How Tuning Engines Became Illegal👮🏻♂️| Explained Ep.26
2023 ж. 2 Мау.
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The days of buying a car, some commercially available software, changing a couple values and off to the drag strip on a Friday night may be behind us completely, but until that day officially comes, stay mindful and keep tuning!
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Imma still tune it 🤐🤷♂️
Me too...
As you should
Me too. But thankfully I saw his qualification requirements at the beginning, and I am a software engineer so... I have that going for me already.
factsss
A few years ago I wanted to tune my car but didn't want to pay someone to do it. So I got the software and now have more than double the factory output and running E85. And can still pass an emissions test! I love tuning and will continue to tune my own vehicles for as long as possible!
This is why everyone needs to support Right To Repair so that owning something actually means owning it.
Louis Rossman represent. thumbs-up (my emoji skills are subpar😂)
Yeah it'll never happen though, not even in an industry that REALLY needs it, ag equipment. Big tech companies took notice when there was a right to repair case against John Deere in the midwest, as it would lead to everyone being able to have access to source code in tech from Apple/Microsoft/Google/etc, not to mention the big three also have skin in the game too. Apple reps actually showed up at the hearing in some little farm town to see what the case entailed. Going up against that big of a combined adversary that lines the pockets of so many lawmakers and representatives? There's no way the people will ever get that kind of freedom, the most you can hope for is the ability to do basic repair on your vehicle after multiple legal battles.
"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"- Klaus Schwab
@@sayan1667 I'm fine with that if everything I want or need is on permanent loan, FoC..
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper unless the tuners make a open source defeat program that is available to everyone. imagine the epa trying to go after millions of people at once. your court date after being found would be like a 100 years from now. unless they block to internet in that case it would be the most obvious case of violating the right to protest,communicate,and privacy( because they would have to look at every bit of data going through their data hubs in a unencrypted form.) great way to start a civil war is to enrage everyone all at the same time.
Step 1: Copy Stock ECU values Step 2: Remove Stock ECU or bypass it. Step 3: Insert Modified ECU with enough memory to accommodate Stock and Modified values Step 4: add hidden switch that flips between both value sets. Step 5: Have Fun.
yea i've never understood why people say that an aftermarket ecu means that you don't pass inspection anymore, not if you copy the map lol
Depends on the area. Some places make replacing stock parts and automatic failure.
@@leecline5759it's not as though putting improved components in a stock housing is uncommon or difficult, especially with electronics
@@chrisberry2859 Sometimes replacing those stock components with new ones breaks shit you don't expect. I have a buddy with a XC70 he's put a decent amount of time and money into, and a part of that was swapping the cluster and other accessory modules with later, updated ones for new features. These were stock Volvo parts he programmed with Volvo's official dealer/service software, but when he took it to get inspected he failed because the inspectors scanner didn't recognize his configuration of parts as valid.
Only works on old ECUs that have separate eeprom and MCU, no chip identification nor encryption though. I did that for a while, stock ECU had a 27C128 , I put in a 27C256 with a switch on the highest address bit pit . Also worked with 27c512 to put 4 map sets.
No matter how hard they try to control it there is always a loop hole somewhere. This car culture is unstoppable.
Until you lose your phone n can't get in your electric vehicle anymore..lol
@@P71ScrewHeadlmfao my ev can be turned on with a button. It’s also a 1995 5 series. Anyone with brain can acknowledge the only purpose of ev is to gap fools like you too ignorant to know what’s fast.
Which is why they are pushing EV's.
@@azarite7932 the only valid purpose of ev is to go fast and be harsh on the environment. Proper gear head material. But you will have to shoot me dead before I stop driving a straight pipped less impactful muscle car fool.
@@dackbowland1876 EVs yes have more HP but EVs will never be as satisfying as a loud engine going 200mph
“The cammed Z06 chopping across the parking lot is not reducing your life expectancy, when you probably vape.” This is a most epic statement 😂❤
-> me smiling with my cammed base C6 chopping and wishing I had a Z 😂
@@androiduberalles me frowning with my vape sitting on my desk lmao
Let's not forget the aristocracy who travel in convoys of large vehicles, or their super cars, private jets, helicopters, and yachts. But you're scraping by, you just want a little hot rod for yourself, you should've thought of becoming rich and powerful first.
EPA needs to hear that
Uh, opinion: I like vaping and cammed Z06s
There needs to be a part 2 about how companies are building their own ECU's to keep the tuning game alive.
That's only cuz manufacturers are locking the factory ecu's.
@@scottruch76 that's only half of the reason. The other is that the newer aftermarket ECUs are easier to tune and are more capable/expandable by design making them the better option for higher power tuning. Some I believe, are even self tuning to a large degree.
@@slimjim2291 luckily I still have a tunable ECU lol
I accept that statement
Piggyback or replacing the entire ecu is the only way forward now
I don't own a performance car and probably never will.. But, I can sure appreciate the sound of a well tuned high performance engine that pulls up next to me at a stop light.
All these years and I’ve never heard any compare ignition timing to riding a bicycle… what an easy and universal way to explain it to the masses. Bravo :-)
Let alone use anime to demonstrate it.
I agree with this comment completely !
Yep. Been at this for decades and never considered that analogy, yet it's perfect. I am disappointed in myself for not thinking of it 30 years ago.
Yeah that was helpful 👍
That's how I have always been explaining to people who doesn't know about how the engine works, I compare bicycle pedals as the crankshaft, and the legs as the con rods with a piston.
I wrote a 5,000 word article on the impact Motronic had on Tuning for a publication a few years ago and I never felt I could do it justice. Glad to see such a great channel giving such an important topic some attention it deserves
Ya what a shity time to be alive. Looks like I'm keep my old cars around forever
Motronic is so tunable it’s great, I had a Volvo 850r with motronic m4.4 it was the first exam I ever flashed and did the whole setup for flashing for less than 20$
@@turkeyboyjh1 yes motronics are stupid easy to tune, unlike their predecessor the LH 2.4 jetronic which is a eprom ecu that needs an ostrich 2.0 to tune
@@homelessdrifter9508 I actually used an ostrich on my m4.4 but really just for data logging and real-time tuning, it’s not needed but cuts down on flashing time and less wiring because the m4.4 ecm needs a 14.5-15 volt line for boot mode
@@turkeyboyjh1 yes ostrich is really good, but unfortunatelly the LH jetronic cant be tuned without a chipburner like ostrich and they are stupid hard to find. My friend asked me to tune his saab 900 that originally had the 2.1L or 2L carburetor engone and were swapping a 2.1L NA fuel injected engine with the fuel injected engines worong harness so original ecu will be used. I told him he would need to pay for the ostrich which the cheapest one i have ever seen was like 200€ but it wasnt available
The part about the EPA and CARB that's completely illogical to me is that you can't just swap in a newer and more clean-running engine to an older chassis and be all set. If they are truly concerned with vehicle emissions, let us do individual vehicle testing like on pre-OBD2 cars. If I want to build some high compression turbo motor for my grocery getter and it can be tuned to be at least on par with the factory engine for a vehicle of that age, and I can prove each year for registration that it is running that efficiently... get off my back.
The only problem is if you go in for a smog test they don’t know if you just have some efficient tune just to pass it and they aren’t gonna spend money to sniff test cars while they’re on the road either
CARB does allow you to swap in an engine from a newer vehicle into an older one, but it has to be completely stock, running a stock tune in the stock computer from the donor vehicle. And it all has to be inspected by a CARB referee before they will sign off on the car. But yes, the rest of the statements are true. It's all about the control and money for the government. I had purchased a car with a slightly modified tune because it had a slightly smaller supercharger pully and made a little more boost. It passed the CA smog check multiple times, running just as clean as a factory stock tune, before CA changed the law to make all tunes illegal. Complete BS!
Federal grandfather act bud. I have a 1970 dodge charger no airbags and has a damn lap belt. What do they teach you guys in schools? You cant buy an automatic gun after 1986 but people that owned them could legally keep them.
@@JBMSTRIKER71 thanks! I'd never heard of that. Can't remember what they taught us in high school (the decades have lost it to time unfortunately) but I don't recall anything like that. The only memory registering now is that cars before 1960-something don't have any emissions requirements. My buddy rebuilt a 1967 Mustang specifically for that reason.
@@kalmtravelerAny vehicle 25 yrs or older doesn't require emissions test .
Absolutely incredible production and explanation. Thank you!
Idk how you did it, but you upped the production value significantly. The music and transition between scenes is like really nice.
Just getting better every upload🙏🏽
@@337speed of course you always get my ‘like & subscribe’ but what else can us fans do to help make this channel successful for you?
@@BPBomber share to friends, always comment in new vids
It’s fucking awesome seriously . Like a underground secret 🤫 Club
It won't matter Biden signed a bill that makes all new cars detect alcohol as well as excessive speed on a road and government then hits a switch that kills the engine. Yep that's right the Biden administration said we have to have remote kill switch so cops can stop you
Amazing video buddy. Huge supporter of the amazing informative content.
Bruh🙏🏽 I’m humbled
Wow. What a masterpiece of a video. I can tell you put so much time and effort into this video and it shows.
My god, I love these videos. Educational, inciteful and well produced. Great job!
No matter how much companies and governments crack down on tuning, someone is still gonna find a way to do it. It's basically an eternal cat and mouse chase.
yep its all a money game if there was no money in it neither would bother either doing it or cracking down on it
If nothing else the rednecks will have the fastest cars again.
Plus the "lawmakers", family members and friends will be able to smoke crack while waving a gun around their 14yr old "date" while doing 160mph on any road they chose. All while on video and with no consequences or accountability at all.
worse case you can buy an aftermarket engine management system and just rewire the car.
Not many people talk about how modifying you car makes insurance prices shoot up. Another way to stop us
The EPA recently got into hot water with the supreme court over basically "over-interpreting" laws (Sackett v. EPA). Maybe in the near future they wont have so much power to shut down small tuner shops.
Fortunately the current court composition appears favorable to our cause.
Also, hopefully they’ll also put the ATF and their overreach in its place.
Their emissions testing bs has been a scam from the start.
@@RARufus The reason I want to Just build a full auto MAC-11
Word to the wise vote Republican and get the dumazz Democrats out of office.
We as a people need to stand up to these scum bag companies. We need to find out who the individuals are who think our property IS NOT OURS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
So lets vote out republicans then. They're the ones voting against right to repair bills.
Klaus Schwab. WEF.
Don't you mean the government overreach and fining tuners ?
Its the government, its literally a regulation.
Man, it seems like just about everything we knew as regular, routine stuff is going away. Anything enjoyable, recreational, fun....the powers that be want to take it away or destroy it. What a drag.
Another EXCELLENT production, in every way! A+ Kudos. Subbed
This is why SEMA garage got involved. To do the CARB testing for smaller parts Manufacturers who cannot afford the test themselves.
The solution is simple. Just replace the whole ECU with an aftermarket ECU, one that comes with its own software, allowing the tuner to do what he/she wants. When it comes time for an emission test prior to registering the car every year, just simply plug the factory stock ECU back in, go get it tested, then, simply swap it for the tuned ECU. It used to be, "Bolt on, go fast". Now, it's "Plug and Play"!
The biggest reason for a standalone ECU is to run larger turbo, injectors, wideband O2, boost control function, and some other things. It would be terrible to swap all the parts back to OEM, get tested, and re-modify everything.
@@reubenmorris487 Exactly. Another option would be to have 2 tunes. One for performance and one for emissions testing. Thats basically why track mode exists on modern performance cars anyways
🚙Mega Squirt EFI Tune ||| (3) -Set Up can have 1 aftermarket tuned ecu hard wired in together with a stock car ecu. You must hide custom tuned ecu from emissions testing facility. Modern cars with custom modified stock ecu or aftermarket ecu can both show a maintenance light on display. Arizona have advance emission control computer & pc system will know if your custom modified car have any issues with emission parts&components.
you are forgetting about the eternal cat and mouse game bro. there are already solutions in the market used to prevent swaps. chips being crystalized in its bedding for example, mainboards having its stand-offs *cemented* in a plastic-ceramic alloy.
@@magnitudefallout3944 Yup, my carb doesn't need a laptop to facilitate adjustment.
I'm so happy I stumbled on this channel.❤
This is the best video on tuning I’ve ever seen!
I never knew it was illegal tbh😂
But does anyone give a fuck? Tune it anyway...
It's illegal in the state that I live in :/
It’s not, people are just butthurt that the standard for tuning has gone up dramatically. Once emissions are a concern you have to do things the hard way instead of Mickey Mouse BS. There’s a reason why OEM powertrain calibration is an engineering job not some shit you pick up from your uncle that tunes carbs by ear.
It's illegal when you pull a VW group haha
its illegal in California right now but the concern is it will become federal. I honestly dont think they will ever stop tuning...
Government always loves tackling the small fish for an easy target and easy money. Won't keep me down, can't keep us down! Keep rippin boys and girls!
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Let's be clear...it's democrats. California is ground zero
As a tuner for the greater part of 23 years, bravo on this video. Well done and great basic explanations of basic functions to define a minimum knowledge base for your video. Very well organized and presented.
These videos are absolutely amazing thanks man
Love how FoMoCo has been totally hands off in this. Even allowing thier Engineers on their off time to crack/tune the cars.
That's kinda awesome. Also "FoMoCo" made me chuckle.
Not many people are tuning their FoMoCo F150 trucks.
@@KrustyKlown 2nd Gen Lightnings ring a bell, or Raptors, nevermind 302/351s or 460s.
@@bowez9 point was, the bulk of vehiciles Ford makes now aren't worth tuning, and certainly aren't purchased for performance uses ... maybe a handful of top end low production volume Mustangs and Raptors.
@@KrustyKlown There are other cars/vehicles they do it too as well, some off road rally stuff they will use the Ford Bronco now or the older Edge large crossover again depending on class, then on the Moto truck racing side you can see tuned F150 and Ranger engines in a unique modified chasse with roll cage to the race series they are in, again car type depending on class/series . Also in Baha racing like the Moab races and the Baha 1000, the F150 and Ranger engines are used tuned to racing for the top two bigger classes with the 1/2 and 1/4 millon dollar cars in very specialized racing vehicles.
8:27 You technically can blame the coal rollers for this, compounded by the dieselgate scandal, the epa went at first to the diesel tuners and then moved towards the gas tuners as well.
I think it's simpler and more retarded than that. You can more easily see diesel emissions, especially on large trucks, therefore diesel bad.
As a person who enjoys freedom, i dont blame any tuners. I blame the source, the government.
@Jack Mehoff you win the fkn interweb my friend. So disgusting to see in everyday life how MANY sheeple blindly color inside their gov't prescribed lines while on their best behavior with ZERO clue they themselves have been reprogrammed.🤙🇺🇸🇷🇺
I like tuners and car enthusiasts in general, but I HATE coal rollers (my own car is a modded diesel) -its wasteful, unnecessary and gross, save that shit for the racetrack or risk a brick through your windscreen Shooting flames out the exhaust on a petrol at least looks cool, but if you do them pops and bangs next to ppls homes late at night don't be surprised if you get hounded out too
@@mrD66M Gonna guess by the brick through a windscreen comment you are not from the u.s since if you where you would know doing stupid shit like that is how you get shot.
somehow this man has teached me more about cars than anyone else
Funny you mention bicycles! I have been biking neck and forth from work bc I’d only a few miles and I’ve noticed with my aggressive mountain bike pedals I can apply leg power in two different ways. Method one is like the video mentioned. Which mentally can be visualized and a up/down motion capitalizing on the leverage given by my legs and pedals, method two is where I use the grip of my aggressive pedals too silly power though nearly 360 degrees! It’s much more effort but the human body can adapt amazingly and with some practice I can accelerate MUCH more quickly by balancing the right and left leg/lever and applying as much power as possible through the greatest range of angles possible. It results in fast and effective get up at the cost of my muscles ability to endure long term lol
I love that the EPA decides to focus on enthusiast cars that make up a small amount of overall emissions instead of going after commercial vehicles more strictly. *EDIT* Holy crap mom, I’m famous!!
Bribing of our politicians needs to stop. Most emissions actually come for industrial machines and CMVs. Passenger cars are only a small part of it. You can’t mod your car to run cleaner but Cleetus can “roll coal” all day long.
In other countries the same. It's propaganda. People that drive 10times more there it is necessary (arguable what's necessary and what not) and the other half wich drives less from that 1% people wich tune more than a little don't make any difference! Big problems will only be touched after the small ones are eliminated. The smaller the better but on public they were made big.
Globocorp has lawyers and fights, that's when they're not paying these vermin beforehand. Going after the little guy is painless, for now.
Or "light trucks" which are exempt in USA.
Easy targets ,that's why
You have become the Morgan Freeman of tuning! Love your essays!!
I love that you showed Jay as the definition of a Tuner
I love that final point of "the 1% of tuners aren't going to make a difference"
Let’s be real, almost every WRX still uses a Cobb access port 😂
And legacy GT
Green speed pretty well screwed us
@@DaytonaRoadster Even with my OpenECU, I haven't been able to get an E-Tune because my cat is on the catback right after the downpipe, and not ON the downpipe. It's so stupid.
I always respected what Dinan did back on the early days based on the tuned BMWs I drove from the 80s and 90s. His understanding of a car’s suspension is also masterful.
i’m a comp sci student and its always been a dream of mine to open my own garage for tuning my cars….pretty funny that cars were running assembly language programs at the same time as the atari lol
Great video explaining most of the history of tuning
This is the single greatest video I have ever watched. Not only did it have the absolute top tier intelligent explanations from Jay per the usual, but it was also inspirational. It inspired me to hate the feds even more than I already do. In addition. I am a software engineer. The explanation of the read only memory dating back to the first ECU was so perfectly done. The explanation made concepts that most ordinary people will never understand simple enough that they can get the general idea of how it works without knowing all the nitty gritty details as well as how to interpret binary and hexadecimal values. You’re the goat
love seeing brothas doing content like this
I love your channel your knowledge is absolute gold
This VOICE OVER is gorgeous ! This guy could be a hell of an actor damn it !
Can you make videos on why certain engines get a bad rep?
I second this!
Some engines just suck, but there are a lot of misunderstood engines out there.
I think it is just like other things like why some electronics get a bad rep. One of the main reason i believe is it's just because the engine is bad in quality, easy to break, inefficient, and produce low power compared to the competition for example the engine in delorean. Other is probably because of misconception and people that didn't understand about the engine like subaru's boxer engine for example.
Bad designs and weak parts.
@@169abr the rotary is a perfect example
In Germany, this is normal. I own a tuning shop and we actually do those emission testing procedures. For a simple ECU tune, you'll be looking at around 15-20k, if you pass the first time. Of course as a company, you can sell it to as many cars as you like - if it is the car you tested with the transmission you tested (can't homologate an automatic and then sell for a manual) The bigger Problem is the combination of parts. Since you can not change the code you've homologated, there's no costum dyno tune. Just a flash tune. Also, if you want to install an intercooler, and exhaust or even sometimes different tailpipes, you will have to redo homologation for that specific combination - same thing with intake systems and so on. Imagine having 3 products as a company. An intake (IN), exhaust (EX) and ECU tune(SW). If you want to sell them all individually and in ANY combination possible, you will have to do the following homologations: IN, EX, SW, IN + EX, IN + SW, IN + SW + EX, SW + EX That's roughly 105 - 140k in homologation cost only. Add an Intercooler and you could just buy a lambo instead. Yep. The struggle of germany. If you want to know what tuning looks like in the future, Germany can give you an idea
It's absolutely verrückt
That sounds awful
Does this have to do with the TUV regulations you guys have in Germany?
@@deep_drift yes pretty much. There are a lot of European laws in place like that actually but most of Europe doesn't care that much. Germany cars. Like A LOT
Man, and that's insane! In New Zealand you can change intake/exhaust/tune/wheels etc no problem. Though things like engine/trans swaps and suspension/brake upgrades will warrant a certificate plate. Rules around car modification are pretty relaxed here in the grand scheme of things
I'm so happy I found your channel!!!
Some tuning companies tune for emissions too. For example: when to open up the EGR valve or on a variable valve timing engine when to close the exhaust valve sooner in relation to normal valve timing.
I have yet to see an ECU that could not be cracked. The problem now is if you crack it, the dealer can tell and then void your warranty. Piggy back units are getting much better, and the good ones are completely untraceable. None of this has to do with clean air, it's all about squeezing money out of people. Luckily, modern cars are getting so good, you can have really fast car, and a warranty. I also think this is a big reason we are seeing the used car market go through the roof. Much easier to mod a 90's car and still get it to pass emissions, unless you're in the anti-freedom state of CA.
The problem is when people start referring to warranties. You either deal with the consequences like a man, or put on a tutu, and cry to the dealership about something you probably broke.
Fuck a warranty when you’re having to do what the manufacturer should have done…
@@kensmechanicalaffair Too many people have done exactly that. Buy a car, bolt-on a bunch of crap, don't tune it right, blow the car up, and then cry foul and try to blame it on the manufacturer. Twenty years ago people were getting away with it too. As long as you're smart about what you do, you can have a little fun and pump the vehicle up without risking it. At the end of the day, if you can't afford to fix it, don't take the gamble.
You can program a engine ecu so it's undetectable that its been tuned. Vehicle ecu's are not super computers.
@@moabman6803 The modern car network connects to each other using two wire can bus, fiber optic, and an ethernet cable, lol. It's super computing trust.
The way you narrate your videos is nothing short of perfect. Love the way you explain things! Keep it up!
In today's racing world, there is a huge difference between and real tuner and a computer guy. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Motown.
That New Edge at the end is a fighter, keeping up with that new Mustang..
5:00 - on a N/A motor 0% ethanol you target 12.5 - 12.7ish because that is when the burn has the most velocity and thus makes the most power. You may add more fuel to help cool the intake charge and cylinder temps. Also, 14.7 is used purely for environmental / emissions reasons around cruise rpm and MAP since leaner mixtures create more NOX emissions but also reduce fuel consumption during cruise
Spot on! This is the most logical and straight forward video i've seen so far in this topic. Well done!
These videos are most informative. A toast to excellence in education, Cheers.👍😎👍
Great video. I look forward to checking out your channel. Thanks. Cheers
The quote: “it would be disingenuous to think that the cammed zo6 driving around the parking lot is lowering your life exepectency, when you probablly vape” its sooo truem
This guy always brings the heat with every video. love you man.
Another thing too is that in some cases you are better off swapping your ECU, but with complex programs that we have nowadays it is impractical to do it with newer cars.
bro i learn on mechanik and i have first year over, thats mean i go yet to next year and iam very happy for your content of engines thx bro , I can't get enough of the information I've learned at the moment. sorry for my english
It really doesn’t help the people mandating this are so out of touch with the modern world, the one lady that was being asked about normal people racing thought all that existed was “NASCAH”. These people need to honestly be rooted out as any GOOD tuner makes your car run better than factory. Another HUGE thing is that E85 was completely passed up on and we went straight to electric. E is cheap, renewable, and can be easily worked in but no it all has to be electric.
G4
Yeah it feels weird how we completely skipped on E fuel when it's by nature a "carbon capturing bio fuel" since it's made of corn.
@@almostlastplace overall it's not good for the environment at all
@@almostlastplace e85 is not all it's cooked up to be. It's less energy dense and filthy as all getup in your fuel system.
Yeah, e85, let’s burn our food. Did you ever wonder why your box of Cheerios is $6 now.🤦 As soon as farmers could make more money growing corn for ethanol, they used far less acreage for growing corn we consume and the food prices skyrocketed and never went back down. The epa legislation caused our grocery bills to double. Stupid effing move. Think critically people, stop thinking for the moment and try to see the big picture. What good is a “saved planet” when no one but a few can actually afford to live on it.
Love for 337. This channel is just keeps leveling up.
1:49 i have the exact same multimeter on my bench at home that is sitting on that dashboard. Its a Hewlett Packard 3435A.
Excellent video so far, but i gotta ask while i remember, are tou from Atlanta? The way you said "change" sounded exactly like Killer Mike 😂 ❤from Perth Aus
This man's voice; when paired with these topics and the peak emphasis he puts on certain things in a sentence just commands you to listen up and listen closely. 👌👌👌
I've actually noticed a lot more tuners getting CARB EO for their tunes. I do believe recently APR has finally gotten EO for their tunes and even lesser known like 034Motorsport has recently gotten an EO for my car. If the company has the money and patience to plow through the BS redtape, they can get an EO.
but all that raises the price of entry for the consumer, its the banana republic route, its great if you have all the money, but good luck if you a normal person. They went the same route with Gun control in the US, drive the cost of entry up so much only the elites can afford it. effetely outlawing it for the regular folks. only the rich will be able to tune their cars, its shame because that's where so much talent is grown and built into a healthy industry and economy... but who cares about the future, might save a spotted owl in 40 years
Love the video, but that LG G3 boot intro killed me. 😂 That was a throwback to the glory days of Android.
I parked my performance diesel truck in about 2015 and didnt mess with it until 2023, boy I didnt realize how hard it is to get performance tunes nowadays! Im pretty shocked how much the diesel tuning market has changed. I have 6.0 powerstroke and a LLY duramax and the tuning for both is so limited now!
The insanity of government regulation is brightly highlighted by CARB. In 2002 an acquaintance of mine took his twin turbocharged '89 Mustang to get an emissions check, after finishing his projects. The brand new EP3 Honda Civic Si that was sniff tested before his car was running dirtier across the CARB emissions test run than the modified decade old Ford.
This is what I don’t understand about California and the smog checks. If you modify your car and it’s cleaner or the same as stock it should pass. I feel that carb is a cash grab, and or they don’t trust enthusiasts to maintain the emissions of their cars.
Thank god my county doesn’t do emissions
@@deep_drift You feel it? No, it's been always about the $ they don't give a shit about anything they say they stand for. Maybe a naive employee does
@@AnotherMotorist CARB has good intentions of keeping the air clean, however they have a big overreach when it comes to car emissions especially with these types of issues.
Yeah, with modern tuning capabilities, knowledge, parts, materials, etc., you can do a clean burning boosted monster that can even run idle and on "tame street" mode that will run cleaner and with better performance then anything the Big Corps are craping out of the assembly line.
“That cammed Z06 across the parking lot”. Thanks for the shout out😂. Ima keep running dumps to piss off the EPA😂
Excellent video. Thank you
Anyone else notice how hard it is to have fun these days?
I love your content bro! Easily my favorite channel on yt rn! Keep it up!
And people wonder why I like carbies so much.....hahahaha Fantastic video as always 337 SPEED, the research, delivery and editing is absolutely spectacular. Its a credit to you.
I'm more of a compression ignition fan myself
@No U hahahaha, nothing wrong with the diesels.
@@carculture3376 Except our fuel prices they hurt
Im more of an uncontrolled detonation fan myself.
this video is amazing showing the lamda and all that
Where i live in Houston, it seems every diesel truck is rolling coal or has a bolt on exhaust etc. Im pro tuning but blowing black smoke everywhere on a daily driven vehicle is excessive.
Great video. Perfect mix of software, mechanics, social comment and history.
Your videos are literally some of the best explained on KZhead 🙏 Do a VR6 the German 2jz
Why call it the "German 2JZ" ? There already literally has been inline 6s that existed LONG before the 2JZ. For example, Ford 300 inline 6(which literally that engine is effin' bulletproof, and indestructible), and the RB26(Smokey Nagata, put that engine in one of his "Top Secret" MK4 A80 Supra which that particular Supra went up to 200+ MPH)
@@dewarkhodern9990 people don’t understand what inline means 😢 VR6 are great engines, I love my 1.8T more. I love my 300ci the most muahah 428k daily driver boosting @ 500k.
@@dewarkhodern9990 the vr6 is not an inline 6
@@jesusiskingofkings4428 Yet OP refered to it as "German 2JZ"
@@jesusiskingofkings4428 sure it is ,it's an inline v-6
Excellent video. Great research.
well put man. great video. its sad to see what the gov and manufactures are going to do in the future.
Another great fast, info dense video! Thank you the c8 z06 does interesting things with airbox resonance. Seems like the engine guys did their homework. Too bad the dealer markups are insane, but even the basic Stingray is a gem unto itself.
I doubt there will ever be a truly un hackable ecu. Your going against 1 the human nature to understand and control things and 2 the amount of professionally taught software engineers that do this stuff for either pay or it’s their hobby. I mean look up almost any device ever that’s somewhat popular, odds are you can find out how to modify the software on the device
The C8 is extremely damning of the future sadly
You're a special one.
@@169abr It's just a network of modules. It's implemented in a more modern way but, a doofus wants to tune the shit and still connect to the internet... It literally does over the air vehicle updates like a Tesla. You either want performance, or dick aroumd with your infotainment system. I'm glad they can't tune it, they're stupid and aid over reach by the Government. A goofie with too much money.
No software is uncrackable.
There are ECU replacements that are tuner friendly, Holly EFI for one, it's expensive but it'll work if you're really determined to tune an un-tuneable ECU.
Funny, i reverse engineered my stock ECU and used an EEPROM to tune it at first ... but it was easier as the original PROM also contained the program, not just the data, so i figured which pin was driving injectors and coils to get a head start. There is another important aspect to the end of tuning, too; sports car engines are becoming more and more pushed in stock form. Most of them already have forged pistons and rods with forced induction, and the engine blocks are built to material fatigue tolerance, so they are lighter and smaller. The days of throwing an insanely strong and heavy lump of iron with forged internals that can withstand triple the original engine power (like toyota did with the mk4 supra) is long gone.
What you said there at 10:20 . My first thought after hearing you say that was, so it sounds like stand alone will become a lot more common, and cheaper. Then hopefully more common means more people learning on there own through forums, videos, or meeting people and asking them, instead of relying on tuners
The detail with these videos is why this is one of the best performance channels here. Tuners pushing the envelope and innovating is why this freedom will persist.
12:37 blud caught me right in the middle of an inhale too, well played
I'll be honest I have yet to have one of my cars tuned , but my 2004 Impala LTZ has been a blast to drive without even putting a chip in it , tops out at 120 but no real need to go that fast I don't take it to a track(too old of a car for me to push hard it's my baby) I hope that the future for cars is better torque and mpg I understand there is always a need to push it a little more and go a little faster but if I can go 100 and it feels safe and smooth I'm all for it , stock can also save some headaches modifications can bring along. If things run smooth at decent speed from the dealership then seems fun to me.
Add this to the list of reasons we need right to repair. I should be able to run whatever software I want to on MY car. I don't care if that's a 90's Honda or a Tesla. If the software I'm running is open-source, the EPA can check and make sure I'm not trying to defeat the smog tests. We can still verify that reasonable rules are being followed, but allow freedom to tune to their heart's content
Whoever makes an EV with open source code will become a billionaire overnight. Lack of right to repair is the main thing keeping me from buying an EV.
337 Speed dropping another high quality video 🙏🏿
I think some high-end companies need to make after-market ECU devices that include the appropriate sensor devices to allow you to keep the vehicle in compliance with emissions standards while tuning it. It would specifically place the limiters to the legal limits, but let you tune anywhere below that point, which would allow you to get substantially higher performance out of the engines. Most notably, since it would be utilizing sensors in the exhaust system to handle the capping, it could bring any other untested aftermarket parts into compliance, barring some extreme cases like non-compliant catalytic converters or fuel additives. While this means one additional expensive component would be needed, all the other components could operate without the high cost of certification themselves, making only one component require certification.
I feel that car enthusiasts will find a new passion in old carb tech.
No matter what the government is trying to regulate, whether it’s emissions, gas cans, guns, recreational plants, dog breeds, whatever, the correct answer is NO. We need to declare a 1,000 year moratorium on new laws being passed and let the bastards instead debate on which ones to repeal.
Just, no. No murder bans No robbery bans No slavery bans Do you want to live in The Purge? E: I literally was an anarchist, and then I grew up... I can tell you all the reasons why anarchy would fail.
Here’s how it works: Some media whore/politician stokes hysteria about Vermulkey valves or West Cleveland Staring frogs. Don’t know what those things are? Well, neither does the journalist/politician. Enough vo-turds know nothing but *are*susceptible to hysteria that it passes. Aaaaaaaannnnd another stupid law is passed, incrementally lowering any joy or purpose in being a human alive on Earth. It is impossible to be knowledgeable on everything. It is certain you will be fed hysteria and lies by those who want money and control. That’s why the reflexive, invariable, instant response to “Should we regulate/ban/mandate…” is “Hell No!”. Ideally followed by tarring and feathering the proposer.
@@WanderingExistence Those bans don't stop people now and they get away with it more often than they're caught.
We need another revolution my friend and I'm ready!
@@WanderingExistence it would be better than having your entire existence regulated! And by the way, it's called Anarchy the purge was a movie
Another good point to mention for California is newer vehicles do not need to be smogged for the first seven years after you purchase so technically you have free reign for a few years if you want to modify and can always take it back to stock.
Good ol cali... Gotta keep the poors down while still allowing the rich kids to have fun.
@@GS-jk4cs with car prices these days it makes sense just to get a new car regardless.
👏🏼 very well done and said.. I think the younger generations will eventually learn what a carburetor is, but will sadly never learn how they work let alone how to tune them properly. The digital era has made us all soft. 😢
That corvett tamper override is insane. Remember when you could own things you paid for?
Man i forgot half the stuff i wanted to write because i got so hooked by the vid. Explanations on point, visuals fitting, i can hear the voice clear over the nice tune running in background... Now i gotta watch it again! Thanks! lol. 💓 But yeah. Most stuff that is fun and makes sense nowadays is regulated. The thing is it's regulated by crooks that put profit in front of everything else... And emissions from private car owners really are NOT the problem. The industry should be taken more responsible for putting all the dirt out in the environment. Yeah sure we buy the stuff and they even trying to make us fell bad for it, lol. But in the end it's them creating the need for such things. Only because of profit. ..i.. :D Ima keep tuning, 0 f given. 💀 Peace o7
Makes me want to build a car from the ground up with a crate engine. I'm an electrical engineer who does embedded software and I also speak solder. So I'm thinking I would just either get a COTS ECU for a small block or Coyote or do it myself. Interesting that Pappadakis' tuning of the Supra involved fabbing a custom EFI manifold b/c the stock Supra tuning was locked down tight.
I'm a mechanical engineer. I'm thinking of doing exactly that but with a subaru boxer hehehe.
@@FLMKane u guys should team up and make the ultimate car specifics to car enthusiasts, funny enough i actually thought of doing what both of u did which is try to the learn the basics and make my own engine and ecu system but the only experience i got is building a custom computer system from scratch and thats incomparable to what u guys are doing
This really good - got a LOT heavier than I expected at first glance, in a good way , still watching so gotta go but thanks!
Love your videos!