Ex-Polygamist Reacts to "Sister Wives" Season 13
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They moved to Flagstaff because Dayton was going to college there. He just didn't want to tell the other wives that.
One of the kids said David applied there cause he wanted to move out. Then Robyn wanted to follow. This is the spectrum kid so I get that. But I really think Kody and Robyn had him apply there I think those kids knew ahead of the rest of them. At this point there were 0-3 kids in the others house. And some of the kids adults in that college age period. Their mistake was not moving so much as creative financing of land and also needing rentals. Christine said she was buying. Kody on that asset. Kody had to get off that asset to get his and Robyn’s much more expensive and larger home. What was a pity is Christine’s mom was living with her. But she didn’t move right? Robyn hired a stranger to nanny. Just saying. AZ so random. I mean no one had family there.
"Grumpy" is the kindest way possible to describe Kody's behavior from here forward.
The rush was 1) because the balloon payments were coming due on the houses, and 2) because Dayton (Robyn's son) got into college in Flagstaff, and was starting in the fall, and she was desperate to have him still live with her. So every other family member had to go along, and THAT's why they had to have rentals as well. If you look, you see the timeline matches, and it's so sad for all the other kids.
Yes I heard the rumor that he had gotten into college there and that was the push
lol I just write something similar whoops should have read comments first!
There were no balloon payments due. That is incorrect information, probably from WOACB. No. Gwen said it was because OF David going to college.
I wonder if Kody hated having the home so close so people can see better what he is up to?
Thank you.
In season 13 we see Kody begin to make himself redundant in these women's lives. As each woman realized that they can do it on their own, they took a step away from Kody. Meri was able to buy the house in Parowan on her own. Christine navigated everything about Ysabel's scoliosis and surgery on her own. Her realization that she did it on her own made me cry. Janelle learned that life was less stressful without Kody in her life during covid quarantines. She preferred life without him.
As you continue to watch the coming seasons, I think you will see that the rush was to get Robyn's son Dayton to Flagstaff before the start of the school year at ASU. This whole move was because Robyn couldn't let her son go to college on his own.
Flagstaff is NAU Northern Arizona University.
So glad Meri got the house it gave her a soft place to land when she finally left Kody❤
Flagstaff is MORE EXPENSIVE than Vegas and always has been.
Kody's need to keep the whole family together has several possible reasons: 1) the show depends on the family operating as a unit; 2) Kody wants to keep his (and Robyn's) access to the money that Meri, Janelle, and Christine bring in to the family; and quite possibly the biggest reason, 3) Kody's need to assert control over the wives and children - "it's all ego baby" - straignt from Kody's own mouth.
Kody is not happy anywhere. That's why he keeps moving. He thinks a new location would make him happy.
wherever he goes - there he is
Do you honestly believe that Kody madr that presentation by himself? He had help.... Robyn's help, that's why she sits there and doesn't say a word while he's presenting. She knows and is 100% behind this idea. She couldn't let Dayton go off to college by himself.
The beginning of the end was, in my opinion, when he started courting Robyn but especially when he picked out Robyn’s wedding dress. The nail in the coffin was when he skipped Isabel’s surgery. And when Christine left, he was embarrassed and dropped all pretense of fairness and we saw who he’d been all along to them when we weren’t watching.
TBH, I’m kind of glad he didn’t go. Sad for Ysabel, but that’s when Christine realized she didn’t need him and I think it was the key to her freedom.
The main "purpose" for Kody wanting to move to Flagstaff was that Robyn's son, Dayton, was moving there to go to college and Robyn could not bear for Dayton to be that far away from her control. Hence the urgency to move before school started - even though Kody tried to frame it like it was for all the kids. He only cared what made Robyn happy. The history of tha past with the other wives told him that he could convince them to move just like he'd done many, many times before. And, Sam, I'm with you - that weird half moustache/goatee facial hair was the MOST ridiculous look Kody has sported.
I don't ever watch Sister Wives, but I never miss Sam and Melissa discussing the episodes! 😅 I guess I feel that Sam and Melissa are much more interesting than the assorted Brown family members.
Why Flagstaff? Dayton was accepted to university in Flagstaff. Robyn wanted to move to Flagstaff take care of him. I think that Robyn would have relocated to Flagstaff with her kids without Kody or the rest of the family to be with Dayton. She would have expected the Brown family to finance her. Kody did not want to be left behind therefore his panic to move the entire family so that he could be with Robyn. BTW, Paedon has said that Dayton wanted to go to Flagstaff on his own for the full university experience. Robyn going with him was not his idea.
What a nightmare to get to leave home for a college experience only to have mommy follow you there. Dayton would have been fine. If he could not handle it, he could return home. Now he has a college degree & still is not on his own.
Even worse, Dayton got booted from the main house and lives in the backyard in a camper 😂 what an amazing college experience he had.
@@meadows2260 Dayton wanted to keep going to school during covid and was therefore evicted from the main house. He moved into a camper on the property.
@@cathywithac ah, got it! Makes sense I guess. It would have been messed up if Dayton was allowed to attend in-person class but also be allowed to be close to the family….meanwhile Kody was losing his mind over every other non-Robyn kids being “jerks” about his covid rules.
@@meadows2260 Yes, Robyn and Kody found a solution for Dayton yet Kody refused to make any allowances or find solutions with his other kids or wives.
Christine said her kids noticed her relationship with Kody being strained in Vegas. They saw more than viewers did for sure.
This was when the tide turned for me and how I viewed Kody. He was goofy and hyper until then. But the Flagstaff move and the manipulation; plus bad planning was off putting.
Same. This season lost me.
I’ve been watching another channel that follows Sister Wives and just learned the UK and Australian channels that carry the show, show longer clips with information that we never seen more.
I’ve been watching her too. It’s kind of nice to hear that Robyn has told Kody he’s an idiot, to put it lightly. I wonder how he talks to her. I’d believe it if he’s taking all his anger out on her now that everyone else is getting the heck away from her.
What channel is it? Is it possible to watch in the US?
Kody’s statement when one go we all go didn’t really apply to the wives and kids themselves/it more so applied to that TLC paycheck and the extra income those working wives brought into the family pot/no way was he leaving HIS money makers behind with his money and a chance to think for themselves nooo way😅
One more quick comment. Kody needed the family to stay together, move together rush…rush…rush. Why? The show. Kody had to keep the wives bought in to keep the show. They had all gone along with his whims before but now they knew the disparity in their relationships compared to Robyn plus they had older kids who didn’t just step in line. Kody had complete control before. He wants the TLC money. Everyone’s money went into one pot that Kody then gave them budgets. He had the ultimate say (“hey Christine, if you want to go on a vacation, save your grocery money!”). This coming from the mouth of the person who always needed a sports car, invested in who knows what. He had no accountability. Janelle probably knows the most since she handled the books.
I have also heard speculation that the move to Flagstaff was a ploy to force the wives to sell the Vegas homes because they were not in Kody’s name. After that, he was more careful about making sure his name was on most of the assets.
I see you’re getting the real truth in your comments already. It’s true that there were two main reasons: 1. Balloon payments coming due But the main reason s: 2. Dayton being accepted at NAU. Most kids get their letters in March. My niece did that same year in March. It as disgusting seeing Kody trying to sweet talk Meri and Christine by taking them on a private trip to Flagstaff. Kody and Robyn had already decided the family’s future. That’s why nothing makes sense.
A lot of us also read their book. So we had that insight watching it all unfold over the seasons.
Christine was already done with Kody. That is why she desperately didn't want to agree to one house. She was already planning her exit strategy. Had kody been mentally present and genuinely tried to fix their marriage, she would have done one house.
I wonder if Kody was afraid of a wife staying in Vegas. Like when Janelle left the family for a bit that one time they moved? It was a detail in the book and it sounded like Kody had a hard time getting her to come back. (When Kody needed Janelle to buy the house we saw in season 1)
I had to Google Kody's season 13 facial hair situation. I agree with Sam.
Kody needed "where one goes, we all go" because robyn needed to move first for Dayton. And kody knew he'd be back and forth between Vegas and flagstaff spending time away from Robyn and dealing with 3 other moves, which he DID NOT want to do
Kody did nothing to help the 3 wives move to Flagstaff. He would just ask them if they had found a place to live. Totally checked out for his 13 kids & 3 wives.
33:07 i am SO glad you being this up because Christine wanted to leave early AND HE SAID NO!!!!
I think the insistence about moving all at once is about the time that Janelle stayed behind in Montana when the family moved to Lehi. Kody wants to assert control.
To answer “why the rush?” My opinion, Brown’s make horrible financial decisions, securing the financing on those houses was difficult, I think they had some sort of balloon payment coming due.
This makes sense to me. Unfortunately they ended up holding onto those houses so long.
That equity nonsense means that it belongs to Kody. Kody is exhibiting one of his narcissistic traits, impatience and that often leads to a bad move.
Dayton was accepted in school in Arizona and since he's on the spectrum Robyn didn't want him to go alone.
They moved to Begas because Robyn has family there. They moved to flagstaff because Dayton was accepted to college there.
Kody did what robyn wanted. He didn't care if the others left him over it because he was already done with them. He just needed to free up the money
I remember Kody didn’t want to invest with family money into it. So she did it herself. But in this family everything is a secret or hidden. Plus we don’t know how much TLC was involved for drama
My thoughts was Kody was reading the writing on the wall that Christine and Meri were going to eventually leave him. His name was on nothing in Vegas. His name is on everything. Christine was the only one who owned a home. Meri and Janelle were renting. Meri had the parwan home which gives her something. Janelle trusted Kody and Robyn and has nothing.
I only started watching SW from this season and that move to flagstaff just felt like the beginning of the end for them all together. Looking forward to you reacting to kodys covid rules
The place Aspyn and Mitch got married really is beautiful.
Robyn made it clear that she was going to move near Dayton's school. Period. She told Kody to figure it out. Kody had already told her that he doesn't consider himself married to the others and wanted monogamy. Kody said he'll figure it out. Period.
That move to Flagstaff never made sense. Too impulsive. They put down roots in Vegas with each wife having their own home. In Flagstaff they were all disjointed. And that fairytale joint house was a pipe dream.
The kids were in high school & had sports & friends & were forced to give that all up. Did Kody or Robyn care that everyone had to move for her son to attend college? It's ridiculous. If Kody is the head of the family, he needed to say this is where we stay because it is not fair to move everyone when their lives are established here. Buying the property was a bad financial move as well. One dumb thing after another = Kody.
In the end though, the three OG wives are each in a much better place than they were as Kody's afterthoughts. it seems that most of the kids are doing well, aside from the tragedy of Garrison.
Your assessment of people living in Las Vegas is so correct. I moved to Vegas in 1977. Raised my children here and consider this my home. In fact, I live within walking distance of the Sister Wives' former houses. I spotted Robin in Walmart once and spotted Cody and Robin and some kids at Olive Garden. I took pictures of a friend's daughter for prom and saw Christine taking pictures of Maddie at the same group spot. lol
Also didn’t Robin’s dad live in Flagstaff and Dayton started school there? I may be wrong, but feeling like I heard this was the reason for the move. 🤷🏻♀️
The move was never about anyone but Kody..and Robyn..and Dayton.
Don't you think it was the production of the show who wanted it this way, and it was Kody who had to bring it to the wives but couldn't say 'Hey, this is what production wants' on camera? They all do financially depend on the show. They can not afford their lifestyle without the show. I think that's why the wives eventually gave in. For example, it looks so much better on camera if they all live in the same house and all move at the same time, even though it's not practical at all.
Dayton got into college there. Again, everyone uproots to accommodate Robyn and her kids 😢
Meri was already being ostracised way before she bought the house in Parawaon. She got put down by the others every step of the way, they pretty much said she was crazy, greedy, stupid, whatever. Then when it looked like she would get the house, all they could see was $$$$ signs and got snarky when she said they weren’t getting any of the profits. She asked for a loan, they said no, so she did it on her own and they didn’t like that either. They didn’t want anything to do with it, but they were so nasty when she got it, and gave her a hard time again just because she hadn’t told them……wish they would make up their minds. Then Kody tries to take the limelight at the opening. Best thing Meri ever did was buy that house. All Kody saw in Meri was money.
I think Meri knew that Robyn would have a big part of the ownership and I think she already saw the writing on the wall. She knew he only loved her and their relationship was too manipulative.
U all don't know they left Vegas so Robin's son Daton could go to college in AZ in the fall.
Sure we do!
The wives all had the houses in their own names in Vegas. Kody need them to sell those houses and get that $$ into the family funds ( and eventually buy R the house of her dreams. Thank God he took his name off Christine’s house in Flagstaff and she got out with some $$$).
Pictures of Kody in early seasons versus now, he looks very very different, don’t know if it’s steroids or just the stress of life, he looks quite unhappy now
The fact that they move every few years for no reason is crazy to me. If they remembered how miserable they were living separately those first 2 years in Vegas, then I can't understand why they agreed to separate again. The reasons made no sense at all
I firmly believe it was because Dayton was going to college in Flagstaff AND he already didn’t want the other wives to where he was at (Robyn’s house) at all times PLUS he probably already knew Christine wasn’t happen and wanted to isolate the OG wives. Because technically they each had their own homes in Vegas!! Financially he can control them in Flagstaff so they can’t leave because everything is tied up with him.
The only reason was for Robyn’s son was going to college there. They didn’t tell anyone till the move was agreed on. Sneaky moves the family was not important to either of them.
The 1 house idea is the start of Robyn not having to soeak ON AIR! The OG3 have to speak and carry the show!
I don’t know why they didn’t just buy 4 townhomes 3-4 bed and living in the same neighborhood? Why did one of them need 4,400ft2. Even Meri got the huge home for gatherings, of which they had a few years then COVID. Christine’s bought home 2,400ft2. Janelle seemed similar in size to Christine but rented.
I think it had to do with their balloon loans on the homes coming up too. But they wouldn’t have mentioned that🤣🤣🤣 Robin got her pick where to move because her son wanted to attend college there too. Not suitcase she got her way/choice
Any year they moved or wanted to delay moving someone’s kid would be disrupted. Delaying would have been hard on Robyn’s daughters. Janelle’s kids bore the brunt of Vegas and AZ moves. I think they needed a storyline as well as Kody reigning back the finances. He knew some were leaving. Were not going to be distracted with kids in the house he was not there.
Actually I did some math looking up birthdays and graduations. It turns out the timing of the move was perfect for three students. David Brown and Breanna Brown and Sol Brown, all of them Robyn’s. The oldest entering college first year. The second starting high school in the fall. Sol starting 1st. Savannah moved to a new school for 8th grade. Terribly grade to move, I moved for 8th grade. Not recommended. She is not Robyn’s kid but Janelle’s. Ysabel, Aurora, Gwen and Gabe were all moving during their high school years. Two kids Christine’s and one Janelle’s and one Robyn’s. Sol was meant to entering 1st grade. Robyn’s. Not a terrible grade to change schools. So of the 4 kids of Robyn’s in school 3 of them transferred ideal years to transfer. Truely was entering 3rd based on her birthday. There is a chance with the younger ones that they started kdg late. I’m just going by ages. We know the years Savannah on up graduated. Gabe was begging to stay with Maddie in Vegas. Team and girlfriend and transferring half way through high school a bad idea. Different states have different credits and paths of courses each year to meet graduation requirements. Maddie said she was moving and Janelle said no to Gabe anyway you are living with your mom. Rightly so. Janelle didn’t want to do to Gabe what they did to Hunter. But they did it anyway. Gabe worked to finish high school 6 months earlier. He still did high school in AZ but finished early. If they waited 5 years Savannah would have graduated by then. Leaving only 3 minor kids. The oldest of those 3 kids in middle school. No idea what they mean by concern over leaving in 5 years. They already had several kids in high school not done in high school at the time of moving and during the five years before the next possible move. If they waited 2 more years three more kids don’t with high school.
Kody legitimately lost me in this season. After this I lost a lot of interest in the show because it was so ridiculous. It put them in financial straits and it was unnecessary.
Are their names on the show their actual legal names?
Season 13 was all about manipulation. Robyn needed to go to Flagstaff for Dayton. Kody needed the other wives to go for Robyn. So he lead Meri on and Christine pretending like he wanted to make their relationships better in Flagstaff, so they would both agree to move.
Haha, "Where We Go One We Go All" that Kody said is actually a QAnon reference (if you ever see flags with WWG1WGA that's what it means), even though he used the phrase about his family, I'd bet money he's Q-pilled and picked it up that way.
Dayton was going to be starting college a NAU. They wanted to be there for that.
Why they would uproot the best situation they ever had, I will never understand
They are in a subdivision. They can’t just build a condo building in the middle of it.
I personally would love a house like he got the plans for to give our children the option after college and our oldest daughter just told us she is pregnant and due in October it would be a great option for her after she has the baby if she and her husband didn’t want to have no choice but put the baby in childcare and our oldest son is having trouble finding his footing and he keeps moving in and out of our house …that would be a great option for him as he’s still finding his. Iche’
I cracked up when Kody said they were moving to Flagstaff to be with like minded people. Yeah a bunch of polygamist there too huh? Or is it his other views he’s expressed on that radio station?😂
Cody pushed her out after Robin who I despise now they don't like her standing up for her self
$$$$ is the reason to keep Meri!
Did you notice how disorganised Robyn was moving, he wants to keep everyone together he wants to be in charge and for the show
When the Browns fled Las Vegas, the homes were left in a condition not ready to show or sell. If Robyn had to be in Flagstaff for Dayton, at least have the house clean & ready for the market. Who behaves this way. The 3 wives should have let K&R leave & sold their homes before leaving. No reason they all had to race out of LV. It boggles the mind for adults to behave this way & why buy land on top of it. Fiscally did not make sense. This is what happens when you yoke yourself to an idiot & his nutball controlling wife.
There were more problems than we knew at this point. I suspect Kody wanted to move in a hurry (possibly) to put pressure on Meri and try to force her hand to leave him. I think his ego was way more bruised over the catfishing situation than he let’s on. Not that he wanted to be with Meri, but having all these women hang around him and claiming to be a part of his family was a big ego trip for him. In fact I think this move to Flagstaff is Kody “choosing happiness” so to speak. He doesn’t want to admit it but he’s through with polygamy- actually lol he does admit it. He picks his wives off one by one, using first this move, then Covid as an excuse to cause turmoil and strife to literally destroy his family. I suspect he’s always used stress to control his family even over the little things, blowing things out of proportion so he doesn’t have to do anything he doesn’t want to do. That’s a big reason why Christine says it’s easier when he’s not around.
Kody admits nothing. This move was all Robin.
I never saw the ex polygamist speak? I’m confused🫤
If a traditional Mormon were left-wing, he could just defend Polygamy on the basis of equity etc. and add another letter to the LGBT (&etc.) alphabet. But the problem is that polygamy is seen as anti-woman while, for whatever reason, something like an "open marriage" is not.
Robyn is being a liar. It was cause he kid was there.
Thank goodness their names not on it.
Sam, has any of your Dad’s wives left the family?
None of them left but 2 have passed away now.
I love your content but I just can't watch these videos anymore. Kody is disgusting and hearing him f up his family for absolutely no reason is too triggering. There is nothing of value from their show and as much as I love this channel I just can't support anything that encourages sister wives to continue
Remember the sw people are being paid to do what they are doing!
Season 14 - angry Kody has appeared but I still don’t know why Robyn is the bad guy based on this season.
It’s all because he is a covert narcissist. That’s all.
Polygamists can’t do math. Financial or otherwise. He is so bad at math.
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R should have went there and the others should have stayed ! No one can trust KB and I won’t watch their show because of their abuse they inflicted on the og children and the og wives !!!! I can’t even stand the voices of R and K and all their manipulation and lies !!!!! I do keep up with them but will come On you tube to watch !!!!
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Unless I am greatly mistaken, you are an ex polygamist if you used to have multiple spouses. Sam is someone who grew upin a polygamous sect with a father who had multiple wives.
You're both very likeable. I would love to see Melissa break herself of the habit of using the word "like" like, every other word. You both misuse the word "literally" as well. Nothing personal.