What do golf balls and pistons have in common?

2024 ж. 18 Нау.
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New piston design increases fuel mileage power and torque. Decreases oil change interval, noise, and soot. Speed of air pistons. monsterengines.com/ to get you some

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  • Need to see 2 engines with the same build except the pistons, instrumented and tested on a calibrated engine test rig on the same fuel at the same time. - Specific fuel consumption (g per kwh) - instrumented pistons for temp - exhaust gas analysis.

    @Kate_Short-For-Bob@Kate_Short-For-Bob2 ай бұрын
    • No two engines are identical. We've built quite a few identical spec engines and optimized them on the engine Dyno and found 2% difference on 500 HP. Honing finish and technique, ring types, etc. many factors involved.

      @hotrodray6802@hotrodray68022 ай бұрын
    • And don't tell the guy who's doing all the tests which one has the magic pistons.

      @e-curb@e-curb2 ай бұрын
    • @@hotrodray6802when they are claiming 20% improvements it should be easy to see even if the engines are out a few % from each other.

      @JackS425@JackS4252 ай бұрын
    • @@hotrodray6802 If they alternate/swap the pistons on the two engines over multiple tests then it should be rather easy to calculate the error.

      @resignator@resignatorАй бұрын
    • You wouldn't notice a difference between the 2! Like engine additives, this a buy me trick. Too many factors involved as well

      @slopoke22@slopoke22Ай бұрын
  • I can't wait for Gale Banks to get a hold of a set!

    @208flatbedOO@208flatbedOO2 ай бұрын
    • My thought exactly.

      @davidsawyer1599@davidsawyer15992 ай бұрын
    • Same. You know he will put every single instrument in his shop to use to check the claims. With proof of yes or ya no.

      @JustinEdinborough@JustinEdinborough2 ай бұрын
    • You don’t think Gale will dismiss it because it wasn’t his idea?

      @seandurgin@seandurgin2 ай бұрын
    • ​@seandurgin I truly believe that if it does what is says. He will back it and tell us the truth. Just like he does when he test everyone's intake. Shows the data that they are all bull. Shows the data why they are bull..

      @JustinEdinborough@JustinEdinborough2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@seandurginnope , he has backed products that werent his

      @MikeSmith-nu9wt@MikeSmith-nu9wt2 ай бұрын
  • Would like to see lifespan results. Teardown analysis at 60k, 100k, 150k, etc

    @user-er8kb9th3p@user-er8kb9th3p2 ай бұрын
    • Exactly it does have more surface area though id think longerrrr no??? This is a good one

      @bryanpadilla2879@bryanpadilla2879Ай бұрын
    • Well, if it’s a coating, then you could have stress and cracks and all sorts of things happening over time. The tear down I was thinking of includes not only the piston tops, but the rings the cylinder walls, the various bearing surfaces, valves, everything. It’s pretty safe to say, if one change in an engine, It will cause changes elsewhere

      @user-er8kb9th3p@user-er8kb9th3pАй бұрын
    • Good point, ceramic is tough as nails when it comes to heat but can also be brittle on impact. My thought is, what if I creep into detonation territory and get a very slight ping, does that piston top shatter? What about full on detonation? I've had a motor detonate and shatter the front and rear-center plugs in a v6 Gas engine and the engine still runs and drives fine but isn't as smooth at idle. The detonation wasn't that bad internally, no boost, lower RPM, when it happened. Was something with the coil pack or plug dropping out at around 90% throttle pulling from a dead stop. The takeaway is the fact it shattered the plugs and even cracked others around the center plugs, the ceramic on the plugs.

      @DavidMiOo@DavidMiOoАй бұрын
    • You'll do that, yourself.😅

      @Bill-sp8kb@Bill-sp8kb13 күн бұрын
  • The fact that they are willing to go to a shop with the equipment in it shows they aren't trying to hide. Would definitely be interesting to see a unbiased review from this shop

    @jonsaircond8520@jonsaircond85202 ай бұрын
  • Automotive engineer here, Absolutely Amazing! There is so much potential in the combustion engines.

    @Florin_Bolocan@Florin_Bolocan2 ай бұрын
    • Stop with the shit designs on compact vehicles thank you

      @david600R@david600R2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@david600Ri can't believe anybody would admit that shit amoungst all these mechanics on here , liable to get lynched 😂😂😂

      @MikeSmith-nu9wt@MikeSmith-nu9wt2 ай бұрын
    • @@MikeSmith-nu9wt😂. Don’t blame the engineers man they can engineer a near perfect vehicle if they wanted. But when an engineer submits his designs or ideas they get the money people up top telling them to make it cheaper. It’s not the engineers that’s just silly to think that. They could make a vehicle last 40 years no problem but it would cost us $200,000 for a little car

      @servicedogojokeguys2967@servicedogojokeguys29672 ай бұрын
    • Agreed, if only you could figure out how to capture all that wasted heat energy, and figure out the mechanical forces wanting to rip the ice engine to pieces. If only there was a technology that could get >90% efficiency

      @rykdheiner@rykdheiner2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@servicedogojokeguys2967it would probably cost the same, but they would have to spend more for manufacturing and couldn't mark the price up as much anymore. Car manufacturing costs are a fraction of their sale price.

      @wezerd@wezerd2 ай бұрын
  • This has quickly become one of my favorite KZhead channels. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Please keep the videos coming as ive watched every single one on your channel so far, and it's boring on this app until I see "Daves Auto Center uploaded a new video to their channel". Haha keep em coming !!! God Bless.

    @damiensingh4950@damiensingh49502 ай бұрын
    • Thanks, will do!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
    • Completely agree. Keep them coming.

      @JustinEdinborough@JustinEdinborough2 ай бұрын
    • Same!! I hope they never change!

      @BassBucksOutdoors@BassBucksOutdoors2 ай бұрын
    • couldnt agree more! found them about a month ago and is now my favorite youtube channel!

      @tylerwilliams3868@tylerwilliams38682 ай бұрын
    • SAME! I’m not even a mechanic

      @ryanm513@ryanm5132 ай бұрын
  • "Without testing and science it's only speculation" -Dave ....best quote ever!....

    @davkilldav211@davkilldav2112 ай бұрын
    • Do you not pay attention?? It's been tested and researched. Science is just a word you use to sound smart because you lack attention span ...

      @TurboGTO288@TurboGTO288Ай бұрын
    • @@TurboGTO288 I give too much attention, which is why I was quoting the video. I don't have the time or interest to back and forth with a troll. Don't you have better things to do with your life?

      @davkilldav211@davkilldav211Ай бұрын
  • As a mechanic here, this sounds like Magical Pistons. I'd love to see some Dave tests on these Pistons!

    @badministrator5@badministrator52 ай бұрын
    • Maybe the dimples create some kind of cushion in the combustion process or it could reduce the friction between the piston and moving flame front. Either way the same technology improved golf ball travel through the air!

      @garybulwinkle82@garybulwinkle822 ай бұрын
    • @@garybulwinkle82 nope it's Voodoo Actually the ceramic coating You can do yourself And someone said putting dimples in the top of pistons has been around a while. And total seal rings have been going on three decade ; maybe longer...there is one more thing drill and tap oil Jets to spay up inside tops of the pistons to cool them Even more

      @donniebaker5984@donniebaker5984Ай бұрын
    • You are very correct to want to see some research and testing. This link from speed of air may be helpful. Thanks for watching! www.speedofair.com/r-d

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCentervilleАй бұрын
    • I think squirter were factory install on early 911`s ​@@donniebaker5984

      @barfy4751@barfy4751Ай бұрын
    • I agree 100%i dont believe it until I see it

      @lukez1729@lukez1729Ай бұрын
  • Can’t wait for you to do a video on a build or rebuild using that style of piston. Very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing Dave. Take care and stay safe.

    @gregwhite7957@gregwhite79572 ай бұрын
    • Me too

      @deshaun5419@deshaun54192 ай бұрын
    • That's what I thought this video was gonna be. Not just him being paid to advertise for that company with a vid😅

      @jay_tarantula899@jay_tarantula899Ай бұрын
    • First thing I thought when I heard the truck pull in.

      @IDv8I@IDv8IАй бұрын
  • I really Hope Gale Banks gets a hold of these guys and makes a video on this tech

    @BadAssEngineering@BadAssEngineering2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah me too. So he can expose this absurd snake oil BS

      @hank1556@hank15562 ай бұрын
    • I think Gale already has these pistons in the duramax engines he builds for the JLTV military vehicles!

      @genechoate5020@genechoate50202 ай бұрын
    • ​@@genechoate5020 wouldn't doubt it. He has done so much engineering and lab work over the decades he'd be the one to talk to

      @jblob5764@jblob57642 ай бұрын
    • @@genechoate5020 we want data!

      @jksjrgfpsjgr@jksjrgfpsjgr2 ай бұрын
    • Yes UEM GALE BANKS MAN THEY WOULD MAKE SOME KILLER STUFF

      @johnnytiboni6745@johnnytiboni6745Ай бұрын
  • In my 19 years of automotive powertrain testing experience, this appears to be a good product idea but is giving me a little too good to be true vibe and another "re-inventing of the wheel". I'm not opposed to seeing more on this but I find it hard to believe timing events haven't been changed as well as the amount of injections per cycle since both of these things have a huge effect on diesels combustion noise. As good as it is being sold, it makes you wonder why this concept hasnt been being utilized by cummins.

    @PeeterPuncher@PeeterPuncher2 ай бұрын
    • 20% fuel mileage is huge, hard to believe an OEM hasn’t done this

      @stephenbrown3760@stephenbrown37602 ай бұрын
    • @@stephenbrown3760 According to the numbers this guy is citing: just shy of a 26% mileage increase... 25.95%.

      @Longbowgun@Longbowgun2 ай бұрын
    • This is just like the magic carburetor in the 70s that would get you 50 mpg on a big block that the oil companies kept hidden....

      @PsRohrbaugh@PsRohrbaugh2 ай бұрын
    • Buy a set and build a motor. Post the results as you put miles on it, make a good series.

      @alfredocarpaneto5976@alfredocarpaneto59762 ай бұрын
    • @@stephenbrown3760 I thought the same then realized that manufacturers want to spend as little possible to make a product. I know GM changed piston design on the 3.0 Duramax and the newest version is producing a lot more torque and HP.

      @alfredocarpaneto5976@alfredocarpaneto59762 ай бұрын
  • Noise... flat surfaces reflect waves. Curves too, depending on frequency. Break that geometry, and resonance is attenuated.

    @flinch622@flinch6222 ай бұрын
  • Dont forget this guy has a product to sell, lets see long duration in production testing

    @haralamc@haralamc2 ай бұрын
    • Better in every single way with no drawbacks and yet no manufacturers employ it? 🤔

      @Sam-go3mb@Sam-go3mbАй бұрын
  • It's amazing that a piston and rings can make that much of a difference.

    @madog1@madog12 ай бұрын
    • Evolution of IC motors using advantages of physics ... Modern computer modeling is taking IC motors to new levels.

      @100pyatt@100pyatt2 ай бұрын
    • @@100pyatt I was thinking computer modeling was involved, thanks.

      @madog1@madog12 ай бұрын
    • It's BS.

      @OtisFlint@OtisFlint2 ай бұрын
    • @@OtisFlintWhat evidence do you have to support that?

      @DonziGT230@DonziGT2302 ай бұрын
    • ​@@OtisFlinthave you tested it? Wheres your lab id love to come check it out

      @jblob5764@jblob57642 ай бұрын
  • As a physicist, 13 to 16 mpg seems unreasonable. In the end, efficiency is physics and the only way you increase efficiency of the diesel cycle is by increasing compression ratio, increasing temp, and decreasing the temp sink. Their pistons might provide a higher compression ratio. The ceramic top might reduce heat loss (higher temp), and the heat sink (atmosphere) is going to be the same. I’m not sure you can get 20% more efficiency from these changes, and then add in environmental emissions considerations, and that makes me more skeptical. Maybe, but this definitely falls into the “show me” category.

    @hu5116@hu51162 ай бұрын
    • I agree with you. I’m not a physicist, but I do understand with diesels the leaner you run, the hotter the burn and more NOx is produced.

      @hoonaticbloggs5402@hoonaticbloggs5402Ай бұрын
    • Yeah and of the new piston is increasing compression that's definitely not some technological breakthrough.

      @adambauman8044@adambauman8044Ай бұрын
    • ​@@hoonaticbloggs5402You mean gas motors

      @elijahcavin2408@elijahcavin2408Ай бұрын
    • I happen to think this is total snake oil. Embarrassingly so, much like engines that run on water.

      @sungear@sungearАй бұрын
    • ​@sungear Agree on the snake oil....though engines run on water vapor, via steam isn't.

      @luke8210@luke8210Ай бұрын
  • This channel is the definition of KZhead ,every single video he posts are things that I really want to watch , what a time to be alive.

    @alejandromontoya7520@alejandromontoya75202 ай бұрын
  • Amazing how much innovation that still continues to happen on combustion engines.

    @pawdre5151@pawdre51512 ай бұрын
    • Great point!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
    • @@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Great idea but what will happen when government wants all EV's by 2035 or so. All this great technology will be thrown away. I hope I'm totally wrong. I would not want that at all. Nothing beats the sound of a V8. I own a 67 Firebird with a 455CID, I told my brother if this engine ever needs rebuilding it's coming to you. Great Job to you and your team. It's obvious not only you know your trade but your also passing it down to the next generation of mechanics and builders.

      @oilman1758@oilman17582 ай бұрын
    • nobody's taking your gas engines. lose the tin foil buddy@@oilman1758

      @3ZN357@3ZN3572 ай бұрын
    • ​@oilman1758 the government is going to find out that you can't legislate a market change. That's what's gonna happen. Electric vehicles suck. And they still will in 10 years.

      @cavalieroutdoors6036@cavalieroutdoors60362 ай бұрын
    • ​@@oilman1758that's wildly unrealistic and even they know it. The power grid can't even handle existing loads as it is. Charging ONE ev once takes as much power as the power consumption of several households. So youre talking multiplying the national power supply several times over to make that realistic

      @jblob5764@jblob57642 ай бұрын
  • I got out of car and truck work 24 years ago as a 4X ASE master with L1 and L2, and this is unimaginable stuff. Kudos to the development team.

    @arthouston7361@arthouston73612 ай бұрын
    • I am there with you ! And interesting stuff ! I am also Certified Level II Fire Technician with the california Fire Chiefs !

      @stephenpoe2037@stephenpoe20372 ай бұрын
    • I'm a level 8 crank polisher/ distributor, and let me tell you! The efficiency gains I've seen in the forward and return strokes using this technology are astounding! I can deliver the heaviest of loads now in a single trip. Also by passing the savings onto my loyal customer base means that I'm making fewer tedious trips over to your mom's place!

      @codylapoint@codylapoint2 ай бұрын
  • My 1974 Merc Cougar XR7, when i ported & polished the Elderbrock Intake i put in golfball dimples inside just by hand, 1992 when i had that 400M (0.020 over) out. Had lots of fun in it over the decades. Was stationed at Edwards AFB working on B2 at the time :) all of them were just under the carb & inside the runners where a die grinder w 1/8" carbide cutter fit too. No idea or dyno testing but managed 17mpg for a long time.😊

    @markmatt9174@markmatt91742 ай бұрын
  • This channel just continues to grow to be better and better. I just love and seriously appreciate the effort you guys put in, in achieving absolute excellance in automotive engineering. The way that you guys do not close your eyes and minds to new ways of doing stuff, is testament to your commitment in constantly moving the whole internal combustion industry forwards. Im just off to watch this video again, it really is solid gold stuff. Many thanks David in the UK.

    @davidjones8680@davidjones86802 ай бұрын
    • You're the best!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • The ceramic coating and porous surface makes sense, it definitely seems as though it would cut down noise levels in the engine.

    @donniev8181@donniev81812 ай бұрын
    • It'll make the green with one shot too !! 🙄😂

      @peterfitzpatrick7032@peterfitzpatrick70322 ай бұрын
  • Racing MX I got some insight on squish shaping of heads and scalloping of intake ports. This is next level and very cool!

    @motomikebuilder@motomikebuilder2 ай бұрын
    • Very cool!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • This is easily one of my favorite videos from you guys! I would LOVE to see more in depth content from the Monster Engine side of things with engine break down and builds!! Either way, great content guys and happy to watch the growth! If you guys end up needing a well trained CNC Machinist, i would be willing to travel to work for a great company like you guys!

    @pixlbunz@pixlbunz2 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for the videos! Bill and Ernie Elliott were using The golf ball dimpling on pistons and combustion chambers. Since the 1980’s in Nascar. Until someone let the cat out of the bag, and then Nascar changed the rules to a lower mandated compression.

    @therory6888@therory68882 ай бұрын
  • Correctly sized rod bearings make a diesel quieter, too.

    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22592 ай бұрын
  • We tested this on a wet flow bench. So we took 318 heads one we put HUGE dimples into combustion chamber, one we roughed up 40grit, and one we polished. The wet flow showed the dimples and rough surface worked well to stop pooling of fuel. With polished HORRID combustion chamber of 318s it puddled on head didnt get complete "burn" or atomization AT ALL. So there is some truth to this in keeping fuel in air. Direct inj fixes that obviously. But im interested in what benefits on head of piston would be. Our dimples where much more close to each other. But it did work. Wow the noise is way reduced

    @captaintoyota3171@captaintoyota31712 ай бұрын
    • Turbulence is a fantastic thing once you combine fuel & air.

      @bamascubaman@bamascubaman2 ай бұрын
    • Roush racing was putting dimples into intake manifold runners on Ford NASCAR motors back in the 80s similar results increased power lower fuel use

      @kenkahn138@kenkahn1382 ай бұрын
    • The main difference in your testing and their product is the ceramic coating on top of the piston..

      @TheSinfulO1@TheSinfulO12 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kenkahn138 it also made the runners easy to slime up with gelled mothballs for a real good qualifying lap🤫

      @79huddy@79huddy2 ай бұрын
    • They placed the dimples where the injection jets spray. So there probably don't have to be many of them.

      @what9418@what9418Ай бұрын
  • This is pretty incredible. I noticed how much smoother my 6.7 was when I started using scheaffer oil. Add those pistons holy crap

    @Mark-fe1be@Mark-fe1be2 ай бұрын
  • Dave i like your stuff so far. You seem like a straight up, honest guy who has spent years perfecting his craft or trade. Can't wait to see more on this. Increasing power, economy, longevity while lowering maintenance seems like the golden ticket.

    @lizgibson5266@lizgibson52662 ай бұрын
  • Hello from England, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I came across your channel by chance and really enjoy listening to your content. Look forward to seeing you on Discovery Channel.

    @Kpglory@Kpglory2 ай бұрын
    • Awesome! Thank you!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • AMEN DAVE & CREW! :) I love nothing more than turning on youtube and checking out your videos and learning from them. My 2 kids 7 & 5 say can we watch The Motor man on youtube. Honestly guys love what you are doing not only in your shop but online also. Been watching for a few weeks now and been meaning to say thank you. Not only is it about motors but also relevant in life also. All the way from Gold Coast Australia. Luke.

    @SelfMasteryWithLukePearce@SelfMasteryWithLukePearce2 ай бұрын
  • Since they build motors it’s simple. Dyno test a motor with standard pistons and then change them out and test again. Do a ,”calab”.

    @Turkeyfry100@Turkeyfry100Ай бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing Dave. I have been hearing about this technology for a few years now but never had a chance to do any testing myself, so keep us updated on any installations or testing you do.👍👍👍

    @keshwannaidu3943@keshwannaidu39432 ай бұрын
  • Idk what to say.....I'm sure Dave has a set of the trick pistons coming and when he tells us it's for real....well then I'm sold..👍🇺🇲

    @JDZiemba1773@JDZiemba17732 ай бұрын
  • On a 2 stroke dirtbike engine, the squish factor comes into play. If the compression is uneven, you build hot spots. I might dimple my next piston just to see.. Pretty cool idea.

    @theericbenson1692@theericbenson16922 ай бұрын
    • Just a 'side thought' - the dimples would tend to lower the compression ratio and increase the total chamber volume by the amount of material removed from the dimpling process. Will that necessitate a skim of the head to restore the compression ratio? HA - or am I completely wrong? CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.

      @elvispresley3340@elvispresley3340Ай бұрын
    • @elvispresley3340 Yes I already have a milled head and it seems to build more heat..

      @theericbenson1692@theericbenson1692Ай бұрын
  • I remember back in the 2000s on carbed dirt bikes (cuz the 1 cylinder setup) the dimped intake ports was a thing. Even dimped intake valve. It helped the fuel atomization in the air and gives less fuel condensation on the walls. I think it is something similar can happen, increased atomization in the cylinder, better burn. Oh this atomization was just mentioned at 13:50 hehe. It would be nice to see how the hex shaped area in the piston affect the burning, and the flame shape. Looks like a lots of thought went in the piston. Great work, hats off! Can't wait for the upcoming videos with this piston.

    @Mr.Bearded.Mechanic@Mr.Bearded.Mechanic2 ай бұрын
  • I love this Channel! Learning a lot from Dave and the crew... keep up the great work.

    @andydelfinado267@andydelfinado2672 ай бұрын
  • Dave thank you so much for teaching me about the new pistons your channel is great keep these types of videos coming

    @Russell_1987@Russell_19872 ай бұрын
    • You bet!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • Gale Banks Gale Banks Gale Banks

    @chrisowston8782@chrisowston87822 ай бұрын
  • I can't wait to see both of you collab. Good stuff. Keep on doing what you do.

    @clarencewong9254@clarencewong92542 ай бұрын
  • Looking forward to it! 2 of my favorite Automotive Channels for sure!

    @Jonnydeerhunter@Jonnydeerhunter2 ай бұрын
  • You had me at mining application and WW2 aircraft engines.

    @twillison8824@twillison88242 ай бұрын
    • High octane fuel won WWII.

      @MarkSDCA@MarkSDCA2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@MarkSDCA its definitely on the list, along with proximity fuses for AA rounds, forced induction, shaped charge warheads. So many things that came to be as a result of ww2. As horrible as the time was it slingshotted the world ahead by decades in tech.

      @jblob5764@jblob57642 ай бұрын
  • Dave's thumbnail face is the face my friend made when I told them what I'd do for a Klondike Bar.

    @scott8919@scott89192 ай бұрын
  • I dunno squat about motors but this channel is Fantastic!! Great job Dave & Team!! Wonderful and informative videos!!

    @shane3363@shane33632 ай бұрын
  • Hey Dave, you and your team are the best! God bless you guys, cant wait to see the show! Thanks dude!

    @jeremyrogers9959@jeremyrogers99592 ай бұрын
  • Dave I used to be a mechanic and I was surprised by this piston! Pretty cool if it really works? BTW I really like your channel. You're not afraid to comment on a bad design and as a mechanic I've seen lots of bad designs, so I subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.

    @user-nw5ug1hf4w@user-nw5ug1hf4w2 ай бұрын
    • Cool, thanks

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • I love this stuff Dave. Those pistons are some real "Rearden Metal" style development. I'm sure you'll get some blow-back like "why try customers with an untested product?" Well, what can you say: "I trust my own judgement".

    @matthewstroud4294@matthewstroud42942 ай бұрын
  • I love this channel. Thanks Dave!

    @PleeseCallMeDan@PleeseCallMeDan2 ай бұрын
  • Looks and sounds like a winner Dave, I have worked diesel service and repair for all of my life but never knew this type of piston was available. I remember when Slick 50 came out and it was awesome to quiet down a Diesel engine. Wynn oil for transmissions, Minneapolis Moline G1000 had this howling noise that would make you deaf. Keep up the great work.

    @danthurman9076@danthurman90762 ай бұрын
  • But what about the longevity of the pistons? Do they wear out after 20000 miles?

    @drspock3454@drspock34542 ай бұрын
  • I've seen some interesting results from dimpling piston tops and head ports, both intake & exhaust. Dimpling ports increases the volume but has the benefit of keeping velocity about the same, which is important. At least that's the theory. For pistons there are probably benefits in cylinder filling. The ceramic coating has advantages on its own too. I wonder if they've independently done tests of each application to see what differences there are. They probably have.

    @rosschamberlain1823@rosschamberlain18232 ай бұрын
  • I race jr dragsters in late 90s early 2000s. One of my engines intake port was dimpled like a golf ball, it was a very ahead of its time and fast engine.

    @neelhill8946@neelhill89462 ай бұрын
  • American ingenuity at its finest!

    @jeffallen3382@jeffallen33822 ай бұрын
  • Love this channel. Keep up the work boys

    @therev6689@therev66892 ай бұрын
    • Thanks! Will do!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting, I too need more independent proof. But I'd sure try it if I'm doing a rebuild

    @treesquatch9150@treesquatch91502 ай бұрын
  • Channels that have honest content like this make the world a better place.

    @who_wantsit@who_wantsit2 ай бұрын
  • Exciting piston technology premiered by Dave’s Auto Center. Thanks Dave!

    @Richie_Rr@Richie_Rr2 ай бұрын
  • Dave gentry and son trucking out of Tennessee is already put these pistons in a 12 seven Detroit and they have worked out very well for him

    @leewalker3514@leewalker35142 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the feedback Lee👍

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • you MUST meet Lake…. I worked with his dad and Lake Jr is of the same character and has incredible KNOWLEDGE! Lake Speed is the cat`s meow!

    @stephengreen2898@stephengreen28982 ай бұрын
    • You bet ! 👍

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • I don’t work on cars anymore but damn I love this channel.Dave you have to be the most honest boss ever.Thanks for letting us ride along with you and the guys.

    @wildbill1313@wildbill13132 ай бұрын
  • Dimpling has been used for years in motorsports and 2 stroke applications to "clean up" inefficient combustion chamber design. The idea is to read the piston crown for gaswash in the carbon, and introduce dimples to create turbulence and ignite the stale areas for an even flame front/burn. The same idea as unshrouding valves, removing sharp edges and blending valve reliefs.

    @robh9577@robh95772 ай бұрын
  • THIS is a Direct result of the great Show of MYTHBUSTERS where they tested wind resistance of vehicles that were dented all over the vehicles with golf ball sized dents and they proved it provided greater fuel mileage.

    @robertdoell4321@robertdoell43212 ай бұрын
    • air flow over a dimpled surface is a lot different scenario than the air flow a piston encounters

      @JoshHighley@JoshHighley2 ай бұрын
    • They used this tech in ww2.

      @Strickland325@Strickland3252 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Strickland325 bouncing bombs

      @edgarbeat2851@edgarbeat28512 ай бұрын
  • Highly persuasive. We need you to test a car for noise, temperatures around the engine exhaust emissions chassis dynamometer for power and torque objective road test for acceleration and fuel consumption . Then you pull the engine change the pistons and repeat all the tests. If you can show positive improvements we will believe you - then they will become standard fit for rebuilding everything everywhere .The theory does sound credible - no doubt they will be much more expensive at least initially - but if this is true it is staggering .

    @richardhintonracing@richardhintonracing2 ай бұрын
    • Appreciate your comment. You have some very good questions and thoughts. This link from Speed of air may be helpful. www.speedofair.com/r-d

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCentervilleАй бұрын
    • @@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Thank you, much look forward to seeing developments on this issue . Greatly enjoy the videos by the way here 40 miles north of London

      @richardhintonracing@richardhintonracingАй бұрын
    • lets do this test on a single or twin cylinder motorcycle!

      @fidelcatsro6948@fidelcatsro69485 күн бұрын
  • I'm tuned in. Thanks for putting out something really interesting Daves Auto Center.

    @bowesman1000@bowesman10002 ай бұрын
  • Every episode is a much watch for me . Great facilities and common sense .

    @richardhintonracing@richardhintonracing2 ай бұрын
  • Been out of the business almost a decade yet strangely fascinated by your channel. Can’t wait for and hope you get your tv show.

    @greghelms4458@greghelms44582 ай бұрын
    • He's already got a TV show, right here on YT!

      @e-curb@e-curb2 ай бұрын
  • It's so intersting, i wasn't know this technology. Thanks to share with us Dave👍🙏

    @gronniergilles6458@gronniergilles64582 ай бұрын
    • My pleasure!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • You put out some awesome content , always interesting and informative. Appreciate you guys

    @williamcopeland6039@williamcopeland6039Ай бұрын
  • I recently had speed of air piston put in my 6.7 Cummins from my 2020 Ram 5500. Results are, Engine runs smothers, less vibration Very quiet running. Have only run about 3000 miles so far so I'm waiting for more break in before pulling firm fuel efficiency numbers. But it's looking good.

    @darylnotter1365@darylnotter13652 ай бұрын
    • So in 3k miles you haven't even bothered paying attention to fuel efficiency?

      @volvo09@volvo092 ай бұрын
    • @@volvo09With the money he spent on the Pistons swap he doesn’t care about fuel economy. It probably cost him $10,000-ish to do the piston swap.

      @yesode4201@yesode4201Ай бұрын
  • You know what could really use those pistons is a 7.3 or a 6.0 The dimple doesn’t surprise me on sound, VW reduced their diesel noise by adding a big dimple in the cylinder head

    @macthemec@macthemec2 ай бұрын
  • What happens when those dimples get filled with carbon build-up?

    @labourlawact7826@labourlawact78262 ай бұрын
    • 🤔

      @fidelcatsro6948@fidelcatsro69485 күн бұрын
  • I love this. I’m sure there are even more undiscovered efficient coatings out there for pistons, and even others metal-on-metal parts of an engine.

    @internet_internet@internet_internet2 ай бұрын
  • Awesome presentation!!! I have never heard of the dimpled pistons, until now... Very interesting.... The Total seal rings , I have heard about for a long time... And they are really nice...

    @michaelmartinez1345@michaelmartinez13452 ай бұрын
  • If this piston is so great and giving a 25% increase in fuel efficiency, much longer oil change intervals and decreased exhaust temperatures, WHY are the manufacturers not using it? WHY is this being sold as an aftermarket engine rebuild and not for the OEMs to just make them with these pistons in the first place? Imagine the look on engine manufacturers executives' faces when you tell this simple part means 25% increase in fuel efficiency and longer oil change intervals and better emissions!!! They would be breaking down the doors of this company ordering millions of them.

    @christo930@christo9302 ай бұрын
  • Really cool stuff. Keep up the good work.

    @colterbolton9418@colterbolton94182 ай бұрын
    • Thanks, will do!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • You do a good job getting information out one of the good videos to keep it up thank you

    @jimmarkiewicz1694@jimmarkiewicz16942 ай бұрын
  • The look on Dave's face in the thumbnail LOL!

    @gdessario5014@gdessario50142 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating! I'd love to see a production diesel sedan with these pistons someday

    @JVR2019@JVR20192 ай бұрын
    • That would be cool!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • So you put these pistons in a 6.7 Duramax, add in some Bank's upgrades and AMS oil ... I want to see that build plus all of Dave's upgrades.

    @hhiser6206@hhiser62062 ай бұрын
    • That would be awesome!!!!!!! Love to see that.

      @4673962@46739622 ай бұрын
    • no id like to see a better company that actually has decent products instead of banks, like fleece performance or similar

      @cs-gj3yf@cs-gj3yf2 ай бұрын
  • Wow such a a great job y'all are doing guys. Really proud to say I was one of your first time subscribers.

    @Arthurknight.4@Arthurknight.42 ай бұрын
  • Very exciting. Looking forward to seeing one of your engines with speed of air pistons and results after

    @kengingras549@kengingras5492 ай бұрын
  • Two videos in one day. This, this is good.

    @burnedsoap1@burnedsoap12 ай бұрын
  • Speed of Air technology is something new, I’ve asked if they would make piston’s for my old 7.3 but they have no plans, they make the pistons for 6.0 liter Cummins and Cat.

    @davidlampe4153@davidlampe41532 ай бұрын
    • Yea that would be fantastic but unfortunately not as many of us with the ol 7.3 anymore to perk these guys up. Just imagine how weird it would sound with the injectors still hammering.

      @jonsaircond8520@jonsaircond85202 ай бұрын
    • The cummins 5.9/6.7, cat are the bigger demand for now, so they'll focus their energy there and as demand and money comes in, expand to older engines

      @bondobilly9369@bondobilly93692 ай бұрын
  • This is the content I like. Please make more

    @evildrizzt1@evildrizzt12 ай бұрын
  • This is a SEVERE GAME CHANGER Cannot wait to intrudes these into my engine builds. Mayport, Florida

    @albesures.316@albesures.3162 ай бұрын
  • If it what they said it is more power more mpg and less emissions it be a game changer for the trucking industry

    @chuckdameron5626@chuckdameron56262 ай бұрын
  • Going from 13mpg to 16mpg = $576 per 10k mi at $4 a gallon ( UT, salt lake basin price as of 3/11/24) . This yealds a 9month ROI for my 25k per year based on, The Diesel Podcast, speed of Air interview price point of $1025 for cummins 5.9. Less if you discount the price of stock replacement slugs.

    @daviddroescher@daviddroescher2 ай бұрын
  • Dave i love your videos! Im a traveling construction superintendent from maine. Love working on things and learning. My son is actually moving to utah, his wife is going to be attending BYU in provo. Keep up the great content!

    @tomwhalen9618@tomwhalen96182 ай бұрын
    • That is awesome!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • I know it's an old engine in the minds of most, but... some of us folks driving 1.9L TDI 4-inline engines in Volkswagens would LOVE having this as a modify/rebuild option. There is a shocking number of them on the road, worldwide.

    @chrstphrr@chrstphrrАй бұрын
  • Do y'all know Mark "the beard of knowledge" from Pawn Stars? I never would have guessed he had a brother who was a gearhead!

    @tate6809@tate68092 ай бұрын
  • I'd love to see 2-3 different engines, 100% stock, run on a dyno for several hours each. Record power, emissions, take oil samples, etc. then do nothing but change the pistons and rings then repeat the same tests, collecting the same data.

    @WalkerSmallEnginePerformance@WalkerSmallEnginePerformance2 ай бұрын
  • This is pretty much like engine additives, they are meant to be sold. There is no distinguishable power difference. But from experience in testing different surfaces and coatings, it does not improve airflow to have these in cylinder heads, combustion chambers, or pistons.

    @slopoke22@slopoke22Ай бұрын
  • Sorry Dave, if these pistons really are that much of an improvement in power and emissions -- then why hasn't every OEM started putting these in production engines? I'd like to see Gale Banks test these pistons on his dyno and measurement setup and your own real world engine builds. Make this sceptic a believer.

    @sstreet9436@sstreet94362 ай бұрын
    • Perhaps auto manufacturers do not want to pay a patent royalty?

      @maxscriptguru@maxscriptguru2 ай бұрын
    • @@maxscriptguru non-sense. If the pistons really do save emissions and boost efficiency; the cost will be absorbed in the production and the OEMs benefit immediately; either by marketing more power and better economy, or paying less in CAFE fees. And if you don't think the emission controls don't cost the consumer more money. Not too long ago an auto with CA State emissions was at least $1400 more than the other 49 states (though several have adopted some of CA emission regulations, but that is a whole other can of worms). I look forward to real world testing and science data - not some single company claiming a patent with "their" own "testing" data. My Statistics professor (way back in the 80's) taught us a valuable lesson. Statistics with numbers, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

      @sstreet9436@sstreet94362 ай бұрын
    • Other than the quieter dmax. There is no proof yet. Seems too good to be true.

      @charleecee6201@charleecee62012 ай бұрын
    • People build things w death dates these days. Ford, Ram, chevy etc don't want their motors to last longer then we are not buying new trucks or cars.

      @joshtoomey7810@joshtoomey78102 ай бұрын
    • Oil companies (and even car companies) could give a f about efficiency or reducing maintenance intervals or even a product that works well. It's only when new government regulations force them to make improvements that they are forced to comply. Oil companies have been know to buy up patents just to suppress discoveries that could affect their profit margins, meanwhile getting huge government subsidies, basically screwing us coming and going. Perhaps this is rediscovered technology that was suppressed by oil companies.... just a thought.

      @phiksit@phiksit2 ай бұрын
  • I definitely wanna see y’all dyno a engine with those pistons

    @Michael-gh1tj@Michael-gh1tj2 ай бұрын
  • Badass . I read about those pistons while back and been waiting for the test results of them

    @chrisvozza6530@chrisvozza65302 ай бұрын
  • I am greatly appreciative of the sharing of information that this channel provides. "Teach a man to fish". I look up to y'all immensely and happily anticipate new nuggets of wisdom.

    @Ar0d@Ar0d2 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville: "If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he will ditch Sacrament Meeting and sit in a boat and drink beer all day!"

      @edwatts9890@edwatts98902 ай бұрын
  • Love your videos Dave!

    @brandonyoung196@brandonyoung1962 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • I remember my friend building small block chevy himself and he ported the heads and pistons with a golf ⛳️ ball dimple. That technology has been around for years.

    @funnyman1972@funnyman19722 ай бұрын
    • He didn't have the gap less rings though. I had seen the intake ported like golf ball before

      @proudpennsylvaniaman7996@proudpennsylvaniaman79962 ай бұрын
  • This channel is great because Dave’s the man. Excellent content

    @wildmanturner@wildmanturner2 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoy it!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • Dave has the best information n trades ever. I greatly appreciate him sharing his knowledge

    @jaredmurphy8710@jaredmurphy87102 ай бұрын
    • Glad you think so!

      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville@DavesAutoCenterCenterville2 ай бұрын
  • If the right people see this video, you might be busy just installing those awesome pistons for the next 4 years! 👍🏻

    @donmitchell532@donmitchell5322 ай бұрын
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