Between East and West: The Rus' in Arabic Sources

2024 ж. 18 Сәу.
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Far too often are the Vikings of the West given all the spotlight. Well known are the stories of the Raid on Lindisfarne, the Siege of Paris, and the Danelaw. Less known are the Viking exploits in the east, despite them being much more dynamic, colorful, but perhaps also because they are so complicated. The Vikings of the east were primarily traders, but of a violent sort, and of a complex, multicultural background. They were Scandinavians, Slavs, and Finns, who together adapted a shared and wholly different identity inspired by the Turkic nomads of the Steppe. They served the Khazar Khaganate as warriors and merchants, and were often understood by Muslims visitors as a type of Turk. To the Muslims, they were the Rus.
Sources:
Ibn Fadlan and the land of darkness - Paul Lunde and Caroline Stone
Svear i Österviking - Holger Arbman
The Early Slavs - Pavel Markovich Dolukhanov
The Primary Chronicle - Anonymous
The Rus in Arabic Sources - Thorir Jonsson Hraundal
The Varangians - Sverrir Jakobsson
Viking Rus - Wladyslaw Duzcko
#vikings #history #rus #russia #ukraine

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  • This is why my wife hates my funeral plans…

    @kkupsky6321@kkupsky632129 күн бұрын
    • you dont want a slave tortured and sacrificed in your honour? damn... weirdo....

      @dasarath5779@dasarath577929 күн бұрын
    • @@dasarath5779”uhh throw literal dirt over my body and mark it with a rock so that my enemies have a target to piss on”

      @mueezadam8438@mueezadam843826 күн бұрын
    • @@mueezadam8438 so trve! idk why my og comment is gone btw

      @dasarath5779@dasarath577926 күн бұрын
  • Another Baltic empire vid let's fucking gooooo

    @rebralhunter6069@rebralhunter6069Ай бұрын
  • The idea of a Scandinavian Vikings khanate is so cool.

    @blugaledoh2669@blugaledoh266924 күн бұрын
  • The Baltic peoples also traded in amber. There was actually an Amber Road, roughly a series of north-south routes through Europe.

    @Historian212@Historian21224 күн бұрын
    • I have a video on it

      @balticempire7244@balticempire724424 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for the wonderful content 🙏 but let me point at a little Correction based on Ibn Fadlan resalah manuscript, which I have a copy in my hands that I can read from he says: they were "Blonde (hair) and Reddish (skin)".. Just an opinion: to my understanding and research the Arabs meant by the Rus is what we consider today as Vikings whether those who attacked Andalusia (Al Yaaqobi) in the west or those in the East all were Rus to the Arabs, like all European were Saqāliba even the Franks, the German and the Rus were Saqāliba. the Arabs didn't know the term Slavs they knew other distinctive ethnic groups like Wisu maybe they are the Finno-Baltic Vesps and other further West or to the North from Wisu the people Yura (probably from meaning the people of the Sea in baltic language). Can you please point out to me who said in the Arabic sources that the Rus were Turks?

    @omar0bin0thabit@omar0bin0thabitАй бұрын
  • Should be noted that the word Fadlan used was not the arabic word for "tattood", but that they were marked/painted.

    @kniter@kniter17 күн бұрын
  • i find topics like this so interesting! keep it up!

    @britzkrieg1939@britzkrieg1939Ай бұрын
    • Learn some real history and not modern cliché bs.

      @Ghiyath981@Ghiyath9817 күн бұрын
  • That was a pretty intense funeral ritual.

    @joshoconnor6684@joshoconnor6684Ай бұрын
    • super fcked up

      @weyjosh5213@weyjosh521328 күн бұрын
    • He was probably lying about some of it.

      @some1350@some135028 күн бұрын
    • @@some1350 he was probably not even he. like that monk, Nestor, maybe had contributors to that mystery history

      @metanoian965@metanoian96516 күн бұрын
    • ​@@some1350 he wasnt ive read the same passage and it was verbatim

      @aleccope1320@aleccope13203 күн бұрын
    • @@aleccope1320 I don't mean the guy making the video, I mean the arab man watching the funeral.

      @some1350@some13503 күн бұрын
  • Another excellent video! I appreciate the Rus warrior illustration that you made for this video.

    @RoyalBaconist@RoyalBaconistАй бұрын
  • No Wojaks, literally unwatchable… But actually this was a good video, nice work.

    @GAIVSCALIGVLA@GAIVSCALIGVLAАй бұрын
  • Amazing video as always

    @tdoran616@tdoran616Ай бұрын
  • In museums in nordics countries there are countless arabic silver coins, there was trade but not raids with the Arabs.

    @bestestindaworld@bestestindaworld28 күн бұрын
  • RUSSIAN The name of the Slavs, Greeks and Arabs for the Swedish Vikings who founded Gardarike or Russia. The word ruser comes from rodhr, leidang fleet (especially such a fleet from Roden, i.e. Roslagen), and contains a syndetic s (cf. words such as "councillor", "Council"). The Finns called the Russians ruotsi. It is likely that the Russians established themselves on the Russian Baltic Sea coast already before Rurik's time, probably in the first half of the 8th century. Ruser chieftains besides Rurik were until the year 882 AD. Askvold and Dir in Kiev as well as in the 9th century Rogvolod in Polotsk near Dyna. After them, Gardarike's three provinces were built: Novgorod, Polotsk and Kiev. The name ruser still lived on into the 11th century.

    @64fairlane305@64fairlane30525 күн бұрын
  • My mother's parents were from Sweden. Morfar told me stories about our ancestors. "Rus" meant "red beards" and "rowers". Swedish Vikings went East through the Baltic into the river systems. "Belarus" and "Russia" became places they settled in. They continued their travels. They got to the Black Sea and the Middle East.

    @user-ke8if6ri9r@user-ke8if6ri9rАй бұрын
    • 🤔 the red haired are Thracian (origin) Sythian,, well known world wide as Mercenaries .. .. From the region (originally) close to Istanbul.

      @SacredDreamer@SacredDreamerАй бұрын
    • It just meant "rowers". The Finnish name for us Swedes (Routsi) has the same origin.

      @somefuckstolemynick@somefuckstolemynick29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@SacredDreamer Red hair comes from both Northwestern Europe and Asia.

      @Based_Stuhlinger@Based_Stuhlinger29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Based_StuhlingerWhere in Asia?

      @WILD__THINGS@WILD__THINGS26 күн бұрын
    • @@WILD__THINGS Central asia I believe, that's where the gene originated from.

      @Based_Stuhlinger@Based_Stuhlinger26 күн бұрын
  • So would that be the Wends?

    @jcr1029@jcr102929 күн бұрын
  • Such a fascinating topic. The mightiest Slav nation and were it's princes Germanic? Were Catherine the Great and Paul III the status quo

    @jam1087@jam108729 күн бұрын
  • It's probably fair to say the Rus were an amalgamation of all the people present in the area. Different cultures blending into eachother over decades and centuries, Skandinavians, Balts, Cumans and Tatars

    @mnk9073@mnk9073Ай бұрын
    • Swedes

      @bestestindaworld@bestestindaworld28 күн бұрын
    • Scythians

      @shaunmathis2474@shaunmathis247427 күн бұрын
    • The Scythians were long gone before the Rus came

      @AlexKomnenos@AlexKomnenos26 күн бұрын
    • ​@@bestestindaworld There were no Swedes that time.

      @asmirann3636@asmirann363626 күн бұрын
    • @@asmirann3636 yes there were you ignorant fool, they were called Geats before being called Swedes.

      @bestestindaworld@bestestindaworld25 күн бұрын
  • An interesting video once more. Cheers!

    @unknowntrooper_2791@unknowntrooper_279128 күн бұрын
  • Started nodding off which I rarely do with these videos until I realized you hypnotized me with Jeremy Soule.

    @VelvetDragonWitch@VelvetDragonWitch27 күн бұрын
  • very well done. ive commented similliar stuff on your other videos but as an estonian im fascinated by the evidence for finnic participation in rus' culture and state. do you have any good sources on this topic?

    @dasarath5779@dasarath577929 күн бұрын
  • Rus in Eritrean Tigrinya means Rice 🍚

    @GeezSpeaker@GeezSpeaker25 күн бұрын
  • I have always asked for a viking funeral, but please leave the animals and the slave girl out of it unless you want me to haunt you. Besides that, sounds absolutely perfect.😅😊

    @dustybricks113@dustybricks11329 күн бұрын
  • Considering the practices of the vikingfuneral which is only common in scandinavia and asatro, Its pretty safe to say that the rus wasnt turkish. Turks never worshipped Oden.

    @oliwwer@oliwwer24 күн бұрын
  • got interested about the picture at 3:00. Would love to know the source for further looking into

    @rahieitee@rahieiteeАй бұрын
    • does reverse image search bring anything up? looks vageuly slavic. im guessing also not a historically attested tapestry

      @dasarath5779@dasarath577929 күн бұрын
  • In a historical video it's incorrect to use paintings of Hyperborea by Vsevolod Ivanov (19:25, 19:44), they are pure fantasy. Still a great video though

    @neelektronik@neelektronikАй бұрын
    • bro its just a way of communicating the ideas hes talking about. It's not a museum display or anything it doesn't have to be a hundred percent accurate, not that that's even a thing that can exist considering how little we actually know.

      @zachofthebattery2864@zachofthebattery2864Ай бұрын
    • Ackshually it's completely 1:1 with reality

      @JaMeshuggah@JaMeshuggahАй бұрын
    • Looks like someone wasn’t allowed in.

      @msflyth@msflyth28 күн бұрын
    • The primacy of 'fantasy' over the so-called reality (no such thing, consult the contemporary science) was the cardinal point of the ancient Viking mystical doctrine.

      @blyysm@blyysm9 күн бұрын
  • One thing needs to be stressed, Ibn Khordadbeh's account of the "Slavic origin" of the Rus' isn't that important because of the date of the said account, but because he specifies their affiliation based on ethnic origin, whereas Ibn Fadlan specifies their affiliation based on shared profession (he denotes the Bulgars as "Rus" too because of war profiteering and human trafficking), not to mention that his "description" of the "Varangian's leader's ship burial" is an irrefutable proof that the man/men in question weren't Rus/Rurikids because not a single Rurikid, both pagan and Christian, was laid to rest in a ship burial.

    @numenoreaneternity6682@numenoreaneternity66825 күн бұрын
  • nice documentary

    @okancanarslan3730@okancanarslan3730Ай бұрын
  • 6:56 we've all been there right guys??

    @JaMeshuggah@JaMeshuggahАй бұрын
  • 👑 👑 👑

    @Tidericus1350@Tidericus1350Ай бұрын
  • So wait, did Scandinavian Odinists kill a slave girl at a Noble's funeral, or was that just the Rus?

    @bruhmoment9009@bruhmoment9009Ай бұрын
    • current archeological evidence doesnt neccessarily prove the slave girl sacrifice among the scandinavians. it was def practices by the rus considering the literary evidence

      @dasarath5779@dasarath577929 күн бұрын
    • ⁠@@dasarath5779Ya but the literary evidence is unreliable. Ibn Battu traveled in the 1300’s that would be way later then the Viking era. Plus authors of the time added much to make a good story. Kinda like Marco Polo.

      @stehfreejesseah7893@stehfreejesseah789328 күн бұрын
  • Waaaait wait wait. I’ve watched this channel and the pirate channel for ages, I’ve just realised… are you the same guy??

    @schmiddy1473@schmiddy147329 күн бұрын
  • They were scandinavians You read the greeks that went there Wrote the same

    @veronicalogotheti1162@veronicalogotheti116228 күн бұрын
  • I'm kinda glad we don't do that anymore... Ships are expensive nowadays

    @MarcusAgrippa390@MarcusAgrippa390Ай бұрын
    • Small funeral boats would be an awesome business and also great for the environment. 😊 If done correctly, the sunken half burned boats would sink in an area helping form a habitat for fish like the many tribes of the American northwest.

      @dustybricks113@dustybricks11329 күн бұрын
    • Yeah, we could only afford a replica viking miniboat for my friend's funeral. Deperted from Riga and went trough the delta of Daugava to scatter the ashes in Baltic sea as he wanted. At night, so burned only the flames, not the boat. Magic and not too sad.

      @dannydetonator@dannydetonator28 күн бұрын
    • well back in the day we did not have to pay for wood you just kinda cut down a tree and make your own boat ...

      @funnygaming2672@funnygaming267226 күн бұрын
  • I know that music 😉

    @chrisnewbury3793@chrisnewbury3793Ай бұрын
  • So If Ibn Battuta traveled in the 1300’s wouldn’t that be way after the hight of the Viking era. Like 300 years late for that story?

    @stehfreejesseah7893@stehfreejesseah789328 күн бұрын
    • It's Ibn Fadhlan. Ibn Battouta didn't travel to nothern europe.

      @tylerdordon99@tylerdordon9928 күн бұрын
  • The Vikings were also known as Sea Kings in the Black Sea, I forgot the spelling from the source, but translates to circa Sea Kings. irc

    @agroplode9680@agroplode9680Ай бұрын
  • Vikings actually got to spain via river from rus to med

    @SnakeBush@SnakeBush24 күн бұрын
  • The russ sound like modern day crust punk train hoppers 😆. My old punk train hopping friends had similar customs when it cames to sex,hygiene and travel.

    @user-qn1kz7dk3t@user-qn1kz7dk3tАй бұрын
    • Yeah big on the “sexual” customs for train kids. A lot of rape

      @ethanbard3067@ethanbard306728 күн бұрын
  • Is there anywhere the Vikings didn't go?

    @tadficuscactus@tadficuscactus23 күн бұрын
    • Mars probably

      @herrdrizzt9547@herrdrizzt954719 күн бұрын
    • Where the fuck they came in India,southeast Asia,Africa lol

      @OptimisticOstrich-sd9nt@OptimisticOstrich-sd9nt16 күн бұрын
  • They were taking from all over

    @veronicalogotheti1162@veronicalogotheti116228 күн бұрын
  • You say Finns at the start. But you have no sources indicating that ethno or finno culture was apart of this at large. Individual anacdotes does not count as Finno made 0 impact ethnically. Explain yourself please.

    @dakapo8985@dakapo898523 күн бұрын
    • no

      @balticempire7244@balticempire724419 күн бұрын
  • Skyrim for the Nords!

    @VeritasIncrebresco@VeritasIncrebresco28 күн бұрын
  • If the Rus were proximate to Kiev, from before the Norse had expeditioned that far East, could they have possibly been of Pecheneg origin?

    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302Ай бұрын
    • According to mytrueancestory most East Slavs today get 2-3 Viking ancestors. 0 Turkic. Unless they have close Turkic family members.

      @CA-jz9bm@CA-jz9bmАй бұрын
    • Rus is 100% Nordic and Slav only. History tends to repeat itself since Nordics and Slavs sit on the same branch of indo-european.

      @oliwwer@oliwwer24 күн бұрын
  • Evolution of Scythian and Amazon. Gog and Magog ? Is Turk a tongue or lifestyle. Anyhow I've come to accept the fact my relatives and neighbours became turks . To the Varangian mixed salad of mankind , your legacy lives on and as for me , Kyrie Eleison Me and thank you for everything. Blessings to all and sundry for the year ahead

    @georgepapatheofilou6118@georgepapatheofilou611814 күн бұрын
  • A Viking we will go is an act not a ethnicity 🍻

    @viktormogilin307@viktormogilin307Ай бұрын
  • Why hang on a word, they where childs of the baltic sea no genic

    @flemmingjensen4060@flemmingjensen406026 күн бұрын
  • Interesting. A complex multicultural multiethnic culture is more difficult to understand than other ones.

    @jacquespictet5363@jacquespictet5363Ай бұрын
  • They sold a lot of slaves to the Arabs. Maybe some of my Irish ancestors

    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf28 күн бұрын
    • why are you living in an arab country ...if not yours where not sell not your direct familly anyway

      @funnygaming2672@funnygaming267226 күн бұрын
    • @@funnygaming2672 I`m not i live in Australia mate. I would never choose to live in a arab country. That`s my point some Irish were slaved there by vikings

      @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf26 күн бұрын
    • @@waynemcauliffe-fv5yfIreland has endured so much, very stalwart peoples

      @mueezadam8438@mueezadam843826 күн бұрын
    • @@mueezadam8438 True mate. Tough people

      @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf26 күн бұрын
  • !!!!!!!!!!!

    @nicholaswoollhead6830@nicholaswoollhead683029 күн бұрын
  • The aliance was with the huns of east

    @veronicalogotheti1162@veronicalogotheti116228 күн бұрын
  • through out these last 2000 years we know from all the history books who the "merchants" are.

    @krono5el@krono5el28 күн бұрын
  • for you who didn't get it yet, The Rus' is not "russia" (Muscovy )

    @adamradziwill@adamradziwillАй бұрын
    • Russian state is 500 years old but Rus are literally among ancestors of the Russians tho. Rus history is Russian history.

      @CA-jz9bm@CA-jz9bmАй бұрын
    • ​@@CA-jz9bmrus history is a part of Russian history yes but Russian history is not a part of Rus except there interactions.

      @longhairdontcare122@longhairdontcare12229 күн бұрын
    • @@longhairdontcare122 literally ancestors of Russians are Rus. What are you talking about? We even have tons TONS of genetic evidence of it on mytruenacestry (site that compares modern dna to ancient) for example

      @CA-jz9bm@CA-jz9bm29 күн бұрын
    • Triggered reaction....no doubt

      @willbass2869@willbass286928 күн бұрын
    • Strange hohol cope

      @bennygohome4576@bennygohome457626 күн бұрын
  • Baltic Empire The name Rus and Russian come from the name of the deutsche province of Preußen.The Britons “COULD NOT” pronounce the name Preußen and therefore began to call the province Prussia.in order to know the past you don’t need to be a genius, it’s enough to be a decent person.stop falsifying the past

    @tojamatokanava7778@tojamatokanava777826 күн бұрын
    • What the hell, Prussia is baltic not germanic

      @Diversus100@Diversus10026 күн бұрын
    • @@Diversus100 Sleep well and don't get a hangover

      @tojamatokanava7778@tojamatokanava777826 күн бұрын
  • False

    @OriginalFallofMind@OriginalFallofMind25 күн бұрын
  • Pot stirring still

    @user-wz9js5xp7o@user-wz9js5xp7o10 күн бұрын
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