10 Critical Rules All Sheep and Goat Producers Must Follow: Avoid Unnecessary Sickness and Death!
10 Critical Rules All Sheep and Goat Producers Must Follow: Avoid Unnecessary Sickness and Death! In this video, Tim talks to us about the 10 basic rules all sheep and goat producers must follow to avoid unnecessary illness and deaths. Regardless of the size of your flock, these rules are very important!
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Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos! There's so much bad information out there. I love your straightforward approach.
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My main thing when consulting others who are trying to start or improve their sheep operations. I specialize in feed. We started with piles of hay…then I welded up all manner of ‘perfect feeders’ that metered the hay and slowed waste. I watched their Summer feeding behavior and realized that they prefer to graze over 10 or more hours and balance their intake and rumen. After six different styles of feeder and thousands of dollars in steel and lumber I have settled on grazing only in the Spring, Summer, Fall and then I make sure they can graze exactly the same way during the Winter! I found large sewn webbing bags that are made for horses. They have 1-3/4” holes between the one inch webbing and I shred out the bales to a mixture of 12-14% protein and legumes and grass hay. I fill these bags and the sheep graze by pulling the hay out slowly throughout the day for the same 10-12 hours per day that they do in the Summer time. This has reduced waste to 5% from almost 40%, reduced worm load, coccidia, pink eye and bloat by 100% this first year (yes we vaccinate, medicate and deworm) that we have done it. I have two barns and run one with and one without the bags and have become absolutely convinced they are the answer to many of the Winter illness problems. I now sell these bag and take them on a display to every auction and fair we attend. I am a total grazing evangelist!
That’s awesome!
Thanks for the info
Thank you, Liz!
Very helpful, teaching with conviction
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Such great info, and thanks for all of your videos and the work that you do. Totally agree with bottle baby topic. Best to not make a lamb become a bottle baby. When it does happen for legit reasons it is HARD work. I also advocate (where possible) to become as hands on with your animals as possible. Definitely achievable for small holdings, not so much for large producers (I get it) but it's so much better for the animals and the farmer/owner. Makes it so much easier when you need to tend to them because everyone is much more relaxed and used to being handled.
Thanks for watching the videos and taking the time to leave us a comment. We appreciate it! You are correct. Calm animals are healthier!
I love this, I handle them alot, even though I only have 8 of them, our first who wasn't handled, is so hard to deal with when she gets sick 😂😂
The more i see the more i learn from you. Thank you very much for making these informative videos.
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Great video Tim. Thank you for taking the time to make it. Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks, Kenneth. Best wishes to you and your family this Thanksgiving!
This is really helpful, full of wonderful advise for those wishing to go commercial
Thank you so much! ❤
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So helpful for a newbie. Thank you!
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Excellent video, thank you!
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Great video. Thanks
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Really appreciate your programs. Very helpful. Thanks
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Thank You. Just happened onto your channel and couldn't agree more with your 10 Critical Rules.
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I dam raise mine . I don’t have the heart to do that . I leave mine with their moms unless she can’t feed them . My husband fights me over grain . He says they don’t need it lol I feed mine browse , hay , and grain . That is how I raise mine and I am sticking to it .
Thank you so very much for making this experience real❤ I definitely am subscribed to you!
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Love your videos! Agree 100% with everything ✔
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Aaaamen. 💯 Agreed. Thank you. God bless.
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I agree with you on the chemical wormers, as much as I am against any kind of allopathic medicine. Have you tried Molly's Herbals? Her worm formula is AMAZING, I used to buy it for my chickens, and it even works for cocci in chicks! It's just SO expensive for me being in Canada, so I have the chemical wormers on hand now while I grow the ingredients for Molly's formula myself.
Hello! I have not tried any purchasable herbal mixes but I will check this out. Thank you for the idea and thank you for taking the time to leave a message.
Thank you for your honest advice. I'm learning so much from you.
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I always learn so much from your videos, and share them with friends who have sheep and goats. Thank you for sharing your great knowledge with us.
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Very good advice
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I'm antivaxx, but... I understand and agree! There are maybe only a couple/few things I will/would vaxx for... same does with pharmaceuticals. I add herbal supplements to my goats feed, I test them once a quarter. I use pharmaceuticals if needed when needed.
Too much of anything can be a bad thing. Do the best you can without the meds and save them for the worst case scenario. As you stated, there are a lot of plants that can help a lot when it comes to overall health.
Very good points! I hear Dairy goat farms that pull babies after they get the colostrum they need from Mom, routinely, at 24 to 48 hours. It never seemed right for me! I just couldn’t do it. Watching a Mom go thru labor, give birth, clean and nurse the baby to grab it away seems to selfish on the owner’s part to me but it works for their business model! I just couldn’t do it.
We understand as well but we couldn’t do it either.
Most older goats have enough milk for you and kids. I never pulled them completely off
Thank you for this very informative video , I have just a few goats and always want what is best for them so Thanks again x x
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Best one I’ve ever heard on utube. Well done 👍 Been in goat since 10 years old and learned from Dad in West Texas
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Thanks for this information. I am going to start giving my bucks grain. My does already receive it.
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Could you share your hay feeder plans?
Sure. We really need to make a video on how to make one. I’ve had lots of requests but I’ve been putting it off due to high lumber prices. I suppose we can make one and give it away. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. We appreciate you watching our videos and taking the time to send us a message.
I had a mother died from bloat and I almost put her lamb on the bottle but I was watching her closely and then noticed she was stealing milk from the other mother's for a day or two then one adopted her and she is doing just fine now.
That’s great. You got lucky with that one for sure! Sorry to hear about you losing the mother.
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Another thing they can get it their house doesn't breathe, is pink eye I don't use heat lamps. However, however; I would use one for nannies who just gave birth. The 1st week after birth is the most crucial. That the time you have to keep an eye on them the most.
The first week of life is definitely when you will see a lot of problems.
It's when the babies are most sensitive. You also have to make sure they font get squished. I've lost more babies from other goats laying on them and squishing them. I don't have a separate birthing house or yard yet, but I'm working on that. Right now, I font have any bucks, so I have a little more time. This year or next, I'll have separate birthing houses and yards.
Thank you for your video. I'm new to raising goats I've lost 4 and been overly protective of the other ones I do vaccinate with cte, pneumonia and ivermectin when needed . I built a barn but need to start letting them get cold it is vented and dry but I'm still in the process of building there yard
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Wet goats are dead goats Barn is a must and checking for worms a weekly thing Study warning signs for worms please
Agree with all 10.5 points 😂 The bottle baby one is tough in our genre of animals, but as someone who’s lost more than we’ve raised - avoid at all costs.
Bottle babies are tough for anyone. For people who have never done it, most are setting themselves up for a big disappointment.
I agree with a lot of what you say, never feed on the ground, have wormer and antibiotic on hand and know when to use them, never pull healthy kid off healthy mom (never understood unnecessary bottle feeding). I'm not convinced about feeding grain. I do feed a small amount to my bucks so they will come to a feed bucket, but I don't really use it for my does. I have one doe that seems to have condition issues and I am debating on culling her. Except for during the winter my goats free range on browse.
Hello. Every farm is different and you will just have to see what works for you. If you are able to meet your nutritional needs without grain, I would do it. Attempting to keep a farm profitable can be difficult when adding different feeds to the mix. In the end, many farms can pick and choose which livestock they keep, which can help to eliminate those animals that might need additional feed such as grain. For those out there raising club lambs, market lambs, market goats, show animals, etc... this can be more difficult. When it comes to market animals, I still think you can pull it off without grain but you are trading time. In the end, gather information and do what's best for your situation. Beware of people offering simple fixes for complex problems.
@@LinessaFarms It has been an on going struggle to strike the right balance between input and output. The ideal is as little input as possible. I still feel I have more input than I would like. If I'm putting more money into feeding grain (especially with today's prices), that's fewer dollars in my pocket at the end of the day. But I am still learning, watching my little herd, looking for the right genetics to add to my herd, etc.
Thanks for another great video!!! At age do you start feeding the lambs grains? What grains do you suggest and how much? Is it OK to feed them cracked corn and how much? What do you think about 12% All Stock Pelleted Feed and how much to feed them? Have a wonderful Thanks Giving day!!! Thanks you
Hello, CLC. We start offering free choice creep feed at birth. Lambs and goat kids seem to go after mini-pellets or texturized feed a little faster than full size pellets. Many of the old-timers would use soy bean meal to help lure the babies into eating the creep feed. Years ago, before commercialized feed, the farmers would frequently use a cracked corn and soybean meal mixed feed. I personally feel there are better options available now. My advise to you would be to feed the highest protein percentage (up to 20% but not over) feed you can reasonably afford. Finding a feed balanced for the animal species is important as well. We aren’t against 12 percent feed but you will need to be cautious and check it’s calcium to phosphorus ratio. To determine if it has at least twice as much calcium as phosphorus. Calcium and phosphorus ratios are important because if they are off, it can lead to urinary calculi in castrated and intact males. Corn itself does not have enough nutritional value to work as a good creep feed.
On the topic of chemical dewormers: my doe would not have survived without them. She contracted menigennial worms from our pasture. After five day treatment of safeguard and hand watering electrolyte water she recovered. But without safeguard, she definitely would have died. I'm not one to overuse medicines, I don't want them to become ineffective, but medicine has it's place. Moderation in all things.
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You were pretty clear when you said "feed hay everyday" but sometimes I overthink it.. With that being said😉 Is pasture forage and browse in summer sufficient to produce the saliva and keep the rumen right, or should we be offering dry hay then as well to help balance things? I consider you to be my go to goat guy. You have taught me so much about goats, and sheep. For whatever reason, you make me trust a stranger on the internet for my pertinent animal info😆 Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving to you, your family, and friends. I hope it's a wonderful day.
Hello to the Bakers! Yes, pasture counts for your roughage/hay consumption. The cud chewing process of roughage consumption produces lots of saliva (I used to know how much and it was something unbelievable). The saliva is the key to the rumen health for the animals. Because the saliva pH is high, it helps to buffer the rumen acidity. This is why we see so many problems with show stock and 4H animals who have been fed really high levels of grain and little to no hay. Their rumen gets over acidified and damaged. You don’t need to worry about it being dry hay vs. wet hay/fresh. When considering bloat… the fresh increases risk for bloat slightly over dry but that’s another story.
@@LinessaFarms Thank you for clearing that up.
The best ever
Thank you sir!
You look cold! We had a heat wave in Iowa today. Middle 50's
Hey, Jeff! For sure… it was in the 30’s but the wind was really whipping. Hopefully we get some of your warm weather our way in the next few days. 😬 Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!
Absolutely love your videos! I follow most of your procedures but have not done the CDT? I've only had goats now for 3 years, can I start this CDT? I've heard you do 1 then booster then 1 per year? Is it to late for me?
Hi, Melissa. It’s never too late to start and we would advise you start now! Tetanus is everywhere. It lives in the soil and is naturally occurring in the environment. Directions are on the bottle but you are correct. 1 initial shot followed by a booster two weeks later and then one annual shot after that.
A healthy goat is a happy goat!
That is for sure!
Last yr. We bought our vaccines from a local farm store and we believe they were bad , not kept cold , and I lost so many of my herd in the thousands of dollars before we figured out what was happening . I lost aroundc10 goats in all .
Holy smokes! That is awful. We actually add a pinch of penicillin to our CDT bottles once accessed to protect them. Unfortunately, I once accidentally left a bottle of CDT outside in the summer (it was brand new) and had to toss it. It really stinks but as you stated, there is no point in giving medication that doesn’t work.
Hi Tim. My apologies for so many questions. I'm new at this. How close to lambing are pregnant ewes when their udders are swelling and their vulva area is getting larger and pink looking? Thanks
Most ewes will start bagging out about 3 weeks prior to lambing. There are exceptions but that’s a good rule of thumb. Vulva will start looking larger and red/swollen about a week out. Again, they are all different.
I can see why large dairy farms have to pull kids, there'd be no milk left if they didn't! Hahaha....Dairy Goats are totally different than meat goats, they require more grain too. I personally do some of both bottle kids and dam raised. I generally pull kids (if I am going to) on overnites after a few weeks and do a milk share with the kids . The dam raised are weaned at 12 to 16 weeks if they are being sold, but keeper breeders get a bottle for a lot longer ;) Depends on the situation. However they are all fed goats milk not replacer. Btw, I'm not a bad person ;) and my goats are very healthy! Good video, thanks for sharing. I appreciate all the info!
Thanks for leaving us a message and for watching the video. We understand milk operations have to pull kids. Hard to get milk without doing so. We unfortunately see people pull lambs and goats from moms because people want to bring them in their house and treat them like dogs. We bottle some ourselves, as long as you know what you’re doing for mom and baby, it’s usually fine. I think this is more of an advanced option for experienced livestock handlers. As you know, bloat, mastitis, and feed are all something that has to be managed appropriately for anyone running a dairy operation. 👍🏻
@@LinessaFarms Agreed. I am not a fan of house goats. I know exactly the type of people you are talking about.
Does fodder count? I live in Nevada high dessert, lots of sage brush but it's not enough. So we have hay in a hay bag. Hay is super expensive, this is our first week trying fodder.
Hello! Thanks for watching our videos. What kind of fodder? I think it should be ok. It’s the chewing that helps get the rumen cooking we just don’t want people eliminating roughage and going all pellets. Technically speaking (don’t do this) you could feed all grain and spray down some straw with molasses to get them to eat it and it would “work”. That would be a hard up way to go, but just trying to give you an example. We know hay is sky high! Some of our friends in West Texas are paying close to $200 for a large round bale now! Thanks again for watching our channel. We hope you have a good experience dealing with us and if you need anything, please ask. We have a Facebook group called Linessa Farms Tack Box you can join for free and meet up with other goat and sheep folks and ask questions. 👍🏻
Do you feed hay in the spring and summer when the grass is lush? I’ve been enjoying your videos. I’ve had goats for years but just now getting into sheep.
If they are on good pasture this shouldn’t be an issue. If we are running sheep and goats in tree lines or situations without much grass, we will throw them about a fist full of hay per head per day to keep the rumen cooking along. 👍🏻
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What are those specific grains to rely on
Corn, soybeans. These are the most common, here in the US
@@LinessaFarms we have them as well in Uganda, I get to use of them
Do you still recommend grain for animals that aren't going to butcher? We are getting a couple jacobs to be lawn ornaments haha
I think it comes in handy as a growth supporter from birth to maturity. It can also serve well as a vehicle to deliver adequate nutrition (think required vitamins and minerals). Do you “have to feed grain”? No. If you choose not to, we would ask you to consider a complete mineral with vitamins. So long as they are getting what they need, how they get it isn’t as important. Thanks for watching!
@@LinessaFarms thanks for this! I was planning to feed hay/grass depending on the season, alfalfa pellets as treats and a salt/mineral block but I'll definitely look into grain too. I'll see what the breeder does and go from there.
Hello Linessa Farm! Could you suggest to urinary stone prevention for gelding buck goats? The cleared rainwater better for him like well water to drink? I can give them or need/feedeng some medicinal product for prevention? thank you very much, wishing you all the best: Laszlo
Hello! Keeping up their calcium intake is important. You will want to maintain a 2 to 1 calcium to phosphorus ratio to prevent urinary calculi. Pay attention to your feed and see if you can avoid high phosphorus feeds. Rain water will be better, especially if you have high iron content in your well water. High iron can hurt the dietary uptake of calcium. If you need a cheap form of calcium, see if you can find crushed limestone. Here in the states we refer to it as barn lime.
O.k. ! Gratefull thanks! Syncerely: Laszlo
Have your water tested and your soil
Hi Tim. At what age do you wean the lambs? Thanks
Hello. If they are bottle babies, as soon as possible, like 45 days. For normal kiddos and lambs, we say no earlier than 6 weeks. If you have huge bagged mommas and they are keeping good condition, you can go out as far as 12 weeks. We believe letting the babies milk mom out longer and natural milk reduction helps to keep bags better and helps to ward off mastitis.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks, Tim.
Heat lamps , for new borns are the worst mistake a person can make in my opinion.
People need to be extremely cautious with heat lamps and make sure they get good enclosed ones. Only using them when necessary due to cold temps or illness is important as well. Having lambs or kids become dependent on a heat lamp to function can hide other issues. On the other hand, we also get temps that will freeze the ears off a goat kid’s head even when protected from wind and moisture. It’s a game of finding a happy medium.
All very good advice, the only small issue I would argue with you on is the use of preventative antibiotics during kidding/lambing. I have no doubt it helps in survival rates for initial birthing. But long term I imagine there is issues there regarding the overall health of the offspring. Same thing happens in humans, mothers given antibiotics during birth or even when breastfeeding results in children with high levels of allergies and autoimmune disorders. For an animal like a goat with such a sensitive gut microbiome I personally would be cautious about the use of antibiotics during the period of intense microbial colonization and transfer from mothers milk and the general environment. Not saying know for sure this us the case in goats/sheep...I may be wrong but it's definitely the case in humans that antibiotics anywhere close to the timing of birth has adverse effects on immunity and microbiome development.
I have no grass on farm, I plant feed and wheat, wait on grazing until 6/12 tail Yes you will have to use chemical wormer or watch them die
I had a female sheep get out we had to chase down and corner her. She was timid before the escape it's worse now, she hurt her legs in the run and finally exhausted her self... seemed like it took a good 2 weeks before she was walking normally... I wasn't prepared to catch them.... I simply was less prepared then I thought. WE ultimately were able to pick her up and carry her back to her pen
It happens! We learn new things every day. While we would much rather learn from other’s mistakes, we often have to learn from our own. We appreciate you watching our videos and we appreciate you taking the time to send us a message.
@@LinessaFarms I appreciate the valuable information you have taken the time to share!
The only reason to want a bottle baby is if you plan to milk by hand. This creates a bond making milking much easier in the future.
IF your goats and sheep are out on pasture in the Spring or Summer do you still need to give them hay?
Generally, no.
The problem with grain is all the phosphorus which will make your Withers have kidney stones that they can't pass I've had to put a goat down already, actually my favorite goat I favorite goat because he got stones from Grain And I'm sure you're going to say I was giving him too much that's not true, they were getting a cambles soup can a day and all they can eat of good grass hay. The vet said it was the grain. So what did I do wrong I'd like to know cause now I stopped it and I wasn't feeding cheap grain, all organic goat feed from my feed store? Any advice?
Hi, Shaun. We are sorry this happened and hopefully we can give you some insight which will help you out moving forward. First of all, it’s not your fault. Many “expensive” feeds are not made correctly and can lead to urinary calculi. This has been a huge problem for years in the show market. Even a small amount of feed with a poor phosphorus and calcium ratio can mess things up. Castrating male goat too early can cause issues as well. Please check out these links and if you would like to talk more about it, feel free to give me a call anytime at the office. 219.964.2563. Tim www.canr.msu.edu/news/urinary_calculi_in_sheep_and_goats kzhead.info/sun/hbGzdpmmlnqto5E/bejne.html
I deep break my land and run a propane burner behind plow Had to build it all and propane from tractor tank I stopped having worms killing my goats and just watch for signs and test for worms Every one laugh at me but they are out of it and I’m still here 45 years later
My sheep are on all grass I don't feed any extra grain other than a little when I want to catch them I don't feed any hay during the summer I will feed it through the winter what do you think about this is it ok?
I think this is perfectly acceptable. We do not feed our ewes and does on pasture any grain during the summer months/rotational grazing time either. We offer free choice mineral plus vitamins along with free choice baking soda which is placed next to their water or in a conspicuous location. This covers our base for any vitamin or mineral deficiency you may have from pasture. It’s a cheap insurance policy. 👍🏻 If you need help getting a good free choice mineral, we can work with you to get something that will work for your operation. Send me an email at customerservice@foundationfeed.com
I have heard this not sure where it came from but I have heard it a couple of times sick sheep seldom survive.
Yes, the old saying is a sick sheep is a dead sheep. We do our best to prevent that!
Do you think it would be beneficial for the future to raise animals like Greg Judy? That maybe the way we have domesticated animals is bad for them, the farmer and the land?
It’s difficult to say. There are many positive attributes to raising animals on pasture. Even we have our animals on pasture 6 months out of the year. The issue for most people comes down to money and trying to balance the price of land, availability of land, and rent prices. Greg also has a lot of things going on that you don’t see such as handling systems, etc. Greg has a brand and a very large following. Some of the things he says I agree with, some not so much. I tell people to get as much information as they can and see what works and what doesn’t. You will find your own methods that work best for you and your farm.
I've never grafted a goat... I'm also not a fan of bottle feeding. That is like pharmaceuticals, only if Necessary
Grafting is difficult to get down but if you can get good at it, it’s a lot better than bottle feeding. We aren’t fans of bottle feeding either.
I’ve been bottle feeding one to 6 a year for 50 years It’s just part of it
I'm not a fan of bottle feeding either. I'm a trucker and a farmer. So my goats stay in their yards for the week that I'm out, then roam and forage on 50 acres while I'm home. I don't have someone to look after them while I'm out, and the last teo people I had were worthless. Im not there enough to bottle feed or graft if need be. So that's why I only have nannies at the time. I've only had a couple times that i know of where the mothers rejected their babies. But I was told that if you isolated them from the other goats and have their babies as their only companion, they are less likely to reject them. So that's one of my next projects. Making separate birthing yards and houses, where I will keep them for the 1st three weeks; give or take
Grain is good, especially for milk goats. You want to have them forage as much as possible. Hay and grain for supplements. I use the grain as candy, to get them to do what them to do, so I don't have to chase them. I also use the grain to get them the herbal supplement I give them. I add my herbal supplement blend to their feed, I give them a couple/few scoops of grain a day, more in the winter then I do in the summer. When they were wild, they was able to forage for the herbs they need. Unless you have a couple thousand acres for them to forage, you need to supplement them. I also plan to grow herb gardens for the animals, protected with cattle panels of course; and grow the herbs they need to fight parasites and other Diseases, what I can't grow, I will add to their feed. I am a naturalist, but I'm also a realist. My backstabbing Jusas friend tried to be 100% natural and all but two of his goats died. Then he Berated and belittled me for giving my goats the purple stuff when needed. But my goats didn't die. Except when I left them in his care; otherwise, my goats were much healthier. That being said; the two goats he had left, were practically invincible... but thats a high price to pay for two invincible goats.
Nothing wrong with grain. Letting animals die is never the best option. We notice a lot of people who claim to be all about animal welfare and let a lot of animals die. Doesn’t seem to make much sense to us.
My sheep are being tortured by flies,what would you recommend to spray on them?
www.premier1supplies.com/p/permectrin-ii-10?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6pOTBhCTARIsAHF23fJhsxJHt3S6pOYBjDfklV02vT0qz93j1Ald_1zPkxX7Pczj7bNBEWcaAkQDEALw_wcB 1 quart will make 100 gallons of spray. You can spray it directly on the sheep and all around your premises. Works great and lasts about 2 weeks.
Do goats eat ground nuts and what are the effects
It would depend on the specific nuts. You would need to see if they are high in tannins. Too much tannin ingestion can cause issues.
@@LinessaFarms thank you a lot
This should now be (due to the nature of shifting practices in medium size ruminant grazing operations) titled either continuous graze or input intensive. Aside from the first few points, the points began to become concentrated on practices common and maybe necessary for both conventional breeds and even in terms of concentrated feeding both in grazing and grain/hay inputs. Rotational grazing is the tradeoff for not needing wormer and or antibiotics, and the cost is very real in case individuals would make the strawman argument that people are claiming to grow out animals on pasture with no labor inputs, but the labor involved in rotational grazing systems, mob grazing systems, silviculture systems, perennial mast systems, is extreme in the best of cases all of these are genetically and labor input intensive, in the upfront cost of these systems you can guarantee it is not as immediately financially viable due to the nature of perennial systems. HOWEVER, they work in the interest of removing worming needs, antibiotic needs, and more, by replacing them with intensively grown secondary metabolite enriched environments through tree crops and fodder contain mineral needs, metabolic needs, and carbohydrate needs that they are naturally more resistant to their environment, if you combine these principles with breeds that are bred from more primitive lines (and this includes wool varieties moreso than hair which is another labor cost) you can achieve results. But this is involving moving animals multiple times a day if over a certain amount of head, and planting literally thousands of trees, literally thousands of dollars in costs just for seeds if not locally available. And it's constrained to temperate forested regions, (with different advantages in other climates/bioregions), but In my area if youre willing to trade cost for labor (and with chemical inputs going up parabolically this year in crop agriculture that's a potentially extreme cost at times) and you have the time and commitment, it's totally possible and being done all over the world actually.
We used to refer to these practices as extensive or intensive but that’s an antiquated term mostly forgotten. Making videos for such a diverse demographic (continental US and abroad) is difficult. Most of our hate mail consists of people calling me an idiot and making blanket statements such as “you just need to put animals out on pasture and leave them alone”. The reality is, most individuals lack at least one of, if not multiple requirements needed to run a true extensive operation. For most of our viewers, this is land (or a lack of). Let’s be honest, there are also significant genetic and knowledge barriers to entry as well. Many of the breeds available for purchase are no longer genetically suited to be put into a true extensive program without serious repercussions. It’s possible… we aren’t saying it’s not. With the right genetics, knowledge base, willingness to cull (very hard) and the financial ability to support the overwhelming inputs needed to run an “all pasture” operation, it can be accomplished and successful. There are channels to support this and provide more knowledge to those wanting to chase this dream. We just aren’t that channel. You seem to know enough about this to know MANY of the channels out there promising big money and no inputs simply aren’t honest with the new folks out there and many many many of these people simply get set up for failure. We are simply trying to play a happy medium and provide the greatest good for the greatest number of people out there. We try to be as transparent as we can about the type of operation we run and although temping are times, I try to avoid bad mouthing the cons out there promising things to people that just aren’t reality. I appreciate you taking the time to contact us and I appreciate you taking the time to watch our videos. I don’t know how much people will be able to follow your post but we can hope for the best. 😬
Where are you located, Hunter?
@@LinessaFarms I'm not saying this because I support any of these initiatives or the political/legal frameworks that are about to come but the demographic you're referring to and yourself included are about to be put completely out of the food industry and the animal industry because of climate propaganda, so if you don't start making these costly changes you will not survive as a business or a farm, legally or financially. Carbon initiatives, ovefunded animals rights groups, deliberate inflation and specifically the targeted deliberate scarcity of farm inputs are the future. Whether you like it or not, and trust me I don't like it. But if you get stuck in an operation like your describing in this video and your animals in a homestead scale even are dependent on these inputs, you become dependent on these inputs, meaning you're dependent on global supply lines and global regulations. The war on meat and dairy is a very real propaganda front, and it will accelerate, and if our farms are not at least moving in that direction we will be regulated and economically forced out of the market.
@@LinessaFarms trees = carbon value assets, silvopasture is reforestation, and not needing to buy chemical inputs because you're growing them means your meat is now more marketable, not to mention mast finished, and you're LEGALLY protected and financially protecting yourself from future regulations, even if you disagree with them. Al gore is a prime example of someone pushing this narrative and his farm in Tennessee is now doing exactly this because he is aware of the regulation to come he helped lobby it.
Do you wean lambs off the moms at 8 weeks, 12 weeks? 60 lbs? Or what? Or do you let the mom do it whenever she is ready??
Hello, Sandra. If I am in no-rush and everyone is doing well, I will leave the babies on the moms out to 12 weeks. This is a personal preference and seems to allow the mother’s milk production to naturally slow and allows for less discomfort and risk for mastitis. With this being said, some of our moms just can’t do it. We have some moms that put everything they eat into their milk and look really really rough by the time they wean. If you get mommas like this, you may want to help them out by weaning a little earlier. So long as the lambs or kids are eating hay and drinking water, you can easily wean safely at 6 weeks. The longest we would ever keep a baby on a bottle would be 45 days to 60 days.
Thank you Tim. I've never heard of erethromycin (sp?) For kidding
Hello, Terry. Aureomycin is one of the major tetracycline based feed additives used by most sheep and goat producers to “clean up” ewes and does prior to kidding or lambing. You will have to get a prescription called a VFD from your vet and then you can purchase it from most feed mills. A little bit goes a long way. Like…40lbs per ton.
I only sale to ag teachers and sale barn period
How many years have you been doing this.
I have been working with sheep and goats for about 30 years. We created Linessa Farms in 2014.
Can you sell meat as organic or green if using chemical wormers or vaccinations?
Yes in most cases for “organic” as defined by the USDA. All vaccinations are allowed by the USDA and chemical wormers are allowed when necessary in most cases. There is a list of what medications are allowed which you can see here. www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/7/205.603 We get this question a lot and for some reason people say vaccines are not allowed when livestock is to be sold as organic. This is simply untrue. Using the term natural or green is not controlled by the USDA and is basically a free for all. Here is another publication for you to check out as well. You will see there are always “exceptions” to the rules which are allowed. www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Organic%20Livestock%20Requirements.pdf Many people find it interesting that the breeding stock do not need to be organically raised in order to sell the offspring as organic. In most cases, I can raise the breeding stock with whatever medications needed and simply refrain from giving them medications in the later stages of pregnancy to avoid any complications.
Can't you feed grass all yr. I see sheep feeding in the snow and kentucty 31 stays green all yr. Why the hay?
If you have enough land to support it you can. If you don’t have enough land, they will eat what you have down to the dirt. Just depends on your set up.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks
You don't need to feed hay if you have grass.
Very true. If you are on pasture, you don’t need to feed hay. In a dry lot situation, you will need to supply approximately 1 flake per head per day. A few considerations when not on dry lot: make sure your “grass” has adequate nutritional value. Some poor quality grasses such as swamp grass and weeds might not provide enough nutrition to maintain your ruminant’s body condition. Likewise, when running goats in wooded areas where a majority of the diet is comprised of leaves, etc, they may benefit from a small fist-full of hay per head per day to keep their rumen running well. A final note would be minerals and vitamins. Just because an animal is on pasture does not mean you should ignore their (potential) need for supplementation. If you have the ability to provide free choice mineral, you may choose to do so. When our animals are on pasture, we provide good loose mineral and free choice sodium bicarbonate. They rarely touch the bicarb but will go after it if they are running in a heavy legume pasture.
No livestock guardian dogs?
That’s definitely a good one to add to the list. 👍🏻
@@LinessaFarms I would have also said, "Disbud all horned kids." So they don't die with their head stuck in a fence.
Bottle Babies SUCK!….feeding every two hours for a week….reminded me of being the father of a newborn….I hated it then too!
Lol. 😂
I had a bottle baby with born with coccidiosis. 3 months he lived in my house. It's a great memory.
I do it twice a year and in fact I’m fixing to get up 5 am and feed one
Sheep have a barn on their back
If you are speaking of the low roof, yes. By keeping the roof low, we can keep the walls open and promote airflow without having to dig out snow drifts. It makes us (unfortunately) have to dig out the area by hand but we haven’t had any pneumonia yet…. Knock on wood.
Explain why vaccinations are a must. Can you?
They aren’t. If you’re willing to take the risk, don’t do it. Neither are wormers or antibiotics. You can be as natural as you want to be. We see animals get tetanus and die every year. It lives in the soil and they can get it from a simple cut. If they get it, they die. Again, choice is yours. Hopefully this helps
@@LinessaFarms Nothing to do with being 'natural'. Vaccines and antibiotics are very overused. This means that they are potentially causing more harm then good when given prophylactically. There are plenty of studies out there to show that this is the case with antibiotics. Anyone interested in finding them will have little trouble. There is also mounting evidence that the same is true of vaccines. Again - anyone interested can find the studies - they are out there. So - if you're willing to take the risks of that comes with the overuse of these 'treatments' - the choice is yours. Hopefully this helps.
You are comical! Like being in front of camera!
I love teaching. Thank you again for the kind words.
Corn kills. Say no to 🌽 .
Good luck.
Yep if you don’t know what your doing
This is really helpful, full of wonderful advise for those wishing to go commercial
Thank you!