Joe Rogan | Why Xanax Doesn't Stop Anxiety w/Joseph Ledoux

jesse contreras unfortunately

The worst detox ever

@@BagOfSuck You call it detox, I call it cold Turkey. Withdrawal was like heroin sickness for me

@@bashinknock going cold turkey off benzodiazapenes is extremely dangerous you can have seizures people have died

@@bashinknock I was in a car accident and had to go through both at the same time in hospital, i've been sober for 17 months since then.

nic lecher affect memory loss

What was the question again?

Whats smoking wed8

What were u sayin

You answer your own question already SMH, cocaine is a hell of drug ✌️

Same exact story for me. Well said.

Damn skippy!!!

Makes sense actually

Technically, he’s not wrong lol

My brain must be weird because they don’t really make me tired at all

Except that you are fully functioning - if the dosage is right! It's not our fault some people abuse Xanax as a recreational drug!

Yeaaaaaah that's usually how that dumb drug goes...

Yup

Hack

I can break these cuffs

Ok RDJ lol

Wanting to feel like that ain't a little anxious too?

Yeah but life comes with anxieties naturally for a reason I mean even if you feel overly anxious and want to fix that I mean the answer can’t be to just not feel any anxiety ever. I mean that’s like if you tried to fix insomnia with a medically induced coma.

RANDOM VIDEOS whoa friend you wrote a tome here and I will read and respond to it respectfully but right off the bat can I just say how frustrating it is that every time someone expresses a view different from someone else’s on how to handle a problem the first assumption always seems to be that the person with the differing view must not experience this problem themselves? Like people act like because I think differently about how to manage anxiety this means that I myself don’t deal with anxiety - and they’re wrong for assuming that. I know what anxiety is because I’ve struggled with it first hand for my entire life. So slow your roll.

but make a roller coster cause anxiety and i love as fuck xD

it's an emotion you have to deal with everyday ik it's morbid to say but "Just Get Use to It" I Promise you, You'll be better off.

Canelo White I was addicted to puss I’ve now been sober going on 3 1/2 days

Canelo White congratulations dick head, you’re not supposed to be doing that shit anyways

D R E W S K E never tried it is it worth the addiction?

D R E W S K E how do you find a plug

Do you want a cookie? Stop coming to KZhead to try and brag about fake like accomplishments.

So you abused them.

@@jhoughjr1 yep

Reptar I used it for a few months when i had panic attacks that brought me to the floor. It was safe and effective. I took it for a few months and haven’t had a panic attack since.

You can do this. Only you can set you free.

Good shit brother glad to hear

I’m going through the same thing . Nighttime panic disorder , nothing is working I’m thinking of going on them

So true. I had the same experience and now am able to cope without. The pills stole 10 years of my life and cost me my marriage and countless jobs. I was a drug addict before getting on alprazolam

@@tzinagia3158 Dont do it.I see this was 7 months ago.I seriously hope you didnt go on them.I would recommend magnesium,niacin,vitamin d,b-12,lemon balm,aswaganda,passion flower,cbd oil,edibles,camomile,lavender.I take most of those and I smoke weed.I went down the zanny road and its not the answer.If you drink alcohol try not to because it is a depressant and causes anxiety when your not drinking.There are so many other routes to go.Good luck.

Why should anyone have panic attack in night? Mostly it happen in day infront of people

@@mohammedd270 Almost all of my panic attacks have happened alone at night. You're isolated with your thoughts and they run away on you.

So does a half gram of White Rhino (Canadian primo) bonged through cucumber water. Yes cucumber water... it’s my thing. It removes that filthy burnt taste leaving a better aftertaste if you’re using primo bud that what you want.

Its like a warm wave of fresh relaxing air washes over you... Its a bitch from hell to quit especially if you drink on it

On it rn literally best way to describe it

Do you feel like a warm tingling in your stomach

sounds cool

Goodluck man, you can do it. Been there before...

Good luck. Send me the rest of your prescription. I'm willing to help

I wish you the best!

You can do it brother! Push through it you’re worth it

@@ggalvin1882 Thank you!

Alan I always called em memory erasers.

It was a little worse for me. I thought it was the next day but it was always actually the next week lol.. Thankfully I'm done with both.

@@Wuqz im pretty sober now too. cant believe i used to live like that. i much preferred valium tho. xanax was about as much fun as taking benedryl. when i really need to sleep though, it performed miracles.

@@AlanJWatkins benzos are weird.. im the opposite. i used valium to taper off xanax. i could take 5 blues and not feel a thing. I started my habit with triazolobenzos which are fucked and nobody should take! lol..

Lol

@Ehnus Lover696 it’s a joke

Ehnus Lover696 bro I’ve lost Damn near whole years to Xanax you can lose a whole day very easily. Maybe you got something else going on

Ehnus Lover696 Went thru it for years but after a while something happened where my perception shifted or at least I was able to cope differently. Got off drugs and completely changed my whole idea of myself and how I see things. I’ll never completely understand it but I hope something similar happens for you.and I’m sure it will

@Ehnus Lover696 get better man, if you really want to improve your quality of life you need to put yourself out there, i recommend kick boxing, yoga, just to improve your mental health without drugs

@Ehnus Lover696 Everyone is different, I have lost many a weeks/months memory to Valium and Xanax. Truthfully speaking, as I would give anything to take it all back and be able to say I remember etc.

so crazy cause i do the same thing!! just knowing i have it gives me peace

🙏🏿 that’s great man

Same here!

Lmao when I was going through it I popped 8 and hoped to die. Woke up on a high school track

that's dope, imma start carrying a baggy of coke wherever I go just to know if I ever get too tired it's there to help me

Have the same problem!can I borrow your wife?relax,it’s just a joke!

God bless you! wish you the best

God bless,brother!!you,too!!!

Donate your wife to science; she needs to be studied

🐐

How are you doing now?

@@volkonrubenstien5633 no longer on it, thank god, last time I took one was last June, took a week for the need to go away. Brain feels screwed up though since being off it. Gonna take time to heal.

If you were only taking half a pill a day. You could actually stop completely with no side effects. Proper taper consists of .5 mg decrease a week

@@EnDependance123 yeah I could’ve but my anxiety symptoms were so frightening that I thought I was having bad withdrawal symptoms so it took longer.

try mushrooms

My life was ruined by a doctor-prescribed Valium addiction. He gave me 100 pills with "take as needed" directions (!). That was in 2007. The last 15 years I've lost my career, relationship, everything. The toll om my family was huge. I was 28 then, I'm 44 now. I've tried *everything.* I have a bizarre nervous system disorder that manifested at the same time as I got stuck on the Valium that has tremendously complicated my efforts. We really should be much farther along in neuroscience by now. And we could have been, had we not destroyed psychedelic research half a century ago. It's barbaric that we're still here in 2023. We are finally surging ahead now with new technologies to image the brain and the advance of AI, but even so, we're starting from such a low foundation. In fact in my more despairing moments I feel like I will not be able to get better until neuroscience catches up to my struggles. Hopefully by then they'll have anti-aging medicine too so I can get back the time I lost. (I'm being serious.)

Addiction isnt new. Its beautiful in the right style. But fake drugd are a problem

@@thatdude3977idk what that means, can you elaborate on the beautiful part?

@@qowkhauspqokwhxzsoafjhwmew2924 if you have to ask, youll never understand 🤔✌.

22 years of SSRI use. Also during that process 9 years of methadone, 3 years heroin, 3 years Clonazepam, 15 years alcohol, 15 years nicotine. Never had an addictive personality before SSRI use. That drug ruined me and also made me suffer. I'm in the beginning of the healing process that could last years if not decades. That suffering leads the way to great peace. I don't regret anything.

You just getting high until 4am 🙄

You take rogans? Niice

Calvin Rivera Rogans are just small doses of DMT, legend has if you take the full Joe Rogan you understand all the secrets behind society and eventually develop hair loss

i wonder what would happen if i take xanax, I already have some pretty fucked up dreams every night, sleep paralysis and shit.

there's better drugs for sleep

TheTrueInfection Wow 😮 if KZhead had the gold feature like reddit I would surely give it to you for this comment! Thanks so much.

Thats not how anxiety works idiot.

@@theysaidsouljaaintfromtheh5252 it depends on the type of anxiety, idiot. OP is 100% correct and I've been diagnosed and on meds for anxiety, depression, and bipolar since I was 16. Yes chronic versions of those things will always come back to those prone to it, but that is the best way to deal with it. Meds just make new problems

@@theysaidsouljaaintfromtheh5252 it is how it works on 99% of people. People don't "have" anxiety, they "are" anxious for a reason, or reasons. It's a sympton you don't need to supress because it can lead you in the right direction.

The problem is deeper than that. That's a great way to look at certain problems but it's much more complex than that.

yeah basically

Xanax isn’t supposed to cure anxiety while you’re not on it. You’re supposed to use it when you feel a panic attack coming on. Benzodiazepines are a shit tier drug but can work wonders for people with anxiety

Exactly

where did you ever get the idea that it cured anxiety? They are a band-aid.. And that's no discredit to them. They do their job and they do it well when you find the right drug for you.

It’s not supposed to cure anxiety. It’s supposed to stop a panic attack.

Lol I crashed a car into a house and got my third dui of the year

Meee too lol

I hit a firetruck. Those things are tough

Exactly! I can't believe this dude is trying to say they don't work. Such bullshit

@@balmightys hahaha. Damn bro, just stay at home when u take em...

@@leopitre7907 I hear you, same for me. I was drinking a lot just to get some relief, it started damaging my liver. I realized I couldn't keep going like that. The Xanax was a life saver for me too. There are the assholes that abuse it, and it makes it difficult for the people like us that need it to have a normal life. My Dr. really want's me to be on antidepressants instead, I keep having to explain to him, they do not work for me. Then he just says well, I guess the xanax you take is such a low dose Im not too concerned. I know the state/gov, or someone puts pressure on Dr's prescribe antidepressants, so I guess I can see what he's up against.

Definitely taking it responsibly is the key but I guarantee if u taper off and figure out a way to beat your anxiety without it you will look back at your past and realize that xanax made a lot of choices and not u. Not saying u arent doing good or anything but even small doses have a real effect on judgment when it comes to those things.

@@Slowther87 Im 43, I've had anxiety my entire life, I did find ways to beat it without Xanax in the past. The thing you must understand is anxiety evolves past the remedies, it's a constant battle to stay one step ahead of it. There is no permanent cure. When all the safe remedies began to fail, I turn to alcohol, and that worked for a decade, but then it turned into too much partying, and the anxiety eventually made a huge comeback anyway. I finally got on Xanax, and it was a massive relief, it's been fine for 4 years. As far as judgement, I have no problems there. I have to make good judgement calls all the time, and my judgement has not failed me yet.

@@bootyholeman5659 I dont even mean it as its effecting ur judgement in making poor decisions. It just effects them in general. Again not trying to be negative that drug just effects people in crazy ways.

@@Slowther87 I'm going have to say what you are describing happens when the drug is abused, and/or taken with alcohol. I've taken low dose for over 4 years, I'm a software engineer I have make good decisions/judgments or else Im fired. Have had no problems

Yup

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By definition Xanax and Benzos are a miss period considering if you have a anxiety disorder, then benzos is a inappropriate treatment considering disorders are life long where as the creator of benzos bagged the FDA to create a recommendation for duration... Basically benzos weren't made to be taken long term. If you call any pharmacy and ask them the duration guideline, it's 2-4 weeks max, the reason Xanax is no longer acting like it use to or covering your anxiety as well as it did is because your in tolerance. You're GABA neurotransmitter are use to the medications which is bad because GABA contributes to 78% of the Nervous system meaning your causing long term damage to the Nervous system. GABA helps manage anxiety by producing a calming sensation throughout the body, so when you break that GABA receptor down by constantly either using benzos on a regular bases or you use it as needed which is worse because Benzos kindling is a real neurological issue, but over using benzos longer then a month breaks GABA receptors down while shocking the Nervous system making your anxiety ten times worse this is well recommended. This fools the person into believing that the Xanax is keeping they're anxiety in check but that's not true, it's the opposite... The benzos is worsen your anxiety levels forcing you to depend on the Xanax, this circle keeps going until you break the Nervous system. When this happens you will develop literally hundreds of mental and physical symptoms that no one can explain. The FDA issued its 4th black box warning on Sept 23/2020.you are making your anxiety flare up much worse. In fact the anxiety you are experiencing isn't normal anxiety levels it's enhanced which is why benzos can only cover some of your attacks

Exactly 🤯

for real, When I smoke weed I become very anxious, but as soon as I try to give up my anxiety goes away but depression kicks in really hard. It's sad sometimes, all I want is to have the confidence to go out and live my best life doing what makes me genuinely happy. But in the grand scheme of things, I would much rather have depression/anxiety then no clean supply of water/ bed to sleep on/ food to eat. I think I just need to suck it up and try my best to get through it

Same

Anxiety is a tool that tells us when something isn’t right. Don’t see it as a negative thing but when it arises take the time to step back and observe the situation. You can’t read paragraphs without knowing sentences, words, or letters first

Highly recommend meditation and cognitive behavioral therapy

Had a bad panic attack one day while on the toilet I literally thought I was having a heart attack. As funny as it sounds IT WAS NOT. I wiped as fast as I could and straight to the emergency room .

Yeah like they send you to the hospital they get so bad…. I was involved in a horrible horrible situation.. where a guy tried to rob me for a pair of shoes and tried to shoot me… and i had to shoot him.. so they think i have PTSD on top of my anxiety and stuff so its even worse. I wish i didnt have to take a damn pill ever… but if i take a xanax and just breath and try to take my mind off of it, it helps! If i try to do it on my own i can barely breath

No one who has never had one will ever understand the incredible terror and helplessness it creates.

Plus your stomach turns into a knot. Machine you sweat really bad etc

I had both my of me worst panic attacks after surgery. I did rib surgery and nose surgery recently. Couldn't breath properly to begin with. So I started having chills over my body trembling, coughing , crying with "screams & shoute", my chest felt heavy. You literally feel like ur dying. The nurse gave a Xanax ( first time in my life taking it). Felt better and managed to calm me down. I don't think it's the drug's problem that people use it when they just feel a bit anxious about an exam or the. But severe panic attacks can last hours even going in and out of them it's terrifying.

Agreed. I have bad anxiety Xanax makes me feel invincible. Like I can literally skydive on it n I'm terrified of heights. Great stuff. Until you go to get off of it. Then it's brutal. Better to be sober n healthy

You know what also stops anxiety? Proper diet and exercise!

@@SylasTheGreat it helps but doesn't stop anxiety for everybody

@@SylasTheGreat Not always. Some people have a chemical imbalance that you cant just correct by eating right and exercising. Its just a fact of life. I personally think everything is spiritual. As soon as I got saved by Jesus Christ and really started praying a lot, my anxiety dwindled. And I tried EVERYTHING literally Everything before that point, nothing helped it like Christ. I can't see that being imagination or placebo... But to each their own... Everything begins in the spirit realm...

@@solarpanel8195 not true some people have a chemical imbalance that can't be fixed by Jesus Christ... Lmao see how stupid you sound. What I said is actually grounded in science and yes it can help with a chemical imbalance it's proven it can. You're trying to say I'm wrong but then talk about Jesus... Lol you live in a fantasy land so idk why you're trying to talk about reality

Keep strong dear

Nah that's what herion is for..lol

Hahahahaha Nice man! And Morphine.... well its awesome!

Ahhh this is hilarious

Not cool dude I know someone who took both an woke up from being dead at the hospital the combo of the two stops your heart

Raheem savage tell your friends heart to stop being a bitch.

Bahahah

Damn, depressingly accurate

15 felony’s later

Can't find any of your shit the next morning.

HAHA!! So true. "There is no way I took 16mg of xanax last night. I certainly don't remember taking any after that second bar. Someone must have stolen them!"

Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.

LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."

[_James_tray] Got psychs

@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?

Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts

I also got that effect from Xanax or alchohol, when i would use them . Its from the GABA waves in your brain, relaxing you.

Can also agree although have only taken it once and it was the most wonderful refreshing sleep I have ever had

Not really a comedown till you've been on them for a week then you get rebound anxiety

You probably didnt abuse them like most do.

GABA waves? Wow, you sound dumb.

They don't die everyday for it, people occasionally die from it but very few.

@@TheChurchofCacti no your right. I may have embellished that a little bit. "give me a break im on xanax"

@HONESTO UNO no. The withdrawal symptoms are not nearly as bad.

Don't abuse it. Use it as prescribed and you'll be perfectly fine.

@@pgfrank2351 False.

Exactly how it feels for me

That’s me and it’s horrible it was forever I would take 3 mg or 4 I now have prescribed 3 mg /90 pills I think I need ambien

Goodness 3-4mg is a lot, 12mg is crazy. But I get what you mean, my anxiety would be so high I would take .5mg which is my norm and I would feel more energy without the dizziness and vertigo.

Jesus Christ saves! He cured me of my anxiety!! I speak from my own personal experience.

@Just Ryan I hope you're doing well Ryan.

@@andrewf9557 lol whatever

Just Ryan if you got addicted it’s prob be cuz you’re prone to addictions and likely took too much. For me I took enough to make me feel close to normal, nothing more.

Gary negative u lying stop justifying that man made drug an chemical don’t make u feel normal period anything it makes u feel high ass fuck an complete out of your mindset an no memory of nothing u do

Same.....very dark days

Same except two years benzos and phenibut . I quit cold turkey I was stupid worst withdrawal of my life it lasted for months.

For sure man. I'm surprised you remember how dark they really were

Dark because yall don’t remember

@@emilyb3902 The human body did not evolve with a readily available xanax prescription. Your ancestors didn't need it, anxiety is what kept them from getting killed. You don't need Xanax. We have, however, evolved with readily available alcohol for tens of thousands of years, if not longer. I'm not saying drink in excess, but a glass of red wine every night never killed a soul.

75% of OD victims started with a benzo/opiate prescription. It’s a sad epidemic that, unfortunately, starts with doctors prescribing them irresponsibly. So sorry for your loss, and hope that future medical providers are being trained on the severity of these things.

damn bro, I had an benzo and heroin addiction, luckily in Europe its not as common to mix benzos and opioids with fent. The first week without anything was a horror, I thought I wont survive.

@@ricxwav6061 kudos to you for getting through it, bro. I cannot imagine how awful it must have been.

@@ricxwav6061 big respect that u did it!

So sorry to hear this, lost my sister to the same thing.

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@Psyche_worldz1- haha you know these crybaby therapists and med obsessed shrinks prefer not to talk about personal responsibility.

@@sophiedee2557 - So, instead of just making better choices I can get on drugs? Ahhhh...NO! 😁

mental health professionals are likely to be abusive toward you and label you drug seeking if you want xanax anyway. i never wanted or requested xanax, but i know this because they treated me like crap any time i needed ambien and requested it. i was awake for 11 days once before i got ambien, and i know it's the only thing that works when i need it, so i don't really have a safety net. i've given up on life, there's no way forward. don't lean on drugs and doctors won't help you with existing drugs even if you need them. ambien works well and i've only ever been on it 3 months at a time, 3 times in the last 5 years. no euphoria, no hangover, no withdrawal. i think about keying the last doctors cars who treated me like a drug seeker a lot. since all that i've decided to become a pothead and quit working. screw a society where i get interrogated like a criminal whenever i need help the most.

@Mr. Tonka i'm not in china where they harvest organs, goofball.

me too.! thank goodness for xanax

Yeah as a counter to anxiety/panic attacks they're awesome as and Only when needed , glad they're helping you buddy 👍

Yeah they do work, that wasn't his implication. He more was focusing on the fact that what xanax does is disinhibit & "put to sleep" essentially a whole range of brain functions... Which isn't an actual proper solution to helping ease anxiety, really it's similar to putting novocaine through your whole body (for some reason) just so a dentist can work on your teeth without hurting them. It's overkill & for people who have severely debilitating anxiety that require 1-2 full xanax bars to manage their anxiety - it's also going to be hard for them to function. (Obviously considering they've worked their tolerance up to that point under a doctors supervision). Either way, i'm glad it helps you. You guys don't need to take too much for you to be able to manage your issue - i'm thankful to hear that! But for more extreme situations, I think the only way to deal with it is with social methodology.. Even if you do need to include some anti anxiety meds in there. When I was in my late teens I was put on disability due to how bad my anxiety was, I wasn't able to take care of my every day essentials; nevermind anything regarding working or interacting with the world. The meds only slightly helped the physical aspect, instead of feeling like being on the verge of a heart attack, it became just slight shakes. The thing that helped me the most & eventually (years later) helped me transcend entirely my anxiety problem was the social & mental side of the mental illness. Having loving support was a big part of it too, & I thank god that I've been blessed with the family I have. I don't know what I would've done without them & I can't imagine how much more challenging life would've been for me. I was fairly close to ending it in it's worse, perpetual stages.. But I couldn't do that to the ones who have done nothing but put so much effort into loving & supporting me. I really do thank god daily, not just saying that like a cliche.. I'm 27 & doing astounding, completely self-reliant & achieving great things! I wish everyone who struggles with any illness that they may enjoy the best life they can, I'm rooting for you! You're capable & have great potential of living a beautiful existence no matter what your situation is!

You just wrote the story im going through, how are you doing 2 years after sir?

@@IMOMENTOI I'm doing very well, thank you. I never once became addicted to the Xanax, since I refused to take it every day, but that medicine really helped me a lot. I don't even take it anymore. At the time that I wrote my original comment, I had a very toxic boss, and between working for that jerk, and constantly having financial stress, it was killing me. I have found an incredible new job that's much less stressful, making a little more money. Unfortunately, the financial stress is still there, especially now with all of this inflation, but I'm not waking up in the mornings and throwing up knowing what I was about to go and have to face all day at work. I'm definitely in a much better place now, it just took some motivation to make the changes.

Yeah I got mine own Mushroom, Lsd, Xanax,Dmt and other Psychedelic product 🍄💊💉

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I also relapsed on Xanax and eating bad once or twice but exercise eating right and alkaline-water does help fuck that medication and condolences to you

Benzodiazepines honestly are so so bad

Ok..we'll..the Xanax did not make him suicidal

And yes of your that exercise and all of those TOOLS they teach you..work great....some people really really do need them.They can't walk into the store without having a major heart attack.. panic attack...and they are designed to calm ur nerves and make u forget.Tbats why u forget everything on them..like where u put the keys...at the beginning...but that goes away....but yeah.. people w extreme PTSD..like Vietnam vets ...but they aren't what is going to cause suicidal tendencies.Maybe the antidepressants that u are also prescribed w the benzo....they seem to make people quite crazy

@@aubreyshelton3217 Really really depends on your habits and how much that effects day to day life, I agree that it helps anxiety immensely and can be a tool to help overcome social obstactles etc. But if the habit is making the patient more unproductive, getting in the way of work, responsibilities etc. That can really eat at people and they eventually may fall down a path of depression. And from personal experiences xanax withdrawals can be horrible to deal with hence why some people may feel suicidal

That is definitely not Ian McDiarmad, c'mon...

He does have a palpatine quality lol

I'm not sure if this comment is awful or great.

Unlimited extroversion!!!

And you just won The internet!

It's probably for this reason that I've read articles saying benzos makes ptsd worse and prolongs it. They say people need to feel and work through their anxiety

Stfu

@@tbl5138 he’s speaking facts u must not pop bars

Such an underrated comment.... I never was into stealing for moral reasons and just fear of being caught. On Xanax i steal everything . I could have 500 dollars in my pocket and steal Altoids. It’s like a game

yeah, they turn me into a kleptomaniac

Bro when I was on Xanax I would pass the fuck out for 2 days

😂😂😂

Landing gear

Ooor... Now I can take a double dose meth

😂😂😂 fr dude you've been there then

@Logic Police idk but a couple Rohypnol is the best when I want to close down for the day. But if you're having up for long periods then anti psychotics like haldol might be a good idea

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You off them now tho? Any update?

for me it was ages 20-24, always have the feeling I missed my best years because I don't remember them, nothing, only the consequences you get from those years are my proof I lived them

@@nathan-vm4ss I do them now and then tbh, not as much as i used too; but osmething to make me feel better now and then

Fr smh lol

@@lp.shakur your millenial bruh your 20s arent the "best years" anymore.. maybe 30s if youre lucky

You weren't just taking xanax you were overdosing yourself. I never black out or fall asleep while driving, because I take the meds as prescribed and intended. Not trying to rag on you. Just want to clarify a person can take xanax responsibly for legit anxiety. Without behaving like or turning into a drug addict.

@@myatuesday true just gotta keep the dose low

@@myatuesday what a know it all. Different things effect different people different ways.

@@gobigorange Thanks for making my point for me. It's almost like nothing is all good or all bad. But if someone is ADMITTEDLY saying they were taking too much, it's fair to say using as prescribed is very different than abusing a substance. That's why it's fucked up to demonize a substance based on folks who abuse it vs those who take as prescribed. Sorry not sorry if common sense and very basic logic makes me a know it all.

Great job brother! You.make us recovering addicts proud! Keep up the great work! 🤙🤙🤙

How long did the witdrawal last?

@@petteripunakuono5823 it depends but it was four weeks before I started feeling normal again. I thought I had anxiety but had NEVER experienced what happened when I came off. I went to the ER four times because I thought I was going to die. scared me to fucking death. I'm never willing to go through that again.

Harri The Poet ditto......I’m in decreasing mode as we speak, hence while watching this.. I stopped Prozac ,still using Buspar...should have just stuck to that .... it’s hell but I’m trying to make it as least unbearable as possible...Thank you for not making me feel alone..Dealing with Panic Disorder since I’m 3.... Be well ...

Ive got a friend who has withdrawn from heroin then he was put on benzos and ended up addicted to them. He told me heroin withdrawl is a walk in the park compared to benzo withdrawl as benzo withdrawl effects you for months and months where heroin 2 weeks your fine.

Xanax is different that all other meds 💊💊💊it drives u INSANE & then makes u suicide!!!!

Thank you for adding your comment. I just found this video interview regarding Xanax and neither of these 2 are doctors or good therapists. I too have PTSD that has caused agoraphobia which is debilitating at best and paralyzing at worst. I have been able to fight off most of the symptoms of it but I do take a small dose of Xanax every day. Without it I hyperventilate. I know why I have anxiety. I have been in therapy for many years but the cause of my problems started at a very young age and I can’t go back and fix that. I’m 71 and I still have new flashback memories that I do not want. I’ve had enough. I know what you meant in your comment and these 2 should not be given any type of medical advice about anxiety, ever. 😊❤️

I am so sorry that happened!! I can not stand Pharma bc of incidents like this :-(

What r u taking now for sleep?

How did you taper off of xanax?

@@priyashakya7794 well hopefully you see this, but also full disclosure, i also dont have an 'addictive personality' and i can recognize when something is getting out of control and take action to reverse things before things get to what i consider to be out of hand. This being said, I get xanax pretty regularly, pressed, claimed to be alprazolam (xanax) but could very well be flualp or bromazolam, etc. Though in my experience of dealing with pressed pills, bromazolam for example doesnt have the bitter taste that xanax does, so people will add a bitterant to the mix to mimic real xanax. I can tell the difference fairly well. So my latest plug I have been using I truly believe they are using real alp, and they are not using a bitterant. These pills also seemed to be slightly overdosed, like instead of 2mg bars, they are closer to 3mg bars. I have nodded on them before.. Where as getting pressed bromo bars that everyone loved, I never ran into any issues until i took at least 3 of them (which is crazy considering I dont have any tolerance like that) and I have also mixed the bromo presses with alcohol. (Can confirm, dont do this lol. but that goes without saying) You will black out. You might have fragmented memory, but you will not be yourself to put it kindly. This being said, the way I stopped using them is a simple rule I do for everything. The number 1 most important thing to drugs, is self control. You need to practice self discipline or drugs are always going to give you problems. This is just fax. Lets take something more harmless like weed for example. How many people do you know that smoke weed? I am guessing you know a few people. How many of those people smoke weed every single day - multiple times per day, vs how many people smoke it on occasion. And of the people who smoke daily-multiple times daily, how many of those people could and would stop completely, for 1 single month. Just take 1 month of not smoking any weed what so ever, while having weed in their possession. This is called self control/discipline. You need to have this trait, in order to safely use drugs. Now that we have step 1 out of the way, step 2 comes along. So you have decided you are going to stop, and because you followed step 1 of self control, etc. you stop.... well night/next few days comes around, you arent feeling to well. You are what people call dope sick. At this point you have 2 options, you can either tough it out which will probably be about a week or so of flu like symptoms if we are talking about opiates. From my understand this is not a safe option with benzos. You can have a seizure from going cold turkey. So if you are trying to quite benzos we will move on to step 3, which you can also do with opiates. Refer to step one about having self control/discipline. Because I cannot stress enough how important this is. You will fail if you do not have this trait mastered. You instead of quitting cold turkey as they say, you will do what is called a taper. You will slowly reduce your dose, and the amount of times you dose. You simply want to reduce the amount you take and how often you take it. It is that simple. I will use myself and experiences as an example that you can scale up or down depending on your battle. I would take about 2-3 bars at the most. not consistently either, some days i may take 2-3, some days i may take 1-1/2, anywhere in between. But I would do this daily for ~2 months before I start getting concerned about addiction so thats when I refer to step one and I try to regain self control. unfortunately for me, I b wild, so i dont even know A]. If I am in fact addicted, and B]. what am I even addicted to? because I also use opiates tho much less frequently than benzos minus kratom. I abuse the fuck out of that but thats only for the most part have access to pressed 30s which we all know are fent and I just dont need to be around that or expose people to it so if im not getting 5s out of a pharma bottle from an old man, im not taking oxy, period. This was a moral choice I made. Back to the quitting of drugs though. So The first thing I would do in my case, is immediately reduce things down to 1 bar per day for about a week or so, usually less. I would take half in the early part of the day, and the other half in the later part of the day. I did this with no ill effects. Then I started reducing further, busting the bars into quarters and 3rds, and just taking what I felt I could get away with. But a High emphasis on step 1 and the self control I was talking about. I wanted to stop, not forever, but to prove to myself that I was indeed in control of myself and actions and not lying to myself. This worked perfectly fine. Disclaimer though, I was also trying to quit kratom at the same time, and because I was using such low doses of kratom, ~2.5g-3g per day, twice a day, I was under the impression that I was not gonna get withdrawal effects from cutting back. I went from 3g 2-3 times per day, to 2.5g 2-3 times per day, and I noticed negative effects, but I had thought it was from the benzos. Long story short, it was absolutely from the kratom, I felt minorly sick going from 3g-3times per day, to 2.5g 2 times per day for about a week before I stopped getting sick. It wasnt bad, but it wasnt good either. At this point im basically not even taking xanax, maybe 1/4-1/3 of a bar a day, and thats just to help me sleep because i was dealing with the opiate withdrawal lol. The reason why I put such a huge emphasis on step one, is because it is the key to all things. I can get these things whenever I want. I might have these things on hand. So the ability to have access to them, and choose to not use them knowing you dont feel good and it will all go away if you cave and just take it, is the key to success when dealing with this issue. I am currently occasionally using xanax cuz why not, but not regularly by any means. And I currently have my kratom doses down to 1.5g-2 times a day. I may go for a 2g does 1 time per day in the afternoon for 4 or 5 days, and then reduce that to a 1.5g dose per day, and then I will just stop. I have done this before, so i know what to expect. Best case scenario, ive quit kratom/benzos cold turkey and strangely had absolutely no side effects other then increased anxiety but it was at a time when even taking them would still have left me with anxiety because i was dealing with a lot of problems in my life (death of a parent, covid lockdowns early on, pretty bad time in my life hitting me all at once, on top of my own personal health scare) But other times I have experienced withdrawals like I am currently, and though I think it is the kratom rather than the xanax, my methodology stays the same. The worst case scenario I have dealt with, is I didnt feel very good and it lasted LESS than a week. Hvae you ever had the flu as a child growing up? like being sick for 4-5 days? that is what it is like at its worst if you follow these steps. You can overcome it, but you have to want to overcome it. Thats why step 1 is the key to unlocking the entire thing. tl;dr Just taper by reducing your dose, over an extended period, whatever you feel comfortable with, and then you need to gain control of yourself, self control is key in this whole thing. at some point after reducing your doses and periods of dosing over the selected duration to lessen any harshness you might experience, you have to cut it. Be prepared for a few to several days of unpleasantness. But like a kid with a cold, you will overcome, and you will be back to normal. The problem with addicts is, addicts do not want to stop, they are stopping due to external pressures of society. If you truly want to stop, only you can make that happen, and its much easier to do than you think, but you have to want it. Self control and Self discipline are the keys to unlocking this superpower trait into beating addiction. I use drugs, I dont use drugs, Ive been addicted, Ive beaten addiction, I am in control. I dont want to sound arrogant, but doing the things ive done, addressing the issues, and taking control of the situation, has given me a super power view of the world in a negative way in which i see my friends who smoke weed, who refuse to admit they are addicted, but refuse to quit smoking weed for 1 single month, let alone a day. they smoke all day every day, and woudnt even consider quitting for 1 month even if i tell them to smoke again after they have quit for 1 month. They wont do it. I dont know if its because they dont want to, or its because they cant do it, but it makes me feel like I have a special ability in which I can control my desires better than other people. This makes me feel better about myself and my own flaws which we all have. I am in control of myself. I wish you the best of luck in your life's journey. Quitting doesnt have to mean forever. But make sure you are the one who is in control. When you have lost or given up control, that is when the problems starts. Much love and stay strong!!!

@@priyashakya7794 If she took low doses, there isn't much to taper. I had an almost identical experience to hers. I too took it during the few months after the sudden, premature death of my Father. I took one or two of the lowest dose pills (.25 mg) most everyday for 2-3 months then when the shock was wearing off, I just maybe took a few a week (approximately), then none again. The people that have to really "taper off" are eating them like candy and often at higher doses. Withdrawals from higher doses for a long time CAN be deadly and just need to be tapered down in a common sense way (provided someone can do the math), or discuss with a physician. Also NEVER take any benzodiazepene with alcohol - which is another problem people have. Probably 90% of people DON'T take it correctly (which really should only be "as needed" anyway for a short-term solution and NOT a long-term regimen). Too many unethical doctors back in the day, and too many idiots taking too much giving it a bad name. If taken responsibly, benzodiazepenes are excellent medications for what they are intended for.

@@npkrn6764 You throw out statements without any evidence to support them. "The people that have to really taper off are eating them like candy..." - What an ignorant thing to say. I work in healthcare and this is simply not true. Benzos are highly addictive and are usually only prescribed for about a month...when you go beyond a month the risk for dependency goes way up. That has nothing to do with "eating them like candy". Your assertion that 90% of people don't take it correctly is another sign of your ignorance & borders stupidity. Please tell us where you get your 90% from? What is the source? Where is this data? It doesn't exist beyond some stupid comment you make. Many benzo scripts are written as PRNs for anxiety/sleep/etc...and they can't be written long term. Read the comments in this thread...a number of people describe being on them for years. "unethical doctors back in the day"...what does that even mean? SMH

Sounds like you're doing it right. ✌ Best wishes.

It seems like you didn't do whatever you could to make your body and mind healthy first though. The fact you were still drinking before you got put on meds tells me you might not have tried hard enough to deal with things and you rely on crutches too much.

I got a cousin that used to be like that. Massive panic attacks and prescribed xanax. After a close encounter with death the panic attacks stopped and the xanax too. Amazing how the brain works.

If you have anxiety you shouldn't drink. When the alcohol leaves your system it'll just come back worse. You have to deal with the roots of the panic attack, if you suppress it then it just manifest into something worse like anger or rage or whatever it may be

@@flavorgainz7205 that's how it goes alot of times. Near death experiences are basically long term anti depressants for many people

This is what religion used to be for since it's a form of meditation, and this worked for me too, accepting things being another big part as you describe. Glad you're better brotha!

Anthony E dude, I was about to write all the same things.

@@iwantallthepizzaanduranium1627 I am addicted to this, how do I stop.

James Griffin if you are addicted, DO NOT STOP COLD TURKEY. You need to ween yourself off. Meaning, if you’re taking 2 a day, start taking 1 1/2 a day for a week or so, the. The next few weeks, take only 1 a day. Please do not take my advice as medical advice. That is simply what I have read and heard. Please contact your doctor or nurse and ask them how you should taper off. But please don’t stop suddenly. God be with you and please let me know if I can help in any other way.

@@anthonye.2553 aight man I will, I don't have a prescription, I just started self medicating and now I can't stop

James Griffin my friend, I am not a dr. I am not qualified to suggest anything to help you. But from some experience, I would ask if you actually want to quit. Then if you do, I would recommend starting your journey to find a dr that wants to help you get off narcotics and maybe find another non narcotic med. I tried several. What worked for me was a small dose of clonadine...not Klonopin. And another med called mirtazapine. Everyone’s different. What I use most likely won’t work for you. Having family that loves me also really helped. I couldn’t have gotten anywhere without them. Good luck and best wishes

It took my overdose to get Dr's to take my situation better .

find another doc. just dont go seeking for xanax as the end all be all.

@@meganknieling5033 Sometimes non- benzodiazepine mental health anxiety medication does not work. doesn't work for me tried everything. For about 16 years.

I just don't care anymore ! Don’t contribute to the problem. Smoke weed

@@ijustdontcareanymore1022 Try Jesus Christ. My anxiety brought me closer to God and through Him I live a more joyful life. Not that you'll be cured over night (with faith it is possible, if the Lord wills), but when you have God on your side, fighting the fight and wrapping His arms around you... That is far more comforting than any pill. I speak from experience. Repent and turn to Christ. He is calling you! "These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33 I encourage you to see the things Jesus spoke of in the Gospels. Especially if you feel like there is no other help in regards to your anxieties.

Hey that sounds interesting. Could you maybe give me some advice on doing that?

exactly what happened to me, as an amateur occasional weed smoker, my smoking started picking up with friends in my last year of school. We all went ham with no tea breaks, stoning everyday coughing poppers and fat bowls because we had a nice bong with a percolator, so smooth we could go at it forever. my conscious mind would always be ruminating, i came to realization about a lot of things, my mind would be all over the place. My anxiety was so prominent when I smoked, months ahead after smoking, I feel as if I've matured and as if I've done meditation or something, I completely logically tackled every means of anxiety and overthinking that I had, I realized what my brain actually thinks about and that I've been using it wrong. I litterally helped my self pull through by just thinking for months worth of smoking (with tea breaks). I learned a lot and it boggles my mind to this day , I love weed. without it I wouldve been a clueless dweeb.

I got into much more physical activity and I've started to take notice on my posture etc, I'm just overall in a better state of mind, I feel like a wise guru

Ignore Adam's comment it's a bot/fake account spaming. Yes you've been taking way too much you're most likely go through withdrawal. Valium is the weakest of the benzos, Xanax is 10 times more potent. For 1mg of valuim,that 1mg equates to 10mg of Xanax. You've been taking way too much. It takes on average 7-10 days for dependence to form and sadly you kinda just have to work through the withdrawal as unlike opiates, rehab just isn't a option for benzos. You can go there but the success rate is less then 12% because they don't deal with psych med dependence.

There is something about when I smoke weed while on a Xanax withdrawal it seems to make it worse. Trying to get off these stupid things. I would rather smoke a little weed any day over Xanax.

@@nancylittle7507 yes it does make it worse. I have over 20 yrs of experience of getting off than back on benzos so if you need help ask me. I tell Drs info they didn’t know. Alprazolam is one of the more intense detox’s but it will only last 4 days physically

@@EnDependance123 Thank you so much for reaching out. I truly could use your help. Been on Xanax 3 years. Want off them so bad. They used to give me .25mg. 4 a day. They cut down to 3 a day. I am down to two a day. Thinking maybe I can get by on one a day. How do I get ahold of you.

What "toxins" are those?

@@madscientistshusta Acetaldehyde and other toxins that kills cells in the body causing serious issues including death.

@@madscientistshusta Alcohol itself is a toxin

@@onthetoilet8397 I think it's not the toxins so much as the downregulation of GABA and the resultant rebound anxiety affect as the body adjusts. Saying "toxin" is weak chick thinking.

Trick with drinking is to drink lots of water and eat lots of food...I mix my beer with iced water...think of it as cool refreshing water with some beer added...I don't enjoy straight beer anymore and I used to drink close to a case a night...great way to moderate your drinking...you will thank yourself the next day

Hey bud

We can control what we think ~ unless, we're sick.

@@bradpaton3927is that right doctor? 🧐

I'm on Adderall for my ADHD. I'll confess I was initially relieved to hear all that may be needed was a pill to help manage my symptoms. While the pill does help it doesn't do everything unfortunately. I didn't truly manage my symptoms until I learned more about non-medicinal techniques such as mindfulness, cognitive behavioral therapy, emotional intelligence, and growth mindset. I've dealt with anxiety of course, and I very well could've been on a drug like Xanax. Thankfully I did the work to learn more about my mind, and how it works before that ever happened. Benzodiazepines are a terrifying internet rabbit hole if you ever want to go down it.

You took them for four years straight? Gee I wonder why you have worse anxiety now... I don't understand how people who abuse this medication don't realize you need to be careful with it. It's not even fun to take everyday and I love xanax. After like two or three days I'm like ok I wanna be normal for a little bit now.

Joe "Burt is a great guy" Rogan.

He gave pawn stars all of their connections. They had no "friends" until he dropped by.

@@TheRailwaystationist When he was talking about him at the end, I totally got the impression he was talking about Burnt Chrysler too.

LOL WAS THINKING THE SAME.

@@RandomVideos0809 hes talking about Joey Diaz

I have severe anxiety aswell and have tried marijuana 8-10 times. 90% of the times I have tried it I have broke out into full blown panic attacks where I felt like my heart was exploding out of my body. I’m terrified to do marijuana but I hear so many people say that it helps them. Wish it worked for me man.

@@blob3106 smoke some indica, a strain with high cbd and low thc

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Praxis71 same it’s useful for work induced anxiety

Thats because you use it as prescribed. These mofos overdosing on Xanax are taking almost 120 times more than you. They keep taking more and more. Then they stop breathing. Its sped up with alcohol. Thats what happened to Greg Giraldo.

Ryan Regan absolutely! Abusing any drug is always harmful. And yes, I’m well aware there’s many people who abuse it and try to amplify the effects with alcohol. That’s absolute lunacy.

Teaching isn't that bad lol.

@Herr Wolf because were fat inconsiderate fucks that stole this land from the natives. with out drugs we might realize were completely fucked and the whole world hates us.

Meditation and breathing therapy. The only thing that keeps mine at bay. Please try❤

How awful were those withdrawal right? I was taking Benzos for a little while but was never really aware of the risk of what would happen if I suddenly stopped taking them. For one reason or another I stopped taking them, those withdrawals was the worst thing I have ever experienced!

23MG is a shitload of a dose. I can't imagine anyone would be good on that dose

Never needed more than .5 pd in two doses. Didn’t have panic attacks. not related, just heard joe say, she was on xanax and drinking... lol

@@TangoNevada Believe it or not, at the time, I was the Service Manager for the third largest BMW dealership in the country; Two kids, yuppie wife and a $2200 per month mortgage... lot's of responsibilities that I shouldered while no one around me had a clue as to what I was struggling with. I hid it pretty well. I wasn't given a script or dosage protocol during the study. The Dr literally gave me a cookie jar full of 1mg's and said: take one... if you still anxious, take another. Brilliant advise, eh? I pretty much ramped myself up to that dosage over the year and a half. Withdrawals were miserable. Had one seizure, and the hospital tapered me off with librium. Had certain success with bio-feedback for a while... actually, the longest times I went without episodes is when I participated in group sessions with others who suffered the same. Just knowing I wasn't alone and NOT crazy, AND, that the episodes won't kill me truly helped a lot. Don't know if this makes sense, but having people around who understand the condition and give you space to freak out every so often without judgement, REALLY helps.

Your bang on. It should only be used for panic attacks not daily use. Daily use will quickly get you addicted and tolerance will shoot up really fast.

Exactly

@Greig91 yes they Xanax takes About 25 minutes to hit the Gabba receptors.Also the psychological effect of taking something and knowing that relief is coming is almost immediate.

for how long have you been getting that medicine?

Xanax huh yeah lot of single childless close to Middle Aged women who just live on the stuff , that and meth and crack heads who take them to sleep haha

Know what makes taking it horrible? When the "this drug is bad" cycle comes around for them and the doctors start cutting dosages.

Get some help please. Your family loves you for all your flaws and you’ll get through this. God loves you.

@Rocky Balboa Are you talking to me?

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