VR6 Turbo Build, Must Do's.

2023 ж. 14 Жел.
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Here are some things to consider when building a VR6 Turbo setup. Whether it's a 12V, 24V, 3.2, or 3.6 VR6 this covers a lot of the necessities when turboing a VR6. From headspacer, rods, pistons, valvetrain... what's needed and at what power level.
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  • Just a note on the pistons: the reason they blow ringlands like that is due to the very tight stock ring gap. Lots of guys havs really good results using stock pistons with wider ring gaps in the high .020" and low .030" ranges. With the stock gap of .015" pump gas is just too much heat for them at the 500+ mark, and they but together.

    @Saltyoldguy-@Saltyoldguy-5 ай бұрын
    • Agreed (to an extent lol), we've done it and still had issues. It really comes down to the fuel being used. The real answer is keeping the knock out.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports For sure. I do see a surprising amount of people running genuinely 600whp through bone stock motors on full e85 and doing it for a long time. Whether or not they have blown ring lands and send it anyway I'm not really sure lol. But like you said, the main key is keeping heat and knock away.

      @Saltyoldguy-@Saltyoldguy-5 ай бұрын
    • Fully agree with you, running boost on std ring gap is playing with fire it WILL break the ring glands it just a matter of time even on a forged piston 🏁

      @Aladinscave@Aladinscave5 ай бұрын
    • Why use stock rods might Aswell throw some aftermarket since ur there

      @justynnoss2786@justynnoss27865 ай бұрын
    • agreed, mine mad 602whp on pump e85 on a stock piston and rod setup

      @brandonvrt2285@brandonvrt22853 ай бұрын
  • Can't wait to see you push the stock VR. You should call it the VRTurd.

    @mattlarson9897@mattlarson98975 ай бұрын
  • The VR6 is one of my all time favorite engines. They just sound so good with a high flow exhaust.

    @byronn.2885@byronn.28855 ай бұрын
    • Way better than any of the popular i6 engines

      @sursomsatan1225@sursomsatan12255 ай бұрын
  • LOVE WHAT YOU DO !

    @danielweinbaum@danielweinbaum5 ай бұрын
  • respect from New Brunswick! Looking forward to swinging on down sometime and checking you guys out in person. Thanks so much!

    @nukesploder@nukesploder5 ай бұрын
  • Now we're in my wheelhouse 💪. My stock rods lasted until 30psi, 20* of timing, on e85, and borg s366. So approx 600-700 wtq is the limit or stock rods. Stock pistons are good to about 600whp with them being gapped to roughly 0.025". Anything more and you need aftermarket forged. When tuning, keeping it a point or two on the rich side and will save the hot cylinders. A head spacer/low conpression pistons are only necessary when using pump gas. E85 does not need lowered compression so you get to keep low-end torque when using corn juice. The mk3 12v vr6 has a FIBER head gasket and MUST be replaced if turboing. It will not hold pressure well. While the head is out, put new valve seals in and HD springs.

    @lorddrako1990@lorddrako19905 ай бұрын
    • what about a 3.6 if you would know

      @williamhall7446@williamhall74465 ай бұрын
    • ​@@williamhall7446 3.6 is direct injected with high compression. Not the best recepie for a reliable turbo build.

      @patriklenck1735@patriklenck17355 ай бұрын
    • when they do get built though it makes an insane amount of power idk all that is done to the cars to make them reliable with that power but all the videos the car is a daily driver most the time even with the insane power @@patriklenck1735

      @williamhall7446@williamhall74464 ай бұрын
    • We’re you referring to 12 or 24v? Besides the last comment

      @SimplicityFab@SimplicityFab2 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for this video🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    @isaacallen7102@isaacallen71025 ай бұрын
  • Right up my alley. I'm building one now....

    @jdubsvr6@jdubsvr65 ай бұрын
  • I appreciate this video Bullikid

    @BulliKid@BulliKid5 ай бұрын
  • Let's Gooooooooo boys!!! Hell yeah. Another super dope video. The videos are getting better and better. So much knowledge. Thank you and the team for all the hard work. I think I commented on a video or 2 back asking you guys to build vr6 and my prayers were answered 🤣 can't wait to watch all the episodes.

    @Jimmy2Times702@Jimmy2Times7025 ай бұрын
  • Appreciation from the U.K.!

    @TimLemonn@TimLemonnАй бұрын
  • Thanks guys ❤👏👏👏

    @rayrusso4138@rayrusso41385 ай бұрын
  • Would you guys ever consider making videos recording the process of building an engine? Kind of like what humble mechanic does, I think you'd provide a lot of great info for people building their engines

    @masonzizovski449@masonzizovski4495 ай бұрын
    • If we get as many subs as Humble Ill be more than happy too. Lol

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @COMotorsports Builds for a purpose like a budget build to go racing etc brings views from people who aren't as nerdy about all the internal details of engines. Go challenge the beard :D

      @sursomsatan1225@sursomsatan12255 ай бұрын
    • @@sursomsatan1225 Agreed! That's the stuff humble never really talks about, could be very useful

      @masonzizovski449@masonzizovski4495 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsportsI would pay for a full-build course alla’ Horse Power Academy

      @Kevin_MK7RSR@Kevin_MK7RSR5 ай бұрын
    • ​@@COMotorsportsyou ever think about a build on patreon or members only KZhead? I'd gladly throw out a few bucks for an in depth engine build.

      @greapsoho@greapsoho3 ай бұрын
  • Turbo vr6s sound insane

    @bpturbo27@bpturbo275 ай бұрын
  • I'm in the process of boosting my VR5, here in Canada. Pretty straight forward

    @jessytremblay3867@jessytremblay38675 ай бұрын
  • Looking forward to the day the 3.2 I have sitting gets some lovin

    @sleazydubzz@sleazydubzz5 ай бұрын
  • Great video. Can't wait to boost my vr. Pistons aren't in the budget unfortunately but I will be running a head spacer with arp rod bolts and head studs. I got my hands on unitronic bt630 so I guess we'll see how that does for now. Thankfully I have access to petro 94

    @Daryll_Flaro@Daryll_Flaro5 ай бұрын
  • vr6 hooptie.. yeah go for it!

    @Bluepower20vt@Bluepower20vt5 ай бұрын
  • Hell yeah I can’t wait to see a vr pushed to the limit 🤙

    @ChastonPierce@ChastonPierce5 ай бұрын
  • We need a much longer video with some brand specifics for build parts. Really enjoy hearing your guy's opinions and what has TRULY worked for you on the dyno. Thanks Guys!!

    @MECHANICCHRIS@MECHANICCHRIS4 ай бұрын
    • Do some research instead of regurgitating someone else’s opinion. None of this is factual. At all. Lolol.

      @LOTEK575@LOTEK575Ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@LOTEK575a lot of it is factual, i kinda get what you mean like a lot of it is just opinions and preferences but saying NONE of this is factual is really making you look silly

      @braydonweddle9634@braydonweddle963422 күн бұрын
  • Really appreciate you fellas getting this out. Any notes on 2618 pistons with regard to drivability, cylinder wall wear, or piston longevity?

    @acefighterpilot@acefighterpilot5 ай бұрын
  • Good video. I am about to embark on a 550WHP (approx) 3.2 into a 2001 S4 B5 manual. Learned a lot and will do rods, pistons and a good head. Flywheel and adapter is probably the single biggest $$$. Probably go with Holset Cummins turbo at around 18-22 boost. Pick N Pull has my motor for $349CDN complete from Toureg.

    @barrytunzelmann6010@barrytunzelmann60102 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Question though, have you guys actually seen any situations where the stock rod bolts were the initial breaking point in a turbo VR6 build? The reason I ask is that theoretically speaking, the instant of maximum strain on a rod bolt is at TDC on the exhaust stroke. When you add boost, the backpressure in the exhaust port in front of the turbine wheel, and the incoming boost itself depending on overlap, actually cushions the piston at TDC on the exhaust stroke, thus reducing strain on the rod bolts. Presumably you might also add to the top end of the RPM range with the help of boost, so that adds strain to the rod bolts, but I don't know at what point the strain forces actually become higher than they were with the factory N/A configuration. I suspect that rod bolts really aren't necessary at all in a turbo setup like they would be in an aggressive all-motor setup.

    @tptrsn@tptrsn5 ай бұрын
  • hell yeah I want to see the VR hoopty.....😮

    @robkoch2485@robkoch24854 ай бұрын
  • Just want to add, you can use stock head bolts with a head spacer. HPA uses them even with a 5mm head spacer plus 2 full gaskets, and have had no lifted heads on their 780ftlb of tq builds. ARP head studs should be a requirement for 800+.

    @thirdgeargrind8033@thirdgeargrind80335 ай бұрын
  • I’ve got a mk6 golf r and im just wondering if stage 3 is really worth the money or if stage 2 plus is good enough for a daily.

    @Chitchatfpv@Chitchatfpv4 ай бұрын
  • Gr8 educational video, as always guys. Planning to go with turbo setup with one 3.2 these days, so every info is useful. Tnx.

    @GocaKresic@GocaKresic5 ай бұрын
  • I have an R36 Passat wagon coming to Edmonton in the next couple of weeks. Would love to bring it over to you guys some day... although it sounds like boosting will be quite a bit more complicated vs. the 3.2.

    @Jeremyd3sa@Jeremyd3sa2 ай бұрын
  • Excited to watch the how far a stock VR6 Will go

    @billasohyeah@billasohyeah5 ай бұрын
    • These aren’t the guys to watch.

      @LOTEK575@LOTEK575Ай бұрын
  • My dream show car is a Mk1 rabbit with a 12v VR6 with a turbo setup.

    @1859ddd@1859dddАй бұрын
  • the pistons in this video are the 2.8 24 or 12 valve ? also, are 3.2 mk4 pistons have the same weak points. ?

    @damianp.427@damianp.4275 ай бұрын
  • Hot content 🔥

    @nostalgicrip7715@nostalgicrip77154 ай бұрын
  • Is it possible for you guys to do a video on swapping a vr6 24v in a mk6 golf tdi ?

    @markchubaruk1185@markchubaruk11855 ай бұрын
  • I’ve got an A3 8P BDB motor and from what Ive read has a forged crank 🤷‍♂️ “same” motor (BUB) used in R32 IV/V. Is there a way to definitively say if the crank is cast / forged? I always was under impression it was forged and not given it a full inspection 🙈. Going with 9.25 compression JE’s with MaxSpeeding H rods (with 2000 Arp’s), plus headstuds, and adding a brace plate as well. Pretty much using HPA inlet / exhaust and BW EFR92/74 turbo, cnc ported head, Newman cams, supertech valves, EcuMaster, Deka clutch… so gone the whole hog here. Looking to run 750hp … fuel will always be 99 RON … any advice for the build to make so sure I dont trash all this expense!!!?

    @stevebez9556@stevebez95565 ай бұрын
  • In regards to the cast cranks, been in the facebook groups for almost a decade now and have seen them fail in cars. Usually upwards of 5-600+ to the wheels and experiencing detonation. Also seen a lot of experienced tuners use cast cranks in close to 4 digit builds perfectly fine. It seems the cast cranks just aren't able to hold detonation very well, which still isn't good but is different than "you can't use these ever."

    @Saltyoldguy-@Saltyoldguy-5 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for this insight. I wonder if a girdle would help hold it together

      @Dnyeal@Dnyeal5 ай бұрын
    • If you know or see of any cast crank failure stories do you mind sharing? Appreciate the info.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports Yea I can. Unfortunately Facebook is not the greatest with finding old posts. I definitely remember seeing 2-3 posts in the 2 years or so about people in BUB/MK5 motors windowing their blocks at not that crazy power levels

      @Saltyoldguy-@Saltyoldguy-5 ай бұрын
  • I have a 3.6 4 motion wagon b6 passat and i really wanna boost it but im broke lol, they hold way more and make more than a 3.2

    @williamhall7446@williamhall74465 ай бұрын
  • do the 12v cranks fit the 24v VR´s?

    @jkkribeiro9895@jkkribeiro989512 күн бұрын
  • I was planning on doing this to the vr6 corrado I had but to many problems with the car to keep up with so I ended up selling it last year.. kinda disappointed that I sold it now 😅

    @nolahahnshouse3389@nolahahnshouse33895 ай бұрын
  • I run 15psi on a Mk4 gasket and non-intercooled on a 66mm turbo, but I'm also on e85. Just found your channel. Now build an 8 valve if you really wanna steal my heart. 🤪

    @PBWB2@PBWB22 ай бұрын
    • Appreciate you joining in. As for the 8v.....hmm lol

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
  • We did get VR5s in NA

    @miltonpaniagua4070@miltonpaniagua40703 ай бұрын
  • Im building a boosted 12v in a mk2 golf right now. I'm getting close to being finished. I didn't do apr rod bolts or upgraded pistons, though. Hopefully, with the united motor sports tune I can get close to 400 wheel hp. Also got 2 spare engines and an extra transmission 😅

    @tunasub4167@tunasub41675 ай бұрын
    • E85?

      @MeltingRubberZ28@MeltingRubberZ285 ай бұрын
    • that thing should cough out 400whp easily on pump gas. mine did 400 @ 15 psi on pump gas

      @brandonvrt2285@brandonvrt22853 ай бұрын
  • Interested how you deal with the timing chain for the cams... I used a 3.15mm spacer to drop CR to 8.9:1 but it was enough of a lift to mean I had to make a couple of mods to the top chain cover and chain guide to get it to fit where it had pulled the chain up enough to make the tensioner guide catch the cover... I know on the HPA kit where it drops the CR to 7.5:1 they supply a chain with an extra link... is this something you do or anything you would recommend to do to mitigate the inevitable chain fun and games?

    @someblokeonthenet@someblokeonthenet5 ай бұрын
    • should mention its 3.2 24v VR

      @someblokeonthenet@someblokeonthenet5 ай бұрын
    • We sell/use spacers that do not require any modifications to the chains.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports ah OK... What thickness and CR are they?

      @someblokeonthenet@someblokeonthenet5 ай бұрын
  • Looking forward to watching a VR6 piston explode and a rod exit the block soon 😮

    @ukwan@ukwan4 ай бұрын
  • I wish you guys had a shop in Massachusetts. I wanna donate my 2017 gti

    @dasauto44@dasauto444 ай бұрын
  • Please do a ea113 2.0 tfsi build 🙏

    @myrx2@myrx25 ай бұрын
  • Never heard about the mk5 r32 crank cracking but I have heard from a German guy who has 1200hp turbo vr6 that he is using a crack from a 1st gen VR6 (AAA) corrado motor and mk3 gti VR6. The mk4r32 vr6 crank starts to crank at around 800whp

    @oleksandrmenko5276@oleksandrmenko52763 ай бұрын
  • I would love to see a VR5 build! I was looking for into them but there only seems to be a video in Polish and some french forums. Im sure its quite similar to the VR6 but it would be cool to see the differences and hear them turbo'd! Also question, is the 3.2 vr6 block is the same as a 2.8 block just bored out and with a larger crank stroke?

    @rayjedi@rayjedi5 ай бұрын
    • 24v have different seperation angles if that's what you mean.

      @Vexman2200@Vexman22005 ай бұрын
    • You ask i deliver😁

      @TorpedoStudios@TorpedoStudios5 ай бұрын
    • @@TorpedoStudios I did see some of your videos while doing VR5 research lol. would love to see a build on a 20v vr5!

      @rayjedi@rayjedi5 ай бұрын
    • 24v 2.8 vs 24v 3.2 I believe was the question. Same basic block?

      @RS-ve8nq@RS-ve8nq5 ай бұрын
  • For the vr6 you guys should just do a head spacer and run it on pump gas and see how far it can go.

    @yeahaight5692@yeahaight56925 ай бұрын
  • A 2004 Jetta body, some kind of 4motion AWD, a 24v VR6 making 700 horsepower, and a sequential shift transmission. Wouldn't that be a sweet package.

    @lifted_above@lifted_aboveАй бұрын
    • That's currently what I'm looking to do, minus the sequential box.

      @Dexs911@Dexs911Ай бұрын
    • @@Dexs911 Sounds like a fun project. I love a good manual, but it would be hard to deny how quick a sequential would be, without any drop in boost.

      @lifted_above@lifted_aboveАй бұрын
  • Please do boosted vr5 very interested in swapping one in my 2.slow jetta

    @DubBoizmusic@DubBoizmusic5 ай бұрын
    • We need to get one first. lol

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • You mentioned head spacers but when using forged pistons that lower compression is a head spacer still necessary? I guess a better question would be: what compression ratio is recommended for pump gas as you mentioned?

    @nicperen6814@nicperen68145 ай бұрын
    • Lower comp pistons, no need for headspacer. It's just used to lower compression.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • ​@COMotorsports The head spacer is a great option though, as it makes the VR a non interference motor. So maybe take that into account when making your purchase.

      @mikel1804@mikel18045 ай бұрын
    • never thought about the spacer reducing the interference. That is a thought. How much of a spacer would that require? @COMotorsports @@mikel1804

      @petepratt9126@petepratt91265 ай бұрын
  • Maybe you guys can give some insight. I Have a built 3.2 bottom end stock head. Did 3/8 bolts whole nine. But it does have a cast crank mk5 3.2 engine. I want to make close to 800whp. Don’t know if I should change the crank

    @gti18g@gti18g5 ай бұрын
    • I believe we discuss this in the video.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • I bought a 2.0t BPY gti engine from canada that im going to build up for my mk6 R. Im gonna do pistons rods new valve seals.. i already have ttrs lpfp modded and the vis motorsport hpfp. I got a big turbo ready to make 500+ crank hp with meth and ill need to find a clutch to hold the power.

    @haroldbutler778@haroldbutler7784 ай бұрын
    • Looking for clutch recommendations for 450ish torque range

      @haroldbutler778@haroldbutler7784 ай бұрын
    • @@haroldbutler778 We offer what you need. You can email us.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports4 ай бұрын
  • How much can the factory Intake manifold take in regards to boost? 3.2 bhe Its plastic and long but it hides the turbo view pretty well so I'm wondering if it can be used until some limit

    @krasimirdavidov4639@krasimirdavidov46395 ай бұрын
    • Haven't pushed one, I wouldn't bother the effort to build a turbo kit around something that's going to fail doesn't make sense. Cause when it fails you're redoing intake and charge piping to run a short runner.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports makes sense, after seeing how the two turbos position i'll need a short runner either way, thank you for the reply!

      @krasimirdavidov4639@krasimirdavidov46392 ай бұрын
  • Make sure you make them exhaust runners extra long 😏

    @LOTEK575@LOTEK575Ай бұрын
  • I have a Audi A3 3.2vr6 first gen, mine have forged pistonrods and stock pistons and can run fine at 750whp. I've heard the rods blow at 500hp, but pistons can take a beating. Mk5 r32 crank crack at 500hp ive heard from my tuner and vr6 engine builder

    @NeTRoMA3@NeTRoMA3Ай бұрын
    • It's reverse. Rods good pistons not so good.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports weird since mine run fine with stock pistons at 750whp for 20.000miles

      @NeTRoMA3@NeTRoMA3Ай бұрын
    • @@NeTRoMA3 👍

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
  • Hey guys if I turbo the r36 24v wagon and just do a head spacer and uprated head studs what sort of power could i make safely. And also does the r36 passat wagon come with forged pistons on stock block??

    @bleezyturbski5096@bleezyturbski5096Ай бұрын
    • How do you plan on fueling it?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
    • Errm I'm in the UK we use 95 and 99ron I'll be using 99. But fueling system, e.g injectors fuel pump etc I have no idea guys. Please could you give me some advice i am very new to this vw thing🙏🏾

      @bleezyturbski5096@bleezyturbski5096Ай бұрын
  • Please explain... why would upgrading to ARP rod bolts change the inner dimensions and require line-boring? Thanks in advance.

    @jittychitty@jittychitty4 ай бұрын
    • Different clamping force. No different then squeezing a plastic bottle

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports4 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports Thank you

      @jittychitty@jittychitty4 ай бұрын
  • Better to drop in lower compression pistons than the spacer?

    @LeandroTagudin@LeandroTagudin5 ай бұрын
    • Depends on power. 90% of VR builds really only need a spacer.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • I have a 3.6 VR6 I'm looking to boost and I can't find a headspacer anywhere. By any chance do y'all sell headspacers or know any company's selling them for the 3.6

    @josmat621@josmat6213 ай бұрын
    • do not sorry, the 3.6 is it's own beast to deal with in regards to turboing due to DI.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports3 ай бұрын
  • I have a MK4 R32 and I'm running a G30-770 turbo build. It's on a standalone and tuned on e85 at 500hp with stock bottom end/head was rebuilt. I'm curious if you have ever seen the clutch pressure plate dig into gearbox housing so bad that it cracks the housing? We installed a brand new single disc ACT clutch with ACT flywheel. I drove maybe 5 months and couldn't get the car into gear. Stock 02m gearbox and the pressure plate was digging so bad it left indents on the housing. I had it diagnosed and they suspected crank walk. Wear spec is .30mm and I measured .38mm. Would the crank walk cause that much damage to the gearbox or is that more a clutch fitment or install error? I pulled the pan to see if I had any thrust bearings or metal shavings and absolutely nothing.

    @j7d7s@j7d7sАй бұрын
    • Did you have the spacer plate in between the engine and trans, that can easily cause your issue.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports I did ask them if the spacer was present and they mentioned it wasn't. Shop told me that the spacer was too thin and wouldn't assist with causing that much damage.

      @j7d7s@j7d7sАй бұрын
    • @@j7d7s I can tell you on our drag car if it's not there it will eat the case. This is a twin setup but my point is it can make a difference depending on the setup.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports it's only a single disc clutch but it's insane that the thin metal spacer could cause the issue

      @j7d7s@j7d7sАй бұрын
    • @@j7d7s all comes down to the stack height of the clutch setup.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
  • Hi, I just bought a Audi TT 3.2 VR6. what would be the most reliable and cost effective way to get it to 400bhp mark?

    @SonOvaBoss@SonOvaBoss4 ай бұрын
    • Turbo is really the only answer

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports4 ай бұрын
  • What about the 3.6 vr6? Would you guys do a turbo 3 6 in the future? It seems like the 3.6 vr6 gets no love

    @datruth603@datruth6032 ай бұрын
    • We have one stashed, the reason you don't see many of them boosted is because they're a direct injected engine, unlike the 3.2's. So it adds a bunch of complexity when it comes to fueling and standalone.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports I see, it would be a really cool build though, hopefully 1 day you guys can pull the trigger on that.

      @datruth603@datruth6032 ай бұрын
  • Can I stock vr6 24v be turbocharged without any upgrades to the internals?

    @audi_steve8363@audi_steve83633 ай бұрын
    • Headspacer allows it to go pretty far in the power department.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports3 ай бұрын
  • A local vw enthusiast shop mentioned to me that running a double head gasket is better than a gasket/head spacer/gasket on these engines since the head spacer wouldn't "tolerate much boost". Is the two head gasket route even an option? I'm still naive and inexperienced so thank you for answering my previous question you guys are really cool

    @krasimirdavidov4639@krasimirdavidov46392 ай бұрын
    • It is possible to stack gaskets but it's just more room for error. If you look at an MLS gasket you will see it's 3 layers. The middle layer gets taken out and the spacer goes in its place which replicates a stock gasket, just thicker.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@COMotorsports Is the head spacer absolutely needed in each case or running something like JE pistons with CR 8.5 is a better option? For fueling i'm planning to get what's best at the pump + an octane booster additive most likely

      @krasimirdavidov4639@krasimirdavidov46392 ай бұрын
    • @krasimirdavidov4639 if you're doing aftermarket pistons than the headspacer is not required.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
    • I assume that was the case just want to always double confirm with experienced people. Thank you so much for replying to all my stupid questions ❤ I really appreciate the content you guys bring and time taken to reply

      @krasimirdavidov4639@krasimirdavidov46392 ай бұрын
  • No love/mention for the 2.8 24v?

    @bbkg1979@bbkg19792 ай бұрын
    • It's all applies. Headspacer for most average builds, upgraded pistons for guys wanting to push it a bit further is sort of the recipe. Doesn't matter which vr were talking about really.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports Roger that! Thank you

      @bbkg1979@bbkg19792 ай бұрын
  • Mk5 r32 when we turbo them we aim to run them at 480hp @ the crank, when there 500+ @ the crank they have a good chance the crank will let go in the long run, mk4 r32 had a forged crank and mk5 r32 had a cast crank, we have seen afew mk5 r32 cast cranks snap at 500+hp in the long run

    @jonr32turbo@jonr32turbo4 ай бұрын
    • Do you have instances of actual broken mk5 r32 cranks?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports4 ай бұрын
  • can I ask .. can you put ITBs on a vr6 ..? if so is it recommended?

    @shandrepetersen7647@shandrepetersen76475 ай бұрын
    • Of course, get the CC ready.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • yes. possible, expensive but it will sound so amazing. ITB and turbo I haven't seen anybody do that yet.. kzhead.info/sun/eKednMmwraVjjHk/bejne.html

      @Bluepower20vt@Bluepower20vt5 ай бұрын
  • Make sure you remember to do a compression test on the project VR like you wish you did on the 1.8T😂

    @MauriceEllerbee@MauriceEllerbee5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I have to on this one because I haven't heard it running. The 1.8t I at least drove it.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • Have you guys ever done a 3.6 VR6T on a Passat? Is it possible?

    @jlay25@jlay255 ай бұрын
    • I'm tryna boost my 3.6 passat

      @josmat621@josmat6213 ай бұрын
  • 44psi good, 45 psi engine very bad. But got my stock block 12v down to 8.35@157mph

    @europeanfwd@europeanfwd3 ай бұрын
  • Hey dave, im pretty sure thats my motor, ive been meaning to get in contact with you as i lost access to my other email. I hope we can have it in and pushing over 500 whp by april 😅.

    @WavidsWorld@WavidsWorld5 ай бұрын
  • 🥳👏🎉

    @AshleysLair@AshleysLair5 ай бұрын
  • Stop putting good videos out like this you're going to make me start spending money 😢

    @MeltingRubberZ28@MeltingRubberZ285 ай бұрын
    • Can't spend it when you're gone.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • U should do a budget 24v turbo build with just headspacer an turbo for us guys who want to do a budget build😅

    @janepope6327@janepope63275 ай бұрын
    • Who's budget are we using?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports i meant like using cheapish parts that are readily available, exhaust manifolds, intake, turbo, head spacer, but lets say a budget of 3-4k (yes i know this maybe unrealistic 😅)

      @janepope6327@janepope63275 ай бұрын
    • @@janepope6327 I understand, but again who's budget are we using?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • We got the VR5 2.5L in Canada but you never got it in the US ??

    @jean-philippemarion8393@jean-philippemarion83935 ай бұрын
    • We didn't get it in Canada to my knowledge.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • We definitely did not get the vr5 in Canada

      @buddysshop1860@buddysshop18605 ай бұрын
  • How does the 3.2 compare to the 3.6?

    @chrisandashleybrletich9860@chrisandashleybrletich98602 ай бұрын
    • It's bigger in many ways, and the big difference is it's direct injected.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
  • E85, Rod bolts, head bolts made mid 500s reliably for a while 💪🏻 until I pushed it harder (I wanted to test the limits of the VR)

    @albertoarriaga2297@albertoarriaga22975 ай бұрын
    • Mid 5s is effin fast

      @MeltingRubberZ28@MeltingRubberZ285 ай бұрын
    • MK5 R32?

      @jorgemendizabal6596@jorgemendizabal65965 ай бұрын
    • On E85 there's people making nearly double that on same spec.. there's loads of people making that for years on normal pump gas no issues.

      @garyhowe88@garyhowe885 ай бұрын
    • @@garyhowe88 any references? I’d love to check them out

      @albertoarriaga2297@albertoarriaga22975 ай бұрын
    • @@jorgemendizabal6596 mkiv

      @albertoarriaga2297@albertoarriaga22975 ай бұрын
  • Will OBD1 make a difference for the 12v?

    @itschefff@itschefff5 ай бұрын
    • Only in regards to tuning.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports OBD1 has to run a standalone I assume?

      @itschefff@itschefff5 ай бұрын
    • Obd1 got a bigger oem trottle body 👍

      @nick9343@nick93435 ай бұрын
  • So if you were planning on forged pistons, would it make sense to just get lower compression forged pistons and not need a head spacer?

    @dubCanuck1@dubCanuck15 ай бұрын
    • IF you need the pistons. Otherwise stock pistons are more than adequate for most 500whp builds

      @Saltyoldguy-@Saltyoldguy-5 ай бұрын
    • it depends on on the fuel you plan to run

      @E36_kidd@E36_kidd5 ай бұрын
  • The VW Mk4 R32 is my dream car. But I can’t afford one that has under 200km/125mi. What’s a better investment - get an R32 with this mileage or do $10k of mods on my stock Mk4 GTI with 240km/150mi to make it pull similar horsepower, get a body kit, paint job, new rims, & coilovers? Thanks!

    @ztzexplorer@ztzexplorer3 ай бұрын
    • If the cars in good shape, what does mileage matter?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports3 ай бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports Valid point.

      @ztzexplorer@ztzexplorer3 ай бұрын
    • tbh the biggest thing is how important is AWD to you vs FWD. If its important, the R32 is the only game in town.

      @millennialmalaise9386@millennialmalaise9386Ай бұрын
    • @@millennialmalaise9386 thanks so much

      @ztzexplorer@ztzexplorerАй бұрын
  • USA VR5 in my friends 2006 Rabbit

    @randybriscoe5084@randybriscoe50843 ай бұрын
  • “Never boosted a 3.6 yet” looking at you Alex

    @garvysgarage@garvysgarage5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah yeah yeah, it's sitting here and will end up dropped off at some point haha

      @arnick1993@arnick19935 ай бұрын
  • Whats the average cost for 500whp on a vr6 24v?

    @mikeg8494@mikeg84943 ай бұрын
    • Depends on quality of parts, labor costs in your area, how you're tuning it, what skills and tools you have.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports3 ай бұрын
  • Ho guys, pls do the turbo setup video for the 1.8t 😢

    @jacopodelleva7762@jacopodelleva77625 ай бұрын
    • No idea what you mean?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
    • its allready been done

      @kdudutse@kdudutse5 ай бұрын
  • You can boost my 3.6 Passat lol 2015 sel premium:)

    @nah4got@nah4got4 ай бұрын
  • if you go forged pistons do you need the spacer?

    @nonsense0233@nonsense0233Ай бұрын
    • No. Spacer is just a cheat to drop compression. Aftermarket pistons would be spec'd for the application.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
  • 600bhp mk5 r32 snap crank. 2.8 crank to make an R30 is the way to go here in europe

    @BEYTEK@BEYTEK5 ай бұрын
    • Can you share failures?

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
  • Get your notepad out ladies and gentlemen we're about to do some learning lmao #VRSICK 🤣

    @Jimmy2Times702@Jimmy2Times7025 ай бұрын
  • I have 07 Touareg 3.6fsi would like to put turbo and have 500- 600hp of it 😂😅....

    @dejanmeki@dejanmekiАй бұрын
    • Do it.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
    • @@COMotorsports what's the roughly price tag for it ?

      @dejanmeki@dejanmekiАй бұрын
    • @dejanmeki well there is no kit so your making a lot of it yourself, and there will be tons of billet parts required to make the parts needed. Way more than the vehicle is worth, so if that scares you, then time for another project. Lol

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsportsАй бұрын
  • I kinda disagree with what was said in the beginning. Yes knock/detonation is caused by poor tuning (this is why having a standalone is important. Failsafe would’ve saved it) but forged pistons are not gonna stop knock/detonation. I’ve seen forged blocks go just as quick. The weak link no matter what will always be rod/journal bearings. Stretched rod bolts. What I disagree with is the HP numbers. I’ve seen 800hp with just spacer and rod bolts. All on a 12v but that power is useless in a FWD car hence why most who are at that and above are usually awd. I don’t say this after building one VRT. I’ve built plenty in my 30+ yrs in the game. 23 as a shop owner. I have a VRT that’s been seeing 30 lbs of boost for 17 yrs without opening it once. Went through a few turbos and a few trans. That’s due to a good build and good tuning. My point is don’t think having forged internals with prevent these things cause they won’t. Detonation don’t give a shit what you got inside. I’ve seen a few broken ringlands on forged pistons. I’ve seen holes burned straight in the middle of the piston. It all comes down to tuning and setting the failsafes so it doesn’t get to that point. What they do is allow you to set your comp ratio better then a spacer. With the spacer you only have 9:1 & 8:1. Pistons you can do 8.5:1 and so on. It also allows for deeper valve pockets for those running big cams. (288’s and bigger). Keep up the good work guys. About time you’re touching a man’s engine. Not that crappy 4 cyl junk. 😁

    @CruzanRastamon@CruzanRastamon2 ай бұрын
    • We're talking to 99% of the people that are on YT so although you disagree these are good rules to follow for the average person. We've seen stock VRs make 1000whp that doesn't mean it's partial for the average person. Guys doing stuff like that are much like us with the 1.8t stock engine that we made 600whp. We have the means to get there safely. Regardless of which engine or how many cylinders yes of course knock/detonation will kill all of them without question.

      @COMotorsports@COMotorsports2 ай бұрын
  • A vrhooptie?!?!

    @scottricci7154@scottricci71545 ай бұрын
  • VrhoopT

    @ryank2367@ryank23675 ай бұрын
  • Ferrari have a brand but they build (like all Italians) beautiful junk. Thanks it. No engineering prowess what’s so ever. Any real car engineering company knows this.

    @michaelw4620@michaelw46202 ай бұрын
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