'BLOOD SOAKED' horses running through London a 'reminder of why they are NOT military equipment'
2024 ж. 24 Сәу.
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'Most people around the world would really miss having these horses representing Britain.'
Former Editor of Horse and Hound, Lucy Higginson, argues why horses should by kept in the military, as activists call for their removal following yesterday's incident in London.
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There are far more dangerous 'animals' running around the streets of London 24-7.
Like the gammons who rioted on st georges day
@@Evemeister12🎉 Disgraceful 🐀s, showing the whole world what British values are 🎉
@@Evemeister12 Oh give it a rest, they were restrained by the police in a way the overcooked brown steak never is
@@Evemeister12There was no rioting. Without provocation the police kettled in the marchers and used heavy handed tactics including mounted riot police. Two-tier policing at it's finest.
@@Evemeister12 Imaging being l0nely and tired of your life so you post that for attention. I'm glad🤗🤗🤗
It was an accident. Those horses are very well cared for, and loved by their cavalry, and carers. If this had happened many times, I would 100% back not using them. But, this was a very rare occurrence. Don’t bring a vegan on for an objective opinion. Horses are bred to be ridden, and if they don’t want to be ridden, they let you know really quickly.
Not necessary to use horses in a big city anymore it's just old British bollocks, we are no longer an empire we are a trodden down has been infested with immigrants, proud to be British yes proud of Britain NO
AMEN!
We are having history and heritage and way life destroyed by idiots wef treasonous banking change agents on foreign interlopers where does this end😢
I agree with the above comment 100%. It was an accident, that is all. Of course, certain cranks would actually like to ban all equestrian sport too.
Oh shut up, they're well looked after, it was a freak accident that rarely happens. I bet they are better treated then some horses out there in farmers fields etc.
Even the horses can sense London's unstable now.
Lol Amen!
They take excellent care of their horses. Unlike polo playing abuser Harry.
Once the streets were full of horses,
Genius. Now they are full of cars and stupid pedestrians.
@@TheRimute I don't mind the horses, the cars or the pedestrians, just the newly-arrived surgeons and engineers.
@@TheRimuteThe point when straight over your head Einstein.
And sword sticks, and free manure, and duels at dawn, and tax free gin houses. And empty countries like Australia where they could send all the criminals. What's the world come to? 😂😢
@@personalcheeses8073wasn't Einstein a Physicist? Don't you mean the Wright Brothers?
She obviously doesn't realise that the best way to put the horses lives at risk is to stop them being used ceremonially. Sadly, they would not exist without the role.
Rubbish
@@KarlLehmann-mf4tg What a well reasoned arguement!
For goodness sake. One little accident. Yous all didn't have a problem with them last week. Leave the dam horses alone. Clearly don't have anything else important enough.
These horses are some of the best looked after animals. This was a such a rare instance ,its made world news. And I hope the people and horses make a full recovery. But what a over reaction from Peta. To say they should be stopped for the public safety. Then Nottinghill Carnival ,should be stopped for peoples safety, there is a hell of a lot more people hurt there ,year in year out.
💯 agree
Horses used to be just as expendable as young men were. Now horses are considered to be very precious.
The way horses were treated during and after the war was just typical of the inhumanity of humans. No life matters to these awful entities.
@@lucyallsop88 = 100% Full on in agreement with ya = Human Beings = "scum of the Earth" (many are)
@@lucyallsop88 No mention of the young men, OK, got it.
The men have voices.
@@lucyallsop88 They didn’t actually, over the last couple of centuries there has been conscription, press gangs and when “voluntary” white feathers were often handed to many young men who didn’t sign up, a symbol of cowardice and public shame in their local community but you wouldn’t know that my dear.
Its not the horses in London we need to worry about though is it and they are militiary equipment.
What a load of shite.
It didn't take long for this kind of debate.
Those horses are safer and better cared for than some recruits.
The activist should shut up these horses are well looked after really well it’s a really exceptional for this to happen regular hope the horses an guards are ok ❤❤❤❤
she does realize if they banned them 2moro they be sent to the glue factory the day after
Why does nobody speak about the kind of responsibility from builders?? They should wait until horses have passed their building site in the very heart of London. ! Do they have common sense at all?
No,!!!!
It was not the builders fault, they were working high up behind thick mesh, to keep the rubble off the streets, they wouldn't have seen or maybe even heard the horse, I am sure that when they heard the news they were as shocked as you, I and everyone else was and still is
No, they're builders. The question answers itself.
No they don't
A building site in the very heart of London. 😏
All those women constantly working on ending traditions out of serious concern and a killjoy attitude.
What's her thoughts on using horses as WEAPONS....Like yesterday?
They were once essential military equipment. Urban people have probably never seen a bit of blood on a live animal, so they’re shocked.
that reminds me, I have... a foal that had hurt his little hoofs, that was also not a nice sight... but still I found this incident here shocking. why is everybody trying to talk people down on this, as if this was nothing? I don't get it, must have been even much worse or else we would all been informed what exactly happened... they only stayed vague about what caused it all.
@@manuela9671Hope your foal gets better, hope you’ve had the vet to him. The care and living conditions of the guards horses is second to none. Some of troops riding around have not had the riding experience that guards would have years ago much less last century. They haven’t lived in the saddle. In the 1800s there was no shortage of young men with plenty of riding experience. The other day a guard fell off when a horse jumped forward a few feet, the fellow needs more time in the saddle. So in the footage, obviously two guards fell off their horses and neither of them held or caught their mount. Those horses injured themselves once riderless. And the fact there was two of them probably made it worse, the horse with the cut was still moving well so hopefully it was superficial, they bleed like stuck pigs with even a small puncture wound. Animals are not human beings so if an animal is hurt we shouldn’t be indifferent however it should not be a cause of hysterical trauma as seeing a person getting injured. Most people who have not had much experience with using horses to work livestock or hunt are usually very sensitive to seeing a horse injured through accident, I’ve seen quite q few badly injured horses and many of them make a good recovery, despite the fact that they lost some blood, the ones that aren’t going to recover need to be put down quickly and humanely. Now let’s talk about the horse owners that don’t look after their horses properly, there are plenty of them, some of them keep old or ill horses alive that should be put down because they don’t have the guts to do the right (humane) thing by the animal, they’re cruel bastards. Let’s talk about the urban dwellers who don’t know anything about animals, horses but still want to have an opinion about what is or isn’t appropriate for a horse, they’re ignorant and become hysterical over a bit of blood, they’ll probably want horses banned from household cavalry. If everyone calms down and accepts that the reality is that generally these horses have a better life than many other horses do then we can move on.
Keep the horses
lmao typical ban that ban this brigade out in force as always
Horses started being used for crowd control for a variety of reasons. First, they provide their riders with a mobile elevated platform from which the riders can easily coordinate action. Secondly, they are cushioned by nature, and can gently push people aside. They also command respect for their sheer size. It would be interesting to know how many of the police and Army horses on duty in London have been harmed in the performance of their duties over the years. It must be much less dangerous than mainstream racing, especially steeplechase, or showjumping.
They saw a picture of Harry.
his wife more like...😐😏
@@manuela9671 His wife's awful, but don't you know about Harry's horse abuse?
24 hours later GB News tells us something we already know !!!!
Animals aren't human playthings.
They are not treated as such!
Well done to GB News for not blurring the images like other news channels. They all seem to have a problem with reality.
I just want to know how these horses are now. Are them surviving?
You can't do it. They can do it. It's ego. That is the bottom line. Poor horses.
I notice that nobody is citing this as a reason not to use horses for crowd control - so long as it's the 'right' crowd they're charging into.
Totally agree with the Animal Rights Spokesperson
I really hope both of the injured horses fully recover from their injuries and ordeal, and will hopefully be reassigned to less stressful duties. This was a one-off occurrence, and nothing to do with cruelty to these majestic animals.
The 2 runaway horses are in a serious condition even after an operation and excellent vetanary care, the riders are on the mend and will soon be back to work, lets hope this never happens again
Vida the grey mare (white) one has been treated by an equine vet and is now in its home stable. Quaker the black mare was treated by an equine vet, but further treatment at an equine hospital is now happening.
Get a grip. People ride horses all over the place, are you going to ban them now - pathetic
Nothing should scare these horses, they’re trained to be bomb proof
So are soldiers - you've never been to war, have you?
Stop it FFS leave our culture alone.
This is why our country is now in a shit state ... every single normal thing in life has to be obsessed over is it right is it moral or ethical ffs horses in the military have amazing quality of life they go on leave and retire at the end of their career like humans do .. I spent 18 years in the gaurds and worked with the cavalry alot ... people need to wake up and stop talking shit all day long
The builders who dropped rubble right near where the horses were was incredibly loud & spooked them which was careless and preventable. I wish them & those injured a speedy recovery 🙏 PETA guest was ridiculous & a complete turn off.
Free all animals from suffering by going vegan. May no animal ne abused and used.
Of courses they were the only military equipment and should never be Forgotten
Police horses that do crowd control are generally much calmer than most military horses, by training and/or breed. First thing to look at is do they go through enough desensitizing training and only use quieter minded animals, such as pure Irish Draughts or draught breed crosses. Plus severe bits and spurs and that military style riding said hold the horse between bit and spur, which is a harsh method.
Pathetic to say ban the, this was a freak accident where builders dropped concrete that made a loud noise that started the horses but some people acting like this is an everyday thing
Ffs..... humans aren't military equipment either. They're ceremonial horses ffs
Horses aren’t the only thing running around London.
We've only been using horses for the military and warfare for thousands of years.. It's quite a trendy new fad, I agree.
also, why would they have been stopped so late, they could have been stopped much earlier and they ran a pretty long way through London, no telling about why that was, this report is not even full and complete. there are lots of questions unanswered.
What a wast of nation's time.
Horses have been working animals for thousands of years. Horses are sensitive but they DO respond AND ACCEPT training very well. If horses aren't used then eventually they will disappear. Stopping horses from working will mean they will not be bred. PETA will eventually succeed in destroying the human/ horse and human/dog etc. relationship. This kind of discussion really is based on an over emotional approach to animals rather than the a true understanding of the amazing capabilities that animals have to work alongside humans in all sorts of situations. Long live the working horse!
what happened to the horses, no one seems to give a shit about them, only what happened afterwards.
Both horses after excellent vetinary care and an operation, are in a serious condition,
Londoner born here, she doesn't speak for me, I'd much rather non exorbitant food/house/flat prices than some ceremonial horses to make visiting "dignitaries" feel good about themselves.
Personally thinking, todays society isn't safe for humans and animals. Ive seen videos of a Staff, ripping chunks out of a helpless horse and police rider. Our guards are being disrespected, along with the horses 🐎 outside our palace, no wonder they bite. Also, many slip-on on the cobles, potentially hurting horses and riders. London has progressed with more and more people. They are beautiful, its such a shame to see the horror that happened. Police horses in mass groups get jabbed to react and hooefully throw off the police riders. Wake up, please 🙏 😢
Never in my 84 years have I seen or known of this type of incident. Therefore, why should well trained horses be withdrawn because of one mishap. They are well cared for and loved by their riders. Over reaction from somene looking for their 5 minutes of fame
How often do horses run amok in the streets of London? Oh. Slow news day?
or was it a suffragette once again that caused this... 🥺🙄 not the first time a horse has been hurt... just saying. edit: also it is not a one time accident, there was an accident during the coronation which not many know about... and it was pretty serious too that day... could have been much worse. while I am not for taking them out of the military etc but it is just a lie that this was one-time event.
This was an unfortunate ACCIDENT. It doesn't happen on a daily basis. If this sort of thing happened on a regular basis, then it would definitely be cancelled.
You sure Jeremy Corbyn didn't cause this?
almost happened during the coronation, just look into old videos of it, it also included almost hurting the on-lookers or tourists or spectators/bystanders, was a pretty serious incident... also with a horse being nervous all of a sudden... was a close call. just not everybody noticed, also Princess Anne was at near proximity to the incident. She rode in front of the group of horses that got nervous... so, each incident is an incident too much.
more like, I find it odd that there is a discussion so late after that incident... shouldn't people have talked about it much earlier, I mean, about this incident... shows that people see them as "just animals", as if there was nothing happening which sure there was. Very sad... And I thought as much that the animals, these two horses, would be in a terrible state... I hope they will be fine again.
Ban animals.
The agenda is to ban pets.
If PETA had its way all animals would be free to roam, not eaten, not kept as pets, no horse racing. If their was no risk in life it wouldnt be worth living. Just eating, sleeping, walking and making love can be risky.
No one has said what actually happened. They say it was the one that threw his rider on horse guards. It wasn’t. That horse was caught on horse guards. And taken into the stables. And like every other horse on parade was black. I know. That’s a racist word how ever it was BLACK. The horse seen running down London road that crashed into a taxi was BLACK. not the one from horse guards. The white one covered in blood was covered in blood when first seen. And was WHITE. NOT ON PARADE AT HORSEGUARDS. IF YOU WATCH THE WHOLE OF WHAT IS SEEN. THERE WERE NO WHITE HORSES ON PARADE. ANYWHERE. SO 2hat happened and where. If you don’t want horses on parade in a ceremony. Then. Wh6 risk their lives or human lives in a riot or like StGeoges day parade driven deliberately into a group of people who were peaceful Untill you drove the horses into the crowd. And those horses were not ridden by soldiers on ceremony were they.
No one said what happened! Lots to hide by the army over why the horses freaked out😮
The horses were being exercised. Not every horse is on parade every day. The Lifeguards riding the horses were not in ceremonial uniform. The grey (white) mare Vida is a Trumpeter's horse, which are always grey (white). The Troopers' horses are always black. The Drum horses are Shire Horses as the drums are heavy.
You got a much bigger problem than horses around the streets Londonistan
First why that over-the-top title? "Blood soaked", second please let's stop contributing to this mentality of weakness when if something bad happens then instead of accepting it as part of life, improving it if it is possible, the weak approach is to eradicate the element..really awful, a paternalistic culture that creates stupid and lack of accountability people. Yes, this accident is not great, fortunately, nothing extreme happened... let's face problems, learn from them, be better, let's not hide under rocks to avoid them. Life is life and unexpected things can happen at any time.
The problem is to hurt the animals. I don't miss having animals. I'm an animal lover and I don't want to see the animals there.
If it was the black horse the blood wouldn't have showed up and be noticed a small cup of blood can make a hell of a mess
@GBNews - The guests and this whole debate, people really do have short memories, not know history! How on earth did the horses cope on the real battlefields in WWI and all battles here and abroad, prior to that???? Remember the Knights of old - they too rode into battle on horseback. Can you imagine the noise, sound of gun fire, cannons, land-mines, explosions, men yelling. Yet the horses rarely bolted - I'd like to bet on that fact. Plus the horses were very well cared for, due to their importance. Albeit many got injured, or k*lled, as so did the humans.
Dont hear much people talk about sential camels being used to carry humans😢
To be pass as a Military Horse, they have to be trained, athletic and healthy. Army horse’ are engaged, exercised and looked after to a v high standard
OK, in that case cancel horse riding, racing, jumping, three day eventing, dressage... Instead put them all out to pasture so that they can spend their lives reproducing and munching grass !!
Wel said, can you imagine turning out competition horses and leaving them alone . Its not good news for the 2 runaways, after treatment and operations both in serious condition, riders are ok
As ever, the 'arguments' in favour of the continued human utilisation of other species boils down to human 'want' rather than genuine need. "But we like seeing them and we have done this for hundreds of years" doesn't really address whether or not it's appropriate to use animals for whatever purpose we happen to 'like'. Neither does feebly explaining that these horses are (rigorously) trained to be able to handle any situation human society throws at them. The process of 'training' a horse to be used as transport and to put up with human behaviour and demands is called "breaking" for a reason. Oh, and I speak as a former equestrian.
Horse is very sensitive than we human sometimes because they are very clever, that you all know of course, so people habe to treat hirses very gently.....😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😮❤❤❤
If the horse's are not used for certain reason's there will not be horse's strolling around the streets free as cow's and sheep and horse's are breed only for a reason
Let’s get this into perspective before came along horses and cart were a mode of transport how so you think they coped then.
the poor black horse collided with the bus. I saw it, it was awful. I do agree about crowd control with horses is wrong. In ceremonial duties, I don’t see anything wrong. They do go out to fields for holidays !
The incident was because of construction in area. Not because of horse mistreatment. The horses are treated with great care and health care always top tier. Sue the construction firm that at heart of this instance leave horses alone.
The horses arenot alwaystreated with great care , as someoneon another web site had proof that a guardsman had hit oneof the horseson ti's face twice , and spooked it.
The Militrary need to urgently review how they manage equines within the context of modern day challenges. The events earlier this week could have been avoided if a pre-ride reconesance excercise had taken place. This is a must in today's London. The Militrary need to work with the mounted police regarding safety in preparing horses for public duty and roadwork. Hi VIS(ability) PPE was missing from both horses and riders. This may have caught the eye of the construction workers prompting them to stop work whilst the troop past by. The police use PPE effectively for horse and rider. The army needs to realise that safety comes before traditional exercise dress. Following the British Horse Society Riding and Road Safety Guidelines for a start. An outcome from these events must be that Hi VIS PPE is mandatory for roadwork.
For gods sake, stop this nonsense.How many times did you see this happen,me never.The horses were spooked by builders banging equipment,and the horses bolted.Horses are an absolute necessity to our army and police.
A horse a horse a kingdom for a horse. Honestly, why try and tame a horse that is not yours, already skittish probably shit with the farrier the lot but still try , why not get a older steadfast horse, Loving little vida and the others, and pleased the riders are ok! He's a one too one horse no one else let her be there!
They will put a stop to these horses. What about the police horses. Just a thought
Let's debate this . 😅 No no no the horses stay . Lefty drips can go.
Shut up you self proclaimed experts
Could be a sign of an imminent earthquake.
Pair of psychopaths. Not the horses.
They already lost their jobs and now you don't want them on the streets 😂
She wants to ban horses in all sports and all roles they’re involved in
activists becoming more and more nonsensical
Always amazes me how spooked horses get its like they don't realise how big they are.
Its their fight or flight instincts, and yesterday as we all saw was Flight ..
Why don't they mind their own. Horses are our royal guardians there is no consideration for our guards noises are a hindrance in the city this getting rid. Of horse. Also apply to people that cause problems on our streets and risking lives what are all these protesting doing putting people at war with each other leave the horses alone. .
basically, the Horses are a legacy of the late Queen, she loved horses and would never have not have horses around her... so, horses should be around... at least in the mind of traditionalists... and I like them too. ( I might be critical of the Royals here and there, but would never criticise them for the horses issue... the horses just belong.)
She yapped on about chickens and cows last time she was on ,but didn't want to talk about the slaughter of unwanted pets ,I think her organisation carried out ? Should we use and train horses for sports and events, obsolutely ? But we should not use them to try and control rallies, funny they used a black and white horse to kettle the St. Georges Day rally ? Hope theres no connections to the rally. Nobody attempted to kill the horses and blame it on the people of the rally? The horses are well looked after ,unlike the unwanted pets that have been slaughtered because of the costs? Please fact-check and please double-check that these horses were not used in the St. Georges day rally ?
So what the argument seems to be is, we can use horses as expensive toys, for our personal pleasure, but, we can't use horses as tools! We can own horses, but not necessarily be financially able to afford them the proper care if required, and, as private owners, still ride our horses through streets, or on roads that can present any amount of danger, either to the animal, the rider, or a third party! Lots of privately owned horses are kept on their own, it can be a pitiful sight (im not saying abused), but they look bloody miserable, yet military and police horses are kept together in fairly large numbers, have had the very best training (as have their riders) and will be afforded the very best, no expense spared care, and feed. This whole debate could well spew over into the realms of private ownership if it continues. If 6ft troopers can't stop a horse, I'm pretty sure the same could be said about private owners! I suppose it will be military and police dogs next! Maybe even sniffer dogs! God forbid, we train them to spend their lives sniffing drugs, thats so cruel, isn't it? What would happen to the horses? Clearly they couldn't be trusted, after all, they have just utterly destroyed London and its inhabitants 😂 so it would be ridiculous to think they could be sold to joe public. Maybe dogfood? Possibly, if they were sold abroad. Sh*t happens, any harm that befell those horses was done by the horses. They were not mistreated, it was all self inflicted, they weren't ridden or driven into obstacles, they ran into them!
Look how many times Queen Victoria has gone through London on horse back, its our tradition and values, stop trying to make our country into a 3rd world Islamic state, it will never happen, if you don't like our heritage, just get out
Nonsense.
God these people need to get over themselves and stop trying to ruin British tradition of horses used for ceremonies.
the Queen loved horses so much, we see it is the time after the late Queen, under the Queen, this would never have happened, I bet. edit: sorry, while the current Queen loves horses too as far as I know, but it is not the same as with the late Queen, she really looked after all her horses and made sure they were fine, not like this incident which shows that they are clearly not as fine as before and not looked after as before.
@@manuela9671 no yeah I completely agree with you there.
Did you seriously invite a member of Peta on to talk about animal welfare? You might want to have a look at how many puppies they euthanise every year, before you present them as people who care about the ethical treatment of animals, they are anything but that.
Ok we stop everyone riding horses, who is going to look after all these retired horses, in fields doing nothing? Because if you stop everyone riding horses, or using horses to pull carriages etc. All what is going to happen, are tens of hundreds or tens of thousands of horse being put down, by their owners. All because a few people, want the Army and others to stop riding horses. What next stop children from riding ponies too, or riding donkey's at the seaside next as well? My partner is ex Royal Artillery, anyone try going after the King's Troop Royal Artillery Horses, everyone serving in and former members of the Artillery, would be up in arms about it! It not just the Life Guards and the Blues and Royals, who have military horse, there are other units who have military horses too,! Also what the Ponies and Horses, who are Regiment Pets and/or Mascots too, is the Army going expected to give these up as well? Some people need to either grow up, or get off their high horses, so to speak!
Well, that didn’t take long did it?
A lot of it is down to their riders only getting a crash course in riding as some of them had never ridden before going into the household cavalry some one who has ridden all there life might have been able to react better having more experience 😮
WOKE rubbish.
Rubbish news. To say they are not military equipment, is to say the sword is not military equipment 😂 just because its not your 'go to' presently, doesn't mean it won't be once again in the future!
Peta terrorists in my opinion.always telling the same thing.And it goes on and on and on.They are so boooooring.
Empathetic people caring about the well-being of animals. There is nothing bad about that
The horses have a wonderful life far better than others.
I thought they were now in a stable condition
Pun intended, I hope!
@andywright9194 oh yes 🥁