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“He has 3 wives and the mystery of this entire novel is why they even like him” this is the ultimate proof that sexuality is not a choice
*choke on my saliva*
@@reynhacoezy5510 hot
@@seignee I don't shame fetishes but-
mee kai Uhm
@ronak Mina don't knock it till youve tried em
This book sounds like it's meant to raise awareness about gaslighting by gaslighting everyone who reads it
his 3 wives were literally gaslight gatekeep girlboss
Lmao 💀
no but actually LMAO wife 1: gaslight (literally gaslighted wife 2) wife 2: gatekeep (she was jeaous or something and wanted the guy to herself LMAO) wife 3: girlboss, the only one who had a kid i guess
@@gothkuratayes that is what they said
"She likes hiking, sushi, and autobiographies. What a bore!" Thursday, your hobbies include pottery, Netflix, and setting the table.
With vagina flowers
Don't forget sucking the husband's dick, both literally and figuratively.
You know a character is one dimensional beyond all reason when one of her few hobbies is *t a b l e s e t t i n g*
You forgot her real and only hobby: Seth. Checkmate athiest
I don't even LIKE pottery! (it's a reference don't kill me)
“It’ll all be revealed later and it still won’t make sense” sounds like a thrilling novel about me in math class
ill do what i did in my calculus exam, and just walk out of the room
Yes that is true
But, like, same. 😩😂⚰⚰
"Do ThE FloWerS RemINd YoU Of My CLiT!?" "Ma'am, this is a McDonald's drive through- "
i said the same thing but in Wendys at this moment xD
Minty Bubz I said Starbucks lol
Ma'am this is Wendy's-
Ma’am this is a KFC
He don’t cook he don’t clean, so how he get that ring???
I love this comment
He gobbled it, swallowed it, dripped down the side of it‼️
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@pinkytoedestroyer this has 69 likes im not gonna ruin it
Seth's only personality trait is he likes Mexican food
I've read this book twice and that is far more accurate than it has any right to be. And you said it better than I ever could. Kudos to you.
@@blackgobbogaming4236 How can you be certain that this mexican food bit was ever even real in the first place? ofc I mean "real" in a story sense, for all we know he just threw a hotdog and some grapes on the table and she decided to have the affair on the spot.
@@TecTitan it's obviously fake because Mexicans aren't real
but does he really? i honestly don't even know
that and gaslighting
“Don’t listen to women in abusive relationships, they’re all cray-cray” the book
I raise you this: "Gaslighting", the novel.
crazy*
@@Kkanonr/whoosh
@@mollycblaeser r/woooosh*
An over thirty minute compilation of “Are the straights ok?”
ah yes
Haley Wagner The straights aren’t okay
Humans in general are not okay
Straight people: "Omg I love you and I will give up evertying in my life for you" Me and my boyfriend: "Bruh" "Bruh"
I am certainly not okay 😌
the fact that colleen hoover herself rated this 5 stars in goodreads 😭
they are friends, one of CoHo's side characters is named Tarryn after the author and I'm mad bc Tarryn is a cool name and now it's tarnished
i think she dedicated one of her books to tarryn 💀
NO WAY. 😂
Augh, she would 🤮
They wrote a book together apparently 💀
Wow that transphobia CAME HARD out of fucking nowhere
I like to think of it as a last minute inclusion by the editors to deter anyone from reading any further.
NAH I JUST WAS WATCHING THIS LIKE "Ew nasty finger fetish fanfic" as a trans woman with my bf AND I LITERALLY SCREAMED INTO MY PILLOW LIKE WHERE DID THIS COME FROM
Where's the transphobia?
it's at 10:39 @@piretiris8223
@@piretiris8223 somewhere in the middle of the video, the writer says that finding out (something or other i dont remember) is like finding out a man is “really a woman”. its a ‘joke’ about trans men
THIS BOOK IS FROM 2019????? WHY DOES IT READ LIKE A 2009 WATTPAD/QUOTEV STORY???? I---WHAT???
Joy M more like 1889 penny romance
omg you just unrepressed quotev from my memories
You didn’t need to remind me that Quotev existed and yet you did anyway
The fact that you know what quotev is is amazing. I never hear from them lmao
2009 might even be too modern for this lol
when the female characters are so unimportant they're named after when the man interacts with them-
@@rayven5534 I agree .
I love your pfp, can we be friends.
But Tuesday gets it on Thursday, no? Nvm, the subtitles played a number on me.
@@EmilyHernandez-jt4cs don't trust green hair
@@rayven5534 can we not insult fanfics pls
I kid you not . . . the line "Whenever I meet a girl, my ovaries basically become like a boxing glove and I'm ready to beat her ass" had water coming out of my nose. I cannot breathe. Oh my god. I love this.
IKR this book should be in r/badwomensanatomy 😭
😮
this is inspirational. andrea tate who???
I hope you were drinking water, otherwise I’d worry where it came from
How did this book go from vagina flowers to alternate realities 😭
IKR
The plot thickens...
reading this with no context is crazy 😂
Me: “mum can we get the Handmaid’s Tale?” Mum: “we have Handmaid’s Tale at home” The Handmaid’s Tale at home:
Christian Gorgievski I was 666th like 😎
I can say lol now because I laughed audibly for the first time at a youtube comment.
💀💀💀
Or like walmart version of Girl on the Train
CRYING
And here I was, naïvely thinking the twist would be he had a wife for every weekday. Seth wasn’t dreaming big enough, in my opinion.
Ngl, that was my initial guess too
as someone who has schizophrenia and experiences delusions/hallucinations, i'm realllly tired of authors using psychosis as a cheap plot device
Worse when they use it as some sort of twist or for ExTrA DrAmA...like...no? If it's something that is REALLY important set it up in the story beforehand (and DO. IT. WELL0 instead of making these things seem like they're NOT actual things that people live with daily???
This literally sounds like a sexist boomer joke made into a book.
YES
Someday, son, you will want to marry a woman. You want a woman who is beautiful. A woman who is smart. A woman who is wealthy. And most importantly, you must make sure that these women never meet. 🙄
@@irishalchemy It's not quite enough for laughter, but that joke is more entertaining than this entire book.
"It's not that I don't have a personality, I'm just unhealthily obsessed and base my personality off of a person who doesnt even see me for more than half of the week."
goals!!
I love how Seth just takes more wives when he finds out something inconvenient about the previous one. There’s no discussion beforehand, no mutual decision, no actual desire for or attraction to another loving presence. The only driving force here is babies Doesn’t want kids? Better get a new one Had one miscarriage? New wife time At that point it’s not even polygamy, he’s just hoarding women
Seth is a picky man
😂🤣 idk why but I lol’d
Seth needs to fuckin share bruh
He makes Henry VIII look like a saint.
That's basically the plot of Sister Wives.
Him explaining his 'poligamy' because he's from Utah is just like when Lele Pons responds to everything with "I'm latina!"
"I'm Latina!" "Lele, you just killed 500 people."
when cindy said “in utah you gotta get the puta” i actually cried laughing
The beginning of the book had a strong premise. What if thursday somehow found out the identity of one of the other wives (without her husband knowing) and finding out the other wife was brutally murdered. The police suspect the wive's missing husband. A mystery/thriller story about Thursday finding the identity of the other wives in order to warn/save them and slowly uncover her husband's real nature/job. It could be interesting to see her question her relationship, herself, and her sanity. What if the murdered woman isn't another wife at all? What if she's imagining things? (Spoiler: she's not) She has a dilemma of "Do I tell my husband? What if he's innocent and my paranoia ruins our relationship? What if it's true? Am I prepared to love a murderer? What if he hurts me too? Is he really capable of that?" The book already has themes of emotional abuse and gaslighting. They'd work well in a book like this too. Instead of woman hating eachother for no reason it could be about woman coming together to overcome their abuser.
This is far better than 'she went crazy' twist.
Instead, why not you write it? Albeit different? For it seems very good and original.❤
Write a book I'm begging you
I was actually thinking this would’ve been the plot since I briefly forgot that we have been warned that the plot makes no sense 😂
🎉love it! Write this book, it sounds good :))
When I pick up a book called "the wives" it doesn't deserve rights unless it ends with the wives together and leaving their crusty husband to make pottery. It's the only valid ending
YES!!! I SUPPORT THIS
Three women with cottage core just vibing and living together. Growing plants in their greenhouse, kneading dough, painting and just living aesthetic 😭😭 a whole dream
Or if it’s lesbians XD
@@jellyfishb3ans Women living together in a cottage with a greenhouse making pottery and kneading dough? Lesbianism is ALWAYS implied *aggressive finger guns*
Man, I wish the plot twist was actually that Seth did have three wives but only Thursday knew about the polygamy. And he just manipulated everyone into thinking she's crazy. Because then all three women could dump him and get their own happily ever after
@Black Knight Fool A: I'm not a lesbian B: I didn't say they all end up together. Women can have a happy ending in fiction without being in a relationship
@Black Knight Fool how does criticizing a book make someone a "lesbian incel"? Because none of the issues brought up were about the fact that the narrator is attracted to men
Black Knight Fool projecting that you’re an onto others truely reveals who you are
Ngl I read all these comments thinking that everyone started their comments by calling this person a Fool like some uppity grandma in a period drama
Also it’s sounds like the other woman
As someone who's polyamorous and is in a very happy polycule, this hurts my soul. Like, my girlfriend has four other partners and there is no competition between us whatsoever. I'm friends with all of them and there's no "bouncing around" or whatever. I'm also trans and neurodivergent, so this entire book is just one big 'fuck you' to me, huh?
Same my guy- to everything lol
mood. I can do poly or mono relationships and like it's so misrepresented here. I get that it's polygamy but I still feel like even in that situation the women would like know each other and live together. like wtf
This book is targeting you specifically huh.
Heeeey, fellow ND trans peep! I'm also polyam but currently painfully single 😅
i somehow dont believe any of you... (except the part where youre single)
Don’t polygamists try to have their partners live in the same place, or at least close to each other? Imagine how exhausting it must be to travel to different states EVERY WEEK. At least space it out to different months. How does he work? Does he ever get jetlag?
Portland and Seattle are north-south from each other, so jet lag wouldn't really be a possibility, but like. Three hours is still way too much. I've driven that far for a day trip but I can't imagine doing it every week.
@@incognitoburrito6020 3 hours is also REALLY generous, in reality it takes like 6 hours because traffic.
@@incognitoburrito6020 Not even every week, but every few days, since he visits each wife on different days.
Also imagine having to pay for all the gas for each trip😂
and expensive 😭😭
This doesn't sound like it was written by a woman nor by someone who understands polygamy.
I KNOW RIGHT IT MADE ME SO SADD IM A POLYGAMIST AND IT MADE ME SO SAD TO SEE THATS WHERE IT WENT :((
@@LuckyLittleLoki SAME I CANT TRUST PUBLISHED BOOKS!! ONLY FANFICTION CAN BE TRUSTED AT THIS POiNt(if that tags hint at it being properly represented ofc)
Trust me, it's not just some men who write like this, a lot of women write stories like this book to satisfy their fetishes
@@coralia.i9702 recommend some good ones to me? 🥺🥺 This one sort of ruined my brain cells
@@shellyyas depends on which fandom you're thinking of? Each handles Polyamory differently. Undertale by far has the healthiest polyamory fanfics I've seen and it's surprising ngl. They do actual research or are actual Polyam people who know how this works. On the other hand, you have anime polyam and most of them are pretty toxic and use a lot of tropes and myths about being polyamorous.
I remember hearing about a man in a polygamist cult with 5 wives, and once his daughters started getting into their teens he started to realize how deeply abusive their church actually was. So he obviously wanted to get his family out of there, but that meant having to convince all of his wives to leave basically everyone they’d ever known, and he had to be incredibly careful because if anyone in the church figured them out they’d basically kidnap his entire family and he’d potentially never see them again. Like writing a thriller about polygamy is not hard in the slightest, that shit’s super intense in real life.
That sounds more suspenseful and interesting than anything in this book... Although calling it a book makes it sound way too legitimate
Watch the series Escaping Polygamy and you'll see it as it is in real life.
Damn.. That could have been an incredible thriller.
the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) is a great research topic if you like being sad
I think that story (or a very similar story) was in an episode of Escaping Polygamy; it was some off the wall stuff. That show is so good but so sad at the same time; a lot of these situations are so tragic.
The whole idea is literally stolen from Girl on the Train. Woman with abusive, gaslighting husband gets obsessed with other women who he is connected to. One of them a perfect mum and housewife, the other career-driven and of course main girl also had a miscarriage/fertility issues. Only difference is that Girl on the Train was actually good lol.
Funniest thing about this was when Seth mentioned he was a polygamist because he was "from Utah", probably referring to the Mormon practice of polygamy... which has officially been illegal ever since Utah was a state. Bigamy (having two wives) was just recently decriminalized from a 3rd degree felony (jail time) to just a fine. The author had literally no idea what they were talking about, just heard that Utah was Mormon, that Mormons were polygamous, and did no further research.
So wait. One miscarriage and she is definitely infertile?? Miscarriage are tragic. But not incredibely rare. And definitely not a definitivr sign of uncurable infertility.
i guess they just gave up after the first miscarriage and moved onto a new wife
In Chanelles review she mentions that she had to have a hysterectomy which is when you have to get your uterus/parts of it removed making you infertile.
This is the prequel to the handmaid's tale
My mom had two miscarriages before having me soooo 😬😬😬 not an incurable disease. Miscarriages are sadly not that rare. Also can society stop shaming women for not immediately popping out a perfect baby.
@@withcindy isn't that the only reasonable response?
And also I love how the flowers weren’t actually necessary, because the moment he steps into the house, she’s already on him. The dinner decorations weren’t even useful in any way.
its about SETTING THE SCENE
i’m deeply concerned about the author. does anyone knows if she is okay? she desperately needs a therapist and some classes about feminism.
people keep asking Hannah for a tour of her house because she never got rid of the 'for sale' sign when they bought the place
"Played my spine like a saxophone" ah yes, Careless Backpain
im never gonna bend again, guilty spine have got no rhythm
@@withcindy I'm never gonna bend again, the way I had to bend before *LOUD SAX*
i choked holy shit
*I WHEEZED-*
This makes me think of that one Kurtis Connor video "straight people need to stop" where there's a lady who's being played like a violin😳
In school we learn about conflicts like man vs. man, man vs. self, and man vs. society But what schools aren’t teaching us is my favourite conflict: Cindy vs. the YA agenda
THIS ISNT YA .
@@withcindy THAT'S the real plot twist. It was YA all along
I prefer this kind of story, reader VS author
Geen Stagni How about women vs women vs women lol
As a mexican: yes that conversation feels racist in an unsettleing way
The author: "This book is about polygamy" The book: Actually it is not. Like did I understand that right? It wasn't polygamy, it was serial cheating in monogamous relationships????? Like that is not polygamy???
Is this a YA? -Plain-looking, but actually a bombshell -Her whole personality is based around him -Male love interest with even less personality than that
Bruh, I already commented an hour ago. Might be drunk
unfortunately it is an adult book
but without some categories/houses to sort everyone into, is it really a ya?
Yep seems to checks all the boxes
We love it when characters/people with mental health issues are labeled as crazy and dangerous! It's very cute and so woke! 💃
so cute and quirky!!
OH NO I CANNOT ------
I can’t this author clearly has no knowledge regarding mental illnesses
especially when those mental health issues are triggered by their piece of shit boyfriend ???? jfc
@@gracegiammarresi665 Actually, as a psychologist, that sounded relatively accurate. I've certainly seen much worse. Off the top of my head (and minimizing details to avoid HIPAA violations), I saw this client who wanted help to get his son out of drugs because his nephew was a bad influence, and had been in jail and now he (the client) was being targeted by the FBI. In reality, he didn't have any children, and was an only-son living with his parents, whom he'd hit sometimes. He truly believed his delusions. Obviously, that case was more fitted to med. magmt. than therapy, but it was still very interesting to assess. Yes, mental health patients are much more likely to be the victims of abuse than the perpetrators, but that doesn't mean they are not capable of violence. In fact, violent outbursts are a common symptom of schizophrenia when there's damage in the amygdala. So, this convoluted plot, actually sounds believable to me. Most patients are not like this, but some are. This is a book about one person, not about several mental health patients with varying degrees of functionality. Books are often about one strangely peculiar individual (or group), not about the average Joe.
Can I just say, this author lowkey-no, highkey stole from that one Netflix movie called 'where is Monday?' it makes perfect sense. Only, I have to admit, the movie actually made sense. And it was less about libido and more about dystopia.
That movie was great! Such an intersting concept!
Do you mean "What Happened to Monday?" with the seven sisters?
@@lizewilcox9898 yes! That's the one.
Yes! I literally thought about that movie when I heard the names So original with naming characters, author 😒
Yeah that movie was fucking wild The one of the only things I really remember from it was when one of the sisters took someone's disembodied fucking eyeball and used that to open a retina scan door.... *Shudder*
This is an insult to vanilla ice cream.
Not to be sexist, but this doesn't sound like it was written by a woman.
honestly i forgot that it was written by a woman so many times, until something referenced the author specifically.
I was thinking this in the first 5 minutes. I am try to find out if the authors name is a pen name
Sounds like it was written by a brainwashed woman...
i really was convinced this was written by a male author ngl
Death Omen Does this book give you any indication that the author had an entire brain?
Sometimes self care is smashing a woman's head into the ground of your psychiatric ward.
Lady walks into the cell of a mentally ill woman who tried to murder her once before and shot her ex in the knee, just to taunt her about the very thing that set her off in the first place. Not going to say "she deserved that" or whatever, but when she said "I'm helping me" she ain't exactly lying. Makes it pretty funny to me.
I snorted 🤣
JANDJDJD YES
I just started the video WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
_[*Confused face*]_ ... _What?_
Woww ... The disrespect to the “mental illnesses” Thursday apparently suffers from ... This is actually disgusting. I can’t imagine being someone who actually struggles with schizophrenia and delusions and having to read about this awful, ableist portrayal of mental illness where the protagonist is continually called crazy and only given the help she needs after it starts affecting other people??
This book is the definition of "The straights are at it again."
Lady in problematic book: I don't like Mexican food I'm not like the other girls Me: Weird racist sexist flex but ok
JUST kidding HAHA what sort of MESSED UP PERSON doesnt like MEXICAN FOOD ?!?! TACOS EVERY DAY !!! im quirky
This book being written by a woman is why we still need feminism.
yes.
I refuse to believe that this was written by a woman
@@jadahoizer9668 same.
@@jadahoizer9668 internalised misogyny is a bitch
@@jadahoizer9668 It gets worse when you check out reviews for her previous books and you realize she apparently self-inserts all the time. Her protagonists are all inspired by herself.
Wait, she stood on her tiptoes to reach his mouth but, ears are higher up than that. How'd she reach those so easily?
You clearly missed the biggest twist in the book, that the husband has been a giant bipedal basset hound all along.
Your beloved wife turns out infertile! She has a miscarriage and grows depressed and miserable. What do you do? A. Comfort her, make her feel loved and important, stay close to her. Reassure her that she’s not broken and it’s not her fault she’s infertile. B. Find another womb.
I like to think that “setting the table” means spelling the word “vagina” in pink rose petals
I’d like but 420 bruv
666 oh sht
Damn they got both of the sacred numbers. Respect.
🌹 _V 🌸 A 🌹 G 🌸 I 🌹 N 🌸 A_ 🌹
You- you mean that’s not what it is ??? 😳😳
From now on, if anyone ever asks me to explain myself I’m telling them “I grew up in Utah.”
thats my deep background story
I think the implication is that he was raised Mormon? Since they have the sister wives thing
@@EmissaryofWind yeah, I think that was the point
As a person who lives in Idaho the book does make it sound like he is
@@EmissaryofWind that's the only thing I know about Utah : It's The Mormon State. (I'm not from the US btw, so who knows how accurate that is)
Honestly, lesbianism is the way to go. I have never read this book but when you were talking about the Hannah part I genuinely believed that the plot twist was going to be that she was bisexual/lesbian and started falling for Hannah, and honestly that would have actually been a pretty cool twist
Omg a poly & lesbian book?! If only!
Nah
The moment I read the book's blurb, I thought for sure the wives were gonna meet up, divorce Seth and fall for eachother. The story had so much potential....
wait, WHY would it be a plot twist for Thursday(? the names are so meaningless at this point) to not actually be married to him. they couldn't- you can't- polygamy is illegal? it's a lifestyle arrangement with no legal status, the doctor/seth or whatever saying they were never married means nothing materially in disproving her recollection*. my brain feels like mush.
In her delusion, she was the only legal wife. So it's kind of a plot twist that she was the only person who was never married to him
“This just somehow feels racist” I’m Mexican and was thinking the same thing lmaoo
glad u confirmed
Like in _Fault in Our Stars_ when Hazel and Augustus complain about eating Mexican tomatoes.
@@Sunzu49 Or kiss in a Holo Caust museum lel
Could u explain to me why it is racist? Bc I dont understand
blacktigerpaw1 CFC g hi
i'm a minute into the video and i can already tell you the book would be 300% better if it ended with all three wives ditching him and becoming a polyamorous trio
AGREED!!!!!
EXACTLY!! And also without all of the mental illness and sexism mumbo-jumbo. This book can go directly into the trashcan, along with Seth after he got yeeted by the Whole Man Disposal Services
I swore it was gonna end with the girls ending up to together--
I'm dead 😂
WHAT I WAS THINKING
I swear every book my mom reads is this book with a slightly different plot.
SHE ACTUALLY OWNS AND HAS READ THE BOOK
I-
@@Ava-zn3qm did she like it?????
@@joohra_ yes 😭
@@Ava-zn3qm oh god 😭
Him gaslighting her is a far better twist then "she is just crazy"
hearing Cindy complain about awful books is such a confidence boost to my writing
Same like as long as it's not that bad I'm fine with it
I'm glad it inspires you
readwithcindy //honestly when I’m writing something dumb and I realize it, my mind just goes to you insulting that scene with a weird sexual innuendo
You call Thursday a TERF, but she definitely isn't a feminist if she thinks women who have careers are insufferable lol
@@neatodude3339 'terf' is as much of a slur as 'Karen' is
@@turtuluna8720 Did you visit the site? It's full of receipts.
@@neatodude3339 man that's bonkers, but I don't remember asking
@@turtuluna8720 that's cool, it's hard to think critically sometimes. Ignorance is bliss
@@neatodude3339 🐢🐢🐢
damn i didnt expect main character to be a terf, the ability to get pregnant being central to one's worth as a woman, AND the man being a bad guy must be cus he went thru sexual abuse as a child ALL TOGETHER in one book goddamn!
tell me why seth has a slice of white bread personality and three wives while im over here dying alone
This book has it all: Anti-polyamory, anti-feminism, transphobia, Utah.
the perfect recipe
Utah joins the states everyone clowns on
oh god not utah
Commodore Luigi yes, alongside Florida and Alabama
@@trees____383 you forgot new jersey and California lol
Knowing something like this not only got published, but was a NY Times bestseller, gives me so much hope for my own writing career.
Yet so much less hope for humanity
Me too
Same honestly
Honestly me too
To be a NY bestseller in no more something wow, any author who reaches a certain number of books sold enters there
The thing that really frustrates me and breaks my heart about these kinds of stories is that people with schizophrenia/psychosis are not inherently violent and are in fact way more likely to be the victims of violence and abuse. Even moreso with this book because of how (unintentionally, I guess) close it gets to depicting exactly the kind of domestic and psychiatric abuse that people with psychosis suffer. The way Seth immediately pivots to gaslighting Thursday as soon as he’s confronted (you’re crazy, you need help, you changed, I’m calling your doctor) and then escalates to physical violence? Using institutionalization as a threat and a tool of control? It’s fucking textbook. And yet the “twist” at the end is to say sike! Thursday really *is* crazy and violent and dangerous and needs to be incarcerated 😌 it’s lazy, it’s disheartening, and it shows that psychosis to Fisher and so many other pisspoor authors is just a narrative tool to them, not a reality that people live with in the real world and suffer horrific abuse and stigma because of.
Huge comment alert I am so sorry Cindy, but I had the idea and couldn't stop thinking about it Ideas to make this better: *Lean real heavy on the gaslighting*!! Thursday's dream had always been to be a mother and she is really excited for the baby, while Seth is afraid Regina will try to use the baby in the divorce proceedings as a reason why she should get all their assets. He tries to make her miscarriage but only succeeds super late into the pregnancy, making her suffer a late-term miscarriage and physically and painfully deliver a baby she already knew was dead. This fucks her up and also due to complications, she will never be able to have children again. She enters a super intense post-partum depression and needs 24/7 psychiatric watch, but Seth instead decides to hire someone to watch her. Thursday starts taking really strong anti-depressants, anti-psychotics and tranquillizers - Seth begins to get tired of the situation and decides to secretly move in with his girlfriend, Hannah, telling the nurses and Thursday he's working. He's still her legal guardian so he needs to meet with the nurses every once in a while and notices the medications leave her in a near hypnotic state. He manipulates her into accepting the situation we see in the beginning and by the time she is released from care, she completely believes the lie. He convinces her to change jobs, ghost her friends and family, even be more dedicated to him sexually. Hannah thinks Thursday is his psycho ex-girlfriend who tried to kill him and herself (which is why she's so afraid of her when she finds out the truth) and is manipulating him into being there for her and since he's such a """nice guy"""" he's trying to get her better. They get married at the courthouse a few weeks before the beginning of the plot. Regina thinks Thursday is a gold-digging, home-wrecking sadist who does everything in her power to make Regina miserable and is manipulating Seth into refusing to grant her the divorce (in order to keep using her money and properties). Whenever Thursday confronts Seth, he is so confident in his narrative that it makes her question her reality and sanity. He keeps threatening to call her doctor but she vaguely remembers feeling terrible after her last treatment and refuses to go, making a scene every time it's brought up and lending credence to Seth's lie. Much of the conflict goes the same way, etc, etc. The big reveal will only happen when the three women finally come together [seth has manipulated them so much that whenever two of them communicate, they always assume the one that is missing is to blame for what's happening] We end with Thursday admitted into a mental institution, but this time not being drugged continuously, actually getting help and facing her trauma and beginning to learn how to cope, supported by Hannah and Regina who visit her regularly and are also in therapy (outside the institution). Reasons this is better: commentary on gaslighting, abusive relationships and how often abusers tend to use other people in their lies and even if they don't even know it, those people contribute to the imbalance of power in the relationship by legitimizing the abuser's narrative; also a commentary on how women with a history of trauma and mental illness are often discredited and treated as insane while that trauma is used as ammunition to vilify them to others. If you read through all this leave your opinion
I like it. You should write it.
@@Thenoobestgirl one comment is absolutely all it takes. I'm on it
This is so good.
let me know once youve finished it because im interested!
@@KatBaumgarten Checking in for updates
I feel like this entire book can be summarized with the John Mulaney quote/meme: "Now we don't have time to unpack all of that."
Rose Rambles yesss
or BDG's: and honestly I do not have the time to unpack this bullshit.
Alternate Title: “I read the sequel to You by Caroline Kepnes, but with an emphasis on interior design, subliminal messages, and polygamy”
she is the female joe goldberg
that's legit what I thought 😂
Hidden bodies is not this kind of bad
The main character is called Thursday and it's not a long furby? That's enough to make me leave right there, what utter heresy
I was so disappointed by this book. I was really hoping for a women on man revenge plot where the wives get together and make him answer for his shitty treatment but alas... I remain disappointed
Miscarriage --- yes it must be the fault of the woman's eggs. Gotta find one with better egg quality. What the actual F.
NARCISSISTIC 😒
but that turned out to be poison And than that reveal was revealed to have not been a real reveal but a fake reveal to hide the real reveal that the main character is the worst kind of unreliable narration.
Henry viii's life motto.
This is the prequel to Handmaid's Tale
@@lesbiangoddess290 FOUL
Ok, but like, I highkey hate the message of this book. My cousin has had several miscarriges that were absolutely devastating and the whole “woman goes crazy after miscarriage” thing is disgusting. Thankfully, my cousin is fine now, but I’m still mad at the book. This should have gone on Wattpad, not through an actual publisher.
i agree, it was so gross
To be fair, she seemed crazy before the miscarriage
In wattpad it might end up reported and deleted 😂
nihil est enim as it should be
@@verybarebones So you're telling me even folks on wettpad has more sense? God whoever approved this has some screws loose in their head.
how does that doctor even know every little bit of her delusions
When she started hanging out with Hannah I legit thought she was gonna fall for her and be obsessed with her. If that was the case I would go and buy the book without thinking lol.
"He has 3 wives and the mystery of this entire novel is why they even like him" Me @ 98% harem and reverse harem anime
I'd like to think Ouran is in the 2% lol
At least My Next Life As a Villainess shows exactly why everyone loves the MC in a realistic way.
@@purelysmetalnightcore ohmygosh yess i am absolutely loving that show Like the characters actually have some flavour on them instead of just being pretty cardboard cutouts
@@DingoTheDemon ouran is one of the best in my opinion ✌🏽
The most boring protagonist thats kindaaa cute : *exists* All the other hot guys or girls : you're the love of my life i would do anything for you, if i cant have you i'll settle for your newborn daughter
Petition for Cindy to go through r/menwritingwomen
The emoest of them all omg I hope she does
Please don't make her suffer more
okay, signing my name, Random Promises
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
Especially John Green That would be chaotic
This feels like I'm hearing myself try to explain the dream I had
The lesbian plot twist would've been a good one for sure. Especially if Regina joined in the end after they save her
No
@@piretiris8223yes
I was hoping against hope that all the "wives" would get together and kill Seth, realize the worth of other women, then date each other, but I see they went the hallucination route instead. Okie dokie then.
Emilie Chi Same- we all have too much gay optimism
Literally started plotting something like this when I got to the part about the bruises on Hannah’s wrist
That sounds like an interesting story. It could work to inform people about polygamy. First starting out with a bad, harmful version which people might first think of, but then showing a healthy, beneficial triad relationship. It could deal with female empowerment and discuss topics of abuse and healing
That's so *seen it all*
Agreed!!!!! The whole Regina blaming Thursday for her marriage ending thing, and Hannah being more concerned about Thursday than her husband cheating, just pissed me off. Yes both parties are to blame when someone cheats, but it’s Seth who betrayed them, why isn’t Regina trying to ruin Seth’s life instead of Thursday’s? And then to antagonize her after finding out she is crazy and had delusions about what was going on, what was she thinking? None of these women have any brains!
Better alternate plot twist: Thursday and Hannah realize they're both gay and leave Seth to start a new life together
thats what i said!
@Black Knight Fool who hurt you
@Black Knight Fool yeah who?
yes.
And maybe Regina can join in too!
This was written by a nice guy,a pick me girl, someone who doesn't understand polygamy ,a stepford wife, a 1800s or 1950s house wife ,a wattpad writer ,or someone mocking something. I refuse to believe a woman wrote this.
Me, blinking rapidly at the end of this, trying to tally everything up: "Okay okay, so we've got. Jesus. Uhhhhhh. Weird romanticized infidelity. Many and varied forms of misogyny. Extreme ableism. Victim blaming? CSA which ends up being completely glossed over. The thing about Utah. Not even Mormonism, which could conceivably be a poorly-handled but valid attempt at criticism. Just Utah as a geographical area. Jesus Christ, um. Emotional abuse. Stalking. Gaslighting. Still ableism but make it Edgy and also completely inaccurate, and also how the fuck is The Fuckboy in a wheelchair for the rest of his life (inferred from the limited text) because he got shot in the knee? Was there no reconstructive surgery available or...? Also, is pregnancy trauma a thing? I feel like that should be a thing, what with all the miscarriages. Implied murder? More victim blaming. I'm missing something... Theft? Can you steal a house? Because that house that Hannah (and The Fuckboy?) is living in legally belongs to Thursday, so did they end up moving out or...?" Thank you, Cindi, for taking yet another one for the team and saving us from this gross nightmare of a book. You're a true comrade. P.S. Oh! I'm also gonna throw in "villainization of polyamory" (polyphobia???) as well, just for the hell of it. Like, I know the story wasn't even about vaguely-Mormon-y polygamy let alone actual polyamory, it was just about cheating and misogyny and ableism, etc., but I feel like, from your descriptions of the first half of the book and then the eventual turn into Whatever The Fuck That Was during the second, there's a non-zero amount of authorial bias against polyamory. I dunno, maybe I'm just assuming bad faith where in this case there isn't any... P.P.S. Actually, you know what? Like that thing about Mexican food, I'm gonna assume bad faith. Adding polyphobic and racist subtext to the list. One Yike.
Oh FUCK I FORGOT THE *TRANSPHOBIA!!!*
Having read this book, seth is so obnoxiously basic calling him vanilla ice cream is an insult to ice cream. At least its sweet
He's just ice. And not even the kind that tastes good for some reason. The kind made with unfiltered tapwater.
Lizi Pearl The fact that I instantly tasted it as I read this and gagged 💀
If he was written more charismatic and charming and manipulative in an interesting way (to read), the story would make so much more sense. Like a cult leader, you know?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is just vannila essence, smells nice but tastes bitter
This book could have legit been written in like 1890 when "hysteria" was a common diagnosis, and it would not look out of place
And more interesting considering the period cure to hysteria is fingering.
@@cavejohnson4306 good reminder, cheers!
As someone with mental health issues, having the main character constantly feel lik they're being gaslit only to be told that "they're crazy" would put me in such a bad place. It would genuinely trigger me I reckon. You can have an ableist TERF as a protagonist, as long as there's another character to tell the reader that that opinion is bollocks. One wasn't present so I'm left to think that the author genuinely believes these things herself which just makes me feel gross personally.
When I was listening to the subliminal messages, vagina flowers part my brain went “Pussuasion” I’ve been laughing for a solid month 😂
Don’t you love it when a people tell women their only purpose in life is to have children 🥰😍🥰😍
WE LOVE TO SEE IT
✨Love that 😍😍😍😍 ✨
Dude giving birth is hard and painful so no thank you
😍😍😍😍😍😍
I’m convinced this is just a Wattpad story that was accidentally sent to a publisher, and they said “meh, why not? 🤷🏽♀️”
Hey, not all wattpad books are bad! But, you're not wrong...
I promiseeee you I’ve read better wattpad books😂😂
@@Certifiedhellfire 😊 me too
I've read better stories from Wattpad
The fact that there could easily be a sequel that’s like “It was actually a conspiracy this whole time and Seth and Regina have just been gaslighting the shit out of Hannah and Thursday because they’re serial killers dun dun dun”
I was so hyped and ready for Thursday to be all 3 wives and being an unreliable narrator and I'm so sad that didn't happen honestly
This entire book is basically just **”Sir, this is a Wendy’s”**
GAHGSHJAHGshj
@@cinnamoony3996 sir this is a burger king
@@corv3007 THEY’RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK WDYM THIS IS A BURGER KING??????
@@beelieboo you play obey me 🐱
@@theunstablewoki6022 yeah-?
Honest, the whole thing felt like everyone was gaslighting Thursday the entire book.
I wanna feel sorry for Thursday but her personality is just a Seth obsessed woman so nvm
They are. Thursday is following the perfect Molly Mormon code. Then people in society start labeling it as really messed up, which it is. Then the rest who can hide the cult crazy a little better gaslight her and pin the sin on the donkey.
Cindy isn't impressed by that book but she makes it sound terrifying. About not knowing what's real.
@@darkhearttantibus2766 what if her obsessive personality is a result of the gaslighting though 🤔
the whole time u were explaining this i was CONVINCED the plot twist was gonna be that actually all the wives are the same person and she just has multiple personalities, but honestly i think that would have been better than what it actually was lol
That would have been way more interesting
I also thought this was gonna be the plot, something like " The Ward" where she thought she met the wives, but those would've been her personalities and somehow they would dissapear so she gets better, I would've like this plot way better lol
I watched your review and like a year later I was shelving at work (librarian) and I needed to read it just so was my hatred of this book was valid as my own. After finishing it a few days ago I must ask: how dare you spare us from some of the worst parts of this book? I got 20 pages in and had to stop and stare at a wall for a while after reading her describe herself post-coitus. Disgustang.
the three wives should have all just gotten into a polyamorous relationship without him and ran off into the sunset together-
*Facts* 💅💅
the good ending
But before that they team up and kill Seth
No. They should have not. Running away from the abusive shit? Good. Polygamy anyway? Bad. And sad. Hard to tell what more.
@@slevinchannel7589 I mean, the comment said polyamorous, polygamy.
Can we all agree that the label "New York Times Best Seller" is a participation award?
I know, isn't that sad???? But at the same time, I'm like damn, I might as well just go write my book.
THANK YOU
tru ! so many "NYT Best Seller" books aren't amazing... T_T
Right???
cloud ill l)ll)alllll W××××
I made the mistake of reading this book. This book gave me trust issues, I haven't been able to read a thriller ever since. You bashing this book gives me immense pleasure and finally some closure.