Why Some Sikhs Want Khalistan - 1984 Sikh Massacre Explained By Survivor
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Very excited to have Harinder Singh back on our show again. He serves as the Senior Fellow, Research & Policy at the Sikh Research Institute (SikhRI). He is a widely respected educator, activist, author, and thinker. His current focus is on developing critical thinking for Sikh institutions via the State of the Panth report series and developing open-source decoding of Guru Granth Sahib in contemporary Panjabi and English for a global audience.
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He is a soft khalistani
Kashmiri pandits par bhi ek video banao
Beautifully explained
@@anshupandit4490 I completely agree with you.
@@anshupandit4490 😂😂 yeah now he Told in video we are not getting our rights in polite way u used soft khalistani😂😂 u didn't even mentioned what government did to Sikhs that's why we become like this. If it's khalistan for u then guru taught us to be khalistani when there is injustice
I am from South India and wasn’t even born when the events in 1984 happened. I am sorry to the Sikh community on what happened. I respect Sikhs, but yaar India is not India without Sikhs.
You dont know a thing before 1984 what sikhs were doing to hindus in 1984 and before after there was lots of terrorism in punjab many hi dus were massaacered
@@sagararora8694 you don’t know anything about pre 1984 punjab. There was no massacre, it was all portrayed as bad by the government. Ask the hindus of punjab if they agree with any of what you say.
@@harsh3936 no but brow even a kindergarten toddler knows that 80-85% if erstwhile Punjab of Ranjit singh is in Pakistan,so why demanding khalistan from India
@@sagararora8694 Any statistics, how many hindus were killed pre1984 ? Dude , more sikhs were killed even then . Also , the unrest was because of unresolved, legitimate demands of sikhs .
@@sagararora8694 If you can’t feel sorry for your fellow Sikh Indians who got devastated in 1984, then something is wrong with you. Have some compassion. If it wasn’t for the Sikh gurus your ancestors would have given up your Dharmic faith long time ago.
My grandfather a Hindu was a police officer back then and have saved 38 Sikh families from kamalnath's youth Congress rioters.
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respect!
Respect.
Possible that we speak over phone?
Bro being a sikh I am always an Indian and can die for my country....but the thing is that we feel very disheartening that when anything happens they start blaming the whole Community. While writing this comment my eyes are full of tears.....my country my flag is everything for me.... currently I am in UK but still my heart and my soul belongs to my country 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 ...we are in different countries but we are emigrants because of our situations not because we dont like Our motherland.... 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
We love our Sikh brothers
Bhagat singh ko kaise bhoole .......Waheguruji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki Fateh.
Nah..sikhs are >>
Yeap u sure do, so much love was shown in 1947 partition which was actually a partition between punjab not India or Pakistan. Then every time India further divided Punjab and that was not enough, 1984 was the year when Real love was shown, and from 1988 to 1993 40000+ young sikh men from ages 15 to 35 were picked up from their homes and brutally murdered, and in 2021 when Sikhs were called khalistani for just protesting for farm bills and had nth to do with khalistan yet those people were labeled as khalistani. Then after giving 90% sacrifices and you are still being called traitor then what more u want? How many slaps u really want on your face before you realize that india is not Sikhs Country.
Feel disturbed to see you having such feelings. Don't worry at all, the Sikhs are like the blood vessels of our nation & a very respectful community. Hindus in fact consider them as part of their very own family due to historical reasons, long time back the eldest son in a Hindu family would become a Sikh for the protection of Hindus in Punjab. The small community is considerably very large in the Defence forces & are a very respected lot. They are known for their hard work & jollyfulness. Salute to these bravehearts.
i am an Hindu..but i love sikh people..we can't imagine india without our Sikh brother..i just want to tell my sikh brother we all are one.. we all hindu love Sikhs people from bottom of our heart..🇮🇳🇮🇳
CANADA me jake bolo.. waha yeh bat batana zyada zaruri hai aaj
I too fell the same ❤
You will regret this
@@jesusofnazareth3507 so, you don't want Sikh brothers in India, who played the major role in fighting against British
@@devasish21 Dude the British rule is long over. I see a lot Sikhs these days supporting Khalistan.
I am a Sikh and I love my motherland India.. But when someone call us Khalistani or Gaddar we feel ashamed of being Indian.. Good or bad people are there in all communities but whole community should not be blamed for one's bad deeds...
Look sikhs will have to seperate those folks from them so we can know who is who? We can't trust blindly now unfortunately after knowing so many things from the past
I don't think anyone just calling you khalistani for no reason... Actually nobody call a Sikh khalistani for sure...unless you have supported Bhindranwale aur hoist Khalistani flag..no one dare to call you khalistani
Start by fighting the khalistani mindset. Start by tearing down posters and rhetoric valorising khalistanis. Start with your own gurudwaras.
As an hindu and indian , I give all respect to my Punjabi or sikh people. Don't give attention to that people. And I don't understand if some people criticise you all than that people are wrong. Not our motherland INDIA.
Max Sikhs support khalistan....Sikhs living outside Punjab like In delhi , haryana etc are nationalist
I’m from Kerala. During the floods, I was out volunteering for the relief work. I ran into a 2 sikh men who took a train to Kerala. They came with clothes and money. Thier sole intention was community relief work. The sight of these men are burned into my psyche. Kerala is so damn far away from Punjab. Hardly any connections. But these guys came down to help us out. Why ?…I’ve been reading up on Sikhism and bigger respect for them. I hope I can help and my show my support somehow.
Waheguru🙏⚔
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The saddest is faith that believes all humans ar e brothers and sisters. Whole of the Sikh indentity is getting eradicated from Pb and across India -by diverting of river waters of pb away, denying them justice, burning their holy books in their small state, create a bogey of Khalistan( why is legal as per Supreme Court of India)!!!
How beautiful 🙏🏽
these positive stories should be amplified...we don't need hate right now...
I am a south Indian and I lived in Canada for 4 years and the most help I got in that country was from Sikhs, they have the biggest hearts 💕. They are great! During any crisis, you can easily see Sikh community helping and providing food, their contributions to military ❤❤❤
I am an Indian-and lucky to have been raised around Sikhs…they are one of the most loveable peoples …being an Hindu..Sikhism is as close and personal to me as Hinduism is..cant differentiate between them…certainly the nations bows its head down for the 1984 shameful attacks…
I will not comment on past events. But presently, As a punjabi hindu and had lived across different cities of punjab, i feel safe and protected due to my sikh brothers. We never faced any discriminations. I go to Gurudwara sahib and temple every second day. People in Punjab live together with love regardless of their religion. I believe majority of punjabis will agree to this too if they say the truth.
Thanks for telling the truth bro
It's almost not safe to go to a gurudwara outside of India for hindus and also the Sikhs who don't support khalistan
@@marshallmarthes not true. not every sikh abroad support khalistan.
Please do take care yourself.. waheguru is with you
My dadi was a from a sikh family, 90% of my relatives are sikhs. I am a punjabi hindu and never faced any discrimination in gurudwara Sahib. All birth and post-death rituals are usually hosted at a gurudwara and we have never faced any bad behaviour. I don’t know why Sikhs abroad are supporting Khalistan while Sikhs we have in our family are mostly in the army and in favour of India.
Waheguruji ka khalsa Waheguruji ki fateh 🙏🏻🪯 I am a Gujrati Hindu Brahmin from Malaysia, but since I was 16 years old, I have always been going to the Gurdwara and I follow both Hinduism and Sikhism. And the love that I get from Sikh people is so so so so warm and I love them ❤
same here, I'm a sikh and i have always had krishna's photo in my room. my mother knows hanuman chalisa by heart. i love visiting temples and gurudwaras as well🙏
@@momotheorangecataww love hindu Sikh brotherhood ❤️
Sikh are also hindus . ❤
@@momotheorangecat ❤️
@@Harrappa ❤️
Sikhs are Pride of India 🇮🇳 please be united 🙏
We are with you sir. I was one of those witnesses of the violence that ensued in 1984, I was 9 years old. Carrying that visual burden of blood and loss of lives during the riots in Delhi . Still can't forget it, as to why so many innocent Sikhs and other civilians who lost their precious lives
I am Bengali Hindu. And we literally feel how you are going through. In the Northeast Meghalaya, we have faced and are facing the same atrocities. Tribal Christian are in the government as well as in majority and they made our lives a living hell. No one discuss our suffering ,plight and trauma as we are "Bengali Hindu Refugee". Nirbhaya was being discussed but neither Girija Tickoo nor Gauri Dey. But here is a Gurudwara Sahib that becomes a shield for us. We're alive due to its Chhat.
Pleased bring there stories out.
We need a Bengal country and joining Bangladesh is the only solution
Fucking Bangal Gov Mamta Banerjee 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@swarupdas2552😂😂😂
@@swarupdas2552 naam change karke aagaye aag lagane kanglu
Sikh genocide / Kashmir Hindu Genocide - common factor is “Indian National Congress “
Bro, you just stole those words from my heat, so true.
100% true, hope more people open their eyes to the reality of Congress the lowest of the low.
But democracy And Adani 🤡?
When the Kashmir genocide happened, it was a Janata Dal govt at the center. The mismanagement of the event happened under their own watch.
@@Your_real_dad what you are implying is true as well, but don’t forget the hate that has spread in the society.
I am Sikh and my dad gave 40 years of life serving Indian Air force and me being passionate about forces,,,,tried till my last attempt never thought anything apart defence, though not cleared...but after farmers protest a random guy turns up who himself is in US ..calls me Khalistani..litreally that hurts...its my motherland and i dont need to prove to anyone...😐
Sikhs spent life serving India. What India served Sikhs?
Bro everyone served for india but sikhs are always in forefront no doubt in that but you can't say that sikhs got nothing, sikhs are the most loved and respected people in this country❤❤❤❤
For me you are more Indian to me than him ❤
i am sorry dont listen to all the stupid people who spout without knowing you dont need to prove anything we love you
you are right, i am a hindu girl , a kshrtiya, from a lower middle class family....my father told me about....Guru govind singh ji ... and what he has done for us.....and we have a feeling of honor for sikhs... we consider them as fighter, and protector and there is a huge respect for them.....and there can not be the imagination of india without sikhs
yes but not as a sect of hinduism
I am a hindu and never heard of any gaddar word for sikh community. I feel deep sense of gratitude towards sikh community. And would always advise other people to be like them 🙏🏻
Sardar Patel called Sikh community "Jraim Pesha" which means dacoits and mercenaries who kill for money
Really haven’t u heard ur national media calling our elderly father and grandfathers in farmer protest as khalistanis?? R u lying to urself.
@@randhawaz1 your actions reflect societies behavior towards you they were not khalistanis but definetly funded by khalistanis if you don't call out people in your community who make such claims then you all will be judged same way. And why you don't mention that Narendra modi agreed to your demands why dont guys mention that ? You mention farmers protest like government didn't listen to you 🤌🤌and farmers protest were hindu and sikh farmers of Punjab and haryana not just Sikhs !!
@@CHOHAN67 since when we gonna trust a gujju over Punjabis. Gujjus are made for money and can sell their wife for money. While sikhs are born fighters. Your comment doesn’t make any sense to me
@@sswolf7345 We trust gujju over a sikh anyday, sikhs are made to loot, steal from others and sell their wife for money. While gujju gave the most freedom fighters for the country from Gandhi to sardaar patel, majority of freedom movement was lead by gujju.
I am an maharashtrian.. I strongly feel special attention and care should be given to our Sikh brother's and Punjab.. 🙂 Once they are happy and satisfied they will take our country to whole new level
Agree
but he didn't even touch the topic How hundreds of Hindus were killed and lakhs forced to flee Punjab due to Sikh Terrorism...our neighbours relative also forced to run away from Punjab at that time and they stayed in our village for long time. how Sikh Terrorist used to abduct girls and sexually harass them and how they made the Harmandir Sahib their safe sanctuary whr dy used to do all sorts of immoral and illegal things. yet no sikh call out those sikh terrorist rather defend them and justify or simply reject the atrocities on Hindus just like muslims do when it comes to Hindus in Kashmir. this is where problem lies as they don't want to accept their mistake but want others to apologise.
@@Ds-oj5py bad observation copy paste messages 😡
@@amitpalve1 Not bad but truth based on historical events. Are u saying that speaking against Atrocities on Punjabi Hindus & demanding apology from those who aren't even acknowledging the fact what they did to Punjabi Hindus, is Bad Observation. These r not observation but actual experience of Hindus.
@@Ds-oj5py please site the example.. don't talk like a ISI bot
I am from Srilanka, i just came to know about the 1984 riots recently, from what i have read there was Pogrom, mass murder, mass rape, acid throwing, immolation, arson, looting etc. i was not even born at that time, yet i feel a deep pain and sorrow in my heart for the victims.
@sarithjayasankar1897 And who is responsible for this fire? is it not right to condemn those genocidal and horrific acts against humanity and express grief and condolences for the victims? and why are you so bothered? were you or your ancestors also responsible for those evil acts as well? only the guilty needs to be bothered, and who the hell are you to tell me what not to do? i am not your slave and you don't own KZhead, i have the freedom to express my opinion, and i will and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
@@kingofthemultiverse4148outside influences which divided Panjab in 1947
@@Inkulabi Do you also blame "outside influences" for India breaking from the British?
@@stephenjenkins7971 yes the outside forces are colonisers, pre colonialism there were kingdoms and principalities
@@Inkulabi Indian education, smh. Colonization existed long before European colonization. It's just the home nation exploiting the resources of differing peoples. If Hindus are exploiting Sikhs without protecting their rights, then India is a colonizer nation.
My father was 11 year old he saved 4 sikh families in his home when My grandfather was in duty and when he realised about the attacks on sikh he immediately came home. That time my grandmother and my father's brother and sister was in village. So, when he came home my father told him the story and 3-4 times people came in search of them in society but didnt find them. When my grandfather cam to know about all he keep them 5-6 days maybe i dont remember day. Hearing this, my father is my hero in that sense
1984 पर तो सब बात करते है लेकिन 80 के दशक में 40 हजार हिन्दुओ को घरो से निकाल, ट्रेन ,बस से उतार नाम पूछ पूछ कत्ल किया गया ख़ालिस्तानीओ द्वारा उनकी बात कोई क्यों नही करता ?
Sikh community is soul of 🇮🇳..Shield of India..We as Indians are always grateful.WaheGuru🙏🙏🙏Har Har Mahadev
We love you too
That’s a very kind comment to make. But for how long will Sikhs remain a shield for India? When will they stop being labelled as terrorists by media and certain Indians when they are asking for their rights? Like they say, when Sikhs stand on the borders protecting this nation they are hero’s, when they stand up and fight for their rights they are terrorists. That’s not right.
Respect🫡
Love you too brother
I am an Ex-serviceman from Air force, on the behalf of all the Indians, I apologise to all the brothers and sisters of Sikh community. Pl forgive all of us, because we couldn't save many of the Sikh people.
Countless individual apologies may still not heal the fractured heart, many Sikhs don't acknowledge the painful and ugly facts about the victims of the Bhinderwales campaign. Innocent victims were mercilessly mowed down for their faith and identity. It was a senseless agenda and everyone share the blame. Rather than expecting others to apologize SGPGC should hold up the Sikh tradition and apologies to thousands of Nihangs and Hindu families for the act of the Bhindrawales group. Hopefully, it will start the introspection and reconciliation process of the heart of the entire nation.
Bro we accept 1984 riots are not right but they never accepted bhindrawaale killed many hindus and bcoz of bhindrawaale sikhs killed many hindus but they never apologised. So blaming one community for everything is wrong. They still support bhindrawaale after knowing their truth. So I am not apologize for anything bcoz sikhs never accepted their mistake and apologized for anything wrong they did with hindus.
Sant jarnail ji never killed any innocent. He may have killed before but never an innocent.
@@larrys4315 Who gave him the right to take others' life. This is what criminals and mafias do- Crime against humanity. But then the Govt of the time elected with an electoral mandate failed to uphold the constitutional right of victims. They allowed criminals to freely operate & prosper for narrow political reasons, and they too paid the price in the end. But they destroyed faith.
@@larrys4315 , But asking every Sikh to kill 35 Hindus is okay?
Hindus have always stood with Sikhs, it was Congress who created the Khalistan issue.
Yes, Congress party
People of ur community
We can't imagine Hindus without Sikhs.
I am bhudhist i love and respect Sikh community ..jai Guru Nanak Dev Ji.... warrior community
unfortunately buddhist troops were the first to be used against the golden temple.
You are dalit convert in Buddhism not talk about Sikh 😂
@@trueraja So? What's wrong in that? Pasting the term 'Dalit' is what wromg here.
@@gaswhole You say Gurkhas? GURKHAS are Hindus, who worship Devi Chandi or Maa Kaali
@@oldman2023 where did i say gurkhas? And what are you going on about?
My deepest respect to this gentleman for putting across his point so nicely, humbly, politely. 🙏. My respect for our Sikh brothers and sisters was always there but it has increased even more. Thank you , thank you , thank you
I am a Hindu married to Sikh… they think so highly about india and I am treated so well as well my family who are all hindus. They love india but the fact that something happens in past cannot be erased from there heart and if this was happened-to anyone there will be reaction. We need to understand them. They are very patriotic.
thank you for saying this. I'm a sikh and i have an undying love for my nation, proud to be indian.
So why are they asking for a separate nation ? Especially Uk , Canada Sikhs ??
Khalistan is funded by Pakistani ISI remember the Kanishka Air india flight 182 bombings killing 329 innocent lives those were khalistani not real sikhs
You must also acknowledge that the '84 sikh riots didn't happen as a hate for Sikhs , it was also a reaction to situations on ground. It wasn't a planned act but a reaction of anger accumulated during the course of sikh unrest & insurgency.
@@preethishetty6179 Haan so state has to take responsibilty as they are responsible for protecting people..what silly excuse you are giving?
As a Hindu im sorry to all my Sikh brothers❤❤❤❤❤ we love you 💓💕💕💕
Don't say sorry cuz there also many innocent Hindus are killed by khalistanis earlier and that stories are shut down and when khalistani killed indira gandhi that will be common crowd reaction we r no sorry for that. In reality government was responsible why they hadn't shut the khalistani and why khalistanis were stopped in punjab
A Roman Catholic from South India now settled in California... IMMENSE admiration for my Sikh brothers and sisters. My admiration for Sikhs was inculcated very early on as my older brother would tell me how the Indian army was one of the better because of Sikhs, that Sikhs were of great character, valiant / brave, warriors... Listening to Harinder Singh puts things into perspective. It's high time that the Indian Government honors them of their legacy and acknowledges and addresses the injustice.
I grew up to a story my mother used to tell about Sardarji from her childhood and guru gobinddevji and 1947, sahebjaade ji . I grew up listening to two things 1. Always address them as Sardar Ji. Never without a Ji. They are the most kindest warrior clan so we must give respect 2. Even in worst of situation, look for Sardar ji, it would be most safe place under any circumstances! I am glad my Ma taught to me! I have been to Harmandir Saheb ji and have visited Gurudwara Saheb ji whenever possible in my locality or when I visit a new city
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From Guru Gobind Rai Ji he became a Singh. He baptized the Panj Pyare (The 5 beloved ones) and then got baptized by them. Thus he was called Guru Gobind Singh Ji. The only Guru in the world who said I'm your Guru and your servant as well. Waho Waho Gobind Singh Aape Gur Chela. If you read his history you'll be amazed at what he has done for India and the the Sikhs.
Amazing bro. You are amazing
Lol
After listening and seeing the views of people about Sikhs.... I feel pride ND love that I belong to sikh community. But feel so bad whn I find them fighting with other
Guru Govind ji and Guru Nakak ji contribution to India is so great that we all Indians will be indebted forever. Sikhs have given and taught rest of the country so much that there will always be respect for them.
I respect the Sikhs a lot. I lived in Delphi surrounded by Sikh families and grew up with Sikh friends.. great people and it was a disaster what some fundamentalists did in 84. The nation owes a genuine apology . Without sikhs there is no india .
What about 1980-1990 hindu massacre where 35000 Hindus were killed in Punjab by Sikhs .. people only talk about 1984 shame .
Khangress should be Boycotted from Bharath, that's the main reason
@@jaiRajputana2 84 happened due to political reasons while other one happened due to extremist. Fight for cause but keep one thing in mind Hindu and Sikh are same.
@@jaiRajputana2 we arent trying to take blame or give blame we are to move on and accept each other and apologizing to each other is acceptable
14:23 loved the part, hardly anyone say about this that other than warrior they are lover and poet. As it is said in gurbani "Jin prem kiyo thinhi prabhu payo" One who loves him(God) can only attain him.
Entire India is of our Sikh brothers. Since childhood from my heart I deeply respect our Sikh gurus and Sikh brothers. Thanks Ranveer and TRS. Another excellent initiative.
Respect for our Sikh brothers and sisters ❤ India is not India without you. You are the guardians of our country. Big salute and sorry for all the pain that you’ve been through. We all stand with you 🇮🇳
As a Hindu, I always admire Sikh community.
but he didn't even touch the topic How hundreds of Hindus were killed and lakhs forced to flee Punjab due to Sikh Terrorism...our neighbours relative also forced to run away from Punjab at that time and they stayed in our village for long time. how Sikh Terrorist used to abduct girls and sexually harass them and how they made the Harmandir Sahib their safe sanctuary whr dy used to do all sorts of immoral and illegal things. yet no sikh call out those sikh terrorist rather defend them and justify or simply reject the atrocities on Hindus just like muslims do when it comes to Hindus in Kashmir. this is where problem lies as they don't want to accept their mistake but want others to apologise.
@@Ds-oj5pybindu 😂 kharkhus ur baap
This man needs to be interviewed for a long series. He has a lot of things to say but he can't explain in a short interview like that. He knows many things. Appreciated 👍
What a Shame that 19000 innocent hindus were killed by extremist Khalistani Sikhs and no one mentions them. PM Indira Gandhi was killed by Sikhs. Sikhs planned an unnecessary partition of India. Hated hindus for no reason. Targeting hindus and temples abroad. Hated India which gave them more than others for no reason. Sikhs opened fire on Indian Army which they were coming to capture Bhindranwale. Yet this Sikh community is just acting like a victim and abusing hindus till date which treated them like brother and gave Sikh community their eldest sons. Siding with Islamists and jihadi. Shameless and thankless they are. The most wanted criminals of India won't burn India's flag but Sikh community doesn't think twice about it. And he is saying Sikhs do not hate India. Congress was in power that time but they abuse Modi and BJP. Cos they simply hate hindus. Let's not fall in this sugar coated sentences of this podcast and accept the facts. For them Amritpal is a Sikh Soldier. And Hindus have this bad habit of falling in such traps. Those who think Sikhs saved Hindus. Need to go back to proper history and check. Hindus saved themselves. Like they save themselves even till today. Modi arrested the main culprits of 1984 and gave CAA rights to Sikhs.. Still thankless.
Even my father’s neighbour helped him in 84 in U.P . This was happening everywhere around India
Same for my mama ji. Sheltered by Hindu neighbors
My family also helped sikh neighbour in kamla nagar, delhi
But all were not so lucky
In south, what are you talking about
@@manjunathnr4624 not really know about south brother i should have add Almost there, as fas I know it was happening in most of north states.
Sikhs are angry - angry on the massacre committed by congress party workers and yet sikhs chose to select a Congi govt in Punjab ! Why ???? Beats me
Sikhs follow the teachings of our Sri Guru Granth Sahib and live in Peace. But, when there is any injustice, and all other peaceful ways have failed, then, we fight for justice not for ourselves only, but for everyone. That is a Sikh.🙏🏻
Satbachan 🙏🏾📿
Kuutta(dog)HINDU (no offense intented) Mentality🙏jmkk
I am from Tamil Nadu and I am from the 1980s. I am grateful and bow my head down to every Sikh for keeping India safe🙏
how they are keeping india safe ?
The Sikh community deserves a heart felt apology and honesty that’s all they really want.
Which we'll never get. Really dark days ahead for Sikhs in India if we don't fight for our nation. Where there Hindus or India accepts it or not. We all know how India is run by criminals.
Tell that to fawking congress.
@siddyray3361 bro congress did what most of the hindu community wanted at that time. Saying with facts. 90% Hindus voted Congress after the attack on Sikhs. Until today no government has won with that amount of votes. Plus Hindus went into the darbar sahib after the attack with sweets. It's crystal clear Sikhs have no place in India.
While I agree that the Sikhs absolutely deserve an unconditional apology from us ... We were very young in 84 , when this happened but one question has always bothered me , Sikhs always Blame the Then PM for attacking the Golden Temple... but I've never heard anyone ever ask how did so many weapons and bombs enter The Gurudwara... what were Bhindranwale and Gen Shahbeg Singh doing inside and why Bhindranwales Taking over the Akal Takht not outrage the Sikhs? There were enough weapons inside to hold the Indian Army for 2 days.. why are the Sikhs not offended by this and what would they expect a government to do ? Did they not know and realise that such weapons couldn't have come in Without the help of Pakistan ? My question being that the Sikh community was offended by the Indian Army entering but were they not offended and hurt by what Bhindranwale and gang were doing inside their holy place in complete conduit of Pakistan in an attempt to break India ? I would really like to know this x..
You need to understand Brahmin Judges lobby in Supreme Court who saved Indira Gandhi coming out of conviction in a criminal case and support emergency. Read about Justice A N Ray and quid pro quo case who helped Indira coming out of conviction and later on Indira Gandhi making him CJI bypassing Justice Harish Khanna
I am a proud indian sikh and embarrassed for these Khalistanis. They have no plan for a sustainable country. It’s all emotion
religion is one hell of a drug, wont you agree
Same here m Indian first then sikh
You know I am a sikh too, I am aware of the atrosicities of 1984 and would just like to point out that there are several other communities who have suffered for over 30 years, and they have never had to channelise their anger, or require discourse, which may be necessary but doesnt call for tearing up the flag of your own country or abusing it over the internet. You cannot justify the Khalistani movement by saying people want justice...
I have no sympathy for Khalistanis. I narrowly escaped the Lajpat Nagar blasts in 1996. My bus had just left when the bombs went off at the bus stop. Yet it is also a shame that the perpetrators of 1984 were never properly punished.
@@prabuddhaghosh7022 These Sikhs (I am one) who try and justify using violence and terrorism on innocents are not Sikhs at all. They are going directly against the teachings of the Guru's because of their pride. Pride which is a false and deceiving attribute.
Such a wonderful video! Exactly what I’ve felt since 1984 when I was 9 years old and our house was burnt down. We (dad, mom, my brother and me) hid in someone’s house in their storeroom! Sooo much anger within us but yet my parents never showed it.
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We were very young in 84 , when this happened but one question has always bothered me , Sikhs always Blame the Then PM for attacking the Golden Temple... but I've never heard anyone ever ask how did so many weapons and bombs enter The Gurudwara... what were Bhindranwale and Gen Shahbeg Singh doing inside and why Bhindranwales Taking over the Akal Takht not outrage the Sikhs? There were enough weapons inside to hold the Indian Army for 2 days.. why are the Sikhs not offended by this and what would they expect a government to do ? Did they not know and realise that such weapons couldn't have come in Without the help of Pakistan ? My question being that the Sikh community was offended by the Indian Army entering but were they not offended and hurt by what Bhindranwale and gang were doing inside their holy place in complete conduit of Pakistan in an attempt to break India ? I would really like to know this x..
@@thebrigadierscottageThe Akal Takht was designed by Guru Hargobind to be the place of congregation for the Sikh army. Bhindranwale saw himself and his comrades as an army for the Khalsa and were against the perceived injustices that the Indian government were involved in. We both know the Indian government is excellent at controlling media coverage and idolising their MPs all while hiding horrific crimes against humanity under the rug, and Bhindranwale saw that as injustice which must be eradicated as per the Khalsa’s function. Sikhs were free to decide whether they agreed with Bhindranwale or not. However, when that government decided to barge into the the holiest place for ALL Sikhs in the world, a place steeped in religious history, and destroyed important architecture and killed hundreds, that was unacceptable. Not only that, the Indian government also decided to instill disinformation campaigns across the country to villainise Sikhs, causing many more people to be burned alive on the streets and have their homes destroyed by rioters and police. That disinformation campaign has continued today, where now Sikhs are just called another type of Hindu, or warriors that were created to protect Hinduism, or even that the Gurus were regular Hindus because of things like Guru Tegh Bahadurs’ martyrdom. The atrocities committed against Sikhs have been censored by the government and then attempts have been made to merge Sikh culture in with the rest of Hindu culture to try and claim Sikh history as a broader Hindu history as well as hide the pain caused by the government. Do you see why a lot Sikhs hate the Indian government?
@@thebrigadierscottage you lack common sense buddy, there's a difference between invasion and a congregation lmao
Wow Ranveer, this was great! I am a Hindu married in a Sikh family and totally connect to all these guests - can only thank you from the bottom of my heart beta ji for bringing these facts to the youth so they can better understand the recent history. We as humans are so quick to judge but if we need to stop and dig further. All these killings/injustice targeting different faiths need to stop regardless of religion, caste or creed. As Veer ji (guest) said, the common man, you all, we all can change our home, our country! Let’s not stand there and watch something wrong happening to someone, come together and stand for each other 🙏🌸
Sikhs always talk about 1984 riots. It was wrong and should not have happened. But it was not Hindu Sikh riot. It was clearly done by Congress and lead by someone who is a known Christian- it was not a Christian - Sikh riot either. Every human life is precious. What about 35000 Hindus killed in Indian Punjab during decade of 1980-90? Why don't we ever talk about that? Binderwala and his goons removed Hindus from groups and killed all Hindus and not Sikhs and muslims. The count of 35000 includes kids and women too. Why is it that Hindu life is so cheap? While Hindus were killed in Punjab - NO SINGLE SIKH WAS EVEN TOUCHED OUTSIDE PUNJAB except when Indira Gandhi was killed. I never see anyone talk about the Hindu killings by SIKHS in Punjab- why?????
I'm a hindu.. Lekin maine khud ek sikh ke muh se suna tha...during 84...kuch hinduo ne unke ghr me guskr ek 6 maheene ke bache ko pressure cooker me daalkr whistle bajai thi..
@@themultiartist249 🤮😞😓
i also heard that hindus provoked by government killed so many Sikhs and burnt alive young Sikhs, their kids and elder people too but real Hindus who have strong believe in their religion never can't and didn't killed anyone but those sold out souls spreaded hate and killed lots of sikhs
@@themultiartist249 Har jagah ek hi comment bole ja rha hai.
Im 23 year old ...Just being true what i have felt that Sikh people has always get respected by every indian .... Their sacrifices lives on our heart... Whenever we remember about bhagat singh we give our whole gratitude to sikh community also!!❤❤
Real Sikh Don't Want Khalistan...Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akal ❤️🇮🇳
As a 8yr old child in 1984, being the only Sikh family in an apartment block of Hindus, I have vivid memories of a blood thirsty mob wanting my father, mother and us children. This was Mumbai 1984. Who dispersed the mob - Mumbai Police. I will never forget Balasaheb Thackerays for the protection he gave to Sikh areas in Mumbai. My maternal uncle was protected by his Hindu neighbors in Uttar Pradesh. Years later I met a Hindu gent from same village as us in Punjab. He escaped angry Sikh mob narrowly and never wants to go back to his birth place. It is only fair we share harrowing stories of Punjabi Hindus in 1984 Punjab.
I'm a hindu.. Lekin maine khud ek sikh ke muh se suna tha...during 84...kuch hinduo ne unke ghr me guskr ek 6 maheene ke bache ko pressure cooker me daalkr whistle bajai thi..
@The MultiArtist communal riots bring out the worst in humans. My issue is only Sikhs being made victims. I am a Sikh and I have heard so many stories from my people about busses being stopped in Punjab, profiling Hindus, and shooting them. Thousands of Hindus were killed in Punjab. Will they ever be acknowledged??
@@ranjana843 yes they got killed too... The only difference is.. Sikh didn't went to such extreme cruelty to kill hindus. It's like that salok. "kartoot pashu ki maanas jaat" "
@@themultiartist249 I disagree.
@@ranjana843 only 367 hindus were killed and 30k Sikhs There is no comparison what so ever even a large Hindu majourity gathered at the cremation of Tufan Singh the Militant He provided protection to Hindus
The Bramhins of Maharashtra faced the same trauma in 48 congress massacre! Forget sympathy, the issue is not even mentioned. But the community raised back its own losses, no one is asking for any sympathy, any reconciliation, no revenge! If many of the Sikhs think that they have the warrior spirit, forget about external validation, the community should internally pick up your own brethren like the other Sikhs serving in army, navy etc!
I am glad to see at least someone is talking about 48 Maharashtra massacre
Glad to see someone talking about that.. for Sikh dharam also the majority of sacrifice are done by mohiyal Brahmins..
Bilkul sahi,,,,but our singers,leaders,rukte hi nhi...😢😢
It’s not comparable.
@@japjeetmehton9921 why ? atleast you could have some points to support your claim
Sikh is not the only community which is victim. There are so many others like adivasi, dalit, pandits etc but this does not mean that separate homeland should be declared for every victim.
Muslims also suffered the same trauma as Sikhs..
@@shalimar1792they made everyone suffer they were not even part of India but they made chaos here
At the age of 17, I discovered that hinduism ans sikhism is different Thanks to my mom and dad
Well said Sikhs are lovers, poet, scholars who knows to fight & I add who knows to fight for Justice …. 🙏
*What about Killings of 38000 Hindus, 700+ Soldiers, 1300+ Punjab Police Jawans in Punjab & outside & destruction of 300+ temples after & BEFORE 1984 😔🙏*
@@radhe-sham yeh inn logon ki purani adat...jab sach dekna parey
@@radhe-sham it's the truth . Mate
I am from Maharashtra I am really sorry for what happened in 84....I studied at Sri Guru Gobind singhji college nanded...went to gurudwara many times the love Sikhs community has for humanity...I can't express this....the political party in 84 didn't handle things right...somehow it got hindu Sikh angle....really thankful for saving our national from invaders.... recently saw the movie KESARI it opened my eyes about what courage looks like
Why Sikhs are not gathering and protesting against Khalistanis?
"Justice is not just us" What a way to put it forward.... I am sorry for all that happened to Sikh brothers and sisters. We need all Sikhs to believe in Bharat... that is what I can say please 🙏🙏
I'm a sikh and i believe in India and love it with all my heart🙏
Proud Indian sikh....don't support khalistaan......Indian in core of my heart WAHEGURUJI KA KHALSA WAHEGURUJI KI FATEH.
Indian Sikh here brother love you. Jai Hind
Hahaha
But Hindu supporting hindurashtra??
@@phoenix2gaming346 sare hindu agar hindu rashtra banane lag gaye to 1 din me ban jaye Official Hindu rashtra
@@phoenix2gaming346 Jainsim,Buddhism and Sikhism is all part of Hindu dharm so don't differentiate Sikhs from Hindu we all are same.
Great video👍 as an Australia 🇦🇺 I never knew this about Sikhs, hopefully you will do more content with more Sikhs in the future 👍
India is saved by sikhs. In army and all. Sikhs are our dearest brothers sisters and friends.
Hey Ranveer, thank you from bottom of my heart. Please do more shows about Sikh and Sikh culture. The world needs to know that even in this 21st century Sikhs are still fighting for Justice for others all over the world in all walks of life. We as people are very Grateful.❤
1984 riots is not a reason for you guys to disrespect our National flag & attack 300 unarmed police officers with swords by hiding behind so-called farmers protest. How come SC/ST Sikhs in Punjab are attacked & killed by other sikhs for keeping Guru Grant Saheb in their house? Is that what Guru Nanak ji taught you? Also, is it right to kill a 13 year old kid under the pretext of blasphemy that too inside the gurudwara? 1984 riots were horrible but you are blaming the wrong people for it. The truth is you are following Pakistani ISI's Sikhism & not Guru Nanak ji's Sikhism.
And vis a vis sikhs are taking away justice from others like hindus in punjab..
BS
What justice?
@@S7evn201 first of all farmer protest was done in Punjab for 6 months and there was no conflict with police but when hindu from political parties dressed as police officers starts doing lathi charge on Sikhs what you expect Sikhs to do give me a single protest in which the protesters fed the needy for a year Hindus burnt public property in sport of a BJP mla who was punished by supreme court for asking sexual favor on tape but Sikhs who didn't burnt any buses and fed people for a year are still bad but Hindus can burn India to support rapist and they are deshbhakts stop this stupidity
I'm khatri panjabi from Delhi. I loved our sikhs brothers and sisters. I am always ready to sacrifice my life for this beautiful community. Bond between in delhi between khatris hindus and sikhs is unbreakable. It's our moral duty to protect our sikhs brothers and sisters at any cost. Also we shared same gotras in our name. And mostly hindus khatris are Nanakpanthis and half sikhs by religious wise.❤
You are Nanakpanthi Khatri? Because I am
@@unknownmaster5078 Bro I believe in both sanatan dharma and Sikhism. Mostly khatri's follow both religion.
Ranveer awesome forum to bring such eminent personalities to share their thoughts and so much of insight we get to see all sides of the coin
Thank you for sharing. I close my eye listen the entire conversation. ❤thnku once again
Hindu's of Punjab suffered extreme consequences due to Bhindrawala and the militants. Hindu women were kidnapped, raped and killed for revenge. They used to deliberately kill hindu families. People used to live in terror. Anybody who doesn't know this needs to get a life.
Wohi toh wo wala part toh ye bhul jate hain . Ya bhulwana chahte hai
It was the police and their cats. atrocities on Panjabi hindus was a must to keep fueling their propaganda. Because if hindus ware safe how govt. can display that stat is in chaos??
Please tell us the particular incidents..if there were any...
@@JaspreetSingh-ff5xm LOL..Read Wikipedia..
@@nil.nilesh56 is that your answer to life, read wikipedia ROFL anyone can write articles in wiki
Your interview skills are the best ever. Bright, sensitive, care, intelligent, loving. God bless you Ranveer. Great show . Keep going. Love you.
ਤੈਰੇ ਜਿਹਾ ਤੋਂ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਸਲਾਹ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨੀ ਆਪਣੀ ਧੋਤੀ ਬੋਦੀ ਤਾ ਸਮਾਲ ਨੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਚਲੇ ਖਾਲਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਸਲਾਹ ਦੇਣ
I am dead against Khalistan but its shameful what the government did to Sikhs in 1984.
Story of baba deep Singh ji always gives me goosebumps
Im really sorry for what has happened to Sikh community. No one can quantify what someone has gone through, but I hope this wouldn't not turn into something that hurts everyone.
Can't imagine India without Sikh community....😢
Kuch bhi
I am 66 years old from Mysore, Karnataka. We grow up listening to the stories of courage and sacrifice of Sikhs from our parents. I have deep sense of pride in my heart. I do not know where from this dislike for Sikhs stems from !,
Amazing interview, these days we don’t see this type of conversations with Sikhs by any famous KZheadr. We appreciate you for sharing this . 🙏🙏🙏
Of course no one can imagine India without our reverend Sikh Gurus and our Sikh brothers and sisters. Salute to you Paaji for being so honest and outspoken. Undoubtedly 1984 wasn't a Sikh Hindu riot. It was a political genocide inflicted upon our Sikh community by a political party. 🙏🙏
What a Shame that 19000 innocent hindus were killed by extremist Khalistani Sikhs and no one mentions them. PM Indira Gandhi was killed by Sikhs. Sikhs planned an unnecessary partition of India. Hated hindus for no reason. Hated India which gave them more than others for no reason. Sikhs opened fire on Indian Army which they were coming to capture Bhindranwale. Yet this Sikh community is just acting like a victim and abusing hindus till date which treated them like brother and gave Sikh community their eldest sons. Siding with Islamists and jihadi. Shameless and thankless they are. The most wanted criminals of India won't burn India's flag but Sikh community doesn't think twice about it. And he is saying Sikhs do not hate India. Congress was in power that time but they abuse Modi and BJP. Cos they simply hate hindus. Let's not fall in this sugar coated sentences of this podcast and accept the facts. For them Amritpal is a Sikh Soldier. And Hindus have this bad habit of falling in such traps. Those who think Sikhs saved Hindus. Need to go back to proper history and check. Hindus saved themselves. Like they save themselves even till today. Modi arrested the main culprits of 1984 and gave CAA rights to Sikhs.. Still thankless.
Exactly
@@LovepreetSingh-vx4hiall of us hindus accept that tho. Only uneducated hindus will deny that it was a governmental genocide which is were always apologetic to yall
my deep respect for the Sikh community 🙏🙏. we are blessed to be in their company
congress made mess of this country😡. Man now I hate congress more than ever.
And what did BJP do, then when did not BJP give us the justice, bca the ruling party was no doubt congress, but BJP was the one doing behind the screen
@@allroundedwarriors9885 bjp is allied with R. S. S. And i do not hate B. J. P. has a sikh But do not like his alliance R. S. S. has a punjabi Because R. S. S. was the one because of which our Punjab was struggling to set punjabi has Punjab official language in Punjab initial day's R. S. S. slogan was " hum hindu hai, hindi basha hai" hindustaan kii" Hor R. S. S. ne kyukii iismay dharm hindu bee add kar diya tha tooh bahut punjabi-hindu ne apnii language punjabi nhi set kii but hindi kar lii 💔 Maa bholi say dhokebaazi kii Because of which many punjabi speaking district is in haryana and Himachal now days
@@papa63402 it's the RSS who saved sikhs in 1984 massacre and it is the RSS who has reconverted people back to Sikhism from Christianity
@@papa63402Wrong Information 🤦🏻♂️
@@Kim_jong_un_the_devil may bhol raha hoon has punjabi i don't like R. S. S. not has a sikh And convert lower caste ke log ho rahe hai christian may (sikh religion body may caste system nhi hai but aabi tak casteism ka prabhaav hai village level may) Hor bro 🤜 Sab kooch challega convert hojaye jisko hona ho 😉 lekin dhoka nhii challega Has a sikh i have negligible hate with R. S. S. But has a punjabi i don't like R. S. S. (Agar R. S. S. Punjab may punjabi language ke liye hate naa karta tooh kabii k-sthan* ko support milta hii nahi) At the end mujhe lagta hai hindu-sikh may unity thii Partition say pehle wo R S. S. ne thod dii little bit 🤏💔 Has a sikh meri maa punjabi hai hor agar meri maa ko respect nhi kar sakte tooh sikh ko kya karoge Pehle hindu sikh pagg wat pra te (hor rahenge but R. S. S. ko maafi maangni padegii) Pagg wat pra means hindu sikh were two brothers sharing same turban 👳♥️
I am proud of my sikh community. Waheguruji ka Khalsa , waheguru ji ki fateh.
Whole India is proud of sikh community . Jai SiyaaRam Jai Anjaneya Jai Maa Ambe Wahe Guruji Da Khalsa Wahe Guruji Di Fateh.
@@TheB657 laanat hai tujh pe. Tujhe sirf woh dikhta hai jo sikho ne hume bachaya. Jo yeh hamare devi-devtao ki beadbi karte hai woh nahi dikhta tujhe🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡search karke dekh youtube par
@@aliveindian7208 bhai tum bhi toh karte ho, sabhi dharam ke log karte hai itni nafrat hai toh samne aake lad le
@@harmandeepsingh9057 aja tu hum 120 Crore tum sikh sirf 5 Crore. Ladai toh tum se hogi jo karna hai karlo🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡
@@harmandeepsingh9057 Sorry. Sanatani kisi ka nafrat nhi karte. Tum log hi zyada tar krte ho.
I'm a proud Hindu Punjabi.. Waheguru ji da Khalsa, Waheguruji di fateh❤...Jai shree Ram❤
Thank you TRS Clips for getting a Sikh perspective on this issue/topic. Most media groups are too scared to even set up an interview. It’s so sad how manipulated most Indian media is.
I am really sorry for what the Sikh community has gone through. Similar genocide happened with the Kashmiri Hindus. In my opinion we must protest against the Congress government who never validated or acknowledged the happening of any incidences. Why make a different religion/ country of one of the most treasured community whose contribution to India is beyond recognition. Let's stay together and fight against the real culprits 😊
You can't compare bro
but he didn't even touch the topic How hundreds of Hindus were killed and lakhs forced to flee Punjab due to Sikh Terrorism...our neighbours relative also forced to run away from Punjab at that time and they stayed in our village for long time. how Sikh Terrorist used to abduct girls and sexually harass them and how they made the Harmandir Sahib their safe sanctuary whr dy used to do all sorts of immoral and illegal things. yet no sikh call out those sikh terrorist rather defend them and justify or simply reject the atrocities on Hindus just like muslims do when it comes to Hindus in Kashmir. this is where problem lies as they don't want to accept their mistake but want others to apologise.
@@Ds-oj5pystop spreading fake information...do you have any proof? Just tell me the video? I'm Hindu as per I heard from news channels not a single Hindu killed by Sikh , one Hindu was killed who was saving Sikhs from the mob.
@@Ds-oj5pyplease give proof in Sikhs doing whatever you said
I am very thankful to you both guys to Conway our Sikh community message to everyone, really appreciated sir , we are love to everyone we respect to all …..😢😢 but India not give us justice we still struggling… Waheguru only help us
Sikhs never got justice for the riots which followed after Indira Gandhi's death. There was a deliberate campaign of terror across (mostly North) India to terrorize Sikhs and "teach them a lesson". None of the murderers or the instigators ever went to jail or even brought to trails. We Indians talk a big game like bad shit doesn't happen in India and pogroms and mass killings only happen in other countries. But we need to look inwards at ourselves and hang our heads in shame. For all that Sikhs have done for India, we screwed them over by not giving justice to the victims. It is a blot on India and I have no hesitation in stating that. All right thinking folks should demand, even today, justice for the Sikhs who were the victims of atrocities done to them, esp in New Delhi. I have close friends who are Sikhs and when I hear to stories of what happened to their families and the terror they faced, it is terrible. Not surprised that some Sikhs want Khalistan - we the silent majority pushed them towards that unfortunately.
Sikh refuses to condemn the attack on Air India Flight 182, which killed 329 people on June 23, 1985, is considered the worst air terrorist attack ever.
I love and respect Sikh community people of my India. I'm from south and I went to Golden temple once. This man who looked so big, he came to me while I was struggling to wear the cloth on my head to cover hair before entering the temple. I got scared when he came to me, but man, he might have looked so big and strong but he was a very kind person. I got overwhelmed by the feeling of gratitude. I never forgot him even after more than 13 years or so. I don't want to lose this precious community from India. They are such pure hearted people. Things in the past have hurt them, I hope things get sorted, people take responsibility and genuinely protect them. They are our people. I will always respect and love them. Thank you uncle. Idk if you will ever see this message but you really made me believe in humanity again. I love you! ❤ May God bless you always!
What happened with Sikhs in 1984 is brutal and unacceptable. But Khalistaan issue is prior to that. Ignited by external forces, if I am not mistaken.
Very true .... external forces along with some anti-national groups were behind the creation of the idea of khalistan , much much before 1984 !! We too know that the Khalistanis neither represent the whole of the Sikh community nor do they follow the Sikhi ....but to say that the idea of khalistan was conceived only after 1984 is not acceptable according to the records!! The then congress government just picked up opportunity to make the prevailing idea to a full blown label and the rest is history....
Yeah right. But most of the people don't know about it.
@@bananidaskhakhlari5377 Khalistan demanded by Dr Jagjit Singh Chauhan in 70's never got any traction until after 1984. Prior to 1984, Sikhs demanded Anandpur Resolution
Summary: It was a "no one cares" thing before 1984. Media and all anti-Sikh forces continued to shove it down the throat of Sikhs who simply asked for Anandpur Resolution and their other rights. Post 1984, it became a knee jerk reaction thing. Just like if we falsely keep accusing and torturing an innocent person about being a thief, eventually he says "fine, let me be a thief for real now". I hope this perspective makes it clear?
@@bananidaskhakhlari5377 disagree with your whole false narrative. The other guy @BhajanMan has put it very clearly.
It is great to see some constructive discussion about this topic after a very long time.
Very disturbing and terrible not only for the Sikhs but the entire country. As a South Indian I feel very disturbed by what has happened and try avoiding thinking about it. Feel very sad for them. Sikhs are a respected lot always and still being done. 1984 violence was a pure political violence and the people involved should not be spared at whichever level they are in, however powerful they are.
i understand your pain - but a lot of hindus also went thru the same pain as you. pls bring a hindu on the program that lost a family member as well. So hindus and sikhs both lost a lot. Both communities are fully indians. We are all one nation and will remain one. Jai Hind.
True, but lets not belittle the trauma by saying that hindus also suffered. of course it is indians who suffered because of the politics of the day from the congress, from the political leadership of the Akalis of those days and such. All these were making of the politicians, it takes time for healing and it is probably high time that we indians should address these greivances which will help heal at least something.
Hindus suffered only 10% Sikhs suffered 90 % only in taran taarn district 10 thousands Sikhs killed by police can you tell us same heppan to Hindus anywhere? we love Hindu brothers
@Self Believe, I think you're misjudging the timelines here, Sikhism was born very recently out of Hinduism & prior to that it was Hindus who were constantly under Islamic onslaught! Be it from the days of Delhi Sultanate - from Aibak to Khiljis to Tuglaqs to Lodis & later on Mughals, to slave trade Hindu Kush to fairly 700 years of persecution of Kashmiri hindus and how about Konkani Brahmins who were killed along the same lines as in 1984 by the Congress itself! (Just not clearly reported, doesn't make it any less of an autoctity). Should I remind of Mopilah? Or Noakhali? Or Operation Searchlight in Bangladesh? You look around and you'd see two countries carved out just so they couldn't stand Pegan Hindus signts. Do I need to remind you that Sikhis and Advaita vedanta similarity and how Sanatana Shastra are core to Sikhism because of the Hindu origin of it? We all are intially persecuted because we stood for our Dharma and the Abrahamics are still on to us. The difference is that Gurus don't see Hindus as different units but a sect along with it. And the present, so called youth, due to identity politcs wish to make difference out of everything just to feel unique.
@@selfbelieve3485 Havent you heard what happened in Kashmir? sikhs cant even imagine what Kashmiri pandits went through if you say hindus suffered only 10 % of sikhs
@river. yes I know very well we sikhs can feel same pain
Wonderful job Ranveer! As I watch 2 intellectual minds have this conversation, I am filled with gratitude towards you. You’ve done your research and based on that you’ve presented your personal view. That takes courage! As we all present our views in the comment section, the way we present shows the foundation of our values. Let’s be careful who we let influence us🙏
The real gratitude for Sikh community were felt by the Punjabi Hindus who came to India after partition .... when trains full of massacred Hindu & Sikhs bodies came to Amritsar from Lahore - "Hindustan ke liye tohfa" . They used to say -- - "If Sardars would not be there not a single Hindu family would migrate to India alive ...." .
What a beautiful soul is this man. . He should be the coordinator and we should all support
Wow! I have to say, I learnt a lot from this video! And I understand the injustice that the Sikhs have faced after all the vital contributions they made for India's freedom struggle. But let's not forget that the root cause of this violence was the poor leadership from the Congress Government at the time which is not in power anymore. And this was not the case only with the Sikhs: another very prominent religion in Kashmir was targeted and wiped out for their beliefs by a so called 'peaceful community' under the leadership of the Congress Government. This loss hasn't been reconciled either and we have learned to live with it and also learned from our mistakes. So, I encourage the Hindu and Sikh community to not be diverted by certain attempts by other divisive groups. It is all a plot to make us relive our past misery.
@@sagararora8694 Ek Puneet sahni kya btaega jo bhugatbhogi h vo samne baitha bta rha h, reports dekh lo, history dekh lo, pta ni kse log ho bhai tumhare ander emotions he nhi bche h, aajkl to Lawrence ko ve yodha bna rhye h kuch vaahiyaat log to kya ab usko be maan lo ge, disgusting!
@@sagararora8694 I understand the point you are trying to make. But let’s not forget the historical sacrifices that the Sikh community had made. As the gentleman said, we might not have survived if they never originated. Besides, there is no concrete evidence showing that ‘all’ Sikhs are connected to the ISI. We can, if we go by your logic, link every religious group with terrorists. I’m sure there are many Hindus who were convicted for their connections with terrorist groups. But clearly that doesn’t mean that all Hindus should be persecuted in their own country.
@Rohit K .... Its all misconception created to please sikhs. The dominance of sikhs never trespassed beyond punjab. So how hindus from south and east maintained their faith ??? It's all a propaganda to fool the weaklings like you ... 😀😀😀😀.. we survived because of our own bravery and sacrifices.
@@riskykaze might not have survived? Lol. Pathetic. Ever heard of marathas and rajputs. Everyone did their bit. This constant brown nosing is the problem. The 'they saved us' crap is an old british policy of divide and rule and immascalate hindus. Sadly so many so called hindus still are clueless about their own history
@@sagararora8694 Puneet Sahani trys to justyfy the killing of bluestar hes reall biased to towards the right wing of Hindutva
Sikh guy should have listed out all the issues one by one. Ranveer kudos, thanks for consistently asking him the question again n again that what actually happened but still sardarji didnt really let it out fully. I wish sardarji clearly mentioned about the promises, the betrayals, the dera cult politicization and drugs pumped in. I am sure listeners are cool and understanding and they would want more information about who actually sikhs are, what meeri peeri is
You shouldn't expect him to let it out. , no one wants to remember it again
Exactly
Ranveer was doing a commendable job by repeatedly asking for the proper context of the incidences,but it seemed that the honourable guest deliberately avoided giving the full and proper context ......at some point it seemed like he was fantasizing the story that a few Mughal rulers( ?) had gone to visit "OUR GURUS" in jail and that should be a thing to be glorified??
@@obergruppenfuhrer- If he agreed to come on a podcast or platform to discuss the Khalisthani issue he should have elaborated on the ordeal and promises fully instead of letting people hanging by the thread, at least the listeners would have been fully aware of it.
@@BooO0oOoOoOooOoOoyah there was a podcast few weeks back with a sikh who was RAW officer at that time. Watch that, he explains everything
We were very young in 84 , when this happened but one question has always bothered me , Sikhs always Blame the Then PM for attacking the Golden Temple... but I've never heard anyone ever ask how did so many weapons and bombs enter The Gurudwara... what were Bhindranwale and Gen Shahbeg Singh doing inside and why Bhindranwales Taking over the Akal Takht not outrage the Sikhs? There were enough weapons inside to hold the Indian Army for 2 days.. why are the Sikhs not offended by this and what would they expect a government to do ? Did they not know and realise that such weapons couldn't have come in Without the help of Pakistan ? My question being that the Sikh community was offended by the Indian Army entering but were they not offended and hurt by what Bhindranwale and gang were doing inside their holy place in complete conduit of Pakistan in an attempt to break India ? I would really like to know this ...
Indira was dumb to send in the Army. It gave the Khalistanis martyrs. Correct response would have been to surround the place and starve them out.
Iam tamilian, who value sikh community and their contribution to India. I am truly sorry for all the wrong that has happened to you all, but you are part of India, please know that there are so many Indians who really repent for the past wrongs
Thanks for this Ranveer, please invite Sukhpreet Singh Udoke as well if you wanna know more about historical events; he's super interesting and an encyclopedia
He's nobody check on KZhead when he get caught with other women what a low life scum uddoke is
Haan bhai echo chamber banalo 🤣🤣
Yes... I know him.. He's a great historian.
His page is blocked by endian gobar government
Udhoke jooth bolda aa. Sikh de roop vich sapp hai o.
I am the owner of Khalsa Website Designers and I want to thank the team who brings knowledgeable people on their platform.
To all my Sikh friends, I have a very deep respect for your religion and community. There are many instances when the community has contributed to the betterment of India and we will always be grateful and proud of Sikhs.
Sikh massacre in 1984 was a black moment in Indian history. The party responsible for it is not saying apology to the Sikh community till date and remedies and relief not given. We must apologise to them. Legal battle are not coming to end . But,I have a question about electing the accused Congress government in Punjab again and again. I can't understand that. 😢
To understand that you have to understand politics of Punjab… that’s a complex topic.
State machinery was used to kill systematically - it is not just a party affair anymore
Why would I apologize? Where is the apology for Hindu genocide in Punjab? Our lives don't matter?
@Murugesan Jegannathan Sir your question has an assumption that all of Punjab population is Sikh. Please have a look at census statistics of the state. Further, as one brother has already said, the political history of the state has been (and still is) complex. The typical polar votebank phenomenon doesn't apply to the state of Punjab.
Sikhs always talk about 1984 riots. It was wrong and should not have happened. But it was not Hindu Sikh riot. It was clearly done by Congress and lead by someone who is a known Christian- it was not a Christian - Sikh riot either. Every human life is precious. What about 35000 Hindus killed in Indian Punjab during decade of 1980-90? Why don't we ever talk about that? Binderwala and his goons removed Hindus from groups and killed all Hindus and not Sikhs and muslims. The count of 35000 includes kids and women too. Why is it that Hindu life is so cheap? While Hindus were killed in Punjab - NO SINGLE SIKH WAS EVEN TOUCHED OUTSIDE PUNJAB except when Indira Gandhi was killed. I never see anyone talk about the Hindu killings by SIKHS in Punjab- why?????