I believe it was a bit unfair leaving the NA V10 with the 4-Speed Auto, when the boosted versions had the 6-Speed Auto. Great test anyways! 😎🤘 edit: The Engine Debug App showed the 4-Speed index instead of the 6-Speed, despite FM saying that all trucks had the 6-Speed.
@rayboccino51742 жыл бұрын
The torque converter makes the advantages of the supercharger disappear. Or more like, you can't see the disadvantages of the turbocharger, since the engines rev high all the time. A turbocharged engine in the beginning of the rev zone is pretty much an NA-engine.
@MegaNassu2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the type of turbo. A 2.0 turbo diesel feels very different off the line than a 2.0 turbo petrol (for example; BMW 320d vs 320i
@aidan15852 жыл бұрын
@@aidan1585 With a VNT turbocharger the turbo lag problem is still there, even though it isn't as clear. Also they do struggle when the revs go close to idle.
@MegaNassu2 жыл бұрын
A turbocharged engine down low on revs if cammed and f the turbo is meant for high rpm will be a slug. Small turbos, low rpm cams and some engines can be torque monsters on the low revs
@santiagogiuntoli67262 жыл бұрын
These engines sound amazing!
@jasperhaze83092 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Marsonpika2 жыл бұрын
V10❤
@denizuysal91882 жыл бұрын
I mean you can go with the v10 triton gasser or the v8 powerstroke turbo diesel. A V10 powerstroke turbo diesel really doesn’t need to be a thing, but it could be 🤔
@glorifiedelement2 жыл бұрын
Call up ford right now. We need that
@tacticalidiot1752 жыл бұрын
Nissan Diesel, Hino, Isuzu, and Mitsubishi Fuso has built diesel v10 trucks.
@bitelaserkhalif2 жыл бұрын
which powerstroke tho, 6.7, 6.0, 6.4 or 7.3?
@kensterfr33k2 жыл бұрын
@@kensterfr33k Definitely not 6.0 or 6.4
@loudenschucker10422 жыл бұрын
@@loudenschucker1042 so will it be the 7.3 based 9.3 v10 or the 6.7 based 8.3/8.4 v10?
@kensterfr33k2 жыл бұрын
Good show , but a little unfair with the turbo having 5 more psi then super charger. Even in the Dyno you can tell the turbo has large advantage. But be interesting to see who win if balanced... maybe when the n\a gave up you could have increased it's displacement to see if it can keep up too
@dousebicth29012 жыл бұрын
The turbo truck have 6 psi more then supercharger truck(15.5 psi on the supercharger, and 21.5 psi on the turbo)
@gustavohp34392 жыл бұрын
0.24 MPG lol
@captainslow28832 жыл бұрын
usa moment
@mr.wyrzykowski75222 жыл бұрын
how my grandpa thinks of huge lifted diesel trucks
@eternaljaxton77952 жыл бұрын
the boosted trucks sound so good.
@mohamedadheel832 жыл бұрын
I think the boost between supercharger and turbo should be the same. That way the difference in turbos and superchargers is shown well
@bennyboyy72 жыл бұрын
Maybe locking torque converters for all trucks, too.
@georgeernst43482 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m glad forgotten mustard reads the comments. Most people don’t do.
@imgoodreally65582 жыл бұрын
I think it was a little unfair how the turbo'd truck made significantly more boost that the supercharged truck
@gagedykstra86022 жыл бұрын
Superchargers are parasitic so to me it seems about right. The supercharged one might fair better with a higher stall converter?
@sidneysanders57262 жыл бұрын
Supercharger make better torque
@zadyma9474 Жыл бұрын
I wonder which one would win in a drag race🤔
@Kxdnate2 жыл бұрын
turbocharged one i think
@EngiNetion2 жыл бұрын
@@EngiNetion the supercharged one might be more responsive tho
@Kxdnate2 жыл бұрын
@@Kxdnate but the turbo version have a significant amount of power than the supercharged one
@ssaeed66472 жыл бұрын
@@ssaeed6647 Yeah, 15 psi supercharger vs 21.6 psi turbo, that's 495 bhp vs 673 bhp. And if the N/A truck had the 6-speed like the boosted trucks, it could've done one more level at least, the 6-speed has shorter ratios at the start and barely raises top speed afaik
@Avetho2 жыл бұрын
Now we got to see the ford 6.8 v10 gas vs. its diesel counterpart the 6.0 v8
@clayhx55752 жыл бұрын
When you get roughly 4 gallons to the mile… Also props to turbie for winning!
@hilljackzack7284 Жыл бұрын
Woah that was really good experience
@nassera54292 жыл бұрын
What difference will it make if you use a "high stall torque converter", or a "medium torque converter"? Does it affect lifting?
@unitygametv74062 жыл бұрын
It can affect a vehicle's ability to start of with a load. If you can get the engine rpm closer to the torque peak, it'll be a lot easier to get the thing rolling. The downside of a high stall converter, is that if there isn't a lock up clutch in the torque converter, it could decrease fuel economy and make it feel rubber band like in cruising situations.
@storejoshuprite2 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing
@Marsonpika2 жыл бұрын
So gas-guzzling 💝
@norkritt5035 Жыл бұрын
Turbos don't care about load, that's when they shine! Under load
@partsshooter Жыл бұрын
Supercharger is best ❤
@denizuysal91882 жыл бұрын
Hey Mustard love the videos bro! i really enjoy these comparison's! Your channel is the reason i wanted to start making BeamNG Videos i appreciate the content!
@operatorsolidsnake25422 жыл бұрын
nice pulling👍👍👍
@degenhart912 жыл бұрын
Turbo FTMFW!!!!!!!!!
@rangeandi2 жыл бұрын
Pulling tests are back✌️✌️✌️✌️😌😌😌
@rockiedavis72532 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a comment on the nomenclature. Naturally aspirated = “Non boosted”
What about an ev converted one....play with the gear ratios for the ultimate towing beast
@hybrid.roodragon12262 жыл бұрын
It was unscientific when you had the supercharger at a lower boost than the turbo. Try to do this with the same level of boost for each.
@georgeernst43482 жыл бұрын
Engine displacement (cubic inches) 1495.6 4 versions 1st one normal 2nd one supercharged 3rd one single turbo 4th one twin turbo
@TimSmith-vl4qk2 жыл бұрын
25 Liters Are You Insane?
@P440CPJ2 жыл бұрын
@@P440CPJ there were poeple who swap aircraft engines into their cars wich are generaly bigger than 20 liters
@crispyshaman49372 жыл бұрын
please do something with a twin turbo charged+supercharged truck/car and if possible the same but with 4 turbo's
@Damiantjuh2 жыл бұрын
i think it would be a better test if the turbo for also at 15 pounds of boost (same as supercharger) or Vice versa
@wcarguy02 жыл бұрын
and i wonder wat a custom V10 with a Engine displacement (cubic inches) there's
@TimSmith-vl4qk2 жыл бұрын
supercharged v10 sounds like a viper
@amem32442 жыл бұрын
Try the v8 version of them
@eddardrobbcacho12962 жыл бұрын
i wonder what a 8 Liter V10 twin turbo that has BORE 5.125in and STROKE 7.25in and 3 variants of it 1st one makes 1875 hp and 1875 rpm 2nd one makes 2500 hp and 2000 rpm 3rd makes 3100 hp and 2100 rpm
@TimSmith-vl4qk2 жыл бұрын
A V10 with that bore and stroke would be 24.5 litres, not 8
@niia.36422 жыл бұрын
@@niia.3642 ok
@TimSmith-vl4qk2 жыл бұрын
turbo wins bcz it reuse the exhaust gases from engine and not using engine's power like supercharge. but turbocharged have a turbo-lag effect but not with supercharged because its continuously giving some power depends rpm position edit, sorry for my bad english
@arnoldnielsenginting63392 жыл бұрын
The turbo also had 6.6 more psi of boost pressure, and made 178 more horsepower. I believe this supercharger and turbo are both default parts in Beam, but regardless if the turbo and supercharger had the same boost pressure the turbo would have a few more horsepower since a supercharger always consumes a some to power itself. The turbo loses perhaps a dozen bhp near idle due to flow restriction, but the supercharger consumes a few bhp per psi of boost, so perhaps parasitic loss is 40 bhp? I'm rambling at this point XD
@Avetho2 жыл бұрын
Can u do high torque and low hp vs high hp and low torque engines and try to pull with them to see if torque alone or hp alone is better please
@husamalkhatib9450 Жыл бұрын
How bout a break test !!!
@soshadetree69592 жыл бұрын
ford triton v10 test please, and maybe the lost 5.8L v10?
@kensterfr33k2 жыл бұрын
Hi will you respond
@iliketrucks2 жыл бұрын
Non diesel engines aren’t good for towing it said 0.2 mpg lol
@bannoch2 жыл бұрын
Top speeds?
@nathansmith3012 жыл бұрын
Let them freakin crash after please thats what the games for
@hunterwagar29652 жыл бұрын
then play it yourself
@stanleycahyadi60142 жыл бұрын
@@stanleycahyadi6014 fair point
@hunterwagar29652 жыл бұрын
The turbo engine won, but at what cost...
@krnt132 жыл бұрын
How do you get the app showing horsepower and stuff
@Midwesttrains212 жыл бұрын
Dodge Viper's engine?
@johnnymadrazo19972 жыл бұрын
Yes, But No This Is A Magnum V10 Which Was Based Off The Magnum V8's That Chrysler Had The Viper V10 Was Also Based Off The Magnum V8's But The Viper V10 Was Developed By Lamborghini
@P440CPJ2 жыл бұрын
No. It's the dodge magnum V10. Related to the viper engine but not the same.
@gasolinediesel9722 жыл бұрын
how do you connect multiple trailers to each other and haul them all t once
@eternaljaxton77952 жыл бұрын
Are these engines gasolines ones or diesel ones? The RPM redline looks quite low, so I'm kinda confused
@pruthumanderwad43242 жыл бұрын
I think gas they don't sound like diesels also it said gas guzzling so i asume its gas. Diesels generaly tend to be good on fuel
@crispyshaman49372 жыл бұрын
They are enormous, pushrod V8s, engineered for midrange torque, not HP. All of which favor low revs.
@bcubed722 жыл бұрын
@@bcubed72 they are v10 tho
@crispyshaman49372 жыл бұрын
where you change engine and all the settings
@emrikjohansson1362 Жыл бұрын
how do you get multible trailer
@stefgrootlipman69 Жыл бұрын
hello, what is the mod name ?
@matejkeduch40602 жыл бұрын
make name Stanier 1930 Ford Crown Victoria Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Engine Technical Data Engine type - Number of cylinders : V 8 Engine Code : Ford Modular V8 4.6L Fuel type : Kerosene Fuel System : Multipoint Indirect Injection Lubrication : See oil information Coolant : See Coolant information Engine Alignment : Longitudinal Engine Position : Front Engine size - Displacement - Engine capacity : 4601 cm3 or 280.8 cu-in Bore x Stroke : 90.2 x 90.0 mm 3.54 x 3.54 inches Number of valves : 16 Valves Aspiration : N/A Compression Ratio : 8:1 Maximum power - Output - Horsepower : 203 PS or 200 bhp or 149 kW @ 4250 rpm Maximum torque : 373 Nm or 275 lb.ft @ 3000 rpm Drive wheels - Traction - Drivetrain : RWD Transmission Gearbox - Number of speeds : 4 speed Automatic Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Fuel Consumption (Economy), Emissions and Range Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA Highway ( - 2008): 24 mpg US 9.8 L/100 Km / 29 mpg UK Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA City ( - 2008): 17 mpg US 13.8 L/100 Km / 20 mpg UK Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA Combined ( - 2008): 19 mpg US 12.4 L/100 Km / 23 mpg UK Range (EPA): 360 miles or 580 Km Fuel Tank Capacity : 72 L 15.8 UK gallons 19 US gallons Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Size, Dimensions, Aerodynamics and Weight Body : Sedan Num. of Doors : 4 Wheelbase : 291.3 cm or 114.69 inches Length : 538.5 cm or 212.01 inches Width : 198.6 cm or 78.19 inches Height : 144.3 cm or 56.81 inches Max. Towing Capacity Weight : 454 Kg or 1000.9 lbs Num. of Seats : 5 Aerodynamic drag coefficient - Cx : 0.37 Front Brakes - Disc dimensions : Vented Discs (315 mm) Rear Brakes - Dics dimensions : Discs (282 mm) Front Tyres - Rims dimensions : 225/60 R16 Rear Tyres - Rims dimensions : 225/60 R16 Curb Weight : 1777 kg OR 3918 lbs Weight-Power Output Ratio : 8.8 kg/hp Trunk / Boot capacity : 583 L Transmission Relations 1st Gear Ratio: 2.84 2nd Gear Ratio: 1.55 3rd Gear Ratio: 1.00 4th Gear Ratio: 0.70 Reverse Gear Ratio: 2.32 Final Drive Ratio: 2.73 Gearbox oil Gearbox oil type: Gearbox oil capacity: L
@TimSmith-vl4qk2 жыл бұрын
The turbo one looks to be a tiny bit better than the supercharged one idk maybe it’s just me. And the engine sound 🤤
@TheyCallMeNoobieButItsNewBa2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of this map?
@chanel_x62822 жыл бұрын
what is the map name
@2dquix Жыл бұрын
Mod link pls
@xxblackmasterxx49802 жыл бұрын
Mod Link plz
@azune74552 жыл бұрын
Pls pls do more dodge v10. I have a 2003 ram 2500 v10.
@LearnWithCal2 жыл бұрын
The boost is different. It's not a comparable test.
I believe it was a bit unfair leaving the NA V10 with the 4-Speed Auto, when the boosted versions had the 6-Speed Auto. Great test anyways! 😎🤘 edit: The Engine Debug App showed the 4-Speed index instead of the 6-Speed, despite FM saying that all trucks had the 6-Speed.
The torque converter makes the advantages of the supercharger disappear. Or more like, you can't see the disadvantages of the turbocharger, since the engines rev high all the time. A turbocharged engine in the beginning of the rev zone is pretty much an NA-engine.
Depends on the type of turbo. A 2.0 turbo diesel feels very different off the line than a 2.0 turbo petrol (for example; BMW 320d vs 320i
@@aidan1585 With a VNT turbocharger the turbo lag problem is still there, even though it isn't as clear. Also they do struggle when the revs go close to idle.
A turbocharged engine down low on revs if cammed and f the turbo is meant for high rpm will be a slug. Small turbos, low rpm cams and some engines can be torque monsters on the low revs
These engines sound amazing!
Ikr
V10❤
I mean you can go with the v10 triton gasser or the v8 powerstroke turbo diesel. A V10 powerstroke turbo diesel really doesn’t need to be a thing, but it could be 🤔
Call up ford right now. We need that
Nissan Diesel, Hino, Isuzu, and Mitsubishi Fuso has built diesel v10 trucks.
which powerstroke tho, 6.7, 6.0, 6.4 or 7.3?
@@kensterfr33k Definitely not 6.0 or 6.4
@@loudenschucker1042 so will it be the 7.3 based 9.3 v10 or the 6.7 based 8.3/8.4 v10?
Good show , but a little unfair with the turbo having 5 more psi then super charger. Even in the Dyno you can tell the turbo has large advantage. But be interesting to see who win if balanced... maybe when the n\a gave up you could have increased it's displacement to see if it can keep up too
The turbo truck have 6 psi more then supercharger truck(15.5 psi on the supercharger, and 21.5 psi on the turbo)
0.24 MPG lol
usa moment
how my grandpa thinks of huge lifted diesel trucks
the boosted trucks sound so good.
I think the boost between supercharger and turbo should be the same. That way the difference in turbos and superchargers is shown well
Maybe locking torque converters for all trucks, too.
Great video, I’m glad forgotten mustard reads the comments. Most people don’t do.
I think it was a little unfair how the turbo'd truck made significantly more boost that the supercharged truck
Superchargers are parasitic so to me it seems about right. The supercharged one might fair better with a higher stall converter?
Supercharger make better torque
I wonder which one would win in a drag race🤔
turbocharged one i think
@@EngiNetion the supercharged one might be more responsive tho
@@Kxdnate but the turbo version have a significant amount of power than the supercharged one
@@ssaeed6647 Yeah, 15 psi supercharger vs 21.6 psi turbo, that's 495 bhp vs 673 bhp. And if the N/A truck had the 6-speed like the boosted trucks, it could've done one more level at least, the 6-speed has shorter ratios at the start and barely raises top speed afaik
Now we got to see the ford 6.8 v10 gas vs. its diesel counterpart the 6.0 v8
When you get roughly 4 gallons to the mile… Also props to turbie for winning!
Woah that was really good experience
What difference will it make if you use a "high stall torque converter", or a "medium torque converter"? Does it affect lifting?
It can affect a vehicle's ability to start of with a load. If you can get the engine rpm closer to the torque peak, it'll be a lot easier to get the thing rolling. The downside of a high stall converter, is that if there isn't a lock up clutch in the torque converter, it could decrease fuel economy and make it feel rubber band like in cruising situations.
Sounds amazing
So gas-guzzling 💝
Turbos don't care about load, that's when they shine! Under load
Supercharger is best ❤
Hey Mustard love the videos bro! i really enjoy these comparison's! Your channel is the reason i wanted to start making BeamNG Videos i appreciate the content!
nice pulling👍👍👍
Turbo FTMFW!!!!!!!!!
Pulling tests are back✌️✌️✌️✌️😌😌😌
Great video! Just a comment on the nomenclature. Naturally aspirated = “Non boosted”
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What about an ev converted one....play with the gear ratios for the ultimate towing beast
It was unscientific when you had the supercharger at a lower boost than the turbo. Try to do this with the same level of boost for each.
Engine displacement (cubic inches) 1495.6 4 versions 1st one normal 2nd one supercharged 3rd one single turbo 4th one twin turbo
25 Liters Are You Insane?
@@P440CPJ there were poeple who swap aircraft engines into their cars wich are generaly bigger than 20 liters
please do something with a twin turbo charged+supercharged truck/car and if possible the same but with 4 turbo's
i think it would be a better test if the turbo for also at 15 pounds of boost (same as supercharger) or Vice versa
and i wonder wat a custom V10 with a Engine displacement (cubic inches) there's
supercharged v10 sounds like a viper
Try the v8 version of them
i wonder what a 8 Liter V10 twin turbo that has BORE 5.125in and STROKE 7.25in and 3 variants of it 1st one makes 1875 hp and 1875 rpm 2nd one makes 2500 hp and 2000 rpm 3rd makes 3100 hp and 2100 rpm
A V10 with that bore and stroke would be 24.5 litres, not 8
@@niia.3642 ok
turbo wins bcz it reuse the exhaust gases from engine and not using engine's power like supercharge. but turbocharged have a turbo-lag effect but not with supercharged because its continuously giving some power depends rpm position edit, sorry for my bad english
The turbo also had 6.6 more psi of boost pressure, and made 178 more horsepower. I believe this supercharger and turbo are both default parts in Beam, but regardless if the turbo and supercharger had the same boost pressure the turbo would have a few more horsepower since a supercharger always consumes a some to power itself. The turbo loses perhaps a dozen bhp near idle due to flow restriction, but the supercharger consumes a few bhp per psi of boost, so perhaps parasitic loss is 40 bhp? I'm rambling at this point XD
Can u do high torque and low hp vs high hp and low torque engines and try to pull with them to see if torque alone or hp alone is better please
How bout a break test !!!
ford triton v10 test please, and maybe the lost 5.8L v10?
Hi will you respond
Non diesel engines aren’t good for towing it said 0.2 mpg lol
Top speeds?
Let them freakin crash after please thats what the games for
then play it yourself
@@stanleycahyadi6014 fair point
The turbo engine won, but at what cost...
How do you get the app showing horsepower and stuff
Dodge Viper's engine?
Yes, But No This Is A Magnum V10 Which Was Based Off The Magnum V8's That Chrysler Had The Viper V10 Was Also Based Off The Magnum V8's But The Viper V10 Was Developed By Lamborghini
No. It's the dodge magnum V10. Related to the viper engine but not the same.
how do you connect multiple trailers to each other and haul them all t once
Are these engines gasolines ones or diesel ones? The RPM redline looks quite low, so I'm kinda confused
I think gas they don't sound like diesels also it said gas guzzling so i asume its gas. Diesels generaly tend to be good on fuel
They are enormous, pushrod V8s, engineered for midrange torque, not HP. All of which favor low revs.
@@bcubed72 they are v10 tho
where you change engine and all the settings
how do you get multible trailer
hello, what is the mod name ?
make name Stanier 1930 Ford Crown Victoria Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Engine Technical Data Engine type - Number of cylinders : V 8 Engine Code : Ford Modular V8 4.6L Fuel type : Kerosene Fuel System : Multipoint Indirect Injection Lubrication : See oil information Coolant : See Coolant information Engine Alignment : Longitudinal Engine Position : Front Engine size - Displacement - Engine capacity : 4601 cm3 or 280.8 cu-in Bore x Stroke : 90.2 x 90.0 mm 3.54 x 3.54 inches Number of valves : 16 Valves Aspiration : N/A Compression Ratio : 8:1 Maximum power - Output - Horsepower : 203 PS or 200 bhp or 149 kW @ 4250 rpm Maximum torque : 373 Nm or 275 lb.ft @ 3000 rpm Drive wheels - Traction - Drivetrain : RWD Transmission Gearbox - Number of speeds : 4 speed Automatic Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Fuel Consumption (Economy), Emissions and Range Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA Highway ( - 2008): 24 mpg US 9.8 L/100 Km / 29 mpg UK Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA City ( - 2008): 17 mpg US 13.8 L/100 Km / 20 mpg UK Fuel Consumption - Economy - EPA Combined ( - 2008): 19 mpg US 12.4 L/100 Km / 23 mpg UK Range (EPA): 360 miles or 580 Km Fuel Tank Capacity : 72 L 15.8 UK gallons 19 US gallons Ford Crown Victoria 4.6 V8 200hp Size, Dimensions, Aerodynamics and Weight Body : Sedan Num. of Doors : 4 Wheelbase : 291.3 cm or 114.69 inches Length : 538.5 cm or 212.01 inches Width : 198.6 cm or 78.19 inches Height : 144.3 cm or 56.81 inches Max. Towing Capacity Weight : 454 Kg or 1000.9 lbs Num. of Seats : 5 Aerodynamic drag coefficient - Cx : 0.37 Front Brakes - Disc dimensions : Vented Discs (315 mm) Rear Brakes - Dics dimensions : Discs (282 mm) Front Tyres - Rims dimensions : 225/60 R16 Rear Tyres - Rims dimensions : 225/60 R16 Curb Weight : 1777 kg OR 3918 lbs Weight-Power Output Ratio : 8.8 kg/hp Trunk / Boot capacity : 583 L Transmission Relations 1st Gear Ratio: 2.84 2nd Gear Ratio: 1.55 3rd Gear Ratio: 1.00 4th Gear Ratio: 0.70 Reverse Gear Ratio: 2.32 Final Drive Ratio: 2.73 Gearbox oil Gearbox oil type: Gearbox oil capacity: L
The turbo one looks to be a tiny bit better than the supercharged one idk maybe it’s just me. And the engine sound 🤤
What is the name of this map?
what is the map name
Mod link pls
Mod Link plz
Pls pls do more dodge v10. I have a 2003 ram 2500 v10.
The boost is different. It's not a comparable test.