Brace Yourself For The Collapse Of Modern Society - Peter Zeihan
Peter Zeihan is a geopolitical analyst, author and a speaker.
The world is changing faster than ever, and a lot of the countries, dynamics, peace treaties and structures we're familiar with may be about to come to an end. Peter's job consists of him analysing data from geography, demographics, and global politics to understand economic trends and make predictions. And if his predictions are correct, the next 50 years are going to look incredibly different.
Expect to learn why China will lose half of it's population by 2050, why globalisation is coming to an end even though we're more connected than ever, why population demographics are one of the most important factors in determining the future, whether automation will help or hinder us, whether food shortages are actually something to panic about and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:21 The End of Globalisation
08:12 Why China is Most Concerning
15:52 Causes of a Reduced Birth Rate
24:46 Relying on US Security
29:45 Effects of Declining Globalisation
44:31 Future of the Global Population
51:29 Will China Still Be a Manufacturing Giant?
58:45 Quality of Life in the Next Decade
1:01:52 Where to Find Peter
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Hello beautiful people. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:21 The End of Globalisation 08:12 Why China is Most Concerning 15:52 Causes of a Reduced Birth Rate 24:46 Relying on US Security 29:45 Effects of Declining Globalisation 44:31 Future of the Global Population 51:29 Will China Still Be a Manufacturing Giant? 58:45 Quality of Life in the Next Decade 1:01:52 Where to Find Peter
France not integrated in the EU ?? What is he talking about ? Thier currency is the Euro, if that isn't integration I do not know what is, and they cannot withdraw without HUGE consequences that make Brexit look tiny. Also the British Navy isn't anywhere near as small he thinks (I live the home Port so I should know), it is 'smaller' but then we no longer fulfill the role the US Navy now occupies.
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Does he talk about the Western population being erazed by the modern popular treatment in the arm which needs to be updated every 4-6 m0nths if not he is not a good expert.
He's completely right that technological advancement was one of the primary drivers of women's liberation. I love capitalism. It's great.
Globalization is cool, just don't be a globalist.
Great interview.
I see you, Shawn 💪
Get peter on your show!! @ShawnRyanShowOfficial
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I have not viewed this video, however the New World Order has been Proclaimed for the last 30 or so years from Various World Leaders and at least One President. Globalism. We The People will contest this one, one may rest assured. To the Conclusion and the destruction of this Nefarious Concept at Controlling People's Lives such as Klaus Schwab has proposed from 2016.
You said something very profound. You said we are running out of mature adults. I think your spot on.
you're
@@jennifer9047 Not very mature of you
@@iant720more than mature
Only a God fearing man will be of sound mind, and the world is moving away from God!
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a man with great perspective I won't forget this interview as we watch it all unfold. may you all find your way through this nightmare and be blessed
I'm on my way out of this world. Blessings to all.
I loved this entire call until 46 minutes in when he made the claim: "A big reason 1/3 of millenials still live at home is because they're told they're special their whole life." My guy. None of us can afford a house or an apartment in many areas of the US. What are you talking about.
Try world wide issue
It is not the sole reason but one of those reasons. Kids who always get told they are special want to work high paying jobs immediately after finishing school. Your post for example tells me that you expect to own a home or apartment and if you cant own it, you will live with the parents. What happend to renting? If you stay with your parents and dont consider renting near the job, you shrink your job opportunities.
It's called "projection". You're talking about a generation who grew up hearing that they were special just for being born white or whatever. The real difference with the younger generations comes from how we have deinstitutionalised the childhood violence responsible for so much of the older generation's emotional repression. There's a lot of resentment, and an inability to relate on an emotional level, or appreciate the differences in the situations that people face. So, they cling to the idea that problems are due to character flaws, flaws that other people have that they don't have, because THEY are the ones who are special. You should assume he's likely to be as correct about the other populations he makes generalisations about, as he is when making generalisations about your own.
My guy, high prices has only been for the last 2 years. The prior ten have been extremely low inflation with rates at near zero. I was born in 89 and bought my first house in 2010 at 21, in a middle of recession working for 12.5 an hour with no degree for 90K in Phoenix. So, no, it has been affordable. Millennials thought, why would I work extra hours to buy a house, when there are open bedrooms 3 miles down the road at my parents house and I can go to college. Don’t try to rewrite history to make yourself feel better. At 18, I got an apartment and saved for the downpayment for 3 years. I didn’t blow it on video games and going out.
@@annoloki My god. That self obsessed drivel reeks of a smug redditor. R/Atheism is that way pal--->
What makes this worse is that we have a congress and senate that are in their 70’-90’s who have milked the system for personal wealth. We need TERM LIMITS so we can cycle good leaders in and retire the obsolete.
You got term limits every time you vote. Mommy won't save you from your cowardnece or stupidity. Take responsibility.
That’s a terrible idea, it just makes the deep state even more powerful
The McConnell death stare🤡
This period of having aging leaders is a temporary thing. Let it slide for now. Making new laws for term limits will create other unforseeable problems down the line.
context and person. Great leaders make great strides, poor leaders damage much. Wouldn't you want a great leader to remain at the helm for as long as possible?
I earned my Bachelors degree at age 60 and at 67 making more money than I ever did in my 40's, and had no problems finding a job. My husband is 66 and is also earning more than he did when younger. Neither of us take any medications nor have any illnesses or chronic diseases. Our neighbor came out of a 6 year retirement at age 72 after learning a new skill set: office accounting. He had no problem finding a job. Don't count out seniors to remain contributing, working citizens well into our aging years. My neighbor has 3 children and my husband and I have 2 children so we have "replaced" ourselves in terms of birthrate.
I don't know what country you live in, but I'd say you and your neighbour are the exception rather than the rule in your age bracket - as far as having the economic resources to be able to afford university degrees in later life and also afford the lifestyle, quality food and health care to stay as healthy as you have been able to... and good on you for doing so. Many people keep working at traditional retirement age because they have to - because they can't afford to retire.
You're more than likely be dead or disable in ten years. Don't you have anything better to do than chase after money in your final decade of useful life? Or are you the type that believe having a 3000 sq ft house and a new car every three years are the most important things in life.
At what point do you stop buying into the commercial slave trade of humankind, and actually start living your life your way, instead of how the establishment tells you how to live? At what point do you actually get to experience the life the super rich get to experience? I don't see such a system in place in human civilization, except for the super rich who use everybody else to make their wealth. Is that humanity's purpose in life? To give that to a select priviledged class of a few? Sounds like despotism. Dictatorship of the few, over everyone else. Democracy changed NOTHING for humankind. It brought us right back to the same situation we had before. You are confusing FORM with FREEDOM. All that has changed in Human Civilization is FORM, NOT FREEDOM. The Super Rich are FREE to do WHATEVER they want, WHENEVER they want to do it. You are not! You are bound by ECONOMICS and TIME RESTRAINTS. YOU ARE A PRISONER!
The problem is that it doesn't work that way. The mean average is far more impacting, that the one outstaning example (or the few) you represent. If everyone did like you, then yes. But since the vast majority is not like that, the odds are still pitched against us. However, it is great to have folks who show us positive examples, so others can follow suit when the need arises. I still believe that humanity will always find a way to evolve further, even if in a 2 steps forward, 1 step back rhythm.
@@TheTruth-cg8vj I aged out of corporate IT in my early 50s. Aggregated my resources, sold all real estate, moved to a low cost rental, nomadic mindset. Went back to school for a few years to learn new skills and hide out from expenses and stress. Now, wife and I are exploring low cost geo-arbitrage abroad. It was going to be Western and Eastern Europe this year, but the Ukraine war made us want to skip Georgia and the Balkans. Happy we did, as Europe was overrun with digital nomads all with the same idea.
Would like to see an update interview with Peter now that a year has passed since this one.
He did a Joe Rogan podcast not long ago and it's even more grim
Go to his channel, he puts out several videos most weeks. I have been watching him for years.
PZ’s channel is great, but I like how Chris asks the questions that get him to expand his explanations.
Me too
Yet we have the WEF destroying agriculture in the Netherlands as they did in Sri Lanka. So, not only do we have a global breakdown threat of the things needed to maintain agriculture, we have NGOs purposely destroying agriculture.
So true. Shri Lanka is a great example. I found it interesting that he didn't discuss green policies being implemented by the WEF.
Yes he is not talking about these psychopaths and how they will affect the world which is a larger issue then any he is speaking of here
Good point, very wise to see that WEF is not what it's crack up to be !!!!!!
Not only that. The big explosion in Beirut was because of western sanctions on multiple countries. That get a lot of food from India and live meaningless lives. Russia and many other countries were already sanctioned disrupting global food and fertilizer supply. There's something off about this guy. I hope it's not the same guy who was very calm and understanding of all the reasons people were childless. Devolving into this propagandist spreading misinformation imbedded within information people seriously want to consider.
I wonder who owns most farmland in USA?... and what he is doing with it now?... and Why? and why were food factories burning down?.. probably just coincidence...
I love the smile on Peter's face as he predicts doom in 42 flavors
Anyone can make such predictions. Especially because they are never going to happen.
@@felipec He predicted that Russia would invade Ukraine well beyond the Crimea... in 2014. He predicted that Brexit would get fully hung-up on the 'Irish Question' before Brexit even began. He predicted that the necessary moves by the US to strengthen the dollar would have the opposite effect everyone else was predicting (nearly all other geo-political economist types thought that would be the end of the Petro Dollar and the rise of a secondary currency to supplant the USD as the de facto global currency) by actually cementing the USD as the global currency of choice for trade and their own national financial stability. He predicted that Australia, NZ, India, Japan, and the USA would form a coalition structured around security... in 2010. My guy you bet against Pete Z at your peril. The guy has a frighteningly strong grasp of the 'big picture'.
@@guiwhiz Lots of people predicted that Russia would invade Ukraine. When you make hundreds of predictions some of them are bound to come true.
@@felipec That's true. I'm certainly not trying to suggest Peter Zeihan is some kind of infallible Oracle, but he has been right FAR more often than wrong, thus failing to listen to what he has to say and consider the merits of it strongly in your economic planning, at a minimum, seems a bit foolhardy to me. To each their own. If you choose to ignore the man you are certainly welcome to do so. Can I interest you in some great low-land property in Bangladesh?
42!
Love this! I was surprised at the lack of talk about India however given how large their population is.
Because India is a dump. 😂
How did I miss this Peter Zeihan interview? Been following Peter's geopolitics analysis for a few years now and my growing knowledge of our global geopolitical world has been as equally exhilarating as it's been terrifying. Peter is the real deal. Thank you for sharing his vast knowledge with us, Chris!
It’s a shame the majority of his claims are completely unfounded and wildly sensationalist. 😂
Hes a clown not a journalist.
@@jin6000 research before responding.
@@jimicicchini It's a free country.
@@interruptingaging yes it is. Can I recommend you listen to the Duran,Chris hedges, the grey zone podcasts amongst many others. You will be enlightened to open up your perspectives
You’re way ahead of the game these are the kinds of conversations people are going to want to be listening to. Gonna help prepare for the next couple years.
What he said
Elon Musk has lots of videos on demographics.
And if the longer term fx of the last two yrs leads to a population decline we are finished.
@@TimBitts649 peter zeihan goes way more indepth
@@user-gl9mf3zo7r yeah
Ah geopolitics, more complicated than I could ever conceive of yet endlessly fascinating to listen to.
Ever notice that most of it is negative despite these being the literal best time to live? Gotta sell those books.
It's all made up anyway
This was an excellent interview. For anyone with an interest in geopolitics, this type of interview is a must-see.
Zeihan's timeline of globalism is off. After WWII, the US was the manufacturer for the world in many respects. Europe and Japan were bombed out. That was the case until the 70's. In the 80's, Reagan helped secure foreign manufacturing in the domestic US market, but the transition to China and India had already begun. In the 90's the US signed onto NAFTA and GATT. In September, 2000 the US gave China permanent most-favored nation trading status. Manufacturing jobs suffered as a result. The trade off's promised for a global economy, The Third Way, as Clinton referred to it, were a failure. This trade off was doomed to fail from the start.
Imho the best and most thorough Peter Zeihan to date (I’ve seen a few). And great for beginners of this way of thinking too. Nicely done Chris.
There wasn't a whole lot of uniquely new info to me in this...what was unique to me was making all the connections with what I thought was disparate events that in reality were all entangled. This was ridiculously eye opening to me
This was easily one of the most fascinating podcasts I've listened to this year. Definitely spending more time listening to what Peter Zeihan has to say. Cheers, Chris, and
If you audible his 4 books is 70 hours long. It's really time well spent.
Listen to his latest book. I highly recommend. It goes through pretty much every global system and how it will change.
Bringing in millions of east and south asians is not a good idea for Canada
Likely y’all will just apply to be a American state
@@The_preserver_x16 Mmmmmmmm...No. That idea's been around since forever and it won't float. Look up the Ogdensburg Agreement if you feel aggressive (invadey) about it. We declared war on the Japanese because of Pearl Harbor before YOU did, the same day. You did the next day. Had your back in wartime since forever, ask any SEAL or grunt (we're very good at it) but become a state? Your politics are f****n insane and vicious and we don't share your fondness for firearms to the same extent. We like POGG so...not gonna happen. Cheers, dude!
Australia// Thanks Chris- for having Peter Zeihan on, he,s so good at Geo Pol and great to listen to. Cheers.
I'm a huge fan of the many guests I've watched. This, however, was a "Share to all" piece! Amazing work, Chris!
I'm a Mexican millenial in the technology/industrial sector. Pete has clearly laid out that my life calling is to save America's ass.
This grumpy American Gen-Xer thanks you for your future service. 😊
Be American and save that ass… also have American children… we need them
😄👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
😂 messiah complex
We thank you sir
“Running out of mature adults” … true and frightening.
And the mature adults we have are pretty stupid
i don't understand this statement at all...........as a mature adult i am valued as worthless & i'm not wanted at all........& there are 8 billion people in the world..........i don't understand that point of view at all
Man I sat thru the whole video. I need to plan my life around this discussion. Thank you for the upload!
Pete tends to lean on the more dramatic scenarios with his protections. He's not a fortune teller. He also makes money from doing talks to investors and sells books.
You say, sir, that “we are never going back”. As someone who believes that, while pendulums do swing, they inevitably reach equilibrium, I cannot accept your prediction. I see us as continuously moving toward equilibrium.
Chris, kuddos on one of the most interesting interviews I've ever heard with Peter Z. I love how you zoomed in and zoomed out at just the right moment to keep the conversation on point and lively. You did an excellent job and I sincerely hope that you'll be doing more of this type of interview in the future. Now I want Chris TV, where the conversation is relevant and lively and the truth prevails. Great job! 👏👏👏
Yes, I second that vote for Chris. (and I think he was once a squaddie?)
Agreed, I've been a Peter Z fan for 8 years now and routinely search KZhead for new videos by or featuring him, this was the best interview of Peter that I've ever seen. Very insightful and patient, well done Chris!
Chris!!!!! That was a fantastic episode!! Well done sir! I swear, I don’t know why I don’t watch your show more often, I wish there were more hours in the day I guess. Every time I watched an entire show I’ve walked away thoroughly satisfied with plenty of new knowledge and stuff to think about. This was a fascinating one! Actually gave me hope that the western world isn’t as fucked as I thought it was! Anyway man, glad you’re on the right (that is, the good) part of the pond now. I listened to you on Joe Rogan when you said that in the UK, if you come from humble beginnings and start to become wealthy everyone wants to keep you down and see you fail, and that it’s not that way over here. Thank goodness man, we are so happy to have you here in Texas. We hope you will make a great American one day, and wish you nothing but success. I hope your show continues to grow and you become super rich, as we say over here, fuck the haters! Thank you for another fantastic episode, all the best.
I came away with the same sentiment. It really makes you see how bad these autocracies and war truly is for humankind, especially after the age of globalization. I truly hope that humanity itself becomes more conscious of how we can grow and maintain altruistic relationships and stewardship of our planet. That certainly includes the west that has been shortsighted and degenerate in many cases.
Globalisation was fantastic!!!! Maybe in 1975...not 2018 when every product is made by the cheapest labour and Corporations grew into untouchable Monopolies that are now controlling our lives and even fully cancelling an American President. Peter Zeihan is totally out of touch 😕
Im sure the guests are great but this host is slow to say the least.
I knew an ex-Englishman (working class guy) who had done well in the USA. I asked him if he visited the Old Country. Once! he said. Why? I said. Everybody he knew who had anything on the ball had moved away from England - to the USA, Canada, Aus-NZ, and even SA. No point in going back.
AMEN!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 You COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND what I said and how many X’ers feel. Thank you for validating - glad we are not alone.❤
This was an exceptional talk. So worth my time.
I got shivers and goosebumps literally at 9:06 when I realized what this meant. I went to China in 87 to backpack the countryside to see it before what I knew was coming. Shanghai at the time had ONE modern multi story building that everyone was very proud of. I have closely followed the rise of China all my life.
china held itself back due to its own civil wars and flirting with communism, then finally embraces more capitalism and catches up to capitalist countries... then attributes its catchup using existing and stolen technology and methodologies to communism... all the while spewing anti capitalist propaganda. and some people fall for it lol.
Because it's bullshit. He's way exaggerating with the numbers. China going from 1.3 billion to 650 million in 28 years would mean that far more than half the population would have to die in that timeframe. With the average age at 38.4, life expectancy at 76.91 and a fertility rate of 1.7 his calculations are extremely wrong. Even if you assume the official numbers are all fake, his estimate just doesn't make sense. He's essentially proposing that the population will shrink by 50% every generation. While every generation will actually shrink by 50% if every woman only has 1 child, their parents and grandparents are still in the population. It boggles my mind how people can just take these wild claims at face value.
@@Thorox16 thanks for this heads up…you are so right about taking claims without critical anaysis of them, especially when the chains have such broad and serious implications. I am going to look up population pyramids for a bunch of countries now.
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How can china be at 1.7 birthrate, when they had a 1 child policy?
Peter is the best but not always the easiest to interview 😬 great job on moving him past usual topics & getting some of the details, he’s fascinating if not upbeat… thanks for one of the best interviews I’ve seen with him.
Thank you for this. I would rather know what is coming our way rather than stick my head in the sand and pretend that everything is OK Good Luck Everyone!
Just found this channel .. have just watched 3x 1hr videos in a row. Awesome guests discussing interesting topics!
Watched a LOT of Zeihan interviews. This is one of the best.
They’re called book commercials
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So have I and I agree
I agree, it was nice to hear some different and more detailed information.
Agree!
Chris, I love how you allow your guest to talk with minimal interruption. And when you do interrupt, it is only to ask a question, to enhance, or clarify his point. Refreshing and powerful! Your guest, Peter Zeihan, was amazing and a great pick! I'm a new sub!
Peter Zeihan literally made a career from "predicting the end of modern civilisation" like 100 times over.
a hundred times per month
A man with a lot of data but lacks the ability to comprehend it.
He then predicts someone is going to start a nuclear war over Russian oil. Truly stupid
@@steviedodds31 over "Russian oil" lmaooo try over NATO agression
Peter is a wonderful guest to listen to. So much information about so many things that nobody else seems to know about.
Because he’s making stuff up.
And you would know because you are all about making stuff up yourself.@@mensrea1251
@@mensrea1251 the guy is blue pill central
@@mensrea1251yes he totally embarrassed himself here. I know some of the topics he talks about rather well and it shows he's filling in gaps with his own fantasy. Not only from what he says but also from his body language and way of saying it.
@@witoldschwenke9492 He’s an amateur hack, armed with academic credentials from Northeast Missouri State University and the University of Otago (your guess is as good as mine what those institutions actually are), he’s parlayed an uncanny knack for making wild suppositions and pure fantasies sound like well researched facts into a money making machine. He’s the ideal pseudo intellectual for the internet generation. I lose IQ just listening to the guy.
Chris- you did really well on this one. I've watched a few videos with Zeihan, who's great but has a run-through, so you often hear alot of the same lines and stats. You kept him on his toes and fresh with your interesting questions, different perspectives and talking points. Well done.
He has a message, and it's an important one. Not sure why you are looking for "fresh material" from the same source. Instead of just consuming it and requiring more, you could take just this conversation and turn it into hours and hours of contemplation which is the biggest part of the fun. What would you add or take away from the message? What do you have to contribute?
THANK YOU so much fella's. Grown up, sober, straight talk that we really need. Ready or not here come changes many asked for but none of us in reality wanted
The fact that this information isnt coming as a narrative from our governments or from rival governments tells me that what he is saying is much more likely to be true and accurate.
An awesome explanation of history and current events in the face of war
A fascinating talk, thank you.
My favorite part of this interview is that you are the first person I've seen since I went down the Zeihan rabbit hole to ask simply "in what ways could you be wrong?" It gave him a chance to sort of nullify a lot of criticisms of him that I see, that he's too slovenly confident and this is all projection and how can he solidly know any of this, he came across still confident but realistic and humble in his answer. Great stuff dude.
*perspective* not projection, although it can be argued that projection is part of forward-looking perspective... lol
@@kerryaggen6346 projection as in an estimate of future conditions based upon current or past trends.
WELL, ONE THING IS DEFINITELY TRUE, AND IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE NOW NOT HAVING ENOUGH KIDS TO GROW UP AND STAFF THE FACTORIES OF TH FUTURE, THE AMERICAN WOMEN IS ONLY HAVING 1.6 BABIES PER WOMAN, IT MUST BE 2.1 OR THEIR CULTURE WILL JUST GO AWAY, ALREADY SOME COUNTRIES ARE PAYING PEOPLE TO HAVE CHILDREN, AND ITALY IS GIVING AWAY FREE HOUSES IF YOU WILL COME THERE TO LIVE AND HAVE CHILDREN, THE ITALIAN CULTURE WILL BE GON IN 50 YEARS, THE ONLY SAVING GRACE IN AMERICA IS TO HAVE MASS IMMIGRATION, WHICH YOU SEE GOING RIGHT NOW AT THE BOARDER, REMEMBER, AMERICA WAS CREATED BY IMMIGRANTS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE
takes a ton of optimism to offset a kilo of pessimism
THE BIG PROBLEM IS DEMOGRAPHICS WOMEN ARE NOT HAVING CHILDREN IMMAGRATION WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE USA
Great interview. I love Peter’s work, and he’s never bad, but interviewers normally don’t get so in depth on so many subjects with him!
Right on, Peter has a lot of canned answers, I really appreciated this discussion in that Chris was able to expand on them with him, drilling in a bit deeper.
Ha ha, fancy seeing you here! Did you come from the Friendlyjordies podcast too?
Zeihan is such a good listen. His grasp on the dynamics and chains of globalism and globalized economy is very profound. Though the individual topics are by far more complex than he lets shine through and he does a fair bit of speculation, there's a great deal of information in his analysis of how the world developed since WW2.
well, that was a terrifying way to spend my evening, thank you for the nightmare fuel for the next ten years....
Thus was truly one of the most thought-provoking and fascinating podcasts I have encountered in a very long time.
This was great, Chris. Much more interested in global economics now than I ever was!
If the USA wanted to they would build more destroyers. If necessary they'd outsource naval policing.
@@simontmnwe (the US) are currently disengaging from the world by mutual accord. The US is no longer willing to be the world’s policeman for other countries that are increasingly seeing themselves as our competitors rather than our allies.
Zeihan is a political "scientist" who gets almost everything about international economics wrong.
Peter absolutely describing the futures big picture and the current strategy of the big players trying to cope the things to come. Will I buy his book? Sure. More for my kids, then for myself 😉
That was astonishing interview. Love the amount of Peter's knowledge and how passionately he's sharing it with us. Keep doing it!
Great Interview! I've been following Peter Zeihan since 2015. His popularity has exploded in the last year, 6 months alone. So well done on getting him for this interview. Hope you have him on again.
42:42 "One of the great things to keep in mind about the United States is because the population is so big and so young, and because the land area is so huge and so fertile, we've never had to be at the top of our game. We can relay on geography and demography to do most of the heavy lifting for us, and that allows our politics to be completely batsh*t. And that's where we are now." - Peter Zeihan #Accurate
The US is approaching Civil War
as soon as he said that i was reading you quoting it verbatim
True, but this ignores what actually performs that heavy lifting, where the rubber-hits-the-road, and that is oil. 4 years worth of a man's manual labor in a single barrel. That's a magical equation. Except it isn't. It's a non-renewable resource and we've used up the cheap, easy to produce stuff we need to run our civilization. No more magic for our future, in other words. Oil is responsible for a century plus of seeming magic and it's responsible for the disaster of 8 billion people.
There was a year around the 2000s with 1.8 fertility,it's going down too
Canada too. a great giant protector to its south.
As a Canadian I appreciate you mentioning us and award you the Cross of Canada. And a free poutine.
Have to tell you that your questions were good, but I really appreciate how you followed up with even better questions depending on Peter's answers. Good interview, thanks. Oh, incidentally, I have a cat 🙀
I've yet to see Peter fail to answer a question immediately with all the facts and figures at his fingertips. His breadth of knowledge and recall of information is astounding.
Biden is the same, unfortunately, Biden talks more sense. Talking head says a lot.
@@paranoidballoon8190lol. That’s NEVER been true of Biden even back when he could form coherent sentences
@@cleverkittn Never say never Biden has always been a bad ass liar but He was as sharp as a fox (sly) Watch Him take Scott Ritter down over the weapons of mass destruction that never existed.(redacted) The credit may be bad credit but Biden was a first class politician, Which is not meant as compliment. Drain the swamp. Best Alex UK
I've seen very many interviews to Peter Zeihan, and this one was, by far, the one with the smartest questions.
Great interview, Not surprising with World population. The 1972 MIT Limits to Growth study told us that population would peak around mid-century with a sharp drop, anyway. However, with what Peter is saying, it happens even sooner!
People are always predicted dramatic collapses but society has a way of limping along, for better or worse.
“Boomers had Millennials…He skipped over an entire generation of hard working individuals called GENERATION X who are currently WORKING and will barely afford retirement after paying taxes and pumping our life’s blood into this society.😢
He mentioned Gen X and Z as being smaller cohorts so less of a factor. Good example is the lack Gen X representation in congress versus boomers who held the reins well past retirement age.
He also forgot to mention that companies and successive governments have failed to invest in the up and coming generations eg Xer's and Millennials both these cohorts had to pay their way through universities, unlike our wonderful boomers. Then had to compete with boomers in the job market then had the setback of the 2008 financial crisis. Which affected these two generations. As a millennial, I lost a shi$ load of money due to the 2008 crisis and it took me 12 years of saving again, before I could qualify for a home loan. I think he has a very optimistic outlook, however the reality is much worse. We are left in a system where Xer's and Millennials are unable to look after boomers and also have to contend with some "air heads" in late Millennials and Gen Z, who stand up loud and proud but do not contribute sh$t.
@@blueskye1827The only thing late mills and Z contribute is the sh!t coming out of their mouths. From an Xer.
Boomers are people that started out before wokes took power. They will be richer due to a better system. Go woke go broke.
@@blueskye1827 AMEN!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 You COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND what I said and how many X’ers feel. Thank you for validating - glad we are not alone.❤
I love Peter's beautiful scary brain. I learn so much every time I listen to him. Thanks for bringing him on. 🙏 You ask great questions, Chris!
Illegal immigration aside, it is time to amend the laws on land ownership. Buying/owning land should be lawfully prohibited by those not legally living/working. Those on a work/student visa should be allowed but limited to specific size/acreage. Only U.S CITIZENS and legal residents (Green Card holders) should be exempt from any property and land ownership limits. China does not allow land ownership to a foreigner. Why should we allow Chinese nationals to buy land in the U.S?
Good point, rspdcially whsn most countries have not implemented land reforms within thr last century..
@@Ruzo-yc2wb Totally agree and the same applies in AUS. We do have a FIRB(foreign investment review board - what a handle) which is meant to scrutinize it all, but........a rubber stamp ???
Thank you for introducing me to Peter Zeihan.
................as if this was designed for me personally....THANKS you two! What a party!
"Their dream job is to code alone in a dark closet, and that makes it very hard to have kids." He knows his stuff! -Coder from the dark closet Without a doubt, one of the most knowledgeable people I've heard talking geopolitics, a great example of how understanding all sides of this is what's required to to even begin to think of solutions.
Chris ' retort to that "So you're relying on me and my lot then, fantastic!" reeked of sarcasm. The millennials are fucked too and he knows
but coding is not getting the real work done at least not yet. Muscle and flesh build buidlings not Robots they may help in some way but the real world is where it is at we can do without computers and AI
Coming from a guy who grew up before, cell and smart phones, computers and internet, probably a step in the right direction towards a solution would be the abolition of the need for so many coders. Tech is a double edged sword, on one hand it’s very helpful in industry, business, and finance. And on the other hand, detrimental in terms of its social implications.
Add to that, why people will have fewer kids, is the pushing of the idea that there are many genders. People, specially the younger ones believe this. When men become women and women become men, there will be less pregnancies, just what the new world order want.
*It's the freaks breaking out of the closet who **-concern-** irritate the hell out of me.*
Such a great interview. I think because you aren’t an expert in his field, you were able to get information from him in a way that was more understandable than in other interviews I’ve seen him do, the direction your questions lead him. I agree with Joe Rogan that you are one of the best podcast interviewers currently out there. Thanks for this episode 🙏🏻
Excellent interview! I just ordered Peter's book (The End of the World Is Just the Beginning). Most of the China-related gloom I've seen has been related to poor performance by the Chinese Communist Party. The demographic story that Peter tells in this interview seems even harder to fix.
Thought this guy spoke too fast, glib even. Did some research. Seems his crystal ball is very well researched.
Phenomenal questions Chris. You're proving time and again to be a fantastic interviewer.
Thank you so much for proving this great program. For even us old guys who have lived through a lot, much was learned today.
Not ALL is doom and gloom !Have a blessed day!Bless your heart!
So interesting! Thank you! 🙂
I remember trying to explain what it means when you push more individuals to the older age but they on average still die at the same max age. He did a good job here.
Do they really need to be "pushed" to the older age? You mean forced to work with arthritis and dementia, don't you?
timestamp?
Around 12 min
I used to be realllly into Zeihan, I still enjoy listening to his take on things, but in all honesty, after about 5 years now, I can't think of a single big prediction of his that came true. Can anyone convince me otherwise?
That's the case with most economists if not all. They are almost always wrong since you can't simulate economy full of unknowns. Zeihan's theories are often disputes as they basically expecting countries to roll over and die as soon as some problems come up. Some experts in the field summed it up as: He correctly identifies problems but also throws in what will happen next based on no evidence. For example when he spoke to Rogan he first says: We listen to china's government offices, there are no talks, we know they overestimated their population but then says we also know they don't really measure those things. It's good to listen to some insights but take them with grain of salt.
Why is he not a head of a macro hedge fund making tons of money for his LPs every year if he is so incredibly good at predicting macro? oh wait...
And you would be wrong on this as even a high school senior could confirm. Many people in the US today cannot apply logic and instead go with the news version of events and narratives. Zeihan is supporting his ideas with statistical data that you can look up for yourself or better yet read his books. Many in the past have done this with the same success.
Well, he predicted the Russian invasion of Ukraine at least 8 years in advance. He predicted onshoring and nearshoring as a growing trend, which has been happening. To a limited extent, his predictions of piracy in the Strait of Hormuz has begun. Disruption of Russian oil and gas into Europe has also happened. Agricultural collapse has gripped Sri Lanka. This was due to emvironmentalist policy rather than fertilizer shortage, but this may well spread, if countries follow the UN's Sustainable Development Goals. So he's made a few. I wouldn't expect him to bat 1000, but I can think of a dozen respected economists whose failure rate is much higher, even with much shorter term and more limited prognostications.
@@virus3x2 Actually some of the energy stuff has come true in regards to the Ukraine war. And our politics is completely batshit,,,,,
Ok this guy is fascinating and incredibly smart.
Great interview. Enjoyed it. Thank you.
I really appreciate that you bring people who I’ve never heared of and blow my mind on your podcast. It’s really nice to feel 1% less ignorant every time.
Well done, Chris. I’ve read all of Zeihan’s books and I’ve been following him since his Stratfor days in Austin, TX. Zeihan has been so spot on with many of his prognostications. He is super connected. Some of my friends who are flag officers at the DoD (Pentagon) told me they bring him in quite a bit. So glad to see more people getting exposed to Zeihan. He is dead on with China. On top of that, 1/3 of China’s economy is based on a big real estate Ponzi scheme. This shyt will not end well for them.
but surely there are military think tanks that know (and have for years) everything Peter says and have been war gaming scenarios for many years based on this for instance, when Biden comes out with his cancel Russia policy - resulting in cutting off their exports from the global markets, that when the oil stops flowing in Siberian well heads, that they will freeze, crack, and be ruined for a few decades IOW, there is US military understanding behind this decision that removing Russian fertilizer permantly will put a billion people into famine, probably cascade to 2 to 3 billion, and cause (hasten) the permanent collapse of the globalist system this is deliberate US policy which amazingly the EU, for now, is going along with
The one problem I have is that we skewed things with immigration. If we had not had immigration, I believe that birth rates would have rebounded and found equilibrium, but because of immigration (especially in Europe), the demand for housing and downward pressure on wages, people couldn't afford to have more children.
Which is why it's highly likely that China will go for Taiwan this year.
@@edwardcullen1739 for europe that's correct i think. small places have to urbanise if they have mass immigration. urbanisation = less kids everywhere it's done it seems. on the flip side the immigrants do have more kids than the natives but.... no human society has ever managed ( as we are not) to have multiple cultures in one place with equal rights for all. without extreme authoritarianism, which we are moving towards with things like the loss of free speech and now freedom of movement and right to protest in the uk.
@@gazlives Yep. The data shows that immigrants only have more children for the first generation, but 2nd and subsequent have the same number as the "natives". Based on census data, the "natural" population limit for the UK seems to be about 45 million. We're currently at about 60.
What a cracking interview. So interesting and thought provoking.
Thanks for the education guys......
I've watched several Zeihan interviews, and they tend to just be recaps of stuff I've already heard. Yours is the first that pushed him into new territory and looked at how some of those factors interact. Very nicely done!
I think my favourite element is the fact that Zeihan clearly knows he's dealing with someone who read the damn book, and is now prying at his underlying assumptions. He offered way more qualifiers and acknowledged way more uncertainty than I've ever heard from him. This all culminated in your best question... one that that I've never heard Zeihan asked: "what ways could you be wrong"
100% agree about 2019 being the best it's going to get (at least for a pretty long time)- and just subjectively, it already feels like the 'good old days'.
it's crazy that I actually agree. Weirdly enough, in 2019, I was doing great, had a job, had buying power, paid off debt... then COVID and lost my job. it's gone to shit now.
And that’s when we had Trump and why we need him again.
@@pattyjones6044you trying to get Trump assassinated? They been hellbent on destroying the dude for the last 6 years. You think they were in his way last time? So what makes you think voting Trump is a good idea? There's really nothing anybody can do anymore, it's been so tampered with it's impossible to cleanse it. More powerful men are pulling the strings and it ain't Biden or any politician. If you know, you know.
Nothing to do with Trump, that's just delusional and wishful thinking @@pattyjones6044
@@pattyjones6044😂😂😂 no pal the geopolitical powder kegs where set in place by an inactive presidency Covid was the match that lit the fuse
Wow intriguing
Even in the few points where I may disagree, I find he spoke with such simple clarity that I knew what I was or wasn't in agreement with. On the whole I generally agreed with how he sees things going.
The zoomers are stuck in a dark room doing code? Really? Code nerds are a tiny minority of a population so far as a career goes. Most of them seem to go to university if they can actually muster the expense of the loans (which keeps them too afraid to protest anything effectively) then leave to take on menial jobs run by pirates like Amazon who squeeze out health and workers rights or a decent pay and give NOTHING back. And most zoomers are the working class majority who are always kept in corporate tabloid delusions and are not allowed to earn enough to live on. Most of them haven't a clue how to code.
Hey, Chris, just wanted to give you a shout out for interviews that are thoughtful, impactful, and engaging. Great job!
Somewhat scarey too
This interview was certainly so eye-opening on many fronts. Thanks to both of you! Being a Millenial, I often tell myself I should do more to help fix the world, but as most of us, I feel so powerless. At least, this talk makes me realize that I should try harder.
you millenials have so much bullshit pushed into your face by the mainstream media, i cant believe youre not all totally suicidal. and relax you didnt break the world, its not your responsibility to fix it. we have billionaires for that. they broke it, they should fix it.
Globalisation was fantastic!!!! Maybe in 1975...not 2018 when every product is made by the cheapest labour and Corporations grew into untouchable Monopolies that are now controlling our lives and even fully cancelling an American President. Peter Zeihan is totally out of touch 😕
"Clean your room! (Jordan Peterson!) (that's supposed to be funny)
Ask yourself, can you verify anything that he said? His past predictions have been cr#p.
@@mcata3625 I'm pretty sure most of it is extrapolation, theories, because you can never know for sure how the world's gonna react to anything. Nobody predicted the one we had for Covid, human beings are just too irrational. That said, it's still better to be informed of the different possibilities, to keep on reading and getting opposing views, to stay aware of the state of the world we are living in. And I also do believe that my generation is in an in between two extremes, because we were born before the overtaking of Internet. Very often, we don't fit in the new trends and don't understand them, they feel too disconnected to our reality.
This gives me some hope.
I could talk with Peter all day.
Chris, that was a brilliant interview with Peter. Huge fan of his work and have been glued to the latest output around deglobalisation. His assuredness and depth of knowledge is extraordinary. Your skill as an interviewer is first class and the best combination I’ve seen with him yet. The questions you asked were perfectly timed and sum up what most of us wanted answers to. Peters take on the reality around the China threat was so accurate and as someone who lived and worked there for 13 years in manufacturing up until Jan 2020, I can tell you he nailed it. China is a giant ideological Ponzi scheme, think North Korea with internet access, that doesn’t end well. Compound that with the demographic problem then the bag of male genitalia Peter spoke of becomes enormous. Dictators spend vast amounts of energy jumping at shadows internally and juggling the illusion of power plus there is so much collapse going on there, no threat. Keep up the awesome work, real information is more important than ever.
Just want to say your comment was really well written. A real insight into what's going on over there behind the great firewall.
@@campfireeverything Take care of yourself. Hang in there!
I feel that 1996-1999 was the peak of our western society. The outlook was so bright. No cell phones, internet was just a fad, cheap everything. Those were the peak years.
Probably. The worst thing we had going was Clinton's willy. Oh the simple times!!!
Those were great years for me.
Absolutely 😁
Agreed, attitudes have changed so much since then it’s not even funny
Not really it's just nostalgia playing tricks on you. Take off those rose tinted glasses -.-
Very informative, thanks
Wow, Chris, without dissing any of the great interviews this channel has already done, this one is by far number one. Hands down. What a buzz!
I mean the best ever episode is probably the August 2020 interview with Douglas Murray. One of the KZhead classics of the entire lockdown.
Great interview, highlighting the fragility of the global system. Scary knowing just how on a knife edge everything we've known for most of the past century really is right now
Peter is a CIA plant , he is in Psy Ops .....
@@ZoroastrianNomad he's a geopolitical strategist who has been an advisor to the US DOD, but not a CIA operative. He predicted that Putin would try to take Ukraine in 2022, back in 2014.
Could have told them globalisation was doomed long ago Australia needed to stay self sufficient like it was pre 1973
@@ZoroastrianNomad "Peter is a CIA plant , he is in Psy Ops" Proof? Which of his thoughts are the incorrect ideas being planted by the CIA? Be specific please. It won't do to throw accusations around unless you have at least s.o.m.e. proof.
@@user-jd2tf2mq5e Predicted? Don't you mean manipulated into invading Ukraine?
A broad range of impressive facts with a hyperbolic twist to instill fear.
Great to hear some well explained broad persepctives.
Everybody needs to see this. It's a well spoken summarization of the most prominent dynamics moving the world today. We would all benefit from more of this type of thinking & global analysis. Thank you both for this video!
Peter is a CIA plant , he is in Psy Ops .....
@@ZoroastrianNomad Then give us more CIA plants and Psy Ops then. I'll take this over the modern-day dumb idiot stuff any day of the week.
@@ZoroastrianNomadWhat about the needs of the corporations? They transcend all this focus on nation-states. For him to ignore the global oligarchy suggest CIA.
@@ZoroastrianNomadinclined to think so if he is dod analyst lol. Who you suggest as clean?
So many conspiracie thierys
I love to hear folks say "I'm not a fan of DT but he did do [insert brilliant thing]."
Dream Theater does sometimes have that effect on people.
@@theonlycaulfield So does record wages, record home ownership and record low costs of living. 'It's the economy, stupid.'
@@theonlycaulfield So does record wages and record home ownership and record low costs of living. 'It's the economy stupid'
Absolutely right. DJT is essentially a center-right Democrat.
@@theonlycaulfield I get your comment, don't worry 😂
"We are running out of mature adults." Amen to that.
He said "one of the reasons". He is correct.
Peter is surprisingly funny. Chris asked the best questions. Thank you both!
So glad you had Peter on! I first learned about him a few months ago when Breaking Points hosted him pending his new book launch. I was astounded by his wealth of knowledge on so many facets of geopolitics and became an instant fan. He really illuminates the frameworks to understand major changes happening around the world for the next 10 to 25 years like no one else.
No one, no matter how smart, informed, and prescient they are, is able or has been able to accurately predict the future.
Mike Judge did a pretty good job of it with idiocracy.
@@joebauers3951 Indeed, some people including Zeihan will and do get some predictions right. But on the whole, the world and its systems are just too complex. I do agree with Zeihan and other catastrophists that we are headed for very troubled and challenging times. What amazes me is that he said nothing (if I recall) about the role that climate change is playing in these scenarios. The DoD calls climate change a "threat multiplier". In other words, it makes bad situations even worse. That Zeihan failed to mention this makes me question his credibility. That, and that he seemed to have a neat and clean answer to every one of Williamson's questions. Another big miss, I felt, was the very real threat of a nuclear war. That will loom larger as things grow more uncertain. People who predict the future with this degree of certainty should be regarded with some skepticism.
And it absolutely takes a narcissist to think they are the only one that can
Your forgetting nostradamis
Correct, there are so many "gurus" predicting all sorts of shit nowadays, and to be host, even a blind squirrel gets a nut now and then, but most of them are clueless, they are just about getting clicks on their youtube channel, thats what the whole world has come to ; eyeballs on sites .... clicks. This guy is no smarter than any other and if you shape your life around his babble, well god help you.
GREAT SHOW PETER!!!!
In my simple view of things in this world - and this has served me well for nearly 80 years now - watching this barrage of theory, speculation, smart alec and know-all commentary and "facts", my simple view of the world has been confirmed as the way to go ...... for me and probably for the globe.
Oh.