
@@gijsaartsen4805to be fair, he pulled quite a bit longer. Still, good to see Bernal back.
@@recrevs963Well, no one could hang with Pog and Jonas (if he’s there with top form). The rest? Why not? He may not beat the rest of them by default, but he has as good a chance to be the best of the rest as any of them.
8:17 the Lamas / Alpacas are thinking "what are those knuckleheads doing?" lol
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Great stage, so good to see Carapaz win. 🎉
He deserves a win. 👊🦋🥇
Great stage indeed
Chris, I have a topic for a video for you. We need to see a video about the Chesterfield. Top to bottom we know to know everything about. Maybe compare/contrast with a Davenport. A chesterfield buyers guide would have to be included. Thanks for the great videos.
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I watched this stage and was amazed with the communication in the Bora Team.........Lipowitz was the strongest rider today.....he could have taken it all if Vlasov was a better teammate....I guess that being a Team doesn't mean much at Bora since this isn't the first time that situations like this happen....
You could also say that Vlasov was team lead with 3d in GC and Lipowitz 22 seconds back, Lipowitz could have worked together with Vlasov and they may be in yellow right now. Who's to say what's right....I guess Bora team leadership
Lipowitz was the bad teammate. He should have been pacing vlasov. Vlasov could be in the yellow jersey right now if Lipowitz had done his job properly. It was almost as if Lipowitz Was riding for both EF and ineos but Definitely not bora.
@@SignatureServices-uz2df vlasov just had not the legs for it. it was 100% right from lipowitz to go for the stage.
@@eonbart Nope, bad teammate.
@eonbart Giant fail for bora, Lipowitz didn't win the stage and left his GC man to fend for himself. Horrible, teammate.
Excellent humor on languages.
Great comment, Chris. Plus about Uae, Grosschartner. Him gave 100% in Itt and in this crucial mountain stage him was dropped on first climb and never come back. So him help to Ayuso was Zero. As Zero was from Mc nulty. Ok, won Itt, but dropped in last climb today from a group of 40. Also him help to Ayuso was Zero. Adam Yates help to Ayuso = Zero too.....
If Chris had a nickel for every knucklehead in the Pelton...
That would be a lot nickels. 😂👊🦋
Lipowitz may be a knucklehead, not thinking about his race leader, who seemed to be in trouble anyway. On the other hand, young riders sometimes have to put themselves on the map one time or another. Otherwise they may relegate themselves to help others for years on end. Now everybody knows what Lipowitz may be capable of.
The point is he did neither. If he had gone earlier, he would have caught Carapaz. If he waited, he could have pulled Vlasov along.
@@daleforbes3322assuming Vlasov had the legs. Yes but now they have options so I favour the move. It's not traditional we seem to be seeing inter team competition more and more these days.
Carlos Rodriguez and Carapaz will perform great in the tour for sure
Go Carapaz Go!!!
What a fantastic summary, Chris! You brought the race alive explaining the strategies, "knuckle-headed", and otherwise.. You painted such a great picture of the context with your experience and insight, I couldn't wait to hear what was going to happen next. Thanks!
The llama was telling him to get off the front !
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Brilliant commentary as always! Thanks Chris!
When see 14k. I thought, this could be a very short video or I am going to have to do some extra work and find some good details. So I went fishing for details all over and luckily the final climb gave me a few more. 🎣 🦋👊🔥
Who remembers Columbians Luis Herrera shocking the euro peloton so great to see them giving the finger to the badger😂
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I was able to watch the full coverage on cyclocross cx channel early this morning PT. (in Sisters). So many amazing young riders in the top ten. It was especially exciting from the point Egan Bernal broke up the field.
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I have same problem with the King's English.😂
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egan crushed it
Again, nice commentary. I learn so much watching your videos, Chris!
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the races without the monsters are so much better to watch, i enjoy how close these racers and races are skill and results
Chris I just have to say how lovely the background color looks. It definitely is a good backdrop color for you and it makes your eyes stand out. Much better than the grey color that totally washed you out and made you look pasty. Also, good commentary. I didn't get to watch today's stage but I did see on Pro Cycling Stats that Carapaz won and the race leader jersey changed hands. Thanks for all you do to keep us up to date on these stages!
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Tomorrow's semi-circuit race will be in the western hills "downriver" from Genève 🎉 happens to be where we'd go during the Vendange festivals, where every vineyard opened their new bottles, and served great food. ❤🍷❤️
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Good show Chris, tuff race man and everybody should know that Carapaz always uses a knucklehead to pick up speed
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Hey Champ. Have you watched tour of Turkey this week? The "New" Danish sensation Tobias Lund Andresen made my ears itch. I really like this guy. What do you think? 🧐 Stay safe 🤘🇺🇲🇩🇰🤘
Lol. Yep same here in Washington state it came on with 14K to go. Now i can go back and watch the first part of the stage. The last 14k was paz almost getting beat. What a great finish. So now to strape on the feed bag and watch the first part of the race.
I had to ride the trainer after our video was done so that I could enjoy the stage properly. 👊🦋
Cyclismo Pleno streams this race UK commentators. Starting at 66 km
And on KZhead... (if you meant elsewhere) I just finished watching their near 2 hour replay)
I finally got it here in Bend later. It was a hard stage and full gas all day. ⛽️🦋👊💥🔥
Good on Carlitos, I think maybe in your previous analysis you focused too much on UAE's tactics to win with Ayuso, but INEOS did brilliantly. You did not mention how INEOS could win the tour but, Egan and Carlitos did so well. They proved that with great tactics, comes great responsibility. Spider Pog needs to learn this lesson from Uncle Ben too just like humble Carlos did. My thoughts and prayers to Carlos Uncle Ben who died unjustly by a mugger. When Pogacar did his Spider Man victory pose, I was so offended... What will Uncle Ben think of this act of immodesty...
It was interesting to see Vlasov refusing to work with Mas (to the visible frustration of the former) up until Carapaz distanced Lipowitz. That was a bit of good Bora cooperation even though, as Chris said, Lipowitz pulling Carapaz/Rodriguez away was unnecessary.
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So nice to see Lipowitz this strong
The kid can pedal his bike. 🚲 💪🦋
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Bonifications return! Finally!
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Aigle sits at 433m elevation; my (former) village on Lac Léman's shore at 372m, and my apartment there, was probably 374-375m 🎉
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Ok Lipowitz pulls the virtual leader for a short time but does it really qualify as knucklehead when they materially benefited on GC? Bora are 100% better off at the end vs at beginning of stage, Look forward to being corrected.
Hayter can either be at the very front of the peloton or the very back, but not in the middle.
Say what you want about the knucklehead style of racing: it made for an exciting race!
What else do you think Carapaz could win this year besides today's stage? You know that lately he's been showing that he's going to win some things.
Today’s win helped that he was a bit down on GC so Carlos rode on the front for more time. If Carapaz is off of the Gc he can a win a lot much like the Vuelta in 2022. 💪🦋👊
Smartest rider in the peloton. Knows when to stay and when to go.
From 65K out KZhead showed the race, 4 days as well
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Look! There are Llamas!
Yes there are. 😂🦋👊🦙
Eh to me looked like UAE just didn't have the legs, couldn't do much different. Lipowitz over-excited for sure but that's inexperience, hopefully he learned from it. Do you reckon he can win GC?
UAE Team Knuckleheads
Was UAE just showing off, or riding hard up front because that's what they were told to do? All the talk has been about how strong that squad is, but they fell apart on the mountain.
They're bidding to become the new Movistar - and Soler has moved - hmmm... Lol
I was thinking after I saw them pulling so crazy hard that they took my video yesterday to heart. Chris said make it sprint, so we will bring back everyone no matter who he is up the road or where they are on GC. Oops, my bad. I should have said only the important GC riders need to come back. But I did say go as easy as possible up the last climb, so it’s not all my fault. 🤪😂🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingI guess all the tactics came to nothing when legs didn’t have the goods.
Huh. I watched from 65K out... it didn't LOOK like UAE was going full gas, but maybe they were doing more work than the TV cameras were picking up on. The gap was never more than 1:30 or so, even from 65K, so I guess they were, it just didn't look like much of a chase at first. Lipowitz... yeah, I agree on those mistakes, although it is easier to see some of those after the fact, I guess. He could have won the stage if he'd been a little cagier, but Carapaz was on FIRE today.
"Thats the ticket"
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TIZ- what up early
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Chris, if you don't have legs means you don't have legs! 🤷♂️
Pretty much. No legs means no legs. And I would not say that Ayuso was going to win even if UAE didn’t ride so hard but 3k is only 3k. 😂🤪🦋👊
Problem is..yates and sivakov fell apart even before ayuso. And Bora and Carapaz didnt.
Hehehe. That is the straight forward no argument possible answer. 😂🦋👊
knuckleheads stage and i njoy it !ils ont fait des bordures at the begining . njoylife
Always love me some knucklehead racing. 🔥💥🦋🤪🦋👊
Who is the Bora DS shouldn’t he be fired it seems that the DS now are guys who were in the laughing group in their day and have no idea what is going on in front
Rolf Aldag if cyclingstats are accurate. But the distance to the finish when all of Lipowitz mistakes were made could make it hard for DS especially if he didn’t see it directly or on the car TV. Possibly he doesn’t know exactly how hard Vlasov was going or possibly didn’t see that Lipowitz was the one riding the front or attacking. We can surely blame Lipowitz though and Vlasov is old enough to get on the radio and tell Lipowitz to stop. Of course maybe Vlasov was over his limits and could not see from the blood in his eyes and pain in his legs. 👀 🤔🤷🏼♂️🦋👊
Chris how is that you are watching that garbage of FlowBikes? For that I can give you my knucklehead award. Other than that, thanks for your always insightful analysis.
If I don’t hear the words KNUCKLEHEADS & CHESTERFIELD I’m sad
Today, it was Ayuso's turn to be like "I'm gone, I'm dead" 😓
Some of the UAE riders need to step up their game if they want to help Pogacar make history.
It got ugly out there today for them when a sprinter is dropping them and 40riders are left still. Yikes. 😬🦋
Do Pog need help to make History?
Happy for Carapaz and EF getting the W. Ayuso had the ugly face and UAE, knuckleheads. They do some good stuff and then, bam! Knucklehead stuff. That is consistent though. 😐
Yes it is. 😂🦋👊🤪
I'm no expert, but I feel that ineos did it wrong and got lucky that Carlos Rodriguez was able to keep up with carapaz. No need to show off most of the stage and finish with last breath.
Ineos needed/wanted to ride on the front to make sure the time bonuses were a possibility and that the race was really hard. Ok, maybe UAE were already thinking that they wanted the race as hard as possible and that’s why they were going so hard when the cameras can on and if so you are exactly right if Ineos got on the front when UAE were already riding a 100%. In that case Ineos are a big knucklehead. 🤔🤪🦋👊
This topic would make a good video later. 👊🦋
My thought initially as well, why were they doing the work for UAE. But on the other hand, would UAE have kept it together if Ineos didn’t show their force? Their pace did eject a few UAE key helpers and made Yates almost useless. Also, Hayter and Castroviejo are going to get dropped on the climb anyway, might as well get them to do some work. I guess ultimately it is about your opponent. Doing this against Pog, Jonas or even an in form Romeco would be an absolutely knucklehead move. Even if they are isolated, they could still fry you over with a devastating long range attack. With Ayuso, the move did crack him and bring Ineos the GC win.
You did not mention Carapaz, he was brilliant, rode perfectly this stage. Probably not as strong as the German but tactically perfect ! Your old team FDJ was disapointing. Seeing Gaudu in front on Martinez on the line does not make sense to me either...
Not enough. You are correct but there was a lot going on. 🤪🦋👊
Yes. Ayuso is an up and coming young superstar, but he often seems overconfident, he obviously had to dig deep in the ITT yesterday to take over the lead, and UAE wasn't patient in the key stage today. When Ayuso had to get on the radio and try to slow the pace, it was too late. What ever happened to tactics and teamwork in the European pro peloton? Seems like it used to be better.
It’s gone crazy out there. It seems everyone just wants to win the hard way. But it makes for great viewing. 😂🦋👊💪
Isaac del Toro is the way of UAE
I think he is the neo pro that have mentioned more then any other one before him. If he is racing he does something to get a mention in the video and it’s always impressive. 🔥🦋👊
UAE, ridicoli.... Spero Pogacar possa fare qualcosa al Giro, perché con una squadra così non andrebbe lontano.
Sneaky Billy Carapaz. Since that 2019 Giro you never know when he will strike...except when Pogi is there...like last week he can't do nothin' when Pogi is around. Who is numero uno for Ineos in the Tour? They gotta make Rodriguez their man and surround him with solid team.
Ineos better come with every one of their top riders who have good form because if we get all four of the greats going this year there will be only scraps left. 😬🦋🔥💥👊
Really don’t think Jonas can make Tour in good form. He’s still not riding; Remco would most likely blow at some stage (I think recovery is his weakness); There is a 50/50 chance for Roglic to go rubber side up (I really hope he won’t and show us at least once what he is capable of at the Tour).
On the other hand, Bernal Rodriguez paring makes more sense than Thomas Rodriguez. Bernal and Rodriguez compliment each other while Thomas is basically an older more experienced Rodriguez. The Bernal pairing can exploit more tactical possibilities.
Also, they’d better drill into Pidcock to forget about GC. Get Tom to drop some minutes at the beginning. He can then go stage hunting and provide some vital GC support.
Surprised to see Ayuso fall off. Needs to improve consistency. I think Isaac del Toro will leap over him on the team. Del Toro is beating up on the women and children in Asturias at the moment...
Once again，confused by uae team’s tactic and performance，so uncertain and unstable.when we talk about the chance of tadej winning 2024 Giro and Tour, how’s such kind of teamwork supposed to protect and support him？
UAE is racing under the Pogacar effect. They are all incredibly talented, world class athletes but so completely outclassed by Pogacar that they routinely ride for their own agendas, stage wins or other professional accolades... Or, they ride too hard or without any semblance of strategy because in their training sessions, they can go 100%, 100% of the time, and Pogacar will still be able to go 25% faster... So they either try to show that they are in the same zip code as the maestro and build their palmares or overestimate their pace is and blow their own doors off... Also it's clear that as talented as they are, they are ALL understudies, and none of their results really matter to UAE... I mean when you have a teammate who can reliably win a GT, 1-3 monuments, 1-3 week long SRs and any other races he targets any wins you get is nothing more than gravy as long as Tadej is conscious and fit enough to pedal... It's sad to see them fight among each other as opposed to working smoothly together like the old SKY team of galacticos... But it does make for unpredictable racing!
Memirates strikes again😂, they will never learn
Old school climber wins what happens a Eastern European lost 😂
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Uad more knucklehead than not. Don't want to see aruyso on tdf v/c they race like they have tp in tow. They did the same in 2022 tdy
2022 TdF on stage 11 the tactics were ridiculously bad. And it cost them the TdF. They had help with sickness before that stage and afterwards but wow did the tactics get ugly. Yikes. 😬 🦋🤪
Forgot about the illness. But you neve rally know how uae is going to ride in any given stage . Just shows that everyone below tp at uae aren't yet ready for prime time (most of the time) when given opportunities in the 5 to 6 day stage races.
Please stop using the word bonification!!! It's not smart and not clever, it's not even a real word, just like the word bonus for together with clarification and had a love child!!! Other than that great analysis. I say down to watch this on catch-up here in the UK to hear them talk about having been over 3 climbs (which is what I wanted to see) but at least your the last 40-60km. I felt cheated at that, but to only get the last 15km?!!! As for the racing, what was Carlos Rodriguez doing dragging all the GC contenders back to the front after Bernal put in that attack?!!! Thought he got off lightly from your analysis. It's great seeing Bernal finally getting back to a certain level, even if he's really just supporting here.
Actually Rodriguez bridging was the smart move once he saw what happened with Ayuso. He gapped Ayuso when he jumped over and forced Ayuso to chase. Bernal needs over a minute to get past Ayuso. He’s not strong enough to get that kind of gap. Chris actually thought UAE shouldn’t chase him immediately. If Rodriguez didn’t jump, UAE might as well ride temp to the finish and keep the jersey. So Ineos promptly changed approach and decided to use Bernal to pull Rodriguez and breaking UAE in the process.
I watched the entire race live on Ciclismo Pleno => kzhead.info/sun/fcqNYs2vbKWhqps/bejne.html
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Hi Chris youre dutch and flemmish is also not verry good , but youre English is verry good
Why would Lipowitz abandon Vlasov, is the question
Yep 🤷🏼♂️🦋
Bonus🫷❌️ Bonification 👈✅️
What are your thoughts on Team UAE this year? Their climbers are blowing up the climbs. They're losing races wherein they should have won. In paper they are always the strongest, yet they always lose the jersey. Yes, they've won most of the TT stages but always losing in the mountains without Pogi. Ayuso was released to be the next Pogacar after a press release that Ayuso was the only one who was able to stay with Pogi on the climbs. Yet he does not show that he is. The only time he showed his climbing prowess was Stage 5 of Tour De Suisse last year where he won the stage. But nothing after that. Ayuso overrated? @ChrisHornerCycling