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In today's Triple-T (tools, tips and talk) #166, I'll attempt forging stainless damascus. This is my second attempt at this project. Let's see if it will work.
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What a cool idea. Stainless damascus is my nemesis!
If it were easy, everyone would do it! 😜. Thanks for watching.
"If at first you don't succeed, fail, fail again." That's my motto.
Absolutely... success is a terrible teacher. You learn more from failures... and then you get lucky. 😜. Thanks for watching.
Excited to see where this ends up
You and me both! This will be my weekly triple-t for a while until I have a final knife, or it fails. 😜. Thanks for watching, Christopher.
I like how you made the canister the length of your dies so the initial presses were uniform across the billet.
It was necessary so I could press the whole thing at once. 👍. Thanks for watching.
Great Video Tyrell,very helpful tips 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching, Timothy
What a great video for today 😊😊
Hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Ecco un altra lezione sul damasco,ci è piaciuto,grazie Maestro🙏
Grazie per la visione, Maurizio!
very cool Denis ...well done.
Thanks for looking!
@@TyrellKnifeworks Always something to learn and always well worth it Denis. Thanks for sharing
As a commercial plumber i was wondering about that welded coupling. When we braze Med. Gas piping we also use argon as a perg made me smile when you got everything all tuned in nicely done 👍
Definitely ditching the coupler next time and going with good ole welded fitting. Thanks for watching
looks great ! cant wait to see more on this project
This is going to be the weekly triple-t for a while until it's finished, or it fails. Thanks for watching!
Very Nice Buddy ❤ from Germany
Thanks for watching, Phil.
Nice job bud!
Thanks for following along! Stay tuned to see it progress!
Learn something new every day ❤
Thanks for following along!
sweet! looks great!
Thanks, Richard! Hopefully the restacks go as well and I have enough steel at the end for an actual knife. 😜
This is a great series, my brother! Congrats on the successful forge weld, and I can't wait to see the finished pattern! Thanks for sharing. 😎👍🏻🔨🔥🔪
Well I’ve got a few more restacks to go first but I’m hopeful I’ve nailed the process. Thanks for watching.
So far, so good! Hopefully with a low oxygen environment in the forge you can get it on the mill and squeeze it along a little more. Not sure how it'd go in a press as they tend to suck the heat out of it fast and it'll air-harden along the way. In any case it'll be a real learning experience and its very interesting to see as mostly everyone who does this kind of stuff has some secret process they don't tend to share
It moves much better in the press than the mill actually. I preheat the dies so it doesn't lose as much heat. Stay tuned! Thanks of watching, Kris.
Действительно интересный способ сварки нержавейки . Мне всегда сложно давалось сковывать нержавейку , часто бывали непровары . В последнее время , я обычно навариваю нержавеющую сталь дуговой сваркой и затем проковываю . Конечно так не получить особо сложных узоров , но хоть нету проблем с непроваром .
Этот метод намного проще, потому что аргон очень помогает. Однако это довольно дорогостоящее мероприятие, учитывая цену нержавеющей стали, аргона и потери материала. Я понимаю, почему они такие дорогие. Спасибо за просмотр.
Round 2! FIGHT! ❤😊
Ha, well I won this round but the fight isn’t over! 😉
@@TyrellKnifeworks may the forge be with you. 😁
I've had similar ideas, never got past the thought experiment stage, yet...
Awesome!! I am sucker for stainless. Next up, timascus.
Ha, that’s a totally different beast. That takes almost lab-like conditions. Thanks for watching, Ben.
Looks solid. Do you etch stainless the same way you do high carbon steel?
No, ferric won't really touch it. You need Muriatic or hydrochloric acid. Thanks for watching.
Try a vacuum weld. IE weld the steel all the way around ceiling it all the way up with no opening. this way works for my forging technique. If you are trying a can put a peace of cardboard in the bottom of the can. then weld the top on. the paper will use up the oxygen creating a vacuum. and dont coat the can just clean walls.
The problem with the vacuum is that you have a chance of exploding your can. The inert gas insertion is much more reliable in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
Nice video. Did you use mild steel or stainless steel tube?
It was mild steel on this one. Thanks for watching.
There are stainless pipe fittings. Might be worth a try.
There’s no point spending money for nothing though. They are sacrificial anyway. Thanks for watching
Argon is heavier than air. Now that you have a vertical heat treating oven you could fill it with argon when you do your heat treating to create an oxygen-free environment inside the oven. Argon is an inert gas and won't react with the hot steel, so no scale. It's difficult to use with a normal oven because it's hard to keep the argon in the oven, but with a vertical oven that shouldn't be much of an issue.
Yeah that’s certainly something to think about. It doesn’t help the forging/forge-welding of the SS Damascus billet though. Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks No, but when you mentioned Argon it popped into my mind.
Possibly use stainless pipe and couplings to prevent problems with deterioration?
Too expensive. Just welding the pipe to the can works perfectly. It’s a $4 part that’s consumable each time. Thanks for watching.
Oh my... These STAINLESS steels have are 1% carbon... Respect. Ops my bad, wrong webside, AEB-L is 0,7, but still sounds so hard to forge.
AEBL isn’t the problem actually, it can be forged decently. It’s the CPM154 that does NOT like to be forged. It has a very narrow temp range or it cracks or won’t weld. Thanks for watching.
Might take a look at these fitting from McMaster Carr P/N 4513K63 or 4513K413. These are forged high pressure fittings and should stand up better in the forge environment. Jim Mojave Southern Machine Works
Honestly the fitting gets destroyed no matter what so there's no point in spending money on them. Welding the pipe directly to the canister is the way to go. Thanks for watching, James.
Denis, did the Argon still seem to feed into the canister after you started pressing it? Seems like once the billet started consolidating there wouldn't have been room for the gas between the layers, but you were there and I'm sitting in front of a computer!
only an assumption for the sides of the canister didn't stick so in theory the gas should still be flowing through the sides
Exactly what @dragonwing4ever said... the sides buckle so the argon is still flowing through. By the 3rd or 4th press, it's welded anyway. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for watching, Brandon!
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Thanks for watching
I love your content. If you ever are looking for a project, i designed a longsword. I'd be interested to see what you think
A longsword is on my todo list. I'm not sure I'll get to it this year, but who knows. Thanks for watching.
Lots of best practices, grinding off all the outer edges of the initial stack. Oops with the cast iron.
It worked out well. Strange that one of the steels moves much more than the other though, which scared me when I opened the can. Seemed to work out though. Thanks for watching.
I have been hearing you for a long time mentioning the word Damascus in your work. Does this have any relation or connection to my city of Damascus in Syria?
The patterns in steel were popularized in the city of Damascus, Syria long ago because that's where many of the weapons of that time were made. The process of making what's known today as crucible steel or "Wootz" steel actually came from India. Today we create patterns in the steel by layering different types of steel but its referred to with the blanket term "Damascus" because of its origins. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks Thank you for this valuable information
If your cannister is good, and rusty inside the top and bottom doesn't stick so well to the billet.
Yeah that works sometimes. But it seems the best way to forge weld something is when you don't want it to weld. 🤣. I could have also put some stainless foil in there on the top/bottom. Maybe next time. Thanks for watching, Kevin.
@@TyrellKnifeworks so true
Believe me, you are smart. Anyone would make the same mistake.
At least I learned it now and not later and had a failure after a lot of work, time and money! Thanks for watching.
Might as well use the term "pattern weld" unless making a crucible steel. There are a lot of idiots out there. Best not to fuel their ignorance
Or just don't care what others think and keep doing whatever you want. When someone says damascus I know what they are talking about and so do 90+% of others. In fact when people start spitting out the old but damascus was lost to time and only made in the butthole of the seventh sons seventh son then I automatically tune them out because I know they know nothing about what they are talking about and I don't need there blubbering in my life.
@@cae2487 exactly. You would think someone making steel would know better then to spread more crap.
words take on different meaning as time goes what your saying as og "damacus" we call wootz or crucible steel and "pattern welded" we call damacus now
its not ignorance nor crap its just terms have changed in the modern world for what we call this stuff, rather then arguing semantics that effect no one just enjoy the video and people who put time and effort into this craft to keep it alive
No customers know what "pattern welded" means. Using that term is only for book-snobs that want to appear smart to others and use specific terms. We all know what "damascus" means and if we wanted to refer to traditional damascus, we'd say "Wootz". This is a hot point for me and I don't accept this stupidity of using a term that nobody but knifemakers and book nerds know just to pretend to be precise. Stop it. Nobody in bladesmithing cares and our customers certainly don't care.