Internal Splines (and Hexes Too)

2022 ж. 17 Қар.
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This is probably the most complicated part I've machined. A friend asked if I could make a shaft coupler that had an internal hex on one end, and an internal involute spline on the other. Since I have a metal shaper, I said I should be able to do that... Of course, I used every other machine in the shop in the process. I ended up cutting the spline on the shaper, but made a broach for the hex end, following the method shown by Clickspring in this video: • Spare Parts #13 - Maki...
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  • A couple things keep coming up in the comments, so I figured I would address them here: In getting ready for this, I was able to find the pats diagram for the pump, it shows a one-piece, rigid coupler attached to the shaft. In fact, the shaft and coupler are listed as one part number. It’s not a lovejoy or other sort of flexible coupler. And yes, the fit on the spline as shown is probably a little tighter than it should be, but after several rounds of assembly and disassembly, the fit did loosen up a bit. I’m assuming there are some small burrs in there that got knocked down. If I had to do it over again, I probably would make take another .001 off. Additionally, the hex shaft is about .003” under the nominal dimension, and I made the broach to the nominal dimension, so there’s some wiggle on the connection on the hex end, so I’m not particularly worried about misalignment or vibration issues. Also, a flexible coupler probably wouldn’t have fit in the pump housing. The other two things that come up are 1) why not modify the shafts, and 2) why buy something to make it work. The answer is: because Jeremy Makes Things. I wanted to see if I could do this, and do it as close to the right way as possible. I knew the theory behind doing an internal spline, but theory and practice are two different things. I wanted to push my skills. As happy as I am with the end result, this project was just as much about going through the process.

    @JeremyMakesThings@JeremyMakesThings Жыл бұрын
    • You're doing an awesome job here, I hope you don't feel the need to justify all your decisions to any naysayers out there. Great to see you pushing your skills. Just keep on keeping on, you're doing all the right things 👍

      @CraigsWorkshop@CraigsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
    • G'day from West Australia🙂 As a 3rd gen engineer with 40yrs of trade life. Well done buddy well done indeed.🙂👍👍

      @steveveness3829@steveveness3829 Жыл бұрын
    • Well said. Thank you for a great video, I learned a few things. Awesome.

      @aerialrescuesolutions3277@aerialrescuesolutions3277 Жыл бұрын
    • Jeremy makes things, not Jeremy buys things.

      @rickpalechuk4411@rickpalechuk4411 Жыл бұрын
    • How much did you charge

      @Blue.star1@Blue.star1 Жыл бұрын
  • I just love when somebody else volunteers your services

    @fishydubsfishing6516@fishydubsfishing65162 ай бұрын
  • Nice to see a machinist who is more about the work and less about the image and vanity. Great to see real old school tools being loved and worked. Subscribed on first go.

    @temmellese6730@temmellese67304 ай бұрын
  • I love your "toolception". Making a tool, to make a tool, to make a part to fix a machine.

    @MarionMakarewicz@MarionMakarewicz Жыл бұрын
  • You know you achieved complete machining self-reliance when “That’s probably not the last one of those I’m making” Is followed by making a goddamn broach. And to prove it, just make another one! Awesome job!

    @cav89-@cav89-7 ай бұрын
  • This was great to watch, I’m a retired automotive engineer and have always been fascinated by one off projects like this. Bravo!

    @munter10@munter105 күн бұрын
  • We had a spline shaft come in pieces, to the shop. I made a series of kerfs, carbonized it, and heat treated. Made a short broach to clean up the spline. Used a dividing head for the shaft. I think you should always knurl, as slow as it goes. Too often, the knurling wheels, weld on to the pins. Can't keep enough oil on them, knurling can produce a lot of heat.

    @everettplummer9725@everettplummer9725Ай бұрын
  • Jeremy, Thank you for sharing your (mostly) entire thought process plus the "oopses" that you ran into instead of doing like most channels that "hide" their mistakes and other things that don't go correctly. Seeing how another home shop Machinist goes about a job with similar (actually better! ;) equipment and raw materials is very helpful as well as giving an idea of that "aw sh**s" to expect is worth its weight in KZhead gold!

    @bobvines00@bobvines00 Жыл бұрын
    • That was my favorite part too. A lot of machinists channels will show a failed part, describe what happened and a quick shot when they chuck it back into stock. I like that here he shows exactly why it messed up and even keep going until it’s beyond repair, exactly what I would do 😂. None of that perfect machinist crap, just what will get the job done is encouraging for a hobbyist like me.

      @Johnny-uy4iu@Johnny-uy4iu Жыл бұрын
  • I was really impressed not just by your skills, but your camera work, narration & the inclusion of issues in this difficult project. I believe this demonstrates your high intelligence & educational ability. Any student would be lucky to have you as an instructor. 👍

    @CarbonBadger@CarbonBadger Жыл бұрын
    • I totally agree!

      @konradbob7660@konradbob76607 ай бұрын
  • Thank you! As an old fellow who's been around and seen a few things . . . I learned a few things and was entertained in the process! Thanks again. You have a new subscriber.

    @rustylugnut755@rustylugnut75511 ай бұрын
  • Meine Hochachtung für diese gute Arbeit.

    @johann-pauluspaul222@johann-pauluspaul222 Жыл бұрын
  • I have a machine that requires a splined receiver/coupling for a splined metric shaft. I can't believe how hard it has been to find one. You've made it look like child's play.. Great job!

    @suburbanagrarianproject9003@suburbanagrarianproject90033 ай бұрын
  • Impressed with you making your own broaches, had never thought about that before. Definitely subscribing to see what else you build in the future. Great stuff!

    @TheTsunamijuan@TheTsunamijuan Жыл бұрын
  • Your skill at machining is amazing. You put all of the effort in your projects and they surely pay off! I still can't believe you just have 8k subscribers

    @arthurspader5423@arthurspader5423 Жыл бұрын
    • 8001 now

      @gw10758@gw10758 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm pretty impressed by the homemade square broach! Well done...!

    @yanisgerber4758@yanisgerber475811 ай бұрын
  • Congratulations Jeremy, your persistence and make-do attitude are always inspiring and the end result is a complete success!

    @mumblbeebee6546@mumblbeebee6546 Жыл бұрын
  • I dread to think of the number of hours you put into this, but the results are very pleasing! I think a machinists jack might have been useful under the end of the workpiece on the shaper, it did seem to be deflecting a little.

    @ferrumignis@ferrumignis Жыл бұрын
    • @@tg5509 Where are your videos of you machining internal splines? Surely a real "expert"like yourself would want to show how it's done properly?

      @ferrumignis@ferrumignis4 ай бұрын
  • That was awesome. I admire your patience and commitment to this project.

    @nefariousyawn@nefariousyawn Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for your authenticity in sharing this project! I so admire your abilities to adapt and overcome issues.

    @AdamBereki@AdamBereki Жыл бұрын
  • So cool to see this and the video of Andy’s Machines doing it similarly but vertically with that internal cutter he made. Great video! As always 😊

    @lumotroph@lumotroph Жыл бұрын
  • Great result, well done. Thanks for sharing and explaining the process. I have watched a lot of Rustinox videos. He explains things well and add a lot of humor. I find those shapers fascinating. I'm hoping that one will come up at a good price one day...

    @thehobbymachinistnz@thehobbymachinistnz Жыл бұрын
  • You and Rustinox sure make a good case for the shaper. I definitely want one now. Thanks Ron

    @ronmurphy9819@ronmurphy9819 Жыл бұрын
  • That's a freaking amount of time and effort you put into the project, thank you for the video. Subscribed.

    @trendymusicstayaway@trendymusicstayaway Жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video of making parts that match through trial and success. I especially liked watching the test runs before taking on the final piece.

    @duanehylton8074@duanehylton807424 күн бұрын
  • Jeremy, a while back I had a similar problem with a splined shaft from a Volvo Penta transfer shaft. In my case, splines were worn due to hard shifting and the metal not being hard enough. So, I simply converted the splined shaft to a hexagon and that made the process much easier, not to mention harder to wear down. Great job. A pleasure to watch as always. Gilles

    @LetsRogerThat@LetsRogerThat Жыл бұрын
  • Nice job! I recently did a simple keyway broach, and then used what I learned doing that to make a backface borer. Seeing the same idea used to make custom spline shafts is really cool.

    @matus1976@matus197611 ай бұрын
  • Very nice job. Hours of love went into that project.

    @pyromedichd1@pyromedichd1 Жыл бұрын
  • I loved reading your whiteboard. Always subtle. Thanks for sharing

    @DangerousSportsForSeniors@DangerousSportsForSeniors Жыл бұрын
  • Great job! So fun to watch. This is really splendid workmanship! 🙌

    @nonyb6365@nonyb6365 Жыл бұрын
  • Great stuff, I appreciate the subtle humor as well.

    @jonludwig8233@jonludwig8233 Жыл бұрын
  • Very impressive spline work!

    @brandontscheschlog@brandontscheschlog Жыл бұрын
  • A mighty fine effort, Jeremy. As you point out there is a world of difference between theory and practice. You mastered both!

    @johntenhave1@johntenhave1 Жыл бұрын
  • I love hearing the thoughts and mindset of kindred spirits. My first video of yours, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Nice calming voice, and the patience of a cat. 👍🇿🇦

    @gregoryburne5251@gregoryburne5251 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent job on this. I hope you keep making videos.

    @Joe.O_623@Joe.O_623 Жыл бұрын
  • You did a great job at making this look crazy simple. Incredible job! Great work! Thanks for sharing..

    @larryb4122@larryb4122 Жыл бұрын
  • I think I found my favourite machining channel. Awesome how you share your process: like this might be a failure but here's how well find out or run it out. Excellent vid

    @Waynerking@Waynerking10 ай бұрын
  • You've got some great skills and tools to put them to use - colour me very impressed! I really enjoyed that video

    @sharkbaitsurfer@sharkbaitsurfer10 ай бұрын
  • I can watch your machines all day. Awesome videos guys.

    @ronbecker2514@ronbecker2514 Жыл бұрын
  • One tip, always use cutting oil when threading whether taping, using a thread die or single point threading and when broaching.

    @phillhuddleston9445@phillhuddleston94453 ай бұрын
  • That was awesome to watch, you're a really skilled machinist.

    @theasiamtmgroup@theasiamtmgroup3 ай бұрын
  • Hi Jeremy, That was a really Tough Project, but you got it done. Hats off to you. After I get a new Lathe, a Shaper is going to be the Next Machine on my List. Great Job.👍

    @joeybobbie1@joeybobbie1 Жыл бұрын
  • That was a lot of effort and expertise. I'm blown away.

    @noe616@noe616 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for continuing to post great content.

    @christopherbill8537@christopherbill8537 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent work! Very interesting and much enjoyed! Thanks for sharing.

    @DK-vx1zc@DK-vx1zc Жыл бұрын
  • Liked that the build had a meaningful purpose. Great video

    @officemanager1241@officemanager1241 Жыл бұрын
  • Very nice project. You did an outstanding job. Thanks for sharing. Take care, EM.

    @edsmachine93@edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын
  • Always inspiring to see someone engage brain and not give in... My projects are no where near the complexity of this one, but after watching this, I now know not to give in!

    @brunosmith6925@brunosmith6925 Жыл бұрын
  • fantastic work, well done

    @richards6452@richards6452 Жыл бұрын
  • i like your sense of humor.. Seeing that i am not the only one, whose stuff flying around and never got found again , and also things just go wrong, get me a feeling, Not to be alone in a world, where people got hated by things.

    @horsthacker9990@horsthacker9990 Жыл бұрын
  • Your skills have elevated you above the realm of mortals. Well done Sir.

    @1981lowrider@1981lowrider Жыл бұрын
  • Holy damn! This is really high quality content. Thanks for taking your time to show us.

    @pgproductions4432@pgproductions4432 Жыл бұрын
  • Think the world forgot about good tool die maker. Everything that works mechanically has a good tool maker behind it. Thanks

    @MrBlackbutang@MrBlackbutang Жыл бұрын
  • I work in an old school machine shop. Never made a broach, so I appreciate your efforts.

    @henrytupper6959@henrytupper69599 ай бұрын
  • That part came out awesome Jeremy👍 I know for certain I couldn’t build that coupler….especially dealing with splines. You did a really good job there….something to be proud of🙂

    @davidsnyder2000@davidsnyder2000 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing job Jeremy.

    @RB-yq7qv@RB-yq7qv Жыл бұрын
  • 2:16 when you do a bunch of passes in fast forward, then show one pass in real time, my brain instantly goes “This is either the finishing pass, or the *disaster strikes* pass.” 😂 Also, love the to do list on the white board!

    @Vikingwerk@Vikingwerk Жыл бұрын
  • Спасибо что помогаете людям своим трудом механической обработки метала.

    @lolcec81@lolcec81 Жыл бұрын
  • Impressive work and patience!!!

    @MarcoChristensen@MarcoChristensen Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing this with us.

    @briankissel7661@briankissel7661 Жыл бұрын
  • Loved it. Yours is one of the most refreshing and honest machining channels out there. Love the seat-of-the-pants engineering, and the excellent result at the end. I would find making those parts way too intimidating, and put it off for years, so hats off to you for getting on with it. Keep on keeping on 👍

    @CraigsWorkshop@CraigsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
  • Really enjoyed the content, Jeremy. Good job!

    @compilecodebug6430@compilecodebug6430 Жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic work, very entertaining to watch.

    @MartinHubbard1@MartinHubbard1 Жыл бұрын
  • Well done Jeremy the end result is top notch.

    @muddlersworkshop@muddlersworkshop Жыл бұрын
  • This is inspiring! Thank you for sharing!

    @joachimfischer8604@joachimfischer8604 Жыл бұрын
  • 10 out of 10 for persistence! Very impressive.👍

    @fredfarnackle5455@fredfarnackle5455 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent real craftsmanship!!!! Awsome!!!

    @janbastein7355@janbastein73556 ай бұрын
  • Loved it and it was kind of pleasing to see that I am not the only one to make mistakes.

    @clivehaynes2183@clivehaynes2183 Жыл бұрын
  • Sometimes the Recommended knows exactly what I’m in the mood to watch. This was very engaging, thank you. Subbed.

    @merc7105@merc7105 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing. Great work !

    @bulletproofpepper2@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
  • Nice work

    @kaerlkolderman3176@kaerlkolderman31769 ай бұрын
  • Remember, "Persistence is the bitter part of valor."

    @DavidKutzler@DavidKutzler Жыл бұрын
    • Flash back to age of empires 2…

      @ddogthepimp@ddogthepimp Жыл бұрын
  • You did a great job on that project

    @theantichrist6524@theantichrist65247 ай бұрын
  • Really impressive work.

    @strykerjones8842@strykerjones884213 күн бұрын
  • You the man, nice work! Keep em comin! Enjoyed watching!

    @jdmccorful@jdmccorful Жыл бұрын
  • Well done Jeremy!

    @Julian.Heinrich@Julian.Heinrich Жыл бұрын
  • That was a tough one....but you pulled it off...congrats, great job.

    @mftmachining@mftmachining Жыл бұрын
  • Well done!

    @landlockedviking@landlockedviking9 ай бұрын
  • You made a square broach and then used said broach without cutting oil, absolute rockstar!

    @idkmachining6892@idkmachining6892 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work man, I’m hobby machinist too but I could not have pulled that off, kudos to you.

    @LordOfTamarac@LordOfTamarac Жыл бұрын
  • That was fun, thanks for sharing this.

    @justavian@justavian Жыл бұрын
  • Great job, I have always wanted to grab a shaper but am 100% out of room right now.

    @matthewheaton4421@matthewheaton4421 Жыл бұрын
  • Well done, all the skills

    @myradavis2599@myradavis2599 Жыл бұрын
  • That was very interesting and a very good job. I'm impressed!

    @tompas11A3n52KkX@tompas11A3n52KkX Жыл бұрын
  • Nice job! People don't realize the obstacles you have to overcome in building, what seems to be, such a simple part.

    @staceyporter6095@staceyporter6095 Жыл бұрын
  • I have worked on alot of these submerged pumps and you've done a GREAT JOB making them fit together . The different companies intentionally made their connecting shafts different just so the average person couldn't connect them together they want everyone to buy a new pump and motor together but if you had the other two half's you could have just changed out the shaft witch is possible in some pump's or cut the shaft short turned down the end and pin or weld on the right shaft connecting head. But AWESOME JOB !!!

    @pink_love_cat4928@pink_love_cat4928 Жыл бұрын
  • Netflix: Are you still watchin? Someone Daughter: 22:03

    @MrsRollerTwister@MrsRollerTwister10 ай бұрын
  • Your knowledge is very good.

    @aegalaxys3@aegalaxys36 ай бұрын
  • Excellent piece. I can almost feel the sinking feeling you get when you've put a ton of effort into something and it's not perfect. Seven attempts at a fit was well worth it. The only thing I'd have done different after all that work is to paint it bright orange and put LED lights around it!

    @passenger6735@passenger6735 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for helping man. I live nearby. Crazy I stumbled onto your video. Very cool

    @nicholascampo6010@nicholascampo60105 ай бұрын
  • excellent work. thanks for sharing

    @nadam35@nadam35 Жыл бұрын
  • Well as an amateur, I found this video absolutely fascinating. Thanks very much.

    @oldmanonabike233@oldmanonabike233 Жыл бұрын
  • Good job friend. Really good thorough work.

    @Micscience@Micscience Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video! Well done

    @dangib4354@dangib43542 ай бұрын
  • That was amazing!

    @LegoBeto@LegoBeto Жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting, like the broach making process, also small indexing head.

    @patrickbrown7491@patrickbrown7491 Жыл бұрын
  • That was a very cool Project thank you for sharing

    @pdj26@pdj26 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant! Thanks for sharing 👍 🇬🇧

    @TheRecreationalMachinist@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
  • Nice job, and certainly an exercise in patience for you! sometimes the simplest looking part is quite complex to actually get made!

    @jackdawg4579@jackdawg4579 Жыл бұрын
  • Very good job !!! ...It is good to see someone that can do something with out a ""CNC"" and a stack of lap tops

    @kensnyder9372@kensnyder9372 Жыл бұрын
  • You crazy son of a B, you did it!

    @FullSendPrecision@FullSendPrecision Жыл бұрын
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