E0S1 V1 Firefly vs Apocalyptic Shadow - New Game Mode

how does it end tho? Guess I’m confused on that, i assume it‘s until you die or kill the boss

@@filmaphobic I think it does have a maximum AV elapsed cap, but it will just exit the fight and tally up the points for that side. The only real failure condition appears to be wiping from everyone dying.

​@@fredxu99Remember Virtual Scentventure event in 1.6? It will be the same I assume. 2000 pts with 2000 AV about to be used.

Yeah, i remember they have certain an event long time ago, there's poin counter that goes down everytime your ally take turn, so basically just go asap against time

So it’s basically no different from moc lol

the duality of hmc*

@@karnism firefly cuts def for breaking, this doubles the damage of breaking

​@@karnismhmc only provides the super break mechanic, Firefly is making the super break stronger from her def ignore, vulnerability multiplier, res penetration, and high break effect. Read the Super Break formula again

Also the break efficiency​@@plang-plang5035

@@plang-plang5035 Pretty sure she has no vulnerability multiplier and only has res pen at E6, she just has a lot of def ignore ( 80% with her relic set) and some bonus dmg against weakness broken enemies

Hoyo is introducing us to this Break Effect meta, I think they want us to use other mechanica in the game besides the crits meta

Just like bloom

Except you need RM in order to make HMC good

​@@timurmotigullin579 and HMC in order to make Firefly good 😭

@@confusedjay717 well he is free but you need at least e4 to make him good.

If this mod doesn't have a time/cycle limit, then is this the question of survival? Or "as long as you are able to kill it, you pass"?

@@wanshang4901 yea

Who is sb?

@@tomijoyodiwiryo3718super break from harmony trailblazer

Man, I wish PF doesn't have turn limit. MoC sure, cause we can't have every thing nice

Againts one target maybe, but does he struggle againts multiple?

​​@@xenoemblem7one or two is fine. He wants trash mobs so he can stack

​@@xenoemblem7hmc will clear any remaining mobs

​@@xenoemblem7 Not really, he can break trash mobs with one skill activation, plus he gets stacks out of that

@@xenoemblem7he’s the only hunt character where attacker smaller mobs actually omega buffs him so he can just one tap the main target after break which is awesome

You mean Follow up team?

ong, got topaz at 16 pity. Gonna farm this mode so bad

Nah u need break boss weakness fast, he can't do anything

​@@LupinaCattoHe does exactly that tho. He's the hunt unit with the strongest weakness dmg after boothill. Just pair him with ruan mei and he'll shred the weakness bar

This boss doesnt have a imaginary weakness so your topaz will have to work overtime lol.

Seele can't even consistenly take out ads in moc 11 and 12 she ain't going to do shit in the high tiers of this game mode

Noo don't say to my girl 😢

Any aksers? modCheck

Bahaha, first Seele would need to be able to actually kill adds. She can't even do that in MoC 11 and 12. She's still dumpster, what are we talking about here. Thank god i stopped using Seele and started using QQ instead. She's actually good, does damage and CAN kill stuff, unlike Seele.

@@asassin232 if your seele cant skill for 60k against these trash mobs with resurgence + supports, then you're doing something fundamentally wrong.

People are saying she bad 😂😂😂 cuz she need hmc on her team

i mean thats the point of her kit. to superbreak. She doesnt have any crit scaling based on what we have so far.

@@yamirellik5720 no she bad coz she need ruan mei on her team all that ruper break damage coming from ruan mei efficiency boost not firefly you can see even gallager hit above 200k

@@vegitoblue6969 so answer this yes or no (if u say anything eles I'll just ignore) dose sam need rm more than hmc?

@@yamirellik5720 lmao so true. Firefly is bad bc she needs hmc, who is also a completely free unit. I’d be pissed if firefly couldn’t function without a limited 5 star, but hmc is free and completely busted.

Good Luck getting him first

@@setabkhan3081 Ty! I've got a garentueed, I just need to save some more

Sorry who asked?

@@yamirellik5720I DID

@@yamirellik5720 me

I was wondering the same thing. PF and MoC have a cycle limit. With this, as long as your team doesn’t die you’ll win eventually lol.

Mr. 8 cycles 🥰

​@@PridefulSinner wdym 8 cycles

@@PridefulSinner I will dispatch you... in 20 cycles! /s

No cycle limit, but the longer you clear the least point you get. Meaning that you still need to clear fast for getting max reward.

There's a buff you can pick before entering battle. Maybe those early leaks didn't pick those yet. I picked some BE boost iirc

The thing about Firefly is that she's a Break Effect meta. Meaning she's only focused on BE dmg. What people don't understand about Firefly & HMC is that both of em are very compatible bcs of Super Break(SB). HMC provides the SB mechanic to Firefly and Firefly simply makes it stronger Bcs in SB formula, the dmg of SB is scales from a character's BE, Def ignores/multiplier, how much toughness dmg, vulnerability multiplier, and how much Res penetration/multiplier. And Firefly has Def ignore, Res penetration, vulnerability multiplier, and huge BE. If you compare her SB with other dps such as Jingliu. Firefly's SB would deal bigger damage

@@plang-plang5035yet the fact is she is tied with his husband to actually be useful and cannot re trigger Be damage(her main source of dmg)on her own

@@floptad and yet people complain about BE meta being introduced for the first time. Similar to DoT was first introduced with Kafka. They're too rotten wirh crits, hypercarry, and oneshot unit that they forget other mechanics in this game exist as well. Maybe that's why Hoyo made Firefly & HMC such a good pair

@@plang-plang5035literally half of the community cannot accept any dps if they do not scale of crit like I am tired of this hypercarry meta we should bring hyperbloim to hsr and that's exactly what they're doing

​​@@plang-plang5035 I'm just gonna nitpick but firefly's def ignore isn't that crazy good if you aren't pairing her with another character who can give def shred. But vertical investment with her should be pretty great though. E1S1 firefly, E1S0 Ruan Mei, HMC, and the Def shred nihility healer. This should be like a straight up 1.8x DMG increase compared to E0S1 firefly, E0S0 Mei, HMC and any healer. Assuming the new nihility healer can get firefly up to 100% Def shred.

Looking at the cutscene looks like the camera bugged out

Where lol. Firefly break was 800k and Gallagher is 200k. Its understandable both would do damage in Super Break since both scales with BE.

@@Doflaminguard prety crazy damage for a healer LUL

He probably will make when later beta version comes out. It's still v1 so relax.

@@detectivesparkle okk, just asking ^^

The thing about Firefly is that she's a Break Effect meta. Meaning she's only focused on BE dmg. What people don't understand about Firefly & HMC is that both of em are very compatible bcs of Super Break(SB). HMC provides the SB mechanic to Firefly and Firefly simply makes it stronger Bcs in SB formula, the dmg of SB is scales from a character's BE, Def ignores/multiplier, how much toughness dmg, vulnerability multiplier, and how much Res penetration/multiplier. And Firefly has Def ignore, Res penetration, vulnerability multiplier, and huge BE. If you compare her SB with other DPS's SB such as Jingliu. Firefly's SB would deal bigger damage

@@plang-plang5035 I'm planing on saving anyway, if she happens to be great I'll pull her and her S1. I'd rather not get too excited over leaks, some details may change

@@Pilques they will probably release more BE meta characters that would be compatible with her in the future

@@plang-plang5035 so basically you are pulling for a main dps to support your harmony char?

@@darkdb4886 As long as the enemy is dead, then yes.

check his latest run, this comment didn't age well

​​​@@detectivesparkleI checked his latest vid so it's a boothill vid. I don't see why my comment didn't age well. So is AS made for the hunt path? Obviously no, you just assume it's for the hunt path, AS is made for all the paths not just hunt like pure fiction for erudition. In fact when they release a new boss like the swarm or the sunday boss on AS, your comment won't age well.

clearly not 'for' the path. if u have dhil or jingliu or pretty much meta dps u probably can clear it fine. AS is just to promote the hunt path, to convince people to pull Boothill.

Who said that? It just favours it

I'm seeing AV numbers on the side so the lower AV the lower the score or star I think. The faster you clear the more stars you get kinda like MoC. Seeing cocolia has a fat amount of shields, BE teams would be great here, follow up comp or teams with advance forwards to break that shield. And once you break, the damage is inflated. Kinda fun mode excited to see more bosses.

Even if so, hopefully it won't make me miss out on a lot of jades. I can't afford to build more teams

@@oIIified let's hope that it will be easier than moc.

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FF is all the hype right now

Because almost everyone is more interested in Firefly than Bootyhole(at least for now)

@@geh7096 whose? your or your mom's?

No, Ruan Mei is mandatory

Asta would be a F2P replacement, but the damage numbers will fall.

​@@TheH1st0ry Bronya/Sparkle can be a good replacement too. And the damage won't fall for a lot yk?

​@@artempukas5096keyword here is "f2p"

​​@@artempukas5096 the damage will fall since they don't have defense shred or resistance shred in their kits (except sparkle e2), which is what break needs. Also, RM helps to break faster. That being said, the attack buffs from hanabi or bronya would help a bit since firefly has attack conversion in her kit.

bro firefly & boothill scales of break effect so why build them crit, it's like building kafka crit build even tho attack and speed more favors her

​@@orangeforeveryOneFirefly's BE multiplier caps out at 360% anyway, and the BE scaling can still crit.

@@ralfian0234 then she's hard to build her stats will scatter

@@orangeforeveryOne I mean once FF reaches 360% BE and 180 SPD during ult, further BE has diminishing returns; these stats are also easy to get as long as you have Ruan Mei and S1 LC. Also crit with 250% BE won't be reliant on HTB, even though it's harder to build than full break.

Bro thinks light cone isn't realistic lmfao

relax, the lc is not that all

Relax, this is not genshin impact - you can realistically acquire signature LC if you're smart with your jade

@@manbearpigsereal yes It's not realistic, the vast majority of players are not spenders, and most of the times they prefer to save their gems for characters over a signature lc

@@festivefruta Oh, so her need for a 360% Break Effect to ignore 40% Defense while her LC offers 60% is "irrelevant"? Okay, sure... And don't twist my words into me hating on FireFly. I simply wanted to see a showcase without her LC, that's all.

She has. But it is a private server, that's why she doesn't have it here

beta characters do not have theirs voicelines in the beta so 🤷

@@goldbane mhm.

private servers usually don't have voices for new characters for some reason

​@@MaqsoProbably not a priority

don't worry, she got makima's voice actor

@@chubura1oh god yes

gallagher gives a break dmg boost with his ult along with the healing needed for her

Sub dps + Sustain + help break enemies,

he also deals good AOE super break damage with his ult

There’s still no reason for me to pull and build Hunt characters I guess. Having DHIL, JL, and soon FF/Sam, gotta stick to what works best.

​@@blade_replayspull whatever you like sir

It only makes sense for gallager but not the others

to take advantage of action advance for example always basic before gallaghers ult to get an additional sp

For HTB it’s so that DDD can benefit her. If you use her ult on her turn before she acts she doesn’t get action advanced.

Gallegher and Firefly has 100% advance on ult so they don't lose out on any energy. It's just a free basic/skill for a bit of additional damage.

Do you look at leaks or play the game often?

Depends on the final implementation. To me it seems okayish. They clearly seemed to have designed the HMC to help with the new game mode. Meaning if you have at least 1 built/busted team, you may not really feel it if you can build a 2nd team with HMC.

I mean it pretty obviously they want us to us Acheron, Firefly and Bothill.

to be fair if you haven't at least pulled for something in the past 3-4 months, what're you even saving for?

@@SeanTheShinigami they saving for E6S5 Nanook

@@SeanTheShinigami Sunday saver be like:

of course with a sparkle that happens to be a promotional one while firefly does it with a free characte🤫

The thing about Firefly is that she's a Break Effect meta. Meaning she's only focused on BE dmg. What people don't understand about Firefly & HMC is that both of em are very compatible bcs of Super Break(SB). HMC provides the SB mechanic to Firefly and Firefly simply makes it stronger Bcs in SB formula, the dmg of SB is scales from a character's BE, Def ignores/multiplier, how much toughness dmg, vulnerability multiplier, and how much Res penetration/multiplier. And Firefly has Def ignore, Res penetration, vulnerability multiplier, and huge BE. If you compare her SB with other dps such as Jingliu. Firefly's SB would deal bigger damage. This BE meta is still new and introduced to us with Firefly, same thing with how they introduced us DoT meta with Kafka

@@brayanvera9267 her dmg falls hard without ruan mei too LOL and she is not a freakin free

​@@taru5156 The majority who know about the game have Ruan Mei, but the other % are idiots

@@taru5156 tbf, if you have been playing for a while and skip Ruan mei's banner, LMAO ur loss

in what way is hunt a joke lol

Boothill nah id win.. Muddle fudger

Seriously people really need to read more about "destruction" path description, firefly already fit destruction characters since she does damage while having so freaking many survivability compared to others, of course there's a price that's need to pay... You guys expect firefly to deal constant damage like Danil with sparkle while having so many survivabilities ? You guys expect firefly to be boothill but blast while having so many survivabilities too ?

@@YokeKevin that's literally so cope The hp mechanic literally doesn't do anything for her, and at the end you need a sustain for her anyways. Unlike Boothill whose so strong he doesn't even need a sustain or hp mechanic to clear moc