spartacus motors ahead on Muur van Geraardsbergen to win 2010 ronde van vlaanderen.
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Wow, Cancellara was really motoring up that climb, wasn't he?
@9Ballr9 ай бұрын
😂
@StopTheRot11 күн бұрын
tom boonen's "suffering" and "fighting the bike" is lightyears faster than I could go up that hill
@Turk3YbAstEr10 жыл бұрын
it's incredible - he is one of the elite and he is suffering at the hands of cancellara. most of us would have climbed off the bike miles before
@warrenvazquez10 жыл бұрын
Did Boonen change his gear a couple of times? There are moments when his pedal speed is lower, before the gap is growing.
@Tonytestcase5 жыл бұрын
Only way I get up that hill is by climbing off the bike
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
This actually should be put to a scientific investigation. Physicists should calculate how much (more) power you need to output to build so much advantage in a couple seconds on a steep more than 10% (average I believe it was more than 10% at this very moment). Someone who cycle anything in his life and when put this into one's head knows exactly that this situation is just iconically ridiculous.
@grzejnikMilosz8 жыл бұрын
It's like the Froome acceleration up the Ventoux in 2013. A 1000+ watt surge within a couple seconds that takes place without visible effort from the rider.
@DanielSong397 жыл бұрын
They should compare his time in the video to the Strava segment for it. If it's the same for some random strong guy doing 600 watts then it's probably legit.
@skinny557727 жыл бұрын
Just estimates out of my butt after using Zwift for so long: Boonen was probably putting out a solid 600 watts at that moment and when seeing Cancellara motor away raised that to 700-800 watts. Cancellara's distancing would make the output well over 1400 watts. That's the kind of power unleashed in a sprint, which Cancellara had no pedigree for, plus he doesn't even show strained signs of that kind of power being made.
@oldtwinsna83474 жыл бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 Cancellara actually has had top 5 finishes in bunch sprints but yeah you're not going to do 1400 watts+ there without putting in a visible effort
@DanielSong398 ай бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 please show your calculations
@dunkulusjones45644 ай бұрын
FYI, Boonen gained time on every other rider in the field in the Muur. That should give you some perspective on how fast Cancellara went up the climb.
@DanielSong396 жыл бұрын
Annemiek van Vleuten in 2020 Omloop het Nieuwsblad went faster up it than Cancellara in 2010 Ronde
@william6171 Жыл бұрын
Na hoeveel km moest Annemiek de muur op?
@jeroendekort5696 Жыл бұрын
Boonen had a gear problem, why nobody can see that?!
@Shitinthemorning Жыл бұрын
It is not the whole climb that is important here. It is that Fabian went only in the last 300 m or so and that is where it is amazing/suspiscious.
@jaysimoes3705Ай бұрын
La caméra écrase beaucoup l' image , mais pour l' avoir déja fait en VTT , c est un véritable mur , la pente est impressionnante !! Ce que fait Cancellarra est inhumain , quelque chose cloche et je m' etais deja fait la reflexion en direct
@zoulouzoulou47266 жыл бұрын
EBIKE
@mr0totonio2 жыл бұрын
il y a que 50 m à plus de 14 %, le reste à 10 % ou moins. C'est pas si terrible et le pavé est très régulier. La côte de la ferme Libert fait la même longueur mais sa moyenne est au niveau de la pire portion du Grammont. Le Koppenberg aussi est bien plus raide que le Grammont avec un pavé bien plus mauvais mais sec pas besoin d'un VTT
@simonrano807229 күн бұрын
Cancellara had a very “special” bike that day. And also in Paris-Roubaix.
@josdenis36848 ай бұрын
This was the day my hero died....
@alexp2473658 ай бұрын
Prove it or shut up.
@lucmeeussen9714Ай бұрын
Slechte verliezers
@el_vee_eeАй бұрын
@@lucmeeussen9714 close your eyes doesn't turn the light off
@oceanedetotesАй бұрын
@@lucmeeussen9714 Indeed, all this is (stupid) gossip. If you can't prove it, shut up indeed. Cancellara was an exceptional champion.
@jansnauwaert17854 күн бұрын
I used to give cancellara the benefit of the doubt. But after discovering the very very sneaky second bike change I think its very unlikely he didnt do mechanical doping. Cancellara had a mechanical issue and did a first bike chance. The main mechanic jumps out of the car and gives him a new bike. A few km's later Breschel has a real issue and requests a new bike, but the main mechanic isnt in the car anymore resulting in Breschel getting the wrong bike, losing a lot of time and never returning to the front. A few km further the images show Cancellara suddenly sitting on his original bike. What happened, at the point where cancellara did his first bike change, the stage makes a loop. The mechanic had to walk 500 meter to get on the other part of the stage. What does amateur footage reveal. In a turn everybody where makes the short turn, Cancellara goes wide where the main mechanic is waiting with the original bike and you see Cancellara do a lightning bike swap. Its a sad thing but after all these years i am convinced Cancellara cheated.
@tomvermeulen8003 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand. Why wasn't any of this caught by cameras in a race like this?
@HolgerDanske8749 ай бұрын
and there my grandson, the e-bike was born
@jellevanthuyne19842 ай бұрын
100% motor can’t believe I didn’t saw it when I watched it live in 2010
@scandinavianboys43438 ай бұрын
It’s almost like cancellara has a hidden motor in his frame.
@sparx5509 ай бұрын
All his win was with hidden electric motor.
@SSVukicАй бұрын
No one can convince me that he wasn't motorized, especially if you see also the video of Paris Roubaix of a week later...
@robertob.27722 жыл бұрын
He needed no motor to win 6 world titles in TT, when he could not have cheated.
@nicolasdelaforge74206 ай бұрын
Ahahahah the next video KZhead suggests me is "GCN - Are e-bikes fun? Road bike vs e-bike".
@Mgs94475 жыл бұрын
Well you see the difference in this video
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
As likely as QAnon
@joshschrader47323 жыл бұрын
Did Cancellara just put 30 seconds on Boonen in under a minute?
@DanielSong397 жыл бұрын
Something like that. And it can happen, I remember Froome loosing around 30-35 seconds on a climbing stage at the TdF 2017, on the last 150 meters!
@charlesjohnson92495 жыл бұрын
mega smacky Phil Gaimon troopers are here lol
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
@@dansprague2 Cancellara used a motor. It's obvious. Sadly he got away with it.
@santiagobenites5 жыл бұрын
Putting 30s on someone in 1min requires the front person to go 1/3 faster than the other. If you go twice as fast as them, then u gain more than 1min gap in 1min.
@toozydude25 жыл бұрын
Frank M Boonen was on the limit going into the climb, Cancellara waited for the steep and put the hammer down. It happens almost any year in the RVV, this year Bettiol did it to GvA and the rest of the favorites. Not really unbelievable, just racing. The fact that he never got out of the saddle is his style, and to avoid slipping on the steep cobbles while putting out 1000+W.
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mpereirawolf5 жыл бұрын
This is DOPE. both mechanical and medical.
@Sills718 ай бұрын
Well, besides that I don't buy it: you can't prove if, so shut up.
@jansnauwaert17854 күн бұрын
Watching this back now, the way he moves his legs reminds me of how guys go along on e-bikes. Today, everyone would have figured it out, back then, e-bikes weren’t as common.
@MrChippinator4 күн бұрын
I will always remember this attack, because afterword, Tom Boonen said (paraphrasing): "I didn't have any problem there. I was riding well. When he attacked near the top, I was doing 900 watts, but he was still riding away. " (It turns out, Cancellara had a max power that day of 1450, probably during that attack)
@JumpingWatermelons3 жыл бұрын
His motor* and cancellara combined was 1450 watts
@roebbiej2 жыл бұрын
Motor Doping
@kahtering35552 жыл бұрын
900w on a climb? you clearly don't know what you're talking about. maybe try riding a bike once?
@gimmigimmigimmi Жыл бұрын
@@gimmigimmigimmi you don't think Tom Boonen could make 900w while riding up a short hill?
@JumpingWatermelons Жыл бұрын
@@JumpingWatermelons 900w is more than 10w/kg, so the answer is easily no.
@gimmigimmigimmi Жыл бұрын
Madre mia Cancellara-Boonen tete a tete. Ataque impresionante en el mejor escenario posible. Momento mítico ya del ciclismo. Bestial. Ojalá vuelva a este nivel para 2015 y veamos una Vlaanderen espectacular. Espero ver a Wellens ahí en la pelea.
@magnitogorski9 жыл бұрын
te gusta el motociclismo?
@YoutubSUCKZ2 жыл бұрын
@@YoutubSUCKZ y a ti chupar no? Suckz
@bibialan60719 ай бұрын
2:35
@fewcruit48 жыл бұрын
Cancellara "motors" ahead? I see what you did there.
@raganwald8 жыл бұрын
Cancellara is monster, Boonen is outclassed so dont talk rubish.
@Angel-gn2on8 жыл бұрын
+Jojo Labuguen You can even work out where Sparticus turned on his motor! Are you blind?
@3vimages4718 жыл бұрын
It's completely unnatural to simply accelerate away from your nearest competitor on that pitch and open up that big of a gap without a bit of anguish on your face. He looks so effortless - like he's waiting for an oil change. Sorry, but there is no such thing as Superman.
@JamieSmith-fz2mz7 жыл бұрын
After thinking again, I think he was just switching on the radio. But what song, gives such motivation? Pray, do tell...
@gempidge7 жыл бұрын
You can see boonen actually runs into the wall with his front tire, right as the commmentator says Aww, that is what makes the gap so staggering.
@bernardhinault93776 жыл бұрын
If anyone believes that, the reason is very simple, they have never pedal in their life. And especially on cobblestone and worst up a wall at almost 20%
@Michael-gu5lt5 жыл бұрын
Doped bike
@Starrynova4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I am a great fan of Fabian Cancellara and think he was an exceptionally gifted and strong rider. But I have to admit that his performances during 2010 do cause questions to be asked. The featured extract of Cancellara attacking Tom Boonen [who is no slouch and an extremely strong rider himself] on the brutal climb of Muur van Geraardsbergen in the Tour of Flanders is simply staggering! And in the 2010 edition of the Paris-Roubaix [which had been raced a few weeks earlier] Cancellara had casually 'rode away' from a group of top quality riders 50k from the finish line to secure a solo victory. This was no second-string bunch made up of domestiques and also-rans. It included the likes of Sylvain Chavanel, Stuart O'Grady, Filippo Pozzato and again, Tom Boonen - all highly capable and experienced pros. According to Boonen himself, after recovering from the initial shock of Cancellara's audacious attack, the group started to work together and were travelling at 55kph. Even so, Cancellara was still going away from them! [by the end of the race he had put 4 minutes into his competitors!] To distance a chasing group of top guys all working together like that takes a remarkable effort. And the ease at which Cancellara did this does beggar belief.
@thesoultwins725 жыл бұрын
Boonen was top and fit that year. He beat his own record on this climb and looks like a child compared to the motorman... So how can the swiss cheater drop so easily a top tom boonen who climbed faster than the other years...
@laurentwarnon4413 жыл бұрын
@@laurentwarnon441 ........Hi Laurent - yes I was very suspicious of Cancellara in both the P-R and Tour of Flanders as I said. Of course, we will probably never know the 'truth' but to drop an extremely strong rider such as Tom Boonen in that manner - just doesn't seem 'correct'.
@thesoultwins722 жыл бұрын
It is cause for suspicion.
@bellavia511 ай бұрын
Nada para extrañarse. La "Locomotora de Berna" fue 2 veces Campeón Olímpico de Contrarreloj (2008 y 2016) y pudo haber sido 3 veces (sufrió una caída en el Gran Fondo de Londres, 2012 ). El suizo, uno de los mejores clasicómanos y contrarrelojistas de la historia. Eso es todo.
@andresbravo7049 ай бұрын
Sapete dirmi che marca aveva di motore elettrico Cancellara...
@alessiodoardo83523 жыл бұрын
how did he do that? unbelievable
@chrisvillanueva41258 жыл бұрын
impossible de tourner les jambes comme ça !!!
@gajupla67878 жыл бұрын
Exactement, j'habite à 10 bornes de Gramont. Et à cette endroit c'est totalement illogique que cancelara se met à faire du 100 t/m alors qu'avant il à une fréquence de 70. De plus il accélère comme une moto Boonen qui fait une très bonne montée est au sprint et de fait déposer. Et ce suisse traite ces détracteurs comme un certain Texan avant lui. Vivement le jour où un mécanicien balancera le morceau.
@mcycliste21445 жыл бұрын
je ne sais pas ce qui a du se passer dans la tete de boonen.
@remibazin49754 жыл бұрын
@@remibazin4975 la sensation d'avoir pris un coup de vieux!
@alfpacino26303 жыл бұрын
avec Froom, il forme la génération, j'attaque le cul sur la selle en pleine montée!
@alfpacino26303 жыл бұрын
Meme pour un simple amateur de vélo, ca se voit a l'oeil nu que ce n'est pas credible. Boonen etait au top, il s'arrache sur sa machine pour essayer d'avancer tant bien que mal, et l'autre a coté assis sur sa selle qui lui met 20 mètres en l'espace de 60 metres.
@maxsan49912 жыл бұрын
He was speculated to have illegal support in his pedalling. Its so steep and yet he just sat on his saddle like nothing happened and then he looked down to his bike at the top of the climb.
@jordimaxwell2 жыл бұрын
Well..as a belgian who has followed pro cycling for 50 years now...I had never seen this kind of "acceleration" ..twice in a matter of 7 days...2010..both times Cancellara...1 in RVV...1 in Roubaix....What bothers me the most in RVV are his numerous bike changes...clearly they were planned and the exchanges were done to perfection. I have seen a ton of RVV and Roubaix.....and I can tell you that in these classics in full "finale" bike changes ONLY take place if something breaks on the original bike. Even pro's will tell ya....In Roubaix...well..yes..the group was looking at each other ..true..so if you reference his speed to those 3 or 4 riders it seems like he's flying...but I do not reference it at those 3-4...I just observe the sudden ( I mean like lightning quick) enormous increase in cadence ..even as he"s looking backward and the Boonen group not exactly going slow ( one long queue). Within seconds of what should be a huge effort he looks back and keeps it all looking just a little bit too smooth for me. BTW..companies have been experimenting with electrical "in frame" motors for years..one canadian company even has their setup with SRAM..lol......oops...coincidence or not. Am I against Cancellara ?...far from..I consider him half a flandrien and a beast indeed. But these 2 moments were "super human" or at least to this day that is how I remember them....because they seemed truly effortless. And I have seen hundreds of "demarrages" by equally talented one-day-classic riders in these 2 classics.....in all those I WITNESSED GREAT PHYSICAL EFFORT with a totally different body language.
@rudymerckx74246 жыл бұрын
In Roubaix he looked like one the camera motors was passing the group. Like he pushed the throttle
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
Then Chris Froome did it twice, 2013 Ventoux and 2015 PSM
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
Also for long range attacks, see Floyd Landis 2006 Tour and Chris Froome 2018 Giro
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
sorr looser
@schattelux14543 жыл бұрын
@@DanielSong39 On an up and down course a great climber can open the gap on each climb and hold that gap on the descents
@notreally24062 жыл бұрын
It should be pretty easy to estimate the power for the attack by comparing his time to one of the Strava segments and that rider's power and weight. It's so steep that the environmental variables are probably negligible. I can try but it might take me a while since I know nothing about that climb.
@skinny557727 жыл бұрын
Have you figured it out yet?
@mikehall660811 күн бұрын
I don't understand how people still aren't able to see the pure fraude shown here
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
At the time of the race, bikes weren't checked for mechanical doping. Do you even bike, bro?
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
Makes it only stranger that you have no clue of bike check ups at races of that time
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
bro
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
About 10-20 bikes of the 400 are checked in most races, some races check up to 200 bikes, but never all of them
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
And yea they started doing it in 2013, screening randomly around 10-20 bikes in 2013, they started checking more intensively from 2018 on.
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
That was bullshit. That gap was like 12 seconds after 20 seconds of racing. Boonen never cracked. Yeah, super suspicious.
@trinerd7 ай бұрын
I rode up the Muur myself this year for the first time and my respect for those guys just exploded…just like i did fighting these cobbles
@chrisbrodroy11836 ай бұрын
Impossible to give such a gap against a strong rider like Boonen
@SongDen6 жыл бұрын
Analoga considerazione in una tappa in cui fu staccato Peter Sagan . Il modo con cui Cancellara superò Sagan che peraltro era in in piena forma è e rimane sospetto .
@claudiobini77114 жыл бұрын
tom boonen was dead at that moment
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
Unreal.
@allan49229 ай бұрын
Around 2.37, you can see Cancerella's doing something... right before he takes off. Funny how on the bits of the slope where EVERYONE else has to stand up in the saddle, Cancerella remains comfortably seated.
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
MERE CONJECTURE: That he uses an electric motor. FACT: You find many videos in which he makes strange hand movements right before he attacks FACT: You can find many videos where he is doing an attack on steep climbs, and he is the only one who doesn't rise out of the saddle. FACT: There is no actual proof Cancerella has broken the rules. FACT: Swiss people are awesome, Switzerland is awesome.
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
Tamhas B although it is rather hard to believe that such a tiny battery could do any good for more than about 5 seconds. Probably more likely that Cancerella is just a god on two wheels now that i think about it. If there was battery that good in existence, why hasn't Apple put one in my iPhone?
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
haha you are joking... but believe me i hate nothing more than cheaters in cycling. An if cancellara would cheat I can't believe they would have found it out. And he didn't win all the other classic races so there might be some races who perfectly fit to him. His legs might have more power, so he doesn't have to rise out of the saddle. But I'm not an expert... Are you from belgium?
@tobi-sui61338 жыл бұрын
+Tamhas B A few notes: He is just switching gears before the attack. Rising out of the saddle means a higher heart rate = faster lactate buildup. In this video Boonen is struggling already at the bottom of the hill; he gets out of the saddle a lot, which happens often when somebody cannot keep up. Cancellara looks fresh from the beginning of the hill, holds a high cadence consistently and powers through. Just take a look at the cadence difference from 2:23. My opinion: Spartacus is a beast.
@szalaydaniel86318 жыл бұрын
+Tamhas B No motor here. Look at his cadence! Cancellara is spinning his tits off!
@danielabrams75878 жыл бұрын
I still remember watching this, screaming "BULLSHIT!"
@michaelvstheworld36809 ай бұрын
Was that the year Fabian won on ZIpp 303? Boonen seems still old fashioned on wheels at the time.
@QiuyuanChenRyan9167 жыл бұрын
Cancellara's bikes were quite particular ...
@100cucimata Жыл бұрын
Cancellara pioche déjà aux pied du mur dans la roue de Boonen et la différence est trop importante quand il attaque
@fredericfrere72513 жыл бұрын
Look the cancellara's right hand at 2:36.
@talep51805 жыл бұрын
My god what a performance. What a massive gap. Opened up in a matter of seconds.
@sebastian71123 жыл бұрын
カンチェのアタック凄すぎ😊 ボーネンの名勝負数え歌ww
@user-mt9rt3zm7n4 жыл бұрын
Motor in the frame
@gnarkillMTB9 ай бұрын
De muur has to come back to the race!!!! Much more exciting.
@johanbaertie9 жыл бұрын
miss Dave Harmon so much
@abedfo885 жыл бұрын
@MortalShowdown That could be a good explanation
@spabcn12 жыл бұрын
Electrical motor Cancellara?
@paulsolon6229 Жыл бұрын
"Prepare for LUDICROUS SPEED."
@sebastianlecourt1366Ай бұрын
Didn’t know about motor in the bike could exist at that moment and as i was watching this i said to my self : how is he accelerating so fast with Boonen fighting with is bike , the rest is history!
@stephanelavoie2258Ай бұрын
i very hope that the uci will the muur take to the race it belongs back. here's a german friend of the muur, theres no ronde without it...
@Trekki6112 жыл бұрын
The day of the motor 🛵
@rhyslloyd61253 ай бұрын
He starts the engine in the minute 2:18. The pedal changes completely.
@ivangomezdiaz26514 жыл бұрын
Or he just changes down a gear to something lower...
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
@@championthewonderhorse9733 lol right. these comments are so fucking stupid. Cancellara probably just had better gearing
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of being dropped by an elderly woman on an e-bike with a couple of baguettes in her basket. Looks very similar.
@StopTheRot11 күн бұрын
Sings: Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'
@user-ye7su5of7c5 жыл бұрын
Is that Dave Harmon commentating with Kelly?
@user-rm1xg9yg9p20 күн бұрын
Cancelara.was working harder in the beginning of the climb the he was on the steep part while attacking.
@RandomUsername34Ай бұрын
Did they have motors and batteries small enough to fit in the seat tube back in those days?
@adityagupta101Ай бұрын
Not off-the-shelf, but if one was willing to spend the bucks for something high-end and custom made, probably yes
@christophermoyer6103Ай бұрын
@@christophermoyer6103 very similar footage of one girl who cheated with motor in seat tube. She literally motored off on steep incline... However I reckon there is at least 10-15 years between the 2 incidents. So curious if the tech was as advanced back in the day
@adityagupta101Ай бұрын
@@adityagupta101 I agree it looks similar. And it stands to reason that FC, as one of the best cyclists in the world, would have access to cutting edge technology (including illicit methods of performance enhancement) significantly before lesser riders such as the Belgian cyclocrosser none of us had heard of until she got caught red-handed with a motorized bicycle The more I watch that clip of FC pulling away from Boonen, the more convinced I am that it's a case of cheating. Combine that with his numerous and unconventional bike changes and I think it's naive to believe that nothing illicit took place.
@christophermoyer6103Ай бұрын
Motor engin worked well.
@Kanonka2820 күн бұрын
Had Cancellara an E-bike?🔋
@tim3d716Ай бұрын
Ghost in the machine
@goonballer14 күн бұрын
After this ride, they added E-bike on Strava.
@oceanedetotesАй бұрын
Amazing climb and E -bike 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@albertohernandez3606Ай бұрын
1450w? Which brand is his bike's engine? 😂
@andrearota29762 жыл бұрын
Cancelara 100 rpm in Gramont 😂
@mcycliste21445 жыл бұрын
Everything clear to see.....motor use. This bike doping really gets ridicolous.
@bergsteirer8 жыл бұрын
So in 60 seconds (give or take a few seconds) the guy pulled away around 250 meters, he's moving 4 meters PER SECOND FASTER than the other guy- in other words a good 9mph quicke- that's quite a big difference in speed.
@TurboDally6 жыл бұрын
TurboDally think twice about it ... if I have an advance of lets say 50meters at the end of the hill, during the time my opponent runs at low speed completing the hill, I go way faster than him on the flat/descent portion and when he reaches the top I could have 250meters of advance ! so do again your calculation takin this into account
@felicienbourdin8406 жыл бұрын
It depends on the form of the riders. In another commentary, Cancellara was climbing just a tiny bit faster than the record holder on the hill, Naesen, who was not a star rider overall. So, if he were on the road that day, Cancellara would have had but a small margin on him. Perhaps Boonen was not at his best. There are so many considerations - who knows? But Cancellara had such immense power, this could have been the greatest week of his career.
@nicolasdelaforge74206 ай бұрын
This is at least suspicious. Boonen is dying on his bike meanwhile Cancellara pedals away easily.
@davidfernandez97916 жыл бұрын
Yeah because he's a time trial specialist and has spend hundred of hours riding in that position
@abone2pick2 жыл бұрын
C'est bien Spart'accu son surnom ?
@nmal63714 жыл бұрын
"Spark Plug" accu
@tbcyable3 жыл бұрын
He turned up gas alright
@chrisdeluca657727 күн бұрын
Phil Gaimon brought me here!
@scallybombchucker6 жыл бұрын
me 2 and if you look close on 2:53/4 you see the same handling being done like on 2:38/9 exactly the moment when he has the gap and is trough the steepest part of the Muur ... i know people can do extraordinary things but that far into a race like the tour off flanders and knowing he is easily doing it from the saddle places big question marks ... I always admired him as a person but his recent twitter war and the way he is doing it reminds me about a certain texan kid who also was yelling he wasn't doing something , nevertheless we will never know for sure what happend what we have seen :D
@aikman216 жыл бұрын
Yep, he tried to sell a book latching on to the coat tails of real cyclist and some idiots bought it...
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Is this the race when Cancellara changed his bike 3-4 times? Wonder why!! The attack looks very unnatural given the fact that he must have produced well over 1000w sitting in the sadle.
@kajakmannen16662 жыл бұрын
People just like to hate. Boonen himself was riding that part of the race faster then cancellara in the year before.
@Alpenmagier2 жыл бұрын
Again 2:38 what happens with the right hand?? Not a gear change but it is interesting in that year how before acceleration in Flanders and Roubaix he touches the same area on the bike.
@Fennefar5 жыл бұрын
Just doesn’t look right 🤔
@jameswillett1185 жыл бұрын
Y a pas à dire c'est efficace le moteur !!!!!!
@43gillou5 жыл бұрын
Fabian Cancellectric
@Angelo_Botta5 жыл бұрын
He was turning the gas Ho yes
@marcobracci790520 күн бұрын
Look at his left hand at 2.37 min.
@Tha-King-Arthur3 жыл бұрын
Post bike change
@dickieblench50017 ай бұрын
Lithium Cancellara ????
@bo2web8 жыл бұрын
On lui a toujours pas retiré ses titres au motard suisse ?
@hugoz1187 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You can see why folks think he was motorized. That little flick of the fingers of his right hand as he rode away at 2:37 was saying, "Bye, Tom!"
@pahouseholder6 жыл бұрын
Right, he downshifted into a lower gear, and rode away from a blown Boonen. Occam's Razor.
@henseleric Жыл бұрын
yes he turned his gear whot you see i think your on the dope
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
Cancellara.. bike strip down would be interesting...
@guyjones366522 күн бұрын
It's very clear what he does at 2:37. The gradient gets steeper, Boonen starts to feel it, Cancellara changes down a gear, his cadence increases and he doesn't need to get out of the saddle.
@1101grayzer6 жыл бұрын
Sean Gray cadence tend to increase when you shift down...
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Sean Gray you’re probably right. Cancellara was the strongest rider at that time. Not fair to accuse him of technical fraude.
@MrBerndwiekema4 жыл бұрын
At the vert moment Sean Kelly says that attacking sitting in the saddle is the best way to attack the climb too...
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
I've stepped through that part a couple times and I agree (but I do think there are better examples of pros and electric assist). Right through the 2:37 mark, if you go frame by frame, it's clear their cadences had been matched but C drops his right shoulder a bit and his cadence increases, just as would happen if one were to downshift. He's off the hook in my book, and a veritable monster.
@ChuckD593 жыл бұрын
Oliver Naesen has the current Muur strava record at 2 minutes 50 during the binck banck tour when he was off peak. Here Boonen and cancellara hit the Muur at 20 seconds and boonen summits at around 3:25 which is around 3 minutes on boonens side. Not putting it past cancellara in his prime to have done 2:40ish then extended his gap in the downhill without a motor.
@imraanmajiet10585 жыл бұрын
If your figures are right, this is the best analysis so far. Cancellara would have been much stronger than Naesen, and Boonen was actually slower than you would normally allow such a great rider. Great work.
@nicolasdelaforge74206 ай бұрын
it was not for nothing that he had a mechanical groupet the bateri and the engine would not have entered the vertical tube, which more is obliged to mounted sitting in the wall if the wheel sliding
@jamisdelsol57615 жыл бұрын
That is a f*cking shame. 100% motor
@brianramzoti29539 ай бұрын
Right hand at 2:37...nun said!
@santosleandro19557 жыл бұрын
2:43 Bonnen does the same. What nun?
@Juan00036 жыл бұрын
Ever riden a bike? he changed gear.
@ahhhhhhhDestroyed6 жыл бұрын
Literally the moment Sean Kelly says the best way to attack the climb is sitting in the saddle and Cancellara does just that...
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
humanly not possible whithout help...
@benitofalazi82282 жыл бұрын
Check out Cancellara's right hand at 2:37 ... ;)
@Lepercurtidoo4 жыл бұрын
First time you assume something of someone you don't know ? Guess not, i am cycling 42y straight now ...
@Lepercurtidoo3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t someone do a theoretical calculation on the amount of power put down by Cancellara? It would show that 30 seconds gap on Boonen is impossible.
@RickBeckler3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Either Specialized or Team Saxo bank did release some of Fabian's power data from that day. The max power was 1,450 watts, presumably duing that attack.
@JumpingWatermelons3 жыл бұрын
Cancellaras time up that hill isn't even the fastest . I think the Kom up that hill is like 3 seconds faster than what cancellara did.
@abone2pick2 жыл бұрын
He made that gap in seconds, whilst Boonen was still going pretty quickly, not possible with out a motor.
@MrMarolles Жыл бұрын
Can you prove ? If not sh1t up !
@reneflippe3286 Жыл бұрын
whahhaha whot a idiots in this world , you boonen struggled meter by meter in the and to get ont top
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
nice motor
@humbertomedina44964 жыл бұрын
Still wondering and questioning that action being „motorized“?….😉
@jodaefauser2911Ай бұрын
Sadly you'll never see a better example of motor doping.
@Bad_Gnasher Жыл бұрын
Froome in every single one of his TDF wins
@Michael-hm8cs27 күн бұрын
@@Michael-hm8cs got a link?
@Bad_Gnasher26 күн бұрын
Cancellara with E-Bike
@tristanomoresi2014Ай бұрын
Neanche la telecamera riesce a stargli dietro...
@felice99413 күн бұрын
Some motor on Fabio there 😉
@jamesryan56823 жыл бұрын
🏍️
@fromopac5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mr0totonio2 жыл бұрын
That is cheating.
@mtbmagazineАй бұрын
Rev up your engines!
@doggdemuro5 жыл бұрын
LMAO that made me laugh man
@VitalMusic2174 жыл бұрын
@spabcn I am sorry actually Cancellara did attack but Boonen had cramps as well. So it was like double trouble for him.
Wow, Cancellara was really motoring up that climb, wasn't he?
😂
tom boonen's "suffering" and "fighting the bike" is lightyears faster than I could go up that hill
it's incredible - he is one of the elite and he is suffering at the hands of cancellara. most of us would have climbed off the bike miles before
Did Boonen change his gear a couple of times? There are moments when his pedal speed is lower, before the gap is growing.
Only way I get up that hill is by climbing off the bike
This actually should be put to a scientific investigation. Physicists should calculate how much (more) power you need to output to build so much advantage in a couple seconds on a steep more than 10% (average I believe it was more than 10% at this very moment). Someone who cycle anything in his life and when put this into one's head knows exactly that this situation is just iconically ridiculous.
It's like the Froome acceleration up the Ventoux in 2013. A 1000+ watt surge within a couple seconds that takes place without visible effort from the rider.
They should compare his time in the video to the Strava segment for it. If it's the same for some random strong guy doing 600 watts then it's probably legit.
Just estimates out of my butt after using Zwift for so long: Boonen was probably putting out a solid 600 watts at that moment and when seeing Cancellara motor away raised that to 700-800 watts. Cancellara's distancing would make the output well over 1400 watts. That's the kind of power unleashed in a sprint, which Cancellara had no pedigree for, plus he doesn't even show strained signs of that kind of power being made.
@@oldtwinsna8347 Cancellara actually has had top 5 finishes in bunch sprints but yeah you're not going to do 1400 watts+ there without putting in a visible effort
@@oldtwinsna8347 please show your calculations
FYI, Boonen gained time on every other rider in the field in the Muur. That should give you some perspective on how fast Cancellara went up the climb.
Annemiek van Vleuten in 2020 Omloop het Nieuwsblad went faster up it than Cancellara in 2010 Ronde
Na hoeveel km moest Annemiek de muur op?
Boonen had a gear problem, why nobody can see that?!
It is not the whole climb that is important here. It is that Fabian went only in the last 300 m or so and that is where it is amazing/suspiscious.
La caméra écrase beaucoup l' image , mais pour l' avoir déja fait en VTT , c est un véritable mur , la pente est impressionnante !! Ce que fait Cancellarra est inhumain , quelque chose cloche et je m' etais deja fait la reflexion en direct
EBIKE
il y a que 50 m à plus de 14 %, le reste à 10 % ou moins. C'est pas si terrible et le pavé est très régulier. La côte de la ferme Libert fait la même longueur mais sa moyenne est au niveau de la pire portion du Grammont. Le Koppenberg aussi est bien plus raide que le Grammont avec un pavé bien plus mauvais mais sec pas besoin d'un VTT
Cancellara had a very “special” bike that day. And also in Paris-Roubaix.
This was the day my hero died....
Prove it or shut up.
Slechte verliezers
@@lucmeeussen9714 close your eyes doesn't turn the light off
@@lucmeeussen9714 Indeed, all this is (stupid) gossip. If you can't prove it, shut up indeed. Cancellara was an exceptional champion.
I used to give cancellara the benefit of the doubt. But after discovering the very very sneaky second bike change I think its very unlikely he didnt do mechanical doping. Cancellara had a mechanical issue and did a first bike chance. The main mechanic jumps out of the car and gives him a new bike. A few km's later Breschel has a real issue and requests a new bike, but the main mechanic isnt in the car anymore resulting in Breschel getting the wrong bike, losing a lot of time and never returning to the front. A few km further the images show Cancellara suddenly sitting on his original bike. What happened, at the point where cancellara did his first bike change, the stage makes a loop. The mechanic had to walk 500 meter to get on the other part of the stage. What does amateur footage reveal. In a turn everybody where makes the short turn, Cancellara goes wide where the main mechanic is waiting with the original bike and you see Cancellara do a lightning bike swap. Its a sad thing but after all these years i am convinced Cancellara cheated.
I don't understand. Why wasn't any of this caught by cameras in a race like this?
and there my grandson, the e-bike was born
100% motor can’t believe I didn’t saw it when I watched it live in 2010
It’s almost like cancellara has a hidden motor in his frame.
All his win was with hidden electric motor.
No one can convince me that he wasn't motorized, especially if you see also the video of Paris Roubaix of a week later...
He needed no motor to win 6 world titles in TT, when he could not have cheated.
Ahahahah the next video KZhead suggests me is "GCN - Are e-bikes fun? Road bike vs e-bike".
Well you see the difference in this video
As likely as QAnon
Did Cancellara just put 30 seconds on Boonen in under a minute?
Something like that. And it can happen, I remember Froome loosing around 30-35 seconds on a climbing stage at the TdF 2017, on the last 150 meters!
mega smacky Phil Gaimon troopers are here lol
@@dansprague2 Cancellara used a motor. It's obvious. Sadly he got away with it.
Putting 30s on someone in 1min requires the front person to go 1/3 faster than the other. If you go twice as fast as them, then u gain more than 1min gap in 1min.
Frank M Boonen was on the limit going into the climb, Cancellara waited for the steep and put the hammer down. It happens almost any year in the RVV, this year Bettiol did it to GvA and the rest of the favorites. Not really unbelievable, just racing. The fact that he never got out of the saddle is his style, and to avoid slipping on the steep cobbles while putting out 1000+W.
Thank you!
This is DOPE. both mechanical and medical.
Well, besides that I don't buy it: you can't prove if, so shut up.
Watching this back now, the way he moves his legs reminds me of how guys go along on e-bikes. Today, everyone would have figured it out, back then, e-bikes weren’t as common.
I will always remember this attack, because afterword, Tom Boonen said (paraphrasing): "I didn't have any problem there. I was riding well. When he attacked near the top, I was doing 900 watts, but he was still riding away. " (It turns out, Cancellara had a max power that day of 1450, probably during that attack)
His motor* and cancellara combined was 1450 watts
Motor Doping
900w on a climb? you clearly don't know what you're talking about. maybe try riding a bike once?
@@gimmigimmigimmi you don't think Tom Boonen could make 900w while riding up a short hill?
@@JumpingWatermelons 900w is more than 10w/kg, so the answer is easily no.
Madre mia Cancellara-Boonen tete a tete. Ataque impresionante en el mejor escenario posible. Momento mítico ya del ciclismo. Bestial. Ojalá vuelva a este nivel para 2015 y veamos una Vlaanderen espectacular. Espero ver a Wellens ahí en la pelea.
te gusta el motociclismo?
@@YoutubSUCKZ y a ti chupar no? Suckz
2:35
Cancellara "motors" ahead? I see what you did there.
Cancellara is monster, Boonen is outclassed so dont talk rubish.
+Jojo Labuguen You can even work out where Sparticus turned on his motor! Are you blind?
It's completely unnatural to simply accelerate away from your nearest competitor on that pitch and open up that big of a gap without a bit of anguish on your face. He looks so effortless - like he's waiting for an oil change. Sorry, but there is no such thing as Superman.
After thinking again, I think he was just switching on the radio. But what song, gives such motivation? Pray, do tell...
You can see boonen actually runs into the wall with his front tire, right as the commmentator says Aww, that is what makes the gap so staggering.
If anyone believes that, the reason is very simple, they have never pedal in their life. And especially on cobblestone and worst up a wall at almost 20%
Doped bike
Firstly, I am a great fan of Fabian Cancellara and think he was an exceptionally gifted and strong rider. But I have to admit that his performances during 2010 do cause questions to be asked. The featured extract of Cancellara attacking Tom Boonen [who is no slouch and an extremely strong rider himself] on the brutal climb of Muur van Geraardsbergen in the Tour of Flanders is simply staggering! And in the 2010 edition of the Paris-Roubaix [which had been raced a few weeks earlier] Cancellara had casually 'rode away' from a group of top quality riders 50k from the finish line to secure a solo victory. This was no second-string bunch made up of domestiques and also-rans. It included the likes of Sylvain Chavanel, Stuart O'Grady, Filippo Pozzato and again, Tom Boonen - all highly capable and experienced pros. According to Boonen himself, after recovering from the initial shock of Cancellara's audacious attack, the group started to work together and were travelling at 55kph. Even so, Cancellara was still going away from them! [by the end of the race he had put 4 minutes into his competitors!] To distance a chasing group of top guys all working together like that takes a remarkable effort. And the ease at which Cancellara did this does beggar belief.
Boonen was top and fit that year. He beat his own record on this climb and looks like a child compared to the motorman... So how can the swiss cheater drop so easily a top tom boonen who climbed faster than the other years...
@@laurentwarnon441 ........Hi Laurent - yes I was very suspicious of Cancellara in both the P-R and Tour of Flanders as I said. Of course, we will probably never know the 'truth' but to drop an extremely strong rider such as Tom Boonen in that manner - just doesn't seem 'correct'.
It is cause for suspicion.
Nada para extrañarse. La "Locomotora de Berna" fue 2 veces Campeón Olímpico de Contrarreloj (2008 y 2016) y pudo haber sido 3 veces (sufrió una caída en el Gran Fondo de Londres, 2012 ). El suizo, uno de los mejores clasicómanos y contrarrelojistas de la historia. Eso es todo.
Sapete dirmi che marca aveva di motore elettrico Cancellara...
how did he do that? unbelievable
impossible de tourner les jambes comme ça !!!
Exactement, j'habite à 10 bornes de Gramont. Et à cette endroit c'est totalement illogique que cancelara se met à faire du 100 t/m alors qu'avant il à une fréquence de 70. De plus il accélère comme une moto Boonen qui fait une très bonne montée est au sprint et de fait déposer. Et ce suisse traite ces détracteurs comme un certain Texan avant lui. Vivement le jour où un mécanicien balancera le morceau.
je ne sais pas ce qui a du se passer dans la tete de boonen.
@@remibazin4975 la sensation d'avoir pris un coup de vieux!
avec Froom, il forme la génération, j'attaque le cul sur la selle en pleine montée!
Meme pour un simple amateur de vélo, ca se voit a l'oeil nu que ce n'est pas credible. Boonen etait au top, il s'arrache sur sa machine pour essayer d'avancer tant bien que mal, et l'autre a coté assis sur sa selle qui lui met 20 mètres en l'espace de 60 metres.
He was speculated to have illegal support in his pedalling. Its so steep and yet he just sat on his saddle like nothing happened and then he looked down to his bike at the top of the climb.
Well..as a belgian who has followed pro cycling for 50 years now...I had never seen this kind of "acceleration" ..twice in a matter of 7 days...2010..both times Cancellara...1 in RVV...1 in Roubaix....What bothers me the most in RVV are his numerous bike changes...clearly they were planned and the exchanges were done to perfection. I have seen a ton of RVV and Roubaix.....and I can tell you that in these classics in full "finale" bike changes ONLY take place if something breaks on the original bike. Even pro's will tell ya....In Roubaix...well..yes..the group was looking at each other ..true..so if you reference his speed to those 3 or 4 riders it seems like he's flying...but I do not reference it at those 3-4...I just observe the sudden ( I mean like lightning quick) enormous increase in cadence ..even as he"s looking backward and the Boonen group not exactly going slow ( one long queue). Within seconds of what should be a huge effort he looks back and keeps it all looking just a little bit too smooth for me. BTW..companies have been experimenting with electrical "in frame" motors for years..one canadian company even has their setup with SRAM..lol......oops...coincidence or not. Am I against Cancellara ?...far from..I consider him half a flandrien and a beast indeed. But these 2 moments were "super human" or at least to this day that is how I remember them....because they seemed truly effortless. And I have seen hundreds of "demarrages" by equally talented one-day-classic riders in these 2 classics.....in all those I WITNESSED GREAT PHYSICAL EFFORT with a totally different body language.
In Roubaix he looked like one the camera motors was passing the group. Like he pushed the throttle
Then Chris Froome did it twice, 2013 Ventoux and 2015 PSM
Also for long range attacks, see Floyd Landis 2006 Tour and Chris Froome 2018 Giro
sorr looser
@@DanielSong39 On an up and down course a great climber can open the gap on each climb and hold that gap on the descents
It should be pretty easy to estimate the power for the attack by comparing his time to one of the Strava segments and that rider's power and weight. It's so steep that the environmental variables are probably negligible. I can try but it might take me a while since I know nothing about that climb.
Have you figured it out yet?
I don't understand how people still aren't able to see the pure fraude shown here
At the time of the race, bikes weren't checked for mechanical doping. Do you even bike, bro?
Makes it only stranger that you have no clue of bike check ups at races of that time
bro
About 10-20 bikes of the 400 are checked in most races, some races check up to 200 bikes, but never all of them
And yea they started doing it in 2013, screening randomly around 10-20 bikes in 2013, they started checking more intensively from 2018 on.
That was bullshit. That gap was like 12 seconds after 20 seconds of racing. Boonen never cracked. Yeah, super suspicious.
I rode up the Muur myself this year for the first time and my respect for those guys just exploded…just like i did fighting these cobbles
Impossible to give such a gap against a strong rider like Boonen
Analoga considerazione in una tappa in cui fu staccato Peter Sagan . Il modo con cui Cancellara superò Sagan che peraltro era in in piena forma è e rimane sospetto .
tom boonen was dead at that moment
Unreal.
Around 2.37, you can see Cancerella's doing something... right before he takes off. Funny how on the bits of the slope where EVERYONE else has to stand up in the saddle, Cancerella remains comfortably seated.
MERE CONJECTURE: That he uses an electric motor. FACT: You find many videos in which he makes strange hand movements right before he attacks FACT: You can find many videos where he is doing an attack on steep climbs, and he is the only one who doesn't rise out of the saddle. FACT: There is no actual proof Cancerella has broken the rules. FACT: Swiss people are awesome, Switzerland is awesome.
Tamhas B although it is rather hard to believe that such a tiny battery could do any good for more than about 5 seconds. Probably more likely that Cancerella is just a god on two wheels now that i think about it. If there was battery that good in existence, why hasn't Apple put one in my iPhone?
haha you are joking... but believe me i hate nothing more than cheaters in cycling. An if cancellara would cheat I can't believe they would have found it out. And he didn't win all the other classic races so there might be some races who perfectly fit to him. His legs might have more power, so he doesn't have to rise out of the saddle. But I'm not an expert... Are you from belgium?
+Tamhas B A few notes: He is just switching gears before the attack. Rising out of the saddle means a higher heart rate = faster lactate buildup. In this video Boonen is struggling already at the bottom of the hill; he gets out of the saddle a lot, which happens often when somebody cannot keep up. Cancellara looks fresh from the beginning of the hill, holds a high cadence consistently and powers through. Just take a look at the cadence difference from 2:23. My opinion: Spartacus is a beast.
+Tamhas B No motor here. Look at his cadence! Cancellara is spinning his tits off!
I still remember watching this, screaming "BULLSHIT!"
Was that the year Fabian won on ZIpp 303? Boonen seems still old fashioned on wheels at the time.
Cancellara's bikes were quite particular ...
Cancellara pioche déjà aux pied du mur dans la roue de Boonen et la différence est trop importante quand il attaque
Look the cancellara's right hand at 2:36.
My god what a performance. What a massive gap. Opened up in a matter of seconds.
カンチェのアタック凄すぎ😊 ボーネンの名勝負数え歌ww
Motor in the frame
De muur has to come back to the race!!!! Much more exciting.
miss Dave Harmon so much
@MortalShowdown That could be a good explanation
Electrical motor Cancellara?
"Prepare for LUDICROUS SPEED."
Didn’t know about motor in the bike could exist at that moment and as i was watching this i said to my self : how is he accelerating so fast with Boonen fighting with is bike , the rest is history!
i very hope that the uci will the muur take to the race it belongs back. here's a german friend of the muur, theres no ronde without it...
The day of the motor 🛵
He starts the engine in the minute 2:18. The pedal changes completely.
Or he just changes down a gear to something lower...
@@championthewonderhorse9733 lol right. these comments are so fucking stupid. Cancellara probably just had better gearing
This brings back memories of being dropped by an elderly woman on an e-bike with a couple of baguettes in her basket. Looks very similar.
Sings: Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'
Is that Dave Harmon commentating with Kelly?
Cancelara.was working harder in the beginning of the climb the he was on the steep part while attacking.
Did they have motors and batteries small enough to fit in the seat tube back in those days?
Not off-the-shelf, but if one was willing to spend the bucks for something high-end and custom made, probably yes
@@christophermoyer6103 very similar footage of one girl who cheated with motor in seat tube. She literally motored off on steep incline... However I reckon there is at least 10-15 years between the 2 incidents. So curious if the tech was as advanced back in the day
@@adityagupta101 I agree it looks similar. And it stands to reason that FC, as one of the best cyclists in the world, would have access to cutting edge technology (including illicit methods of performance enhancement) significantly before lesser riders such as the Belgian cyclocrosser none of us had heard of until she got caught red-handed with a motorized bicycle The more I watch that clip of FC pulling away from Boonen, the more convinced I am that it's a case of cheating. Combine that with his numerous and unconventional bike changes and I think it's naive to believe that nothing illicit took place.
Motor engin worked well.
Had Cancellara an E-bike?🔋
Ghost in the machine
After this ride, they added E-bike on Strava.
Amazing climb and E -bike 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
1450w? Which brand is his bike's engine? 😂
Cancelara 100 rpm in Gramont 😂
Everything clear to see.....motor use. This bike doping really gets ridicolous.
So in 60 seconds (give or take a few seconds) the guy pulled away around 250 meters, he's moving 4 meters PER SECOND FASTER than the other guy- in other words a good 9mph quicke- that's quite a big difference in speed.
TurboDally think twice about it ... if I have an advance of lets say 50meters at the end of the hill, during the time my opponent runs at low speed completing the hill, I go way faster than him on the flat/descent portion and when he reaches the top I could have 250meters of advance ! so do again your calculation takin this into account
It depends on the form of the riders. In another commentary, Cancellara was climbing just a tiny bit faster than the record holder on the hill, Naesen, who was not a star rider overall. So, if he were on the road that day, Cancellara would have had but a small margin on him. Perhaps Boonen was not at his best. There are so many considerations - who knows? But Cancellara had such immense power, this could have been the greatest week of his career.
This is at least suspicious. Boonen is dying on his bike meanwhile Cancellara pedals away easily.
Yeah because he's a time trial specialist and has spend hundred of hours riding in that position
C'est bien Spart'accu son surnom ?
"Spark Plug" accu
He turned up gas alright
Phil Gaimon brought me here!
me 2 and if you look close on 2:53/4 you see the same handling being done like on 2:38/9 exactly the moment when he has the gap and is trough the steepest part of the Muur ... i know people can do extraordinary things but that far into a race like the tour off flanders and knowing he is easily doing it from the saddle places big question marks ... I always admired him as a person but his recent twitter war and the way he is doing it reminds me about a certain texan kid who also was yelling he wasn't doing something , nevertheless we will never know for sure what happend what we have seen :D
Yep, he tried to sell a book latching on to the coat tails of real cyclist and some idiots bought it...
Is this the race when Cancellara changed his bike 3-4 times? Wonder why!! The attack looks very unnatural given the fact that he must have produced well over 1000w sitting in the sadle.
People just like to hate. Boonen himself was riding that part of the race faster then cancellara in the year before.
Again 2:38 what happens with the right hand?? Not a gear change but it is interesting in that year how before acceleration in Flanders and Roubaix he touches the same area on the bike.
Just doesn’t look right 🤔
Y a pas à dire c'est efficace le moteur !!!!!!
Fabian Cancellectric
He was turning the gas Ho yes
Look at his left hand at 2.37 min.
Post bike change
Lithium Cancellara ????
On lui a toujours pas retiré ses titres au motard suisse ?
Wow. You can see why folks think he was motorized. That little flick of the fingers of his right hand as he rode away at 2:37 was saying, "Bye, Tom!"
Right, he downshifted into a lower gear, and rode away from a blown Boonen. Occam's Razor.
yes he turned his gear whot you see i think your on the dope
Cancellara.. bike strip down would be interesting...
It's very clear what he does at 2:37. The gradient gets steeper, Boonen starts to feel it, Cancellara changes down a gear, his cadence increases and he doesn't need to get out of the saddle.
Sean Gray cadence tend to increase when you shift down...
Sean Gray you’re probably right. Cancellara was the strongest rider at that time. Not fair to accuse him of technical fraude.
At the vert moment Sean Kelly says that attacking sitting in the saddle is the best way to attack the climb too...
I've stepped through that part a couple times and I agree (but I do think there are better examples of pros and electric assist). Right through the 2:37 mark, if you go frame by frame, it's clear their cadences had been matched but C drops his right shoulder a bit and his cadence increases, just as would happen if one were to downshift. He's off the hook in my book, and a veritable monster.
Oliver Naesen has the current Muur strava record at 2 minutes 50 during the binck banck tour when he was off peak. Here Boonen and cancellara hit the Muur at 20 seconds and boonen summits at around 3:25 which is around 3 minutes on boonens side. Not putting it past cancellara in his prime to have done 2:40ish then extended his gap in the downhill without a motor.
If your figures are right, this is the best analysis so far. Cancellara would have been much stronger than Naesen, and Boonen was actually slower than you would normally allow such a great rider. Great work.
it was not for nothing that he had a mechanical groupet the bateri and the engine would not have entered the vertical tube, which more is obliged to mounted sitting in the wall if the wheel sliding
That is a f*cking shame. 100% motor
Right hand at 2:37...nun said!
2:43 Bonnen does the same. What nun?
Ever riden a bike? he changed gear.
Literally the moment Sean Kelly says the best way to attack the climb is sitting in the saddle and Cancellara does just that...
humanly not possible whithout help...
Check out Cancellara's right hand at 2:37 ... ;)
First time you assume something of someone you don't know ? Guess not, i am cycling 42y straight now ...
Why doesn’t someone do a theoretical calculation on the amount of power put down by Cancellara? It would show that 30 seconds gap on Boonen is impossible.
Yeah. Either Specialized or Team Saxo bank did release some of Fabian's power data from that day. The max power was 1,450 watts, presumably duing that attack.
Cancellaras time up that hill isn't even the fastest . I think the Kom up that hill is like 3 seconds faster than what cancellara did.
He made that gap in seconds, whilst Boonen was still going pretty quickly, not possible with out a motor.
Can you prove ? If not sh1t up !
whahhaha whot a idiots in this world , you boonen struggled meter by meter in the and to get ont top
nice motor
Still wondering and questioning that action being „motorized“?….😉
Sadly you'll never see a better example of motor doping.
Froome in every single one of his TDF wins
@@Michael-hm8cs got a link?
Cancellara with E-Bike
Neanche la telecamera riesce a stargli dietro...
Some motor on Fabio there 😉
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Exactly
That is cheating.
Rev up your engines!
LMAO that made me laugh man
@spabcn I am sorry actually Cancellara did attack but Boonen had cramps as well. So it was like double trouble for him.