My Problem with G5 My Little Pony (Critique, Redesign, & Fun Facts!)
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00:00 Intro
02:08 Symphony of the Sojourn
03:27 Tell Your Tale
05:54 Elsa Face
07:43 The Toys
10:49 Redesign
18:16 Sunny Fun Facts
23:18 Final Looks + Outro
my little pony friendship is magic redesign sunny starscout g5
HELP?? I’m the artist behind the “mane six in g2 artstyle” drawings, glad they could work as good inspo for your redesign!
OMG HI I LOVED YOUR ART
@@callimara and i love your design!!! :D tysm for the little shoutout teehee :3c
This is incredibly sweet.
THATS YOU??? I SAW THEM AND THYRE SO CUTE
Omg I reblogged your art on tumblr! Love your style :)
"Zag studios kept using my plot points" honestly a flex
I honestly don't doubt this statement, but can we have some examples?
@@BirthweenBoi It's callimara not calamari.
@@BirthweenBoi So you're just gonna use her name, wrong, okay, I got it. 👍🏾Ignorant fool.
@@BirthweenBoiyou mad weird for that
@@BirthweenBoiew.
Calimara’s in her MLP era and as someone who never had a MLP phase, I’m all here for it
I want her to make more Miraculous type shit
24:42 I remember seeing an animation that gave a unicorn forward facing eyes on purpose to give an uncanny feeling and imply that it was a predator
kzhead.info/sun/mbCberqwr6indYk/bejne.htmlsi=rKBudAzOh9NKONJG This one
Lol. When you said that, I thought of that exact animation.
@@rat_in_a_bucket same braincell!!
NOW THAT WORKS BC OF THE CONTEXT.
Do you remember the name or anything? I’d love to watch that, it sounds cool
They look like when you aks someone who never drew a horse to draw a horse without reference, so they just do what they do for people, but with a snout
I recognize that unicorn! It's "Lady Amalthea" or just Unicorn from the Last Unicorn! Such a great animation, I really need to read the book series, thanks for reminding me. Neat to think that the Animation Studio that worked on The Last Unicorn eventually went defunct and basically half of it became Studio Ghibli, the other half was eventually bought by Disney and became Walt Disney Animation Japan, which of course closed back in 2004. This random information is provided to you by my brain. :3 It's a weird place.
I had no idea that it was basically studio ghibli! Or even Japanese for that matter Cool! Thanks for the random info!
Goddd I loved that movie growing up
MLP in the 1980s: *cutesy pastel colored magical ponies* MLP in the 2020s: *horrible brightly colored human/pony chimera abominations*
When I first saw Sunnys design I honestly thought she was a modern version of G3.5 Scootaloo. I love the incorporation of the G2 artstyle. It suprizingly works really well for the g5 characters. It would be so cool to see a revival of the G2 artstyle in modern day. For the show that never aired.
Honestly, the new gen made me sad, I grew up on MLP, and when I watched the new movie for nostalgias sake, I felt an unbridled amount of sadness. Knowing that spike was still alive and twilight might be, broke my heart. Just imagining all the main 6(7, spike) growing old, and spike and twilight being alone, broke my inner childs heart.
Interestingly, the writer of G4 said that Twillight IS not immortal as an alicorn, and her lifespan wouldn't be much longer than the average pony. She wouldn't outlive all her friends (at least not by an amount of time that wouldn't be possible otherwise). So the writers of G5 just have thrown established canon completely out of the window. But at the same time, they want to stick to G5 being a sequel. xD
3:56 You have just PERFECTLY explained why I also hate the red panda design from Turning Red!! I could never put my finger on why I hated the face. Red panda muzzles are white, and Mei’s panda design has the mouth tucked under the white like it’s a mustache lmao
If callimara has fans, I'm one of them If she only has one, I'm one of them If she's not, I don't exist
Omg... the last unicorn was a staple in my childhood, even though it was considered "girly". I knew all the lyrics to The Last Unicorn by America, and I loved the book as a kid too. I thought the story and art style was charming, and not a lot of other boys watched it. Also, as a new author I appreciate you giving support to other small authors! Keep it up ❤
From one author to another, do you have any works available that I could check out? Thanks for the kind words!
I went from 'they aint that bad' to 'I HATE THEIR MOUTHS I HATE THEIR MOUTHS' in like five seconds.
G5’s relationship to G4 is like that of Rise of the TMNT’s relationship with TMNT 2012 save for the fact that Rise grew a sizable fandom once it found its footing. Both G5 and ROTTMNT came off of incredibly successful media that had a huge following young and old and ended up suffering due to how closely released they were to their predecessors’ finales and how hard they diverged from past media. At least Rise can stand on its own and has style and substance- all I’ve seen out of G5 is a show trying to pass itself off as Friendship is Magic 2 with none of the charm or heart that made FIM work.
me personally my problem with G5 is that in the 2D art style the faces look really weird and give me a uncanny valley vibe With ROTTMNT I don't get that uncanny valley vibe with the faces
Should've compared G5 to the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy instead.
I havent watched this yet but omg justice for Gen 5 mlp 😭 had so much potential but it flopped so HARD
G1 and 3 had super cute face shapes, I wish we could have a more horsey face shape, even though I love the g4 style
1:31 ZAG STUDIO REALLY STOLL YOUR PLOT POINTS? What a flex 😅✨💅 making miraculous laddybutt better !
"Visually objectionable" is such a good phrase. Gonna borrow that!
THE COOKIE RUN BACKGROUND THEME!!!!!!
I thought I was the only one who realized that 😭
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AS SOON AS I HEARD IT I GOT SO EXCITED
3:10 me too, sister. I sit very still when I read. To be honest I never really cared much for G5, having grown up on G4 but I like your redesign better. I like all your pony redesigns
Thanks for the kind words, Callimara! Happy to be a part of a video that you clearly put a lot of passion into.
I was legit like wait is she going to draw Sunny Last unicorn style? i was kinda excited not gonna lie. but I also love, love your drawing of Amalthea so it's a win, win.
I feel like G5 just narrowly dodged flopping as hard as G2 did. And that part of that could be due to how Hasbro didn't make the ponies look like ponies. Plus. I feel like, at least in terms of the movie, they tried to copy Lauren Faust's idea of making the ponies go on an adventure. Albeit in a bit of a more toned down way in comparison to G4. And didn't quite stick the landing completely. There's a few other reasons why I feel G5 didn't do so well. But I'm not trying to write an entire essay in a comment, lol. So I might make my own G5 redesign and rewrite (potentially including it's own show bible but idk).
The movie was good and a good set up for the show. The show wasn't, here is what I would have done for the show one there is still prejudice around the world to solve two bringing back magic awakened some bad guy twilight fought 1 thousand years ago, Sprout is his henchmen
Lauren didn't create the idea of "My Little Pony" characters going on an adventure. The original cartoon was an adventure show through and through.
@@Corrector1 Ig the movie felt similar-ish to G4's second episode, Friendship Is Magic Part 2, in some aspects to me. It's hard to explain: But if I'm correct, then most of the earlier generations focused on villains that weren't ponies. Tirek, the smooze, Catrina, & the witches (with the witches being the first villains). Plus. I don't really think there was ever anything completely similar to the elements of harmony in any of the previous generations. Aside from the Rainbow Of Light. Meanwhile in the start of G4 & G5. Both shows have crystals that get their powers from ponies coming together (friendship/ unity), they both had a pony as their first villain (Sprout & Nightmare Moon both of which were jealous of their siblings), and the ponies defeated the main villain with the power of friendship (coming mostly from the main cast). But maybe it's just me who felt like those two are similar.
Now that you mentioned, I remember that the G4 ponies have similar faces to this new G5 style but only when they face forward
I don't normally comment on videos very much, but I just have one thing to say: THANK YOU OMG! When I saw Tell Your Tale, I was so put off by it because of the art style. No offense to people that like shows with this style but, I personally find it SO UGLY! It's nice to see someone share the same critiques I had of Gen 5, even though I freely admit I enjoy the 3D animated stuff (and Izzy and Pipp are easily my favorite characters). I know it's tradition and all to reboot the franchise every decade, but I feel like Gen 5 needed A LOT more TLC before it was released, maybe it wouldn't have suffered so much (same opinion I have of Miraculous actually, although it could've used a different lead writer and whatnot too).
7:52 this is a generalization rather than a hard-and-fast rule. I definitely agree that giving them forward facing eyes made them look a bit weird & un-pony-like, but Panda Bears, frugivorous monkeys, &, most notably, the MOST herbivorous animal I can think of, Koalas, all have forward-facing eyes despite not being hunters. There are many reasons an animal might need binocular vision, hunting is just the most _common._
The Amalthea drawing is kickass by the way, I feel like that needs to be mentioned.
Just started watching the video and I'm already blessed with a speedpaint of The Last Unicorn. I love that movie 💖
I HEAR COOKIE RUN MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND!! (Timeless Ballroom Lobby Theme)
Ever since I learned to use illustrator, I could never use vector layers in other drawing apps
Seriously! Except that I am broke, so I use Inkscape, it's a lot of a learning curve, but once you get it it's totally doable, I've made some intense artwork in it. Although do not expect your lines to look the way you want when you draw them, you have to adjust them, still far easier that what I saw here...😆
I love your art here! Very reminiscent of The Last Unicorn. Edit: oh you were actually drawing The Last Unicorn when I commented this, my bad 😂 I thought that was becoming Sunny.
Ur videos are so good! I rlly love redesigns and hearing the artists thoughts but yours are so much better because not only do I hear the thoughts on the new design, but also a lot more perspective on the original and how it looks to a professional artist. My untrained eye judges character design by if I think they are pretty. Yk, like any normal person. You tell us what you think about colorpallets, shape language, line art, and all that stuff and how it affects the show and why the producers might have done it. It’s so interesting to hear! Great video, keep it going
My problems with G5 are that: 1) It completely ignores the fact that the three pony tribes have intermingled and had babies with one another. It's been confirmed in G4's "Baby Cakes"! Like, what happened to them after the tribes split? And what happened to ponies born within tribes outside their own? Did their parents leave with them and found an inter-tribe village with likeminded parents? Were the babies born after the split killed at birth? 2) It made the ponies just so stupid as to start hating each other for being of different tribes at the drop of a freaking hat! It's the same problem I have with the final conflict of G4! I swear, Hasbro is stupid and greedy!
pony eugenics :(
As someone who is currently making his own MLP gen (100% from scratch) this is most intresting and a tad helpful. Thanks, Cali!
3:08 your hair is preety
I really like what you brought from the G2 style while still keeping a lot of the design philosophies we saw more of in G4. It feels really distinct while also still feeling like MLP and not "MLP at home".
9:42 Oh my goodness I remember those!!! Lookit those adorable abominations they're so cute! lol
My god the concept art looks so much better. The missed potential
For G5 they should have made it like sonic underground or one piece . Have the world of Equestria be ruled by a bad guy and the ponys go around teaching ponies about freindship I think you an keep the cute friendship messages against a evil ruler. I like the message of the movie that over time things detreated. The elements of harmony going to town to town liberating them would have been cool.
that premise sounds really cool!
@@maninanikittycat4238 In Saudi ariba dancing is a crime I think singing and dancing being a crime in Equestria that the element of laughter pony ignores would be cool.
@@daraghokane4236 or maybe a pony representing the element of laughter is a jokester type who's optimistic
Me sitting there thinking your design looked a lot like The Last Unicorn and then seeing you pull up a picture of it for reference! 😆Love that movie!
I had to go back like 3 minutes because I was so excited to see a The Last Unicorn drawing I didn't pay attention LMAO That movie was my childhood, and it made a rlly meaningful bond between my dad and I :) I still listen to the songs and everything
I love your take on updating the G2 style!! Your Sunny is so cute. I agree completely about what you said about their muzzles; I feel like taking an animal series and humanizing them too much is sort of disregarding the reason they’re animals to begin with
literally one of, if not my absolute favorite youtube channel. talks about art, things i love, good critiques, teaches me about story. i love your content!
If you want to keep your vector layer and color it, you can make a layer above the vector and clip it to the vector layer. It's a bit of a workaround, but it's the method I use to color vector layers
hiii im a newbie at digital art, what does vector layer mean?
@@littlepuppy6822 A vector layer is a type of layer in Clip Studio Paint that uses vector drawing. Vector drawing is basically using mathematics to create a line or shape (sort of like equations in geometry and trigonometry). You make those shapes using points, lines, curves, and angles instead of editing pixels on a canvas. Non-vector drawing is usually referred to as "bitmap" drawing, and is more similar to traditional art where you add media to a canvas. A simple version of this is like the line and curve tools in mspaint, you place a point and then place another point and the tool's equation draws a perfectly straight line between them. More advanced programs like the one in this video can save those points and render that line in real time, so you can go back and edit them, changing things like line width, brush type, corner type, and number and location of points. Vector graphics are used a lot in graphic design and computer animation because once you get the shapes made they can be made as big or small as you need them and still look just as sharp, and you can use things like nested layers and shape keys to automate a lot of animation and motion graphics. When people refer to "flash puppets/flash animation" they are talking about using vector drawing for animation (an early consumer program that used this technology was Adobe Flash, though I think G4 my little pony used mainly toonboom iirc.) It's a little intimidating to get started but most modern drawing programs offer some variety of vector drawing, like Photoshop's pen tool, or CSP's vector layers. They can be a HUGE help for precision work like lineart so I recommend learning a bit about the vector tools in your digital art program of choice! (Also sorry for the essay, I hope this helped!)
If you keep your lineart layer a vector layer, you can color the lineart so much easier by just selecting the lines and changing the color through layer settings. I learned that from the creator of Weirdogs and it improved my workflow!
Please do a tutorial that goes deeper into the elements of digital art because I’ve just been using ibis paint without knowing ANYTHING about said mumbo jumbo 😭😭😭
14:30 g3.5 started the hairstyles thing tho
never commented on a sponsor before but that book actually sounds really cool
Thanks so much! I really hope you give it a shot :)
Lineart video would be incredible, your art is so pretty
no one talks about The Last Unicorn and this made me happy to see you drawing her
Wow, that's great that you used Amalthea as a reference. It looks beautiful! I've always felt like Amalthea was the most fantastical looking unicorn design.
One thing I will say is that the actual designs versus the concept ones appear to feature more body diversity between each individual pony, which I do find to be appealing and a nice new direction for the show as opposed to the cardboard cut out copies that the g4 ponies were of each other.
I looked at the concept art and I wish that was sunny it shows so much character and the style is perfection
I would love to see the way you draw line art! Always cool to see all the various things that artists do different from each other.
I love the little touch of CROB music on the background Time stamps if someone is interested 0:00 Isle of memories main screen 6:41 Fragant Lotus Paradise main screen theme 8:30 Escape from the Oven - Stage 2-7. Moonlit Night Sea 13:41 Lost City of Sugarteara - Stage 2. Sea Turtle Cove 16:03 Friendly Run (i think) stage selection menu 17:44 ??? 21:01 Cocoa Cookie Trial
I don't hate G5, but calling a special episode Starlight Secrets with the colors of the original Starlight from G4 and not saying much about the episode until it was released was not a good move, and there was no way they wouldn't expect that people would have expectations about seeing something with the real Starlight or something about G4 in in general. They put themselves in a situation where they shouldn't go too deep into the history of G4 because this is supposed to be a new generation, but they also can't ignore G4 because G5 is also a continuation of G4 and fans definitely want to know what happened. Of course they have a lot of expectations because G4 was so big, but still, one of the reasons G4 was so good was because it was different from other generations and didn't have direct connections and wasn't a continuation of the events of the past generation.
Well, yeah, we sorta have the right to be mad that they (definitely deliberately) baited us with that special.
I like that G4 starts 1 thousand years from Celestials adventures and G5 starts 1 thousand years from Twilights adventure. I prefer it being a continuation then a reboot how the old world fell apart could be a good story
When you moved the human forms face onto the pony body i cant unsee it now-
You don’t a video on line art sounds great! I’ve been watching Tale your tale and I HATED the designs but your artstyle made it 10x better!
11:06 as soon as I heard the Cookie Run music I nearly went feral with excitement. I love that game
THE WHOLE VIDEO HAD COOKIE RUN MUSICCCC
girlie pop, i could not handle being THAT still when i read for even a minute, i would die 😭😭
I'm so glad to see you making a lighthearted video!!!
When I first saw the designs for the G5 ponies, I was just really weirded out. While, yes, I was really used to the G4 style, that does not mean that I wouldn’t have liked the new designs, but now they’re just kind of weird. I honestly am kind of all for different kinds of art styles/designs and stuff, but I honestly don’t like the G5 MLP designs. Whenever I look at them, I just feel like something is really wrong and weird. (Also, really like the Cookie Run music in the background 👍)
Completely off topic but do you use cookie run music for background? Love ur art btw :)
I recognize almost every song😅
Yeah, it means that she's still a cookie run fan even after she didn't make anymore videos about cookie run for a long time.
I had no idea that eye placement had something to do with predators and prey, that’s pretty cool information that i wouldn’t have expected to learn from a mlp video
Haven’t really seen G5 but I love seeing takes like this.
oh my god the new toys are just horrendous 💀
So cute!! I love the G2 inspiration!
the last unicorn desighn choice, nice
The design at 10:49 is so pretty. It looks like something you would find in a Studio Ghibli or classic Disney movie (back when Disney made good movies ofc though) The sunny starscout redesign reminds me of the older mlp gens style. Its very cute and nosalgic too. ❤
Yeah, the g5 designs weird me out. The front of the face eyes, how the snouts don’t work properly, it’s all so creepy. It’s offputting. There’s a reason G3 has my favorite proportions. It’s because it distinctly looks like a horse. Also yeah, the artist who did the mane 6 in the g2 style I follow their stuff on twitter too and it’s super cute. Top notch video as always, Calli. Thanks for putting words to what I’ve been thinking this entire time. I wish G5 would’ve kept them looking actually horselike. Like they could’ve looked at the horse art from other shows and used that as a model. Or idk kept them in line with the art style of the original artist they had create the designs. Just something. Anything. Keep up the good work, always enjoy the dive in your pond.
Hearing timekeeper's theme as soon as the video starts was nuts
Your redesign is so cute I would've love to see sunny in the french braid even if it isn't what her hair normally is!
I've always thought it was strange that modern animation is so simple and flat with more limited movement when the older hand drawn animated shows and movies were so much more detailed and expressive.
You can actually change the line color in vector layers. Just use the 'Object" tool to select the lines, then under "Tool Properties" go to "Main color". Then you can select/change the color of the lines selected!
You did a WONDERFUL job here!! 🥰
Sunny turned out beautiful! Now I kinda wanna see what you’d do either Pipp
11:53 eeeeeeee this is too cute I'm getting cute aggression
Was not expecting to get hit with a nostalgia train that I can't actually remember when you flashed the gen 2 ponies on screen. I wasn't a huge mlp fan ...ever... but we must have had a couple of dolls and maybe a book or something cause wow! Those shapes were hittin something in my brain, but I don't know what!
12:52 big sparkly eyes aren’t my personal favourite thing in art, i think very small flat colour eyes are cuter, closer to the make your mark drafts, but i cant imagine my little ponies with small undetailed eyes… i appreciate you bringing back gen 2 style since i have a nostalgia for them growing up
This is really good. May I ask which art website that you are doing on here?
New video yay ❤❤❤
Ohhh, pretty horse! :D That's a pony doll I'd like to buy and draw
Off topic...CROB BACKGROUND MUSIC? I LOVE
I was drawing and noticed it in the background It's essentially a calling card to me
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Okay but you mentioning the fact predators have front facing eyes is making WAY too many horror au ideas pop into my mind
SAME. The faces are too human. 😅
Wow Sunny's name became offical on my i think 14th birthday or 13th ❤thats cool
I was thinking of doing this the same day this was posted loll
the thing I hate is the lips on the 3d models. I feel like its all i can see...
Also regarding the forward facing eyes, they're also found in tree-climbing animals like monkeys, in order to more accurately judge the distance between branches This could imply the ponies of G5 have an evolutionary history in trees, using their hooves like... suction cups or smth? Lmao idk
Please do an equestria girls redesign. I’ve recently seen a lot of artists do that so I would like to see your take on it if that’s cool with you
Side rant but Girl you are so pretty aahhhh-😭😭❤❤❤❤
im guessing mlp probably looked more painterly because it probably was painted before, you know with cels and all that
I love your design of MLP G5.
aye, im on the early train!
G1 ponies don’t have articulated necks. The reason the head is separate to the body is more likely to be for inserting the tail into the body.
I would have been so obsessed with g5 if they went with the other concepts u showed
Aaa why do the canon Gen5 ponies look like they have human faces💀 Did they learn nothing from the live action Cats movie🤣
Cookie run bg music!!! :DDD nice video!
Who’s Zip supposed to be? because Izzy = Mable pines, sunny 😎 = Star butterfly 🦋, Hitch = Peter Griffin? And pipp = Steven universe. But who’s Zip supposed to be?
Ngl the first horse in the back reminded me of the last unicorn, it might just be her straight up lol- I can’t tell