The Dodge Challenger Scatpack is INSANE | Full Review
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The 2021 Dodge Challenger Scatpack is a unique, FAST, and cool car in its own way. Let's review this beast and see if it's worth buying the scatpack.
The 2021 Dodge Challenger Scatpack is a unique, FAST, and cool car in its own way. Let's review this beast and see if it's worth buying the scatpack.
Own a manual scat pack: Reliability: A Acceleration: A Braking: A Exterior: A (but that’s because I love challengrs :) Interior: B Corners: D Sound: A (4000 rpm to redline in 3rd and 4th :) Comfort: B Cost: C (brakes are stupid expensive, insurance is expensive, gas is expensive, but the car doesn’t breakdown- at least not yet. Best way to minimize maintenance costs are to do things yourself). Great video, really well made, but I’m a little bias to my car.
agreed, I too have the TR-6060, 6 piston repairs cost as much as I have paid for used cars!
As you should, it's beautiful car
Paying over MSRP: F Interior: F Exterior: D
@@PatrickGotHands Stay salty...
@@lastcall392 You have a Last Call and have already had to do brakes? I've had my 23 since last January and only have 7700 miles and brand new looking brakes...
As a ScatPack Challenger owner, if you bought a Scat for gas mileage you bought the wrong car.
I agree. Smiles Per Gallon Strikes Again...
Just bought one today got an hour commute 6 days a week and I could care less @lifeandThings said it best
I got 24.3 MPH in my scatpack on the highway
The styling is what distinguishes this car from the rest, it is timelessly beautiful, an A+.
100% agree. It's the only modern retro styled vehicle available, and that's why it's such a hit. That's why it's still selling like hot cakes after 15+ years of the same body with a minor refresh in 2015.
I am german, living in Spain and I just have a smile in my face everytime I uncover it in the garage for my weekly ride. No german car has done that so far.
Being a tall person (6' 5"), the Challenger is the only sporty car that offers a V8 and manual transmission that I fit comfortably in. That means it gets an "A" in all the categories for me.
I’m 6’7 and fit fine in Camaro’s
@DIRTYPETER1 , Im actually a GM guy and I tried both of those but did not fit comfortably in either. The issue was headroom in both.
The stock tires and brakes that come with the 1320 is amazing
These cars actually turn well around corners fast the fact that you had to barely turn the wheel to make your turn but gave it a D is because everyone says theyre not meant for turning... The hellcat at Nurburging can run a time of 7m 51sec thats faster than quite a few porsches, lamborghini, ferraris, amgs, Renaults ect... all cars that cost considerably more and overall pretty good for a car people say isnt meant for "real racing" and only going in straight lines.
That is an extremely impressive time, but it's worth considering how much this car compensated with it's 700+ hp on straights on the Nurburgring. It's not THAT bad in the corners, but a 4,300lb car that is this long (197"), isn't going to corner as well as a 3,000lb porsche that's much shorter. But it's WAY faster than most porsches. I have to be fair in these ratings, and it's hard to please everyone.
The air Intakes in the light work on the Shaker & TA Scatpacks. Hellcat Airbox Upgrade, also hellcat w ZF8 spds Auto are heavier 4400lb with supercharger front end weight. Best handling Challenger is the scat pack widebody with the TR60-60 6spd Manual, the big brake kit & lightest wheels.
I have a Widebody w/ manual, and concur... Mine handles well...
I have a T/A and I've drove with a few guys with Mustang's pushing it hard and I could keep up pretty easy around all the twisty bits. A wider sticky tire really helps these cars.
Add a Hell Cat airbox, remove headlight inserts, ram air, more power. Used for $75. Add a 185 temp thermostat and the plastic/ burning smell goes away, and car loves it. You won't feel as much heat at the fenders when you get out of car. $540 a month? What? I average 19 mpg and can get 30 mpg on highway with air conditioner off, 26 mpg highway with A/C on, I don't beat on it that much though. I haven't had any problems, and mine's a 2016. The ZF8 transmission is a great, durable transmission; I sell transmission parts for a living, so I see what transmissions to avoid.
if you can find one with the dynamics package they come stock with 6 piston fronts and 275s all the way around. The brakes also come standard on the widebody version if you prefer, I'm a narrow body guy.
Nice review, everything you said just on point!
Ty so much! New Z4 next, then the glorious V10 Audi S6.
The best video I have seen can you do a 2017 hellcat next you really deserve more subscribers and likes. Why hasn’t this went viral
I appreciate that a lot! I will try to get my hands on one!
Hey man excellent review … keep doing your thing
Ty!!
Have a21 sp1320 drove interstates from Indiana to Florida got avg 26 on the way down and avg 23 mpg on the way home. Comfortable the entire time plenty of power good sound and a thrill to drive. Tires brakes and oil changes are expensive but I still give it a solid B
I am researching but can’t find enough info. In 2023, should I take the R/T 5.7 or opt for the Scat Pack despite it being harder to mod?
As an owner of a 22 widebody I’d also give a D for price, I paid 55k and there even more now, and three years ago they were giving about 7k off these cars. I’d say there over priced by about 10k, just my opinion, but happy I have one for sure. Also for the exhaust I’d give a C , it sounds pretty good but a little reserved, I completely intended to keep my car 100% stock, but I have decided come spring time I’m going to remove the mid mufflers and add vibrants, I’ve looked into many different options and for me this is the one because it keeps the same exact sound but about 25% louder, and it will only run about $400 in total. It’s the best option in my opinion and I don’t want to sound like a tank coming down the street, so it’s just preference. Great video, thanks
NAHHHH HOMIE YOU GOT TO RUN THE CORSA TANK EXHAUST , ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GO 😅😅😅😅
If you’re ever in Naples/Bonita Springs/Fort Myers area in Florida hit me up! I always have great cars you can review, like my Ferrari 458 or Porsche GT4RS! Great video and review man, absolutely love your content!
If you're serious, I'd be willing to drive down and meet you! How would you like to get in touch?
How many times did it take u to get that 4.2 like 5 times with warming up tires ?
My 2016 came with the air intake lights and I put in a CAI. And i believe the exhaust sound is B.
This should be compared to the competition -- Mustang and Camero. It has a huge back seat and trunk compared to them. The front seat is built for large people too. I give it an A. If you need a larger back seat you should think about a 4 door Charger.
The air catcher lights are functional… you have to take out the plugs🙄. I hit 3.8 to sixty with just drag radials. Exhaust tips are real.probably the most comfortable car Ive been in. C is too low. Who cares about fuel economy? Its a nearly 500 hp muscle car, get a prius if your worried about fuel economy. Its the last of the true push rod v8 muscle cars and this time will most definitely never return so grab one why you can they are Fantastic!!!
Nice car. I have a green 2022. Really enjoyed your review and analysis. However, I don't know where you see 4 doors on this car. I will watch your reviews in the future for your presentational style. Happy Holidays.
That's awesome! How are you liking your car so far? And sorry I meant to say "4 seats", not "4 doors". I didn't catch that slip up. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
I like it a lot. Super fun to drive. Second Challenger I have driven off the showroom floor. First one was a 1973 green Challenger 340 4-speed, with the pistol grip shifter and a bunch of special ordered performance extras. That car was hard on gas, but premium was 28 cents a gallon. Therefore tires disappeared quickly too. But it was all worth it. Take care.
Your channel is underrated.
Hey, do you know if you can ever review the ScatPack 1320? I would like to know your thoughts on that. :)
I have actually never heard of the 1320! I'll start looking out for it and try to do a review of it :)
I have a 2020 rt scat wb supercharged challenger for about 4 months jury still out but acc with supercharger is A comfort is a B maintenance is c very expensive but no issues besides me changing pulley belt tensioner and belt exterior A everyone loves it
Did you harden the short block or is it stock?
Scats haven’t been 40k since 2020 unless this one has 40k + miles. Forgive me if I missed the part where you mentioned mileage
This one is at 43,000 miles, no worries lol. I always refer to used prices since new or relatively new is just a bad depreciating asset
Actually I'm about to close on a 21 scat with 4k miles on it!
Would pick this trim level if we're to have a challenger as 485 hp is plenty for me anyway.thats a 2 door car not a 4 door car like that doesn't need a big back seat like older Camaros and mustangs back seats not crazy big.
Brooo u have some bad ass camera angles !
Happy 2024!! And thank you man!
You said fake exhaust tips? What’s fake about it? Also the sound is subjective. I personally love the sound it’s loud enough when you get on it and nice when cruising no drone. And as far as comfort, the challenger is the most comfortable when compare to camaro and mustang.
He also said 4 door.....🤔
What multiverse are you from where this thing cost $40,000???????
Righttt
He meant used at 43000 miles
I'm about to close on a 21 scat with 4k miles on it with clean title with no accidents for 40k even
The leather is a must.....every vehicle I have owned has leather interior simply because it's easier to clean
Just went from my 19 challenger sxt to 23 challenger last call scat pack , this car is a monster to me 😂😂😂
If I could get a 23’ SP for $40k I’d buy a dozen of them. My 22’ Shaker 5.7 list was $52k
I’m actually a Scat daddy and I love my 2021 RT scat
Frostbite blue. The best color.
I think its a B. But I have the TA with 6 piston brembos, 275mm tires and hellcat headlight air intake all form factory. And it's also manual. It's a very fun car to drive.
@4:20 You said "The fuel cap gives the car a muscle-ly feeling." lol
I have one it's awesome
Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion but I think the Challenger exterior design is S tier easily. It's the most true to what a muscle car maybe should look like? And quite honestly a perfect evolution of it. I think the only thing that comes close is the 5th gen Camaros. And this coming from a mustang guy. So much so, I own two of the s550s. We're all so spoiled as all of these cars have gotten so good. I turn 42 as of the writing of this comment so it may be the boomer in me speaking.
Happy birthday! And I see where you're coming from! It is one of the last TRUE muscle car designs left.
I own a 22 Challenger RT manual, and although not a Scat Pack, I agree with much of what you said. However for the "fun to drive and listen to" category (obviously not one of the listed criteria), I give it an A+...50 grins per mile. There's NOTHING out there in this price category that blends old school raw power and bravado with modern tech and conveniences....it's like an old school muscle car with modern reliability and convenience. Before purchasing it brand new I had half a mind to buy an old Camaro or Mustang, but I realized I probably would have put the same amount of money into those cars only to get something of questionable reliability and safety (not to mention no practicality for daily use). This car, in my opinion, is in a league of it's own.
Ive been looking for a manual ,,hard to find
@@billhamilton7524 I now have both. I'd definitely recommend the manual if you can find one....much more fun to drive (as long as it's not a commuter)
Fair amount in scats but non in the RT
@@billhamilton7524 Interesting. There are quite a few RT manuals available in the Las Vegas area fyi, at least as of a week or two ago... and some in Utah.
@@wakeboarder9180 Problem is im a bit picky on color ,,the hunt continues Thanks bro
The challenger, no matter what trim, is paying homage to its heritage and that makes the entire thing an A+++++ in my books! As a tall person, 6ft 3in, I can sit in both the front and back seats comfortably. So the seating is an A for me. The sound system, oh how I love how dove has designed the sound system on this. I’ve driven Camaros and mustangs and their sound systems were pieces of shit in comparison to the challenger. So that’s another A. And the steering? I’ve gone around hairpin turns at 70 kms an hour without an issue at all so idk how you can say it doesn’t turn well. My buddy who owned a Camaro tried to keep up with me and his car was trying to put him off the road so he had to slow down.
5:06 Can you provide the source of this regulation?
The owner told me his 2018 scatpack sounded way better stock. So unless dodge intentionally made the sound worse, then it had to be from some sort of regulation.
I've heard nothing on this, sounds crazy to me, unless somebody slipped the resonators off at the dealership, there was upgrade to the active exhuast for RTs Only in 17 or 18, the Scats got the upgrades in 15 but the Charger widebodys from 18 on up where definitely louder.
@@tezalehall2818 Interesting... The owner said it was very noticeable for him, and I found some forums where people said their 2020+ scatpacks/hellcats just didn't sound as good, but it could be a coincidence of people who bought their scats/cats with no resonators. If you have experience with both years, then I trust you on that.
@@ProfessorDrives they did change the pcm or ecm tunes for emissions for the hellcats, that caused all sort of performance neutering, I thought like 21- 23 it did effect the output after the cars warmed up to operating temps.
Just played rocket league with this dude super chill
Lol!! This guy beat me too :(
Track mode is the only way to drive a Scatty
Do you prefer this over the Camaro?
I would say so yes. This car is CRAZY fun in straight lines. Also feels faster than the Camaro.
@@ProfessorDrivesWould you prefer over the mustang 10 speed ? I have driven both . I enjoy the torque of the scat in the city but the mustang is fierce on the highway with that top end.
@@Oliver-ft2fq Something about the 10 speed mustangs that make me LOVE them. I'd choose a 10 speed. BUT, this car is WAY more fun to launch.
No way dude This car is not like any euro car. It has a special purpose. It is safer on curves after you learn to drive it until it feels like a glove. I enjoy every part of my car and would not driver 1450 mph in any other car. its all about learning how to drive curves and do it right. - cornering is an A. it's not a BMW. you have to learn some unique skills but once you have spent time cornering at higher torque you begin to feel more confident than driving a BMW, it's not the same kind of driving. I have owned both. This car can run on 85 with knocks or 87 with no problems. I spend 55 dollars every 10 days on gas. Buy a Repo. Trade in your BMW. they are coming back into the banks now and will be $29999 and they are tanks and will last a lifetime if you get the stick and take care of it! you boys don't realize you're sitting on a car that can last 50 years no problem. It looks simple and maybe plain, but it will outlast those stupid euro trash forced induction plastic pipe competitors. Last think here is the math: buy a repo with 55k for 30K price - get 10k on your paid off trade in and boom - 20K loan and go 72 months- I pay $370 month. We can be free. Think smart and don't speed unless no one is looking.
I think ima hurry and get one before it’s too late because it’s cheap asf rn
Fun car for sure just not realistic for me to daily drive . That’s why i have a beater.
I was with him until he got to the sound part. A bone stock Scatpack is the best sounding exhaust you can get from the factory. I own a C7 with npp and it's not even close to sounding as good as a scat.
Hemis have zero character
@@Dulanor You clearly don't have real world experience with these engines to say that.
LMAO! Tape on the speedometer! Just say you were in Mexico then you are covered. 😁
Insane is a strong word for a 14 year old platform in a car that weighs as much as a minivan.
40k ??? I paid 62 for mines 🤦🏽♂️
Yes for 40… no in the 50s and higher like they cost now, which is absolutely absurd. I would not buy a scat pack anywhere near 50,000
It’s a muscle car, all of the mid to lower ratings listed is inherent of owning a muscle car. You can’t compare apples and oranges.
What about insurance. Must be expensive.
And this is a basic scat mine is leather and suede
You know some brogie has ragged that thing out.
Your not in a 4 door car dude.
Those exhaust tips are not fake, take a look under the car
I did, and you can see the real exhaust inside of the fake tips
Okay but they're both connected
@@ProfessorDrivesthat's what exhaust tips are... tips lmfao. When people say "fake exhaust tips," they mean that they aren't connected to the rest of the exhaust system. The exhaust gasses expel somewhere else.
Exactly, if there's exhaust coming out of them they're exhaust tips.
2 door car buddy not 4
Dude this is not a 4 door car
My friend yes. That was a mistake.
I meant to say 4 seats. Not 4 doors.
@@ProfessorDrivesit has 5 seats lol
@@prod.tgunzy8062 That thing in the middle doesn't look comfortable. But you're right, there's a seatbelt for that lol.
Yea 2 door muscle car back seats are not roomy at all
I wouldn’t buy one with 20k or more miles. People beat the shit out of them. Then get rid of them. And if u do cold air intake you open those headlight vents and the air funnels into the air box.
That's a really good point. I wonder if there's an OBD thing that can read how many times a car has been redlined. If I ever buy another sports car, I 100% would want to know that.
It may not tell you but you can be sure it tells Dodge every dam thing@@ProfessorDrives
40k for someone to come steal it off me in a heartbeat… no thanks
Lol!
$39,999 my azz
It's true!
@MM293 yeah ok, funny I've been shopping for 60 days, haven't seen ONE Scat for $40k
@@Kevin_Craig I actually am going to close on one at 40k even with only 4k miles on it
@MM293 oh so now we're talking about used? I don't care what you claim, I know firsthand you're not getting a new 2023 Scat for $40k. Even the dealers in Florida and Texas that advertise those BS prices are full of chit ! ... nice click bait title, you must work at one of those douchebag dealers
@@MM293 PROVE IT! Let's see your invoice
nothing is fake with exhaust Bro
You can see the fake tips, it's very clear.
@@ProfessorDrivesI'm not OP but nope, the exhaust gasses exit both sides, so nothing fake about it... How could you not see it?
He thinks because they're welded onto the pipes that makes it fake. 😅
Scat pack is whats up 😂😂😂
Sadly this is the end 😢 prove me wrong
I know :(. That has to be a terrible decision by Dodge
I have a 2023 wb scat, 10,000 miles and And already have issues, serious problems misfire’s in cylinder 5and seven brought it in and they said bad injectors fixed it and took it out today and have bad hesitation brah wtf about to stop making payments on the car they can have the shit back! Dodge is garbage.
I rank this video as a : C
Fake exhaust tips? What are you talking about?? The scat has a functional dual, active exhaust...
.......Fourth comment about the exhaust being not fake .... Its fake a real exhaust has tips not pipes resting in plastic/chrome shrouding
@@Dulanor What are you talking about? I have a Scat pack and there are NO fake tips. There are no plastic housings. Challengers come from the factory with shorty headers and an x pipe. Exhaust come out of both sides. Do you even have one of these cars? It's amazing how many "experts" don't even own these cars...
Sounds like a 1/24 scale Revell model 😅