Oliver Stone: Vladimir Putin and War in Ukraine | Lex Fridman Podcast
Oliver Stone is a filmmaker with 3 Oscar wins and 11 Oscar nominations. His films include Platoon, Wall Street, Born on the Fourth of July, Scarface, JFK, Nixon, Alexander, W, Snowden, and documentaries where he has interviewed Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Vladimir Putin. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
2:54 - Nuclear power
15:52 - Russia and US relations
21:07 - JFK and the Cold War
26:24 - Interviewing Putin
50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine
59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine
1:13:44 - Propaganda
1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022
1:28:17 - Nuclear war
1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing
1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler
1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier
1:42:41 - Love
1:44:36 - Advice to young people
1:47:42 - Mortality
1:48:44 - Regrets
1:50:41 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Novo: novo.co/lex - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - SimpliSafe: simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour 2:54 - Nuclear power 15:52 - Russia and US relations 21:07 - JFK and the Cold War 26:24 - Interviewing Putin 50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine 59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine 1:13:44 - Propaganda 1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022 1:28:17 - Nuclear war 1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing 1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler 1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier 1:42:41 - Love 1:44:36 - Advice to young people 1:47:42 - Mortality 1:48:44 - Regrets 1:50:41 - Meaning of life
Have a good week Lex !
Great interview ♥️♥️♥️
Why don't you talk about ISRAELI OCCUPATION SIR. IF RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE , WHY DON'T PEOPLE OF USA OPPOSE ISRAELI OCCUPATION ? Hypocrisy is the word for this phenomenal support of Usa Government.
@@shakebraza196 that's one point of view...everyone has their opinion
@@shakebraza196 Perhaps he does not have all the time to talk about everything that everyone cares about, or perhaps his guests are talking about certain topics, given the limited time they have. Oliver Stone could talk about multiple topics, they just have to choose what is interesting to him and current. I think that a 1000 interviews could be made just with the topic you are referring to. Blaming an interviewer for not choosing what you want to talk about, perhaps, not the right way...By the way, this can lead to WW 3, so it is a strong topic, perhaps stronger than others, although other topics might still be very interesting.
“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.” - Edward Snowden
@@greg5023 should they have stayed and be prosecuted by criminals?
Snowden is hiding out in Moscow and is awfully quiet in the face of Russia's war crimes against the Ukrainians. His silence speaks volumes.
@@shafferd90 you and many others are mixing the terms a bit between War, Invasion, Special Operation, especially and deliberately in Western MSM media, it is the similar situation with mixing terms, when in Christianity for example, especially in the West, Jesus is God, and Jesus itself said he is "son of God" 😀 War=when two or more countries are shooting at each other for prolonged period of time, no matter if its a Full Invasion or Special Operation or whatsoever, so this in Ukraine is War between Russia and Ukraine (and proxy War between Russia and US/UK but thats another subject) however its not an Invasion, it is a Operation and that is as clear as a day. Invasion = when one country officially declares a war against other country or countries, and uses maximum available forces to destroy and fully invade that country, Operation (special or you name it) = War is not declared by the attacking Country against the attacked one, attacking country uses limited resources in order to achieve only specific goals without fully invading some country. For example, war between US and Vietnam during majority of time was more Special Operation than Full Invasion, War against Serbia in 99 was also a Operation and not a full invasion, War in Libya was a Operation and not an Invasion, War against Iraq on the other hand in 2003 was a full Invasion as there was no special objectives but total defeat and destruction of Iraq (aside the weapons of mass destruction 😉) and they succeeded I believe - 1milion deaths, mostly civilians unfortunately but it is what it is, WW2 of course was not an Operation of any kind, it was Germany, Japan and etc. Invasion on various countries across the globe. So practically its not correct that when those specific journalist in Russia say in public media that Russian actions in Ukraine are not a "War" but not a "Special Operation" which is an official statement and strategy of the country officials, those journalists are practically being hostile against its own country or are considered as such, especially in this kind of "be or not to be" situation Russia is. So War is always War, but there is a big difference between Invasion and Special Operation.
@@shafferd90 exposing American war crimes is apparently a crime in America as well, punishable by death.
Edward is in Moscow now and yet I don't hear him speaking out about Russian State crime. He is trapped and every day his outrage at the USA data gathering is losing it's inertia, big whoop. Now his real fear is Putin. He's a smart guy and he probably wonders if his Russian girlfriend is a plant and why does it all have to be so ironic. Edward is hollow - full stop.
As a someone who lives in Ukraine right now ( two last days city`s been shelled) I struggle with the urge to give in to my emotions and just let Oliver have it ( You really stop listening to geopolitical littanies after months of war). Before the February 24th , I was and still consider Mr. Stone a brilliant filmmaker, I`ve seen about dozen of his movies which I enjoyed to different extends. I do agree with his notions on how US has operated in the world since the WW2, however I tend to notice that Oliver is in a sense oblivious to the facts of similar deeds on the USSR side and of course on the Russian side. Russia has created grey zones during the Putin administration ( internationally unrecognized states) around its borders: Transnistria,PRD,PRL,Crimea,Abkhazia,Ossetia,Nagorno-Karabakh.And it seems to me that he assumed that the 72 hour operation of taking over Ukraine by coup d`etat would be yet again completely justifiable. He conveniantly criticizes EU propaganda and omits the fact that in Russia any independent media outlet was closed (( Dozhd,Meduza, Echo of Moscow (were kicked out of their office after 32 years of work) , Novaya Gazeta with Nobel Peace prize winner chief-editor Dmitry Muratov, Nevzorov was persecuted out of country) The ridiculous idea that Ukraine would somehow attack Donbas with 120 000 troops whith 230 000 Russian troops at its borders is out of this world. Stone himself said that Ukrainian forces were amassed there in response to the Russian build up. And another question is: with what? Bayraktar and Javelin ?Our president has spent the last three months asking from the very basic sorts of millitary equipment to tanks and artillery. We litteraly had a bunch of old Soviet tanks , modern drones and NLAWs. And against us were the army with Iscanders, missile cruisers , supersonic missiles etc. If we WERE to attack than why just don`t let us do it and make culprits of ourselves and retaliate? There would be a much less public support to the Ukrainian aggressors if we were ones. What`s infuriating to me is Mr. Stones sentiment about how Russia cares about the Russian speaking population in the Donbass region. You can find Nataliya Zubarevich( Professor at the Department of Economic and Social Geography of Russia Faculty of Geography, Moscow State University) about how Russia cares about the people who already are its citizens. To believe that Russia cares about Ukrainian Russian-speaking citizens is the same as to believe that the US cared about Afghanis or Iraqis . The mere fact that after three months of war Mr. Oliver hasn`t bothered to read about Ukraine-Russia relations is appaling, I`ve listened to many of his interviews before and can confidently say that his perspective wasn`t altered or upgraded at all. So how do you expect me to change my views, which believe me, have changed dramatically, if you don`t even care to get a more deep understanding of the topic? Thank You for reading this and please let me know what`s your opinion on this.
After you’re naming Medusa an “independent media” I could proceed reading this bullshit… I know personally these ppl, met them I live in riga as they do!
You're so right. Deeply dissapointed.
Respect that you can reflect intellectually...I’m 45 min in this interview and need a break from this Putin fan club...
Well said! I am not even Ukrainian and it was appalling even to me how much excusing he is doing to Russian Imperialism altogether, all the while, criticizing the US for the very same thing...? If you're looking at both sides, why not criticize both sides of the imperialism coin? And then somehow drawing loose parallels, that it is in fact, US imperialism that is somehow responsible for Russian imperialism? Absolutely laughable. The interview is good, and I'm glad Lex did it, but all in all, if I was Lex I would have challenged him more and pressed him to explain his positions and exactly what he means and why he means as he does. It just feels he's insensitive to all the people who were oppressed and suffered under USSR/Russian imperialism. The topic is UKRAINE invasion. Not Iraq etc invasions???? Seriously...
Thank you for your comment and I hope you are, and will continue to be, alright despite the shelling. Knowing that Oliver Stone is most likely a smart man, due to his amazing films, many of which I adore to death, one must wonder what the reasons behind him peddling Kremlin propaganda could be.
Years ago, Mr. Stone sat next to me at a TED conference. I was thinking holy sh*t that's Oliver Stone. I was thinking about what I might say to him and he just starting commenting to me about the speaker on the stage, and we just had this cool friends sitting next to each kind of conversation. I'll never forget that. Probably the most real person I met in my years of going to the early TED conferences.
You should have told him he should have taken the blue pill.
There are those in this world who purposefully shoulder more responsibility on their shoulders for the benefit of humanity and I put Oliver Stone in the top rank. Thank you for all of your dedication.
Correct analysis
All of stone is a propagandist, unfortunately. Brilliant movie maker. But total scumbag after re-watching this year and a half later. Total scumbag full of either lies or false beliefs. Is rather amazing.
He's a spineless sensationalist. I wouldn't trust him alone with my dog, let alone rely on him for political analysis
"A healthy democracy will take criticism and shrug it off." So true.
@Al Coholic that's how it's shrugged off.
That's how it's shrugged off
@@dangdoldangdol9568 So who gets to measure “healthy and educate?”
Someone needs to read Plato's Republic. democracy is MOB RULE. You don't want to live in a democracy.
Yeah so true. Too bad Stone’s idol Putin kills anyone who criticizes him.
"The real President is the one in control of the teleprompter."
Lmao
Yup. Elon's "Anchorman"
Biden loves his teleprompter... too much.🤣
Speech writers are trash too
If your going to quote someone you should write the person's name from who your quoting below the quote. In this case your quote is from Elon Musk.
Platoon was such a great war movie, me and my dad, watched it probably 100 times together
If Dad is still alive, watch MERRILL'S MARAUDERS, BIG RED ONE, THE STEEL HELMET, and FIXED BAYONETS together.
@@beausie-woesieherewegoesie2548 no
So sorry. I miss my dad too.@d3maccus
Russia during Gorbachev - peaceful relationship, peace dividend, Russia had sovereignty. Then he says US is denying Russia sovereignty when Putin is in charge. Problematic. Stone is on an island .
I miss my papa
Would be very interesting to repeat this interview with Oliver Stone, 2 years into the Ukraine war and find out if any of his views have changed since
Wouldnt think so.
I would say not!
Now that you have interviewed Oliver Stone, and with the views he has, it would be good and fair to interview Gary Kasparov, as he has the opposite view and he is Russian.
He isn’t Russian he is one of those ethnic Jews who is anything at all but not Russian, as anti-Russian as it can be in fact..
That would be amazing! I love Kasparov
Kasparov is actually Azeri/Armenian which was part of the soviet union
Gary Kasparov is not Russian.
he already did
I love the way you let OS speak. I fundamentally disagree with his position, but it is good to hear him articulate it without opposition or interruption. You see more of the man this way. Well done.
Can you please point out with what you disagree and why. Thank you...
You don't believe Ukraine is full of Nazis... and they attacked the Donbass for 8 years before the invasion.
Yeah. Please explain why you disagree with he's way of seeing things
I also disagree with much that Mr. Stone espouses, but I found the interview interesting. He doesn’t acknowledge that Communism is, at its core, a system that creates a society of servitude. Compare that with the founding principals of the US, which fundamentally gives each individual the right to choose his/her own path, to prosper, or not. Stone seems to gives less governmentally-moral countries a pass, but doesn’t do so for his own. He has always made his living off of pointing-out what he believes to be the flaws of America. I also think that he mischaracterizes Putin, as if he were someone to admire. In reality, I believe that Putin is a cold-blooded killer. Just ask the great majority of Ukrainians.
I feel that Mr Stone has an unbound capacity for introspection and that that is worthy and admirable - to better understand the need to express humanity at every juncture.
Would love to hear a conversation between RFK & Oliver Stone
sure, me too! they actually know each other, and live close to one another
That's a good one.....make it happen Lex
Oh god please no
RFK jr. is a zionist shill like all politicians in the U.S. are. He supports the people who killed his father and uncle and I find that despicable.
The best way to know one's position is to shut up and listen. Thank you for not interrupting him.
While our view of Putin may not be anywhere near as complimentary as Mr Stone's, he speaks from his experience of meeting and spending time interviewing him. I also don't necessarily share his views and perspective in some things, he gives a very open and honest perspective. I really like Lex's way of allowing his guests to express and explain their views freely in a non-combative and belligerent way. A lot of people in the comments prefer the aggressive and critical approach, debates and arguments but this is a very refreshing approach to hearing different views and perspectives and allowing listeners to form their own views. Thank you, Lex. Strength to you and your work.
What has shaped your views on Putin? What Putin himself says and does, or what the Western media say about him and how do they "interpret" what he said?
@@lanija19 On Putin or anyone - it is what they do. There may be some truth in his accusations of NATO expansion but Eastern European countries have chosen to join NATO because of his aggression. He invaded Ukraine and is the aggressor. In human history there has been no other person that has threatened human existence as he has. Western countries like the US have blood on their hands but he has threaten use of nuclear weapons which has always been a deterrent and assured mutual and global destruction. If Putin were to launch a nuclear attack even a so-called tactical use, that would be suicide and if it resulted in mass extinction - he will become the most infamous human that ever lived. I really don't have much regard for any form of media. There is a very thin line between what we have called media and social media. There is such a radical polarization of views, we have lost the moderate and logical center and the fringe of lies and conspiracy theories is now the air people breathe. Earth is not flat and there is no flat political spectrum, it is a sphere - you go far enough left or right and you end up in the same place and most people left and right are on the dark side of that political moon.
@@lanija19 perhaps the fact that he invaded Ukraine and killed tens of thousands of people?
@@TheSteinbitt It is the Kiev regime that had killed more than ten thousand civilians in Donbass before Russia intervened. The war there started in 2014.
@@lanija19 Russia “intervened” in both Donbas and krimea with their “little green men” annexing krimea and creating a rebellion and separatist movement in Donbas. What would Russia have done if Ukraine started helping opposition “liberate” Kaliningrad? Stood by idle? Lol
Take note, this is how you interview a guest. You actually let them speak and let them finish their thoughts. Excellent work Lex. A+++
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Let them speak, but ask hard questions that show you have understood the situation yourself and not just a bullhorn for the extreme.
So just let people lie?
@@dagjohansen8641 whats he lieing about
@@dennisrodman8997 It is easier if you just tell us all what Stone is saying that is a proven truth.
One of the rare free- thinking people in this chaotic world- Oliver Stone! Great respect to you, sir! 🙏❤️
Stone is a charlatan
@@XerxesGammon200 A charlatan because the government told you so in their media? Don't smoke propaganda, think with your head, not your ass.
Mister Stone you are a leading filmmaker in Hollywood. Full of humanity.
It’s refreshing to see an interviewer allowing Oliver Stone to talk without interrupting, I just discovered this guy I subscribed it.
it is nice to let ppl talk, however it would be great to confront ppl with truth and Stone obviously is not able to understand the problems in their complexity and thinks that there is a easy solution for everything, but imperialistic US government holds everything back. Good as cult religion but obviously far from reality.
@@pumahuhu365, the only reason Oliver stone sees Putin that way it’s because he always gets the blame in the west, Putin move in Ukraine is purely defensive you need to know what happened 4 months before Russia moved to Ukraine.
Interview would have been more interesting with some tough questions and rebuttals. He basically brought him on to spew Russian propaganda. Pretty much nothing Oliver said was news. This is what you will hear in Russian State TV. He is just parroting most of it. Funny he has such a problem with propaganda and corruption, but not on the Russian side. Completely dishonest individual.
He started one thing that is important about Putin and if you pay close attention to Putin you will see Oliver Stone is right he said Putin always comes with fact contrary to what we have in the west.
@@vladimirthenailer2035 In Russia we feel a world a little bit different. i dont know why it leads to war with europe every 100 years LUL
I never felt inclined to and never bothered leaving any comments at anything anywhere, however I've only just discovered Lex Fridman. Aside from his guests' personal views and opinions, I'm very impressed with his interviewing skills. The angle from which he drives the conversation, his manner and tone when asking his questions. It is always respectful and curious which in the end always translates to very insightful conversations. Great job.
He gives me market researcher vibes, except he gets to ask questions about genuinely interesting things and have more of a real insightful conversation as opposed to having to rush through certain talking points.
Apart from letting Roger Stoned uninterruptedly give a warped Putin centric view of the world, sometimes even when letting people speak you should call them out, it's healthy.. But Lex himself seems biased towards Russia anyway so maybe he just quietly completely agrees with this whacko.
I absolutely agree with you. Lex Fridman was as mesmerising as Oliver Stone. I will certainly follow Lex from now on.
Very hypnotic those two toads... Wonder if theyre on LSD
Russia takes $720,000,000 / day from EU for gas supply There is no other choice but nuclear, to stay competitive, which means most advanced. No future as a world leader without nuclear, unless u own all the oil.. Ukraine is target for oil / gas reserves, easily dominating EU delivery once on line. Methane may be catalytically converted to H, is a preferred fuel in SpaceX rocket launch, who exactly is in control of US ..those same who led all wars.. Ballot box ? Ha
I would be very pleased if mr Stone interviewed regular people in Ukraine.
He would love to do that but he was banned by their government
No, he wouldn’t because I would require him to get both sides of a story, men like this, or not interested in that they’re only interested in reinforcing their own bias believe.
putin puppet doesn't like to face reality
@@AnthonyBlamthony I don't think you're right here. Mr Stone has very specific view on the American government and politics in general. He has a bit of communists views as far as I can tell. In fact, communism is not a bad thing at all, it is, however, very prone to corruption and dictatorship. That is why he took interviews of several dictators. But what I think he doesn't realize is that these dictators are extremely charismatic and persuasive. In combination, these 2 qualities can make you believe that a cow is a rat.
@@ddal3998You just poorly explained why the person you were responding to was right.
Thank you for such an amazing interview, it is very inspiring!!!!!
--- TimeStamps --- 00:00 - Introduction 02:54 - Nuclear power 15:52 - Russia and US relations 21:07 - JFK and the Cold War 26:24 - Interviewing Putin 50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine 59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine 1:13:44 - Propaganda 1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022 1:28:17 - Nuclear war 1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing 1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler 1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier 1:42:41 - Love 1:44:36 - Advice to young people 1:47:42 - Mortality 1:48:44 - Regrets 1:50:41 - Meaning of life
Thank you 😊
Timestamps were available since the upload
Nice job. Ty. You should send this to the Duran email & maybe they can implement you're handy work. 💁♂️🍻
and 31.45
Thanks
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever." George Orwell
That's a sick quote. Depressing though haha
Oliver Stone blaming neoconservatives for the war in Ukraine and other USA war "operations" around the world is laughable; as if is wasn't Joe Biden signing for the $40 billions to go to Ukraine, as if is not Pelosi and the company pushing for this war, as if the Democrats are no running the USA right now, as if it wasn't Obama and Hillary waging some of the wars in the Middle East and Libya . And what is wrong with Oliver Stone ? How nuts can he be , voting for the demented Biden? He did not see that Biden was senile? Trump has not gotten in any war but Biden is going to take USA to war with China , next.
@@kelvinlewis3947 Emotional discharge you have.
From The Ministry of Truth War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength - George Orwell 1984
@@kelvinlewis3947 Yes, depressing but true.
You are a solid individual. Thank you for your podcast Lex.
Lex is super unlikely, man!
I started listening to this interview thinking I would have to cut off at some point and attend to some chores - but kudos to both of you. Oliver Stone is a gem of a person. May there be more people like him in the West.
Yup. Same thing with me
Great director, blatant putinphile and propagandist.
Except for him praising Putin, which is a complete load of shit.
There is more value in a 10 minute clip from Lex interviews than the average person will gain from watching MSM for a year.
LOL!
1 minute clip will get you a lifetime of fox news
It's depressing how often "stop mindlessly accepting everything the MSM tells you" becomes "start mindlessly accepting everything this alternative media source tells you".
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Well said. Great voice for a podcast. Great interviewer . A pleasure to listen and learn.
"Censorship is a way of life when democracies also feel threatened. They're much more fragile than they pretend to be. A healthy democracy will take all the criticism in the world and shrug it off. And say okay that's what's good about our country." That's a good point. Whether you agree with his opinions or not.
The US and other Democracies are criticized ad nauseum, I have no idea what Stone is on about here.
Isn’t it funny how dictators can be so honest and gentle with a star film maker and yet have jails filled with political prisoners and dissidents?
You mean like Assange?
in belgium they censored Russia Insight, Russia Today, and a lot of people support censorship.
@@rdalge And what do you think the Democratic Party tried to do to Trump? Just because they failed doesn't make them different from any autocracy or dictatorship.
You introduction was moving - may we some how find a path to peace and leave war as a horror in our past. God bless you Lex. Thanks for doing what your doing. Xx
What a fantastic person. I thought I would listen just a bit and just couldn't stop listening.
The fact that he's not interrupting is just awesome as fk
I appreciate Lex for that!
Yes
yeah, does he usually interrupt his guests then? because i don't appreciate that sort of so-called-journalism or info-tainment, haha...unless it's alex jones, that is:: alex doesn't need guests unless they're superduper powerful, and that happens fairly seldom... owen shroyer's apparently taken over now, which is a bit of a drag, tho he's good, he's no-alex-jones, but nobody is, man...
@@jackieann5494 well dang, jackie: {sorry, i say that to almost everyone, and they never appreciate it, ha ha, isn't that funny?}
@@SerbanTV i guess i don't get it tho: why would we expect him to be interruptin' folks: even lex luthor, had really good manners, y'know? oh, hey: i might ask, if you don't mind, do they not behave so well, then, in hell? {dang, jackie, ha ha}
Stone: "Poland has always been attacking Russia as far as I remember back to another century I mean the two world wars that occupied Russia".. interesting lol
Yup, that's how that all went down. Poland attacking Russia. Definitely.
There is ‘something’ wrong with Stone
Oliver “ Stoned” is how Gerald R. Ford viewed him, I tend to agree.
I found this statement confusing as well. He clearly had a warped view of world history. He must have forgotten how many times Poland has been invaded and occupied in just last couple centuries.
It's true they were constantly in war. He meant the Lithuania Poland commonwealth up to 19 century, Poland and Russia were 2 powerhouses in those times in Europe. There were many clashes, especially in 1609 and 1792.
Would be nice to make this interview now
Lex, thank you for your wonderful interview with Oliver Stone, i admire the work that both of you are doing. ...richard
I really appreciate these long form conversations. You really get to see alot of the person being interviewed.
"The line between good and evil runs through heart of every man. And who is willing to cut the piece of his own heart?" To me the next sentence is even more powerful.. don't know why.
Who is willing to cut a piece of his own ❤? Way to many, to include women. Women are rising and taking male roles in many powerful leadership positions. Greed, money, and power has overtaken humanity. It is not working and it will never work. It's unfolding right before our very eyes in real time.
Second that. Such a powerful line
Most ppl try to cut out the evil part in others hearts instead, or their perceived evil.
@@pite9 Hurt people, hurt other people.
@@pite9 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7: 3)
Mr.Fridman, way you drive interviews, calm try to understand the issues, present not your ideas, but really, intelligently, polite and also calmly "push" your audience to "think by themselves" is remarkable, no doubt, remarkable
Thank you for a great interview. The fact that Oliver Stone was able to speak without much interruptions really allowed me to realize to what level he lost touch with reality. He is obviously smart and some of his opinions I agree with, but a lot of it is so shocking to me that I wasn't really prepare for it. Thank you Lex for your work.
You're account is 3 weeks old.
@@bengaisford3304ad hominem attack doesn’t add to discussion my friend
Sorry you must be brainwashed because everything he said was true
Totally agree, please don't talk about Donbas crimes from 2014, a disillusioned rhetoric
@@nataliavasluian7747 you are disillusioned and indoctrinated clearly
I wonder what would Mr. Stone say nowadays. A discussion between him and Stephen Kotkin would be something spicy to witness eventually. Lex, you or Joe... Make it happen
EXACTLY!!! That was what I was referring to in my second from the top of the page overly lengthy post! Stephen Kotkin has devoted his entire lengthy ‘political history professional career’ to the ‘study of Russian leaders’ and has huge amounts of fact from huge amount of other experts that have ‘much closer long time close associates of Putin and the direct ‘result’ of Putin’s action, not his talk. It sounds it sounds trite, but REAL-TIME “actions speak louder than words”! Stone’s accretions that Putin’s statements, and Stone’s belief that if Putin said it so convincingly, it must be right and therefore all the U.S. intelligence experts were wrong, sounds so similar to former President Trump’s statement at their Helsinki, Finland Summit during the first year of the Trump presidency! For anyone to have an unbiased opinion on Stone interview, it would only be prudent to listen to the same interviewer interview lifelong soviet/Russian leadership expert Stephen Kotkin re: Putin! Additionally, I have witnessed many others that have studied Putin, with all agreeing with Kotkin extremely closely and absolutely none with Stone! Again, Stone is an extremely gifted filmmaker, but we can see what an extraordinarily skilled electric automobile & spacecraft expert can do to destroy a top internet company with Mr. Musk. Being an expert in one field of endeavor does not translate to all other fields of endeavor!!! Again, apologies for my composition and grammatical errors, as it is difficult for me to push a grocery cart and dictate coherently at the same time! Hell, l can’t even chew chewing gum and walk at the same time!😊
Of course....Mr. Kotkin would run circles around him of course and Stone would have to have the capacity to listen really listen and be prepared to have to revamp his entire thinking about the Soviet Union...its history and its crimes.
@@tomdouglassicks4748 lol kotkin is a historian stone is a filmmaker. Put him up against Alexander Mercouris, Mark Sleboda or Brian Berletic and they would absolutely slap him across the room lol
@@marcuslarsson9548 -Stephen Kotkin is a populist and defender of America which is not and never was - he is what the fascists were
You don’t get what get he is trying to say.
I went from (irrationally) disliking Lex to absolutely loving the man within two weeks. His humility, intelligence and grace won me over. My favourite podcaster of all time at this point.
I completely adore Lex Fridman -- have spent Days listening for every available hour of the days, and cannot Get Enough. Btw, Lex, I give Magnifient Massages. Just FYI.
@@theresahanford179 Theresa, I think I'm smarter and better looking than Lex. What are you doing on Friday?
@@martinda7446😂😂
Important point from Lex,, he doesn't interrupt much, he let his guests talk...
Great interview. Thanks from canada.
Him calling medvedchuk medvedev is just hilarious
Time code?
All countries are sovereign in Oliver Stone's eyes. But some countries are more sovereign than others.
What makes you say that?
@@Meloncholymadness 28:44. Oliver Stone mentions that sovereignty of nations is crucial for international stability. He mentions Venezuela, Iran, China, and Russia as sovereign states. But he doesn't mention Ukraine. So my question is this: in Oliver Stone's eyes, is Ukraine also a sovereign nation? Apparently, all countries are sovereign in Oliver Stone's eyes, except for the ones he doesn't like.
@@yuzhonglu He does say at some point that is is, Ukraine and America have antagonised this war in my opinion and it's becoming more and more clear.
@@Meloncholymadness Your Honor, that woman forced me to rape her. I had no choice.
What's your opinion on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile etc invaded or interfered with by US actions. Are they sovereign nations?
No wonder that Vladimir Lenin was calling this type of people "useful idiots". I think if he had had a chance to talk to Vladimir Bukovskyi, maybe he might be able to see a little better that kind of "honest man". It is amazing how even smart people are happy to see what they hope to be the truth....
I am shocked by his lies and excuses. Besides, nothing, absolutely nothing that Oliver said about Donbass is true. He only quotes Russian propaganda as if it was programmed. On the contrary, Ukrainians in Donbas, where they are in the majority, have been discriminated against, killed and raped since 2014. Also, the number of dead he mentions is the number of soldiers killed on both sides in that conflict since 2014.
He was the creator of Ukraine, he took a part of land which was called " Kievan Rus' " to create Ukraine, in that process he has killed the whole Russian royal family Romanov including their six children , burned and looted more than 1000 of churches and killed 11 millions of people, that is how Ukraine was created.
@@vinkywink Lenin did NOT create Ukraine. That is Putin lies. And Ukraine as a name for that region existed from at least around 16th century, way before Russia existed as "Russia".
@@oslickbarn3077 You should read about Romanov family, Kieven Rus and etc and please enlight me in which document before 1922. Ukraine was mentioned as independent state and not as part of imperial Russia.
@@vinkywink In Fourth Universal of the Ukrainian Central Council, for example.
This man embodies wisdom and intelligence . Great American
This couldn't have aged any worse
How so?
@@benjamingladinathor686Get real.
Lex I feel your guests really warm to you through an interview. You have a great gift and it’s so great to hear you get to the heart of matters because of the trust you build. Really well done.👏🏼👏🏼🙏
What are you talking about, all I see is someone hating that Putin is a good man
Oliver Stone called Ukraine a “Nazi State”. Says it all really.
It’s is lol. Neo- Nazis. Check western facts
It's bs but yeah. Having a nazi group doesn't mean it's a nazi state. The president is a jew for christ sake. You don't think they have nazis in Russia. Guess they are a nazi state then
AZOV.
he isn't completely off. My family fled the state for that reason to Central Asia and never came back.
@@itr8247 how nazi is that?
Great man and great interview.
France never actually left NATO, per se. DeGaulle downgraded France's membership in NATO and withdrew France from the U.S.-led military command to pursue an independent defense system. In 2009 France rejoined NATO's military command.
Precisely. There were talks during Jacques Chirac's presidency for a comeback of France to the "integrated commandment" (which implies resuming its annual financial contribution to NATO budget) in the 1990s. Chirac was ready to come back, but he asked for the removal of the US sixth's fleet ships from the Mediterranean sea. The US refused, and thus it was postponed to 2009, four years after Sarkozy succeeded to Chirac.
Was it because the CIA tried to kill DeGaulle?
Yep, and some French people, count me in, does not see our involvement in the military command as a good thing. There's one country leading the command and all others forced to follow. There are some discrepancies between the Atlantic alliance interests and the UE interests.
I thought after Libya France wanted to step down from Nato leading role in Europe or at least not be forced to send troops on "democracy" missions.
@@datmesay right, you guys just hide while US AMERICANS pay for and fight for the rest of the world's freedom... all good we got this
it was really a privilege to find this interview and to be able to watch many thanks from the Netherlands
Now go to #289
hugs and kisses from Italy xo
@maria martin: please watch "Ukraine on Fire" by O. Stone on youtube
#289 Watch it. Its good
I'd love to see another interview now a year later... What a wonderful, thoughtful, talented and highly intelligent man, Mr Oliver Stone.❤
Ollie and I are both University dropout Vietnam Combat Infantry veterans. I love and pray for my brother.
Wow!
I'm impressed with Lex Friedman podcasts. There are levels to podcasting and this is the top of the pyramid 👌❤️
Yes, he’s a gifted interviewer which appears to be rooted in the idea of humility and that he thinks he’s not a good interviewer
This video made Lex Fridman’s Russian bot audience very happy
He looks very dead and soulless, hes like every other corporate, dead inside and just doing his job for the sake of money, no charisma or anything.
So at 1:11:00 he asked about Zelensky fighting for sovereignty and he kind of just brushed it off. Bit weird because it's a very central and powerful argument in 2023. Probably since 1945.
he’s way too biased to have an honest discussion
Zelensky is not fighting for sovereignity. Zelensky is a trapped puppet. You have no idea what is going on here.
feel free to explain how "sovereignty" is a blank check license to pursue with impunity any policy that has major implication on the geopolitical level and not provoke a response from other impacted nations? where is that written? sounds like you're describing unilateralism, not sovereignty.
He didn't brush it off. He answered plain and simple that you can't be fighting for something you haven't had since 2014. Ukraine lost it's sovereignty the moment it accepted a foreign backed cue. And I'll add even more. What sovereignty you can be fighting for, when all the money you have received for your "fight" you will have to pay with your land, natural resources and public held companies?? You won't have sovereignty, even if you "win" the war.
@@MargaritaKatrenko and zelenski just announced the sale of what is left of his country to blackr0ck and g0ldman-$achs
What a brilliant journalist .No breaks , good questions from borh side .I never saw this man before .Milions of subscribers has proved rank of this program .
Best approach on life terms, great respect for the courage to speak openly! May your years be long and filled with happiness!
“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”- Frank Herbert
How to make institutions that are vulnerable to this more stringent on vetting personnel?
@@fauxguyfawkes6156 Checks and Balances
Oliver Stone wrote on March 3 about Putin's "mistakes": 2) "Overestimating the military's ability to achieve its objective." - He doesn't say what the objective was and Lex doesn't ask him.
Taking eastern Europe
@@cooldudecs lol what? another western media shit
Stone is merely parroting the Kremlin, note that no one knows what Russia's objectives are, hence you know who the propagandists are from this statement alone
It was subjugating the whole of Ukraine.
World wide conquest. Bolshevism from Vladivostok to Lisbon. Always has been their stated goal.
Love this interviewer's ( Lex ) thoroughness and knowledge of the topic.
I hope there will be new genereations of people like this man bringing not opinions, but facts to the people!
You have a lovely interview style. Very informative with excellent questions which put your guest at ease. I shall watch more. Thank you.
Thanks for this. Great work by all involved. Few realise how close to the edge we all are.
People are dumb and they will die coz of original sin. 3rd world war is last 2.5y and still people are sheeps.
First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, earlier inhabitors, Asians, Christians...and even most Democrats.) Isaiah 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. John 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
Gabriela Jimenez was videoed saying she was enslaved and saw people eating people. She looked sad, disgusted and in shock as she moved her hands to her mouth while explaining how they were eating. She said they smelled like humans. She said billionaire Carlos Slim knew about it. Police took her away and I've read she was never seen again. Gabriela was a little frantic, as would be anybody, and why is she missing now? I've seen at least 4 other people telling of the billionaire crowd doing the above kind of activities. God's own people were doing Satanism often in the Old Testament. He slaughtered many and booted the rest out of the promised land. He said he would bring them back one day and they would worship him. They recently got their land back but their billionaires are still aligned with the devil.
@@clickhereforshowittoothers2184 nice shitpost bot
@@Pixelkip I'm for rep -a - rat -ions too.When will you ultra dark people finally pay us?
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Mr Stone- THE LEGEND! Thank you Lex for inviting him and for conducting this meaningful conversation
It's fascinating that Lex could pull off having a conversation with Oliver. fascinating stuff.
Huh? Oliver can carry any conversation by himself, just ask questions about any of his work and he will go on forever.
@@trentbosnic I think he meant more like, Oliver Stone is kind of a big deal, and that Lex scored an interview is impressive... imo
@@dominicdudebromtl9380 He got Oliver from Joe Rogan, Joe often encourages his guests to go on Lex's podcast. Still cool though, I agree with that.
"Poland has always been attacking Russia as far as I remember" "the two world wars, occupied Russia" - did he mistake Poland with Russia? Honestly I find it really difficult to follow his way of talking.
It's almost like he took a different version of history class
He is right polish army as i know once occupied Moscow en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_occupation_of_Moscow
Yeah, turned this one off at that point. Big fan of Lex, but Stone is so focused on "America bad" that he's making up his own alternate world history.
He was talking about poland being anti russia.
He's acting in bad faith. I'm just happy it's so easily recognizable this time. Practicing critical thinking requires exposure to dumb propaganda so you can catch out smarter approaches.
What a great interview. What an extraordinary man Mr Oliver Stone. Thanks. Shared with so much pride.
Great interview! Shows me why Stone is a total Russian apologist should never be trusted for a 'documentary ' producer, EVER
Thank you for doing this interview. Oliver Stone was the one who introduced me to Jimmy Dore's show, for that alone I am eternally grateful. To say nothing of the body of work he's done and the courage with which he's gone against the strongest of grains throughout his career whether it was Fourth of July, the Putin Interviews, the Snowden movie, the 'True History...' his military service, his outspoken speeches when receiving awards and on and on...
Jimmy Dore is a brilliant man. Isn't it funny that we have to listen to a comedian to hear the news? Recently I've also started watching The Duran as their coverage of Ukraine conflict is strictly no-bs and expands on what's Jimmy reporting.
@@VladK-1 The Duran eh? I'll have to check that out. Been watching TJDS since 2017 or so and he's one of the best, esp. now with most things. It was thanks to looking up Oliver Stone interviews one day that I came across his channel as he interviewed Stone once back then.
@@VladK-1 Yes!
Yes& amen,me too! Both men are straight shooters,patriots,Jimmy& Oliver! Thank you ,Me Friedman,I enjoy your shows so much.😇🙌👍👏💕💋
I love Jimmy. Cheers from Texas!
"I believe the moment we draw lines between good people and evil people, we lose our ability to see that we are all one people on the most fundamental of ways"
1:40 "Hitler did not go after Britain when he had France." Yes, he did. The Brits stopped his plan at the Battle of Britain.
THINGS CHANGE IN A YEAR.. WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HIS OPINION AS OF JUNE 2023
The interviewer doesn't confront Stone in any way. He just keeps asking new questions.
That’s the whole point. Don’t interrupt the interviewee and hear him/her out. Discover what’s in there without interrupting the flow. This is what makes Lex such a great interviewer.
@@anonymous.youtuber the point is to challenge the person who you interviewing. He doesn't do that at all.
@@TheKrankHead That's a debate, not an interview.
Stone seemed to back Putin/ Russia more than I would expect. Interesting...
That's probably because he has some understanding of the Minsk Agreement, and the history of US reluctance to support.
You know about his documentary and Putin interview series? The documentary Ukraine on fire, you can find it on rumble. Everywhere else it gets taken down.
It’s nice to hear a stable voice on the matter. Oliver knows the facts so he gets it right.
Objectivity.
well he cannot bite the hand that feeds him, he need putin in his future docs
Stockholmsyndrome comes to mind when i listen to this.
Lex is a total machine made to produce the greatest interviews.
"Seek to understand." That was the line that resonated the most for me. This was my first video on your channel so I didn't quite understand your introduction. It made sense, of course, by the end. Well done. Thank you for this interview,
Is it really? Wouldn't it be a better investment of time to build anti-tank weapons and send them to Ukraine, instead of trying to understand the motivation behind the presence of those tanks in Ukraine?
@@highdefinist9697 It depends upon what kind of future one wants to invest in-more war mongering or a jump in evolution with peace as a core element -and what role one feels called to play at any given time. So, yes, “seek to understand” is the line that resonates the most for me. In this conflict, if one felt called to brokering peace talks, understanding Putin’s motivation would be key to advancing peace negotiations. If one felt called to promote peace by more arms, they would seek to understand how to get those tanks built and delivered without tipping the conflict into a nuclear response. Since history shows us that war only feeds the Industrial Military Complex, which feeds itself on war, I’m inclined to ask, “Isn’t it time we seek to find and understand a new way of living together on this tiny planet of ours?”
This channel have some great talks/discussions
@@numbersix8919 That's why it's up to us-we the people-to shift the thinking. We've been passively hoping and waiting for the political powers to change their power-mongering ways for far too long. You're right, they're not going to unless we demand it in collective numbers.To do that, we need to get out of our individual echo chambers and seek to understand each other on the ground level so we can find that collective voice across tribal borders. Personally, I have hope because I believe in humanity's ability to grow and develop in ways other than just tech related. Of course, I also recognize it's going to take work on our part. Still. We can do it, no?
@@alexanderpapadopoulos2383 I'll take your testimonial to heart and listen to another. Is the one interview you particularly recommend?
This was really good!
Thank you yet again for another interesting interview.
I listened to the whole interview, and I watched Stone's Putin Interviews, and while Stone can sometimes come across as a level headed individual, I always leave feeling that he can't see the world clearly. In my mind, Stone went to Vietnam, and his whole worldview since then has been so twisted by his bad experience there, that he just can't think clearly. I'm not saying Vietnam was a good war. It wasn't. I'm not trying to diminish what happened to him, but sometimes people can be damaged in such a way that they just can't separate truth from fiction. For Stone, his starry eyed take on Putin and Russia, despite the mountains of facts to the contrary, is tough to swallow. His assertion that American and Russian freedom of the press are pretty equal, is complete quackery. Can you say the war in Ukraine is a war without going to jail in Russia, much less on Russian TV? No. I can say whatever I want about America, on TV, anywhere, at any time, and not feel even REMOTELY threatened by the government. His assertion that Ukraine would be "invading" Donbass" by trying to retake the territory Russia invaded them to take away is laughable. The notion that world can't see NATO for what it is, and only HE can see the truth is him questioning the intelligence of every single person who lives in a country that is part of NATO. That said, we agree on nuclear energy, very strongly, but after hearing his take on Russia, Ukraine, NATO, the USA, and so on, I better go look at it again.
Well said..
@@joannewilson6577 whole of west has block RT . Journalism is too much for west ?
I agree he has a definite bias. He really hates US imperialism. And as a result he doesn’t address the sins of Russia. At the same time however the anti Russia pro US view is everywhere, without counter balance. I think some counter balance is healthy for discussion.
@@frankbutcher2601 I’m not understanding your point, what do you mean?
Mr Oliver i wish this tipe of interview will be tramite in every school in the USA, you are a great man with clear honest thoughts Good bless you ❤
“What do you think of the invasion of Ukraine?” “Let me tell you about the invasion of Iraq” lol
Its important to refer to Iraq as a precedent in international relations established by Usa and GB for justifiying war and aggresion.
What do you think about Ukraine killing people of Donbas and Lugansk since 2014?
Stone's expression after commenting on Bucha - Lex obviously gave a "don't go there" look...
I would love to see the Lex camera there....
1:07:08 😜
Very suspicious!
yeap
Stone is right.
Thank you for bringing up France and Germany. I point out this case study every time the green energy conversation crops up.
@@cneuhauser1 deservedly so, on account of them starting two wars WITH THE WORLD
@@MathieuDuponchelle They blamed Germany for WWI, but anyone who's studied it will understand that Germany was just scapegoated for it. The bloody thing started in Eastern Europe. Germany is only responsible for starting WWII. But unlike the Japanese, they've apologized for it, and they've made Nazism and Holocaust denial illegal. Germany today is not a threat.
@@MathieuDuponchelle are you really sure about that though ?
@@MathieuDuponchelle how did my country start World War 1? Care to explain?
@@Dan-sw8tg Formally, Germany did declare war first. My comment was however a Norm MacDonald reference so just chill your horses you misguided patriot.
amazing job Mr.Lex Fridman, amazing job
Great conversation
10:04 "50 people (died) at Chernobyl" I was kinda surprised that you let him get away with that without any pushback.
There's a difference between people who died AT the Chernobyl plant as opposed to the aftermath.
@@derbigpr500 I thought of that. And that may cut some grass in a very narrow sense. However, Mr. Stone was clearly using this figure in a much broader sense, as in he was clearly comparing the total deaths caused by several different methods of electricity generation. And in that context you can't use the figure of 50 deaths at Chernobyl.
Vice verca with the number of civilians killed in Donbass. He puts it, I believe, as high as 14000, though most of these are military from both sides. So when he needs he puts figures as low as possible, in other case exaggerates enormously.
Yes, I thought this was a very obtuse statement and very telling
… and no mentioning of the waste.
Wow, I never realised Oliver Stone wrote Scarface. Another excellent episode Lex.
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Any Western media, or spokes persons are found to have been receiving payments from Russia to sow discontent and undermine Western support for Ukraine, should face trial as traitors when the war in concluded
Different man back then. Now Oliver Stone is a nut.
@@channelname1700 Telling truth seems crazy to ignorant
@@1985truthseeker what truth? This interview was just speculation. Point to one part of the interview where Stone give evidence to his claims. You can’t
I really appreciate the hell out of this man...Nothing like a honest man. Thank you sir...
We all must unerstand real power isn’t just controlling what happens but controlling what people think about what happens.
"Brzezinski (advisor to the U.S. president) was a Pole. [...] Poland has always been attacking Russia. [...] The two world wars that occupied Russia, tragically - entry points were always through Poland and Ukraine." (22:40) ... what an utterly weird perspective.
This is making the whole interview not worth listening to. This guy has absolutely no idea about history. Later on just repeating official russian propaganda. So sad...
Can't agree more! during WWI, Poland didn't even exist as an independent entity (and neither did Ukraine). During WWII, Nazis and Soviets were best buddies until '41 and split Poland together, so when Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, occupied Poland happened to be the territory where the two totalitarian regimes agreed to have border. Stone's phrasing makes it sound like Poland and Ukraine somehow had something to say about where the attack on Russia/Soviet Union was happening from...
Ironic that Trump gets a pass. I wonder why
Noticed the same but wasn't surprised. Stone is the biggest Russia apologist in the west. Earlier in the pod he said that nuclear is safe (true enough, sure) because only 50 people died in the Chernobyl disaster, which is a hilariously stupid Soviet statistic that is only true in the narrowest possible sense.
Bonkers. Incoherent ramblings at this point. He made some good movies at his time though.
Very annoying that he consistently interpret Russia maximally with the benefit of doubt, meanwhile maximally interpreting USA with pessimism. He's not being intellectually honest with himself at all. I'd love to hear both sides of the story, but this interview was unfortunetely very frustrating and clearly not nuanced. And come on; "Never saw Putin misuse his power"? I hope that we can find influential people that will pragmatically propose ideas for a road globally towards peace, prosperity and freedom. Sad seeing the world taking a big step back from this direction.
Yeah, its wild to see this overcompensation while trying to view his nation objectively. Mr. Stone you overshot the mark.
Yup
I agree. Clearly Stone has a bit of a blindspot when it comes to Putin. My jaw dropped when Stone said Putin had the support of the people and that there was no way he could remain in power without popular support, despite the fact that the security services in Russia are more numerous than during soviet times. I knew that something was wrong when Stone said Putin couldnt be a wealthy man because he didnt act or live like one.
It's odd to hear Stone occasionally try to balance his opinion then way overstep onto Putin's side with comments that seem very naïve. I don't think he made a very supportive case for his seemingly favorable view of Putin. It was interesting to hear Stone's personal history about his father being a staunch Russia hating republican. So surreal to experience such a drastic turn in political viewpoint over a generation.
there is a track record
The meaning of life: to discover the preciousness of life & honor its beauty. A answer that is beautifully circular - a struggle amid many shades of powerlessness & disappointment, but one that rings true.
Excellent interview.
You're really good at this Lex.
I’m 80 with two tours in Vietnam . Immhave to remind myself to take seriously Stones comments as he was dead on writing about that war.
hello charlie, I'm from the opposite side of the planet - relatively close to the war. I always had a ton of respect for Oliver Stone, he educated me on quite a few stuff. that's why I tuned in for this podcast, to hear him talk about the war and his insights. But to put it bluntly, this time around, Mr. Stone has no clue what he's talking about, so don't take him at face value. Russia staight up attacked Ukraine and is comminting war crimes there daily, tying up civilians and executing them, shelling public apartment buildings and.. executing even their own soldiers for treason, if they protest in listening the orders - becuase a big chunk of russian soldiers were being lured into the battlefield under an assumption it's just a military training. at the beginning, vast majority of them didn't have a clue they are crossing a country boarders and will have to fight for their lives in no time. And as of now, the rest of the army - as well as most of the Russian population, they live in a complete lie. They've been lied to for decades now, surrounded by propaganda everywhere.. TV, radio, newspaper, social media.. they pretty much see the world upside down. And sadly, Oliver Stone is spreading a piece of it right on this podcast. Please do your own research on the matter, if you don't believe me.... Finally, even tho Vietnam war has nothing to do with me, I've been always fascinated by it. So let me say - thank you for your service and I wish you a good health. Cheers from the Czech Republic.
@@martincapek96 Mr. Stone isn't really denying the reality of the war right now, but he (like some others) believes that the West put Russia into a corner where they somewhat legitimately perceived themselves as having no other choice (disagree with that description if you want but that is the level of debate which needs to be discussed not whether Russia is committing war crimes which it horribly is).
@@martincapek96 wow, what a bunch of straight brainwashed rant...😐 Don't forget about russian soldiers eating ukranian newborn babies for breakfast 😁
@@watching99134 The sad part is that russia always "feels" and "perceives" shit from the west but never feels for it self. While claiming you have a seperate civilization as they claim always, they never "feel" for themselves. They have aaaall the time in the world to fix their country but never do. In contrary always trying to terrorize neighbouring countries (which did not have a great time under their rule) I am Georgian, I know 5 languages and I am very curious about history and philosophy. Everytime I look at russia it is doing something horrible, not that west is ok, but everytime I need to "choose" , I choose west. Its very sad actually, not the choosing but the ideologies and realities.
I had a Russia language teacher from grusia back in 1979 and up to today I remember her pain when she talked about the suffering of her family under Stalin
"The environmentalists have played a huge role in doing good things, many good things. But also confusing and confounding the landscape." ~ Oliver Stone
Yeah we did! And there's a lotttttt to do more.... Environment is not only about Nuclear, Coal or Oil. They only talk about this stuff because that's where the big $$ is (speculating.. a bit). There's many many other variables to take care off. And I'm still not buying this nuclear energy deal! I don't know those Green Political parties because they all seem like puppets of big corporations or something. They never say anything right, their level of knowledge is dubious at best, I don't see credentials, I don't see their work anywhere, etcetcetc. Actually it seems more of the oil business rhetoric that has been fed to us for decades... Nuclear is not exactly clean and not exactly safe. Yeah for the most part is clean and safe but then there's the other opposite... And that's a BIG opposite. People barely speak about Fukushima and Chernobly for example... Fukushima was close to the Ocean... You telling me that the disaster didn't contaminated the water? Chernobly is STILL under disaster management... Nobody talks about the range of the disaster. Is the water clean?? Is the land safe?? What's the range of the contamination btw?? Last time I was educated on the subject, radiation can last thousands of years and spread veryyyy far. And Oliver Stone here saying that the world should go nuclear.... Yeah that's like dousing the world in gas, expecting that we don't get hit by a solar flare or something... Flammable. And with this war atmosphere.... Who can tell that madmen don't target Nuclear power plants just to gain an advantage over the enemy. Or a simple terrorist attack! Hell, even in 1st world countries there's people that shoot someone or blow up buildings. So, there's NOTHING "completely safe" even if it gives the appearance to be safe
Please help protect Thacker Pass Nevada
Nuclear power plants are problematical- especially on earthquake faults, or near them. Case in point: Fukushima-3 nuclear meltdowns, their robots melted/ malfunctioned to even be able to see/ monitor the exploded landscape. There are so many huge vats of radiated water, that they have to start dumping hundreds of thousands of tons of the radiated water into the Pacific. They hope to have it under control in 40 years. These were only nuclear power plants for energy.
That is sometimes required, LibertyMatrix. As an urban planner, I met many types of environmentalists, from the geniuses who thought up the Citizens Growth Management Initiative to the guy who offered us getting his environmentalists to go away for a fee. Even my favorite had a taxidermized desert tortoise that he carried in a bag to pose in the foreground of his slide presentations. I thought that was smart. There are risks to any energy source. If one zooms out and looks at all the factors that influence the future, the risks in disposing of nuclear waste are minimal compared to stopping these wars over energy or global warming. We might develop a better way to do things someday but appear to be on a speeding train.
When you redirect the humid CO2 rich exhaust from burning methane gas… into a greenhouse growing facility… everything starts to grow exponentially faster. And methane gas can be eternally produced by organic waste and your own 💩 and of the mix. So seriously 😐 how fake is the premise for this interveiw? Even in the movies he is claimed to be a controlled opposition (tjeck mil gibsons resume fx) All methane gas (that is produced whether you want it or not from your leftovers/garbage of Living (organically)) when burned is reduced to 1/10th of the “greenhouse effect) .. and on low ground (not airplanes fx) it’s absorbed quickly by plants 🌱 growing directly from it. Burning methane to run electricity generators can run the DeFi crypto verse and if you like… like all the flares from excess harvesting natural gas on the oceans asf.. can drive hydrolysis and produce hydrogen fuel og the leftovers. It’s the biggest curse in human history to repeat the fallacy that methane is bad! Serious WAKE UP ⬆️.. it’s our biggest back into the cycle of organic life that we got. The more methane burned and exhaust to plants and mushrooms the more and bigger fruits and edibles you’ll get. Unfortunately my IP address is known by the system.., and probably almost no one will even receive to read this. So where does that leave you… if You do?
Great interwiew .BOTH OF YOU ARE GREAT. THANK YOU. IT WAS PLEASURE WACHING IT.
10:07 "Nobody died at Fukoshima" - This Guy - LoL xD
He was referring to any deaths caused by the failure from Nuclear Plant not deaths caused by the tsunami. Per official reports, the plant was closed and shut down properly with no casualties.
Great interview, Lex! It's the first time I've watched an interview from you. Your an amazing interviewer and please keep it up! Thank you for doing your shows!
@@georgwachberg1242 Why? He asked good questions and he let the interviewee speak and answer. Your answer makes me wonder what your looking for in an interview.
Joe Rogan with no edit do better than the Lex edited , Lex even edit out his questions 40:30. Lex said (start of video) he would steelman more ( after very edited ,3 hours cut, Zuckerberg "image promotion" , Zuck couldn't do No1 Joe for lack of edit , probably a good reason ?) , Hehe , Lex steelmans by interrupting 59:18, CNN..etc.ambush style , not let the man think through the arguments. Hope Lex fans are young/naive , representing average IQ is worrying
If you want real interviews with russian POW > look up all of them w/ English subs, like Volodymyr Zolkin makes. The 1-st playlist on his page is w/ English subs - "Russian POWs interviews". Real 33 interviews at this time. And here is just the russian propaganda bs from Oliver Stone - do you like eating rotten food? Respect yourself.
@@SergiyJust nice response from a CIA troll.