What Happened to SuperM - The Dumbest Idea for a K-pop Supergroup that Almost Worked
Let's be honest, the time that was SuperM debut was absolutely INSANE. SM Entertainment literally just made every K-pop fans wildest dreams come to life. Not only that but invested so much time, effort and especially money to make it successful. But was it actually? Or was it all a big show formed from the mind of founder and former CEO Lee Soo Man? So let's go back and take a look at SuperM debut, music and what happened to SuperM.
SuperM was the DUMBEST Idea for a K-pop Supergroup that ALMOST Worked | What Happened to SuperM
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:01 What does it take to create a K-pop supergroup like SuperM?
4:08 Was everyone Jopping to the debut of SuperM?
8:47 How SUPERM was ALMOST over before it even started
10:38 SuperM actually going 100 and Breaking Out
12:44 Why did SuperM stop? Will SuperM comeback?
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What Happened? Covid happened then Military Enlistment happened
Exactly ! COVID happened.b
covid really f'd up a lot of kpop groups lol even bts, i feel like they would've won those grammys had they not been forced to cancel their tour cus that was the last crucial piece in their western market takeover. they were so close
Right and now LSMs nephew is destroying the company and Taemin has left SM . Oh well, I still have my lights tick.
Don't forget the financial scandal and HYPE attempted takeover. I honestly believe those hurt SuperM's comeback were teased last year. Honestly, SuperM should've been back the moment BTS announced their military enlistment. I know it's not that easy, but it was a missed opportunity.
Tryyy...to drama🎉🎉🎉 They'd Amezing !! Just great live performance :)
The fact that their debut was jopping is kinda funny
jopping is a bop, I used to be a hater of the song but be real the only song that’s good in super m
ITS SUCH A BOP
@@Booniestbf, the song has so many good parts (ESPECIALLY THE VERSES 100/10 THEY'RE ACTUALLY INSANE) but I think the arrangement takes away from how good it could be. I don't hate it but when it randomly plays I usually listen to the verses and then skip
@@imnaevis fr
It was so boring and they were advertised as something different Jopping was a joke.
For a SMTown artists stan like me, SuperM and GOT the Beat were dreams-come-true. I still love these groups a lot, but i understand that they are busy so anytime SuperM and GOT the Beat have a comeback, i'll treat them like precious collabs.
Honestly same
I mean it could have worked, if only they had been more consistent. I get they were all in existing groups but they needed to make time for SuperM too. They just kept overloading the previous groups with comebacks
With the exception of Exo
Everyone went to the military
@@nolia920 they were WAY inactive even before the mandatory service. The service was just a extension of the inactivity in my opinion
@@lukaskillswitch I did wonder what had happened to EXO. Does anyone know what's happening with SM now that Chinese company wants to sell their part off as it's not bringing them the return they wanted? I've not heard anything lately. I did think they'd jump ship as they have a bad rep for asset striping and jumping ship if they can't asset strip a company.
Except exo. They got next to nothing 🫤
I think one of the biggest reason that they can't continue touring is because of COVID. But I really enjoyed superM, they made me realize how great SM groups are an individual them is. And they had great time together
Watching and editing this video I do see the members really enjoying the whole time in SuperM
That's how I bumped into Taemin and Baekhyun. I remember Taemin, right after he handed his leader duty to Baekhyun, he joked to the whole group about Lee Sooman and they all laughed like mad. So much has transpired since!
"Can't Stand the Rain" and the performance was fantastic.
Ooh gosh I totally forgot about this one, such a bop! Now I totally need to re-listen to their whole discography.
So true!! I LOVEEE this song
it’s sooooo good. in london we got to hear it twice bc of technical difficulties
The instrumental is also amazing. I’m not a fan of instrumentals but this one slaps
@@xfreja did the gig sold out? I was living in UK back then but I don't remember why I didin't go ;-;
So my personal belief is that Taemin was so sad with all of Shinee in the army that SM made SuperM to keep him from getting too lonely. :)
Thats.. delusional!
@@artrdytdd delulu is always the solulu
@@artrdytdd wholesome delulu is fine ✨
Some how I doubt any of that but I guess you never know.
He isn't 5 anymore
SuperM was 👌 I will not back down from it. If SM just committed to it fully and didn't use it as a way to promote projects...
yes and concentrated on making sure the lads had something different to offer.
Agree miss them
It was SuperM who got me and my friends into k-pop and we start to explore the groups they come from. We are from Europe and still into k-pop.
Yoo literally same! It was Jopping that made me interested in Kpop, more specifically NCT
Did you say Tiger Inside was kinda eh?! That’s wild. It’s the best song on that album, imo.
IKR, I love Tiger inside.
I saw Super M in Chicago and it was FANTASTIC!
I'm so jealous 🤩
i saw them in london it was incredibleee
It was great!
I actually enjoyed SuperM but u wish they were more consistent with them. Same with GOT the Beat if they can find amazing concepts for them and make them unique in their own way then both groups would be unstoppable.
SuperM got me into kpop, and from there i looked into all of their respective groups! i owe a lot to this crazy idea lol
Waking up at 3am to watch jopping for the first time was a religious experience considering my ults were exo and nct at the time
Well when you read the Bible, repent all your sins, and get the HOLY SPIRIT to come UPON your body. That’s a REAL RELIGIOUS experience you’re missing. Not some FALSE “IDOLS.” Let’s pray for your salvation if you IDOLIZE FALSE GODS. TAEMIN is my bias for NEVER to I IDOLIZE him in such a way I call it a “RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE.” Sadly you’re missing the SPIRIT of god which heals you fully and you can HEAR, SEE, FEEL the SPIRIT OF GOD LITERALLY. Now that’s a RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE you’re missing.
watching it at 7:40 before going to school was such an experience
I thought JOPPING was 🔥. Seeing them perform live was phenomenal.
unfortunate that they debuted right before a lot of the members' military era but if only they had continued with some short EPs with 4-5 of the guys to fill the time
SuperM is my favourite group after exo. I definitely enjoyed their music. As for their success, it's SM's fault in my opinion. SM should have made a better plan for them and keep the comeback consistent. I think the idea of super group is actually great. If Collab between artists is acceptable, it can work the same way. Getting talented artists like SuperM members in one group is insane. If one doesn't like their music, it's the listener's taste of music, not the artist's lackings. My journey with SuperM has been great and I'm still hoping they somehow make a comeback.
super m is iconic really
for all the wrong reasons unfortuantly.
@@eileencritchley4630how tf 💀
After watching the video I don't see why this was a dumb idea, nor was it unsuccessful. They didn't need to support the investment of Beyond Live by themselves, because it could be used by other groups. And since it brought attention to the platform internationally such a "global" group was the best way to get it started.
I really don't see anything wrong with SuperM's concept and songs. The songs are catchy and have the same vibe as Exo, Nct and SHINee's songs. The concept makes sense for the SMEU lore. I really don't understand people's obsession of hating on the group for no reason when it offers more people to discover 3-4 groups at the same time.
Porq estaban siendo explotados laboralmente los integrantes ._.
@@Rousisisisis-yi6vfthat’s kpop and the entertainment industry in general they’re all being exploited as artist.
Fr and I hate that people always said SM don't promote their groups when this is literally one of the best marketing strategy
@@Mulukan57 well they didn’t do for EXO much. Like you create a group where Exo members are there but there is zero Exo content, even their previous contents also do not have English subtitle. Their minimum new content is not accessible for no korean🤷♀️ how is it good promotion. Oh yes, not releasing link of their album to buy, not producing enough album to buy, bare minimum to no promotional shows for their album after and before the release. And of course members themselves calling it out and leaving the company for it, fans do not hate them without reason tho
@SadiaIslamShouki SM used to be good at promoting their group but since around 2020, they suck so much idk what happend. But thats the fate of old groups in SM... cuz Nct was promoted really well during that time. SM after all just business corporation. They'll prioritise new artists yknow. But whatever happened with exo is really iffy. After 2018, they don't attend award show, music festival, variety show and barely attend SMtown.
Does anyone remember how insane it was that SM Entertainment actually did this? Like, they put on a whole spectacle for SuperM's debut and looking back on it I miss how K-pop companies would do crazy stuff like this 😅
Dumbest? Really? Coming from a YG stan who only considered SM's artists after I discovered NCT and SuperM, yes, Jopping was a bit gimmicky but the only reason SuperM wasn't a "good" idea was because kpop fandoms are full of JEALOUS fans. Jealousy aside, the idea is great if they're able to work around their schedules. They indeed have the best members and they have great songs (Tiger Inside, etc.). So many of the fans of other members of SHINee, NCT and EXO who weren't chosen to be part of SM were jealous for their faves and even fans of SuperM members were also threatened by how good other SuperM members were performing beside their fave members who they thought were the best. (ex. Some EXO and SHINee fans hated NCT members cuz they were threatened by their rap and dance skills and their charisma saying SuperM is only used to promote NCT members when in fact most lines and center time were given to EXO and SHINee members). Also, I think SuperM actually was fun for the members themselves. NCT members get to work with the seniors they looked up to, Taemin gets to work with Kai and Ten, and Baekhyun gets to be the leader. Also SHINee and EXO became more relevant to younger fans while older fans get to consider checking out the NCT. Of course this only applies to fans who care more about talent rather than competing with other fandoms. SuperM was actually one of the best things that happened for people who aren't caught up in fanwars and only want to enjoy great performances where no member lags behind.
Superm group not so serious group male just for fun only and for taemin
@@arien_000 I agree with everything you said! It's just title to get people to watch the video 😅
@@arien_000agreed!! 100% and thank you for pointing out how when it was first announced, how nct members really got backlash for no reason really. This was a mess with fan wars and many pointing fingers at nct for the reason "their favs" will be in the infamous basement of sm lol. Of course, that never happened. Something that did annoy me as I made in my own comment, is the lack of proper mention of capital records. Yes he did say they teamed up but it is HEAVILY downplaying how much capital was involved. They were the main brainchild for super m, lee sooman/sm thought "why not?". Jopping was not sm's money but capitals lmao. Sm was just for music and the artist and doing the kpop side of things. Capital was the marketing and western side of things. This group idea is really a smart one, truly just they sadly had bumps in the way that were out of their control. It isn't a dumb idea and I know it's for watch reasons but could have titled it as "missed potential " which would have worked better imo (everything else was great but my critic is the capital records thing not being mentioned and making it all sm only. It wasn't again, there is proof) it is funny how super m is like, the joke in kpop but we have companies like hybe doing global groups themselves (which apparently will have a Netflix show after their debut documenting the formation) and i giggle to myself how kpop fans are picky when certain concepts are ok and not ok.
@@InternetsNathan then I have to say your title is as gimmicky as Jopping. But I understand. Honestly, I was hoping for at least one more album from SuperM but I'm honestly not comfortable about Lucas being part of it again. He's just too controversial. Although honestly, I doubt they will still make a comeback because Taemin and Baekhyun already left SM as solo artists and there are just so many haters in kpop these days.
SuperM was so great, I’m glad I saw them on tour❤ as a big EXO-L, being able to finally see at least Kai & Baekhyun made me so freaking happy. Honestly everyone in SuperM has such amazing talent and seeing them come together was an incredible experience. Even tho I was unsure of the group at first, they did well❤❤❤❤
Omg I loved SuperM! It was my way back to Taemin and SHINee. Very fond memories with these fellas. Whether they return or not, I'll always be happy I got to see Taemin in a different setting. They were great!
It isn't only Lucas now, but Baekhyun left SM and Taemin is scheduled to leave too, so I think this marks SuperM's official end. Also enlistment is ongoing, Kai is in the military, Taeyong will go soon. The project could've worked better if they had a system like NCT, so with the possibility to add new members to cover for those on hiatus or those who left. Also it seems they were highly overworked, because they never slowed down their group/solo activities and it seems they haven't earned much from it. It could've been a cool idea, but it was executed really bad.
I don't think that some of the members leaving for solo activities impacts SuperM at all, because their original groups are still under the label, so SuperM could be as well.
@@aligensait's much harder to manage schedules for 2 groups when you're in different companies. and i'm kinda sure both Taemin and Baek would rather focus on solo more if they switched agencies for it instead of a second group. i also remember that Taemin wasn't promoting with SHINee when he was with SuperM because his members were in the military. it was easier back then besides, it seems like SM isn't interested in SuperM now, it was Lee Soo man's passion project, and he left
@@user-mx7xz5cm6c I didn't say that SuperM was likely to continue, just that the fact that some of the members left for solo activities wouldn't necessarily prevent that. Smaller agencies work more for the artists rather than the other way round, so they would be likely to prioritize what they want. Whether they want is another matter.
@@aligensa Baekhyun or SM haven't mentioned SuperM though. When they announced he would leave, they said clearly that he would continue his activities with EXO but they didn't say anything about SuperM. Also he hasn't just left, he's the ceo of his own company so he has extra work to take care of especially since his company isn't a one man only but has two other artists to take care of. Of course there's a tiny possibility he might want to still do it, but by the time everyone finishes their enlistement and assuming Lucas drama won't be an issue, SM might have moved on from that project and they might just try to establish a new super group (if they'll ever want to try it again).
@@ayakoha yeah, they also only mentioned SHINee in the announcement about Taemin, and Taemin said please 'keep supporting me as a SHINee member and Taemin'
SM really has not been the same without lsm... its pretty sad to me :(
"No Manners" such a bop.
am like honored to exist when they debuted.
It sucks that their music was actually SOOOO good like??? I listen to their songs and something about already proven artists being at their fullest is just amazing. SO glad I saw them live on their tour!
I love them too!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're so lucky I wish I would've gone to their concert but I was so busy with work back then and the shitty ticket system back then didn't let me purchase one. Now I can only DREAM to watch all my biases in one group. TT
No Manners is iconic and Mark's verse of Jopping was iconic too even though the main line of that song is... um... yeah. BY THE WAY 2020 WAS AN INCREDIBLE YEAR FOR KPOP?! Stray Kids Gods Menu & Back Door, NCT Kick It & Make a Wish, Itzy Wannabe, Red Velvet Psycho, BTS On and Dynamite. And more
Getting to see them all on one stage was FANTASTIC.
I WILL MISS THIS GROUP
Me too
Super M was the last concert I saw before the pandemic started. I really enjoyed their group and wish they were more consistent and with GOT too 😢
They lost they’re two main vocalist now what are they going to do 😭
Although some members left SM, they can still participate in SuperM activities. Like how the EXO members who aren't in SM will still participate in EXO activities.
@@EverRoxas well EXO and SuperM is different situation 🤷♀️ EXO spent 12 years, of course members are dedicated to her, so they made a way to be together, whether they had to be under SM for that while for SuperM, they don’t have that special feeling for her, hence they Won't and shouldn’t sacrifice their solo career for company so that they can make more money🤷♀️ CBX and Soo signed special contract where they will comeback for EXO but their solo schedule will be handle by their own company
They have so many amazing songs. i miss them a lot.
I still wear the sweatshirt 'til this day.
I really wish SuperM was rotational that way they could comeback with different combos and work with the idols schedules
Super M has got many good songs but my absolutely fave song from them are Tiger Inside & One (monster & infinity)... they're in my playlist still ❣ Love the MVs too. I miss them.
SuperM was a genius idea only if the original groups weren’t mistreated like slaves🤷♀️ especially EXO. Exo-l couldn’t whole heartedly supported them knowing how badly Exo is treated snd how both Baekhyun and Kai was there as cash cow. I am obviously speaking as Exo-l, so don't know how Nct and Shinee fan felt.
we supported our favs still. egzols buthrt about everything since their creation 😂
@@127bubblesIf you support them, then you would not support them being worked to death by a horrible company.
we need that SM video why lee soo-man left, and why it might be the downfall of SM. now artists are leaving and hype bought his shares. I think I need a whole breakdown. P.S love your videos
I was sure that Ten was part of superm
He was.
he is wdym????
It just blows my mind how their debut album was so good but then “Jopping” was the lead track 🤦🏽♀️ And the worst part was that the song could’ve been good if they just didn’t use the ridiculous phrase “jopping”. It could’ve easily been a line like, “when we step on the stage, we get it poppin”…something…ANYTHING other than “Jopping” 🥴
What do you mean almost worked? It worked.
😂😂😂
I don’t think it was dumb. Without SuperM I wouldn’t have listened to Nct or wayv and exo as much. I only liked Shinee and some exo
I got to see these guys when they came to New York back in November 2019. Still the best concert ever I’ve been to! I was so happy that night.
SuperM solidified my love for k-pop. Taemin’s Move, dance practice was what got me started. He’s mesmerizing. Sad that SuperM is no longer a thing. LOVED their b-sides. Their choreo was STUNNING to watch. The best of the best dancers together = 🔥 🔥 🔥
Look, Kpoppers have such a short memory and are so critical. The SuperM project was very good, but it came about under unfortunate circumstances, and I mean COVID. However, SuperM was a pioneer in doing a stream concert during the pandemic, when there was nothing in that format in Kpop until then. And what happened next? The rest of the companies did it too. The world economy was unstable, there were risks of illness, there were many changes and things to try, many contracts and tour opportunities had to be postponed. And something that should have grown gradually became intertwined with individual projects, with internal problems, etc. That's why SMCU seems so rushed with Aespa and other projects, they had to rethink everything. I think it could have been a very successful project in the long term, unfortunately between all these problems and SM's own poor management, and now that both Baek and Taemin decided to leave the company, the project will remain as another milestone in kpop history.
One of the crazy things for me was that while SuperM was debuting and going on the first leg of their tour, EXO was also in the middle of a huge Asian tour
The group was dope. The concept of The Avengers of KPOP was lame. SuperM has the dopest singers, dancer, and visuals. Jopping for the first single was lame, but what do I know...
Mark's rap in Jopping will always be iconic!
The only thing that went wrong with this group was the timing. Covid locked down the world FIVE MONTHS after they toured and by time the world opened back up, the eldest members started their military enlistments. If Covid hadn’t happened then they would have been fine. With Lucas coming back and Taeyong starting his military service soon (and the last one that will have to), we could have the full group back together and able to do another promotion in a year and a half.
I miss them, at least I can complete my SuperM collection since they only have two albums out ig
Oh my gosh thank you for this video. I miss watching your What Happened? videos please make more soon.
I love their album so I'm good
You mentioned all their songs except One ( Monster and Infinity) even though you played it and can’t stand the rain lol. I loved your breakdown and inclusion of the promotions they did. Definitely subscribing
Thank you so much!
SuperM was an easy target for hate, but their music was fantastic, and they achieved a lot during their period of activity. There was rightful concern about the impact on the OG groups (with the exception of SHINee since activities literally weren't possible at the time), but a lot of people were being straight up psychotic for no reason, and I think it's crazy that there are some still trying to paint them as a flop group to this day when they really weren’t. I think the timing worked in their favor at first, and then Covid came out swinging followed immediately by enlistments, and it was clear there was no viable way to be consistent any longer without directly impacting the solo/OG group activities with all the adjustments having to be made as a result to keep up with all the changes Covid brought. I was excited when 2023 activities were teased, but obviously, a lot went down, and it was understandably scrapped. Still, though, being a part of the little no-name fandom during their active period and getting to see them live was a helluva ride!
Why is it dumb? They had an idea, like any other made it work than shit happened, life happened. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean it was a dumb idea. I loved all the members of SuperM and all of the members have amazing talent that people loved.
I blame Covid and the military enlistments for the failure that happened with SuperM. I don't blame the idols because they did nothing wrong.
I always thought that SuperM would have best worked as a group with rotating members that would encorporate non-enlisted SM group members so they could still work while their enlisted members were gone.
i adore superm, and i always will. i am always sad that they didnt work out :( their music absolutely hits and i literally adore everyone in the group, i will always secretly hope that they come back together. like we didnt even get a fandom name ☹️💔
I am glad I was there when all of this unfolded and yeah as you said, why did I sit back like it was all normal 😂. Fun times. Looking back Jopping and its MV were really iconic but I think the problem was, were they giving us anything different from the rest to stand out, according to my opinion, NO. Also, for all I know American public or even new American K-pop fans did not care much about an "avengers" because they might not have been very aware of all of them. so, they coudn't capitalise on the new k-pop wave happening in the US then. For all I know, they were just another K-Pop group for them. But I really thought it would lead to a trend in the K-Pop scene and all other companies would follow which did not happen. Although, I still fantasize the idea.
The next attempt to increase popularity in the USA after SuperM was with English songs that copy what is currently in the American charts, which sadly is ongoing - sad because it involves lack of quality, originality and meaningfulness. But since so far nobody is successful with that (and SM has stayed away from it so far except with Ten, because he's Thai, so he might as well do English songs), except for BTS, whose fans are numerous and support anything, that probably won't be the future either, and HYBE has already announced the next strategy; cooperating with local companies to produce local or "globalized" groups with the methods of Kpop (training, marketing etc). What we've seen so far of the
Since this all was Lee Sooman’s brainchild, I don’t think they would have a comeback anymore tho. That’s sad because I really did enjoy them.
Really love SuperM and so sad their time was so short. They made me returned to KPOP in 10 Years since TVXQ(5).
Taeyong looked extremely fine in tiger inside omd i'm still not over it.
The fact that I was thinking about them the other day like I completely forgot about them until I was thinking about. I was like "I wonder what's going on with SuperM. I havent heard from them in a while." I really enjoy listeninf to SuperM but it sucks that they werent consistent tho.
SM has been trying so hard for decades to make it big in the states and they are still failing big time
When Are We Gonna See a SuperM Comeback? The Wait is Killing Me!
Without Lucas??
I stayed up all night to watch the debut and thought it was "too much". But as I listened to them and kept up with their comebacks I must say that... they actually DID work! Love them so much!
As a new K-Pop fan, this seems like some fever dream shit lol😂
as a k-pop fan of nearly ten years and a fan of all of the groups involved, it kind of feels that way in hindsight lol
😂
To be honest, it was kind of obvious that SM was seeing what BTS was doing and achieving and definitely was trying to ride off of that but, it was never gonna work that way since it really wasn't grabbing the attention of those OUTSIDE of kpop's fanbases... Instead, they were just adding onto more of the 'K-pop wave' that was happening at the time. It was clear though that the general public just couldn't find a fascination as they made it a little TOO OBVIOUS that they were scoring for more than just the K-pop audience. The difference between what BTS was doing was that BTS scored success at home before they did globally. SuperM jumped in and went beyond, just not in a way that was appealing or natural I guess you could say?
That year i was new in exploring kpop, superm actually make me explore the group behind it like exo shinee nct wayv and i remember that time i play the superstar game for the first time 😅
Me too!
SuperM is not the dumbest idea. It is one of the coolest ideas. What happened that lead it to fail was a couple of reasons: Lucas’ long hiatus following controversy, different members belonging to different groups so different schedules and date of military enlistment, COVID pandemic and most importantly SM itself. A whole storm blew through within the management, with SM passing from the hands of Lee Soo Man to a different management and all the conflict and drama as to who would buy SM. With all the instability in its management, forget SuperM, even the existing groups are facing challenges and the older groups like SHINee, SNSD, Suju, EXO are no longer renewing their contracts as almost no one wants to stay under the current management. SM artists usually renew their contract, take SHINee as an example. But things have changed since Lee Soo Man relinquished his shares and hold on SM and SM fell. I just hope the artists can walk away with full legal rights to their group and do group activities freely in the future even if they choose not to renew contracts with SM. I also wish the company that started kpop, the mother of this industry, SM wouldn’t be destroyed so easily, for it took LSM years to build it to it’s glory. Popular or not, without SM, there’s no kpop… SM will always be considered part of Big 3 in kpop.
It was a good idea and Capital Records did their part to make it happen. Fans were even coming around to it, the main problem was that S.M wasn't transparent with the american label or the fans. They kept announcing things and then not going through with it. S.m is just a very unorganized company and they are used to fans doing most of the heavy lifting in terms of promotion and whatnot. Korean fans didn't want this group but super m were on their way to developing a lot of western fans similar to bts. But unlike hybe there was little to no organization and honestly it's a miracle the company is still up and running. They are used to doing the bare minimum and having fans do most of the heavy lifting. They assume their groups are a gift to the world and it's not their job to promote or even try to maintain popularity. That's s.m's problem. The american person in charge of overseeing super m retired during the pandemic and with most of super m's promo being in asia, but being that they invested millions of the group even if they pulled back slightly it shouldn't have been a problem. S.m completely did NOT pull their load. Capital invested millions and s.m just stopped trying as soon as they turned their backs. That type of behavior is just good enough to get the members blacklisted from Hollywood, but the management and people in charge could literally care less.This is the real reason for super m not doing as well as bts. Bts got popular and then worked to maintain popularity. Super m gained a little traction and s.m just stopped really trying. People don't understand that something as simple as giving super m a simple vlog channel or having the members do funny challenges could have literally saved the group. Even that was too much for s.m. It's not surprising because they even try and deny older groups something as simple as a documentary. They must get tons of offers but they never adhere to any of them because they want as much money in their pockets as possible. The company is full of greedy money hungry people and it has always been this way. I have known about kpop since I was like 7, Boa was on MTV in America back in the day, but what happened? What always happens S.m puts in a little effort and then expects the world to be so grateful for their product that they, the fans, should do the promoting for them. That is not how the west works, that's why everything they do in the u.s is always a "failure". It's not a failure, they just feel like if they put in 20% effort and don't get back number one billboard results that it's not worth it. Even in Korea, they wanted Kai to promote Rover for a week and if he did that then he wouldn't have eventually one first place. People have stayed silent on s.m too long, it is not just them being incompetent they are purposely sabotaging their artists careers.It's not a coincidence so many people have sued the company for the exact same thing, they do not like their own artists, it's clear as day. Could you even imagine a 20 year old Justin Bieber being treated like an s.m idol, it never would of happened because Scooter was invested in his artists best interest. Where there is smoke their is fire. Super m revealed how S.m operates, they want money but even more than that they want complete control. Their artists don't succeed in the west because they can mistreat them without fans complaining in the east, it's not as easy to see what's going on in Korea. They obviously don't want american news reporters that they can't buy and control doing articles on them . The management team at the company is very egotistical way more than the artists and they like to trick investors into thinking the company or a project will do fantastic but then when it doesn't do as well as expected they put in ZERO effort. Just poor work ethic and it makes the artists look bad. All of super m worked very hard, too hard for s.m to do absolutely nothing with the group after 2021. S.M is a shameful shameful company, they deserve all the bad karma they are getting and worse. All of their legacy artists should leave, let the management perform onstage since it's obvious they are power hungry to such a disastrous degree.
I fully agree with your comment. You said everything i have been thinking about SM these past few years. As a kpop fan who was mostly into sm group, the way this company operates is insane to me. Im an exol and i will always be bitter with the way they mistreated the members and purposely sabotaged their careers and popularity. Exo could have been HUGE on the west. At some point in time they were compared a lot to Bts in terms of popularity (this was baaack in 2014-2015 I believe, Bts was gaining traction on the west and Exo was at their top). The exo members had so much potential to do so much more back in those years. I remember Kai was wanted as a ambassador of many west brands, western artists wanted to collaborate with them and the fans were BEGGING for world tours. And till this day, Sm refused to give them a proper world tour. Exo is a 14 year old group. They are considered legendary veteran idols and till this day, they have had only 8 concerts in TOTAL on the west (only on Canada, Usa and Mexico). They haven’t even been on Europe 😭 That’s ridiculous. They have had a total of five tours and only two of them included a few dates on the west. Im just completely appalled with how badly Sm refused to acknowledge that exo was and is still pretty damn popular around the world. I went to see superm in Mexico city not because i loved the group, but because I knew that the chances of seeing some exo members and Taemin again were minimal or nonexistent.
I loved Super M. We went to see them in Cali. The concert was really great.. SO LONG is my absolute best track by them..
SAME, FINALLY SOMEONE APPRECIATES SO LONG, I FUCKING LOVE THAT SONG.
Those lightsticks lookings fiiiine I still need to get the ARTMS one
You should! Gotta support the girls
Taemin also didn't resign as a soloist but did as a shinee member with no mention of super m so I think that can also be an answer
Taemin is still a part of SHINee
I loved SuperM….miss them so much! Th timing of their Military service..killed them moving forward! If they came back..id be thrilled. SM biggest mistake was not promoting their huge groups in the west…like BTS was.
I remember attending their concert in Chicago 4 years ago back in there first tour. That was my very first kpop concert loll
(Edited) Please do what happened to woo!ah!, T-ara, hellovenus, MBLAQ, afterschool, 9muses, BTOB, secret, Rainbow, brown eyed girls, day6, Nu'est, and pentagon because i've been requested for a very long time
Only Korean group to ever debut at #1 on the Billboard top 200 album charts. If they never released another album afterwards, they still would have been considered a success.
As a Shawol, I loved every second of SuperM. Sadly, I don't think we'll have SuperM back 😢 Even though Lucas is finally back, and Kai will be out of the MS soon, Baekhyun and Taeminie left, also LSM and SuperM are almost synonyms... so yeah, it's gonna be hard...
You should be happy that SM won't screw up Taemin's solo to promote that super group anymore
@lilfreak1491 I'm happy that Taemin won't depend on SM for anything related to his solo career anymore
They could, because Baekhyun and Taemin left as SOLOISTS, but they can do group activities under SM. The only thing is that even if Kai gets out of the MS, Taeyong just enlisted. He'll be back by the end of 2025 so only then they'll be complete and no other member will go to the MS because Ten, Lucas and Mark are foreigners. Regardless, I think SM just gave up on the idea of SuperM, but I wish they had a comeback.
i don’t see how superm was dumb at all, their music is amazing and they were really successful. it’s just that things like covid and enlistment affected them + sm’s mismanagement (of course). i really hope they’ll be able to have comeback once taeyong comes back from the military (fml he’s my ult 💔). seeing them live in london was such an incredible experience, i’m so glad i was able to and that they were my first concert. being able to see 4 nct members knowing i’ll likely never see them in concert again was so great too, i just wish nct 127 would finally come back here after 5 years :( america isn’t the entire world 🤕 (although i saw mark again last year with nct dream). i’m also really happy i got to see my ult taeyong as well as lucas of course :] they’re just all so talented, i wish sm didn’t waste the even bigger potential superm could have had
SAME, maybe it's wishful thinking but I hope they'll come back... And SAME my ult is Taeyong too I love him SO MUCH I'm so bummed that I never got to see 127 live like WE WERE ROBBED with The Unity tour it was meant to be a world tour:(
i would love an episode about TripleS and Jaden Jeong's ideas behind their "idol of all possibilities" concept
I'd love to! And maybe ask the man himself about it... 👀
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Just a short comment from an ancient Kpop fan: Super M was not their first "super unit" of SM entertainment. They had Younique back in 2012 that was made of Eunhyuk and Henry from Suju, Taemin from Shinee, Kai and Luhan from EXO and was even co-ed because of Hyoyeon of SNSD and much as SuperM it crumbled down into nothing. But still memorable for the oldies.
I took an 18 month break from listening to kpop while I was serving a church mission, so I had no idea what SuperM was when I got back. I was just trying to catch up on comebacks and assumed from the thumbnail that Jopping was an EXO comeback. I wasn't that familiar with EXO before my mission, but I at least knew all the members and couldn't for the life of me figure out who these other people aside from Kai and Beakhyun were lol! SuperM was the reason I got into Shinee and NCT! Love them!
Superm is the just a project to use sunbae group to promote NcT. Exo was more popular and more well known than NcT, the sm group that has most achievements like awards, daesangs, music show wins, etc. Sm is just too dumbed that only focus on new groups, should have promoted Exo rv or SHINee a while ago in the west. Till now there is not a single sm group that is popular in the west. Their strategy is bad and songs are not catering for western audiences
It was called avengers because they assembled from different groups lol duh
Almost worked!? I thought Jopping was a whole bop.
SuperM was the most brilliant business transaction I've ever witnessed. Capitol Records sets out to do business with a Korean label, they choose SM. Automatically that means all the finances for this project does not solely land on SM financial table. SM invests their portion of funds and CR invests their portion to attack the West. LS achieved his goal without spending a dime close to what he would've had to pay doing this project solo while pimpin' out not 1, not 2, but 3 groups including (3 NCT Units, 1 EXO Unit). The man had us all watching a video more than once just because all or favs was in one group, can't look at all of them at the same time. It was criminal. 'No Manners' and 'Drip' on repeat for life. *First Supergroup was Younique Unit.
his story telling style is so fun to listen.😂
Thanks! 😊
Idk how this group was considered a dumb idea. I loved it. Having the best in that industry in one group was so cool
Don't forget that SuperM had that one 2019 collab with Korean Air for a in-flight safety video that they still have playing on flights lol
Super groups are a terrible idea, not just on Kpop, but in general. Usually, executives aspire to conquer multiple fandom with a group, but the fans are more worried about the mistreatment of the original groups, or in Kpop, the fandom is divided by bias, so in the best scenario you can't hope for the audience of the whole group, but at the best you shoot for the fans of one member, and even that isn't guaranteed. Supergroups divide fandoms, makes the original groups feel left out, and the idols are worked tirelessly so accidents, injuries and leaves of absence could happen. In rock, supergroups aren't that bad because the members join in the meantime between projects and usually is about people largely successful, but in Kpop is just a laboratory product, diminishing the potential. Also, another point: some idols even have solo career in parallel to groups activities, so people like Taemin not only isn't releasing SHINee material, but also Taemin music, which is also excellent, so imagine that fans, trying to avoid the anger and being willing to put themselves again for a new group. It's bonkers.
Bravo well said.
This is so true. One thing I don't like about SM is how they mistreat their artists. I could argue that they have the most talented artists but they don't do a great job of managing them. I get wanting to take advantage of the success most liked members can bring, but they just end up overworking them and in turn, overlook members in their respective groups. As an NCT127 fan, it was so disappointing to see how other members were being mistreated especially in the early days. From not having any personal projects to getting unfair line distribution and even MV screen time, then see the members who are already highlighted, be given an extra platform to showcase their talent. I was more disappointed than excited to see SuperM but maybe that's just me. Now, do I listen to SuperM's songs, of course 🤭, but I'm not an invested fan. I wish the idea behind SuperM and even GOT the Beat was incorporated for all SM artists like how they do their SMTOWN albums or NCT U. The members could change every time depending on personal schedules. That way, everybody in the company can get a chance to showcase their talent and others won't be overworked but I guess the company doesn't want to waste funds on less popular members. I especially like how with NCT U you can see how overlooked members shine even though promotions for songs besides the main title suck. Like with 'The BAT' from NCT U with Taeil, Johnny, Yuta, Jungwoo, Hendery, Jeno, and Jisung. I hoped to see more content from that song cause they devoured and I thought it should have been the main title, in my opinion, but they were competing with beloved Baggy Jeans and its popular members so of course, they were not going to be given sh**. I know this is not the popular members' fault and I don't blame them, but it's disappointing to see the company's biasness.
How are supergroups lab products in kpop
Totalmente de acuerdo, y el caso de Taemin era especialmente dificil, fue por las promociones de SuperM que practicamente no promociono el lanzamiento de Criminal y la pandemia le malogro el gran potencial de N.G.D.A para una gira, es un album extendido de dos partes e increible!!!, Taemin trabajo tanto en ese album y demasiados factores le malograron los planes. Y 2023 ha sido un año muy crucial en su carrera, tanto en Shinee como solista.. SuperM fue una idea curiosa, pero para mi es mejor que nunca regrese, por el bien de sus integrantes y porque SM ya no da para eso...
man i miss super m 😩 i do understand the criticism they receive but but seeing my 2 ults baekhyun and taemin together in a group was crazyyy to me i really wish i was able to see them when they came to america and hope they have another comeback some day🥺
Who is still Jopping in 2024? 😂
i remember superm so clearly and i was waiting for a comeback but now i see they’re gone
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Didn’t love “Jopping,” but did enjoy the song on the Korean Air flight safety video.
I remember listening to we do on my way to sunday school lmao
Lee Soo Man's ego destroyed SuperM, he doesn't understand how to make a modern or American song and shouldn't have meddled in the creative process
Super M was just an attempt at being the next BTS
Younique Unit walked so that SuperM could run
I loved that one video of Younique Unit.